WEBVTT - Encore: The King of Tears

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. I started listening to country music when I was

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<v Speaker 1>about twelve or thirteen. This was rural Ontario in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies. Everyone else my age was listening to The

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles or Fleetwood Mac or some properly Canadian rock band

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<v Speaker 1>like Rush. But for some inexplicable reason, I, a British

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaican kid marooned in the Canadian heartland, found solace in

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<v Speaker 1>the music coming out of Nashville. Lots of Johnny cash Lorette, Lynn,

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<v Speaker 1>Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings. I can still sing almost all

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<v Speaker 1>of Good Hearted Woman from memory, and of course George Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>I still remember the first time I heard the grand

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<v Speaker 1>tour step right up, come on in, if you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to take the Grand Tour of a lonely house that

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<v Speaker 1>once was home, sweet home, and then the amazing lines,

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing here to sell you, just some things

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<v Speaker 1>that I will tell you, some things I know will

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<v Speaker 1>chill you to the bone. To my Maudlin thirteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old heart, the line some things I know will chill

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<v Speaker 1>you to the bone was so fantastic, so over the top,

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<v Speaker 1>so bonkers, and just thinking about that lonely house that

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<v Speaker 1>was once home, sweet home brought tears to my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Pop music, particularly the pop music of that era, just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't compete with that. I carried George Jones in my

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<v Speaker 1>heart for a very long time until the point that

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<v Speaker 1>I decided it was time to revisit the question what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is country music doing when it makes you cry?

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<v Speaker 1>In Nashville, Tennessee, there is a songwriter named Bobby Braddock.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in his seventies, maybe five foot seven, bald head,

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<v Speaker 1>scruffy beard, wiry, like if you messed with them in

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<v Speaker 1>a bar, you'd probably lose. The most striking thing about

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<v Speaker 1>him is his eyes, which are the palest and most

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<v Speaker 1>intense shade of blue. He wears sunglasses a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost as if he needs to protect the world

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<v Speaker 1>from that look there. I met him on a music

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<v Speaker 1>row in Nashville. We had lunch, and then we sat

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<v Speaker 1>in one of the writer's rooms in the Sony building,

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<v Speaker 1>piano in the corner, couches to one side, and he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about his education in the music business.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I always had the reputation as being kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a quirky writer, maybe a little left field.

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<v Speaker 1>The turning point in Braddock's career was a song you've

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<v Speaker 1>probably heard of. It was performed by Tammy Wynette back

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<v Speaker 1>when she was the reigning Queen of country music nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight, about a mom who had to spell out

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<v Speaker 1>the word dvo rcee so her kids wouldn't know their

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<v Speaker 1>parents were splitting up.

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<v Speaker 3>So dw r C.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah wrote this, did it? Demo on it and no tikers,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody did it, nobody would recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>D iv o r C was a song with a gimmick.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddick did a lot of gimmicky songs back then. No

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<v Speaker 1>one wanted this one. So Braddick went to a friend

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<v Speaker 1>and longtime collaborator, Curly Putman, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, why is nobody recording? He said, I

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<v Speaker 2>think around the important part of your song said, sad song,

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<v Speaker 2>and your melodies on that part is too happy. What

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing was, oh, I wish that could stop

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<v Speaker 2>this lifty s a little bit like a like a

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<v Speaker 2>soap commercial. I said, well, what would you do? And

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<v Speaker 2>he gave a guitar and he had this really mournful

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<v Speaker 2>singing style. Tammy Whenette was a big fan of Curly singing,

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<v Speaker 2>she left her singing because he had I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>just he singing was just so sad. It gives it

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<v Speaker 2>a guitar and.

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<v Speaker 4>Said, oh, wish that we could start this, So I said,

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<v Speaker 4>just get your guitar, let's put it on.

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<v Speaker 5>Take what.

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<v Speaker 1>D I V O r C went to number one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Bobby Braddock's first great exercise in how to

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<v Speaker 1>make people cry, and from then on things just got sadder.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening to Revisionist History,

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood. This episode is

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<v Speaker 1>about something that has never made sense to me. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I'm a Canadian, or maybe Americans puzzle about

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<v Speaker 1>this too. I'm talking about the bright line that divides

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<v Speaker 1>American society, not the color line or the ideological line.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the sad song line. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why people don't talk about this more because it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>For the sake of argument, let's use the rock magazine

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<v Speaker 1>Rolling Stone's list of the best songs of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>the top fifty. These are the critics choices. Hotel California

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<v Speaker 1>by The Eagles comes in at forty nine, which, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I can tell, is a song about drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Tooty Fruity by Little Richard at forty three. Tutty Fruity,

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<v Speaker 1>which I remind you has is its signature lyric tooty fruity,

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<v Speaker 1>oh ruddy touty fruity, Oh rudy tooty fruity, Oh rudy

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<v Speaker 1>tooty fruity, oh rudy Wop Bop alo bop a loop

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<v Speaker 1>bam boom. There's Dancing in the Street at forty light,

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<v Speaker 1>My Fire Be My Baby, Nirvana's smells like teen Spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek and the Dominoes Leila. There are songs about wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to have sex, songs about having sex, songs about getting high,

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<v Speaker 1>presumably after having sex. Number one song on the list

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<v Speaker 1>like a Rolling Stone by Bob Dylan. Ah, You've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the finest schools, all right, miss Lonely, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know you only used to get juiced in it. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>ever taught you how to live out on the street,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're gonna have to get used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a song about someone who dropped out

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<v Speaker 1>of Harvard. The number one rock song of all time

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<v Speaker 1>is about dropping out of Harvard. In all of those

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<v Speaker 1>fifty songs, nobody dies after a long illness, No marriage

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<v Speaker 1>disintegrates nobody's killed on a battlefield. No mother grieves for

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<v Speaker 1>a son. The closest that any song in Rolling Stone's

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<v Speaker 1>list comes to being truly sad is Smokey Robinson's Tracks

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<v Speaker 1>of My Tears, which is first of all, number fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>so they put the sad song at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the list. And secondly, it's about a guy at a

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<v Speaker 1>party in their moments of greatest travail. The protagonists of

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll's sad songs still get to go to parties. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Just turn on a country music station, especially a traditional

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<v Speaker 1>country music station, and listen. It's like a different universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Marriage is going to hell, people staring into their shot

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<v Speaker 1>glass in a honky tonk, people dying young. If you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard John Prine's Unweed Fathers, it's a devastating bit

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<v Speaker 1>of songwriting about a teenage mom fleeing town. He sings

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<v Speaker 1>it with his wife Rachel.

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<v Speaker 6>Almost so Verio man smoking man Bell, Now come in,

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<v Speaker 6>Lolla bad.

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<v Speaker 7>Your daddy meant to hurt you, ever, it's just don live.

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<v Speaker 8>That you got his.

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<v Speaker 1>Those last two lines. Your daddy never meant to hurt

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<v Speaker 1>you ever. He just don't live here. But you've got

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes that's brutal, black subad dream.

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<v Speaker 2>All on.

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<v Speaker 1>We fove One half of the country, the rock music part,

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<v Speaker 1>wants their music to be hymns to extra version. The

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<v Speaker 1>other half wants to talk about real life dramas and

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<v Speaker 1>have a good cry. I don't get it. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who wrote that unwed father's song with John Prime,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock? Or maybe you've heard this another classic recorded

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<v Speaker 1>by Tammy Whynatt Golden.

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<v Speaker 8>Good, Long Time.

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<v Speaker 6>Arcas Loud the bung.

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<v Speaker 1>Bus Golden Ring. It follows a couple from first love

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<v Speaker 1>to the breakup of their marriage by tracing the journey

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<v Speaker 1>of their wedding ring from chop to pawnshop. It's a weeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wrote it, Bobby Braddock, and today, forty years after

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote it, Braddock is still mad about a one

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<v Speaker 1>word change made by the song's producer of Billy Cheryl,

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<v Speaker 1>because that made his song one crucial degree less sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But we had He says, you won't admit it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're running around and Billy changed it too.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you won't admit it, but I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>leaving town. That's not as that's not as powerful as

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<v Speaker 2>you're running around.

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<v Speaker 9>He says, you won't admit it, but I know you

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<v Speaker 9>leave in town.

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<v Speaker 10>She says one, thanks for circ I don't love you anymore.

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<v Speaker 10>It throws down the ring as she walks out the door.

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<v Speaker 2>I think country music is supposed to be about real life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I try to reflect that about all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold which brings us to maybe the greatest country song

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, certainly the saddest country song of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>the song that made me get on a plane and

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<v Speaker 1>go to Nashville. It was recorded by the great George Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the half dozen or so most iconic figures

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of country music. You just heard him

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<v Speaker 1>singing in Golden Ring. Jones was famously the husband of

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy Wynett for a time, a hard living, dissolute megastar. Once,

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<v Speaker 1>in the midst of an epic bender, jones family took

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<v Speaker 1>his keys away, so he got on his riding mower

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<v Speaker 1>and drove eight miles to the liquor store to get

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<v Speaker 1>some whiskey. This was a man who could pour his

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<v Speaker 1>fractured heart into his music like no one else. A

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<v Speaker 1>half dozen times in his career, Jones found a song

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<v Speaker 1>truly worthy of his talents, but it never got better

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<v Speaker 1>than he stopped loving her. Today, I still remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I first heard that song, and from the day I

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<v Speaker 1>started thinking about this episode, I haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 1>get it out of my head.

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<v Speaker 10>He said, I'll love you till I die. She told

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<v Speaker 10>him you forgetting time. As the years went slowly by,

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<v Speaker 10>She's still prayed up all his his wine.

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<v Speaker 11>He kept her pictures on his wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I need to tell you who wrote that song?

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock? Bobby Braddock is the king of tears.

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<v Speaker 7>But he still loved through it all, hoping she'd come

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<v Speaker 7>back again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man. One of the things that got me interested

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<v Speaker 1>in sad songs was a story my sister in law, Bev,

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<v Speaker 1>told me. She and my brother live in the same area.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Waterloo County in southern Ontario, and

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<v Speaker 1>a while ago she went to a performance by a

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<v Speaker 1>local chamber choir thirty singers. They sang a cantata called

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<v Speaker 1>Annalise by the British composer James Whitbourne, a choral composition

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<v Speaker 1>which puts the words of an Frank's diary to music.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this seems like a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>digression from country music, but it's a really useful case

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<v Speaker 1>study in understanding why some songs make us cry. The

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<v Speaker 1>performance Bev told me about was on a Sunday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>a free performance of the Public Library, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>very utilitarian, very nineteen sixties building on Queen Street in

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Kitchener. I've been there many times, waldewell carpet, that

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<v Speaker 1>old books library smell, which I have to admit, I love.

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<v Speaker 12>How many people are there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in their main reading room, moved around all the

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<v Speaker 3>tables and one hundred, one hundred and twentieth full, pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much standing room only.

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<v Speaker 13>Why as they're singing, I think, why is that also

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<v Speaker 13>not singing? And then I look over and I think

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<v Speaker 13>somebody else as Aprian, I'm not singing. That's odd because

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<v Speaker 13>everybody else in their parts is singing. And I realized

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<v Speaker 13>they were crying and they couldn't sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Bev says she cried pretty much through the entire performance.

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<v Speaker 1>She was looking straight ahead because she didn't want people

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<v Speaker 1>to see she was crying, but it didn't matter because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was crying. When the performance was over, Bev approached

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<v Speaker 1>the stage to talk to the soloist, the woman singing

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<v Speaker 1>Anne Frank's words.

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<v Speaker 3>I just went up to her afterwards and congratulated her

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<v Speaker 3>on the beauty of the piece then and her singing,

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, and how did you to sing without crying?

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<v Speaker 3>And she said, well, I couldn't look at Mark the

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<v Speaker 3>conductor because he was wiping tears from his eyes, and

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<v Speaker 3>I had my back to the choir, so that was good.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't look at anybody in the audience because

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<v Speaker 3>they were crying. So I just looked up in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle distance and I sang, it was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't memorized.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home in Canada when Bev told me

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<v Speaker 1>that story, so I called up Mark the conductor, and

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<v Speaker 1>the soloist, whose name is Natasha. They're actually husband and wife.

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<v Speaker 1>They only live a few minutes away from my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>So they came over. Mark sat at the piano in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room and Natasha stood behind him, and they

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<v Speaker 1>performed one of the pieces from Annalyst that they did

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<v Speaker 1>that day in the library.

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<v Speaker 14>This is the last movement. It's called Anne's Meditation. I

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<v Speaker 14>see the world, I see the world being slowly turned

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<v Speaker 14>turn into a wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I realized this is a crazy question, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a piece based on the Diary of Anne Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one of the most heartbreaking stories from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most horrific moments in recent history. But why

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<v Speaker 1>was everyone crying that day at the Kitchener Library. The

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<v Speaker 1>obvious reason is that the music is beautiful, so is

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<v Speaker 1>Natasha's singing. The performance is also authentic. There's nothing contrived

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It wasn't at Carnegie Hall. People weren't wearing

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<v Speaker 1>suits and evening gowns. They were at the Kitchener Library.

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<v Speaker 1>And whose family's getting books and kids running around and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's on stacking chairs with the tables pushed off to

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<v Speaker 1>the side. But here's the most important thing annelis is specific.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cantata about the actual experiences of a real person.

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<v Speaker 1>In her own words, Bev says that when she cried,

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<v Speaker 1>she started thinking about her own family, Mennonites, who escaped

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<v Speaker 1>terrible persecution in Russia. Natasha says that as she sang

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<v Speaker 1>about twelve year old and Frank, she was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>her own daughter, who was ten and who was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>right next to Bev in the audience. Beauty and authenticity

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<v Speaker 1>can create a mood. They set the stage. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that pushes us over the top into

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<v Speaker 1>tears is details. We cry when melancholy collides with specificity,

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<v Speaker 1>and specificity is not something every genre does well. Wild

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<v Speaker 1>Horses by the Rolling Stones, written by Keith Richards and

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Jagger. It's a song about a conversation a man

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<v Speaker 1>is having with a silent, suffering loved one. The story

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<v Speaker 1>goes that Mick Jagger dreamt up the verses while sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at the bedside of his then girlfriend Mary and Faithful,

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<v Speaker 1>as she recovered from an overdose. Oh love you suffer.

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<v Speaker 12>Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched you suffer a dull, aching pain. Now you've

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<v Speaker 1>decided to show me the same. No sweeping exit or

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<v Speaker 1>off stage lines could make me feel bitter or treat

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<v Speaker 1>you unkind. Wild Horses couldn't drag me away. Wild Wild

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<v Speaker 1>Horses couldn't drag me away. Wild Horses was recorded first

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<v Speaker 1>by the legendary Graham Parsons. Not long afterwards, Parsons died

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<v Speaker 1>of an overdose, and his friend in protege, the country

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<v Speaker 1>music singer Emmy Lou Harris, made a song in his memory.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote it with Bill Danoff. It's called from Boulder

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<v Speaker 1>to Birmingham.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't want a hee, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I got on the zep plane just to flow.

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<v Speaker 8>Damn nolder me, but all that you can show me,

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<v Speaker 8>he's a pre masco.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to hear said story.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who has suffered a terrible loss has gotten on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane and she's so numbed by grief that she

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<v Speaker 1>can no longer see those around her.

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<v Speaker 4>Blessed time a fool like this.

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<v Speaker 6>I was in the wilderness and again those on.

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<v Speaker 1>The from Boulder to Birmingham and wildhorses are both beautiful melancholy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're about the same thing, the ties the living and

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<v Speaker 1>the healthy have to those in pain. But which is

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<v Speaker 1>the sadder song? I don't think there's any question. Wild

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<v Speaker 1>horses is generic. Listen to how it starts. Childhood. Living

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<v Speaker 1>is easy to do the things you wanted. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>them for you. Graceless lady. You know who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I can't let you slide through my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Any idea? What is Mickey hammering on about? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Compare that to the specificity of looking down from the

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<v Speaker 1>airplane and seeing nothing but prairie. Then standing on a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain and watching a canyon burn.

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<v Speaker 8>Was our rackassle.

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<v Speaker 7>In the bosom of a.

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<v Speaker 6>I would hold.

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<v Speaker 5>Race away from bald.

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<v Speaker 14>About at sea.

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<v Speaker 7>I could see.

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<v Speaker 1>First she references the great black spiritual rock my soul

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<v Speaker 1>in the bosom of Abraham. The bosom of Abraham is

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<v Speaker 1>where the righteous dead go while awaiting judgment. Then she sings,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would also walk all the way from Boulder

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<v Speaker 1>to Birmingham. Now she's locating her grief. I would make

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<v Speaker 1>a pilgrimage from progressive hippie liberal. Remember this is nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three, dope smoking Colorado back to the repressive heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the old South, just to see your face. Two

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<v Speaker 1>completely different specific images, each with its own set of

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<v Speaker 1>emotional triggers, and she's piled one on top of another.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Vornan, the music director of the choir in My hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>says that there's a part in Analyse that does the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing Anne is.

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<v Speaker 5>They're in hiding already, and she starts singing, and the

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<v Speaker 5>composer has set these words in kind of a style

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<v Speaker 5>of an American sousa march, and so she's talking about

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<v Speaker 5>being in the bathtub and being scrubbed in the bathtub,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's a Susa. We scrub, scrubs, scrub ourselves in

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<v Speaker 5>La Tinta right, very happy and optimistic music.

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<v Speaker 1>And Frank in the bathtub to the tune of a

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<v Speaker 1>Sousa march with the horrors of the Holocaust outside her door.

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<v Speaker 1>Three absolutely concrete images in merciless combination.

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<v Speaker 5>It just floored me every time I heard it because

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<v Speaker 5>it was so close to our own daughter, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>to think that she would have to create this kind

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<v Speaker 5>of fiction in order to just get through the day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you get tears. You make the story so

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<v Speaker 1>real and the details so sharp, and you add in

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<v Speaker 1>so many emotional triggers that the listener cannot escape. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a risky thing to do, right If you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>a talented composer, and you don't do a sensitive rendition

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<v Speaker 1>of those lyrics, they could fall flat, could seem forced,

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<v Speaker 1>even offensive. Far easier just to fall back on the

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<v Speaker 1>blend cliche that wild horses couldn't drag you away. Country

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<v Speaker 1>music makes people cry because it's not afraid to be specific.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, she came to see him one last time,

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<v Speaker 11>and we all wondered if she would, and it kept

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<v Speaker 11>brought in through.

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<v Speaker 10>My mind.

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<v Speaker 11>This time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock was born in Auburndale, Florida, a little town

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<v Speaker 1>between Tampa and Orlando. His father grew Citrus. They were

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<v Speaker 1>Church of Christ, just about the most fundamentalist of fundamentalist Christians.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddock moved to Nashville in nineteen sixty four, just after

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<v Speaker 1>getting married, to seek his fortune in the music business.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote his memoirs a few years ago. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>A Life on Nashville's Music Row. I read it before

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<v Speaker 1>I went to see him, and the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>describe the book is that it's exhausting. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that in a bad way because I couldn't put it down.

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<v Speaker 1>But so much happens.

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<v Speaker 12>You've lived this incredibly tumultuous, emotionally tumultuous lit Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 12>in the book it sounds like the first precipitating event

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<v Speaker 12>is the death of your son.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddock was touring with the country music legend Mardy Robbins

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. He and his wife, Sue had a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>The child was just a few months old when he died.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I was in town, not on the road with

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<v Speaker 2>Marty Robbins, every single day we'd buy fresh flowers, go

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<v Speaker 2>put it on. It's gray. We were just pathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Sue fight. She cheats on him. He cheats

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<v Speaker 1>on her, they break up, they get back together, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a daughter, they divorce. His ex wife mysteriously vanishes.

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<v Speaker 1>He drinks a lot, gets into fights, owes enormous sums

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<v Speaker 1>to the irs, has a major bout with depression, smokes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pot, lurches from one volcanic event to

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<v Speaker 1>the next, and through it all, Braddock writes songs, hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 12>You were kind of tolerance for emotional volatility seems extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Tolerance is probably a pretty good word for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddock walks over to the keyboard on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the room. He begins to talk about an old

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend named Angela, who committed suicide by driving her car

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<v Speaker 1>into the river.

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<v Speaker 2>When Angela died, her mother took her baby to raise it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she sent me a picture with a little girl,

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<v Speaker 2>Angela's child when she was about four or five years old,

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<v Speaker 2>look just like her mom. Picture her standing out in

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<v Speaker 2>the yard. And boy did a number on me, despite

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<v Speaker 2>all the dishters.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a song about that in twenty minutes. He

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<v Speaker 1>played it for me. Then he played his favorite bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a sad Randy Newman song. He played me a

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking song he wrote once after getting up in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and passing his lover in the hallway,

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<v Speaker 1>and as he played one weeper after another, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>that the thing I'd said about Braddock's tolerance for emotional

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<v Speaker 1>volatility tolerance was the wrong word. That was just me

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<v Speaker 1>projecting my uptight Canadian self on to Braddock. But Braddock

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<v Speaker 1>is from the musical side of the United States, where

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<v Speaker 1>emotion is not something to be endured, it's something to

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<v Speaker 1>be embraced. At one point, when cell phones were still analog,

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<v Speaker 1>you could buy a scanner and listen in to other

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<v Speaker 1>people's conversations, and that's what Braddock does. He can't help himself.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman complains to her husband for an hour about

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<v Speaker 1>his lack of affection from the parking out at the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store. Then ask him what he wants, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Apple Newton's. And then this is my favorite part

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quoting now from Braddock's memoir. The conversation that truly

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<v Speaker 1>touched me was between a man perhaps forty and his mother,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe late sixties, in which the sun opened up about

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<v Speaker 1>sexual problems he was having with his wife. And I

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<v Speaker 1>envied the sprinkling of profanities and the mother's invitation to

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<v Speaker 1>come over to the house, son, and let's open a

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<v Speaker 1>bottle of whiskey and talk about it. Wishing I had

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of easy and open communication with my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Then learning that the guy's mother was terminally ill with cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're keeping track, that's marital difficulty, sex, profanity, whisky mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and terminal cancer in one conversation, and it truly touched him.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what Braddot's favorite song is? Vince Gills

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<v Speaker 1>Go Rest High on that Mountain, which Gil wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>memory both of his brother who died young of a

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<v Speaker 1>heart attack and fellow country star Keith Whitley, who drank

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<v Speaker 1>himself to death.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh on, and son, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Corner is dn go dude, Oh my god. When Vince

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<v Speaker 2>Gill and Ricky Skaggs and Painty Lovelace are singing harmony

0:28:38.396 --> 0:28:41.276
<v Speaker 2>on that thing, I go nuts. It still tears me up,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that it's about death, and Vince wrote it about

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<v Speaker 2>Keith Whitley and then about his own brother, and just

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<v Speaker 2>the emotion that sending that song. It's just it's just powerful.

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<v Speaker 8>Day you lift us.

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<v Speaker 1>Gathered round.

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<v Speaker 8>You agreed to.

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<v Speaker 10>Shock good seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's heartbreaking. Listening to that song makes me wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>some portion of what we call ideological division in America

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<v Speaker 1>actually isn't ideological at all. How big are the political

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<v Speaker 1>differences between red and blue states anyway, in the grand

0:29:29.916 --> 0:29:33.236
<v Speaker 1>scheme of things, not that big. Maybe what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>instead is a difference of emotional opinion. Because if your

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<v Speaker 1>principal form of cultural expression has drinking, sex, suicide, heart attacks,

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<v Speaker 1>mom and terminal cancer all on the table for public discussion,

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<v Speaker 1>then the other half of the country is going to

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<v Speaker 1>seem really chilly and uncaring. And if you're from the

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll half clinging semi ironically to two Dy

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<v Speaker 1>Fruity O Rudy, when you listen to a song written

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<v Speaker 1>about a guy's brother who died young of a heart

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<v Speaker 1>attack and another guy who drank himself to death, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to think, who are these people? Here's another way

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<v Speaker 1>to think about the sad song line. Let me read

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<v Speaker 1>you the list of the birthplaces of the performers of

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<v Speaker 1>the top twenty country songs of all time Again. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to use the Rolling Stone magazine list. Ready, Arkansas, Virginia, Alabama, Texas, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi Georgia, California, Central Valley, by the way, not Los Angeles, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Texas, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, Texas, Kentucky, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do the top fifty, or the top one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>or the top two hundred, and you get the same pattern. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot be a successful country singer or songwriter if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not from the South. It's impossible. There's one exception,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the great songwriter Harlan Howard, who was born

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit, but almost immediately thereafter his family moves to

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<v Speaker 1>a farm in rural Kentucky. It's like the five to

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<v Speaker 1>second roll when you drop a piece of food on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. If it's not on the ground long enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't count. As far as I can tell, there

0:31:14.036 --> 0:31:17.116
<v Speaker 1>are no Jews on the country list, almost no Catholics,

0:31:17.596 --> 0:31:21.956
<v Speaker 1>only two black people. It's white Southern Protestants all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down. Now compare that to the rock and roll list.

0:31:27.956 --> 0:31:32.076
<v Speaker 1>You've got Jews from Minnesota, black people from Detroit, Catholics

0:31:32.116 --> 0:31:37.236
<v Speaker 1>from New Jersey, middle class British art school dropouts, Canadians, Jamaicans.

0:31:38.156 --> 0:31:42.796
<v Speaker 1>Rock and roll is the Rainbow Coalition that diversity is

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. It's why there's so much innovation in

0:31:45.796 --> 0:31:47.916
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll, but you pay a price for that.

0:31:51.796 --> 0:31:54.436
<v Speaker 1>There was a very clever bit of research published recently

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<v Speaker 1>by Colin Morrison the magazine The Pudding. He analyzed fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand popular songs using an algorithm that can presses digital files.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you take out the repetitive bits in a song,

0:32:07.036 --> 0:32:10.596
<v Speaker 1>how much of it is left. Morris's big finding is

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<v Speaker 1>that rock and roll as a genre is really, really repetitive.

0:32:15.356 --> 0:32:19.316
<v Speaker 1>Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, the Beatles, If you take out

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<v Speaker 1>the duplicative parts, their music shrinks by sixty percent. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when everyone is from somewhere different. Nobody speaks

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<v Speaker 1>the same language, so you have to use cliche, the

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<v Speaker 1>same phrases over and over again, because if you go

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<v Speaker 1>deeper or try to get more specific, you start to

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<v Speaker 1>lose people. Country music, on the other hand, is not

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<v Speaker 1>nearly as repetitive. When Morris ran the lyrics of popular

0:32:46.956 --> 0:32:50.076
<v Speaker 1>country singers through his algorithm, they only shrank by about

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<v Speaker 1>forty percent, a third less than the rock and rollers.

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<v Speaker 1>Nor is hip hop repetitive, which makes sense. The birthplaces

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<v Speaker 1>of everyone on Rolling Stones list of greatest rap songs

0:33:01.116 --> 0:33:04.356
<v Speaker 1>reads like an urban version of the country list. Queen's

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<v Speaker 1>South Central lal A Brooklyn, Long Island, South Central Long Beach,

0:33:08.476 --> 0:33:12.716
<v Speaker 1>Houston means the Bronx Englewood, New Jersey. The Bronx. Hip

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<v Speaker 1>Hop and country are both tightly knit musical communities. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you're speaking to people who understand your world and

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<v Speaker 1>your culture and your language, you can tell much more

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<v Speaker 1>complicated stories. You can use much more precise imagery. You

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<v Speaker 1>can lay yourself bare because you're among your own. In

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<v Speaker 1>the book, it sounds like your relationship with Sparky was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that seemed the most creatively fruitful. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was Sparky was a beautiful blonde from northern Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>the great love of Bobby Braddock's life.

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<v Speaker 9>Why was that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think because my favorite her are so strong. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>is it's sort of a visceral thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think That's why I found Bobby Braddock's book so

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<v Speaker 1>exhaust It's because everything is felt, everything is a mountain

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<v Speaker 1>peak and Sparky, Sparky was everest high altitude infatuation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sort of thing that made people go absolutely crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and that was the case with her. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what gets the animal instinct of people maybe who

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<v Speaker 2>haven't evolved as much as they should, and cause them

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and get a gun, blow somebody's brains

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<v Speaker 2>out over some gun not being a can't stand the

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<v Speaker 2>thought or someone you know, having sex with a person

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<v Speaker 2>that he loves.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddick and Sparky were on and off lovers for years.

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<v Speaker 1>It was intense, painful, euphoric. When it ended, Braddick was

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<v Speaker 1>in pieces.

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<v Speaker 8>He kept her picture on the wall wind half crazy

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<v Speaker 8>now in.

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<v Speaker 1>The that's Braddick in the original demo he made of

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<v Speaker 1>he stopped loving her today.

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<v Speaker 8>He still loved her through it all, hoping she'd come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure where it came from. It may have

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<v Speaker 2>come from Sparky, you know, honestly not know it would

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting.

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<v Speaker 12>How could it not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if I think it probably, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>probably did. But I just I can't see it. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see that for certainty to.

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<v Speaker 8>Marvell carry him.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like Bradick shrink at that moment, listening to

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<v Speaker 1>his tangled dreams and then wanting to shake him at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the session. It's Sparky Sparky.

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<v Speaker 8>They found some letters by He's a being.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you wrote a song in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the great defining love affair of your life, the relationship ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and you write write a song about the heartbreak of

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<v Speaker 1>that a man carries to his grave. I mean, could

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<v Speaker 1>could it be more clear?

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<v Speaker 8>I went to see him one last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddick wrote he stopped loving her today with his

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<v Speaker 1>friend Curly. In nineteen seventy seven, they took it to

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<v Speaker 1>the singer George Jones. Jones was then at his lowest

0:36:27.356 --> 0:36:30.876
<v Speaker 1>ebb a wreck, strung out on cocaine and whiskey. He

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<v Speaker 1>just checked out of a psychiatric hospital. The great love

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<v Speaker 1>of his life, Tammy Wynette, had embodied her hit song

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<v Speaker 1>div O RCEE and left him. Jones had just nearly

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<v Speaker 1>shot and killed one of his best friends. The heartbroken

0:36:45.676 --> 0:36:48.276
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock has written a song about a man who

0:36:48.316 --> 0:36:51.076
<v Speaker 1>cannot stop loving a woman, and it's sung by the

0:36:51.196 --> 0:36:56.276
<v Speaker 1>heartbroken George Jones. Who cannot stop loving a woman, Get

0:36:56.316 --> 0:36:56.596
<v Speaker 1>him some.

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<v Speaker 8>Letters byes Babe.

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<v Speaker 3>D.

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<v Speaker 10>In nineteen sixty two.

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<v Speaker 8>He had underlined and m.

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<v Speaker 1>Underlined in red every single I love you, every single

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<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 10>I went to see him just today. Oh but I

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<v Speaker 10>didn't see no tears, all dressed up to go away.

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<v Speaker 10>First time I've seen him smiling.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did he finally turn his back on his great love?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this the first time he smiled in years?

0:37:52.716 --> 0:37:55.636
<v Speaker 1>Because he's dead. Only death could end his love.

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<v Speaker 7>It blazed red upon his dog.

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<v Speaker 8>And sing, They'll carry.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 8>Stopped loving hard today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally over the top, Madelin sentimental Kitchie, call it

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want, just don't fight it. One thing that

0:38:22.876 --> 0:38:25.716
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock told me in passing that I think about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot is that he thought of the character in

0:38:28.276 --> 0:38:31.476
<v Speaker 1>his song as a bad role model. The man was obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't let go. But that's the point, right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why we cry, because the song manages to find beauty

0:38:39.956 --> 0:38:43.156
<v Speaker 1>and even a little bit of grandeur in someone's frailty.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm sol carried.

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<v Speaker 8>He stopped loving hard today.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild horses, please.

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<v Speaker 9>Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Grand

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<v Speaker 9>Ole Opry House to the celebration of life of George

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<v Speaker 9>Glenn Jones. One of the most important people ever of

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<v Speaker 9>all time and of any time in the history of

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<v Speaker 9>country music.

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<v Speaker 1>George Jones died in twenty thirteen. Everyone who was anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in country music came to his memorial service. You should

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<v Speaker 1>watch it if you get the chance. It's on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>all two hours and forty one minutes of it, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's everything I've been talking about. Vince Gill stands up

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<v Speaker 1>with Patty Lovelace and sings, go rest high in that

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain and breaks down halfway through. Travis Tritt remembers a

0:40:06.636 --> 0:40:10.036
<v Speaker 1>conversation he once had with Chris Christofferson about how they

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<v Speaker 1>expected George Jones to have died years before.

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<v Speaker 15>And I looked at Chris and I made the comment,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, with all the years of hard living that

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<v Speaker 15>George had, who would have ever thought that he would

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<v Speaker 15>outlive Tammy. And Chris looked at me and said, had

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<v Speaker 15>it not been for Nancy, he would not have.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Jones, George Jones's fourth and final wife, the real

0:40:47.356 --> 0:40:51.716
<v Speaker 1>love of his life, his soulmate and companion. Travis Tritt

0:40:51.956 --> 0:40:55.036
<v Speaker 1>holds out his hand towards Nancy, who's sitting right in

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<v Speaker 1>the front row.

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<v Speaker 15>George said it many times. She's my angel, and she

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<v Speaker 15>saved my life, and so we owe you a debt

0:41:03.916 --> 0:41:05.156
<v Speaker 15>of gratitude.

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<v Speaker 5>For that.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes the crowning moment of the day, the final performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Jackson strides out onto the stage a big rangy

0:41:16.676 --> 0:41:21.436
<v Speaker 1>guy craggy features cowboy boots, jeans, long coat, white statson.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks squarely at Nancy Jones and without introduction, launches

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<v Speaker 1>into he stopped loving her today.

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<v Speaker 7>He shout, all love you till I die. She told

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<v Speaker 7>em you are yet time as he years when clool.

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<v Speaker 1>And you realize as he sings that Braddock's song has

0:41:52.396 --> 0:41:56.396
<v Speaker 1>gotten even more specific. It's no longer about a long

0:41:56.436 --> 0:42:00.596
<v Speaker 1>ago love affair. It's about right now. This is the

0:42:00.676 --> 0:42:08.036
<v Speaker 1>day George Jones stopped loving Nancy Jones. Alan Jackson takes

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<v Speaker 1>off his hat and play says it over his heart.

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<v Speaker 7>He stopped loving her.

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<v Speaker 12>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you aren't crying, I can't help you.

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<v Speaker 9>I love you, George. All of the three grades of

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<v Speaker 9>our time, ladies and gentlemen at all time. That's Alan Jackson,

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Revision's History is produced by Emil LaBelle and Jacob Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>with Camille Baptista, Stephanie Daniel, and Ciomara Martinez White. Our

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<v Speaker 1>editor is Julia Barton. Lawn Williams is our engineer. Original

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<v Speaker 1>music by Luis Sciarra. Special thanks to Andy Bauers and

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Weisberger Panicle. I'm Malcolm gadwe