1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose, 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: sitting in for him today. We've got two more hours 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: to go, and they are going to be great hours, 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: starting again with this one. Because Joshua Becker is a 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal and USA today number one best selling 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: author of five books, The Minimalist Home, The More of Less, Simplify, 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Clutter Free with Kids. Is that possible? He says it is, 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: and things that matter. I've read his books. He has 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: helped me so much to really clean up my life 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: and declutter. He's got a sixth book that's coming out too. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: It's called Uncluttered Faith, and it releases February tenth. You 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: can buy that book, pre order that one, and buy 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: any of the other books I mentioned anywhere that books 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: are sold. He's the founder of Becoming Minimalist. He is 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: also the creator of Simplify magazine, and his Uncluttered course 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: has helped people clear out the clutter and refocus on 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: what matters most. He's got a YouTube video that's new 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: every week. It reaches hundreds of thousands of people. And 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: beyond all of this, he's the founder of The Hope Effect, 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: and that's a nonprofit that's reshaping how the world cares 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: for orphans. I think that's beautiful. Welcome to the show, 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 1: Joshua Becker. You're on Sean Handy Show with Rose. 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: Well, Rose, thank you so much for having me. He 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: did a wonderful first hour. I'm privileged to be a 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: part of this important conversation. 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, I do think it's important because 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: I think when we go into the new year, it's 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: so important to just clean everything up, I mean, get 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: it organized so we can really focus on the things 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: that matter. So I've got to ask you, what does 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: it mean to have a minimalist lifestyle. 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Well, that is a great question right off the bats. 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Let's see a minimalist lifestyle. When I think of it, 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: it is the intentional decision to get rid of distractions 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: so I can live a life focused on the things 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: that matter most. Now, let me unpack that just briefly, 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: because I think most people when they hear the word 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: minimalism think about possessions. I have too much stuff in 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: my home, I have too much clutter. And that's a 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: great place to start. It doesn't have to end there, 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: but it's a great place to start. I found minimalism. 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago, I spent hours cleaning out my garage 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: while my two children, age five and two, had to 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: play alone all morning long in the backyard. And it 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: was just this moment of noticing how all the things 46 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: I owned I'd spent hours taking care of, we're taking 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: my time and my money and my energy, and we're 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: keeping me from spending my time, money, and energy on 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: my two children that meant the most to me. So 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: minimalism was removing physical possessions from my home so I 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: had more time and money to spend on my kids. 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: And who can argue with that? I mean, because I 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: think that when we really stop to think about all 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: of this and what you just said, we do spend 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: too much time, money, and energy on those things that 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: don't even matter the most to us. And when I 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: look at all of the things that you've accomplished, Joshua, 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: and the books you've written, you've got the magazine, you've 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: got your YouTube videos, and you've got the Hope Effect, 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: do you think that by learning to live this way 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: in this lifestyle, that has helped you to do and 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: accomplished so much. Because so many of us we have 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot on our plate, but we don't know sometimes 64 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: where to start, and there are distractions, and there are 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: things that are draining us of our energy that you 66 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: just spoke of. 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I appreciate that. I've always been a driven 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: individual for sure, and learned that from my parents and grandparents, 69 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: and so certainly that ambition and want to bring about 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: the biggest, the greatest good in the world that I 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: can has always been a part of my life. But 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: I think definitely adopting a minimalist mindset has allowed me 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: to accomplish more and to do better work. I think 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people assume minimalism means that they are 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: going to accomplish less in life. It's like a minimalist 76 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: approach to life is like checking out of doing my 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: best or chasing ambition or goals. But I found that 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: it's just the opposite, that the fewer things I owned, 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: the more of my life I could direct towards work 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 2: that mattered, goals that mattered. Our world is so full 81 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: of distractions today, and so I think learning to get 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: rid of them, whether that is the physical possessions we own, 83 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: or the digital clutter, or the schedules that we keep, 84 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: or the habits that we have. I think learning to 85 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: limit those distractions is one of the greatest skills of 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: our age and it clears pathway for significance, fulfillment, and meaning. 87 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: So I'm so passionate about minimalism and helping people see 88 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: the value of simplicity and focus and intentionality in their 89 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: day today life. 90 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you how that actually living 91 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: with less can make you more generous because I know 92 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: that you've talked about this, and in fact I called 93 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: you yesterday so excited. I'm like, Josh, would you realize 94 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: that you really sound like John Wesley? Because John Wesley 95 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: had a sermon once that was entitled The Use of Money, 96 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: and he just talks about how we're spending money on 97 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: these things right when once he realized that there were 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: others in need and he didn't have that extra money 99 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: to meet that need, he felt really bad about himself 100 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: and about how he was using his money. So has 101 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: minimalism changed the way that you view and the way 102 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: that you use money? 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Well, certainly. So this was fifteen years ago as me 104 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: and my wife and our two kids five to and 105 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: at the time when I was introduced to minimalism, we 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: went through our home we got rid of sixty to 107 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: seventy percent of our possessions took about nine months, so 108 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: this wasn't an overnight project. Along the way, it became 109 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: pretty clear that if I was going to own less 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: and buy less, then I would be spending less money 111 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 2: on myself and on my family. Not because I wouldn't 112 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: be providing for my family. It was just a healthy 113 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: realization that I didn't need nearly as much as the 114 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: world kept telling me that I needed to own, and 115 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 2: in fact, that my life was freer when I owned less. 116 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: And so the question of so I'm still passionate about 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: work and doing work well, and as John Wesley says, 118 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: that we should be earning as much as we can 119 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: in honest ways, I began questioning, so what am I 120 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: going to do with the money that comes into my 121 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: life if I don't have to spend it at Poles 122 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: or Target or Michael's or Amazon. Sorry to call it 123 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: any any advertisers of max. 124 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: J Nex is like a sport for me, but go ahead. 125 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: And suddenly I began to realize that, hey, I can 126 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: dream bigger dreams for my money. Is the way I 127 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: like to say that the money that's coming into my 128 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: life doesn't have to be used for a bigger screen television, 129 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: or more clothes to go in my closet that I'm 130 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: not going to wear, or a new or nicer car 131 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: that I can legitimately use my money to solve problems 132 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: that I see in the world. And I have found 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: that there's nothing more joyful than aligning our spending with 134 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: our greatest values. It is a it's a powerful way 135 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: to live, and especially as we enter the year end season, 136 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: I would encourage anybody and everybody to give to causes 137 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: they believe in. 138 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, that's perfect. And that leads me into the 139 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: next question. If someone wanted to begin living like this, 140 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen overnight. What are some of the first 141 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: steps that they could take or things they could think 142 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: about in the new year to make a difference Like that? 143 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: Well, I always encourage people, if they want to begin 144 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: owning less they can see the benefits of minimalism in 145 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: their life, to start in the easiest place that they 146 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: could find in their home. Like a lot of people, 147 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: when we think about decluttering, we think about the attic, 148 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: the basement, the garage, Like what am I gonna do 149 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: with all these photos? Meanwhile, just declutter your bedroom, declutter 150 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: your living room or the bathroom, a space where you 151 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: can find that calm and energy, where you can create 152 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: a calm a home that restores your calm and energy 153 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: rather than drains it. Start in the easiest spaces, get 154 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: one done, and then move on to the next one 155 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: and the next one, and eventually you'll build up that 156 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: skill and muscle to focus a little bit more on 157 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,239 Speaker 2: places like your attic and photos and paperwork. 158 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: I think that's really good advice. 159 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: You know. 160 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: One of the things I think about too when I 161 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: think about clutter. Just recently, my sister and I had 162 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: to clean out my dad's belongings after he passed. And 163 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: the question I have for you is why do we 164 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: feel that we owe it to past generations to hold 165 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: on to so much? I mean, how should that shape 166 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: how we think about legacy. That's really not legacy, is 167 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: it keeping their stuff? 168 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: Right? 169 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And I think this can be different 170 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: for different people and different personality types. As I think 171 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: about that, generally speaking, I think that we know innately 172 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: that we are a product of the people who have 173 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: gone before us, and so there's a little bit of 174 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: gratitude and wanting to remember who those people were in 175 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: our lives, what values they conveyed, And so I think 176 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: there's some innate desire to hold on to some of 177 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: those possessions. But what we need to remember is that 178 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: we honor the past generations the most when we live 179 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: our life to the fullest today. And so certainly, let's 180 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: hold on to some of those things that represent our 181 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: parents and our grandparents, or a spouse that's passed away, 182 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: or a child that's passed away, Like, let's hold on 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: to a few things that remind us of them. But 184 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: if we are holding on to so much stuff that 185 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: it's keeping us from bringing about the greatest good that 186 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: we can in the world today, then I don't think 187 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: we're honoring our past generations by living a burdened life today, 188 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: and so finding that balance is important for sure. 189 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Well that's really good. You've got a new book now 190 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: and it's called Uncluttered Faith. So how has minimalism shaped 191 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: your spiritual life? And how do you put that into 192 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: a daily faith practice? 193 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Uncluttered faith is all about the spiritual blessings that 194 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: come into our life when we actually live out what 195 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: Jesus invited us to do. Concerning money and possessions. Did 196 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: you know that the average America spends less than ten 197 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: minutes a day on their faith based practice, that's both 198 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: personal and corporate. Average American less than ten minutes a 199 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: day on faith, but over two hours a day on 200 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: their physical possessions, managing, buying, get rid, getting rid of cleaning, 201 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: whatever it might be. And so one of the ways 202 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: I think that we grow the most spiritually is when 203 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: we begin to see the Bible a little bit differently. 204 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: That Jesus's call to generosity, that Paul's call that it's 205 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: better to give than to receive, isn't something that we 206 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: just know or we think to be true in our hearts, 207 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: but we actually begin to live out in our daily 208 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: lives actually giving more than we are receiving. And when 209 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: we do that, I think all the spiritual benefits and 210 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: many of the spiritual blessings that we find written about 211 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: in the New Testament, we begin to take hold of 212 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: an experience to a much greater degree than we ever 213 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: thought before. 214 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it feels good. Let's just be honest, it 215 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: feels really good. And you know, if one of the 216 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: things that I want to make sure that I pass 217 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: on to everyone today is just considering the new year 218 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: that's coming, and we've talked about that. But if you 219 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: had to in a nutshell, because we've got about three 220 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: minutes left here, a little less than the three, if 221 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: you were to leave a message or offer some hope 222 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: in terms of those people who feel like overwhelmed, Oh 223 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't think I can do that. Even 224 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the bathroom of the closet it seems overwhelming, or a drawer, 225 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: or even living a less cluttered, faithful life. What would 226 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you say to them to get started? How can you 227 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: encourage them that this can happen and it's not as 228 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: difficult as they may think. 229 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think of a couple things come to mind. 230 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: Number One, trust your heart on this. If you're listening 231 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: to this message today and you're looking around your house 232 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: and you're thinking, you're right, I have too much. My 233 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: life could be better if I own less and I 234 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: had more calm in my physical environment than trust that 235 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: and believe that to be true. Number Two, I think 236 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: that overwhelm comes into our life when we see too 237 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: large of a project in too short of a time. 238 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: And so if I'm thinking I'm going to declutter my 239 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: entire home right away. Then you're going to feel overwhelmed. 240 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: But we overcome that overwhelm when we say, Okay, I 241 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: don't need to do my whole house. I can do 242 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: this one bathroom cabinet, I can do this one drawer, 243 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: I can do the bookcases, I can do the entertainment 244 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: center like I can do this one spot. And then 245 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: when we accomplish that, we feel good about ourselves. We 246 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: see momentum taking place. And the third thing that I 247 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: would encourage people is that your predisposition doesn't have to 248 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: be your future. And so maybe my home has always 249 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: been cluttered, or I've never been able to find time 250 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: for God in my life, or I've always lived a 251 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: too busy life. That may have been who you are 252 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: in the past, but making small positive changes today, we're 253 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: all in process. We're all growing, we're all becoming better 254 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: people hopefully, and small steps can get you there. 255 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Now that's well said. Thank you. So we're talking to 256 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Joshua Becker. He's the author of several books. You've got 257 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: to check out his books also his platform, Becoming Minimalist. 258 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: I have learned so much on that platform. He's got 259 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: Simplifying magazine and his Unclattered courses are available to you. 260 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: But the newest book, Uncluttered Faith, releases February tenth, and 261 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: you can re order that book or purchase the other 262 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: ones anywhere books are sold. Joshua, thank you so much 263 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: for helping us get started in a very healthy way 264 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: for the new year. 265 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: And thank you for the conversation. 266 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it was great. All right, stay with us. 267 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: We have so much more coming up. A one eight 268 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: hundred nine four one Sean, get your phone calls in. 269 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Handedy Show. My name is Rose. 270 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: Enjoying my time with you, and listen. I'd enjoyed even 271 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: more if I hear from you, and I see the 272 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: lines are lighting up, and it's eight hundred nine four 273 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: one Sean eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. 274 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Just want to remind you to follow me on social media. 275 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: It's roseannplugged dot com. That's my website. Instagram is Rose unplugged, 276 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: and the number one Facebook is Rose Unplugged. Now let's 277 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: jump to my ministry. The ministry is she is called 278 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: by him and you can go dot com to check 279 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: it out and you can leave a Prairie request there 280 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: on the website and uh, it can be left. 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And I have to 291 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: share this story with you because you know, these days, 292 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: it just seems like big corporations get slammed no matter 293 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: what they do. People say they're greedy, they exploit workers, 294 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: they only care about profits. And yeah, sure some companies 295 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: deserve that criticism, but let's not forget business can also 296 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: do amazing things when leaders care about their people and 297 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: get it right. So you got to hear this story. 298 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: It's out of Louisiana, a family owned company called fiber Bond. 299 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: It was sold earlier this year for one point seven 300 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: billion dollars. But here's the part that really stands out. 301 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: The former CEO, Graham Walker, made sure a portion of 302 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: the proceeds. Now, remember it was one point seven billion, 303 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: that a portion of those proceeds went straight to his employees. 304 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: Can you believe that? Here's the result, two hundred and 305 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: forty million dollars in bonuses for five hundred and forty 306 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: full time workers. That's about four hundred and forty three dollars. 307 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, four hundred and forty three thousand. I peaked 308 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: a fourth grade math so beer with me. Four hundred 309 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: and forty three thousand dollars a person over the next 310 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: five years. Can you believe that? How would you like 311 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: to receive that? So the guy's been at Fiberbrown for decades. 312 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: He helped brow the company from a very small team 313 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: into this respected business, and in a letter to his team, 314 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: he talked about the long hours they all spent together, 315 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: the challenges, and the dedication that made the company what 316 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: it is. He called all of them part of the 317 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: success of the company, and he said that the success 318 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: was profound and sacred. So this impact, of course, has 319 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: been life changing for the employees. You can only imagine, 320 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: and people online have buzzing about the story they're calling 321 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: it inspiring and generous, and it's not just a rare 322 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: feel good story. It's an example of how business done 323 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: well can lift entire communities. And that's what they did that. 324 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: You know, I just think it's really cool that these 325 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: kind of things are happening. And you know, it reminded 326 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: me of a story that I was reading over the 327 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: holiday because it had to do with Montgomery Ward and 328 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: there was a piece I read. I think it might 329 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: have been an epoch times, but it's the story of 330 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: Rudolph the Red Nose Renger, and a lot of us 331 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: know him as that little reindeer who saved Christmas, but 332 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: the origins were really special. In nineteen thirty nine, Robert May, 333 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: he was a copywriter at Montgomery Ward, created Rudolph as 334 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: a story for his young daughter, and as the story goes, 335 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: she had asked him why her mom, who was dying 336 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: of cancer, was different from other moms, and why her 337 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: life was different than other children's lives. So May started 338 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: telling her this story about this reindeer who was like 339 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: a misfit, and as he was telling it, the story 340 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: goes that the story continued to grow and he spread 341 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: the story among his coworkers telling them about it, and 342 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: Montgomery Ward recognized the potential in that story. They turned 343 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: it into a holiday booklet to give away to the 344 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: kids as they came into the store, and it was 345 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: an instant but then over the years it grew into 346 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: like this cultural icon that we all know today. Right. 347 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: But here's the part that really stands out. And we 348 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: talked earlier in the show about in the monologue about 349 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: how there are good things happening right there always have 350 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: been and even now with this business firebond, fiberbond. But 351 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the part that really stands out is that after years 352 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: of Rudolph being such a success, Montgomery Ward gave the 353 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: rights back to Robert May and that allowed him and 354 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: his family to benefit from the character that he created. 355 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: He made a lot of money then as a result, 356 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: because publishers were lining up to publish the book. So, 357 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: whether it's a Louisiana company sharing hundreds of millions in 358 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: bonuses with employees, or this department store years ago ensuring 359 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: a creator could profit from his own story, these moments 360 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: remind us that when business is done right, success isn't 361 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: just about the bottom line. It's about lifting up people 362 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: who help make it possible, and there are encouraging stories 363 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: and I'm going to share even more of the today. Okay, 364 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: it looks like Kenny is calling from Tennessee. Hey Kenny, 365 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: how are you a happy New Year? 366 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 367 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: Pretty good? 368 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 4: Really? 369 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking my call. You know, I have a 370 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: question and I was told make it quick, so I 371 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: will all the So much fraud has been uncovered in Minnesota, 372 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: and I think it's even going into Ohio now with 373 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: all the immigrants. And there's some independent journalists going down 374 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: and doing their own, uh independent investigations. Yes, while we 375 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 3: got our justice department and miss Rose Bondi hasn't sent anybody. 376 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: I haven't seen her face, no talk. She's always on Fox. 377 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: How come she's not doing anything. I want to know 378 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: if you if your listeners have said anything, is there 379 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: a complaint there or you know, how are you seeing that? 380 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: Well? We have to believe. Can you write that this 381 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: The depart is on it now at least right and 382 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: I agree with you that it had to come from this. 383 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: I think the guy was only what twenty three years 384 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: old or something. The journalist that really uncovered all of 385 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: this deserves a prize for all of that and that's 386 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: been talked about, even by President Trump. But it is 387 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: unfortunate that it went on this loan because there have 388 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: been rumors of this for many, many years, right, and 389 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: it's been shoved under the carpet, and people have turned 390 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: their head or turned a deaf ear to it. So 391 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: we really should have been looking at it, maybe a 392 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: long time ago. But I have to believe that the 393 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: administration is on top of it now and that the 394 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: Department is also going to be on top of it. 395 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you, like what and it's 396 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: obscene when you read all the headlines about what's going 397 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: on there. 398 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: It's just crazy. Yes, that one person. 399 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Said they never saw any kids going into the daycare 400 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: center until today. They said they had never even seen 401 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: kids going in. I mean, like, there is so much 402 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: here to unwrap, and it's a problems and it's not good. 403 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: Walt should resign a lot of people who are calling 404 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: for him to do so. We'll just see what happens. 405 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: But Kenny, Yeah, you make a great point. Sweenie. Thank 406 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: you so much for calling in with that, and happy 407 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: New Year to you. 408 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: Happy New year, and thanks for having past your jack on. 409 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: Oh I know, is any great he's just so. I've 410 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: been to his church finally and it was just wonderful experience. 411 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: It really was a great church, great people there, and 412 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: a wonderful sermon. As always, Thanks Kenny Goblass. Also, there's 413 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Leo calling from my originally home state Pennsylvania. How are you, Leo? 414 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: Okay? 415 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: Thank you. I want to talk about clutter. And you see, 416 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 4: I'm the steward over previous generations possessions and I'm the 417 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: caretaker of that stuff and I am kind of. 418 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: Hesitant to redistribute it because if I did clutter or redistribute, 419 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: distribute the items to someplace else. 420 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 4: Then I don't want to regret having done. 421 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: That, because I might look back and say I should 422 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: have held onto that kind of thing. 423 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: But can you look at each item and Leo, that's 424 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: an overwhelming situation to be in. I know that that's 425 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: overwhelming for you, But can you look at each item 426 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: and say, what am I really going to regret? And 427 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: I love what Joshua Becker said. In fact, I just 428 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: texted him and told him that was my favorite thing 429 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: he said was that we need to live our lives 430 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: to the fullest today and every day, and we can't 431 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: hold on to stuff. I mean, it's the best thing 432 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: that we can do, the best way that we can 433 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: say I love you, parents, grandparents, great grandparents. The best 434 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: way to tell them that is to live your best 435 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: life right now, not to hold on to all of 436 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: their stuff, because when you're going, Leo, what's going to 437 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: happen with it? I mean, it's just stuff. And like 438 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: he said, take a few things. And this is silly, 439 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: but right near my door, I've got this bust. I 440 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: don't even know where I got it, but so I 441 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: made a little fun thing out of it. And I 442 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: have a camp that was my dad's and his reading 443 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: glasses on there, and I changed the hat out every 444 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: once in a while. It's like little homage to my father. 445 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, just something little that you don't have to 446 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: have a million and one little articles that were his, 447 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: that belonged to him, to remind you of him. You 448 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: don't need that. I think maybe you should buy one 449 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: of the books. I really do. I think it will 450 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: help you a lot, because it really did me. 451 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: Well check it out, I do. 452 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: I hope to listen to his YouTube videos. Yes, yes, 453 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: that would be great. Yes, yeah, try check that out too. 454 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: But you know, God bless you, Leo. That's huge. I 455 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: know it's overwhelming, but you can do it. And you 456 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to live with all of that. It's like 457 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: a burden that you're living with. And Happy New Year 458 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: to you, Leah. 459 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: Thank you, Happy for her to YouTuber, thank you, thank you, Sweedi. 460 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: And we've got Rudy. I'm going to go in blindly 461 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: to this. I don't know, Okay, Rudy from Indiana. How 462 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: are you, Rudy? 463 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? Good, good? Yeah. Because of Minnesota and the other 464 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: cities being sanctuary cities for the Simulians, uh, they wouldn't 465 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: lack ice in to deport the illegal immigrants. So now 466 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: the government's sending it Homeland Security. They're at this time 467 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: investigating Minnesota. They made some arrests. Now there's more coming 468 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 4: after the New Years, and the government has even threatened 469 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 4: to shut down funding to Minnesota. Well it's gonna get 470 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: a pretty rough for them. 471 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And don't you think it's 472 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: time for Tim Waltz to say, hey gotta go. 473 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think if it ties back even to 474 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi, she's not out of the woods yet. Whoops. 475 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Now they're and they are facing multiple alleged fraud schemes 476 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: that you know that's been plaguing that say, for a 477 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: very long time while of their social services. But I mean, 478 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: what horrible. 479 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 4: Than they're doing. So yeah, thank god they're doing something. 480 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think they will continue to do that too. 481 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, though, it's like a money laundering activity. 482 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: If everything is done to. 483 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: A couple, it's not just a couple of three four 484 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: dollars where we'll brush it off. It's thirty or more 485 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 4: million dollars than that. 486 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot of money involved here, and 487 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: it looks like, Yeah, it's a little scary to think 488 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: that this has gone on as long. And then and 489 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: then the question is how much of this is going 490 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: on in other places that we don't know about, and 491 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: how was it kept up? 492 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: It was you know, they're they're about to find out 493 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 4: and it's going to get pretty ugly. 494 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: Right yeah, and I hope they do too. Thank you 495 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: so much for your call, and happy New Year to you. 496 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a break here and let your 497 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: calls continue to come in. Eight hundred ninety four one 498 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: seawn eight hundred nine four one seven three two six 499 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: Please check me out social media. Rose Unplugged my ministry. 500 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: She is called by him and rumble in Real life network. 501 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Rose Unplugged is the name of my podcast. You know, 502 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: also get Jack Kibbs podcast there at real lifenetwork dot 503 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: com as well. All right, I'll be back with more 504 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: after this break. While a mainstream media is asleep at 505 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: the wheel, Hannity watches on the job, bringing you the 506 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: news no one else can. Sean Hannity, Welcome back to 507 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. Coming up next in the next 508 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: hour is doctor Peter mccallay. You all know him and 509 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: you will respect him because he has been the voice 510 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: of truth during some of our most difficult times when 511 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: we consider health in this nation. Let's take the phone 512 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: call from ros Is calling from Ohio. Hey, ros how 513 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: are you. 514 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 5: Hello. I don't think the general public really would understand 515 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 5: how deep the corruption is in these daycare centers because 516 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 5: you don't just open your door to a daycare center 517 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 5: and get funding from Title twenty of the federal government. 518 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 5: First of all, you have to have a building inspector. 519 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: Then you have to have the local health department because 520 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 5: you have food, and then you have in Ohio, what 521 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 5: is called the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services 522 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: would come in and inspect the place and then they 523 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: do it every year. 524 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: They get inspected and. 525 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 5: If there's a problem, it's more often. 526 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Now yeah, I mean, you're right, that's a good point. 527 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 5: So you have local, county and state involved here. 528 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: Oh, so you're saying. 529 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 5: The government, the federal government takes the word of the state. Now, 530 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 5: also on top of that, you have to the most 531 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 5: likely you have an LLC or a corporation name that's filed. 532 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 5: They don't do much checking with that. I know I've 533 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: had alc. 534 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, and I'm almost out of time, but 535 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to say ros thank you because I think 536 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: people you are absolutely right for pointing that out that 537 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: it has to go deeper. It absolutely must go deeper, 538 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: according to all of those things that you've mentioned. And 539 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see and we hope to see 540 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: it all uncovered. And one of the things I talked 541 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: about in the monologue today was being bold, going into 542 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: the new year boldly, and I'm afraid and that's what 543 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: that Nick Shirley did because he's a stitizen journalist, right, 544 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: but he knew that there was something not quite right, 545 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: and people have said that they hadn't seen anybody going 546 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: into that learning center in Minneapolis until Monday this week Monday, 547 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: because it was a couple of days after his video 548 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: went viral. But the point is that he suspected wrongdoing 549 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: and he did something about it. So of course these 550 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: are alleged and we're going to have to find out 551 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: more as time goes on. But he took things into 552 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: his own hands, and I think that's impressive, and I 553 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: think it demonstrates courage and boldness, and that's what I 554 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: think we all want to have in our lives of 555 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: do we go into this new year, twenty twenty six, 556 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: to be more courageous, to be bold to if we 557 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: see something that's not right, we need to call it out. 558 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: We really do. You're listening to the Sean Hannity Show. 559 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: Coming up next is doctor Peter Murcalla and mccaullaugh is 560 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: going to tell us how we can go into twenty 561 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: twenty six in the healthiest way.