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Speaker 1: M. What's lancing my Rectel Polyps. I'm Robert Evans hosted

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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards, the podcast where we talking about the

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Speaker 1: worst people in all of history, and every week I

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Speaker 1: try a new and terrible introduction. Uh. My guests today

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Speaker 1: are Dan and Jordan from Knowledge Fight. What did you

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Speaker 1: think of that one? Guys? Was that? Was that? All right?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was okay? It was spectacular? Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Are you guys big fans of Rextel Polyps? Big,

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Speaker 1: big fans, big fans. I had that feeling, and I

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Speaker 1: named my first son Paula. Ah, that's such a cute

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Speaker 1: name for a kid. I named my first son Rectel.

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Speaker 1: I was planning on having too, but you know, time

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Speaker 1: makes fools of us all. Indeed, Rexel Evans does not

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Speaker 1: sound like a good name. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: born with that one. We we got a real boy

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Speaker 1: named Sue situation. Meanwhile, Paula Holmes, Yeah, Paula Holmes perfectly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Paul Holmes is a solid poul up. Paula Holmes is

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Speaker 1: going to cut one hell of an R and B album.

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Speaker 1: Rectel L. Evans is going to join Blackwater. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean my goal with any child I have is

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Speaker 1: wind up having a bloody, glass filled fight in a

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Speaker 1: the end of Boy Named Sue Um And then you

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Speaker 1: do an episode about your own Yeah, about my own father,

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Speaker 1: you do an episode about you if you name your

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Speaker 1: kidding rectels. We're talking about Mike Adams, a man who

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Speaker 1: talks about butts, but mainly to sell people silver that

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Speaker 1: they should put inside of their butts, which is a

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Speaker 1: real thing that Mike at himselves colonic silver, which is

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Speaker 1: but silver fun times. So, based on everything we've learned

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Speaker 1: about the Health Rangers so far, most of you probably

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Speaker 1: And so we're clear the right side of the vaccine

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Speaker 1: issue is that vaccines are good. I think we're in there.

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Speaker 1: I think we're all we should all be in agreement

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Speaker 1: about that one. Now. I'm still on team polio. I'm

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Speaker 1: still on team polio. It's coming back. You just that's

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Speaker 1: a defensible argument, though, if you're anti vaccine not because

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Speaker 1: If Exxon just came out and was like, we want

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's I guess that's a reasonable argument.

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Speaker 1: imagine just like the CEO of Exxon in a Patagonia

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Speaker 1: least at least you're consistent. BP just released an official

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Speaker 1: easy to trace the influence of stuff like that Wakefield

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Speaker 1: Mike Adams is harder to parse out. It's clear that

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Speaker 1: But like a lot of people have written about all

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Speaker 1: of that stuff, what makes Mike Adams special is the

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Speaker 1: size of his platform. I think prog rest notes. According

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Speaker 1: to the service com Score, natural News hosted over two

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Speaker 1: million unique visitors in the month of December two fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Adams claims that he has personally authored over two thousand articles,

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Speaker 1: They note that Adams's news feeds regularly get higher numbers,

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Speaker 1: This is not just some guy ranting against vaccines. This

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Speaker 1: scientific gobbledegook. He's another one of the people who's been

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Speaker 1: that's it's a lot. It's a lot to take in, um,

424
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Speaker 1: but you you get an idea of how Mike makes

425
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: his arguments about vaccinats to people well up and fall

426
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: off if you if you vaccinate yourself. That's one of

427
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: those like watching that part of that especially, Like it's

428
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: that weird middle ground that I don't understand exactly how

429
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: to figure out what's what. Like there's a clear attempt

430
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: to be funny. Clearly he's trying to be funny on

431
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: some level. Yeah, yeah, but it's mixed in with these

432
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: um audacious, unproven medical claims. It's it's hard to figure

433
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: out where the line is. Like, how much of that

434
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: nut sex stuff was a joke? Yeah? It does. Mike

435
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: Adams really believe that. So every girlfriend I've ever had

436
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: has said that to me, the vaccines are going to

437
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: shrivel you on nuts. Know how much of that nut

438
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: sex stuff is a joke? Oh oh well yeah, Now

439
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: we should probably talk a little bit more about what

440
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: kind of person Mike Adams is. I I just wish

441
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: we had more detail about his life. So tragically, we're

442
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: going to have to refer back to the bio on

443
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: his website where he notes Adams has no criminal record

444
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: and has never been arrested. Bio. That's that's I actually

445
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: wrote it in your bio too. He avoids alcohol, smoking, coffee,

446
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: and all recreational drugs. He has never used recreational drugs

447
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: in his entire Life's kind of think he might have

448
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: used recreational drugs. Yeah. Yeah, if you have to preemptively

449
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: deny something, that's probably because you already did it. But also,

450
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: how do you do an alternative news site that has

451
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: stuff about crystals and not smoke some weed? Like, how

452
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: do that? Doesn't that seems very incongruous to me? It does?

453
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: It does, Adams notes in his website. Adams is not

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Speaker 1: known to appear on the social scene and usually spends

455
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: time in nature rather than socializing. He's occasionally spotted in

456
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: public at the Whole Foods market in Austin, Texas. Adams

457
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: is well trained in hand to hand combat, firearms, and

458
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: self defense. He has authored numerous courses on self defense

459
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: and personal protection. So Mike Adams goes to Whole Foods

460
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: and he'll fucking kill you. Yeah, I like that. He's

461
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: not you know, you're not going to find him at

462
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: a debutop ball, but he'll be at the whole foods

463
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: and he has trained tell you'll fuck you up? Tell

464
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: me how much friends there is between that and maybe

465
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: the unibomber's self described bio like like, come on, man,

466
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: Kauzynski wasn't good at Judo. No, no, he was not

467
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: uh terrible at Judo. Incredible presence on the Graham though,

468
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: really took to social media like a duck takes to water. Now.

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Speaker 1: One thing we all know for sure about Mike Adams

470
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: is that he has thin skin when it comes to

471
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: people criticizing him directly. This might be part of why

472
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: he's not more widely known. On April third, two fourteen,

473
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: John inteen wrote a profile of Adams for Forbes, where

474
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: he is a contributor. Mike lashed out to Forbes the

475
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: same day, claiming John's article contained factual and accuracies and slander.

476
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: He told Forbes to take it down and they folded

477
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: like an oregamy crane. Adams demanded substantial corrections, and of

478
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: which dealt with the actual meat of John's claims. Adams

479
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to be called anti science, or an AIDS

480
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: denialist or a nine and eleven truther. He wrote this

481
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Speaker 1: to Forbes, I am contacting you to firmly request that

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Speaker 1: you immediately retract this article and refrain from allowing obvious

483
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: biotechnology frontman such as John Inteen to exploit your website

484
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: for such false and defamatory hit piece articles filled with

485
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: many factual errors and rumormongering. Falls into the category of

486
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: cyber bullying. Are we still in his bio? No? No, no,

487
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: he's is what he wrote Forbes. That's a good letter though, Yes. Now,

488
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: because he's a real journalist, John Intene published the gigantic

489
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Speaker 1: document exhaustively laying out the evidence for every claim he

490
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: made against Mike Adams. You can go read it right

491
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: now on the subject of AIDS denial, and includes screen

492
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Speaker 1: grabs of an article written by Mike Adams titled AIDS

493
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Speaker 1: The gray medical con is explained by data. Mike, Yeah, AIDS,

494
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm denying it. Don't call me an AIDS denier. Here's

495
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: what he wrote in that article. HIV does not cause AIDS.

496
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: HIV does not cause anything. A staggering statement, giving the

497
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: hype and acceptance of the scientific establishment and through them,

498
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: the public, that the HIV virus is the only cause

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Speaker 1: of AIDS. HIV is a weak virus and does not

500
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: dismantle the immune system, nor is aids passed on sexually.

501
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: Did he write this in the Reagan era? Like when

502
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: did he write that? No, that's like or some ship

503
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: that's crazy? Yeah, Now that sounds almost like a daily

504
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: affirmation that he tells himself, Hey, don't worry about it, Mike, Mike,

505
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be fine. You can't get aids, Mike. Yeah. Now,

506
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: to back up his statement that Mike Adams is a

507
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: nine eleven truther, John Intane included this article that Mike

508
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: wrote jumping rope in nine eleven truth how sheep have

509
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: been trained to avoid the unpopular truth about World Trade

510
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: Center seven. There's there's numerous examples of both of these things.

511
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Is yeah, him of course being this kind of person. Yeah.

512
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: And while Adams accused John inteen of cyber bullying, the

513
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: email that he himself sent John seems to fit that

514
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: definition much better. As you are now well aware, you

515
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: are about to be named in a personal lawsuit which

516
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: will cite the extensive body if you're defamation and cyber

517
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: bullying efforts, all of which have been archived in timestamp

518
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: for court evidence. You can count on this lawsuit requiring

519
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: considerable resources of your time and money for the foreseeable future.

520
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: You are no doubt also aware that I have many

521
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: friends in law enforcement and that we are simultaneously pursuing

522
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: an effort to have you arrested and charged with cyber

523
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: bullying crimes. Fairness, he is a ranger. Yeah, he is

524
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: a ranger. He got those tabs, He got his Health

525
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: Ranger tabs. His Challenge coin is just a vial of

526
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: a bowl. Now, as far as I'm aware of, the

527
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: defamation suit against John Inteen did not proceed, and John

528
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Inteen continues to write fantastic articles about Mike Adams. He

529
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: was particularly furious in May of two thousand fourteen when

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00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Doctor Oz, America's most prominent medical con man who will

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00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: probably sue me for that line, invited Mike Adams on

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00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: as a guest on the Doctor Oz Show. No, that's

533
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: not real, that that fucking happens. You can't do that.

534
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: You can't do that. That's crazy. That's that's second to

535
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the music video. Like you should lose your medical license

536
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: for sitting down and talking to Mike Adams and doing

537
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: anything but saying how dare you? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely show

538
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: medical license. Yeah, I'm still going to go with I

539
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: think we're going to put that in there too. Up

540
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: in there, I think we've learned that in America, not

541
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: a goddamn thing will get a TV show taken. You

542
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: should lose your fucking freedom for that ship. Yeah, yeah,

543
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: it's pretty bad now. As Think Progress notes, the Doctor's

544
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: twelve minutes segment with the Health Ranger was concerned with

545
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: Adams's research into the levels of heavy metals contained in

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Speaker 1: a variety of supposedly organic foods. Dr Oz directed viewers

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00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: to adams website in order to find out which Ginko,

548
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: Beloba protein and Coco supplements passed the test performed in

549
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: adams own lab. Those pages off a recommendations and esoteric

550
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: explanations and the levels of heavy metals discovered in each product,

551
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: but nothing on the methodology and instrumentation used to arrive

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00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: at these vital and commercially impactful conclusions. I really can't

553
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: overstate how fucking dangerous this is on Dr Oz's part.

554
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Having Mike Adams on and giving them the chance to

555
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: plug his websites and wares and focusing the conversation on

556
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: one narrow area that seems legitimate is just about one

557
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: of the most irresponsible cases of platforming I can imagine,

558
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: and there's not even any evidence that adams Is research

559
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: into heavy metals on these drugs is accurate in any way,

560
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: shape or form. I think Progress reached out to eight

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00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: of the vendor's micro viewed badly on his website. They

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00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: found that no one in the supplement industry was willing

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00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: to go on record talking about Mike Adams, one company's

564
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: president whose products are certified organic and meet all the

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00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: necessary standards of the when f d A agree to

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00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: talk on the condition of anonymity, stating that people in

567
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: our position don't want to validate his arguments or acknowledge them.

568
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: We don't want to kick him in case he decides

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00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: to come after us. The minute you open your mouth

570
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: on that echo chamber, you're on the defense and there

571
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: is no coming back. That sounds that sounds real. Yeah,

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00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: that sounds entirely exactly what you'd expect. It's it's so

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00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: reasonable and so smart for them to do that, and

574
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: yet at the same time it makes you so sad

575
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: because what we should be doing is fighting fucking head on.

576
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: Is burned this guy to the ground. Yeah that sucks. Yeah. Now,

577
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: over the last decade and change. There have been a

578
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: lot of alterations to the way the Internet works. Google's

579
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: altered their algorithm numerous times to trying to make life

580
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: harder for people like Mike Adams. The rights of social

581
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: media has further changed the landscape, and Mike has had

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00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: to adapt to stay relevant and profitable. Shark. He's like

583
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 1: a shark and the Internet is run entirely on windmills now. Also,

584
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: sharks don't exist the global conspiracy. No, sharks do not exist.

585
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: That's obvious though. I found a great article by the

586
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: McGill Office for Science and Society published in twenty eighteen

587
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: that traced out Mike's online empire at what might have

588
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: been like proved to have been its height. They found

589
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: at least fifty websites owned by him, from natural News

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00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: and other phone news websites like GMO News and Medicine

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00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: News and Vaccine News, to anti left wing sites like

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: Campus Insanity, Libtards dot news and Freedom dot News. There

593
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: were also the predictable prepper websites like Collapse dot News.

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00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: Quote from McGill on clarella factor dot com, a website

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00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: dedicated to an algae sold as a super food. You

596
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: will be scared into thinking every seller of clare Ella

597
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: wants to kill you, except for Adams, who, of course

598
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: wants you to know that his store offers clean clearella,

599
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: even if it means less profit than retailing cheaper, lower

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Speaker 1: quality Clarella. Well, Adams trots out this food sources a

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00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: defense against cancer. The evidence isn't there. On consumer Wellness

602
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: dot org you will find a legit looking portal for

603
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: a nonprofit that funds educational programs. Press releases on the

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00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: website claim that the center annually hands out educational grant

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: stage school children, expectant mothers in school, nutritional programs, and

606
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: low income families. Under board of directors, a single person

607
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: is named Mike Adams. There's an invitation to join our

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00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: advisory board, but no members are listed. The site was

609
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: last updated in two thousand and sixteen that the organization

610
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: was granted tax eximp status in sneaky Yeah now? Was

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00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: that the same year scientology got taxics It's ship It

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00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: actually might have been. It was, Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah,

613
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: it was not that far away now. That report also

614
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: notes that Mike Adams has published a browser tool bar

615
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: designed to keep readers permanently connected to his online empire

616
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: even when they visit other sites. It's really smart. Yeah

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00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. Uh, ok, top smart. Yeah, I hate him.

618
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: I hate him so much, but yeah, I hate him

619
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Speaker 1: even more because I'm like, fun, that's a good idea. Yeah,

620
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: it's a great idea. Now. I didn't download that toolbar

621
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: because I am not willing to have my laptop take

622
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: that bullet for this podcast. But I did some other research.

623
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: For one thing. Mike owns Nature PDA, which allows people

624
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: to look up ailments like ib S and see that

625
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: the healthiest keres or supplements that Mike Adam sells on

626
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: his own stores, and that is coincidental. Yeah, so we're

627
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: we're weird how that works. Now. Mike also has his

628
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: own search engine, which he builds as a replacement to Google. Uh.

629
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: It's called good Gopher. Yeah, good Gopher. Uh. It's billed

630
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: is filtering out corporate propaganda and government disinformation. Um, well

631
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: it's it's not quite what I had expected. So I

632
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: found out about this and that McGill report which notes

633
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: that like searching for the Washington Post doesn't take you

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: to the Washington Post, it sends you to truth WICKI

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Speaker 1: Real Investigations, dot news and disinfo dot news. Um yeah, yeah,

636
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Speaker 1: yeah it So I I tried out good Gopher myself

637
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: just to see what sort of results it gave, and

638
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: I entered in what is my very favorite single word

639
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: search term, which is just the word Hitler and nothing else.

640
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to see where that took us.

641
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: I like it, that's a test. I like, yeah, what,

642
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: let's you see what he's got to say about him.

643
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Speaker 1: If result one on that website is like it was

644
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Speaker 1: Hitler that bad guys, come on, then result three Jordan's

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing. Result one is the Sloan Foundation, which Alfred

646
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Speaker 1: the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation UM on truth Wicki. Result

647
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: two is the I. G. Farben Pharmaceutical Conglomerate on truth Wicki.

648
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Speaker 1: And the result three was a blog called macro Cosmic

649
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Speaker 1: Thinking pot calling the kettle black the vilification of Hitler.

650
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Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah yeah. It's the kind of Nazi propaganda

651
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: that tries to mask itself. Is just correcting their record.

652
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: So it says that, like, you know, Hitler really wanted

653
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: peace with France and England after he invaded Poland they're

654
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: the ones who like pushed for war. Courts secret treaty,

655
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: he invaded a whole country, guys like like anyway. It

656
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: also notes that every side in World War Two used

657
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Speaker 1: labor camps, So really, was the Holocaust so bad? I'm

658
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: starting to come around on this guy. Now, Mike Adams

659
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: didn't write that, but the search engine that he built

660
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: provides that is the third return when you search just

661
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: the word Hitler. So yeah, but I feel like if

662
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: you search just the word Google in his search engine,

663
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: it would come back with like, was Hitler that bade Google?

664
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Speaker 1: I did not. I did not tragically try that one. Um,

665
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: But that's the way it always kind of goes with

666
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: these folks who're like trying to create their own spaces

667
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: because they, like everyone else does this space is so terrible.

668
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: They create things like gab bit shoot and all that.

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00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Then then it's just infested with exactly that sort of

670
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: search result, you know. Yeah, and and fucking Mike Adams

671
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: is the guy who built Google for Nazis. But if

672
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: you want some products that aren't for Nazis, check out

673
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: the products and services that support this podcast and our program. Uh,

674
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: they are not for Nazis. I don't even know what

675
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: ads they are. It might fucking be another coke industry's ad,

676
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: in which case that one kind is but the others

677
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: definitely not products. We're back. Oh boy, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: doing my best with these ad plugs. You guys, you're

679
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Speaker 1: doing here. Yeah, I think you're doing great. That was

680
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: so that was a great hey ad. It was one

681
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Speaker 1: in the first episode. I think you're doing great. Sense Yeah, gold,

682
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Speaker 1: thank you. A lot of people say you shouldn't even

683
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: mention nazis close to making an ad plug, but I

684
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: think that's cowardice now. On June eight, two nineteen, The

685
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: Daily Beast published its first deep dive into natural news

686
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: dot com, the first one from a truly mainstream website.

687
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: The title was the new info Wars is a vitamin

688
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: site predicting the apocalypse. At the start of the article,

689
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: they point out a recent Natural News headline LGBT progressivism herrors.

690
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: Parents want to start physically maiming their own babies to

691
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: slice off all gender organs in the name of progressivism

692
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Speaker 1: and equality. The article is authored by Mike Adams, and

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Speaker 1: in it he writes the next esclaration of this war

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Speaker 1: on biology, will I predict involved parents maiming their newborn

695
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Speaker 1: infants by slicing off their penis and scrowed them shortly

696
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Speaker 1: after birth in order to rid the child of gender inequality.

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Speaker 1: So that why that don't any of these people bring

698
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Speaker 1: up like Barbie Dolls, Barbie and Ken dolls, like they

699
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Speaker 1: didn't have genitals. Why don't any of them bring that

700
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Speaker 1: up into their conspiracy, Like you're trying to normalize the

701
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: idea of not having the genitalia. Why not? Why would

702
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: you do that? I don't know, But why are you

703
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: giving these people free solutions? It's unfortunately something me and

704
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: George and do a lot. Yeah, we tend to give

705
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: punch up to the evils. So that article, as you

706
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: probably guess by the first bit, is not at all

707
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Speaker 1: him reporting on anyone actually suggesting that parents slice their

708
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: children's genitals off, but based on his prediction that parents

709
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: will start doing this because he's a maniac. Do you

710
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: think do you think that when circumcision was a thing

711
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Speaker 1: in in the Jewish community in the in the original tribes,

712
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: like seven thousand years ago, there were some people who

713
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: are like, man, here's what they're gonna do to you. Man,

714
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep your penis on. That's why we gotta

715
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: cut it. Off, like this whole reverse lunacy of conspiracy theories.

716
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Speaker 1: Do you think circumcision is cutting a penis off? I

717
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 1: don't know, did they? Little way that? Very confused, There's

718
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: no way to know. What I will tell you is

719
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: that every protest I've been to, there is one confused

720
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: elderly man walking around with a sign talking about how

721
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: circumcision is evil, regardless about what protest is about. It

722
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: could be a Black Lives Matter march, it could be

723
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: a protest for pot legalization. There's gonna be an old

724
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: guy with a sign about how circumcision is evil, and

725
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: all of them are Joe Biden. Definitely run into advocates

726
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: in my protests. It's always confusing. Yeah, it's just like what, dude,

727
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: come on now. Also The Daily I should note that

728
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Speaker 1: The Daily Beast pointed out the article was punctuated by

729
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: a mid page sales pitch for organic broccoli sprout capsules. Okay, okay,

730
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, I sell that ship. Gotta sell that ship.

731
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: I could use a broccoli yeah, in pelform, the best

732
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: form for all medication. One day after the publication of

733
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Speaker 1: this article, the Beat Daily Beast article, which is really

734
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: quite good. Facebook band Natural News from their platform. This

735
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: followed bands from Google News, Apple, YouTube, Pinterest, and Twitter.

736
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Speaker 1: The band from Facebook came last, probably because Facebook is garbage,

737
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: but it is probably the band that will hurt Mike

738
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: the most. After being banned, Mike took to right wing

739
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: news site Gateway Pundit to claim that he was the

740
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: victim of a vast and sinister conspiracy. The title of

741
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: that article was tag team tech terrorism. Facebook deletes conservative

742
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: leaning Natural News after Daily Beast publisher is horribly sourced

743
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: junk hit piece. According to Natural News founder Mike Adams,

744
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: the hit piece was so wildly inaccurate and horribly researched.

745
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: The details they published were so ridiculously fabricated that I've

746
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: never even heard of many of the accusations before. They

747
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: reported on actions by a previous owner several years ago.

748
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: Are nonprofit publishers public reports. I've never even taken a

749
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: salary from a nonprofit. They go on to note, it

750
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: certainly appears once again that liberal publishers are working with

751
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: Facebook to eliminate conservative voices online. Mike Adams added, it's

752
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: clearly coordinated. The timing was irrefutable. It's tag team rico terrorism.

753
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: I love the phrase tag team Rico terrorism, because what

754
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: does that mean? Ricos? So it's two Ricos. One of

755
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: them is outside the ring, the other ones inside the ring. Okay, okay,

756
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: So when you're in the middle of case, you get

757
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: tagged out and there's a new judge who comes in.

758
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: Like if that like one Rico gets exhausted, they can

759
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Speaker 1: go to the side of the ring, and Rico just

760
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: gets tired. You can't, you know, your honor, I just,

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00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: I just I gotta take a break. I gotta take

762
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: a break your honor. We're gonna Yeah, you thought we

763
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: were done racketeering. Here's that. Yeah, that whole thing of

764
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: like people like they're tag teaming me. It's like that

765
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: in terms of wrestling rules, that's not really that much

766
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: of a difference than you're just fighting one guy. Like

767
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: if the other guy's tax you, then it's a disqualification

768
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: according to the rules. But when like a group of

769
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: people complains about you being dangerous for half a decade

770
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: and nothing is done and finally a major news site

771
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: writes an article about you, and then Facebook caves that's

772
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: not tag teaming. No, that's chickens coming home to roost. Yeah, yeah,

773
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: pickens coming home to Russ and also chicken shit behavior

774
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: on behalf of Facebook Now. After talking to Gateway pundit

775
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: Mike Next posted an angry response on Natural News, calling

776
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: himself the victim of a smear campaign by techno fascists.

777
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: He unveiled a new graph which I should have sent

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00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: you guys, but didn't. It's just and yellow text at

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Speaker 1: the stop at the top it says enemies of humanity

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00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: then and it lists Adolph Hitler, Banita Mussolini, Joseph Stalin,

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Speaker 1: pol Pot, mousey Dung, and has all their pictures and

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Speaker 1: then underneath them and underneath the word now it has

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Speaker 1: underneath Adolph Hitler, Mark Zuckerberg, underneath Banita Mussolini, Jack Dorsey

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Speaker 1: of Twitter, underneath Joseph Stalin, Jeff Bezos, Yeah, underneath pol Pot,

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00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: Sundar Pacha. I we we're really running down the list quick.

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Speaker 1: And underneath mousey dung, Tim Cook from Apple Tim Cook,

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00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: and underneath Tim Cook is Nikolai Cho. For some reason

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00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: imagining this as a graph, I I I love it's

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Speaker 1: an infographic. I'd say I love comparing Jack Dorsey to

790
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Speaker 1: Benito Mussolini, because that one kind of kind of kind

791
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: of work kind here that kind of spot the funk on. UH.

792
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Speaker 1: A few days after this, Mike went on Info Wars

793
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: and talked to Alex Jones about his fears that Congolese

794
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: refugees at the border would be a bring a bola

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00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: into the United States. Yeah, we talked about that. We've, we've,

796
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: we've I have seamlessly sailed us into familiar waters to

797
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: drop you guys back off at your comfortable home. Um,

798
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: because I am a great captain. In this article or

799
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Speaker 1: in this episode, uh, Mike Adams accused these fleeing people

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Speaker 1: of being essentially a bioweapon, which is about a quarter

801
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: inch away for literal Nazi propaganda in the twenties and

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Speaker 1: thirties and how it represented Jewish refugees fleeing the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 1: He didn't essentially call them a bio weapon. He literally,

804
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: he straight up called them a bio weapon. Um. So

805
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: the guy who posted a recipe including drink some of

806
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: boll of virus called other people of viral bio weapon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So it's him putting up an infographic that

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00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: says enemies of humanity and like sites the greatest dictators

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00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: in history as monsters. Is humorous to me for that

810
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: because he's basically making Nazi propaganda and also made Nazi google. Um.

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Speaker 1: But it's also a little bit I don't know. Humorous

812
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: is the wrong word to me. Uh, Mike Adams is

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Speaker 1: a war crimes denier. Is a Syrian war crimes denier.

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00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the lead that I was awkwardly getting to. Uh.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand seventeen, after a chemical weapons attacked by

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Speaker 1: Charles Sad and Syrian civilians might quote it, a piece

817
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: of President Trump's addressed in a Natural News column, Assad

818
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: choked out the lives of innocent men and children. Was

819
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: a slow and brutal death for so many. Even beautiful

820
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No

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Speaker 1: child of God should ever suffer such horror. That was

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Speaker 1: President Trump, And after quoting this, Mike Adams wrote, if

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Speaker 1: you replace the word Assad with c DC or the

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00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: vaccine industry, it all makes even more sense. Lastly, higher

825
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: numbers of children right here in America have been cruelly

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Speaker 1: murdered in the barbaric attack of toxic vaccines than have

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Speaker 1: ever been killed by chemical weapons in Syria. Ah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta give it to a guy who swings for

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Speaker 1: the fences. Yeah, Casey is at the bat. Yeah, Casey is.

830
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Speaker 1: Casey is eating the bat in order to gain its powers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk that is. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: fuck you and Mike Adams. That's that's the whole that's

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Speaker 1: all I've got. That's the whole fucking episode. Yeah, he does.

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Speaker 1: He does suck tremendously. He's a He's a real piece

835
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Speaker 1: of shit. It's so weird that like so much of

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Speaker 1: his uh like the the actual like career damage that

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00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: he's done so much of that, like perpetuating the anti

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00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: vax dangerous health ideas, and then somehow has pivoted into

839
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: the like worst political ideas too. It's own both of

840
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: those spaces. So like, seriously, they dove tell so well

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Speaker 1: into each other. Though, Like if you're and and it's

842
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Speaker 1: easy to use relative intelligence kind of words for it,

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Speaker 1: But if you're susceptible to the kind of right wing

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Speaker 1: rhetoric that gets you to hate random immigrants that you've

845
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Speaker 1: never met, that you have no concept of, why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you be at the same time be susceptible to buying

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Speaker 1: pills that have cures for diseases that you've never heard

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00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: of her problems that you've never considered. You know, it's

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00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: it's the it's the same kind of a short circuit

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00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: in your brain that allows you to believe in both

851
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: of those things so easily. Yeah, And I do want

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Speaker 1: to return before we roll out to the kind of

853
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: question that I've been wondering throughout this research process, which

854
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: is like, why didn't anyone know about this guy until recently?

855
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: Like why didn't he get more attention while he was

856
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: doing all this? And I wonder if some of it's

857
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: just that, like if you watch him actually speak or

858
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: watch his videos, Like I came across a bunch of

859
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Speaker 1: his videos that I was going to include in this

860
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Speaker 1: because they had crazy titles about vaccine denial. He's so

861
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: fucking boring. Yeah, Like when he actually talks, he's so

862
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: fucking boring. He is the blandest man in the world. Yeah.

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00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: But then when we go back to that idea of

864
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: like I want to trick people and thinking I'm poorer

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Speaker 1: than I am, Yeah, that that boringness is kind of

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Speaker 1: a self defense And speaking for myself as someone who's

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Speaker 1: listened to thousands of hours of Alex's show, like I've

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Speaker 1: run into him, like co hosting the show often, and

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Speaker 1: whenever I do, I'm like off, Like, I'm sure that

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00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: I could be more upset by him before. Um at

871
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Speaker 1: this point, had I've actually listened to the episodes the hosts,

872
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: but I just get five minutes in, Like, I'm not

873
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: interested in you. I'm trying to learn about Alex. You're

874
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: so goddamn boring, I think self defense. Yeah, and not

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00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: just that, but his is a career built entirely upon

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Speaker 1: s e O, like, entirely upon keywords just so him

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00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: speaking behind the scene exactly, So him speaking would be

878
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: boring because he's not creating his search words while he's speaking.

879
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: He can't extemporaneously do that, and so he doesn't get

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00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: any real traction from it. Fucking A. Yeah, I think

881
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: he's uh. I think he flies under the radar really well. Yeah,

882
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: well he has until Yeah, I mean he he definitely

883
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: did for a lot longer than Alex Jones. And I

884
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: think my nickname for him might be smart Alex Jones, yeah,

885
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: because that's essentially they had the same career path. He

886
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: just was smart enough and like I guess not quite

887
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: as narcissistic because he didn't need to put himself out

888
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: in front of things as often, and as a result,

889
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: he made way more money and hasn't been sued by people. Yeah,

890
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: so hopefully he will though, Yeah he should be. Yeah,

891
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: when you're when you at least have a good thirty

892
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: or steak and a lot of people dyeing of preventable diseases,

893
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: it feels like you should have some sort of karmic

894
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: reckoning coming somewhere along the line. And he openly doesn't

895
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: give a shit about karma, So there's that. Yeah, I

896
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: mean karmen Karma doesn't pay the fucking bills. Jordan's don't

897
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: pay You're you're telling the choir here on this. You

898
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: know what you know what pays the bills is vaccine zombie. Yes,

899
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: the ads do pay the bills. In my case, I

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00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: thought that was an amazing ad pivot there. No, no,

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00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, my karma is terrible, but it's because of

902
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: that cemetery. We don't need to get into that. Um

903
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: do you think he's ever made money off that rep song?

904
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: Do you think he's made a cent off that? God?

905
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Speaker 1: I don't know. The site says it only has twenty

906
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: six views, which can't be so what weird twelve of them? Yeah,

907
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: that that can't be accurate because it also it hasn't

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00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: changed since I viewed it multiple times. I think they've

909
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:21,959
Speaker 1: view counter is just broken. Yeah, like I The first

910
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: comment on it is somewhere I just scrolled down to

911
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: the comments. The first comment is someone who's used her

912
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: name is the word liars, and it says that's so

913
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: good that guy has been on the internet from the beginning.

914
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: If his his name is liars, that's amazing. Oh dear

915
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Speaker 1: Sweet Jesus. Alright, guys, I'm exhausted. This is the episode

916
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Speaker 1: plug your plug doubles. Um. We have all podcasts called

917
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Speaker 1: Knowledge Fights. It's all about Alex Jones, and we put

918
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: out episodes three times a week Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays.

919
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: People find us on iTunes, our websites, knowledge fight dot Com. Indeed,

920
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: we're at Knowledge Underscore Fight on Twitter and I'm at

921
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 1: go to bed Jordan's and uh, Twitter is chocolate full

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00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: of vaccine denial. Yeah, now that doesn't sound right. That

923
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. But yeah, and I will be hosting

924
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: Zany's in Old Town the entire month of July, so

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Speaker 1: if you want to come down and say hi, that'd

926
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: be great, and uh yeah, I am. I. I have

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Speaker 1: no uh anti vaccine content on my Twitter, but neither

928
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: ship post a lot about Nazis on it. So if

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Speaker 1: you want if some of that, you can go to

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00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: I right okay on Twitter. You can find this podcast

931
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: on the internet behind the Bastards dot com. You can

932
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: buy a t shirt off of t public dot com.

933
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Just look us up. You know what the name of

934
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: this podcast is because you listen to it, and please

935
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: do check out Knowledge Fight. It's my favorite podcast for

936
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: bench pressing towards. It fuels me with the anger that

937
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I need to to get that last couple of reps in.

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Speaker 1: So I I appreciate it. But at well, we only

939
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: pray that you're never trying to set a record. Well

940
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: we accidentally make a really funny line and you choke

941
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: yourself out with a dumb beelt. We pray that never happens.

942
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: That is the gamble that I take every time. But

943
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta stay alive, you gotta stay feeling alive.

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm a gambling man, and now, in true Alex Jones form,

945
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm just going to start playing uh the Gambler and

946
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: singing along to it loudly the nanny that you will

947
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: listen little in joke for people who are up on

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Speaker 1: their aj knowledge there. Thank you so much for being

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Speaker 1: my guest today. Uh and thank all of you for listening.

950
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: The fucking podcast is over. Go do something good with

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Speaker 1: your lives.