1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Bought Sexton Show. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us on this 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: fabulous Wednesday across the nation as many people get ready, 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: by the way, to celebrate Thanksgiving coming up next week. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: We're about eight days away, I think, exactly from Thanksgiving. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: I know many of you are going to. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Be starting your travels, and certainly we'd encourage you to 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: go subscribe to the podcast so you can take us 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: with you wherever. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: You might be going. 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: I know my family is going to start traveling on Friday, 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: parts of it to meet up all over the country, 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: and I imagine a lot of you are as well. 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: So it's a good time to go subscribe to the 15 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: podcast to get the entire podcast network, and you can 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: take us with you wherever you may be around the 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: country or indeed around the world. I wanted to make 18 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: sure we hit this because it's an awful story, but 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: I do think it's important because for many people, the 20 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: failures of the Biden administration at the border have unfortunately 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: led to violence all over the country. Illegal immigrants have 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: come in acts of violence against innocent American citizens, and 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: nowhere to my knowledge, has gotten more attention than the 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: murder of Lake and Riley in the Athens area of Georgia, 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: where I was over the weekend. It remains a huge story, 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: and the criminal trial of her killer, and it is 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: now you can say directly her killer has ended and 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: he has been convicted of murder and will spend the 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: rest of his life in prison. Now we will talk 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: about that in a moment, but in the meantime I 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: wanted all of you to be able to hear because 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: we have talked a lot. Again Buck. They try to say, oh, well, 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens do, 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: And first of all, I don't know that I buy 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: that when you actually break it down, because many illegal 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: immigrants are young men, and young men overwhelmingly commit most 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: violent acts. So it stands to reason that if the 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: majority of illegal immigrants are young men, actually young men, 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: whether they're illegal or legal, commit the vast majority of 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: violent crimes. So I'm not sure i'd buy the statistic 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: as it is reported. But here's the deal. It should 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: be zero because we should not have illegal immigration in 43 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: this country. So any crime that occurs that is the 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: result of an illegal immigrant illegally entering this country should 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: never be allowed to occur. And before we play the result, 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: I want to read this because this was well said, 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: I thought distilling exactly what happened. Bill Malujin shared this 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: about exactly what happened with the Lake and Riley case 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: and why it was such a failure on so many 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: different levels that this was ever allowed to happen at all. 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Here's how many ways that the government failed. Her killer 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: was in federal custody after crossing the border illegally released, 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: he was released again in the sanctuary city of New 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: York City after an arrest. Ice was not notified about 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: that arrest. New York City then gave him a taxpayer 56 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: funded flight to Georgia, according to the testimony of one 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: of his roommates. Again, all of that, multiple failures that 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: led to the murder of a completely innocent woman out 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: for a jog in Athens, Georgia. And this is what 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: it just sounded like when the verdict was read. 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 3: Count one malice murder. I was sending you to life 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: without the possibility parole. Count two will be vacated as 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: a matter of operation of law. Count three vacated by 64 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: operations of law. Count four vacated co operation of law. 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: Count five life in prison consecutive to count one, Count six, 66 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: twenty years to serve consecutive to count five. Count seven 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: will merge with count one, count eight. 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I think we can say the reading, but I wanted 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: you to hear what was going on in that courtroom. 70 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: Buck. Here's the deal. 71 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Not only as Lake and Riley, she should still be alive, 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: and I can't even imagine what her family is going through, 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: but she is emblematic of something that is happening in 74 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: your state, in your city because of the failures of 75 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: border security. 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: But in addition to. 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: All those failures, now American taxpayers have to pay for 78 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: this guy to spend the rest of his life in 79 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: a Georgia prison sale. So this is in no way 80 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: actual justice in any kind of use of the word 81 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: justice in my mind, because we continued to have to 82 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: pay the price of his illegal actions to keep him 83 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: alive in our prisons. 84 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: I have to wonder why he can't be executed expeditiously 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: as a matter as a matter of law. Here, I 86 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: guess they've just decided in this case. Look, I understand 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 4: the death penalty is a controversial thing for some people, 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: or for a lot of people. But if there's ever 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 4: a case that seems to be a clear indicator of 90 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: when the death penalty should be applied, you would think 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: this would this would meet that standard I'm talking about 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 4: just morally. It put aside the counts and the specifics 93 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: of the statutes. Here we're failing people like Lake and 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 4: Riley and her family, meaning the United States, the United 95 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: States government, the judicial system, immigration system. This is not 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: somebody snuck across the border. We couldn't know and then 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 4: they did a horrible thing. This is authorities had this 98 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: guy in custody multiple times and decided to let him 99 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: out of custody, and he has now gone on to 100 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: commit a heinous rape and murder. This is exactly why 101 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: the American people who are at least paying attention and 102 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: living in reality are so outraged about the wide open 103 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 4: Biden border. Give credit to all of those who have 104 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: been pointing out, including Dan Crenshaw of Congression from Texas's 105 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: writing about how why do we all know what trend 106 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: to Aragua is now? 107 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: Concsson. Crenshaw is correct. 108 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: We all know what trend to Aragua is now, which 109 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: is an ultra violent Latin American gang because the terrible 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: stuff that they're doing has gotten a lot of news coverage. 111 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: And it's a bunch of illegals who have come into 112 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: the country and are raping and murdering and you know, 113 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 4: stealing and doing all the things that they shouldn't be doing. 114 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 4: They should never be allowed to be doing in the 115 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: first place, because they shouldn't even be here in the country. 116 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: But Clay, you know there's this pattern, and you see 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: this the people that say, especially the Democrats, who don't 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: want us to be able to arm ourselves or defend ourselves, 119 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: which well, I mean, I can never live again living 120 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: in a free state that allows me to defend myself 121 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: like Florida does. I could never go back to a 122 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: state I just couldn't where they say, sorry, you're disarmed, 123 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: Sorry you are at the whim of the state. Can't 124 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 4: do it, wouldn't do it, won't allow Well, you know, 125 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 4: I have to defend my wife, I have to defend 126 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: my family, and and so I I have a total 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: mind change or you know, sort of a mentality change 128 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: about even being able to live in a blue state. 129 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Going forward, Look what happened in New York. 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: You had three people stabbed by some maniac running around 131 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: with a with a knife. Two of them killed the 132 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: middle of the day from what if I remember correctly, 133 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: running across Midtown Manhattan. 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: The guy had been arrested eight times. 135 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: He's a violent, crazy lunatic who's been arrested by police 136 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: eight times and is still on the street and has 137 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: now murdered two people. Those two families now have to 138 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: bear that horrible pain of losing a family member to 139 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: a completely random, haintous crime. Lake and Riley's family members 140 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: have to bear that horrible pain that birded of their 141 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: lit their little girl murdered by this monster. And it 142 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: never should have happened because the authorities had the ability 143 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: to stop it and chose not too. Because the Democrat 144 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: Party and the corporate Democrat media and the left in 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: this country and the open borders maniacs have decided that 146 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: being an illegal is some kind of special status in 147 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: this country. You can not only break our laws by 148 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: coming here, you can continue to break our laws. And 149 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: we don't want to seem racist, we don't want to 150 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: seem xenophobics. So you get to stay until you finally 151 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: do something so bad even MSNBC has to say, I 152 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: guess we should. 153 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Lock that guy up. This is going to be tough, 154 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: but I want you guys to hear it. 155 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: Ah. 156 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: This was the stepfather of Lake and Riley, twenty two 157 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: years old. After she was murdered raped by an illegal immigrant. 158 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: They found her diary, her journal that she kept, and 159 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: he read in the courtroom one of the final diary 160 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: entries that she would ever do of her entire life. 161 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: He read that in the courtroom. We have that for 162 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: you right now. You have a daughter, you have a granddaughter, 163 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: you have someone that you care about that could have 164 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: been Lake and Riley. Listen to what she wanted to 165 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: do with the rest of her life. 166 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 5: To my future husband, I want you to know that 167 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 5: I'm thinking about you. I'm working every day to become 168 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 5: the best wife I can be, working through my current 169 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 5: relationships to best prepare me for hours and our kids 170 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: one day. I'm focusing on God and what he defines 171 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: is a faithful Christian life and so that I can 172 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: best embody those characteristics. I pray that you know that 173 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: is with my full faith and trust in God, that 174 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: I know this relationship has been handcrafted by Him. I 175 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 5: pray that we continue to glorify the Lord prioritize Him 176 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 5: in every aspect of our lives, and raise our family 177 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: our future family to be God fearing Christian as well. 178 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 5: I pray God is the center of our relationship. It 179 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 5: is it is a gift from Him. I thank Him 180 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 5: for you before I even know you, and can't wait 181 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: to love you in the best way I know how 182 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 5: for the rest of our lives. I pray you know 183 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 5: and feel the importance of my love and hopes for 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: our relationship no matter what challenges we face. I pray 185 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 5: that our trust in God and love from one another 186 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 5: overrules the obstacle. May our relationship last forever your future wife. 187 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Lacoln Okay, I mean that is hard to listen to. 188 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: That is John Phillips, the stepdad of Lake and Riley, 189 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: reading one of her final juries. For anybody who just 190 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: heard that, how in the world are there no consequences 191 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: for the people that allowed this to happen? I'm sorry, 192 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: I mean, and it is indefensible to me, Buck that 193 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: we have allowed this to occur. And Lake and Riley 194 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: is not alone. There are thousands of innocent people. You 195 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: just heard what she wanted to do with the rest 196 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: of her life, that this country failed and their families 197 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: are going to be suffering for the rest of their 198 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: lives because of the Biden Kamala administration and what they allowed. 199 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 4: To happen, the open borders zealots, and that is now 200 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: the entirety of the Democrat Party and the Democrat apparatus. 201 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: They've changed nothing, Clay. They still want illegals who are 202 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: supposed to be deported because of additional crimes to not 203 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: be deported. Look at how they're fighting against the incoming 204 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: Trump administrations plans on this. Already, Los Angeles is declaring itself, 205 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: you know, an even more sanctuary city than it was before, 206 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: which I don't even know how that's possible. They don't think. 207 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: Here's the fundamental thing everyone has to understand. This happens 208 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: Lake and Riley, A terrible case like this happens, and 209 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 4: the media covers it, and then the Democrats go back 210 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: to pushing for exactly the same policies that led to 211 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: her death. 212 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, rape and murder. They do not change, They do 213 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: not care. 214 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: They think that we need third world illegals piling into 215 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: this place by the millions because that's what America deserves, 216 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: because that's the America they want to live. In and 217 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: if people have to be raped and murdered and killed 218 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: by some of them who we know are criminals, who 219 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: we know shouldn't be here at all, that is the 220 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: cost that Democrats are willing to pay in order to 221 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: make America a more multicultural, multi ethnic state. That is 222 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: the fundamental truth of their policy on immigration. This is 223 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: the cost that they choose to bear. Everybody's Remember that, 224 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 4: by the way, the third victim was actually killed in 225 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: that New York City stabbing was a mother of a 226 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: nine year old. A mom of a nine year old 227 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: just died in the hospital of her wounds. So three 228 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: people stabbed to death by somebody that the NYPD had 229 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: in their custody. 230 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: Eight times. 231 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 4: Nobody thought we should do anything about this guy. Nobody 232 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: he should be committed. You're gonna tell me it wasn't 233 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: obvious that he was a maniac who was a threat 234 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: to people on the street. You get arrested eight times, 235 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: you don't serve any real time in prison. This is 236 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: the state is failing people. And this is why when 237 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: a lot of people see the Daniel Penny case in 238 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: New York and they say, and now we punish men 239 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: who step up when the state fails to defend people, 240 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: to defend women, to defend children from maniacs that the 241 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: state chooses not to defend us from. We're gonna punish 242 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: that guy. That's Alvin Bragg's New York City. Your tax 243 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: dollars got this guy to New York City. Your tax 244 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: dollars put this rapist in a murderer on a plane 245 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 4: to Georgia, and now your tax dollars are going to 246 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: keep him alive for the rest of his life. I'm 247 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 4: sorry the fact that there are no consequences for everyone 248 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: who opened the southern border Mayorkas should be in prison 249 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: for the rest of his life, honestly, And I know 250 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: he's acting on the behest of Biden and Kamala, But 251 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: if you're Lake and Riley's family, and again there are 252 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: Lake and Riley's in every state and every city of 253 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: any substantial size in America today, how in the world 254 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: can there not be consequences for them? And what's the 255 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: worst crime, Clay Biden's DHS intentionally allowing people to defraud 256 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: the United States government and come into the country by 257 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: the millions, knowing that's exactly what's going on, and knowing 258 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: that people are going to be raped and murdered by 259 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: some of those illegals, or listing a expense as a 260 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: lawyer expense when it's a hush money expense. I mean, yeah, 261 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: one of these things was prosecuted and the other wasn't 262 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: good news. 263 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: And I know that's awful, awful story. 264 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: But I wanted you guys, because we have talked about 265 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: the Lake and Riley case, I wanted you guys to 266 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: know the conviction had happened. But I also wanted you 267 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: to be able to hear effectively her voice one more 268 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: time through her stepfather's reading in that courtroom. Look, Christmas 269 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: thirty five days away. 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You need Turkey Talk a limited edition 285 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: episode in the Play and Book podcast feed now found 286 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 287 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Book. 288 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: We were just talking about the Lincoln Riley murder verdict, 289 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: the murderer going away for life without the role. But 290 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: I was as I was talking about it, just thought 291 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: to myself out loud, wait, why didn't they go for 292 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: the death penalty here? And sure enough, the sorrow spacked 293 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: da Deborah Gonzalez didn't want to go didn't want to 294 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: even try the case. I think she handed it off 295 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: to somebody else. And this was in her district in Georgia. 296 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: She's a sorrow spacked prosecutor and she's incredibly soft on crime, 297 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: and she decided that this was going to be somebody 298 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: else's problem and her office would not pursue the death penalty, 299 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: and she was just trounced in o'connee County. I'm not 300 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: sure if I'm pronouncing that correctly, sixty to forty percent 301 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: in the most recent election. So the people of that 302 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: county woke up, which is good news, and got rid 303 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: of her decisively as the DA. So Clay, that's you know, 304 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: that's some form of I mean, minim but some form 305 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: of accountability for the horrible decision not to go for 306 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: the death penalty here she got fired basically from her job, 307 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 4: but another Soros DA who just is soft on criminals. 308 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 4: Let me also note the NYPD had this guy on 309 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: child and dangerment charges as a function of New York 310 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 4: City policy. They refused to tell Ice this guy had 311 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: a detainer on him. He was supposed to get out 312 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: of the country. They refused to tell Ice. They had 313 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: him in custody. Don't tell Ice. Blood is on the 314 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: hands of the people in New York City who make 315 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: those decisions, the mayor, Chief of Police, City Council and 316 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 4: on down. And I would just point out a lot 317 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: of people are not going to hear that final journal 318 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: entry that we played for you. I think it is 319 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: incredibly compelling to allow her to speak and let people 320 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: know these consequences when we allow illegal immigrants like this 321 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: end who are going to engage in predation and violence. 322 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 4: Here you make your next cell phone deal. 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Dial pound two five zero 339 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: say Clay and Buck and save it additional fifty percent 340 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: off your first month. 341 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, surevisbucksction show. Appreciate everybody hanging out 342 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: with us. A lot of you react to that awful 343 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: news of the Lake and Riley case and a variety 344 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: of opinions rolling in. I mean, my general proposition here 345 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: is we failed on basically every front as it pertains 346 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: to this case. This guy should have never been allowed 347 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: in the country. Once he was in the country, he 348 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been given fair pass, free passage to New 349 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: York City. Once he was arrested in New York City, 350 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been put on an airplane and flown 351 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: to Georgia. He should have never been here. And again, 352 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: these are the very real consequences of not having a 353 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: secure border. And there are many, unfortunately stories just like 354 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: this one. 355 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: No matter what. 356 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: State you live in, there are innocent people that have 357 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: been the victims of violent crime that would otherwise be 358 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: alive but for the Biden regimes decision to have a 359 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: wide open southern border. And I understand why so many 360 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: of you are furious about it. I think it motivated 361 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: in a huge extent the number of people who came 362 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: out and voted for Donald Trump. 363 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: I also just I mean, this is part of the 364 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: I think the awakening that America overall is having on 365 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: a whole range of issues, but the border included. The 366 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: Democrats the left believe that if you are opposed to 367 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 4: illegal immigration, it is racist. Yes, and that's all that 368 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: they that's all they need to think, or that that's 369 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: all that they need to hear. If it is racist, 370 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 4: it is bad, and therefore it is racist, and therefore 371 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: it is bad. The logic just that's how it all 372 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: goes in their heads. If you think that we should 373 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: have a more secure border, that's racist and the country 374 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 4: not wanting to deal with the massive cost the socioeconomic costs, right, 375 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 4: the costs that come from people arriving here who do 376 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: not have the means to support themselves. We're going to 377 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: need you know, half of Americans don't even pay any taxes. 378 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 4: All these people are like, oh, but we need the 379 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: immigrants to do the jobs. 380 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: That's all. 381 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: The illegal immigrants are not doing the jobs that are 382 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: Maretaericans won't do in adding to the economy in a 383 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: way that's not positive over the life cycle. 384 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: I hate to break the news to everybody. 385 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's basically just if you want to secure border, 386 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: you're racist, and that's what's led us to this, that's 387 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: what's led us to all these cities. Oh no, we 388 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: can't help federal law enforcement. We cannot deport people because 389 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: there are very few white illegal immigrants who come to 390 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: the country. There are very few, and there are some 391 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: there are some countries where you know, there might be 392 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: some Albanians, there might be some people from different countries 393 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: who are sneaking in illegally. You'd have to look at 394 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 4: what the numbers are. But it is overwhelmingly a non 395 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: white phenomenon. And so the media, in the way that 396 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 4: it does with so many issues, makes this about race 397 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: instead of rule of law. Benefit for the American people, 398 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: benefit for all Americans of all races. Illegal immigration is 399 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 4: bad for Black Americans, White Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, everybody. 400 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: But they say, legally have a problem with it. 401 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: You're a racist. 402 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: What And legal immigrants, yes, overwhelmingly or of different races too, 403 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: who have said this shouldn't be happening. I mean a 404 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: lot of people who've come here legally from Venezuela for instance. 405 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: See that we're getting the people that were in prisons 406 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: in Venezuela suddenly showing up in their hometowns and their 407 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: home states, and they're here legally, and they did what 408 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: they should have done to become American citizens, and they 409 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: don't want their kids having to deal with what Lake 410 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: and Riley just dealt with. None of us should have 411 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: to deal with violence at all. Again, I think this 412 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: is important. People say, oh, well, there's violence that happens 413 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: in America. Yes, I wish there was none, But if 414 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: you're an American citizen, at least you are supposed to 415 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: be here. Like, it's hard to stop every crime from occurring, 416 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: but shouldn't we stop people who are engaging in violent 417 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: predatory acts on American citizens from ever being able to 418 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: enter the country. Isn't that the fundamental goal of every 419 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: politician and every government at its most basic level, to 420 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: protect the citizens from being the victims of violence. That's 421 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: the number one job, I would argue of any government 422 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: is to try to protect the life, liberty, and safety 423 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: of the American citizen. 424 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: I think that for Democrats, honestly, it's it's such a 425 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: central part of their psychology, their number. They think the 426 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: number one job of the government is to is to 427 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: not be racist. Yes, whatever that means, right, well, what 428 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: does that even mean? That's a whole other conversation. But 429 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: the most important thing for the United States government is 430 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: to not be racist. And you know, if that means that, 431 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: we can't, you know, do any profiling of guys who 432 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: are learning to take planes off but not how to 433 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 4: land them. 434 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: Hey, don't want to be racist. 435 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: I mean, this is we We've been through this many 436 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: times on many issues where instead of just applying the 437 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 4: law and applying common sense, we're told, sorry, that would 438 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 4: be racist, and then we suffer, all Americans suffer horrible 439 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: consequences because of how the left frames these issues, no doubt, 440 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: And and again I think it's just important that we 441 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: share because we've talked and I'm not trying to ignore 442 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 4: there are a lot of other cases. 443 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: This one just went to trial. It has been a 444 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: flashpoint because it is emblematic of the failures at the border, 445 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: and I wanted to make sure that we got you 446 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: the absolute latest on that. All right, we come back. 447 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: We'll try to close with some positive things and try 448 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: to send you off into your Wednesday. 449 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: Afternoon in good spirits. 450 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: There are many things to be very excited about in 451 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: the direction of our country and the choices that we 452 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: are making. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 473 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 474 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: Well, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're closing up 475 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: shop here shortly. I want to tell you that this 476 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: is a surprise for some of you. But Clay has 477 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: fantastic dance moves. 478 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: I do. He is true. 479 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: He is a very you know light out there on 480 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 4: his feet on the dance floor, can make can make 481 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: the things happen. And you get a good sampling of 482 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: this with his Trump dance. It's the Trump Dance, I 483 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 4: guess or Clay's version of the Trump Dance. And we 484 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: are asking people to submit videos of their own Trump dance. 485 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 4: We're trying to get everybody in the in the I 486 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 4: don't know, the Holiday spirit slash Victory Spirit for America. 487 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 4: Trump Dance at Clay and Buck on x or Instagram 488 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: if you tag at Clay and Buck show us yes what. 489 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: No, I was just gonna say. I would love to 490 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: see the most inventive locations. The most inventive maybe a 491 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: lot of you with your friends and family that are 492 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: coming together for Thanksgiving and the holiday season. See if 493 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: you can entertain us where we look at it and 494 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: we think, my goodness, that's great. So anywhere around the world, 495 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: anywhere with your family members, try to be inventive and 496 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: put your own twist. We'd like to see it. I 497 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: think people will enjoy it during the holiday season. And 498 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: you can tag us at Clay and Buck with your 499 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: version of the Trump dance. 500 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the Trump Dance. I even did a little 501 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 4: version here with my crocket coffee and hey, here we go, 502 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: here we go, Trump Dance, Crocket Coffee Trump Dance. So yes, indeed, 503 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: the Trump Dance is a source of joy for so 504 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 4: many of us. You know, you really, you gotta like 505 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 4: there's a certain way that he does it the best. Listen, 506 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: no one does it better than the Trumpster himself. He's 507 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: the master of the Trump Dance. 508 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: That is true. 509 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: Not everybody Clay is enamored with the Trump dances. A 510 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: little sad, but you know, we gotta just tell it 511 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 4: like it is. Here over on CNN, Abby Phillip is 512 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: not happy to see these athletes stepping into your realm. Here, 513 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: these athletes who knew this Trump dance, because that you 514 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: see is political. Whereas Colin Kaepernick taking a knee to 515 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: denigrate the United States during the Pledge of Allegiance national anthem, 516 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: sorry sorry, national anthem, national anthem. 517 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: That is non that is social justice play. This is 518 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: twenty four place. 519 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 6: It's all a matter of perspective or jerseys. Sports has 520 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 6: never been politics free and they aren't now. And just 521 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 6: as an example, suddenly you're seeing a lot of athletes 522 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 6: doing this. It's their version of Donald Trump doing his 523 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 6: version of Conan O'Brien's string dance, despite looking like dad's 524 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 6: without much rhythm at a bar mitzvah. Republicans have reveled 525 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 6: in this culture war crossover. To be honest, I'm not 526 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 6: sure people are losing their minds over players doing the 527 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 6: Trump dance on the field. It's fine, but they did 528 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 6: lose their minds when NFL players like Colin Kaepernick did 529 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 6: not take a political stance but took a social justice stance. 530 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 6: There's a distinction between those two things. It is interesting 531 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 6: that there's been this big turnaround. 532 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: Come on, oh, okay, a few things here. 533 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: First of all, what does she say I had never 534 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: heard this that it started with Conan O'Brien. 535 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: This is not a thing that i've ever heard. He's 536 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: not somebody. 537 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: I didn't know that he was a great choreographer of 538 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: dancing to begin with, I was unfamiliar with this attribution. 539 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that I don't think has any basis in fact, 540 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: at least not that I've seen. But the idea, first 541 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: of all, that taking a knee during the national anthem 542 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: is akin to a celebratory dance, and that taking a 543 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: knee during the anthem is less controversial or less political 544 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: is crazy talk. The celebrations in the end zone are 545 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: of a wide variety and have been for a long time. 546 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: But taking a knee jury, and so the NFL has said, 547 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: by the way, this doesn't violate any NFL rules, is 548 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: not considered political in nature. And I'm not sure that 549 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: everybody doing the dance is a Trump voter. I think 550 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: it's more likely than not, because you would have been 551 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: exposed to it. But when something becomes trendy, eventually it 552 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: takes on a life of its own and people are 553 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: doing their own spins on it and everything else. But 554 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: Colin Kapp, first of all, is a moron, and I've 555 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time, unfortunately having to talk about 556 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: what a moron he is. But he was denigrating the 557 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: United States and police officers, and I think a lot 558 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: of times this gets lost. He referred to Buck police 559 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: officers as modern day slave catchers. He said that he 560 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: played and practiced in socks that depicted police officers as pigs. 561 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: He said that the NFL draft was a modern day 562 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: slave auction and that players were slaves. These are three things, 563 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: and they made a Netflix documentary. I can't believe this 564 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: is even real, Buck. I think you remember seeing the 565 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: clip where they had guys standing on the stage as 566 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: NFL draft picks hoping to get paid millions of dollars. 567 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: And it is a bit of a meat market, right. 568 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: You have to prove how strong you are, how fast 569 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: you are. It's a big audition for a multimillion dollar 570 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: job that every one of every race aspires to to 571 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. They turned that in the Netflix 572 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: documentary into slaves on the auction block, and Kaepernick argued 573 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 1: that it was basically the modern day version of that. 574 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: So to claim that that is not in any way 575 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: political and was just about social justice, I don't know 576 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: if Abby Phillip is poorly informed or also a moron. 577 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a combination of both. But there is a 578 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: joy and an exuberance in the celebration of the Trump dance, 579 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: which is designed to appeal to everyone, and saying that 580 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: the NFL is a modern day slave auction, I'm sorry, 581 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: is a political commentary that the vast majority of people 582 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: disagree with. And let me just add this, buck, nobody 583 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: begrudges athletes from being able to have whatever political belief 584 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: they want to have. But when you decide that everybody 585 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: has to take note of you during the moment of 586 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: the national ante them, that is different than in a 587 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: postgame press conference saying whatever you think about whatever subject 588 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: under the sun. People might disagree with that, but it's 589 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: very different. They were all so that was all so dishonest. 590 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: I mean, if you showed up at the funeral, I 591 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: mean remember there was that group the like the Westboro 592 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: Baptist Church. You know, you can you can be opposed 593 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: to a US war somewhere. It's another thing to show 594 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: up at the funeral of service members and say, you know, horrible. 595 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: Things at their funeral. Do you know what I'm saying? 596 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, you don't get to get away with that and 597 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: be like, oh, it's free speech, Like no, you're a 598 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: jerk and people should despise you. 599 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: NFL players they want to. 600 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: The reason they did it is because you know, people 601 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: at Kapridick they're childish, they're babies. Nobody would care what 602 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 4: they did unless they were being disrespectful. It was a tantrum, 603 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: and then to attach social justice to it is pathetic. 604 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 4: And I'm glad that I think the American people, by 605 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 4: overwhelming majority, saw through that crap because people don't really 606 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: do it anymore. 607 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: And now they're doing the Trump dance. Oh yeah, it's fantastic. 608 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're a huge Tim Walls fan, 609 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: you can do Tim Wall's spirit fingers when you score 610 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: a touchdown in the end zone and you can celebrate his. 611 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: And looking sprightly is completely within the realm of what 612 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: anyone is allowed to do. If you want jazz hands 613 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 4: Tim Walls, you can do jazz hands Tim Walls. 614 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: That's fine. 615 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: If you want to do his awkward leg kick and 616 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: combine it with the jazz hands because you're such a 617 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: big Tim Walls fan and you happen to be an 618 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: NFL player, more power to you. Remember, after all, Democrats 619 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: told us that Tim Walls was the avatar of masculinity, 620 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: which was going to connect with the young male voter 621 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: and the midwestern, non college educated voter. He was their flashpoint. 622 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: He was there sign of Remember they tried to call 623 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: him coach Walls, so everybody can do that too. 624 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 4: You know, none of the Wall stuff was surprising when 625 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: you knew. I know, people are calling him tampon Tim 626 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 4: the moment you found out that he was putting tampons 627 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: in boys boys restrooms, you know, in schools. No, like, 628 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: red blooded American who has the choice about as a 629 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 4: policy matter to do that would do that. 630 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: That's a weirdo move. So really and it was funny. 631 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: Remember they tried to say JD. 632 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 4: Vans, who's really the opposite of weird, like just kind 633 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: of an American success story top the But there's nothing 634 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 4: weird about JD. Van's him, They tried, It's just what 635 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: they always do. 636 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: They tried to. 637 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: Accuse JD of being what Tim Walls is to throw 638 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 4: people off. 639 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: It's like if you've stolen something and you say, did 640 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: you steal the thing? 641 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember when the Washington Post reporter said, tampon's 642 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: in boys bathroom is actually great in fact, and I'm 643 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: Paraphrasing her, she was like, imagine you're in high school 644 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: and the boy in the classroom you've run out of tampons, 645 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: and he pulls one out of his backpack and hands. 646 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 2: It to you. He would be like the homecoming king. 647 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 2: And I was like, what sort of sleep? 648 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 5: No? 649 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: Come on, wait what see you didn't see that? Oh 650 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: we got Friday, remind Ali, remind us of this because 651 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: Buck's solo tomorrow. 652 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna read at this combacul I swear anything is possible. 653 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 4: With the Washington Post, though, they got they got one 654 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 4: of their better known editorialists saying that that Trump just 655 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: wants to kill your children. 656 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: You know this, this is it. We have that audience, 657 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: I flagged it. Let's play it right here because this 658 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: is let's say this Jennifer the tamponline. 659 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: She's insane. 660 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: Go oh, Jennifer Rubens saying that Trump wants to kill 661 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: your children? 662 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: Do we have this? She actually said we have. I'm 663 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: not I'm not misquoting her. I believe which one is it? Guys? Sorry? 664 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: End of show. 665 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 4: And now we're throwing curveballs here all over the place. 666 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 4: It is, Oh, we don't, we don't know. 667 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: It's twenty five. It's twenty five. Play it. 668 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 7: You can't talk broad themes. You have to boil it 669 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 7: down to nuts and bolts, and you have to be pithy. 670 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 7: What do I mean by pithy? How about this Republicans 671 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 7: want to kill your kids? It's actually true. If you're 672 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 7: going to oppose vaccinations, if you're going to stop breakthrough 673 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 7: medical research, if you're going to allow miners and all 674 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 7: sorts of people to get some automatic weapons which they 675 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 7: use to shoot up schools, well then you are responsible 676 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 7: for kids' health and death. Unfortunately, it has to be 677 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 7: that simple and that direct, and it has to be 678 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 7: over and over and over again. 679 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: This woman needs a wellness check, not a check from 680 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 4: the Washington Post. 681 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: Something's really wrong with her. 682 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: Also, if you're Jeff Bezos, why should your business pay 683 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: this woman several hundred thousand dollars a year to be 684 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: saying Republicans want to kill your kids and for her 685 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: to think that's an incredible message. That's a question I 686 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: think a reasonable owner of that paper would be asking 687 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: when they employ morons like this