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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty three,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of Good Daily, My Guys Today production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: This Well, this is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Monday,

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Speaker 1: April seventeenth, twenty twenty three. Don't know what that is?

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Speaker 2: Me?

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Speaker 1: Don't ask you know who knows? When they don't even

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Speaker 1: get me? Sorry, don't even get me a sit Monday,

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Speaker 1: Glen I right, yeah, somebody's got a case on the Monday.

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Speaker 1: My name's Jack O'Brien aka somebody once told me it's

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Speaker 1: all the cold gast study. You take the guns, the

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Speaker 1: there's less holes in heads. That's courtesy alc a Roni.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my.

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Speaker 3: Co host mister Miles Gras Miles Gray aka what would

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Speaker 3: you do IF's I baby at home crying on the

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Speaker 3: loan on the bedroom floor.

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Speaker 4: Because he wants beats and the only way to feed

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Speaker 4: him is the fuck like DM with a little bit

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Speaker 4: of mustard. Her Majesty's at work. Maybe sing some park

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Speaker 4: now or some hits from side Town. Gotta wom my

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Speaker 4: voice now, So for you, this is just a good time.

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Speaker 4: But for me, it's the Daily's Eye.

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Speaker 1: Guys. Okay, shout out Locaroni on that one too. Locaroni

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Speaker 1: did two, Got this with two A twofer for the

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Speaker 1: a K's shout out for the cycle. Yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Miles, we are through it to be

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Speaker 1: joined by a very funny comedian actor whose Netflix special

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Speaker 1: Beer Dos Landing is apt. Now he's got four of those,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we're he got him. He's wearing the

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Speaker 1: four rings. Yeah, the four Netflix special Like, uh, Steph Curry,

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Speaker 1: please welcome Beer Doe.

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Speaker 5: What's up? Guys. Wouldn't it be great if I had

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Speaker 5: like a long Hindi song about me and like nobody

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Speaker 5: understood it, also known as they spent five minutes singing

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Speaker 5: in Hindi.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have loved it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it would have piqued my interest, just like

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Speaker 3: in that one bit and Landing where you talked about

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Speaker 3: how the differ between American sex and how you have

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Speaker 3: sex and you're like, I'm not going to translate that,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, I wish I had the translation

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Speaker 3: of what you were saying in that bit, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll leave that to my imagination.

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Speaker 5: Well, I can give it to you. It's basically, every

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Speaker 5: time I'm done having sex, I'm like, make God bless

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Speaker 5: you and to hope you come back. If you did

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Speaker 5: anything wrong, please forgive me.

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Speaker 3: That's basically okay, yeah, because the beginning is juxtaposing.

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Speaker 1: Americans are like.

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Speaker 3: Almost I'm going about to clap those cheeks, you know,

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Speaker 3: speaking indeed, very.

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Speaker 1: Very deferent.

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Speaker 5: I've never clapped cheks, by the way, I've never clapped

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Speaker 5: anybody's cheeks. This is not in my skill set.

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Speaker 1: Just a golf maybe like golf clap of cheeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I always feel like apologizing, but it's good to

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Speaker 1: like hear just like a really deferential like thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank God, thank you every everyone, what has just happened?

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Speaker 1: That that is definitely more in line with my energy.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with this isn't.

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Speaker 5: A nice just lie naked next to a woman and

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Speaker 5: be like, can we acknowledge that this is a blessing

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Speaker 5: right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think that's that's it's a good sexual and you.

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Speaker 3: And and and it was good for you, right, Okay, good,

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Speaker 3: that's a blessing too, that everything's a blessing right now?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? So much. No pressure, no pressure, no pressure,

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Speaker 1: no pressure. All right, we are going to get to

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment via. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about. We're going to talk about GOP

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Speaker 1: donors being worried about that old abortion boomerang and and

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Speaker 1: their plan, which seems to be pray for a distraction,

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Speaker 1: pray for something terrible to happen that they can run

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Speaker 1: on because this ain't it. We'll talk about the woke alerts,

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Speaker 1: which is a new conservative strategy that we're seeing with

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Speaker 1: this like bud light ship, but it's basically to sleeping

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Speaker 1: giants the mainstream media into being right wing, like being hateful.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, well timber alert, like a child abduction

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Speaker 3: notice that you get on your phone, except for like

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Speaker 3: this company alert.

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Speaker 1: They're into equality. Oh yeah, okay, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I am not I would not be surprised to see

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Speaker 1: it work, because corporations not the bravest entities in the world.

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Speaker 1: You'll be surprised to learn. We're gonna talk about this

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Speaker 1: policy that I was not aware of that states that

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Speaker 1: when a gun is seized by the police, like for instance,

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Speaker 1: the gun that was used in Monday's mass shooting in Louisville.

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Speaker 1: They have to get that right back out on the streets.

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Speaker 1: There's like a law that says, got to get that

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Speaker 1: out there. We can't hold onto this. It's hot. It's

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Speaker 1: a hot item. We gotta make sure that people have

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Speaker 1: this gunback so they're already By the time you hear this,

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Speaker 1: it will have already been sold at auction to a

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Speaker 1: licensed dealer, with twenty percent going to the police department

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Speaker 1: and the rest going to the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Office of I don't know. That just did something

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Speaker 1: to my imagination where I was like, Yo, what is

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Speaker 1: it like in the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 3: I think it just be like suspicious of every brown person,

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Speaker 3: every brown enters the state.

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Speaker 1: Have what's this guy? Who's this guy? Who's this guy?

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Speaker 5: Kentucky Homeland Guys, I'm in Kentucky next week, are you glovo.

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Speaker 1: Good? I was gonna say, I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: on there watch list. So we're gonna we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about that plenty more. But first Verer we like to

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Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history.

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Speaker 5: Two things. I'm actively looking for this sort of jet

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Speaker 5: lag remedies because I've been in uh in like ten

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Speaker 5: cities and ten different time zones in the last fifteen days.

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Speaker 5: So I'm always like up to this thing on any

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Speaker 5: new jet lag remedy and the number one thing that

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Speaker 5: I've found and I can't believe that I haven't tried

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Speaker 5: it in so long. Remember the movie die Hard, Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: where Bruce Willis is like your toes. Yeah, So if

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Speaker 5: you do that on the carpet, and now if you

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Speaker 5: google jetlag remedies, that's one of the top things that

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Speaker 5: comes up. So I've tried melotonein, I've tried hydration, I

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Speaker 5: tried hitting the gym, and I think for the first

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Speaker 5: time in my life, at age forty three, I tried

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Speaker 5: the fucking carpet thing and it works. It clears your head.

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Speaker 5: It's clearly like some ACU pressure ship that's going on.

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Speaker 5: But you know, well done, Bruce Willis and this old

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Speaker 5: ass movie Wait, so.

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Speaker 3: About how like so how long is your your your

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Speaker 3: bear toe gripping on carpet session to begin to feel

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Speaker 3: the effects, like how many how much work you have

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Speaker 5: I did like thirty seconds or forty five seconds. But

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Speaker 5: there's a you know, when you're when you're jetlag, there's

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Speaker 5: just like a mental haze around you. You're not any

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Speaker 5: really anywhere, you're not present, right, and it just kind

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Speaker 5: of clears the haze up. Wow, and then you can

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Speaker 5: decide if you like where you're at, if not, just

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Speaker 5: go back into the haze.

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Speaker 1: I found it useful. Have you tried drinking caffeine until

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Speaker 1: you hate yourself?

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Speaker 5: Because that's oh, but that's that's every day, that's any time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, until you think everybody's talking about you.

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Speaker 1: That's that's something that i've that's interesting. The fist with

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Speaker 1: your toes has been something I think I've tried. It

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Speaker 1: was that even what it was supposed to cure in Diehard,

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Speaker 1: was it jet lag?

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Speaker 5: I think it was. It was like get lag, and

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Speaker 5: then you you're supposed to kind of cull your toes

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Speaker 5: and rub them against the carpet again and again, which

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Speaker 5: you know, if you're there's nothing like shitty hotel carpeting.

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Speaker 5: You don't know if you're doting the coppet of the

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Speaker 1: You when you do, and you know the movie told

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Speaker 1: us what our reaction was going to be because Bruce

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Speaker 1: Willis wasn't buying that ship. And then he does it,

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Speaker 1: and then he goes fucking a fist with your toes. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Also a movie, by the way, with the cheapest costume

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Speaker 5: budget in the history of movies. I think he had

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Speaker 5: no shres, had one pair of pants and a fucking

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Speaker 5: vest on, like a wife pinto you call it a wife, beto,

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Speaker 5: which is your only.

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Speaker 3: No, we've yeah, we're as a country, we're moving, or

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Speaker 3: at least we're trying to move back. We're just calling

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Speaker 3: those white under tank tops than.

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Speaker 1: The old w B Yeah, which, by the way, sounds

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Speaker 1: like you were trying to come up with a name

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Speaker 1: as you were saying it. White under tank top top. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tank top. That's just four different words combined together. But yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: But then they they had to save money on budget

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Speaker 1: to put it all into some of the great blood work.

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Speaker 1: You know those squibs shoot like exploding in that guy's legs.

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Speaker 1: That blew my mind that that was a movie I

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Speaker 1: saw that when I was eight and you wanted to

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Speaker 1: be smoking a cigarette and just being real cynical about everything.

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Speaker 3: Shaved in a receding hairline, a little bit like exactly

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Speaker 3: like my boy John McClean.

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Speaker 1: Every every girlfriend I got, I was, I thought we

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Speaker 5: It's a movie that made you want to smoke. Ironically,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to promote smoking, but it's one of

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Speaker 5: those where you were like because I smoked for a

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Speaker 5: long time for fifteen meals. Yeah, and like I remember

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Speaker 5: that movie, and there was another movie called longst Good Night. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: oh yes, We're just everybody smoked in every frame of movie,

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Speaker 5: and it was impossible to watch it without smoking.

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Speaker 3: I just remember there's that one scene or like we're

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Speaker 3: just gonna aim and spray, and like when they got

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Speaker 3: to get out of that hotel and like they fuck,

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Speaker 3: I'm just like.

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Speaker 5: Fucking run for your life.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you told me the entire noir film

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Speaker 1: that nothing looks more beautiful than cigarette smoking in noir films.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, even like The Broken Arrow, John Travolta's

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Speaker 3: character smokes a cigarette in a really unique way, and

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Speaker 3: that even like he liked.

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Speaker 1: He put in his mouth.

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Speaker 3: He yeah, and like really wrap his fingers around. And

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, I'm smoking my grandma's cigarette

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Speaker 5: Like it's right, the hand closing like scientology around an

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Speaker 5: innocent person. Yeah, it's just kind of slowly eightening their

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Speaker 5: grip until reality is.

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Speaker 1: Gone with every subsequent e reading they do. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: French inhale that I think it's is it Delroy Lindo

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Speaker 1: who does the French in haal in Dead Presidents? Like that?

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Speaker 1: Now that you're mentioning it, it's like smoking in movies

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Speaker 1: is like some of the most influential shit of my

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Speaker 1: childhood is just like seeing that and being like that's

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Speaker 1: how I'm going to smoke. Oh no, that's how I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna right right exactly. So it's probably good that we

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Speaker 1: don't do it anymore, but a glorious time. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: is something that you think is overrated?

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Speaker 5: Ice bots? I'm just gonna say it, like, because I'm

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Speaker 5: in Austin right now. Every comedian doesn't need to do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to tell that story, Miles? I

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Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't need to debase myself

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Speaker 5: If you believe the Internet, America's become a little like pity.

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Speaker 1: The drunken like soccer fan brawl or discipline of martial arts.

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Speaker 1: Right right? Like, yeah, that would be offensive if it

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Speaker 5: It's like life's good, things will be all right, shit

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Speaker 3: Wa wait, so what is the what is like the

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Speaker 5: It's show file Firefire. No, it's it's uh And now

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Speaker 1: That's kind of cool. It's also good marketing because the

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Speaker 5: Favoritthing to do back when there were no cell phones.

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Speaker 1: we're back. And so there's some reporting going around about

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Speaker 3: Fuck you up, man, when do you think the chances

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Speaker 5: Like what, by the way, you know what's going to

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Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's really I think that's why you're

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Speaker 5: But I feel like you guys are hard on yourselves.

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Speaker 3: Potentially it would be the it would be the presidential

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Speaker 5: Still and knows that it's twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: And this man is as charismatic as Trump.

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Speaker 1: No he's he's not. So he is. We've been talking

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Speaker 1: And it's just like twenty sixteen all over again, or

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, I guess the Republican primaries where it's just like,

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Speaker 1: oh wait, nobody wants to vote for this motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: Right, But then that's the test that Republicans had, right,

438
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Speaker 5: because if you're a Republican now you're really being asked

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Speaker 5: the question you'll vote is it based on actual ideology

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Speaker 5: or just on fandom, you know, because maybe you voted

441
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Speaker 5: for Trump for fandom, but now if Rond de Santis

442
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Speaker 5: comes in, like that's the actual test of how much

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Speaker 5: you believe in your ideology.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but unfortunately, like it's gonna it's basically like Marvel,

445
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Speaker 3: like the MCU. Now it's all about fandoms. There's nothing

446
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Speaker 3: about policy. It's like, oh, this guy's kind of like

447
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: Fanos almost, but like and he's gonna own the Libs

448
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Speaker 3: with how powerful and like, you know, how regressive he is.

449
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Speaker 3: But yeah, like with Rond DeSantis, he's really trying to

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Speaker 3: differentiate himself by trying to run to the right of

451
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, which is what worries some of these donors

452
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Speaker 3: because Ronda Santis has been very enthusiastic about how he's

453
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Speaker 3: just gonna just completely knee cap abortion in Florida. The

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Speaker 3: state legislature they just passed a bill that would ban

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Speaker 3: abortion after six six weeks, when most people don't even

456
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Speaker 3: know they're pregnant. And DeSantis is like, I'm signing that shit. Okay,

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Speaker 3: watch this because I'm actually about overturning Roe v.

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Speaker 1: Wade.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And again he's trying to court this very hyper

460
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Speaker 3: conservative audience. Going into the primary. But a lot of

461
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Speaker 3: people who are just onlookers are just sort of saying

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Speaker 3: this like abortion thing with conservatives. It is one of

463
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Speaker 3: the most consistently losing messages in recent memory. Like it's

464
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Speaker 3: it's been lost after loss with these candidates who like

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Speaker 3: evoke their like I'm anti choice, and most people with

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Speaker 3: you know, value body autonomy or like yeah, no that

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna move on from that, which is.

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Speaker 1: Most people like that. Most people do value the body autonomy,

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Speaker 1: and that's why it's such a political loser.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even think it's you know, sometimes when

471
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Speaker 5: i'm when I see regressive policies just sort of worldwide.

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Speaker 5: You know, something I tell myself is everybody who's upset

473
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Speaker 5: at you is going to be dead in ten years.

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Speaker 5: Whenever I'm in trouble, right right, I feel like, you know,

475
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Speaker 5: like on your last day of work, that's when you

476
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Speaker 5: take a shit in your boss's office and walk up, right.

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Speaker 5: Of course, I feel for this generation of politicians and leaders,

478
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Speaker 5: they've just figured this is their last day at work.

479
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, you know, in the boss, except they are

480
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Speaker 5: the boss and they're taking a ship in each of

481
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Speaker 5: our cubicles as they go, they're not going to be

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Speaker 5: around the right right.

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Speaker 1: That's an important part.

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Speaker 3: And like, meanwhile, too, this is kind of like Republicans

485
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Speaker 3: across the country are really doubling down on the abortion

486
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Speaker 3: issue with like the worst possible takes. Like last week

487
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Speaker 3: we brought up Tim Scott, who's running for president. He

488
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Speaker 3: evoked like he's been evoking replacement theory as a reason

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Speaker 3: to end abortion, which is something we've also seen in Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: We also got another really healthy helping of the racist,

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Speaker 3: anti semitic trope from state Senator Steve Erdman, who looks

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Speaker 3: like the kind of guy that has never spoken to

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Speaker 3: a woman outside of giving a directive. But I just

494
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Speaker 3: want to say, like, we'll just play his his fear

495
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Speaker 3: mongering around. This is this is the problem when we

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Speaker 3: give people body autonomy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have killed two thousand babies since abortion

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Speaker 2: became legal.

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Speaker 3: Just so you know, he means two hundred thousand. He

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Speaker 3: meant to edit that, but he's gonna keep saying two

501
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Speaker 3: thousand because he doesn't. He doesn't even have this monologue memorized.

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Speaker 2: Okay, those are two thousand people in the state of

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Speaker 2: Nebraska that could be working and filling some of those

504
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Speaker 2: positions and we have vacancies, they're not here. Instead, our

505
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Speaker 2: state population has not grown except by those foreigners who

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Speaker 2: have moved here or refugees have been placed here.

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Speaker 1: Why is that.

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Speaker 2: It's because we've killed two hundred thousand people. These are

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Speaker 2: people we've killed.

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Speaker 3: So there's that's that's phase one of that take of

511
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Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, so you know, I hate to

512
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Speaker 3: say it, but it's these brown people that are moving

513
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Speaker 3: in that are replacing the little white babies that I'm

514
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Speaker 3: talking about in Nebraska. But again, he's just he's relying

515
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Speaker 3: on this very racist trope that we've seen from Charlottesville

516
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Speaker 3: and many other places when you hear like they will

517
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Speaker 3: not replace us type of shit.

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Speaker 5: Is that what you think the abortion thing is driven by,

519
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Speaker 5: is that we need to have enough of a white

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Speaker 5: population going out there. Is that what you think it is?

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the things they're trying. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, like that that's one of the arguments they're

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Speaker 1: testing out. I think a lot of it is about

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Speaker 1: wanting to control women and not like having a patriarchal

525
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Speaker 1: society that is like down to bodily autonomy. But it

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Speaker 1: is it is something that like very wealthy industrialists like

527
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Speaker 1: talk about in private about this idea of like are

528
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Speaker 1: there enough babies? And are there enough white babies? And

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Speaker 1: what does that mean to the racial makeup of the country?

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Speaker 5: So or is there enough revenue for this big industry

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Speaker 5: that is babies, right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Do we have enough customers in general?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But yeah, it is. It's something too.

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Speaker 3: That again, what by evoking or invoking the replacement theory

536
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Speaker 3: you the ears up of like ethno nationalists, white supremacists,

537
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Speaker 3: and also evangelicals who are like, oh yeah, good abortion

538
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Speaker 3: and yes, more white people. I like that too because

539
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Speaker 3: I fear a brown America And so yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 3: one take. His colleague John Lowe decided he was going

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Speaker 3: to use for his rhetorical attack. He was going to

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Speaker 3: read from a spooky book of ghost stories to really

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Speaker 3: bring the point home about how abortion is just so

544
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Speaker 3: very bad. Here's him again, Be careful is a very

545
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Speaker 3: spooky ghost story he's about to tell.

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Speaker 7: With a brand new baby in a womb, marrying her

547
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Speaker 7: new baby in her womb, she approaches Elizabeth and John

548
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Speaker 7: is in Elizabeth's womb, and the Holy Spirit is communicated

549
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Speaker 7: in some miraculous, incredible way. From the womb of the

550
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Speaker 7: Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ himself to the womb of Elizabeth,

551
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Speaker 7: John the Baptist and John leapt And that is why

552
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Speaker 7: abortion is clearly evil.

553
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Speaker 1: Boom laugh track. They're laughing, yo.

554
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Speaker 7: And that is why abortion is clearly evil.

555
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Speaker 5: Take you to peat it?

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you needed another bite of that punchline.

557
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he said that is wow. I mean, see

558
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Speaker 1: somebody behind him the camera like it's it's worth looking

559
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: at because there's somebody behind him, Like I don't know

560
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: if they're from the media, but they just like when

561
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Speaker 1: they realize what he's doing, they just like face Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like when he's like, wait, hold on, what

563
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: he's like texting his wife, He's like, you're not gonna

564
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: leave what this fucking guy just said?

565
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have paved somebody five thousand dollars to

566
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Speaker 5: just scream Jesus is brown.

567
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Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah exactly. Are you sure about that?

568
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Speaker 1: Are you sure you want to make sure about that's?

569
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Speaker 1: Want to tell no seriously? And again I mean, but hey,

570
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: you hear that. Libs.

571
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Speaker 3: Two ladies touched bellies and the one lady's ghost baby

572
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Speaker 3: made the other baby move. So check made assholes. Abortion

573
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Speaker 3: is evil, Like, huh, really.

574
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Speaker 5: Think about your ideological battle in America that I find

575
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Speaker 5: hilarious as a liberal my sure, right and somebody who's

576
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 5: quite left it. Why would you have so much loathing

577
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: for people who already have so much self loathing like this,

578
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: nobody hates on themselves more than the average liberal. You know,

579
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 5: we're just like a part of anxiety and self loading,

580
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: Like we're hating ourselves enough for all of you.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to do it, No, truly, it's it's

582
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Speaker 3: I mean again, this is like, this is this is

583
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Speaker 3: your brain on anti choice rhetoric, folks, you know the

584
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: people you know, the like left to make a compelling

585
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: case in some of these state houses have the charisma

586
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Speaker 3: of an evil high school principle from an eighties movie.

587
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Speaker 3: And I think while most people are thinking, why the

588
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: fuck are they doing this when it's clear they've been

589
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: losing election after election and like once were they thought

590
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Speaker 3: they were going to change this like State Supreme Court Wisconsin,

591
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Speaker 3: like over this issue, Like, we have to realize that

592
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: people are getting right now in primary mode and they

593
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: just want to make their case to the base first,

594
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Speaker 3: even if it alienates I don't know, seventy percent of

595
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Speaker 3: the country when they hear it. And the overall strategy,

596
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Speaker 3: especially in Rohnda Santis's case, as this one political science

597
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: professor Jack Bitney puts it, is he is betting on disaster.

598
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Speaker 3: That is really what's going on too. Like the reason

599
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Speaker 3: they're they're still stoking this fire is because they are

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Speaker 3: hoping for some kind of terrible recession or foreign policy

601
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Speaker 3: blunder disaster to help swing the focus off of the

602
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Speaker 3: you know, you know, regression or the restricting of body

603
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Speaker 3: a tanimir you know, our own reproductive rights.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's do you also feel like maybe you know,

605
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Speaker 5: you need some fire to stoke, right at the end

606
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Speaker 5: of the day in a in a politically charged year,

607
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Speaker 5: and maybe the problem or the development of America as

608
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Speaker 5: you look at it, is that you're not able to

609
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Speaker 5: stoke a religious file for whatever reason, because because you've

610
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 5: kind of moved beyond that right and in many countries

611
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Speaker 5: in the world, that's the basis of an election is

612
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Speaker 5: basic religious polarization. This religion against that religion, right, and

613
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 5: you don't get to do that anymore. So really all

614
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 5: you have is abortion and guns, which kind of feels

615
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Speaker 5: similar to religions right in modern America.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a fantastic point.

617
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean the way that we do, like

618
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: look at it quite literally probably worship gun culture and

619
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Speaker 3: things like that. It is the way and the way

620
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Speaker 3: it's evoked too. You know, like people even say that,

621
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Speaker 3: you know, Jesus even is sanctioning weapons. I don't know

622
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Speaker 3: if you know this in a very charitable interpretation for

623
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Speaker 3: their own means. But again, like even when they think

624
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Speaker 3: of like let's hope there's COVID twenty three or something

625
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: that is going to completely change the conversation. I mean,

626
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Speaker 3: you know, abortion is a fundamental right and so one

627
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: that probably becomes even more important if there's economic uncertainty.

628
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: Like even if praying for a recession, I think people

629
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Speaker 3: even be more concerned with, Oh, if with my financial

630
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: outlook being a certain way, it's probably even more important

631
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Speaker 3: to me to be able to decide when I'm having

632
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Speaker 3: a family or I don't think people are like or

633
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: the idea that you know, if they have this take

634
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: of like Joe Biden is gonna make America look weak

635
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: to our enemies. I don't think suddenly your concerns about

636
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Speaker 3: body autonomy go out the window. So it's a very

637
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Speaker 3: It's just it's just this weird issue that they's they

638
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: keep holding on to. But it makes more sense if

639
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Speaker 3: you consider that. It's like I think they're just hoping

640
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Speaker 3: another issue comes up because they don't they'd rather make

641
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Speaker 3: an election be like, look at how bad Joe Biden

642
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: messed up the economy than them having to defend here's

643
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Speaker 3: why we believe you shouldn't have any reproductive rights.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do get nervous every time the

645
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Speaker 1: Republicans are banking on a disaster because they have a

646
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Speaker 1: way of like, you know, the story of Nixon and

647
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Speaker 1: Kissinger prolong the Vietnam War, Like they Nixon was running

648
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Speaker 1: for president against Johnson's vice president. Johnson was about to

649
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Speaker 1: like have a peace treaty, and they actively like went

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Speaker 1: to Vietnam and sabotaged the peace treaty more like it's

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Speaker 1: actually not gonna be a good deal. We'll get you

652
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Speaker 1: a better deal and we're gonna win. Like is one

653
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Speaker 1: of the most profound acts of evil that I feel

654
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Speaker 1: like probably got a little memory hold because it didn't

655
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Speaker 1: come out until like decades after. I think it was

656
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Speaker 1: like the sort of shit that like people at the

657
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Speaker 1: time were like Nixon, so evil who probably did that,

658
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Speaker 1: but like he did do that, he did that shit, right,

659
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Speaker 1: But like they they will sabotage, They will cause the

660
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Speaker 1: death of tens of thousands of Americans in order to

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Speaker 1: get power. So anytime the Republicans are like betting on disaster,

662
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Speaker 1: I'm always a little bit worried, especially when it ties

663
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Speaker 1: to the economy, which is a complex system driven by Republicans,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of rich people who are Republicans that like.

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Speaker 3: And they could be the arkanact of in default too,

666
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Speaker 3: you know what I meantruction.

667
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Speaker 5: I think also if you consider that especially elections, like

668
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Speaker 5: I have a friend who's a politician, and he says,

669
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Speaker 5: you know, the big mistake that people make is you

670
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 5: think that people take a long time to make a

671
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Speaker 5: decision about who they vote for. But if you're a politician,

672
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: you understand that you have twenty seconds of a person's time.

673
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: It's a twenty second decision, and that any sort of

674
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Speaker 5: big election issue that really warrants introspection is a complex,

675
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 5: nuanced issue. Right, So what did Biden do to the economy, etcetera, etcetera.

676
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 5: You got to go into that. But the reason they

677
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: keep repeating the greatest hits because the greatest hits represent

678
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 5: the minimum amount of words. It's literally grammar in election community,

679
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 5: low taxes, pro guns, pro choice. You know, they're just

680
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: very easy to drive decisions. And so it's kind of

681
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: disheartening to think about these gigantic issues just being boiled

682
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Speaker 5: down to economy of woods. Yeah, for communication, for reaching people,

683
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 5: but economy of woods gives you your father's reach. It's

684
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Speaker 5: actually a lot more simple than we think it is, right,

685
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 5: And it's.

686
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Speaker 3: Just like, yeah, the term like thought killing cliche is

687
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 3: also the other thing that's used. It's like just once

688
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: you hear that, it'll end any kind of further thought.

689
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: Once you hear a certain talking.

690
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Speaker 5: Less immigrants, more guns, now what taxes, you just understand shit.

691
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: And so you have to keep the greatest hits in

692
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Speaker 5: their current form. So you have to keep talking about emotion, save.

693
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Speaker 3: Babies despite Yeah, And it's like so funny too, because

694
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Speaker 3: like even after the last election, Republicans are like, we lost,

695
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: we got to do something about getting more suburban women,

696
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Speaker 3: and we got it.

697
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Speaker 1: We got it.

698
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Speaker 3: Spooky ghost stories about how baby Jesus got John the

699
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Speaker 3: Baptist to kick his mommy's tummy gave.

700
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Speaker 1: Him a forced ghost high five through his mother's belly

701
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Speaker 1: and they did a flip.

702
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and that's why you shouldn't make be able

703
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Speaker 3: to have any decision making ability over your own body.

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Speaker 1: Okay, both for us. Well, we have a new segment

705
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Speaker 1: on this show. It's called Woke Alerts because no, it's

706
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: just a like some political action committee, Consumers Research is

707
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: providing woke alerts to notify you when your favorite company

708
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: get goes to woke. I mean it's I feel like

709
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: we're seeing it with like the bud Light thing. I

710
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: like that.

711
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: They they said to woke alert out for Blackrock. Yeah yeah,

712
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: really woke Wall Street. Yeah yeah, they always charge that

713
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: woke Wall Street. But I mean this seems like, to

714
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Speaker 3: be honest, it's easy to make fun of. It seems

715
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: like a winning strategy to me because corporations are like

716
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: very skittish, and you can control what a corporation thinks

717
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: is happening with a mailing campaign or you know, getting

718
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: twenty people to just send a bunch of angry emails

719
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Speaker 3: to a corporate you know, like they they're not they

720
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: they're not like they don't have morals. They all they

721
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: have is like they're doing their best to see what

722
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Speaker 3: they think is making people happy, and everyone is afraid

723
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Speaker 3: of being fired and line go up. If mine go up,

724
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: then we're good. Make sure the line goes up, though, please.

725
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Speaker 1: It's Consumer's Research is basically a lobbying firm under the

726
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: guise of a consumer watchdog. It's funded by dark money.

727
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: They recently made the news for their effort to prevent

728
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: Wall Street from factor and climate change into investment decisions.

729
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: And it's they're just like launching a huge campaign to

730
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Speaker 1: anything environmental social progress. They're going to be there to

731
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Speaker 1: claim that it is woke, but like some of the

732
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Speaker 1: stuff seems like confusing, Like it seems like they're like

733
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Speaker 1: they freaked out when the American airlines like reduced leg

734
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Speaker 1: room on flights, which I guess that's woke they're they're claiming.

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Speaker 5: I mean, do they even define what woke is?

736
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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: No, And again, anyone define what.

738
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Speaker 1: Isn't nobody can. There's an author who just published a

739
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Speaker 1: book about like how woke brain disease is killing our

740
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Speaker 1: children and went on a TV show and they were like,

741
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Speaker 1: so just define woke for us, because this is confusing

742
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Speaker 1: to talk about this without having a clear definition, and

743
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Speaker 1: she had no clue. She was just like the bad Well,

744
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: see what you just you just wrote a book about it.

745
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Speaker 3: It's the old Actually, let me find that clip because

746
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Speaker 3: it's it's pretty fantastic.

747
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Speaker 1: Oh, here we go.

748
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Speaker 3: Would you mind defining well, because it's come up a

749
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: couple of times and I just want to make sure

750
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Speaker 3: we're on the same page.

751
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Speaker 6: So, I mean, woke is sort of the idea that

752
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 6: this is going to be one of those moments that

753
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Speaker 6: goes viral. I mean, well is something that's very hard

754
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 6: to define, and we've spent it in entire chapter defining it.

755
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 6: It is sort of the understanding that we need to retotal,

756
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Speaker 6: totally re imagine and reduce society in order to create

757
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: hierarchies of oppression. Sorry, it's hard to explain in a

758
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Speaker 6: fifteen seconds sound bite.

759
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I get it, I get it.

760
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Speaker 1: I get it.

761
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: Just again a thought killing cliche hold for them too.

762
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Speaker 1: Oh, woke bad?

763
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 3: That's bad, American airlines woke bad?

764
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that a better answer. Oh yeah, welk is bad.

765
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Speaker 5: Is it really an election stance like anti woke? Because

766
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: I remember seeing a couple of candidates that you guys

767
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Speaker 5: had with like I'm going to get rid of the woke, etcetera.

768
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Speaker 5: And yeah, like, Okay, I went to college in Gilsburg, Illinois,

769
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Speaker 5: and so this is this is America, America, right, It's

770
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Speaker 5: not New York America. It's not. And every bit of

771
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Speaker 5: American pop culture I've ever seen tends to ship on

772
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Speaker 5: the Gailsburg, Illinois in the middle of the countries, you know,

773
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 5: as if they're ignorant or but these are just very

774
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 5: hard working, very decent people want to be their build

775
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 5: and watch The Bachelor and go to bed at night, right,

776
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: and and and I think if even if they were Republican,

777
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 5: you went up to them and you're like, I'm anti woke,

778
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 5: they'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

779
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: You know, get the fuck off my phone, or get

780
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: the fuck out of my cafeteria, you know. So is

781
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Speaker 5: it really?

782
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Speaker 1: I think what it's done? Is it?

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Speaker 3: From my perspective, they have perfectly encapsulated the feeling of

784
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: like white hegemony or like cis head hegemony, and the

785
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: creeping influence of people that want more inclusive language, that

786
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: want more more inclusive society, and so those things because

787
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: to them, they're saying Oh, I gotta feel bad because

788
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: now I got to use people's pronouns. People have preferred pronouns.

789
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Speaker 1: That's woke.

790
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: Oh I have to now I can't. I like, I'm

791
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Speaker 3: We're supposed to teach of like a good faith interpretation

792
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: of American history to kids so they understand this, that's woke.

793
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Speaker 3: So anything that upsets that balance or suddenly puts these

794
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: people in a position they're like, oh, I got to

795
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: feel bad about this, or I have to change the

796
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: way I've been interacting with other people. That's how they

797
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: just sort of deploy that word as a sort of

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00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: the discomfort around any kind of progress that's occurring. And

799
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Speaker 3: I guess it's become basically.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not even what you define this progress, it's

801
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 5: it's rewiring. Anything that requires rewired, Yes, would be easily

802
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 5: determined as being allegedly buke.

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Speaker 1: Let's leg room on an American Airlines flight. That's rewiring,

804
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: my posture. But I think you're making a really good

805
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: point that they by being the ones who focus on

806
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: woke like, they are the ones who keep bringing this

807
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: ship up over and over again. And we saw it

808
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: in the last midterm elections that like people, you know,

809
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: they're the ones who are talking about you know, trans

810
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: people and like top surgery and you know, all all

811
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Speaker 1: these different things that people who live in Illinois, like

812
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: where you went to college, might not care that much about.

813
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: But they are like that becomes their talking point and

814
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: like they own it and they're the ones who are

815
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: like talking about it. And I feel like it's also

816
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: a losing political strategy, but it's one that gets a

817
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: lot of attention, and so they they're able to kind

818
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Speaker 1: of profit off of it.

819
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Speaker 5: I think it tracks because you have such a large

820
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Speaker 5: liberal media that picks it up as well, right on

821
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 5: both sides at tracks. But but I do think like, Okay,

822
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Speaker 5: I had host parents, and my host parents, one of

823
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Speaker 5: them was a cafeteria lady and one of them was

824
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: a truckle, right, And I mean, to them, the fact

825
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Speaker 5: that I was an Indian tespion was as alien as

826
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Speaker 5: the fact that you know that somebody was woke, et cetera,

827
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Speaker 5: et cetera. But I eventually say, if you went up

828
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Speaker 5: to either of those people and you were like, oh

829
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: my god, you got to use people's pronouns now, you know,

830
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 5: et cetera, they'd be like, I'll call you a bottle

831
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 5: of apple sauce if you want me to call you

832
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 5: that shit if my taxes go down, you know, or

833
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: if my life is made easier. And to take sort

834
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 5: of their narrative and make it about these things is

835
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: almost to disregard their real narrative.

836
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because I mean on this level, they've

837
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: the GOP especially has completely abandoned any kind of policy.

838
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Speaker 3: There's nothing Everything they evoke has nothing to do with

839
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: substantive policy. It's about these culture war grievances because they

840
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: feel that I think they saw that that's energizing people

841
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: more so in like a rallies type situation where people

842
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: are coming out and they've seen like school like these

843
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: school board meetings go up with a lot of people

844
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Speaker 3: like I don't want my kids knowing about like slavery

845
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: in this country or whatever. And I think they're very

846
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: short sightedly being like, okay, that bottle that While in

847
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: the meantime, to your point, the very real situation of

848
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: living in the United States is also a force that

849
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: acts on everyone, and they're everybody is having to face

850
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: inflation or unaffordable housing, or wage stagnation and limited options

851
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: for medical care. But because all of their things aren't

852
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: really going to the heart of correcting those things. It's

853
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 3: much easier just go straight to oh my god, remember

854
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: when you used to be able to just say, like,

855
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Speaker 3: just use slurs against gay people in public, and it

856
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: wasn't you didn't get canceled and like that. To them,

857
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: it feels like, Okay, that's a better place to just

858
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: operate from because we're not going to have a substantive

859
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: policy debate right now because we've completely just normalized this

860
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: sort of like culture war grievance thing as being the

861
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Speaker 3: way we talk about politics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, both sides are focused on distracting people from the

863
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: core thing that they actually care about, which is like

864
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 1: their material well being. And you know, both sides would

865
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Speaker 1: rather not have corporations economic health matter more than their

866
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: physical health. But that is the world that both sides

867
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: actually want to keep in place, and so they generate

868
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of noise to distract people. Hopefully that is

869
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: their goal.

870
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: But I also think that it's a very interesting time

871
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 5: for your country. And I say this respectfully, but you know,

872
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 5: I think America is getting used to the fact that

873
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: what used to be one seat at the table is

874
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 5: now many seats at the table, you know, at least

875
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 5: the global table. It's a different world we live in

876
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 5: right now. Everybody's voice is equally amplified. But like I

877
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 5: remember going to college in America in nineteen ninety nine,

878
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: right in two thousand and two thousand and one, so

879
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: just spit on nine to eleven. I feel like it

880
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: didn't really matter who the president was at that moment

881
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: in time in America, or at least it mattered less

882
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 5: because you were so far ahead of the global pack,

883
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: you know, and there wasn't this big culture conversation, and

884
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 5: everybody's voices weren't amplified. Your system had been so set

885
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 5: that it really mattered very little who the president was,

886
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: and whether you were Republican or Democrat. You were gonna

887
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: be okay no matter who the president was. And I

888
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: feel like that's somehow changed now and now it really

889
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 5: matters ideologically who the president is.

890
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

891
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: I think part of that too is just we've gone

892
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: from I think there's gradual and a gradual increase in

893
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: people actually trying to understand civics in this country now

894
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: because I think a lot for the longest time, it

895
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: didn't matter, and like the boom years of the nineties

896
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: for many people, but there are plenty communities that began

897
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: to stagnate, and those were sort of like niche things

898
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: that you would have to be really tapped into, like

899
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: American culture, to really care about. And now is like,

900
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: I think the degradation of like our infrastructure and all

901
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: these things are becoming more widespread and felt people are

902
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: beginning to understand more. It's like, oh wait, what are

903
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: these policies again?

904
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: Oh?

905
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: Right, before it used to be like, yeah, you care

906
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: about babies, but abortion was never under threat, but then

907
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: now it is, and suddenly it's like, well, hold on now,

908
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: like that that actually fucking matters to me.

909
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: And so I think it's.

910
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: Part and parcel of just how how difficult life is

911
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: becoming for people, and also having to inform yourself of

912
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: like you can't just be passive. But along what goes

913
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: alongside of that is you have all these media apparatuses

914
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: that are just there to get your attention and maybe

915
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: say like, yeah, I know it could be about this,

916
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: but let's talk about this other issue rather than you know,

917
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: do we live in a corporatetocracy with that are run

918
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: by a bunch of plutocrats? And is that something we

919
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: need to be concerned about. It's easier to say the

920
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Republicans won't do anything about guns, and you know, the

921
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: Republicans just go the Democrats are woke when I think

922
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: all people would rather say I would like to make

923
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: more money at my job, I would like to afford

924
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 3: a house. I don't want to go into crippling debt

925
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: because I want an education. Yeah, Like, take take those

926
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: points and make those real for me. Everything else is

927
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: just to avoid the real reconciliation or the real reckoning

928
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: that has to occur in this country, because that's I

929
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: think one of our greatest strengths as a culture is

930
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: their ability to avoid a reckoning with a lot of

931
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: the shit that's been going on and just kind of

932
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: paper over the cracks until I don't know, it becomes

933
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: completely untenable.

934
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, I really think your election comes down to

935
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 5: like a twenty minute debate. Like it's very entertaining, but

936
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 5: it really it will. That's the American election. It's that

937
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 5: twenty minute debate. I think you you win and lose

938
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 5: in that debate. It's it's really it's it's like watching gladiators.

939
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 5: It really is watching collection.

940
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, and that's the difference between potentially another global

941
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 3: military conflict is because one guy made fun of one

942
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: old white guy made fun of the other old white

943
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: guy on a stage, and people are like, yeah, all right,

944
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 3: that's it. He owned him, own owned him. Oh then poned.

945
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: Wait what I'm being conscripted?

946
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: And who knows if there's even anybody still making up

947
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: their mind at this point, who's still making up their

948
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: mind about Donald Trump and Joe Biden? Like what is

949
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: it even twenty minutes? Like what would it take for

950
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: anybody to feel like, Wait, Donald Trump is running for president?

951
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: This guy, all right, whereas let me see where he's

952
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: at on the issues and then I'll get back to you.

953
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 8: Right, all right, Let's take a quick break and we'll

954
00:48:50,280 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 8: be right back. And we're back.

955
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: And I do just want to talk about and vere

956
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: get your kind of perspective on guns, because we talk

957
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot about it, the fact that the presence of guns,

958
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: the fact that gun sales shot through the roof, that

959
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: that pun was unintended, but there are probably plenty of

960
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: guns inadvertently shooting through the roof because so many there

961
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: are so many new gun owners in the United States now,

962
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: because the gun industry is very successful at turning the

963
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 1: anxiety that we were just talking about into sales. And

964
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: so there's a news story that came out at the

965
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: end last week that after the mass shooting that happened

966
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: on Monday in Kentucky, the actual gun used in that

967
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: mass shooting was sold at auction to a licensed dealer.

968
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: And this is the like that that's the system in

969
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: many US states, Like many US states have a law

970
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: that says the police can't keep guns, like once they

971
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: confiscate a gun, they have to get it back on

972
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: the street. Washington State where police are allowed to decide

973
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: whether or not to sell guns, that have sold dozens

974
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: of AR fifteens, AK forty sevens and other assault weapons,

975
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: and like said, some of these weapons are then like

976
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: used to shoot police, Like so that this is actually

977
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: the rare conservative policy, like gun policy where the police

978
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: are actually like, we would prefer that this wasn't the

979
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: case because these guns keep shooting our officers after we

980
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: put them back out there. But the gun lobby and

981
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: everything makes it so that like you just can't.

982
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: Well, they made it. They made it in Kategy. It's

983
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: just a law that you can't destroy it, you know

984
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: what I mean? That's it's just because it's the law

985
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: that you can't destroy it, because like you can't do that.

986
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: Don't destroy the gun, you gotta sell it. It's like

987
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: burning a bible, you know, like it is a religious thing.

988
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: You can't destroy a gun. That's the most sacred thing

989
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: in the United States.

990
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: Check the drawer of the nightstand in your hotel room.

991
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Is there a gun. There's a place there by the gideons.

992
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I mean, and again speaking from an

993
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: outsider's perspective and speaking from a largely very non violent country. Historically,

994
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 5: even our our independence movement was was non violent, you know.

995
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 5: So I think it's pure economics. I think that, you know,

996
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 5: weapons of mass destruction always come with like contracts of

997
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 5: mass production, and people forget that, you know. And I

998
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: think the greatest con narratively that has ever been pulled

999
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 5: by the gun industry is that to preserve guns is

1000
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 5: somehow a preservation of American voice, or a preservation of

1001
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: American culture, or a preservation of American values. And that's

1002
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 5: actually not the case. Because if if a preservation of

1003
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 5: guns is a preservation of American values, then from the

1004
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 5: same timing, a present of segregation is also a preservation

1005
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 5: of American values and a preservation of other things. So

1006
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 5: if you're not preserving those things, you don't have to

1007
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: preserve guns either. If you can evolve from segregation, you

1008
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 5: can evolve from guns. But this narrative that they've put in,

1009
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: which is to preserve guns is to preserve America, is

1010
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: just gigantically reinforced. Oh yeah, and I don't think it

1011
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 5: changes unless the average American doesn't feel like a gun

1012
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 5: makes them American. That's what it needs to change.

1013
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like because on one side you have people

1014
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: that are so just scared around that, like they're like,

1015
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: I just need a gun because I don't know what

1016
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: could happen, what could happen in my neighborhood. And then

1017
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: you do have those people like it's my right to

1018
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: own this anti aircraft gun because of the Second Amendment,

1019
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: which is part of our Constitution. I know some libs

1020
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: will call it a spooky post it note signed by

1021
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 3: racists from two hundred and fifty years whatever years ago,

1022
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: but that's our right. And yet to your point, it's

1023
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: like it's the Constitution is one of the biggest things

1024
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: that people will evoke in terms of like the rhetoric

1025
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: of it is like, because that's our document and we

1026
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: can't just tear that up, even though we've had to

1027
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: amend it a few times, right, and yeah, it's it's

1028
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: become a very intoxicating argument and to the point where

1029
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: like we're only seeing the absurdity of it become more

1030
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: and more in our face. Now when you have governors

1031
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: say like, my friend was shot in that mass shooting

1032
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: and then say nothing about gun control after, and then.

1033
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, that's hands in pockets right at

1034
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: the end of the day. But I do think from

1035
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 5: a complete outsider's perspective, it's not the gun that makes

1036
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 5: you American. It's what happens after the gun that makes

1037
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 5: you American. That's why people come to your country.

1038
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Right.

1039
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 5: The fact that you can dial nine one one and

1040
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 5: a couple will be then thirty seconds, and that you

1041
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: will drive to the hospital on a road that is

1042
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 5: perfectly paved and perfectly late at night and walk into

1043
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: a hospital with state of the art technology and be

1044
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 5: able to be treated. That's the appeal. You know, it's

1045
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 5: not the guns.

1046
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: The promise. That's the promise.

1047
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 5: The ownership of the gun. People are coming across that, Oh,

1048
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 5: fuck in case I have a run into a gun,

1049
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 5: America will take care of me. That's why people come

1050
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 5: to you, if they come to you, you know. So

1051
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 5: I'd love to see the reinforcement of that narrative, and

1052
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 5: I just don't see.

1053
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: It well and again because if you think about it

1054
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: right to the point of like mass production, it's easier

1055
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: to be like, well, that keeps an industry going if

1056
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: we're suddenly like folks, people come to us because if

1057
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: we have this robust infrastructure or these other things, that

1058
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: would also begin a lot of conversation of how we've

1059
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: not reinvested in our own country, like we're like cruising

1060
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 3: off of like you know, post World War two investment

1061
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: for like many decades now, especially when you look at

1062
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 3: like public schools and things like that, where you'd hope

1063
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: to be like, man, like, we need to reinvest in

1064
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: a lot of these things, but because some of those

1065
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: would probably create a need for like more like you know,

1066
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: tax revenue and things like that just becomes a like

1067
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: a like a hot button issue because then we have

1068
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: to start talking about like our progressive tax systems, and

1069
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: it's easier just to be talking about the thing that

1070
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 3: will make people money unfortunately, and yeah, like it it.

1071
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: It really is something that I think a lot of

1072
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: Americans have lost sight of, is sort of people always

1073
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: say like, this is the best fucking country, but they're not.

1074
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 3: They're looking at it from their version of like I

1075
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: got Wi Fi and four K TV, this is the

1076
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 3: best country and like the world versus to your point,

1077
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: how a lot of other like the situation in other places.

1078
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: Why other people may believe that it's this is a

1079
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: nicer place to live, although you know that it is

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Speaker 3: an intoxicating advertisement we have and one that people end

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Speaker 3: up realizing is a little bit different when they arrive.

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Speaker 3: But overall, you know, you do see, like you understand

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Speaker 3: why there's a little bit more stability here than other places,

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Speaker 3: although it's you know, rooted in some darker things at times.

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Speaker 5: Well I don't know why guns into your school system.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I have two friends who are American

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Speaker 5: and have an eight year old and a twelve year old,

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Speaker 5: and they happen to go to college to school in India,

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Speaker 5: you know, And so all I can speak from is

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Speaker 5: from personal experience. Our school system is so hard that

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Speaker 5: our collegiate system set us free, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: It's almost like we were brought up to say, we

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Speaker 5: have to work so hard in school so we can

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Speaker 5: feel all the things we want to feel in college.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that's a great system, but I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: how can you realter your school system so it keeps

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Speaker 5: kids busier and it keeps their minds more occupied, so

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Speaker 5: they don't turn on each other with these narratives. I

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Speaker 5: think that's also a conversation to be had, you know,

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Speaker 5: about your school system.

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Speaker 3: Like culturally in India, is education seen as a thing

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Speaker 3: that is like could be a runaway train, like ideologically,

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Speaker 3: because that's sort of the like attitude. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of hostility towards public education in the United States, where

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Speaker 3: you see people like I don't want my kid to

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Speaker 3: learn that, I don't want my kid to know Rosa

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Speaker 3: Parks was black, and like these other things where you're

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Speaker 3: seeing too that there's this it's like we're incentivizing like

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Speaker 3: the breakdown of public education too. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: another thing that like we're having to fight against where

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Speaker 3: you know, teachers are already like they're fleeing the industry

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Speaker 3: because there's a lack of support, a lack of proper pay,

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Speaker 3: and we're making it as as an uninviting a place

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Speaker 3: for people who would like want to teach people to exist,

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Speaker 3: like to work and things like that.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, I think for us, you know, but we're

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Speaker 5: very young country. You have to keep that in mind.

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Speaker 5: You know, we got independence in nineteen forty seven, right,

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Speaker 5: and so for us education is a privilege, right and

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Speaker 5: simply a privilege because it was kept away from us

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Speaker 5: for so long. You know, for two hundred and fifty years,

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Speaker 5: we weren't allowed to be educated by the British so

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Speaker 5: that we wouldn't prosper. So right now, my god, your

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Speaker 5: kid is going to school, Your kid is going to college.

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Speaker 5: That's the first privilege that you have, right, that's the

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Speaker 5: first sign of privilege, apart from meals on the table,

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Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. Is education, you know. So I

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Speaker 5: don't even think we're at the point where we're like,

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Speaker 5: what kind of right narrative et cetera. Said Fuck, we're

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Speaker 5: learning this is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been inverted you know here like it's not

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Speaker 3: no one. So many people are beginning to look at

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Speaker 3: it with hostility and the rhetoric, especially with like a

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Speaker 3: lot of conservatives is like this hostility towards academia and

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Speaker 3: that like that's where indoctrination happens or whatever. And they've

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Speaker 3: made that a very like like a compelling talking point

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Speaker 3: for their base to be able to look at that

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Speaker 3: and not see that this is something that causes upward

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Speaker 3: mobility or something that you know, black and brown people

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Speaker 3: see as a privilege too. That's why many people want

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Speaker 3: to go to college. But but again, the status quo

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Speaker 3: is such that we're you know, we like right now

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Speaker 3: we're having to fight this whole campaign of like school choice,

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Speaker 3: which is really just a way to say we need to.

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Speaker 1: Destroy the public school system.

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Speaker 3: And and so like, yeah, we're we have like some

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Speaker 3: people understand the value of education and that it is

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Speaker 3: absolutely a privilege or you know, something worth just like

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Speaker 3: being able to teach our kids like the most basic

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Speaker 3: things about like our history or math or reading, while others,

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Speaker 3: like you know, see it as a slippery slope into

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Speaker 3: being woke, right or that they're like I'm going to

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Speaker 3: teach my kid at home or something like that, or

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Speaker 3: I don't want my kids with other kids that are

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Speaker 3: different than them. So it's just a it's we just have,

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Speaker 3: like there's just so much chaos going on in like

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Speaker 3: people's ability to even see something as education is like

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Speaker 3: a right for everyone and isn't something that needs to

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Speaker 3: be turned into like a a rhetorical barb.

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Speaker 5: And that's why you have a twenty minute debate and

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Speaker 5: it sorts everything out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and we're good here. Yeah. Well, Vier, it's

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Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you on the daily. Where

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Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you, see you all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff.

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Speaker 5: You can find me on vivdas dot I n I

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Speaker 5: don't have dot com yet because some boss stood bought

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Speaker 5: it and he faulted on one payment when I was

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Speaker 5: twenty eight years old. So it's Vida's I. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be touring America throughout May in June, so you

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Speaker 5: can find my My city's there, and you can catch

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Speaker 5: me on Netflix. The specials called Vida's Landing, so check

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Speaker 5: it out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nice. Is there a city that you haven't been

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Speaker 1: to that you're particularly excited to see in the US.

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Speaker 5: I'm building a set right now, so I'm kind of

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Speaker 5: doing you know, smaller rooms and so I'm going to

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Speaker 5: like Prayer, California and Salt Lake City in Houston, and

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Speaker 5: a bunch of other places you know to be.

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Speaker 1: From Atlantic City you've got coming up? I guess that

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Speaker 1: was yesterday as of Oh no, sorry, that's my May thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: Atlantic City. An interesting experiment. Yeah yeah, And is there

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Speaker 1: a tweet or work of media that you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 5: Good lord, or local media that I've been enjoying. I

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Speaker 5: just follow an account called the Dodo on in it's

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 5: like dog rescue video video stuff, and I like everything

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Speaker 5: that they do. I love a good dog rescue video.

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Speaker 5: I'm the guy who will skip to the part where

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Speaker 5: the dog is rescued that I'll catch one glimpse of

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Speaker 5: the dog when it's sad, not be able to watch

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Speaker 5: the rest, and just skip ahead until the dog is

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Speaker 5: happy and fluffy and healthy again. But watch the Dodo

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Speaker 5: there you go on Instagram. I love all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I always get. I always get for whatever. And the

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Speaker 3: ones that hit the hardest for me are the ones

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Speaker 3: where you see like a sheep whose wool has become

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Speaker 3: like just.

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Speaker 5: So mad and they have to shave it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like this this this, like this sheep

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Speaker 3: was blind, they couldn't even see.

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Speaker 1: And then you see them.

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Speaker 3: Like working all the Woolen stuff off.

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Speaker 1: And them like, oh, bless the blessed plus that issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's you, all right, Miles. Where can people find you

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Speaker 1: as their working media you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 3: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 3: Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and

1208
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Speaker 3: Jack Got Mad Bosties. Yeah, you know, we're talking about

1209
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Speaker 3: the NBA playoffs. And then you can find me on

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Speaker 3: my own the show A four to twenty day Fiance

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Speaker 3: where I talk about just absolute trash reality shows because

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Speaker 3: that's the way I escape from reality by going into

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Speaker 3: that other reality.

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Speaker 1: Is there a tea a tweet? I like, let's see.

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Speaker 3: I just want to keep the pressure and just keep

1216
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Speaker 3: talking about Harlan Crowe and you know Thomas or Clarence

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Speaker 3: Thomas and I didn't realize. We talked about how Harlan

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Speaker 3: Crowe bought his mom's house. She still lives in that

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Speaker 3: house that he bought and renovated.

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Speaker 1: So what's the big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's basically like here's money and then you

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Speaker 3: can live in it for free or I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what their agreement is, but I'm surely

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Speaker 3: that doesn't curry favor with the Supreme Court Justice uh

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Speaker 3: at Will or Will Stancil at w H. Stancill tweeted,

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Speaker 3: I feel like people are losing perspective. A billionaire subsidized

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Speaker 3: millions in luxury travel for a Supreme Court justice, then

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Speaker 3: bought the justice's parents' house and let them stay in

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Speaker 3: it while he paid for it short of envelopes of money.

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Speaker 3: How much more crooked could you get? Yeah, so we'll see,

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Speaker 3: we'll see how its.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. A tweet I've been enjoying is Josiah Johnson King

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Speaker 1: Josiah on Twitter. Fixed the NBA for me, fixed the

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Speaker 1: draft for me. He said they should do Somebody said,

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Speaker 1: what's one thing you change about the NBA playoffs? And

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Speaker 1: he said, they should do NBA way offs and have

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Speaker 1: the bottom four teams play for the number one pick

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Speaker 1: same week as the play in games. That would be incredible,

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Speaker 1: so amazing. Yeah, that would be so what a great idea,

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Speaker 1: King Josiah, make him the king of the NBA. Literally.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Obrian.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

1243
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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily zeikeist dot com, where

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Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnotes. We make off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles,

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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy it?

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Speaker 3: Just, you know, just some more beats, some head nod

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Speaker 3: stuff for you, because I was I recommended a lot

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Speaker 3: of beats last week.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep that going.

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Speaker 3: This one is from the artist six to two s

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Speaker 3: I X t o O, and it's called box Cutter

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Speaker 3: Emporium Part three, and it's just got it's it's just

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Speaker 3: a it's got a really nice like electric piano sample

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Speaker 3: and just good chopped up drums and a kind little

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Speaker 3: little droning baseline.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, enjoy it. Box Cutter Emporium Part three by

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Speaker 1: six two. All right, well, the Daily Zeit gets a

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Speaker 1: production by Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. That's gonna do it for us this morning,

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Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and

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Speaker 1: we will talk to you all then. Bye bye,