1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to book a f Daily 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks. 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: You know, yesterday I found myself really just I guess 4 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: swimming in nostalgia would be the phrase that I will use. 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: And it was because for the first time in five years, 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: President Obama, former President Obama, went to the White House. 7 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I will tell you that for me, 8 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: the image, the last image that we saw of the 9 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Obama's leaving the White House in twenty seventeen after the 10 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: inauguration of Satan to become President of the United States, 11 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: was a devastating day. And it was devastating I think 12 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: for you know, tens of millions, if not hundreds of 13 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: millions of Americans. Right the idea that we could have 14 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: experienced the historic administration eight year term of Barack Obama 15 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: to then hand the keys of America to a adamant, 16 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: vocal white supremast islamophobe, homophobe, transphobe, misogynist, criminal piece of 17 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: shit is what was daunting. And I think that we 18 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: spent you know, following that moment of just disbelief. I 19 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: think it's taken the last five years for us to 20 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: really wrap our minds around what this country has been 21 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: through and what Republicans have taken this country through. And 22 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: what I find so troubling is that it, to me, 23 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: is just so fucking obvious how dangerous the Republican Party 24 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: has become. It is so obvious to me that we 25 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: are dealing with an unhinged cult that has no moral fiber, 26 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: that has no value set, that is pretty much using 27 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: guerrilla style political warfare in order to stake their claim 28 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: to power, that they have no thoughts on relinquishing, whether 29 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: it's through election or not. And when I saw Obama, 30 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, standing at the podium in the White House, 31 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: and you know, he was there to discuss the twe 32 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: your anniversary of the Affordable Care Act, and to remind 33 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Americans that when the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare was rolled out, 34 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: that there was such opposition because Republicans who were in 35 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: the pockets of big farm as are many Democrats, namely 36 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema, who sits in the Senate, but remind you 37 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: she wasn't there at that time, but you know, to 38 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: think about the fact that there was such grave opposition 39 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: to providing Americans with quality healthcare to set up a 40 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: situation where insurance companies, right, we're not able to squeeze 41 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Americans and American families into a position where they would 42 00:03:53,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: have to make a choice between getting healthcare and I'm 43 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: putting food on their table. And I know that we 44 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: say these things, and for a lot of folks it 45 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: just sounds like a talking point, but it really isn't. Right. 46 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Like people, more people than not in this country have 47 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: gone fucking bankrupt because of medical bills. That if you 48 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: do not have health insurance and something happens to you, 49 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: or you have shitty health insurance and something happens to 50 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: you and you end up in the hospital for an 51 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: indiscriminate amount of time, you are fucked, right will you 52 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: may have wished that whatever illness, whatever accident took you 53 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: in there, took you all the way the fuck out 54 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: by the time that you come out, and you see 55 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: that now you're swimming in six figure debt. Right. So, 56 00:04:51,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: it was a real triumph for America to start slowly 57 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: to implement this imperfect policy of the ACA, to begin 58 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: to do what other industrialized nations like Canada, our neighbor 59 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: above us, has been doing for decades, Right, I had 60 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: a conversation recently with a friend of mine who had 61 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: had lived in Canada for several years, had lived and 62 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: had worked in Canada, and she said it was mind 63 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: blowing that they covered everything. She goes, even acupuncture. She goes, 64 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: I was able to go to acupuncture, to get massages, 65 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: all of this preventative care. She goes, Yes, those things 66 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: were more expensive, but it was because the government was 67 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: paying for them. And like you being able to get 68 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: eight massages a year, right, and sages are not you know, 69 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: we of course in the United States, that's something that 70 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: we see as a luxury. But to get that kind 71 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: of body work done, to work and allow your blood 72 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: to flow better, to loosen your muscles, to move your ligaments, 73 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: to stretch your body out right, to create more fluidity, 74 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: more nimbleness, prevents a lot of serious injury, prevents the 75 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: need for there to be knee surgeries and hip replacements 76 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: and all of these things. So it isn't just oh 77 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: my god, because you know what Republicans would say, Oh 78 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: my god, we're going to pay for people to go 79 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: to the SPA, because God forbid, our tax dollars go 80 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: to preventative care. So that we don't spend our last 81 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: days and our last dollars inside of a fucking hospital, 82 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: right being held hostage, buy health insurance or medicaid. Right, 83 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: So I think that, and I say medicaid because let 84 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: me tell you something, the amount of paperwork that goes 85 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: into being able to get basic things covered in the 86 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: United States, like you need to have some type of 87 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: law degree and medical degree and accounting degree in order 88 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to be able to understand, whereas in places like Canada, 89 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: this shit is just basic, right, Like everyone has healthcare, 90 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: everyone has a doctor, Like their medical bills are non 91 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: existent there, you know, like you see all of the benefits. 92 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: Healthcare is actually not even a health issue. It is 93 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: an economic imperative. And that's what former President Obama was 94 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: saying yesterday at the White House before he passed the 95 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: mic over to Biden. But for me, I just want 96 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: to go back to the nostalgia for a moment, because 97 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: there is something about Barack Obama that is so endearing, charismatic, 98 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: the ability to put people at ease. You know what's 99 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: funny is that I talk to you often, you all 100 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: often about disease, right, and the fact that you know 101 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: where does dis ease come from. It comes from not 102 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: being at ease, right, dis ease, right, misaligned right, not 103 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: at ease in agitation in a state. Right that is 104 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: the opposite of ease. And I don't want it to 105 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: be lost on people. But the ability that Obama had, 106 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: the skills that he has to be able to orerate 107 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: in such a casual way that is both relaxing because 108 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: you feel like somebody with sense and charisma and a 109 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: personality and strategy and thoughtfulness is at the helm. So 110 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: as I was sitting at my kitchen table watching the 111 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: TV behind me, I found myself being nostalgic for the 112 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: feeling that he was conjuring this feeling of ease in 113 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: watching the news that I haven't felt in twelve fucking years. 114 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: And that's what dawned on me, right, Like I haven't 115 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know if we have as a nation 116 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: felt at ease. And mind you, Obama came into office 117 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: off of like the rise of the tea party, the 118 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: collapse of the housing market, riot, coming off of the 119 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: Internet bubble burst. Like there was so much at play 120 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: when Obama came into office, and so it's not as 121 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: if we were in rosy times, but they are nothing 122 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: incompared to the catastrophe, to the catastrophic, like consistent catastrophic 123 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: events that we have been dealing with over the past 124 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: five fucking years. So I sit here and I was 125 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: just like, man, they really need to deploy this man more, 126 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: right like, because it hearkens back two better times and 127 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: not the quote unquote better times that the Republicans are 128 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: trying to harken people back to when white people were 129 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: to be feared and were the authority, and men were 130 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: the authority in every single place, and so you needed 131 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: to step off sidewalks and watch what you said for 132 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: fear of retribution by the white CIS male authorities. And 133 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: so it is. It's not that going back to that 134 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: time make America great again. But I'm like, make America 135 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: fucking sane again, make America at ease again. Make me 136 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: want to believe that this country is filled with possibilities 137 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: instead of problems. The way that I feel right now 138 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: when I'm watching these rockets haul off into space and 139 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, how do I hitch a ride? Do you 140 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because that's how I'm feeling, not 141 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: only about this country, but about the planet. You had 142 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: general General Millie sit before Congress this week as well 143 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: to speak on the war in Ukraine. And this comes 144 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: off comes off of what we have seen in Bucha 145 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: and what President Zelinski said to the UN that Butcha 146 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: is just the beginning, right that if we think that 147 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: what we are seeing and what we are hearing about 148 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: rape and torture and you know, and and and people 149 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: being put into camps and divided from their families, and 150 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: like those that are left like this is why there 151 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: has been an international another another international refugee crisis with 152 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: up to three and a half or more than at 153 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: this point three and a half million people fleeing the 154 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: Ukraine because of the ship that we just saw in Butcha. 155 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: So you see this, General Millie says before Congress, I 156 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: have never seen in my four decades of service a 157 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: time when when the world has been this dangerous, that 158 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: we are looking at a threat to Europe that we 159 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: have not seen on levels since World War Two. And 160 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: He's like, and let us be clear that I'm not 161 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: just talking about the threats that Europe can sustain. I'm 162 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that what is happening is a 163 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: threat to the United States and national security. So then 164 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I think to myself self, if we are living in 165 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: nuclear times, okay, if we are living in nuclear times, 166 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: you have the general saying that the world has never 167 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: been this unstable since World War Two, But you have 168 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: an entire American news outlet, Fox News that has hosts 169 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: that are promoting Kremlin talking points and telling us, don't 170 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: believe your lying eyes, but believe the lion ass words 171 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: that are coming out of my mouth, and that these 172 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: are doctored videos and they're fake, even though our own 173 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: satellites and satellites around the world are like, no, no, no, no, 174 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,359 Speaker 1: this is not anybody's doctored anything. This is not staged. 175 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: This is Russian war crimes. Right. If we all know 176 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: this to be true, what are we going to do 177 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: about it? Meaning that the world is once again coming 178 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: together this week to decide on more sanctions, more economic sensions, 179 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: shutting down any use by any Russians, event the American 180 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: dollars that they are holding anywhere, We are shutting down 181 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: their ability to trade. Right Germany, which Germans rely a 182 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: lot on the wheat and the oil that comes from Russia, 183 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: and they're getting ready to sanction that. No new businesses, 184 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: no new friends like you know they're drake up in 185 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: this bitch. And so what I'm saying is de escalation 186 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: does not look like it is happening. And while we 187 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: can continue now forty plus days into this war where 188 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: we have all in forty days, if you look at 189 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: a split screen picture of Zelinsky in February, and you 190 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: look at a picture of him now, it looks like 191 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: these last forty days look like forty years on this 192 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: man's face. And so I say that not as like 193 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: a joke or a plug, but the devastation that has 194 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: already been caused is sees no sign of de escalating. 195 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: What it seems as if is if Russian aggression and 196 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: criminality is growing, what is the world going to do 197 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: about it? Again? Are we just trying to avoid the 198 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: inevitable Putin is not going to stop? And when Biden 199 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: said a couple of weeks ago, when the White House 200 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: wanted to walk back what he said, when they should 201 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: have just fucking stood by it, is this motherfucker needs 202 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: to be removed. And I'm not just talking about from office. 203 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: And if the world knows that, and world leaders know that, 204 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: are we waiting for the execution of six millions of 205 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: six million. Is that the number right before the world 206 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: decides to get involved in a ward that is inevitable 207 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: that they are going to have to get involved in 208 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: in order to secure Europe and minimize the threats towards 209 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: the United States? Like, what is the game that we're 210 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: playing right now? That's honestly the question that I have 211 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: because there's no way that you watch this ship and 212 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, oh, yeah, we'll get them in court. 213 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: Because I'm saying, how many these are not just corpses, 214 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: These are not just like, these are people's loved ones. 215 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: These are grandmothers and friends and cousins and five others 216 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: and sisters that are being slaughtered coming from the store 217 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: with groceries, being tortured and raped. So how do we 218 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: sit back for How long do we sit back and 219 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: take no military action when in fact, all we do 220 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: it's talk talk, talk, talk about our big, bad military, 221 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: if it's so big and bad, and we're all about 222 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: protecting democracy except for when it's under threat in our 223 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: own country and we know that eventually we're going to 224 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: have to get involved. How many lives are we willing 225 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: to watch be stolen before action is actually taken? This 226 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: is the thing that I want to understand, and I 227 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: also want to understand why this admin ministration, excuse me, 228 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: this administration refuses to connect the dots between what is 229 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: happening in Ukraine at the hands of Putin and what 230 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: Republicans want to happen in the United States. Why it 231 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: is so difficult not to also put a target on 232 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: the back of the Tucker Carlson's of the world and 233 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: the Fox News is and how they are an extension 234 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: and an arm of the Kremlin and Putin in the 235 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: United States that he never had before, but thanks to 236 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Trumpism, he found his way in after 237 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: motherfucking decades. So how do we not tie these things 238 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: together to create the campaign that is necessary to wage 239 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: against Republicans so that we don't lose in mid terms? 240 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Because here's what I'm saying, folks, And I said this 241 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday, and I've said it on TikTok, and 242 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I'll continue to say it until I'm blue in the face. 243 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: These are not a normal election times. We are not 244 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: headed into normal campaign times. We are dealing with an 245 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: unhinged white supremacist cult that has told us that when 246 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: they take power, they are going to impeach the current 247 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: president of the United States on whatever fucking grounds that 248 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: they make up, and then they are going after their 249 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: political enemies, from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama and anyone 250 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: that gets in their way, they will lock them up 251 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: and throw away the key. And if you think that 252 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: I am fucking kidding that, listen to the things that 253 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: are coming out of the mouths of Lindsey Graham and 254 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell. They are playing for fucking keeps. 255 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: And if Democrats don't begin to connect the dots between 256 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: what is happening abroad and what is happening here and 257 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: what is happening globally, we're going to be fucked. I 258 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: get into a deeper conversation about this and what it 259 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: is that we see as the Republican strategy and what 260 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: it is that Democrats can do with the time that 261 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: we have left to combat it with my friend, our 262 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzo. That conversation is coming 263 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: up next, folks. As always, you know that when it 264 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: is Wednesday, we have one man, one doctor that is 265 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: in the chair with us on Will Gay f and 266 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: that is doctor Jonathan Metsol, our in house doctor and 267 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the author of Dying of Whiteness Jonathan Really interesting news 268 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: this week to open us up is it is a 269 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: twelve year anniversary of the Affordable Care Act and for 270 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: the first time in five years, President Obama. Former President 271 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: Obama found himself at the White House House with President 272 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Biden and with Vice President Kamala Harris to talk about 273 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act and that when he left office, 274 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: twenty million people had been able to get insurance that 275 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: had not been able to get insurance before. That number 276 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: is now up to thirty million Americans. He also made 277 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: mention of the fact that over the time that the 278 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act was being pushed, that there was absolute 279 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: Republican opposition. Republicans tried and failed over sixty times to 280 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: get rid of Obamacare. They did nothing while they had 281 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: the White House under Donald Trump to make any gains 282 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: or to try and repeal Obamacare. What are your thoughts, 283 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: particularly after if we had not had Obamacare. I'll ask 284 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: this first, if we had not had Obamacare, what would 285 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: have been the ramifications of that during a global health pandemic? 286 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: Because I think that we don't talk enough, and particularly 287 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: at a time when Democrats need to really be looking 288 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: for wins and looking for conversation to offer with regard 289 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: to what they have done. Where do you think we 290 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: would have been as a country in twenty twenty till 291 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: now if Obama Care hadn't of past and we were 292 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: met with COVID nineteen. Well, I think it's important to 293 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: note that actually the Trump administration tried to destroy the 294 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: Affordable Cact three months into the pandemic, and so that's 295 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: not a hypothetical question. The Trump administration filed a brief 296 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: for a case in June twenty twenty that basically, just 297 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: to quote that brief, the entire Affordable CARECT must fall. 298 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: So they tried to destroy the Affordable COCT within four 299 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: or five months of the pandemic starting. And the other 300 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: thing that the Trump administration did was they didn't expand 301 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: medicaid in Red states as the pandemic really hit. And 302 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: so that's that's not a hypothetical scenario. Really. I guess 303 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: the flip side question I ask is how much better 304 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: shape would we have been if we would have expanded 305 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: medicaid across the entire country when the pandemic hit? And 306 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: I can tell you we'd been in much better shape 307 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: than we are when we are now, because it's not 308 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: just about medical treatment and access to medicine. The Affordable 309 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: Care Act also helps with medical bankruptcies, prescription drug costs, 310 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: preventative care, public health, all these other factors. And so 311 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, I did a piece and I'll tweet it 312 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: out after we have this conversation. When when Trump was 313 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: trying to kill the ACA in June twenty twenty, I 314 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: wrote a piece for US News and what I said is, 315 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: just look at the rate of uninsurance before the Affordable 316 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: Care Act for non white Americans. And the data was incredible, 317 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: like the number of Latino African American and particularly a 318 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: bi Americans, like it's unimaginable now because of the Affordable Coact, 319 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: that there were like forty percent of entire demographic populations 320 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: that didn't have health insurance at the time. And so 321 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: what the Affordable Charact did first and foremost was it 322 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: cut the rate of uninsurance in half or more for 323 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: minoritized populations and low income populations, and particularly in Blue states. 324 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: And so really the Affordable Coact has been on one 325 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: hand of resounding success if you look at Blue states, 326 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: but it's also really only half the story because really 327 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: for a healthcare network to work, it's got to cover everybody, 328 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: and the GOP never let that happen, you know, and 329 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: talk to us, Jonathan two, Because again I find that 330 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: the pushback that Democrats tried, I guess at the campaign 331 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: that Democrats tried to age as a pushback to Republicans 332 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: inventing stories like death panels, inventing stories you know that 333 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: that essentially were the basis of part of your book, right, 334 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: which is that white people were willing to not get 335 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: themselves healthcare so long as like the black and brown 336 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: people down the street, we're not going to be able 337 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: to get healthcare that they were. I mean, this is 338 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: this is the the was the idea around you know, 339 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: integrating public swimming pools, right, it's um, we would rather 340 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: our kids not swim and drain the pools that all 341 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: of our all of our country clubs and in all 342 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: of our neighborhoods as opposed to integrating them. And so 343 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: can you talk a bit about how the Republicans were 344 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: able like what were some of the messaging, what was 345 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: some of the messagings that they continue to use that 346 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: get people to vote against their own healthcare even during 347 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: a fucking pandemic. Yeah, well they're There are two parts 348 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: answers to that. Of course, my entire book was about 349 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: the It was about the second part of that question, 350 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: which is, in other words, if you're if you're a 351 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: Republican strategist in the South, you all you have to 352 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: say are three things. Um, this is government intrusion number one. 353 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: This is um, this is an assault on your own 354 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: freedoms and liberties number two. And black people are going 355 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: to cut in front of you inline and take resources 356 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: that are meant for you. You You say those three things 357 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: and you get people to not wear pants basically, I mean, 358 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: you just say you know it. Yes. And so that's 359 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: what we saw when we were doing research on the 360 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Affordable character on the ground at the time, at the 361 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: time that it rolled out. The first couple of months, 362 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: everybody was for it. I mean, we interviewed all these 363 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: conservatives who were like, man, I'm finally getting some help 364 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: paying for prescription drugs and stuff like that. Like people 365 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: were really for it, and then they started saying those 366 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: three things. You remember, when ACA rolled out, there was 367 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: the Obama African which doctor posters and stuff like that, 368 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: and they'd creeping Uncle Sam with a speculum in the room, 369 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: you know, doing a guyo exam on your wife and 370 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: all these kind of things. And within three months, people 371 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: who were supporting it, we just watched it happened like 372 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: a SlowMo car wreck, you know. Um, we watched people 373 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: turn and say, oh my god, this is government intrusion 374 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: into my life and it's taking away freedoms and liberties. 375 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: And I think black people are going to come in 376 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: front of me in line and take resources that are 377 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: meant for me. Like it's it's just like it's like 378 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: catnip in a way. And so it was just weird 379 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: to watch to watch that happen. Right, People supported it 380 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: and then they were told not to and then they didn't. 381 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: So that's part of it. But the flip side, of course, 382 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: is the other thing we always talk about here, which 383 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: is that Democrats don't know the Democrats know how to 384 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: play politics, right, and so just to say hey, this 385 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: is great, Look we're helping you all those kind of things, 386 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: feel good, come by all that great, you know, Biden 387 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Obama reunion tour great. But I mean if we were Republicans, 388 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: we would be turning this and it's on its head 389 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: right now, you know, Republicans want to kill your They 390 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: want to kill your fucking grandmother, you know, you know, 391 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: like the Republicans are trying to kill your grandmother, or 392 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: the Republicans are trying to kill white people by taking 393 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: away the affordable I like, you know, play some politics 394 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: with this stuff. Don't just message the field good stuff, 395 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: um and so to development. But Jonathan, I want to 396 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: I want to go to I want to go back 397 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: to the three points that you laid out, because this 398 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: is what Republicans apply to every issue, all right, right, 399 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: so it's so so let's let's just reiterate it again. 400 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: You said first, right, all Republican strategies have to do 401 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: is say what say that this is going to impose 402 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: on your liberty? Number Number one is um, this is 403 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: government intrusion in government intrusion into your life, big government, 404 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: and they did that in the Affordable Care Act. They 405 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: literally had Uncle Sam with a speculum m who and 406 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Uncle Sam looked really evil. So it was the government 407 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: was so intrusive that it was doing a gynecologic exam 408 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: on your wife. Like that's how that's how, that's how crass. 409 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: The advertisements were at the beginning of your number Number two. 410 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: So number one is the government at tuition Number two 411 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: is the government is then impinging on your freedoms and liberties, 412 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: your freedom to be an individual choice, be a libertarian, 413 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. And then number three, 414 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: of course, is the racial component, which is, these are 415 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: resources that shouldn't be going to you, but instead they're 416 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: going to Mexicans who are pouring over the border and 417 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And so that's a component of everything. 418 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: That's really a component of everything. And the thing is 419 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: it ties into deep anxieties, like it's not just let 420 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: me just be clear, it's not just the racism gene. 421 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: It is in part, but it's also but it's all 422 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: of those things. It's all of those three things combined. 423 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you just nailed the three things that Republicans 424 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: will apply. They'll apply it to abortion, they'll apply it 425 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: to help they'll apply it to general healthcare. They'll apply 426 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: it to voting, they'll apply it to why your taxes 427 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: can't be lowered, they'll apply it to pharmacis. I mean, 428 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: this is it's like, oh, how do we fight back? Well, 429 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: what is the response on each of those three points 430 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: that Democrats need to make? Just let's just use healthcare. 431 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: But if these are the same points that are being 432 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: used to and applied in every single case, then why 433 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: is it so goddamn hard for Democrats to say, these 434 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: are the three things that we need to come up 435 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: with a response to. It's reigning in Nashville today, So 436 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: I feel like swearing for some reason. So I'll just say, like, 437 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: we need to go on the fucking offensive, like we 438 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: played defense every every damn time. And that's the issue 439 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: is we don't we were playing defense all the time. 440 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: So we wait for them to make the three points 441 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: and then we respond to the three points with reason 442 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like go on the offensive. Right, 443 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: So I think if we would ever frame the issue 444 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: in advance of having to respond to those three points, 445 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: we'd be in much better shape. I mean again, the 446 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: Affordable Cact is a perfect example. Um, you know, without healthcare, 447 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: the GOP is killing your grandmother, or the GOP hates 448 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: white people because it's denying them help, you know, something 449 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: like like just craft craft your own narrative that puts 450 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: them on the defensive and forces them to answer to 451 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: their own base. We never do that. We only appeal 452 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: to people's common sense and then we wait and play 453 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: defense and so um and so I wish we could 454 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: take the affordable Cactus a perfect example. Like I watched 455 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: this happen where we put out the thing, everybody got healthcare, 456 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: people were happy, and then we assume people were gonna 457 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: you remember this from the time, right, Everybody's like, well, 458 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: the minute people get a benefit, they're never going to 459 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: give it up, like they like it, like Medicare or Medicaid, right, 460 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's much hardway from people, right right, Well, 461 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that that's true, except that you also, 462 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean that was true for Medicare and Medicaid and 463 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: know your passport and your you know, um whatever kind 464 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: of crap ways to do in the fifties. But now 465 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: like that doesn't it doesn't work that way. You also 466 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: have to craft the narrative now. And so it's not 467 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: just like people are going to see the benefit and 468 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: they like it. You also have to frame that what 469 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: that benefit means. Right, And So what I learned studying 470 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act is the Democrats really appealed to 471 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: common sense and they thought the many people. Yeah and so, 472 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: but the Republicans had a narrative, right, they had this 473 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: really compelling to you know, totalizing narrative. And so I 474 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like this is the twelfth anniversary 475 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: of the Affordable CARECT and we should use this as 476 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go on the offense about the narrative, 477 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: like start going on the offense knowing how the other 478 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: side is going to play it, and really and really 479 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: start hammering that. I mean, right now is a great 480 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: time to do that. And so again, like today, I 481 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: only caught a little bit of that of that, you know, 482 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: I think people should rebel in the success of this 483 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: program against all odds, and the Affordable Charact that was 484 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: passed wasn't even as good as what they thought it 485 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: could be, and it certainly isn't as good as it 486 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: could be now because nobody ever let it improve. But 487 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: it's still a pretty remarkable achievement. So it's important to 488 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: take a victory lap about that. But in the meantime, 489 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: start scaring the crap out of people that the Republicans 490 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: are going to kill your grandmother and so, you know, 491 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: and so I just think we need to go on 492 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: the offense about this thing and create a point of 493 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: making the other side go on the defense or have 494 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: to answer that, and healthcare again is a perfect example 495 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: of that. I mean, but like that, you know, you 496 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: you make the joke about all go ahead and say 497 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: that the Republicans are going to are going to kill 498 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: your grandmother, but they literally said that your grandparents were 499 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: up for being sacrificial lambs during COVID. Yeah. Like, I 500 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: truly watch that in a Fox News clip that I 501 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: thought should have been on SNL. That was just like, 502 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: no grandparents would be willing to sacrifice their life for 503 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: their grandkids. And somehow Republicans turned that bizarre death march 504 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: into some active patriotism as opposed to wearing a fucking 505 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: mask that would keep grandma and grandpa alive. All right, 506 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean we're swimming in f bombs today, in which 507 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: I love, and so let me just say that. You know, again, 508 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: I just think that we should because even with that 509 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: stuff with Grandma and Grandpa, we were appealing to common 510 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: sense and they were casting this narrative that then we 511 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: had to respond to. So I just wish, especially because 512 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: we have these things called the midterms coming up, that 513 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: we start crafting some narratives that put them on the defensive. 514 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: And I think, again, healthcare is a perfect example, because 515 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: people actually do have the benefit in a lot of places. 516 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: And so I think using that to using that to 517 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: craft some aggressive marketing that actually turns this very predictable 518 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: narrative on its head and makes people have to answer 519 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: for it, I think would be now would be a 520 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: great time to do it. I really do think that, 521 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's shift now with a couple of 522 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: minutes that we have left to talk about the midterms, right, 523 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: because last week when we were when we were chatting, 524 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: we were talking about the lack of messaging, right, the 525 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: lack of clarity, and we were talking about the fact 526 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: that it's not enough to just say that Democrats have 527 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: a big tent and so they can't figure out how 528 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: to message, and it's easier to message to those that 529 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: are a monolith, which it is. We know those things 530 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: to be true. What I find really troubling, though, Jonathan, 531 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: right now, about how even the midterms are being characterized 532 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: on mainstream news is that we're headed into a normal 533 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: midterm with like a normal group of Republicans, and that 534 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: they're not unhinged, that they are not steeped in their 535 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: value set of white supremacy, and that this is not 536 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: a danger a threat to the world, given that even 537 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: their national syndicate, Fox News, who right now is upholding 538 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: talking points from the Kremlin about war crimes in Ukraine 539 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: at the hands of Putin and Russian soldiers. What do 540 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: you say about? What do you say to how we're 541 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: discussing the midterms that are still a couple of months 542 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: away and making it seem as if this is a 543 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: normal election. You know, it's funny because think about what 544 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: you've heard. The only thing any of us have heard 545 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: about the midterms is that we're going to get wiped out, right, 546 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: And I mean if there are a couple of ways 547 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: to think about that strategy. Either that's a conscious strategy 548 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: to let that narrative burn out, you know what I mean, 549 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: and like let it let it become so clear that 550 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna that we're gonna um lose, and then let 551 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: that burnout before the midterms. That's that's one possibility. Wait, 552 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: because we have short attention spans until a while down 553 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 1: the road to rally the base, let all this stuff 554 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: play out. I don't, I just it's hard for me 555 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: to know right now, Like, like, what's the strategy? Honestly, Um, 556 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people saying, now, oh, 557 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: all the powers in the in the in the suburbs, 558 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: like those are the main swing voters. So really you've 559 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: got to start crafting messages that appeal to So, I 560 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: mean basically, because of course the US elections, like there's 561 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: the base, and there's the base, and then there's there's 562 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: like vacillating middle, and whoever wins the middle wins the election, right, 563 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: And so the assumption is, like people hate Brandon so much, 564 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: or they hate what Biden's doing so much, or they 565 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: hate whatever, that it's just going to be a wipeout. 566 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: And of course jerrymandering also, But it's hard for me 567 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: to know, and maybe you can help me here, what's 568 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: the what's the democrats master strategy? Right now? I mean 569 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: Democratic coalition? It feels so fragile, and I think it's 570 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: not just I just feel like people really don't realize 571 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: quite what's at stake with this mid term. So we 572 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: need like one narrative because I do think it's viable 573 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: that if it is true that the Republicans wipe out 574 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats, it seems pretty likely that they'll impeach Joe Biden, right, 575 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean it seems pretty likely that it seems pretty 576 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: likely that there would be like a massive constitutional crisis. 577 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: And I just I don't see the urgency about like 578 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: the on the ground mobilization. And this isn't just mobilization 579 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: about like the major things, like you know, we should 580 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: be mobilizing, as we were saying last time, about you know, 581 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: we need some narrative that like gets everybody riled up 582 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: about the school board election and about the people who 583 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: are going to control the elections, who's running for those 584 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: positions and all those kind of things. You know, I 585 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: just feel like, I don't know, I just I feel frustrated, honestly. 586 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: You know, maybe we need our we need counter three points. Yeah, 587 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: I think that we need strong counterpoints to the list 588 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: that you just put together. But I also think that 589 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: we need a bucket of cold water dumped on the 590 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: heads of the Democratic establishment as well as voters in 591 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: recognizing that if Republicans do what the posters say right 592 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: now that they're going to do that there is a shellacking. 593 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: In the same way that Obama got completely blown out 594 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: of the water in midterms, this is a different situation. 595 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: We are living in a different environment, right and I 596 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: think that we should have saw the warning signs back 597 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands with regard to how dangerous 598 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: Republicans were coming, but we're becoming. But we said, like, oh, 599 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: like this is normal. It was never normal for Republican 600 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: Senate to hold the Supreme Court Justice hostage. It was 601 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: never normal to say that you wanted to make a 602 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: president a one term president. It was never normal any 603 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: of the ways in which we watch President Obama be 604 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: treated over those last eight years. But we wanted to 605 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: once again shrug our shoulders and say that I've had 606 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: everything to do with race and not everything to do 607 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: with a longer strategy around race and racism. Right, and 608 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: so they impeach Biden what like, and do so. And 609 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: again we also have to remember, and one of my 610 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: favorite memes that comes out every once in a while 611 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: to remind us that all of the atrocities that we've 612 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: ever talked about and see in the world were legal. Right. 613 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: The genocide against Choose in you know, in the Holocaust 614 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: was legal, Apartheid in South Africa was legal, colonization was legal. 615 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: So being able to come in and remove Joe Biden 616 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: because you don't want a Democrat to be president of 617 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: the United States, and you're going to do everything that 618 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: you can to mar this party because now you have power, 619 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: and when they had power, they did nothing. I mean, 620 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: who's going who who are we to blame right for 621 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: this scenario that we're in right now? Do we just 622 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: blame Republicans you think? Or do we have to blame 623 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: Democrats as well? Well? I mean that's really what I 624 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: was going to ask you, is like, what are the 625 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: Democrats right now? In other words, are the Democrats a 626 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: you know? I mean if the Democrats were like a 627 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: laser focused sink, a strategy that combined a bunch of 628 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: different interests and a bunch of different demographics, but how 629 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: to strategy, then these mofos would never have gotten away 630 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: with like like the minute they start banning books, we 631 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: send ten thousand people, ten million people to to to 632 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: support books. And the minute they start showing up for 633 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: school board, we send ten billion people. In the minute 634 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: their anti mask we are like out there in droves 635 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: supporting masks and vaccines and stuff like that. But we've 636 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: just taken it all lying down. And partially that is 637 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: about just what we're up against, but partially it's that 638 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: the Democrats, you know, I do really kind of feel, 639 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: to be honest, doing a lot of on the ground 640 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: research here, that there's a secret fantasy Centrists feel like 641 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: the Progressives are going to get wiped out. Progressives feel 642 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: like if we get beaten bad enough, the Centrists are 643 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: going to get wiped out. So there's like a fracture 644 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: within the Democrats that I think is very dangerous. And 645 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 1: I say that because you know, my friend Jason Stanley, 646 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: his work is his work about fascism, talks about the 647 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: biggest thing that gives rise to fascism is a fractured resistance, right, 648 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: and so, and that's what kind of what we're seeing 649 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: is that the Democrats don't have The Democrats are not 650 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: going the same way down the river in a certain 651 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: kind of way. And so, you know, I think again 652 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: there's a fantasy that, oh, the Centrists are going to 653 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: get exposed once and for all, and the Progressives can 654 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: take over and we get have Medicare for all. But 655 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: it ain't going to work that way, you know. So 656 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: I think the Democrats really need a kind of big 657 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: ten approach right now, and and and at least right 658 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: at this moment. I mean, they had it when they 659 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: elected Biden honestly, but then it all fell apart the 660 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: minute the minute the election was over. I think you 661 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: got to figure out how to get that back. Yeah, 662 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is where we are, and 663 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: I and I just I want to remind people that 664 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: we are not living in normal times. And I think 665 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: that the what I get really frustrated at is that 666 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: the purpose I always felt that the media had wasn't 667 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: just to you know, have wonderful ratings and bring in, 668 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, billions of dollars that it was actually supposed 669 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: to at least the news anyway, was supposed to educate 670 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: the masses to the issues at hand and to the 671 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: risks that we are, that the danger zones that we 672 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: are in. Um, right now, we just have folks looking 673 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: at the Kremlin and wagging their finger about Russian State 674 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: TV and saying nothing about how they are influencing our 675 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: our body politic right now. Well, Jonathan, as always, we 676 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: appreciate your insights, and we'll continue to discuss this as 677 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: we get closer and closer to midterms and see where 678 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: we land. I mean, somehow I feel like we're gonna 679 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: have no shortage of material. So yeah, there's that everybody 680 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: hanging there as always dear friends. Power to the people 681 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: and to all the people. Power, Get woke and stay 682 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: woke as fuck.