1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Hello then, and welcome to save her protection of I 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: her radio and stuff media. I'm Annis and I'm Lauren 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: voc Obam, and today we're talking about salad, and I'm 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: very excited to talk about salad. I don't know why 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: you said it like that they should be coffetti cannons 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: going off. Do you still have those confetti cannons? Okay, 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: well perfect, I have multiple coffetti cannons that I discovered 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: when I moved desk in our office. Manager looked at 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: me and was like, oh, and I just kind of strucked, 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, just sometimes you have confetti cannons at 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: your desk, you never know, And sometimes you have salads 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: at your desk. I do. It's actually a running joke 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Ramsey and Paul have made. You might have heard them. 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: They make jokes about my saladating habit in a in 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: a good natured way. I have salad probably every day. Man. Yeah, 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I had saldi yesterday, tomorrow, I had some today, but 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: because like we had catered lunch and there was like 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: salad stuff there, so I kind of made my own. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: That's a very exciting salad at oh man. And also 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: like I was having a crunchy salad, craving so hard 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: for saring this research, you wouldn't think that. I don't know, 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: I do crave like the crunch of salads. I mean, 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: there's a good salad is so good. I've had many 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: sad salads, oh yes, and those are very sad. Yes, 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm One of my favorite things that we ate while 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: we were in Hawaii was a salad from Piggy Smalls. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: It was really heck and good salad. That was a 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: good salad, very crunchy. Yeah, Um, I just did. Uh so, 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I I love salads for for like ever. When I 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: was in elementary school, middle school, I made salad that 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: brought them to school. Um and over on stuff. When 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: we told you that the other show I Do, we 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: just an episode on salads and particularly sad sexist salads. 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: Like why is it that when you search women, one 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: of the first images that comes up there's a woman. Yeah, 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: pictures of of these nice model ladies who are alone 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: and they have a salad and they are laughing as 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: though it is the best experience they have ever had. 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: They're having the time of their lives eating that salad 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: by themselves. Women laughing alone with salad yeah, yes, and 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: that is a thing that you can look up. Um. 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know, just a collection of pictures. Um, 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: and it's when you see them all together. Oh yeah, yeah. 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: You don't realize how pervasive of a stock image it 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: is until you go like, oh, yeah, and I accidentally 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: took one of these pictures because I had a salad 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: and somebody told me a joke and I was on 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: the beach, and then somebody else just took a picture 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: right at the perfect moment and it looks like pictures. 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't a salad. And then you know what you 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't see is almost choked to death after that because 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: the leaves laughing. Yeah, it's dangerous. It is dangerous. Salads 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: do have a bit of a not a great reputation, 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: I suppose. Yeah. Um, I almost feel like I need 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to I almost felt a minute ago like I needed 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: to apologize for saying that I crave salad. Yeah, because 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: it's not like a cool thing classically hasn't been and 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: when I eat one, and we'll go into this in 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: a little bit, I feel like there's a judgment of, oh, 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: look at that lady eating salad. She's worried about her 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: figure right. Um. But this is like in our pop 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: culture as well, because again with the Seinfeld references, there's 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: an episode when Jay orders quote, just a salad, and 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: his date and the waiter react like he is a monster, 65 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: and it keeps him up at night. He hears himself 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: ordering justice a salad, um, and the just says a lot, right, 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to have a meal, just a salad, yep. 68 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: And then there's the Homer Simpson quote you don't win 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: friends with salad, at least so you don't when friends 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: of salad, and then Bart starts the little the little 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: Congo line, you don't win friends with salad. Yeah, anytime, anytime. 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: I always knew I could count on you. And then 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: right before we did this, we went a very ill 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: timed mini rabbit hole of salad Fingers, which, if you 75 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: do not recall, was a mid two thousand's pop culture 76 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: flash animation YouTube phenomenon. Very upsetting, uh just weird, dark 77 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: comedy and creepy and yeah, bad mindset to go into 78 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: for I kind of had to. We've been talking about 79 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Mr Rogers before that for hex sake. I don't know 80 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: how we anyway, Salad Fingers look it up at your 81 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: own risk. Parents advisory warning for your children. I remember 82 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: sitting in my college dorm and we were all grouped 83 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: around the computer just watching that. We I think we 84 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: all wanted to leave, but we go didn't. You're riveted 85 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: and you don't know why. Yeah, anyway, there's a going 86 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: on with the salad, So yeah we should. We should 87 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: get in to the episode and to our questions. Yes, salads, 88 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: what are they? Well? Um, okay, salad can mean a 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: lot of things, but what we're talking about here today 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: mainly are green salads, a dishes composed with a base 91 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: of raw leafy greens, usually dressed with some kind of 92 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: liquid flavoring mix um and uh, and then any any 93 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: number of additional vegetables and or proteins, which themselves maybe 94 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: raw or cooked. Yes, and there are a million types 95 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: of salads, some of which will go on many deep dives. 96 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: On many deep dive we'll talk about a little more 97 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: in depth. And there's definitely some confusion around what is 98 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: a side. Um, jello salads, potato salads, pasta salads. One 99 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: of the very first emails we got back when we 100 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: were food stuff was someone asking what the heck is 101 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: a salad anyway, and I was like, I don't know, 102 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. The mix of stuff it is, um, 103 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, there are specific types of salads with fun 104 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: origin stories like the cob of the Caesar, the Nicklas Nissas, 105 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: excuse me, greek. Um. So it's a lot it is, 106 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: but yes, this episode mostly yeah um. And by themselves, 107 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: nutritionally speaking, leafy greens are indeed good for you. A 108 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: lots calcium, smattering of other minerals, of vitamins A and C, 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: lots of water and fiber fill up real good um, 110 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: although they are best when they're paired with some proteins 111 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: and fats to kind of round them out. Yeah. Um. 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: And the greener the better. By the way, iceberg lettuce 113 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: has less than a third of some nutrients than leaf 114 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: lettuce contains. Oh yes, and we'll talk about it very briefly, 115 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: but iceberg lettuce is very divisive. It is. And I 116 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: have a friend who every time she sees me eating it, 117 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: goes on a crusade about how it's like not worth 118 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: the nutrients and why are you wasting your time eating 119 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: now like crunchy, it can be good. Yeah, a good 120 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: wedge salad, oh man. Um. But speaking of a good 121 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: wedge salad which is usually drenched in blue cheese and 122 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: ranch and whatever. Um. Okay, So yes, the nutrition of salads, 123 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it can vary so widely. Yeah. I think 124 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: we've talked on the show before about like the day 125 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: we each realized separately how high calorie and high fat 126 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: salad dressings can be, and how like world shattering it 127 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: was paradigm shifting. Yeah. For me, it was when I 128 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: looked up the nutrition info about a McDonald's salad and 129 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: realized it had more fat than a burger like way 130 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: less good for you in that term a burger m 131 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: and manufacturers are getting more savvy about that as consumer 132 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and government interest in reducing bad fats has has been 133 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: on an upswing for the past couple of decades. McDonald's 134 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: has since revamped their salads and uses lighter dressings, but 135 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: there as everywhere. I mean, you know, just use use 136 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: common sense, like if it's well it has fried chicken 137 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: or bacon, or a ton of cheese, or a hydrogenated 138 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: oil based dressing or a really highly sugar based dressing 139 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: on top of it, that makes a difference. And I 140 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: know that sounds kind of like dub but like a 141 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: like a thing that I've definitely had to do in 142 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: these are modern times of processed convenience foods and and 143 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: eating out is to try to really think about how 144 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I think about foods. Yeah, like uh like, if I 145 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: want a piece of fried chicken on a salad, that's okay, 146 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: just like think of it as fried chicken with some 147 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: salad um, you know. And and the dressing could have 148 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: as much sugar as a bread bun. Definitely could. Because 149 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: of salad's reputation as a health food, a lot of 150 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: marketing goes into positioning salads as healthier choices than other 151 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: menu items, and sometimes they just aren't. And for your 152 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: money and dietary wants and needs, you could be making 153 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a better choice. More on that later. I'll get off 154 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: the soapbox now. It's an important soapbox. It is marketing 155 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: um and a no about the potential danger of salads. 156 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Salad danger because green salads are served with at least 157 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: some raw vegetables. Um. They're more of a food safety 158 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: concern than cooked foods because cooking tends to kill most 159 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: of the germs that would make you sick, and salad 160 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: greens are often sold pre cut and washed, which is 161 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: sometimes effective but sometimes just adds more opportunities for the 162 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: introduction of infectious microbes. Um from the CDC found that 163 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: leafy vegetables caused the most food born illnesses in the 164 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: United States, not the most deaths that was contaminated poultry. 165 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: But but yeah, that that doesn't mean don't eat salads. 166 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Just maybe take the extra time to chop your own 167 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: salads to be on the safe side. Or if you 168 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: cannot quit bagged salads, uh, make sure that you keep 169 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: them chilled and eat them as far away from the 170 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: use by date as possible as soon as possible. Yeah, 171 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: and maybe be a little bit picky about where you 172 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: eat your salads, like if you don't trust a restaurant's kitchen, 173 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: like order something that see some heat. I feel like 174 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: when I vice out at grocery store these days, people 175 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: look at me eskew. Does she know she's risking her health? 176 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: There was that recent e collection, right, so I know, 177 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: and I still continue. So maybe they're right to look 178 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: at me askew. I don't know, or or it's just 179 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: that sex something They're like, oh, that lady with her salad. 180 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it could be multiple things. It could be 181 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: a cross section of many judgments, or they're just looking 182 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: and you happen to be Yeah, the spotlight effect. Don't 183 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: you judge me? And they're like, who are you? I'm 184 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: trying to get over there there, like I'm thinking about 185 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: raisins and then I judge them. No, I don't find reasons, 186 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: but I know a lot of people don't like him. 187 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm neutral. I'm raising neutral. Also, regarding the health of salads, 188 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,119 Speaker 1: ru vegetable can be harder to digest than cooked vegetables, 189 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: which can lead to some gasiness. So if you're starting 190 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: to incorporate more salads into your diet and you find 191 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: this happening, try try limiting the raw vegetable involved to 192 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: like ten of your daily uh dietary intake, like like 193 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: a cup and a half to two cups of salad 194 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: like twelve to sixty announces. This is really interesting because 195 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: we recently talked about on our Lobster episode how lobsters 196 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: are terrible date food. Yeah, yeah, and over on spenty 197 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: we were talking about how like the stereotype is on 198 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: a date, the dude orders a steak, the woman orders 199 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: the salad, And a lot of my friends have told 200 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: me they do that because they won't get bloated. And 201 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: then when I said that on the show, the cost 202 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: was like what what so interesting? Uh? Stuff to take 203 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: on other things to think on numbers, salad numbers. According 204 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: one report published, the salad restaurant industry was pulling in 205 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: about three hundred million dollars a year, and a lot 206 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: of other numbers show that the industry is experiencing a 207 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: lot of growth. How I her salads are not universally popular. 208 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps that goes without saying. McDonald's told their investors that 209 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: salads only make up two to three of their sales 210 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: and advised franchises not to Uh, it's been too much 211 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: advertising salads. Huh. Popular chain Sweet Green says that of 212 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: their orders come through their app. Wow, they have a 213 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: specific app. They have a specific app. I know. That 214 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: blows my mind. I have I know people who have 215 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: apps for like I I'm a person of few apps, 216 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: So it blows my mind somebody would have this app, 217 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: the specific app. Yeah, people go there like every day. Wow, 218 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean like the same person like, of course, people 219 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: go to that restaurant every day every day. Branches um 220 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: here in the United States, May is national salad month. 221 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Grocery store bagged salads account for about a three billion 222 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: dollars as about US households reported by buying badge salads regularly. 223 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: And there are all kinds of salad, specially shops with 224 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: a variety of pun names. Let us surprise you comes 225 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: to mind. I feel like you've spoken about that one before. 226 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't approve Lauren is shaking her head. Salad bars 227 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: at restaurants, some of them with a hilarious spread of 228 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: topics that make me go, this is not a this 229 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: is a dinner now, and let me get some chicken 230 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: and steak. But thank you, but this, but this, this 231 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: is no longer justice. This is ridiculous. The average American 232 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: eight two point one pounds of leafy greens. Mhmm. And 233 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: then there's this from Jim Gafkin's book Food, a Love Story. 234 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: When someone orders a salad at lunch, it's presented as 235 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: the decision of a martyr giving up their happiness to 236 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: the waiter. I'll just have the salad, the just I 237 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: never feel like that when I order a salad. No, 238 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: I'm usually pretty excited. Sometimes, you know, there's not a 239 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: lot of options, and it's the salad is like sad then, yes, 240 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: but generally I'm very excited. Yeah about swords, I don't know. Well, 241 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: what we do know is some salad history. We do, 242 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: and we also know that we have to first take 243 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and 244 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. It's hard 245 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: to say when the first human ate the first salad. Yes, 246 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: but ancient Romans were the ones who really made the 247 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: salad popular. Thing that we know about uncooked leafy vegetables, oil, salt. 248 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: If you remember our episode on salt, the Latin word 249 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: for salt is salt, and that's the basis of where 250 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: the word salad comes from. Yes, yes, the the Latin 251 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: salata meeting kind of salted things. The scientific word for lettuce, 252 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: like tuca, come from the Latin wore lack, meaning milk, 253 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: and that's a reference to the milk like juice that 254 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: comes from cut lettuce. Yeah, and oh man, we have 255 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: got to do an episode un lettuce. I had to 256 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: stop myself from so many lettuce rabbit holes. That's kind 257 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: of a thing anyway. Um. Yeah, but green salads really 258 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: are a European thing, like leafy greens were abundant in 259 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: other cuisines around the world, but mostly cooked or pickled, 260 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: or at least blanched like an ancient China. Uncooked greens 261 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: were considered unsafe to eat, and no, Chinese chicken salad 262 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: is not Chinese, It's from nine sixties America. So surprised. Nah, yes, no. 263 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Aristotle wrote that it was better to eat vegetables before 264 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: a meal. Hippocrates and Galan agreed, believing it helped with digestion. 265 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Others clapped back and said it should definitely be after. 266 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: You should definitely have the vegetables after a meal. Many 267 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: of those were chefs who believed the vinegar and a 268 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: lot of salad dressings made wine taste awful. Okay, Still, 269 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: others believe the dish would help you sleep and promoted 270 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: eating it before bed, and the great salad debate begins. 271 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: Although Yeah, in ancient Rome, I think it was practiced 272 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: to have like a salad before dinner in order to 273 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: stimulate digestion, and another after dinner to help sleep. Salad 274 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: courses what I know, I remember. I feel like this 275 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: comes up a weird amount, but when I was in 276 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: French class in high school, there was a section in 277 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: our French book, our textbook that said here in America 278 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: we would like to have us. That was before into 279 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: France they like to have I'm at the end believing 280 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: it helps indoors. And it really stuck with me, And 281 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: it was the whole thing of like, are the French 282 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: doing it better anyone from France? Right, that's really the case. 283 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I've eaten in France. I just don't recall. 284 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever had a salad course. Huh well, anyway, 285 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: right in question, going back to that sleeping thing, wild 286 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: lettuce of yielden days did have chemical properties that might 287 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: have actually you down for the night. Physicians would recommend 288 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: dried balls of that lettuce milk juice, which is kind 289 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: of like latex for insomnia in Europe and Colonial America, 290 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: and hospitals used it as sedative all the way up 291 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: to World War Two. Oh, I'd love to get into 292 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: that one day. But here's something else I really want 293 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: to talk about. Lettuce was also viewed as a wait 294 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: for it, anti aphrodesiac, and we've never had one of 295 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: those before, have we? No, Wow, our first anti aphrodisiac. 296 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: I want like a trophy or something. Very excited Yeah, 297 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: let us deserves a trophy for this, for sure, it 298 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: does lettuce trophies. Um. This may have been wrapped up 299 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: in Greek mythology. Aphrodite's lover Adonis was killed in a 300 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: bed of lettuce. Oh, dear by wild boar that was 301 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: sent by someone I did sources disagree m m m 302 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: m m m m m m m m. Ancient Greeks 303 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: thought it might lead to impotence as well, and first 304 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: century c. Physician do you s Curiety has described it 305 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: for lonely enlisted soldiers who might be wrestling with what 306 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: he called libidinous images. Ah, eat some salad. He eat 307 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: some salad, Fix you right up. The poet Virgil wrote 308 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: about a salad with vinegar, cheese, and herbs and plenty 309 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: of The Elder wrote about salads in natural history, saying 310 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: that back when people kept more home gardens quote, the 311 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: products of gardens were most approved for. They are always 312 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: ready to use and speedily prepared. They require no fire, 313 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: and therefore fuel is economized. That's they were called asteria. 314 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: They are easily served up. Besides light, they are of digestion. 315 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: They breed no heaviness in the head. They offend not 316 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: the brain, nor any of the sense they offend, not 317 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: the brain. It's a relatively colorful translation. I love it. 318 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, Aceteria was the word for plants used in salads, 319 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: and to this day you might hear salad greens referred 320 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: to as asterius green. It comes from the word for vinegar, 321 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: so it meant something like like plants that you would 322 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: apply vinegar to. Okay. Also, some Oregona flavored olive oil, 323 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: thought to be a salad dressing, was discovered on a 324 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: shipwreck about two thousand, four hundred years old. Yeah, shipwreck 325 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: episode coming. Yes. After the Roman Empire fell, European salad 326 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: consumption fell with it. It wasn't until the Middle Ages 327 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: that salad started to make a comeback, a mixture of vegetables, flowers, 328 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: and herbs. As the Renaissance began, so did the salad experimentation. Yeah, 329 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: sometime between like the fourteen and seventeen hundreds. I know, 330 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: that's a wide range mysteries. History um a category of 331 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: dishes called salmagundy came into fashion, chopped ingredients arranged artfully, 332 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: sometimes over beds of greens. This would develop into French 333 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: composed salads, which the Larus gastronomy let's three full pages 334 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: of ho um and uh. Those then developed into the 335 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: stuff the American chef's salad cops salad. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. 336 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: It said that a dean of Saint Paul's Cathedral once 337 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: said that a salad artistically prepared quote would tempt a 338 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: dying anchronite to eat anchronite being a religious hermit, religious hermit. Okay, 339 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: this was the time of the Grand salad. Dozens of ingredients, arrangements, figs, potatoes, 340 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: pickt oysters, raisins, crucifix peace. I didn't have time to 341 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: look into it, but it was a list on the list. 342 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: In Shakespeare first used the phrase salad days, Yes, my 343 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: salad days when I was green. In Judgment that's from 344 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Anthony and Cleopatra, Cleo is talking about hooking up with 345 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: Julius Caesar when she was young and perhaps a little 346 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: bit silly. In British author John Evelyn's Asteria, A Discourse 347 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: of Salads, What a title. I bet it was a 348 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: real page turner, Um came with this quote. Salad is 349 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: a particular composition of certain crude and fresh herbs, such 350 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: as usually are or may safely be eaten with some 351 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: ascetus juice, oil, salt, mysterious, etcetera. To give them a 352 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: grateful gust and a vehicle. And he wrote that salads 353 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: were beneficial influences on morals, temperance, and chastity. He listed 354 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: seventy three possible ingredients for salads. Oh wow um. And 355 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: this was not usually meant to be a book, but 356 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: a chapter in a book Evelyn never completed. It was 357 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: also meant to promote a vegetarian lifestyle. Yeah, he was 358 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: working on this kind of like encyclopedia of sorts um. 359 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: And he did write a lot about the benefits of 360 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: eating raw greens and mostly vegetables. He said, people who 361 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: to this day living on herbs and roots arrived to 362 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: incredible age, in constant health and vigor um. And he did, 363 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: to be fair, lived to the age of five. Good 364 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: for him, especially at that time, I imagine. And he 365 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: believed that a good salad dresser needed a certain set 366 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: of skills, mainly know how of how to mix oils 367 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: and vinegars and good proportion. Yeah. Around this time, salads, 368 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: especially made for the wealthy, would have been carefully balanced 369 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: according to the humors. A person's supposed constitution of hot 370 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: and cold, along with whatever was going on with the weather. 371 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, this brings us to slaw. I guess 372 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: for the of a salad mission. I have never ever 373 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: thought of that as a salad, but when I was 374 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: looking at the south timeline, it's on there. Um it is, 375 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: I guess. The cabbage salad first appeared in a Dutch 376 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: cookbook in seventeen seventy. Towards the end of the nineteenth century, 377 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: a temperance leader by the name of doctor Dio Lewis 378 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: came out against salad dressing for being too sinfully tasty. 379 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: Dam watch out for those salad dressings. Probably actually probably 380 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: not for moral reasons. Gosh. During the nineteenth centuries, salads 381 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: were seen as a rich people's food. Yeah, before refrigeration 382 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: and fast transport entered the scene, and as industrialization was 383 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: pushing more people into city salad greens where a thing 384 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: that you would either eat because you lived in a 385 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: place that grew them, like in your own farm or 386 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: garden or otherwise quite local um, or because you had 387 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of money to spend on the super 388 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: perishable product. Most people throughout history would have probably preserved 389 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: most of their vege by pickling or eventually canning it. Yeah, 390 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: then we get to the first fruit salad that we 391 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: know of, fruit with whipped cream um. In eighteen sixty one. 392 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: A couple of years later, the meter d at Waldorf 393 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: Astoria came up with the recipe for the Waldorf salad 394 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: apple mayo, celery and walnut. Remember the first time I 395 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: had that was when I was in college. What is 396 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: this thing? I'll try it? Okay? Interesting? Sometime around eighteen 397 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: sixty three, either in a Rhode Island meat market or 398 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: a Russian court or neither, we get the first chicken salad. 399 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: In eighteen sixty four, Andrew Kerwin's Host and Guest, a 400 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: book about dinners, dinner giving, wines and Desserts, claims that 401 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: to be a salad dresser took a quote patient and 402 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: discreet men or a painstaking and careful men are a woman, 403 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: and at the time usually they were also frenchay. Yes. 404 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: One of the most famous salad dressers was a French 405 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: Emmy Gray Darby Knuck. According to legend, he was eating 406 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: alone at a London tavern when a neighboring table of 407 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: will to don will, family been or something realized he 408 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: was French, and they asked if he would do them 409 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: the honor of dressing their salad, and he did so. 410 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: And then the request for the so called fashionable salad 411 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: dresser come rolling in. Aristocracy all over wanted him to 412 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: come dress their salads. He showed up at their door 413 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: with a mahogany case of ingredients like caviard shuffle, soy egg, yoaks, vinakers, 414 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: and oils. He made a fortune doing this. He was 415 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: able to retire doing this. Wow, we apparently need to 416 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: do an episode about salad dressers. I would love to. 417 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: I didn't know this was a thing, and I'm fascinated 418 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: by it. It's great. Americans started to get into salad's 419 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: after the Civil War, and the first known recipe for 420 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: Ambrosian salad, which is a Southern holiday edition. Uh, kind 421 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: of like a fruit mixture thing, popped up in an 422 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty seven book Tiled Dixie Cookery or How I 423 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: Managed My Table for twelve years. Yeah. Yeah, fruit and 424 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: usually some kind of cream, creamy element. I would love 425 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: to see an episode on ambrosia because I feel like 426 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: for our family it's um. I think for most people 427 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: it is, there's some kind of creamy thing, But for 428 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: us it's just like literally fruit soup. It's orange juice 429 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: and pineapple juice. Ye, anyway, in anyway. In four and 430 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: Mrs Lincoln's Boston cookbook What to Do and What Not 431 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: to Do in Cooking, the author wrote about the dressing 432 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: of salad quote Surely no lady who has a hand 433 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: and knows how to use it, definitely and gracefully would 434 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: be willing to relinquish this most fascinating part of the 435 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: their service. Okay, very fascinating, I'm sure. In Laura Shapira's 436 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: book Perfection, salad Um, she talks about a salad had 437 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: another resurgence in the twentieth century, when Americans and mainly women, 438 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: were really into home mack and intricate, decorative foods that 439 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: were typically associated with luxury and the rich another way 440 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: of showing off. They were also these salads coated as 441 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: feminine from Shapiro quote. Despite the often hefty ingredients that 442 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: were assembled in its name, the salad course never lost 443 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: its original image as a fragile, leafy interlude that was 444 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: something of a nutritional frill. Salads were perceived as ladies food, 445 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: reflecting the image of frailty attached to the women who 446 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: made them. Yeah, and there is some fascinating research out 447 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: there that shows healthier food, or food that at least 448 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: is perceived as healthier, because, as we said, sales don't 449 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: necessarily have to be healthier. These things are seen as 450 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: feminine and they are believed to taste worse in America anyway, 451 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: not true in every country. Yeah, yeah, I think in 452 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: in France it slept right recently. Um, when given the 453 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: same intimates blueberry muffins, one with masculine packaging and the 454 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: other with a feminine packaging, claiming like healthier. Um, a 455 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: majority of participants reported the one with the masculine packaging 456 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: as the better tasting. Fun humans and then, of course, 457 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: the pressure for women to be thin has frequently led 458 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: them to choose salads as an acceptable thing for them 459 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: to eat in public, despite the fear we all have 460 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: of getting salad stuck in your teeth. Oh yeah. I 461 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: never feel like less of a human being, like less 462 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: of a civilized human person, than when I'm eating a salad. Yes, yeah, 463 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: and I like I I take issue with rabbit food, 464 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: but I do feel like I can see it when 465 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm eating. I just feel like some kind of grazing creature, 466 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: but in a fun way. Yeah, and yeah, the thing 467 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: is sounds for sure not always healthy. Um. Take the 468 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: crab Louis, the so called king of salads, crab meat, avocado, asparagus, tomatoes. 469 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Historians think this was a West Coast invention, possibly going 470 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: back to nine four and Seattle Olympic Club when a 471 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: famous tenor ordered it repeatedly until it was all gone, 472 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: or maybe San Francisco in fourteen or Washington State's Davenport 473 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: Hotel claim their founder came up with it. Yeah, and 474 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: those those ingredients on their own. A just find there's 475 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: there's a tendency starting around this time to add mayonnaise 476 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: to anything that you called a salad. Yes, yes, And 477 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: I think when I say not always healthy and give 478 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: this example, it's that it's just I think it's just 479 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: fine food. I don't think it. I think when we 480 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: think of salad or putting it on a level that's 481 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: just like like yeah, like like like glowing like angels 482 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: choir exactly kind of right, this this will perfect you, 483 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: yes kind of thing. Yes. Sometime in the early twentieth century, 484 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: we see the invention of the tuna salad in we 485 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: get the caesar from a Tijuana chef named Caesar Cardini 486 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: who moved to Mexico to avoid America's prohibition laws. Story 487 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: goes he was low on ingredients, so he tossed together 488 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: some remain garlic, croutons, bullet eggs, parmesan cheese, wish to 489 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: your sauce, and olive oil. He insisted on absolutely no anchovies, 490 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: anchovies and only Italian olive oil. Ah. Yes, Um, that's 491 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: how the popular story goes. There's another that a chef 492 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: at a restaurant in Chicago put it together two decades earlier. However, 493 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: that claim is only supported by one source that I 494 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: could find. And I will say most salad origin stories 495 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: are this very thing, you're running out of ingredients or 496 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: do you need to use us something up? Yeah, you're like, 497 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll crap all right, salad time. And then there happens 498 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: to be a celebrity there and they're like, it's the 499 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: best food, and then it goes on the video. That's it. 500 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: Thousand Island dressing comes along onto the scene in the 501 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: early twentieth century that we get Green Goddess dressing, allegedly 502 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: named after a star in the talkies. The talkie films. Yes, 503 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: and then Cobs salad. Okay. A little more than a 504 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: decade later, in seven, along comes the Cops Salad. Okay. 505 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: The legend goes, this was an accidental creation yep, from 506 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: a fellow at l A's, the Brown Derby, Robert Cop Yes, 507 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Bob Cop, Bob Cop Bop Cop. He was looking around 508 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: for ingredients for a late night meal. He stumbled upon 509 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: some avocado, chopped it up and added to a mixture 510 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 1: of watercress, romaine, tomatoes, boiled eggs, chicken, cheese, and of 511 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: course some leftover bacon on the top. When the Derby's 512 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: beloved French dressing, and when a Hollywood promoter ate it 513 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: and spread the word about how delicious it was, it 514 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: went onto the menu permanently, and the rest is history. 515 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: Then in nine, a Chicago restaurant debuts the first recorded 516 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: salad bar. Commercial production of iceberg lettus began in the 517 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: nineteen forties bread specifically to survive transport across the US 518 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: before the refrigerated rail car was introduced, lettuce was packed 519 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: in ice That's where the name comes from. So for 520 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 1: most middle class Americans in the mid century, this was 521 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: salad iceberg. That's it. That's it. That's what you get. 522 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: And yes, I found a lot of strong opinions around 523 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: the palatability of iceberg lettuce. Lots of detractors calling it 524 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: the polyester of vegetables. And I'm not even entirely sure 525 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: what that means, but I get that it's bad. But 526 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: there were some defenders. An article in The New Yorker 527 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: comes to mind. It suggested pickling it, which I think 528 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: would be delicious. That sounds great. Also, I've charted oh yeah, yeah, 529 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: that's oh yeah, charred lettuce is so good. Um. Around 530 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty, restaurants started introducing salad bars. Over the next 531 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: couple of decades, Neighborhood Deli has caught on to that 532 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: trend as well. Ranch Dressing comes out nineteen fifty four, 533 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: and you can see our Wrench episode, one of our 534 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: longest episodes ever, featuring coworker Bevin Bollen for more on 535 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: that one. And then in the nineteen sixties we entered 536 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: the beautiful, weird era of the jello salad. Um. While 537 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: we see those as perhaps a bit tacking now, apologies 538 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: to anyone who loves jello salads, I think in general 539 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: they've fallen out, except in one specific place in the us. Yeah. 540 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: This this was not always the case. Um. It was 541 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: a big signifier of wealth because you had a refrigerator. 542 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. However, the first jello salad on record dates 543 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: back to nineteen o four and the third place contest 544 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: winner the Perfection salad. Um, this was a mold of cabbage, green, pepper, 545 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: celery and fimientos. And you can see our Aspects episode 546 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: if you want more on that one. Oh yeah, lots 547 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: of early early twentieth century aspect action happening, so much 548 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: so fun, and the jello salad becomes Utah State salad. 549 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: In the nineteen seventies, pre cut greens were introduced to 550 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: the commercial market. Between the nineteen seventies and the year 551 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: two thousand, the market four pre cut greens grew to 552 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the point where of the lettuce grown in California was 553 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: packaged pre cut. Mhmm. Yeah. Salad bars, particularly in steakhouses, 554 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: really boomed in the nineteen eighties along with the burgeoning 555 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: middle class focused chain restaurant scene. Uh just look look 556 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: at all those options. Behold the value, so much value, 557 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: many values were had that day. Um. Yeah. The eighties 558 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: is also the decade that salad and souper focused buffet 559 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: chains started booming, like super Plantation also known as Sweet Tomatoes, 560 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: and you can see our episode on Buffet's for a 561 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: little bit more on that. I was recently at a 562 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: I haven't been to a place as a salad bar 563 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: in a long time, and like a couple of days ago, 564 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: I went and it does have a feeling of like, 565 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: and I don't mean any offense by this, but this 566 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: is like my parents generate issues. Yeah, yeah, definitely, so 567 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: much stuff, so much like here's a pasta salads to 568 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: put on your leapy greens and tuna salad and chicken salad. 569 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: And I felt like a kid at experimenting. I just 570 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: put it all in there and see what happens. Anyway. 571 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: The first Salad Works opened in six Nowadays they have 572 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: one hundred stores in fifteen states, and this was an 573 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: early example of a fast casual restaurant chain featuring salads 574 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: is entrees along with sandwiches and soups. As fast casual 575 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: concepts gained in popularity through the nineties, they would set 576 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: the stage for the first the first salad only fast 577 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: casual restaurant, Chopped spelled with a with a P T 578 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: on the end. There um in New York City's Union Square. 579 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: That was the first location, and that was in two 580 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: thousand one. In two thousand seven, the aforementioned chain, Sweet 581 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: Green out of d C, landed on a new marketing 582 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: strategy for for this type of restaurant, um, making the 583 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: salad bowl into a lifestyle, like a healthy cool lifestyle. Um. 584 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: They launched an annual music festival called Sweet Life and 585 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: started collaborating with famous chefs and artists on featured dishes, 586 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: for example, Kendrick Lamars beats, don't kale my vibe salad. 587 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. Uh. They have marketing teams around the 588 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: country that organized like fitness classes and farmers market outings 589 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: to associate the brand with this very instagram morble lifestyle. 590 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: Interesting times we live in, oh I know. Um yeah. 591 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: These days there is a whole host of salad chains 592 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: Tender Greens, green Leaf, just Salad, honey grow salada, which 593 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: I love. It's an ancient Roman word for anyway um uh. 594 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: And all of these have minor tweaks on the concept 595 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: to set themselves, apart from having a chef and every 596 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: individual restaurant setting the menu, to using touch screens for ordering, 597 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: to uh, using produce grown on company owned farms. Um, 598 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: but these are mostly a phenomenon in metro areas. They're 599 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: not really expanding into non urban rickets yet. And uh 600 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: then then around brand called Farmer's Fridge started putting up 601 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: vending machines that they stopped with fresh salads and plastic 602 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: jars every every morning. Oh yeah, like like a like 603 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: a cupcake cupcake machine, but you know, but it's salad. Huh. Okay, yeah, yeah, 604 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: And I guess now a lot of I don't know, 605 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot, but well, there are restaurants 606 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: that do where you can get the bowl like a 607 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: like say Chipole or something, you shoun get a salad 608 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: bowl and put your stuff in there instead of getting 609 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: a burrito or whatever. Yeah, I'm sure that's a whole 610 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: trend too. It is. It's a it's a wild salad 611 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: time that we are living in. It is. And I 612 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: will say, on our trips, like you mentioned the one 613 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: you had in O Whahu, the trips we've gone on 614 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: through this show, I feel like we've always had a 615 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: really good salad. Oh and those things like saved my 616 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: life on those trips because we're eating, we're eating so 617 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: much and we're eating so much very rich food. And 618 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: I remember on our on our very first trip, we 619 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: were driving back from Kentucky and um, we stopped. We 620 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: stopped in Chattanooga this very nice, uh maybe friendshish themed restaurant, 621 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: and I and like all three of us were just 622 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: like vegetables. I need a vegetable, Like, give me, please, 623 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: give me a salad. I've eaten nothing but like Derby pie, 624 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: straight Derby pie for the past like three days. Please salad. 625 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we should have ordered something other than Derby Pie. 626 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: Oh no, just kidding, but yeah, yeah, I feel like 627 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of really good because I like salads, 628 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: but you know, I generally know what to expect, but 629 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I've had some creative Yeah. Yeah. One 630 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: of Piggy smalls had like strips of preserved lemon in it. 631 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: I keep going on about that preserved lemon in it. 632 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: But oh so nice. We had that like herb salad 633 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Right, Oh jeez. Okay, Well, I think 634 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: that's about what we have to say on salads for today. 635 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: It is um and we have some listener mail for you, 636 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: But first we've got one more quick break for a 637 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: whitermer sponsor and we're back. Thank you. Sponsored Yes, thank you, 638 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: and we're back with listen. I thank salad Thinkers kind 639 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: of sounded like that, Oh gosh, you're welcome. You're welcome. 640 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: Just when you thought you'd gotten it out of your head, 641 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: I bring it back. Emily wrote, first off, thank you 642 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: for releasing the pizza episode on my birthday. Happy Birthday. 643 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: She was one of the first people I ever wrote us, 644 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: So thank you. We appreciate it. Um. There is only 645 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: one food I like more than pizza, and that's pasta, 646 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: which is in the same a wheelhouse for sure. I 647 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: had been waiting for the right episode to send you 648 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: the story, and Pizza finally provided it. My university has 649 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: a week long break once a semester for any undergrad students, 650 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: and for the first weekend of the fall break, it 651 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: happened to be when my cousin was getting married. My 652 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: aunt's side of the family, including the cousin who got married, 653 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: lives in Greece, so my dad and I went on 654 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: a week long vacation to grease for the wedding, family 655 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: time and some touristy stuff too. I was excitedly talking 656 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: about my upcoming trip the week before the break with 657 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: my friend from one of my classes, because she had 658 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: been degreased just a few years before, while it had 659 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: been ten years for me. She was telling me about 660 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: how her tour guide had taken them to this Italian 661 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: restaurant in a small tourist town, touting it as the 662 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: best Italian food outside of Italy he had ever had. 663 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: She agreed it was the best she had ever had, 664 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: but what was truly memorable was the wall sized picture 665 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: of George Clooney, which was proudly hanging in the women's bathroom. 666 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: I asked her where the restaurant was and what it 667 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: was called, but she had forgotten. Fast forward to a 668 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: week later, my dad and uncle and I we're driving 669 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: through the mountains. We'd be in the car for a 670 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: while and we're quite hungry and I desperately had to 671 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: use a washroom. So we stopped at a tourist town 672 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: and my uncle dropped me off at a restaurant, telling 673 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: me to ask to use their washroom, then to come 674 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: back so we can take our time deciding a restaurant. 675 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: So I went in, and, to my amazement and amusement, 676 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: hanging in the women's room was a wall sized portrait 677 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: of George Clooney. My uncle was explaining it to my dad. 678 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: That's a bad idea to eat at the first place 679 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: you see. It's best to look around first. Then I 680 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: come running out excitedly explaining what had happened. So my 681 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: uncle ate his worries before we went to have some 682 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 1: delicious Italian food. If you would like to visit George, 683 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: the restaurant is called Schoola s c u O l 684 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: A and it's located in Nappilo, Greece. Attached as a 685 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: photo of me and George. The portrait is quite a 686 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: sight to behold. I must say it's huge. He's looking 687 00:40:53,960 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: refined as ever. Sure definitely worth a stop. On Dronia wrote, 688 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 1: My comment on sweet potatoes is that in Japan, during 689 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: the colder months, when leaves begin to fall and inundate 690 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: lawns in more countryside villages, people will wrap sweet potatoes 691 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: this kind with the dark skin and golden flesh and 692 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: toss them into leaf piles. After they're done raking their leaves, 693 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: they will burn the leaves with the wrapped potatoes still inside. 694 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: This of course cooks as well as smokes your potato. 695 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: When fall rolls around and we do this as well. 696 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: It makes raking much more enjoyable when you know a 697 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: tasty treat is waiting for you in the end. The 698 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: smokiness mixed with a sweet flesh is something quite special 699 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: and unique. Highly recommend giving it a shot. I also 700 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: saw in Tokyo don Quixote like a variety shop that 701 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: had roasted sweet potatoes at the end of the checkout 702 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: counter in a warmer display that you could walk and eat. 703 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: I also have a unique ice cream flavor that we 704 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: carry at the Kroger grocery store here in Arkansas. That 705 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: is the store private Select brand, which is wild Berry 706 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: lavender and Marscapone cheese. It is absolutely delightful. Oh, that 707 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: sounds delightful. That does sound delightful. We're working on a 708 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: lavender episode right now and I'm in a lavender state mind. Yeah. 709 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: But also I love that you can get the sweet 710 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: potatoes at the end of the checkout counter. Yes, like 711 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: like instead of hot dogs or something. Right, sweet potatoes 712 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: fills my heart with joy. Thanks to both of them 713 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: for writing to us. If you would like to write 714 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: to us, you can Our email is Hello at saber 715 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: pod dot com, where also on social media you can 716 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: find us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter at savor pod, 717 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: we do hope to hear from you. Savor is production 718 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio and Stuff Media. 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