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Speaker 1: On today's episode the thirty three most Fascinating Things about

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Speaker 1: the SEC in twenty twenty three. Welcome to the solid

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Speaker 1: verbal verbal. I'll that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for day Edith State?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoo? And no, Dan and Tie, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Solid Rapper boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 1: is Ty Hildebrand. That fine gentleman over there, you know well,

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, Sir, Welcome back. Preview season rolls on today

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Speaker 1: with the SEC. How are you? I'm Ty?

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Speaker 2: What's better than preview season? Nothing can only be wrong

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Speaker 2: during preview season? So you could just take some chances, right.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows specifics at this point, so you could just

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Speaker 2: throw things out into the ether, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: a truth fly, a truth mosquito latches onto one of

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Speaker 2: them and you feel good about yourself. I don't know

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Speaker 2: where this analogy is going, but I love this time

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Speaker 2: of year. Ty, what's better than this? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Not patient? Are you saying? Right here? Right now? You're

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Speaker 1: gonna go Vandy Mississippi State SEC Championship speak from the chest.

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Speaker 1: It's ok.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, are you not? Is that something you're not

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Speaker 2: leaning into? I think that's one of the more obvious

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Speaker 2: takes at this point. Ty, that's just like the trendy

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Speaker 2: hipster take that everybody's latching onto. So no, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I'm there quite yet, but I can Ty, you

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Speaker 2: can be quite persuasive, so you know, throw it at me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll see what happens when we get there.

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Speaker 1: We are previewing the SEC today. If you're listening to

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Speaker 1: with this episode all of the Power five conferences. Next

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Speaker 1: We're playing tempo this year. We're doing things a little

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Speaker 1: we have in previous years. Goodness, how interesting, disar we

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Speaker 1: had twenty three points of fascination. With the Pac twelve,

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Speaker 1: we had twenty nine items that we came to just organically.

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Speaker 1: We did not script this out or planet otherwise. In

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Speaker 1: both the Big Twelve and ACC the Big Ten, we

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Speaker 1: The quarterback situation Man, Yes, the quarterback situation place SEC

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Speaker 1: is fascinating this year. The best returning quarterbacks in this order,

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Speaker 2: but Will Rogers seems more proven than Connor Wegman at

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Speaker 2: in terms of vintage sort of SEC man ball. Is

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Speaker 2: I think teams are going to be thinking a little

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Speaker 2: I mentioned Alabama with Tommy Reese's experience in at Notre

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Speaker 2: you know, twelve thirteen personnel. No, I think that's definitely

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be the intellectual brutality of the best

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Speaker 2: Man, They've got some they lost their main running back,

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Speaker 1: It's it's his show. The other thing too, that I

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Speaker 1: know what to expect from. Yeah, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to make of Old miss this season. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to make of Kentucky this season. I have a

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Speaker 1: better indication of what to make a Missoo this season,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know what to make of Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: So there's so much intrigue. I think outside of that

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what we're here for today to point

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Speaker 1: out these these fascinating things frankly that we don't understand,

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Speaker 1: that we want to know more about. That we're interesting

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Speaker 1: to us when we read through all the preview material, and.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of coaches who didn't go full prime

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Speaker 2: but are luckily in this shadow of Dion Sanders in

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Speaker 2: terms of overhauling rosters, and like what Auburn did on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, what Arkansas did on both

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Speaker 1: He has waited patiently. Now behind was the name of

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Speaker 1: the starter, yeah right, name the starter, right, but didn't

433
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Speaker 1: decide to go elsewhere. Has has been very very patient

434
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Speaker 1: and in limited action last through like ten touchdowns no interceptions,

435
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Speaker 1: has been very solid, definitely proved to have a command

436
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Speaker 1: of this offense. And even though there are some big

437
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: names that have gone now to the pros, what remains

438
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: is still Brew McCoy. You remember Bru McCoy. He's another

439
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: name has been around forever he figures to be the

440
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Speaker 1: number one. It just feels to me like with the

441
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Speaker 1: weaponry that Tennessee brings back on the offensive side of

442
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Speaker 1: the ball, they should again be really really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dante Thorton, I think transferred Oregon to Tennessee. Another

444
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Speaker 2: big body at receiver who when he was on the

445
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: field at Oregon was very promising. So hopefully he's a

446
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: big player receiver for the balls as well.

447
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Speaker 1: I don't want to make too much of the fact

448
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Speaker 1: that Alex Golesh, their former offensive coordinator now is the

449
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Speaker 1: head coach at USF because offensive coordinator under Josh Hipel

450
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Speaker 1: is kind of like an understudy thing. And so Joey Halzell,

451
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Speaker 1: who we looked at we slacked about a little bit,

452
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Speaker 1: definitely looks like he could run a surf shop in

453
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Speaker 1: southern California if you will. He was.

454
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Speaker 2: He was the quarterback at me Clawson's High school right

455
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Speaker 2: before Clawson. He's a local to me.

456
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Speaker 1: Could run the surf shop if the coordinator thing does

457
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Speaker 1: not work out for him. Yeah, he's going to be

458
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Speaker 1: taking on some of the play calling, though not all

459
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Speaker 1: of it, because it's just not how the hyposystem works.

460
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Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see much of a difference on offense.

461
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: If anything, we're going to see more deep balls. And

462
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Speaker 1: that brings me to my hot hot take. Uh oh,

463
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Speaker 1: and I don't know if I've got the spicy thing

464
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Speaker 1: on here. I will have to find it. My hot

465
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Speaker 1: take with Tennessee is that they're beating Alabama again this

466
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Speaker 1: year on the road in tuscal.

467
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Speaker 2: In Tuscaloosa, smoking cigars.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, and we could talk about Bama necks if

469
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Speaker 1: we're drafting interesting teams. But Bama has more questions this

470
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Speaker 1: year on offense and on defense, maybe in the secondary

471
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Speaker 1: that I can remember in a long time. I don't

472
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Speaker 1: have faith in their quarterback situation at all. Okay, and

473
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Speaker 1: with the secondary being such a work in progress, or

474
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Speaker 1: at least it feels that way from afar. Knowing that

475
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Speaker 1: Tennessee has this system, it's going to remain intact. Joe

476
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Speaker 1: Milton can run it. He's bigger, probably stronger armed than

477
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Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker. It just seems like that's a bad matchup

478
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Speaker 1: for Alabama, even despite the fact that Jalen Hyde has

479
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: gone like some new guy will emerge sure and provide

480
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: that pop over the top. So Okay, that is my

481
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Speaker 1: hot take, and it's a perfect segue into talking about

482
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Speaker 1: your Alabama Crimson tied.

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Speaker 2: Dam Okay, So my only counterpoint with Tennessee is to

484
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Speaker 2: assume Joe Milton continues what Hendon Hooker did last year.

485
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: Is almost underappreciating Hendon Hooker that until his injury and

486
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: maybe until the Georgia game, fair enough, Like this guy

487
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: was a legit Heisman front runner, right Like he was

488
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Speaker 2: incredible for Tennessee. And so I understand optimism. I am

489
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Speaker 2: optimistic about Joe Milton, but I think what you did

490
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Speaker 2: unintentionally was like, yeah, Joe Milton's going to be Hendon Hooker,

491
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Speaker 2: Like that's a freaking tall or man, that's a really

492
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Speaker 2: good point. That's that's a really good point. I mean

493
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Speaker 2: to do that because Hendon Hooker had a great No.

494
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Speaker 1: It's okay last season. But what I think will be

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Speaker 1: fascinating this year to that to that point is is

496
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Speaker 1: this a system thing or is this a quarterback thing?

497
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Speaker 1: Because I think it's both, but yeah, it's a little

498
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Speaker 1: bit of both. Part of the reason why Hendon Hooker

499
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Speaker 1: didn't get drafted higher was because all the NFL scouts

500
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Speaker 1: said that it's a one read system. It's all about

501
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: quick reads, and Hendon Hooker he needs to work on

502
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: his processing if he wants to be an effective NFL pro.

503
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: He was also older, right, older and hurt and older

504
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: and hurt, and there were like things that factored in there.

505
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Is this system

506
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Speaker 1: plug and play for another strong arm quarterback who makes

507
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: the right reads right out of the gun, right out

508
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Speaker 1: of the shoot, or is this going to be the

509
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Speaker 1: kind of thing that we will see drop off going

510
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Speaker 1: away from Hendon Hooker. I don't know.

511
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Speaker 2: Alabama is fascinating, you're right about that. A couple of

512
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Speaker 2: things you're overlooking is they recruit like Alabama and now

513
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Speaker 2: add the best players from other programs, right, Okay, we

514
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: can dg that one sure. And so that is a

515
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: nice starting place because you're like, wow, they're thin at safety.

516
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: They added like Caleb Downs, a five start. You know,

517
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: they add either the best player in the country coming

518
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Speaker 2: out of high school or I think it's Trey Amos,

519
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: the corner that comes over from Louisiana, or like the

520
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: best corner prospect in the portal. And so Alabama should

521
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: be just fine in terms of depth in terms of talent.

522
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Speaker 2: I think it's an identity thing. I think it's an

523
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Speaker 2: idea of teams catching up in the SEC and matching

524
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Speaker 2: that talent on certain levels. You see what A and

525
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: M did a couple of years ago with their all

526
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Speaker 2: time recruiting class and what LSU is doing with both

527
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: the portal and bringing in a better coach. Okay, so

528
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly better than what ed Orgon was the last

529
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Speaker 2: couple of years at ELISU. Obviously, twenty nineteen is unimpeachable

530
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Speaker 2: for LSU. So I think there's a lot going on.

531
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Speaker 2: Obviously Georgia ascending to where they have gotten. I think

532
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Speaker 2: it's foolish to look at Alabama as a team coming

533
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Speaker 2: back too merely great and saying, yeah, Tennessee can beat

534
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Speaker 2: him two years in a row. I think that's a

535
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Speaker 2: stretch tie.

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Speaker 1: I really do.

537
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Speaker 2: I think Alabama has weirdly become underrated. Where you have

538
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: latched onto, and a lot of people have latched onto.

539
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure I have to a certain EXPERI it was like, wow,

540
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Speaker 2: to bring in Tommy Reese. Let's they think about the

541
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks on the roster or not Tommy Reese, but what's

542
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: his name? But I'm Tyler Buckner. Excuse me. With Tommy

543
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Speaker 2: Reese Alabama and what they do schematically on offense going

544
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Speaker 2: back to I think a more efficient route where they

545
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: do count on the rushing attack and tight ends and

546
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Speaker 2: not necessarily playing with the speed they were playing with

547
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: a few years ago with Sark and Locksley and Gaddis.

548
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: That's fascinating to me. If it's Jalen Milroe, great, he

549
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: is a rushing attack. He's a rushing threat himself. The

550
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: receivers are good. Jermaine Burton is still there. They're good.

551
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Speaker 2: They're just not otherworldly, dramatically insane like they were a

552
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: few years ago. They're going to be very good. They

553
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: have a good amount of offensive line experience that came together,

554
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: an offensive line that came together nicely last year after

555
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: a really sloppy performance against Texas. I think they're going

556
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: to be very good on offense, and I think they're

557
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: still going to be terrific on defense. Now you bring

558
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: up the linebackers, yeah, I think it's a point of concern.

559
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: Linebackers matter less when the defensive line can do what

560
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: it was doing last year at times. Noel Anderson, Dallas

561
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: Turner still there, Tim Smith is super promising on the inside.

562
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: There's a lot to like about a lot of pieces

563
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: about Alabama's defense. Kool Aid McKinstry is still there at

564
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: cornerback right opposite Trey Amos Amos, So I'm not crazy

565
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: concern now. Kevin Steele is a defensive coordinator, a new

566
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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, a new old defensive coordinator for Alabama who's

567
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: going to throw a lot of weird slurves at sec offense.

568
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 2: If you remember who is the Colorado Rockies like expansion

569
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: team through the slurve, That's where I was first introduced

570
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: to it. That's what Kevin Steel does. He was the

571
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Speaker 2: one defensive coordinator who did make LSU's twenty nineteen offense

572
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: look relatively mortal, and so he comes over for Miami

573
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: where it just wasn't a fit. He's gonna do fun,

574
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: weird things with his Alabama defense if he still has

575
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: baseball reference his fastball as a defensive coordinator. He was

576
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: going to be Maryland's defensive coordinator last year. So who knows?

577
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: I am in on Alabama. I'm in on Alabama, at

578
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: least within the context of saying that is still better

579
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Speaker 2: than Tennessee. Okay, you give me Nick Saban versus Joe

580
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: Milton and still I'm in Dangnick Zabon.

581
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think that's totally fair. My I think

582
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: source of hesitation with Alabama's not the defense, because the

583
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: defense is always good. Yeah, I'm fooling myself if I say, oh, well,

584
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: the secondary is secondary has questions, therefore Tennessee is going

585
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Speaker 1: to beat him.

586
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

587
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: I think my biggest point of uncertainty with Alabama as

588
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback thing, and it's not new if you're right

589
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: when college football through the preseason, you kind of know

590
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: where they're at. But the Tyler Buckner thing really leaves

591
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: me unnerved. I think Tommy Reese is a good coordinator.

592
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's that good of a coordinator.

593
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Buckner is very talented. I know Tyler

594
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: Buckner can run, and he's very fast. And if in

595
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: fact they're going to go the man ball route that

596
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: you described at the top of the show, then that's interesting.

597
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: It's interesting if it's him or if it's Jalen Milroe. Frankly,

598
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: they can run that system with those guys because both

599
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: of them are fleet to foot. Where it starts to

600
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Speaker 1: fall off a little bit for me is when we

601
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Speaker 1: start having the conversation that we did last season, actually

602
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Speaker 1: that we did this past spring about Tyler Buckner, like

603
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: he came into camp and he looks like he's a

604
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: new man, looks like he's the new man. Thing falls

605
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: on deaf ears here, Okay, because I saw what his

606
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: throwing mechanics look like at his time at Notre Dame,

607
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's going to play at Alabama.

608
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't think he's that gifted a passer.

609
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got that strong of arm. Maybe

610
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Maybe he got thinking, maybe got better with

611
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: coaching and with better skill round. I think that that's possible. Sure,

612
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: you can work around any kind of physical limitations when

613
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: you've got Alabama's a depth of talent. But I am

614
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Speaker 1: just not sold on that quarterback position going up against

615
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: a team like Tennessee or Frankly Texas, A and M

616
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: some other teams that we know can probably score, should

617
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: be able to score in this SEC season LSU, and

618
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: thinking that they're going to be able to match serve

619
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: to keep pace with some of those offenses that I

620
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: know we're going to play at tempo and score score

621
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Speaker 1: against whoever. I don't know. That to me is where

622
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: it falls off for Alabama and why I'm again going

623
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Speaker 1: to go Tennessee.

624
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Speaker 2: Who do you think is more worried in those matchups?

625
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: Right?

626
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: Do you think lic is more worried about Alabama or

627
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: Alabama is more worried about LSU. I'd likely say LS

628
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: is more worried about Alabama. I'd like you likely to

629
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: say Tennessee, A and M. You know, all these teams

630
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: at times either made Alabama look mortal for stretches last

631
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 2: year with Bryce Young or just full on beat them.

632
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: And so I still am a believer in Alabama. I

633
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: understand the concern, and I think the concern is justified

634
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: because of the quarterback situation. There is just something about

635
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: Nick Saban where you give them the benefit of the doubt,

636
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: they'll figure it out. They'll find a way it look,

637
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: they win national championships, they get two playoffs with quarterbacks

638
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: who go on to do nothing else in football. Jake Koker,

639
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Blake Sims guys like that. It might be that kind

640
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: of year for Alabama, but even still, they're handing it

641
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: off to Jace McClellan. Right, They're handing it off to

642
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: guys like that where you're just like, I think they're

643
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: going to be all right. I think they're going to

644
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: find a way. They're one of four teams, three teams,

645
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: two teams who deserve a benefit of the doubt that

646
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: they're going to figure it out. And when you start

647
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: with those lines and that secondary or at least that

648
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: talent ceiling in the secondary, I think they're'll be fine.

649
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: I really do.

650
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: Where you want to go next? Who's interesting to you

651
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: in the SEC East outside of Tennessee, outside of Tennessee,

652
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: South Carolina, South Cakilaki Tie South Cakilaki. I like it.

653
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Beamer Ball eight and four last year, lost the Bowl

654
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: game to Notre Dame over under. This season is six.

655
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: Let me preface this by saying, I love Shane Biemer.

656
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: I love beamer Ball. I love what he's done. I

657
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: love the enthusiasm. He took over a two win team,

658
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: inherited it from Will mush Champ right yep, turned him

659
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: into a seven win team in year one and then

660
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: an eight win team in year two. If he improves

661
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: on eight wins this season, he should be coach of

662
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: the decade. Okay, because this is a brutal schedule, and

663
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: this is a team that lost a lot to the

664
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: transfer portal. Yeah, maybe Spencer Rattler will find that magic

665
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: and become the Heisman caliber quarterback that everybody thought he could.

666
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

667
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he's like I mean, if he wins,

668
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: if he wins ten games at South Carolina, he's the

669
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: next Texas coach.

670
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean incredible, that'd be incredible. So that is

671
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: not likely to me. I don't see them improving on

672
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: on eight wins this season. Okay, So I am trying

673
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: to take a optimistic view of this situation at South Carolina.

674
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: Because we were talking about points of fascination. My point

675
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: of fascination with South Carolina revolves around three guys in particular.

676
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: Please it is Spencer Rattler, It is Juice Wells, and

677
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: is their awesome recruit Nichols Harbor, who was very fast,

678
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: very fast, A bit of a story. Yeah, this recruiting cycle.

679
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: He's the number one athlete in the class. He's six six,

680
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: he can play anywhere from wide receiver to tight end

681
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: to linebacker. If you go on twenty four to seven's website,

682
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: they compare him to Kyle Pitts, which is a pretty

683
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: good comparison. If I'm being honest, I would take that

684
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: comparison on my team any day. Okay, they are basically

685
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: starting over along the offensive line. They're starting over at

686
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: running back and at tight end. Marshaun Lloyd transferred out,

687
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: Jaheim Bell transferred out, Austin Stagner transferred back to Oklahoma.

688
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: All those guys are gone via the portal, and they

689
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: lost their offensive coordinator, did they not. Marcus Marcus Sadderfield

690
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: is out. He went to Nebraska. I'm mixed on Marcus

691
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: Saderfield as a play caller. That's a separate conversation altogether. Okay,

692
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: pretty much everything other than the interior defensive line is

693
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: also gone via the portal or otherwise. Jordan Birch transferred

694
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: up to Oregon. Oregon, Yep, we talked about him before.

695
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: They're one hundred and eighth in returning production on defense.

696
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: This is all a very long way of saying that

697
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to focus on those three guys because those

698
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: are the real points of fascination for me to see

699
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: how they do given the fact that around them there

700
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: isn't a whole lot of support around them. It feels

701
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: like a pretty big reboot for South Carolina. And that

702
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: is all to say that this is a difficult schedule.

703
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Only four true road games. They're on the road at Georgia,

704
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: at Tennessee, at Missouri, and at Texas. A and I

705
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: those they're not easy picnic games on the road. By stretch.

706
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: They also have a game right out of the shoot

707
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: a neutral sider in Charlotte against North Carolina. They also

708
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: got to play teams like Clemson at the end of

709
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: the year. Of course, they got to play Kentucky at

710
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: the end of the year, which could be more of

711
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: a fully formed thing by that stretch in the season.

712
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: This is not an easy slate by any stretch of

713
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: the imagination. We have said that now for the last

714
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: two seasons under Shane Beemer, and he has defied us

715
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: both times. If he does it again this year with

716
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: what I think is a real drain on talent that

717
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: maybe we haven't seen previously, You're right, he's the coach

718
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: of Texas, he's a coach of the New York Johns.

719
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, I don't know what else we

720
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: would say about Shane Biemer at this point. If he

721
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: can kind of fly in the face of all that

722
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom and those headwinds and all of these things.

723
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: But Spencer Ratler has an opportunity here to fully live

724
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: up to the hype and be the dude in a

725
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: way that he hasn't before because I think he has

726
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: less support. Juice Wells is the number one wide out,

727
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: and Juice Wells had a good season last year. He's

728
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: going to need to have a better season this year

729
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: if they want to defy these odds. And Nichols Harbor's

730
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: is a freak. There's a reason he was the number

731
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: one athlete. He can come in and contribute right away.

732
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: Whether they play him offensively defensively, who knows. I would

733
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: say let him play where ever he wants to do,

734
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: because he can use the help all over the field.

735
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: But the fact that they got him is a testament

736
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: to the fact that Shane Biemer has built so much

737
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: goodwill in the South Carolina community and really around college

738
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: football with what he's done in a short period of time.

739
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: I love him because he's enthusiastic. I love him by

740
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: what he's done so far. I just don't see it

741
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: this year. I don't see it, so I would not

742
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: in a million years want to go over if I'm

743
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: playing Grand Total. If I'm not a fraidy cat out.

744
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: There, that's true Verblers dot com, yep.

745
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: If I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is,

746
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going over on South Carolina. Though I am

747
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: rooting for them, heartily rooting for Shane Beemer. I love

748
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: what he's done. I just don't see it this year.

749
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: All right, So I guess the only follow up question

750
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: I have is Spencer Ratler Comma good question.

751
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: Mark.

752
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: It was tough for the first whatever half two thirds

753
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: of the year last year, and all of a sudden

754
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: he came alive.

755
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: He came alive when they simplified the offense. And that

756
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: is kind of my bone of contention with Marcus Sadderfield.

757
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: He had that offense a little too overcooked, and when

758
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: they broke it down and made it easier for I

759
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: don't know, the guys to understand it, the guys to

760
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: just play, not think that was when we saw the

761
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: results at the end of the season that kind of

762
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: blew us out of the water, like they beat Clemson,

763
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: what huh, what what are we talking about here? That's

764
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: I think the mechanics of how that happened. I don't

765
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: know if he's good. I remember thinking that Spencer Rattler

766
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: was going to be a surefire number one overall pick

767
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: back in his day at Oklahoma. He's fallen off a

768
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: little bit from that, but at moments clearly he can flash,

769
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: and his elusiveness back there is instrumental to this offense

770
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: working because the line, the line was not good last year,

771
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: and the line needs to improve this year. So I

772
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if he's good. I think

773
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: he's probably better than the stats would indicate, better than

774
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: he gets credit for, if only because at least that

775
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: current time of recording in early August, I don't think

776
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: much of the line in front of him. I didn't

777
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: last year, I don't this year. So he's gonna need

778
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: to do a lot with his legs to buy himself

779
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: time and find open guys Juice Wells, maybe Nichols Harbor

780
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: down the field.

781
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly, I think their schedules. Okay, it's spaced

782
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: out well enough, it's spaced out.

783
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: But Dan, I know, if you're this troubled along the

784
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: line and throughout I hear offence.

785
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: You're not wrong.

786
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: That's a problem. It's good that they're it's good that

787
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: they're solid up front in the in the interior line.

788
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: That will help in the rushing defense area. But man,

789
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: there's too many question marks for me to really feel

790
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: great about it.

791
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: South Carolina last season one hundred and twenty seventh in

792
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: rushing success rate defense. Yeah, so maybe a good thing

793
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: that those guys are no longer there and that they've

794
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: cycled to, you know, new guys in that front seven.

795
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: I don't South Carolina is really interesting to me. They

796
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: just for whatever reason, talked about this before. The juice

797
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 2: and Williams Brice is very real to me. So hoping

798
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: for more energy from the game Cocks.

799
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: You want to go Texas A and M?

800
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: Next?

801
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh Man, Why Texas A and M? I'm interested in

802
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: the too beita fish in a bowl complex between Jimbo

803
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Fisher and Bobby Petrino with offensive play calling. I'm interested

804
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: in the whole lot at A and M. I'm interested

805
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: in is this the same story that we've had for

806
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: three years running now where they get an incredible amount

807
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: of talent and it's really a function of can they

808
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: develop the guys or not? Right? Is it the same

809
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: thing this year? So? Yeah.

810
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Going into the year. The fascinating thing with Texas A

811
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: and M is we talk about going from bad to

812
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 2: average to pretty good to good to great. I don't

813
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: know how Texas A and M, but they might be

814
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: able to go from bad to great right especially on offense.

815
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: Offense is what held them back last year, and the

816
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: rush defense was atrocious. A and M is an interesting

817
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: place where they're deep along the defensive line. I think

818
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: linebacker is a question. I think they'll be all right

819
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: in the secondary. They've recruited well enough, although there's been

820
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: some turnover there, bringing Tony Grimes from North Carolina, for example,

821
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: a former five star corner, and they should be able

822
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: to get autter the quarterback. They should be able to

823
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: get off the field. DJ Diurkins should be able to

824
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: build and design another strong defense with the amount of

825
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: experience they return because of those young guys who were

826
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: forced into action as freshmen last year. And offensively, if

827
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: they're healthy along the offensive line, and Connor Wegman is

828
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: what he seemed to be near the end of last year,

829
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: this could be at least an offense. Given Bobby Petrino's

830
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: history in a booth on the field, whatever what Connor

831
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: Weagman looked like and having one of the best handful

832
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: of receivers, maybe the best receiver in the country. And

833
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: Evan Stewart, no Devin h Chain, but a Nia Smith

834
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: returns and his do everything role that there's enough offensive talent,

835
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: there's enough depth on offense, there's enough money to throw

836
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: at smart offensive minds. Where A and M seems to

837
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: be turning over every rock and most certainly that's where

838
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: they may have found. Bob Patrina, that's mean appropriately because

839
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: I root for Texas A and M in the same

840
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: way I root for teams that underperform. I'd like to

841
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: see a super fun Evan Stewart right, I'd like to

842
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: see Connor Wegman come into his own and offer up

843
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: another strong quarterback performance in the SEC. That would be

844
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: a good thing for my eyes. But there are still

845
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: a lot of questions.

846
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: Why is Jimbo Fisher?

847
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: Why is Jimbo Fisher? Is that you're just going why

848
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: is Jimbo Fisher?

849
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: Is its own pro? But why is Jimbo Fisher so

850
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: skittish about just coming out and saying, yeah, Bobby Patrina

851
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: is going to call the.

852
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: Place Because Jimbo Fisher won a national championship with arguably

853
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: the most prolific offense of all time in college football.

854
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: And when you know what you're capable of, ty, when

855
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: you Ty Hildenbrant, know what you're capable of, when I

856
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, it's hard to turn that over to somebody else.

857
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: You have pride in your vision and your worldview about

858
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: college football offenses. And so Jimbo Fisher obviously sees the

859
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: skill on offense that he has recruited and seen at practice,

860
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: and he wants to be the one. It's his pride.

861
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: He wants to be the one to be that architect

862
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: like he once was. And I get that. But you

863
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: lose d app State, you throw, you stop scoring twenty

864
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: twenty four points a game last year. You have to

865
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: at some point, if you're smart and self aware, know

866
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: that something is a miss. And so he just wants

867
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: to be positive. I think in his going confidence in

868
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: Bobby Patrino and Patrino's vision for play calling what the

869
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: offense can be and should be under Condor Wegman, that

870
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: it's at that point where he says, Okay, it's his,

871
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: and so I think it's hard to let go.

872
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: I get that, and I think a lot of people

873
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: can relate to that. Yeah, it doesn't matter if it's

874
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: football or real life. Yeah, you know, he's been very successful,

875
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: but it's been a while since the offense was humming. Sure,

876
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised it's taken this long for him to

877
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: come to that conclusion. I'm really surprised by the comments

878
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I'm really surprised that he has been

879
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: so noncommittal with respect to Patrino. And I'm not sold

880
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: on Patrino either. I think Patrino's probably a better offensive

881
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: mind at this point than Jimbo Fisher, but I don't

882
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: know if that's so much a given. It's just different

883
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: and maybe he's got a track record for a different

884
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of offense. But that, to me is such a

885
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: point of fascination how those two interact and what the

886
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: offense ends up looking like. Sure, even people who cover

887
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: Texas A and I aren't sure. And at this point

888
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: in August, I would just I would expect more clarity.

889
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I would we usually get more of that, But Jimbo

890
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: Fisher never ceases to be interesting.

891
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, tiy, Jimbo Fisher doesn't owe

892
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: you anything, No, I know, we'll all know soon enough.

893
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: Also should mention mus Muhammad, who had a crazy impressive

894
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. He should be back on the opposite

895
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: side with Evan Stewart. So again, any offensive mind would

896
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: love to have what Texas A and M has. The

897
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: tight end depth is exceptional. It's just a matter of

898
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: who has the confidence, who is the teacher, who is

899
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: the game day mind to actually see results.

900
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: They've got decent buffers over under his eight on a

901
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: nose and outside of the stretch where they go neutral

902
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: site against Arkansas back home against Alabama on the road

903
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: at Tennessee, feels like they would be incredible value at

904
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: seven and a half, which I think is the number

905
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: that we've got currently in grand total. Yeah, I feel

906
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: it feels like that's good value. Now they've got Miami

907
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: on the road week two. I don't know what to

908
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: expect from Miami, but otherwise otherwise they've got a tough

909
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: way to close this thing out at LSU week thirteen.

910
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: So this is not what I would call an easy schedule,

911
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: but if the talent lives up to the billing, there's

912
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: not more than three losses on this thing.

913
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: Well, I just think because eight and four wins. You

914
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: an over with A and M. They do almost nothing

915
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: but exclusively go eight and four in their good years,

916
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: So that's why I'd say it's a good bet. No, Okay,

917
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: where are we going next?

918
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: Dan?

919
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: In these Let's talk about Georgia because they're still fascinating

920
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: to me because of some coaching moves. Obviously with the

921
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: end of Stetson Bennett, he's still alive with the NFL.

922
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: His tenure important at Georgia side, that's a correction there. Yeah,

923
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: I think George is fascinating with the number of players

924
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: over the past two years that have been drafted highly. Yeah,

925
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: Georgia's definitely. Even though they are playing a different sport

926
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: than most of us or most of the teams we

927
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: root for, I still think they're fascinating.

928
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to play the ding four times, but

929
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: I have four points of fascination with George. Georgia's the

930
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: two time defending national champion. They went fifteen and l

931
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: last season. They're over unders eleven and a half. Just

932
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: to get that stuff out of the way, so you

933
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: know where we're coming from. Yeah, the first point of

934
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: fascination is whether Georgia can become the first team to

935
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: three peat, yeah, since the thirties. Minnesota threepe did in

936
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 1: the thirties. Now, a lot of folks have been talking

937
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: in the preseason they think that Minnesota team could take

938
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: this Georgia team.

939
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: Everybody's been saying that.

940
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: I'm on the fence about that. All your Notre Dame

941
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: friends were watching that game in the stands. Just to

942
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: put it in historical context, that's where this Georgia team's at.

943
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: They could repeat. They're probably the favorite two three peat.

944
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: The subheading to that is now that they've got the

945
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: easiest schedule in the SEC, and it's not really even close.

946
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: It just isn't there.

947
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 2: With an Oklahoma cancelation as the asterisk, yes, Oklahoma cancelation

948
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: is the asker is sure, but eleven and a half.

949
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: I would confidently bet the over because here is the schedule.

950
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: Week one U T. Martin, Week two, Ball State, Week three,

951
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Week four UAB that's four to oh, that's

952
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: four and oh yeah. Week five on the road at Auburn,

953
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: Week six at home against Kentucky. Week seven on the

954
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: road at Vandy before they have a bye week probably

955
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: seven or no. As they go into week nine, it's

956
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: the neutral cider against Florida, home against Tennessee and ole Miss.

957
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: Week twelve and thirteen on the road at Tennessee and

958
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Even if you feel like that Tennessee game

959
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: is maybe more of a crap shoot this year, I

960
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: don't really feel that way. But if you do, that

961
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: seems to be the best team on the schedule. They're

962
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: still not going below eleven wins is not happening. So

963
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: I am all in on Georgia going undefeated again twelve

964
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: to zero.

965
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: Which is the game? Where is the danger zone? Where's

966
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: the trap door? Where's the snake in the toilet? I

967
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: think it's at Auburn.

968
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't not with where Auburn's at. Maybe Kentucky.

969
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: Well, well, first of all, we don't know where Auburn's at.

970
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: We have this is a fully new team, new staff. Ever,

971
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: maybe I'll throw Kentucky out there. I'm actually pretty high

972
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: in Kentucky. Okay, but that's in Athens.

973
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: In Athens, Yeah, maybe Tennessee on the road Week twelve.

974
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. After Old Miss. Maybe they're dealing with

975
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: some body blow theory after playing Old Miss. Sure, but

976
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard for me to find the losses here.

977
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: I read through this thing. I keep waiting for it

978
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: to get harder, and it's just it doesn't. Georgia is

979
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: minus five hundred in the Betty Markets to win the

980
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: SEC East, which.

981
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: Means, you know, I'm sitting here trying to make a

982
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: Viagara joke, right, I know you're I know you Yeah, yeah, okay, I.

983
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: Would expect nothing less. Georgia's goes back at the end

984
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: of the episode. Yeah, minus five hundred, which means you

985
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: got to put up fifty to win ten. That's where

986
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: Vegas is at. So the schedule undeniably easy. The sub

987
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: sub subheading is that Georgia also probably has the best

988
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: team in college football, and it's not because of the schedule.

989
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: It's a mutually exclusive point. It's almost in spite of

990
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: the schedule. And to that end, I think is where

991
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: we start talking about changes on offense, which is what

992
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: you alluded to. George's got a new quarterback, They've got

993
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: a new old offensive coordinator. I believe that Carson Beck

994
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: is going to be the start of this season. We've

995
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: heard nothing but good things about him through the spring,

996
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: all throughout last season two. But I think he's probably

997
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: the guy backup last year. He's got the most experience.

998
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: Seems like he's held that lead over Brock, Vander Griffin,

999
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: gun or Stockton the whole way through. George has got

1000
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: really good quarterback depth. If it's not Carson Becker, if

1001
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: there's an injury to Carson Beck, they've got guys clearly

1002
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: behind him who can come in and probably fill that

1003
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: role admirably. Carson back by the way six or five

1004
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: or former five star. He's got the physical tools that

1005
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Bennett did not. The new coordinator is Mike Bobo, and

1006
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: I say new in quotes because Mike Bobo was there before.

1007
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Georgia fans were not exactly thrilled when they heard Mike Bobo.

1008
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: But Mike Bobo is a guy who the last time

1009
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: he was there was scoring forty one points a game

1010
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: with Hudson Mason at quarterback. He took full advantage of

1011
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb when Nick Chubb was playing running back. So

1012
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: I think they'll be just fine. I think they will

1013
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: stick to the formula of being a very very physical team,

1014
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: a team that is able to run you into Bolivian

1015
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: as our friend Mike Tyson would say. And if Carson

1016
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Beck gives them a little bit more in the passing

1017
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: game with over the top stuff, with increased arm strength

1018
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: with it, maybe a better cast of wide receivers, then

1019
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: so be it. We will probably find that out a

1020
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: little bit later on in the season. But the ground

1021
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: game will again be ground zero for the project because

1022
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: this is one of the best three offensive lines in America.

1023
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: Whether it's Dejon Edwards or Kendall Milton, they will eat.

1024
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: They will open up lanes for that passing game. And

1025
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: that's where Dominic Loved and raw Ra Thomas I think

1026
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: come in. There are two big time transfer threats that

1027
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: came over from Missouri and Mississippi State, respectively. They've also

1028
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: still got lad McConkie who's there for like a fifteenth season.

1029
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, brock Bowers probably what about.

1030
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: The best tight end in the country, who has been

1031
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: the best bet height end of the country the last

1032
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: I was building up to.

1033
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: That point about yeah, okay, Rock Bowers. Okay, So basically,

1034
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: as long as Georgia isn't a disaster at quarterback, they're

1035
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: going to be ridiculous on offense.

1036
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: Okay, And you.

1037
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: Already knew that because they're two time defending champions and

1038
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: they recruit like crazy. That's just where we're at. They're

1039
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: not going to get any worse on offense because of

1040
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: a change at coordinator or or a quarterback.

1041
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'll invoke what I did with Hendon Hooker.

1042
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: Let's remember that's Stetson. Bennett was excellent for Georgia. Is

1043
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: he one of the greatest quarterbacks to play college football ever?

1044
00:52:58,960 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: He is not.

1045
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: Is he one of the greatest, if not the greatest

1046
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: Georgia quarterback ever?

1047
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

1048
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: Is he the best Georgia quarterback of at least the

1049
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: modern era in the heights he took this team and

1050
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: the efficiency with which he played. So that's who they're replacing.

1051
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: That's who we're replacing. An absolute gamer that yes, started

1052
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: out kind of poorly in a couple of national championships

1053
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: but made it work. Or in a national championship last

1054
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: year he was pretty good. If Carson Beck is good,

1055
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: Georgia will win the national championship again. Likely if he

1056
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: has growing pains but shows flashes. I think they could

1057
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: lose a game, not because they're less than Kentucky or Auburn.

1058
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: Auburn's a rivalry game on the road, Kentucky's the week

1059
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: after that, is it not. That's where I would be

1060
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: a little bit scared. Four percent scared, eleven percent scared,

1061
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: something like that. But yeah, I think you nailed everything else. Well,

1062
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: they should be fine on defense.

1063
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: Defensively, they'll be fine. They obviously lose some big names

1064
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, Khelley Ringo, Nolan Smith, Bear, Alexander transferred out.

1065
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: Which is kind of didn't play half of last year anyway.

1066
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But the thing with Georgia and I talked

1067
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: about this last November, and I try to bring this

1068
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: up every chance I get. Georgia rotates guys in so

1069
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: much that even the guys now who are the quote

1070
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: unquote starters, had experienced last year, even if they weren't

1071
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: the full time guy. Sure, they just rotate so many

1072
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: guys through that they're never really at risk of a

1073
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: huge drop off on defense unless there are catastrophic injuries,

1074
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: and you know you can't plan for that type of thing.

1075
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: But they're so good and they're so talented, and they

1076
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: have such a heavy rotation that they're never quite starting

1077
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: over at a position group. So they'll be fine. They'll

1078
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: be absolutely fine on defense. It'll be one of the

1079
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: best defenses in the country. I have questions about the

1080
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: offense as well. Obviously, anytime you swap out quarterbacks and coordinators,

1081
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: thinks can go sideways a little bit. I just I

1082
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: think they've mitigated the risk to this point to such

1083
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: a great degree that it's not really that concern, especially

1084
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: with the schedule. The schedule really works to their favorite.

1085
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: No Kent State this year, tie, No Kent State, nothing

1086
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: to worry about, nothing, No Ken State scares Yeah.

1087
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: So look, I don't want to pan Georgia and just

1088
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: say I will pencil them into the title game in

1089
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: the playoff again. But I kind of feel that way.

1090
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: It's boring. It's boring. It's like a great golfer. Great

1091
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: golfers are regimented, and the reason that they're great is

1092
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: because they avoid the boneheaded stuff. They make par instead

1093
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: of double bogie. Sure, George is just good at that. Now,

1094
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: they're not going to go out there and do the

1095
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: boneheaded thing. Kirby Smart has kind of just bread that

1096
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: out of them at this point, and with the talent

1097
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: they've gotten, the roster in front of them and schedule

1098
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: in front of him, Excuse me, I have no reason

1099
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: to think they're not hitting that over of eleven and

1100
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: a half, going twelve and zero and going back to

1101
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: the playoff.

1102
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: Man, I just think college football is hard, and I

1103
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: understand what George has done the past couple of years,

1104
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: but like we had this conversation about USC and like

1105
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, there has never been a defense

1106
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: as deep with five they lose to chi Quiz Rogers, right, Like,

1107
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: there's just it's a weird sport, and so like I

1108
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: bake weirdness into Georgia into Ohio State. Do you know

1109
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State losing to Iowa? Like I just I kind

1110
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: of want to bake that in, which is why I

1111
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: don't love taking it over. That can only hit going

1112
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: twelve and h.

1113
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to LSU. Yeah, is Jayden Daniels the surefire

1114
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: starting quarterback over Garrett Osmier?

1115
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, next team, next team.

1116
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: What interest do you the most about LSU.

1117
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: Mason's How about Mason's Mason Smith on defense returns in

1118
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: the middle of a defense that could have used him

1119
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: for most of last year, certainly the first half of

1120
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: last year, as LSU's defense did get better, but they

1121
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: were not especially deep at defensive tackle, and they hit

1122
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: the portal once again. Mason Smith is great. Mason Taylor.

1123
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: You remember previously on Mason Taylor he caught the pass

1124
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: that beat Alabama. But this has not been an LSU

1125
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: team that by and larged has utilized tight ends like

1126
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly likes to utilize tight ends, and Mason Smith

1127
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: now coupled with Malik Neighbors being back, a lot of

1128
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: youthful promise at receiver, offers Jaden Daniels something he likes

1129
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: and that is short to intermediate passes, and so I

1130
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: think that's going to be not the bread and butter

1131
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: of Mike Denbrock's offense at LSU, but a healthy central

1132
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: element of the offense and offense that struggled to run

1133
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: the ball consistently with running backs that doesn't have what

1134
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: I think to be true star power at running back.

1135
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: We'll see happy to be proven wrong. But to me,

1136
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: it's the most fascinating thing about LSU moving forward because

1137
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: I think their defense is going to be quite good.

1138
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: I think it's the old like take a chance to

1139
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: a chance, to a chance to a chance, like the

1140
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: old abba jitsa gotta throw the ball. You know, Jaden

1141
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: Daniels was so safe last year. You gotta make teams

1142
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: pay for stacking the box, for keeping safeties closer and

1143
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: closer to the box, and so that's where LSU really

1144
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: needs to take that next step to be a more

1145
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: complete offense. To me is the most fascinating thing about LSU,

1146
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: because I think after a year where they struggled a

1147
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: bit along the offensive line but got better and looked

1148
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: like the future is super bright up front on offense,

1149
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: they need to take full advantage of the width and

1150
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: length of the field and that to me is everything

1151
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: for LSU. As look, they won the West last year.

1152
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of nitpicking, but with who they

1153
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: face this year and the angry defensive lines they face,

1154
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: I think we need to see a more complete Jaden

1155
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: Daniels experience because, as you alluded to, Garrett Nusmyer can

1156
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: throw the ball, is enthusiastic and confident in throwing the

1157
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: ball down field. Should he be all of the time.

1158
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: Perhaps not a little bit sloppy, sure, but by and large,

1159
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, if that's something that LSU wants out of

1160
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: their offense, that Garrett nus Meyer is happy to oblige.

1161
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels very very good, had some down moments last year,

1162
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: but again, the Jade Daniels story is one of a

1163
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: quarterback good enough to beat anybody in this conference, including Georgia.

1164
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: Good enough. That doesn't mean he can't. But like you

1165
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So if we get that element

1166
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: of LSU's offense, we're now talking about an SEC champion

1167
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: potential ceiling for LSU because I think they're gonna smother

1168
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: teams on defense, even with losing guys like bj Ojalai

1169
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: upfront sack machines. We've won all this time without mentioning

1170
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: Harry Perky. Harold Perkins our guy, the most fascinating, dangerous

1171
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: defensive player in college football. So when you include those

1172
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: players as wearing your uniform, LSU is in a wonderful place.

1173
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: And what he accounts for and what he can cover

1174
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: for on an LSU defense that now adds like or

1175
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: State's best linebacker and Omar Spates, it's pretty great.

1176
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: I need to do pretty great. I don't want to

1177
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: keep playing it over playing it. But it's time to

1178
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: bring up Harry Perky. I mean, come on, yeah, we

1179
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: have to.

1180
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: He's stupid good.

1181
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: Here here's my question for you. Now, you did the preview,

1182
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: the deep dive for both LSU and Florida State, and

1183
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: LSU Florida State is the big game of Week one,

1184
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: regardless of what Fox would tell you about Colorado tcuh,

1185
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: I think it's LSU FSU. Knowing what you know, which

1186
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: of these two teams do you favor in that game?

1187
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Who would you pick?

1188
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: I'd give slide edge to Florida State, slight slight edge.

1189
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: I think the best of Jordan Travis is a little

1190
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: bit more interesting. I think their offensive skill is a

1191
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: little bit more interesting in this moment. But man, I

1192
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: don't know. I think what LSU. I think LSU has

1193
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: a better chance or I think LIS has a good

1194
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: chance to win this game on an neutral field in

1195
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: Week eight. I think Florida State is better built to

1196
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: win it in Week one, especially since it's in Orlando.

1197
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair vantage point. LSU is over under.

1198
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: By the way, it's nine and a half. There are

1199
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: tough teams in the schedule outside of the FSU Week

1200
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: one game. That's a legitimately awesome matchup in Week one.

1201
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we get it, But weirdly, it does

1202
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: not feel like that tough of the schedule to me,

1203
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, going to Bama will be challenging. You're not

1204
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: going to be in the SEC West and come out

1205
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: of this thing without a tough road game here and there.

1206
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: But otherwise the true road games are Mississippi State, Ole,

1207
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: MISS and MISSOO, which feels manageable. The rest of this

1208
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: thing is at home and obviously the Florida State game

1209
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: is neutral site in Orlando, though will be a strong

1210
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: Florida State contingent there, but LSU travels well. Yeah, So

1211
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I've got LSU in my

1212
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: SEC title game again. I've got them winning the West

1213
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: and going up and losing against Georgia just like they

1214
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: did last year. But I could obviously be talked off

1215
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: that I'm not. I'm not as confident in LSU as

1216
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: I am in Georgia. But it feels like with what

1217
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: they've got coming back and knowing that they did that

1218
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: in year one under Brian Kelly, the team only gotten better. Yep,

1219
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: they haven't gotten worse. So that leaves me feeling very

1220
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: optimistic about their chances of getting back to Atlanta.

1221
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw that depth, especially on defense tested

1222
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: last year where Brian Kelly had to overhaul everything via

1223
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: the portal. And by the end of last year, you know,

1224
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: Texas A and M decided finally to just give the

1225
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: ball to Devin h Chain seventy three times in that game.

1226
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: It spelt like it and else you got stumped. And

1227
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: so I think they have the depth to make up

1228
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: for some of those deficiencies that they saw last year.

1229
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: So I think, look, next year might even be more

1230
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: special for LSU. But as it stands now, with Jayden

1231
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: Daniels experience and what they returned successfully from last year

1232
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: and the young guys who got that experience, they're increased shape.

1233
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: My turn to go back to the East place. What

1234
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: interests you? Uh?

1235
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: You mentioned a Kentucky moment there, So let's talk Kentucky.

1236
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: Man. Kentucky's over under seven. They were seven and five

1237
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: last year. They got shut out twenty one zero in

1238
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: the bowl game in Iowa.

1239
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: Remember that one will happen? Yep?

1240
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: Oh god, I still can't believe that happened that game.

1241
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: Kentucky was an enigma last season because the offense. The

1242
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: offense had these incredible heights with Liam Cohen in twenty one,

1243
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: then last year kind of bottomed out. They were really

1244
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: bad on offense and a lot stemmed from the offensive line,

1245
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: which didn't get push no and also was playing a

1246
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: lot of guys out of position. Was a different offensive

1247
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: coordinator because Liam Cohen went to the NFL. Now Liam

1248
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Cohen is back. Now Liam Cohen is back, and he

1249
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: comes back at a great time because basically nobody on

1250
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: the Kentucky offense last year had a good season. Not

1251
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: will Levis, not any of the running backs. The defense,

1252
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: for its part, was really banged up and still one

1253
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: of the better defensive units in college from I think

1254
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: there were fourth in the SP plus something like that.

1255
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: Brad White did a great job with that defense. So

1256
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: now for me, the fascination, it's Liam and Leary, Dan,

1257
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: Liam and Larry, Liam and Leary, it is the law

1258
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: firm of Liam and Leary. William Cohen is back from

1259
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. Devon Leary transfers over from NC State. You

1260
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: could argue that Liam Cohen's system was the reason for

1261
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: all the ridiculous hype around will Levis. So I love

1262
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: the fact that now he comes back with another solid

1263
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in Devon Leary, who I wanted Notre Dame to

1264
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: get before Sam Hartman was an option. Yeah, Now it's

1265
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: like who's Devin Leary. I don't care about him. We

1266
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: got sam My Man.

1267
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: We've got Sam Hartman wearing bones of his own body

1268
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: around him, the bone.

1269
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: The bone collector, Sam Hartman. We can talk about that

1270
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: of the next episode. Love the aggressiveness, talk about an

1271
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: attacking mentality, put your own bones around your What a weirdo? Anyway. Anyway,

1272
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: you know where I stand in Devon Leary. I loved

1273
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: him before I I didn't love him as much because

1274
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know Sam Hartman was an option. But I'm

1275
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: really high on Leary, a's quarterback. I would love to

1276
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: see them turn Tavian Robinson into this year's one Dale

1277
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: Robinson the way they did a couple of years ago.

1278
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: I thought Tavian Robinson was going to be that guy

1279
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: last year, but the whole thing kind of collapsed. That

1280
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: was the idea last season. It didn't obviously materialize. I

1281
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: think this offense. Part of the reason why I'm pretty

1282
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: excited about it is that it probably is going to

1283
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: be more pass heavy than we're used to from Kentucky

1284
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: because it may take them a little bit to sort

1285
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: out their offensive line. We are used to seeing Kentucky

1286
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: be very physical upfront. They've done a good job building

1287
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: that line. They've done a good job running the football,

1288
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: and that has kind of unlocked the other elements of

1289
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: the offense. I think that will take a little bit

1290
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: of time to get sorted out. Even though they brought

1291
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: up a good transfer running back from Vanderbilt, even though

1292
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: they've got Ray Davis who ran for a thousand yards.

1293
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: I just think the line thing, the project up front

1294
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: will take some time to kind of get sorted out.

1295
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: They're moving guys back into what they feel is their

1296
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: rightful position this year. I don't want to get out

1297
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: over my skis because of that, but I think that

1298
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: will give Devin Leary and Liam Cone a chance to

1299
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: shine in the passing game, and the defense is going

1300
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: to be tough again. It seems like Mark Stoops has

1301
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: gotten this thing to a place now where it's steady

1302
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: the last five years. It's been top fifteen in the country.

1303
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: Last season, as I said earlier, all the way up

1304
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: to fourth even with injuries, and they had a lot

1305
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: of them on the defensive side of the ball. So

1306
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: the team is good. The team is solid, the team's

1307
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: in a good spot. The over under again its seven,

1308
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: which feels low. The schedule is tailor made to break

1309
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: in a new quarterback and Liam Cohen another new old

1310
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: coordinator situation in the SEC East and allows the offensive line.

1311
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: They've got ball State, They've got Eastern Kentucky, Akron and

1312
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt to open things up. You keep reading it though,

1313
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: and that's when it's like, did they get duped into

1314
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: signing onto this? Right? Did they really mean to do this?

1315
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: Because they've got Florida on the road, they've got Georgia

1316
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: those games back to back. There's a closing stretch of

1317
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Mississippi State, Alabama at South Carolina at Louisville

1318
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: for the Governor's Cup, so it picks up steam. You know,

1319
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: it's like well Scotland or somewhere over in the UK

1320
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: where they chase the big wheel of cheese down this

1321
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: very steep hill.

1322
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that sounds right. Yeah, they got it,

1323
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: took that up.

1324
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: It looked that up. It's one of those deals for

1325
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: the Kentucky schedule because you start building momentum and suddenly

1326
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: it's like you got to keep your feet moving otherwise

1327
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: the whole thing is just going to start tumbling out

1328
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: of control. I'm very excited about the offense. I'm very

1329
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: excited about Liam Cohen coming back. I think they've got

1330
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot back to be excited about where it counts.

1331
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: My only real questions about this team are upfront with

1332
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: the line and how long it takes them to get

1333
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: the whole. The whole, you know, run game integrated to

1334
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: make this thing feel like it's cohesive. But it's in

1335
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: front of Kentucky, and I am a betting man. I

1336
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: probably will go over on those seven wins just because

1337
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: it feels to me like there's value there. Even though

1338
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: it's a tough schedule. There's a lot of value we

1339
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: had because these are good players and good coaches, and

1340
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be down for two

1341
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: years in a row.

1342
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: On offense, the Cooper's Hill, cheese run and wake in Gloucester. Yeah,

1343
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: that's all I have for you. That's what I found.

1344
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: I think I like Kentucky the combination of quarterback and defense.

1345
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: Devin Learry didn't throw deep a ton at NC States

1346
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: when he was succeeding, and so if you add in

1347
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: creativity and promising receiving corps and hopefully an improved offensive line,

1348
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 2: scandals is brutal man.

1349
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: The schedule is tough, but that's that's why I like

1350
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: the fact that it starts slow. Sure, you know, gives

1351
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: them a chance to kind of break this thing in

1352
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: Okay and figure it out. And Liam Collin is a

1353
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: revelation the first time around. I know he was. He was.

1354
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: He was the reason that will Lepis was a number

1355
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: one overall pick?

1356
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: Or was it Wandale Cohen?

1357
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: Right? Probably was Wandale. Yeah, but Wills had a revelation

1358
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: in his one season. And you remember we had Nate

1359
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: Tyson and they were talking him up as a maybe

1360
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, a first round raft pick, and

1361
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: then he wasn't good. Suddenly wasn't good. William Cohen, he

1362
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: was hurt.

1363
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: Offensive line got worse, receivers got worse.

1364
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot to you know, process, it's nuanced, but

1365
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm very bolish in Kentucky. I'm going over that seven.

1366
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: They're a good team.

1367
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: Let's go back over to the West, Dan, I want

1368
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: to talk about Arkansas. Everybody I have left Arkansas, Razorbacks

1369
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: and Auburn. Yeah, Arkansas also over under a seven. They

1370
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: have a crazy stretch of games from Week four through

1371
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: Week seven when they go to LSU to a neutral

1372
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: site game against Texas A and M two Ole miss

1373
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: and two Alabama around things out talk about a four

1374
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: week stretch.

1375
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's start of Shinie Alfredo and Mississippi State in

1376
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 2: there as well. Who might be really good on defense,

1377
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: if not both sides of the ball. We'll see on

1378
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: Mississippi State. So it could be for a four game stretcher,

1379
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: Rooney could be five. They're tough obviously with the sudden

1380
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 2: tragic loss of Mike Leach and Zach Arnett being thrown

1381
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: into the mix as the new head coach, he makes

1382
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: the changes he makes, especially on offense with bringing in

1383
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: what's Kevin Barbee from app State. If that's how you

1384
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: pronounce it, I apologize if I got that wrong. They're

1385
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: going to be a lot less air raid. They're going

1386
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: to be a lot more conventional. I don't say that

1387
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: in a bad way, but things are shifting on offense.

1388
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: Will Rogers of course, has by and large thrived as

1389
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 2: an air raid quarterback, you know, helping to develop a

1390
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: number of really impressive receivers. Jaden Wally, I don't know

1391
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 2: if you have the sound at the ready. He is

1392
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: back once again, they lose ra Ra Thomas, who you

1393
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: mentioned is now at Georgia. Offensive line is good, but

1394
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: sometimes it's tough to evaluate air raid offensive lines because

1395
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 2: the ball's coming out so quickly and they're not running

1396
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: the ball in what we understand to be a conventional

1397
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: way of running the ball in twenty twenty three. So

1398
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that they will remain solid. The big thing

1399
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: is on defense, with who they return, Bookie Watson being

1400
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: one of the best linebackers in the country in the middle, like,

1401
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: they should be very very strong upfront on defense. The

1402
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: secondary is going to look different, but quarterback and defense

1403
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: as a starting place given the turmoil internally, and I

1404
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: don't mean that in a negative way like that, it

1405
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: was just you lose your head coach all of a

1406
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: sudden to such a tragic circumstance with Mike Leach and

1407
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: having the heart attack and passing away, and you're just like,

1408
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: that's horrific for a program.

1409
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: And so.

1410
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: It's what are they going to look like on the field?

1411
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 2: You know, what is the plan? What is the vision?

1412
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: You know as they transition. We talked about this, which

1413
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: I think is a far more dramatic sample with Georgia

1414
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 2: Tech moving away from a scheme that they played for

1415
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: so long. I think the continuity at quarterback and receiver

1416
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 2: and offensive line, I think is going to make this

1417
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 2: a little bit more seamless. But Apple State didn't have

1418
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: any incredible offense last year. It's not like they're bringing

1419
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: in the hottest coordinator name. They wanted to be more balanced.

1420
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: Zack Garnett, it's going to continue. You know, he promotes

1421
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 2: from within it defensive coordinator, So that's me. It's just

1422
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: a transition thing on offense. That's the fascinating thing about

1423
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: Mississippi State, in an extremely unusual circumstance in college football,

1424
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: with a coach passing away like like Michael Leach did so.

1425
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: First off, I gave you the time I was vamping

1426
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: to buy you time to get the sound.

1427
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Secondly, my point of fascination, Yeah, I

1428
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: don't know how you did it. I requested Arkansas and

1429
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: you did Mississippi State did. I really, I totally did.

1430
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: That was a pro transition. I didn't realize until I

1431
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: started talking.

1432
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: About Arnett do My mind was on one was on

1433
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: Mississippi State.

1434
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: Sorr. I apologize you did admirably. You did admirally. We

1435
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: can talk about Arkansas next.

1436
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: That's incredible. I apologize.

1437
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: I am a doof six and a half over under

1438
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: Frossissippi State. Yeah, obviously very challenging circumstances that this team

1439
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: is rebounding from. I think Zach Garnett was a good

1440
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: choice to continue the continuity of that program. This is

1441
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: a program that we've been generally pretty high on the

1442
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Anytime you switch away from one

1443
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: system to another, that's when things can get very interesting

1444
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: and go very sideways. You are right to point out

1445
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: that it is not Georgia Tech. It is not that

1446
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: drastic a situation. But the air raid in its own

1447
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: right requires different kinds of personnel. One of the things

1448
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: that comes up a lot when you read about the

1449
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: system that they're trying to move towards the tight end.

1450
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: Tight End has not really been an area of focus

1451
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: or Mississippi State. They were not used to running with

1452
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: that type of personnel. It'll take a bit to try

1453
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:48,839
Speaker 1: and develop that and get that more balanced mentality firing

1454
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. But you know, I root for Zach Arnett,

1455
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: I root form Misissippi State in your one.

1456
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: It's been a fun defense to watch, especially these past

1457
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: and I maybe two in the last three years through

1458
01:13:59,200 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: the last four years.

1459
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, if you're a Mississippi

1460
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: State fan, you get LSU at home, you get Alabama

1461
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: at home, you get Kentucky and Ole Miss at home.

1462
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: You also get Arizona at home in Week two, which

1463
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: is a game that I know. I've been calling out

1464
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: a lot of these Week two games because some of

1465
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: the matchups are really fun for SEC teams. Mississippi State

1466
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: Week two against Arizona, I think is not a game

1467
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: that anybody should overlook because Arizona is pretty set in

1468
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: its ways. On the offensive side of things, we know

1469
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: they can score. I think Mississippi State, regardless of the system,

1470
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: they'll be able to score in Arizona. But Arizona will

1471
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: be upset minded and if Mississippi State is trying some

1472
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,879
Speaker 1: new things that they're not fully comfortable with, that's potentially

1473
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: an upset Okay, potentially.

1474
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't know who's playing defense for Arizona.

1475
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, but they can score, and we

1476
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: know they can score.

1477
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 2: No, it's an interesting schedule. Where's the egg Bowl?

1478
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: This here? Egg Bowl is in Starkville.

1479
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, why don't you do Arkansas? Now I'm

1480
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: gonna do Arkansas. You requested Arkansas, you requested, you know

1481
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: in my mind, as soon as you said that, I'm like,

1482
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: all right, here we go. Here's my reminder, Danny, you

1483
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: knows Travis Williams. And then I was like, I'm just

1484
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: talking about it. Stayed I don't care.

1485
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: Well, look, I don't even care. Carroll me dig it.

1486
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 2: New fascinating thing. Arkansas is Mississippi State.

1487
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: We're up to twenty one points of fascination. Yeah, kJ

1488
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: Jefferson Rocket Sanders mm hmm. That in and of itself

1489
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: is a ding sure, probably the best returning quarterback and

1490
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: running back in the whole conference. Certainly the best returning tandem.

1491
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: That is your starting point on offense. Yeah, the question

1492
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: is Sam Pittman offensive line guru. Does he have what

1493
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: it takes to kind of reconstitute this line? And Arkansas

1494
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: had some real issues on defense last year that they

1495
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: need to sort out, especially against the schedule that they've

1496
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: got in front of him, that they're over under seven.

1497
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: I mentioned the crazy stretch before. I'll just repeat it

1498
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: again at LSU Texas A and m at Ole, miss

1499
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: at Alabama and then Mississippi State. You took it from

1500
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: Misissippi State, But let's play it back and reversibly can

1501
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: on the Arkansas side. Sure, the over under a seven.

1502
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Oh?

1503
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: Not amazing, Tye. Yeah, not amazing as it relates to

1504
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: an over because they had half an offensive line, which

1505
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: is very rare last year. Generally, if you have a

1506
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: good offensive line, you have a good offensive line. They

1507
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: opened up holes for Rocket Sanders, They did a ton

1508
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: of great things for this rushing attack. They got pushed.

1509
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: They couldn't protect kJ Jefferson. They just couldn't, and I

1510
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: know he was beat up at times, but they were

1511
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: one of the absolute worst teams that pressure is allowed,

1512
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: sacks allowed in the country. And so yes, you give

1513
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: Sam Pittman the benefit of the doubt in terms of

1514
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 2: what was you say, reconstituting right, getting this offensive line

1515
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: to a better place.

1516
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: Fifteen cent word for you.

1517
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty good, ty I admire that. But

1518
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 2: with how they're starting over at receiver on a certain

1519
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 2: level with because I think Rocket Sanders is their leading

1520
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 2: returning receiver I believe, and that it's a more in

1521
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: the same way the Mississippi State what they're trying to do.

1522
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: It's it's not as much like Kendall Briles is off

1523
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: to TCU and so Danny nos is more under center.

1524
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,480
Speaker 2: He's more roll out more pro concepts, heavier personnel packages

1525
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 2: that I think Arkansas is going to lean into what

1526
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 2: it does well, which should be running the ball with

1527
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: Rocket Sanders, and so I think they're going to continue

1528
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: to pursue that chunkiness, which is you know, it's Sam

1529
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: Pittman ball. I'm sure that's his preferred modus OPERENDI.

1530
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: Is that the term I had to look up, by

1531
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: the way, what m O stood for.

1532
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:42,879
Speaker 2: I think it's modus operandi.

1533
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: It does. I had looked that up like a year ago,

1534
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 1: which I'm not proud.

1535
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: Of, but that's okay.

1536
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: Continue.

1537
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 2: This is a safe space. And they were just horrendous

1538
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 2: last year stopping the pass and they're down their best

1539
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 2: defensive player and Drew Sanders, and so they hit the

1540
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: portal extremely hard. And it's a lot of it's not

1541
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 2: risky guys, but it's a lot of interesting ceilings, but

1542
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 2: unproven guys at major places. Plays like LSU and pitt

1543
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: I just I am worried with this schedule like this

1544
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: would have been a nice year to have been in

1545
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: a different conference for Arkansas to sort of regain their

1546
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: footing and dealing with a new you know, two new

1547
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,839
Speaker 2: coordinators with Barriot them off to UNLV. Bringing in Travis Williams,

1548
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: who did pretty good stuff at UCF. I think he's

1549
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: a good hire, a younger defensive mind. I just man,

1550
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: the lack of star power on defense, coupled with a

1551
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 2: new offense, coupled with new receiver, like there's just and

1552
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 2: the schedule. It's too much new and kind of what

1553
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: we talked about with Louisville, there's too much new with Arkansas.

1554
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: I think the offensive line will improve. I think kJ

1555
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 2: Jefferson will remain very very good. You just you need

1556
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 2: Winter wonder types, guys that are January level players to

1557
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: win in the SEC West, and I don't think Arkansas

1558
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: has enough of them in this moment.

1559
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: Why don't we stick in the SEC West and close

1560
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: things out? Then, Okay, we've got one team left. I

1561
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: just want to talk Misissippi State again. No, it's Auburn.

1562
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: It's Auburn. Auburn's got a new coach, Hugh Freeze. Six

1563
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: and a half over under. It is a super interesting

1564
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: schedule in that it's got maybe the most interesting stretch.

1565
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 1: It'll be tough, and I think Arkansas maybe maybe has

1566
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: a tougher stretch. But Auburn goes to A and M.

1567
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: They're back home against Georgia, then they're on a buy,

1568
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: then they're too LSU, and then they're back home against

1569
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: Old biss which is who Freeze's former team, which will

1570
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: be kind of interesting. They do have UMass, cal and

1571
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: Sanford to start the season, which kind of gives them

1572
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: a chance to self launch this new offense and get

1573
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: their new schemes up and running. But it toughens up

1574
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: in a hurry, and I don't know where Auburn is

1575
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: at in terms of roster construction. I know Hugh Freeze

1576
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: has done a pretty good job bringing in new talent,

1577
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 1: and I'm still very unsure about the quarterback position. My

1578
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: hunches at Auburn will probably be a little bit better

1579
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: then you might expect looking at that over under now.

1580
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: It's really just a function of the schedule making things

1581
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: really really difficult to get too much traction and go

1582
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: above you know, seven wins at most. Does that seem

1583
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: fair to you?

1584
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 2: I think so. Defense is interesting to me though, because

1585
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 2: I still I like Ron Roberts as a defensive coordinator.

1586
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 2: It was down a down last year for Baylor. I

1587
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: think Philip Montgomery. It's always sort of tricky when you

1588
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 2: go from head coach back to coordinator, like you are

1589
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: you ascending still as an offensive mine? I hope so,

1590
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: because you know, he's obviously been the co architect of

1591
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting offenses going back to his time

1592
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: at Baylor. Man, I don't know, you're talking about a

1593
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 2: Payton Thorne Robbie Ashford competition. You're talking about an offensive

1594
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 2: line that got a little bit better last year, but

1595
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: it's thin once again. Lack of receiver. Darkles Hunter's under

1596
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 2: investigation for an illicit tape and his status is up

1597
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: in the air because that was one of the things

1598
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: that you could sort of bank on with Auburn moving forward,

1599
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: right Tank Bigs be gone, dark Wis Hunter coming back

1600
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: after having a really nice year in twenty twenty two.

1601
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: There's so much nuanced defense. I think it was like

1602
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 2: ten defensive line transfer something like that, that there should

1603
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: be some depth. It's an interesting defense at the moment,

1604
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: but it's a defense that's starting over in so many

1605
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: different places that you could tell me Auburn wins nine.

1606
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: You could tell me Auburn wins four, and you could

1607
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 2: justify it pretty easily right now in this moment. So

1608
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: I think the fascinating thing about Auburn is not will

1609
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: they succeed. I think they will be a successful program.

1610
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: It's just which position group pops, which transfers pop. They're

1611
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: recruiting really really well right now, which would come as

1612
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: no surprise. Hugh Freeze is a very good recruiter. They're

1613
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: going head to head and winning battles against top schools.

1614
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: It's just right now, with so much knew, where is

1615
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: Auburn going to succeed immediately? If anywhere, like by week

1616
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 2: seven or eight, maybe it becomes interesting on defense and

1617
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: they're they're locking teams down. They had, you know, they

1618
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: got great play out of their secondary last year. There

1619
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: was a lot of fight in Auburn after obviously parting

1620
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: ways with Brian Harrison into the season. But man, I

1621
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: don't see obvious star power anywhere on this team as

1622
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: a group. There's a couple guys here and there, but

1623
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: to me, it's just what do they actually look like?

1624
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 2: What is the actual plan here?

1625
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: What I found across the board. Not just one publication,

1626
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: but a couple of them put Auburn very much near

1627
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: the bottom of the pack in most places. Yeah, quarterback, linebacker,

1628
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: defensive line. The things that are most troubling are, of

1629
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: course the trenches in the SEC. But you get the point.

1630
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: This is a roster that is being rebuilt in Hugh

1631
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: Freeze's image, and you know, lover hate the guy. As

1632
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 1: he said, he's a pretty talented recruiter. He's proven that

1633
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: he can do that at multiple stops. It's just not

1634
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: going to be an overnight fix. It's going to be

1635
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: something that takes a while, and I don't think it

1636
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: happens this year. With some of the names that I've

1637
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: seen at quarterback. I'm probably not as low on Robbie

1638
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: Ashford as as a lot. I think he showed some

1639
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: promise in action last season. I'm certainly not high on

1640
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: Peyton Thorn. But I just think it'll take time, and

1641
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: I hope Auburn people will give Hugh Freeze the time.

1642
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: I hope Hugh Freeze is kind of a different and

1643
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: change man kind of this time through and.

1644
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: Six and a half. Six and a half feels right.

1645
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: My revision is I think the secondary will be quite good.

1646
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: I really do think it's just hard to I like

1647
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: building a defense from the outside in, but I still

1648
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: think in the SEC you're going to need a good

1649
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 2: a good roster of talent up front to compete. If

1650
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: you want to get back to the place where Auburn

1651
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: expects to get back, which is Atlanta every early December.

1652
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the East and let's round things out.

1653
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: We've got three teams left here. We've got Miszoo, I've

1654
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: got Florida, and we've got Vandy.

1655
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,839
Speaker 2: Where you want to start, Let's go Florida.

1656
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 1: Oo, Florida.

1657
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm if I'm fascinated by Florida,

1658
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: but I definitely want to get them out of the way.

1659
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of meat on the bone with Florida.

1660
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: We're up to six. Yeah, twenty six points is what

1661
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: I've got. Arbitrarily, Florida was six and seven overall last season,

1662
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: six and six regular season, lost the Bowl to Oregon State.

1663
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: Florida's over unders five and a half this season, which,

1664
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: if you are an avid fan of college football, you

1665
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: hear that and you're kind of vexed by that. You know,

1666
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: your eyebrows go up a little bit when you hear

1667
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: five and a half. Right. Really, the most fascinating thing

1668
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: about Florida this season, I think is the macro versus

1669
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: the micro. The bigger picture, zoomed out view of this

1670
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: program is I think that Billy Napier is trying to

1671
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: turn around an aircraft carrier and it is not something

1672
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: that you can do quickly. It is going to take

1673
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: time because Dan Mullen was basically asleep at the wheel

1674
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: at least in the recruiting game.

1675
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: As a recruiter. Yeah, which they do.

1676
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: They have like the number three current like class in

1677
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Yeah, it's up there. I haven't seen

1678
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: the exact ranking, but it's top five. It's top five.

1679
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Billy Napier is doing a very very good job in

1680
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: this department, but it is just not going to be

1681
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that he can do with the

1682
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: snap of a finger. It's going to take some time.

1683
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: On paper, this season I think looks like rock bottom.

1684
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: This looks like the bottom of the barrel. When everything

1685
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: from this point forward starts to trend in a better direction.

1686
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: That is the macro view. Now, the SEC is not

1687
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: necessarily a conference for macro fans. Okay, everything is very

1688
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: contained to the season. And if you don't meet expectations,

1689
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 1: and if they don't meet expectations this season on the

1690
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: heels of not meeting them last season, will there be

1691
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: more cries to try? And you know, I don't know,

1692
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: change the coach. I hope not. I don't think so.

1693
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: I think Florida fans are more reason. But it is

1694
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: the sec and stranger things have happened on the more

1695
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: micro level, which is what we are here to talk about.

1696
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Graham Ertz is quarterback rating. Yeah, Graham Mertz is quarterback.

1697
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: And he's playing behind a line that's got four new starters.

1698
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: He's got a receiving corps with three of its top

1699
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: five gone. I like the running backs, as you called

1700
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: out right, Montreal Johnson, Trevor etn both very solid at

1701
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: running back. I suppose they will be the focal point

1702
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: of this offense unless Graham Mertz is reborn. I I

1703
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: still have hope he can get back to the guy

1704
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: who threw five touchdowns against Stop. You were banned from

1705
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 1: INVOTINGI you were banned. The records were destroyed. That quarterback

1706
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: is still in them.

1707
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: So it was a very specific fire and a bit

1708
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: in Rosemont, Illinois. The Big ten HQ lost all recordings

1709
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: of that moment.

1710
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like an offense with a lot

1711
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: of pop to me. Okay, I like the running back room,

1712
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: but that's kind of it. I don't like Graham Mertz

1713
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: as the quarterback who can step in and kind of

1714
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: take this offense to new heights. I think this is

1715
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: a transition year.

1716
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: Okay, is what this is.

1717
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Defensively, it's a new coordinator in Austin Armstrong. They poached

1718
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: him from Bama. This was another one of those deals

1719
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: where he was there for a few days and then

1720
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He is the youngest coordinator in major college football,

1721
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, which makes us feel really old. Now.

1722
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: Dan hold On, a twenty nine year old was born

1723
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: some quick math here ninety two four four.

1724
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1725
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it wasn't around for the Barcelona Olympics and

1726
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: the Dream Team continue god World across the board.

1727
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: This is a young defense, so maybe it's fitting that

1728
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: they've got a really young defensive coordinator to lead them

1729
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: into battle. I think what you see, by and large,

1730
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: with most of these young defenses that have a ton

1731
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: of talent, they're still trying to assemble them into a

1732
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 1: cohesive group. You see flashes some weeks and not others,

1733
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: and mistakes, and hopefully you see improvement throughout the course

1734
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: of a season. I'm encouraged by the talent. Starting with

1735
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: this level of talent on defense is a good place

1736
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: to be. Who's going to be this year's or the

1737
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: next Chamar James is like the type of question you

1738
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: start asking who is going to pop this year like

1739
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: he popped last year as a freshman at linebacker. Yeah,

1740
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's the question for me across the

1741
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: board the point of fascination will ding it again? Chamar James,

1742
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: I'll just name drop why not? Yeah, I know names.

1743
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm a podcaster. Yeah, that's where I'm out this team.

1744
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: This is a team that is very very very much

1745
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: still in transit, and it's going to take a little

1746
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: bit for the talent to get there. It's going to

1747
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: take a little bit for this whole project to start

1748
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: bearing fruit for billiy Napier. But I do believe he

1749
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: is the guy. I believe he is the right guy

1750
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: for this project because he has done a really good

1751
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: job in the recruiting game. I was not sure last season.

1752
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I was not sure in the early part of the

1753
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 1: off season, and the quarterback thing is still very confusing

1754
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: to me. That he couldn't do better than Graham Bert's

1755
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: unless he sees something that nobody else saw and if

1756
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: he did good on him.

1757
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Okay, that part to.

1758
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Me is a little bit confounding. However, everything else has

1759
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: been very positive. All the underlying signals here are that

1760
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: the Florida project will be in due time. Maybe next

1761
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: year we will see a big jump forward. Maybe it'll

1762
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: take two years, but it seems as if it is

1763
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: trending in a very good direction. Billy Napier has been

1764
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: a guy who in his time with what we saw

1765
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: a Louisiana, he was able to develop players. He was

1766
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: able to build a good defense, He was able to

1767
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: build a team in the way that you want to

1768
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: build a team that it is built for the long haul.

1769
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: So I still have faith in him. The schedule's brutal, though,

1770
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll play it. It's brutal here. I just

1771
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: found the.

1772
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 2: Sound I appreciate.

1773
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: It's Utah Week one in Salt Lake. It is Utah

1774
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: Week one in Salt Lake. I count three wins, three

1775
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: surefire wins. Let me say, okay, three surefire wins. I

1776
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: think this is a five and seventeen. Damn wow. And

1777
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: that is a reversal for me because when we did

1778
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: the schedule preview, I said five and a half. Give

1779
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: me the over. It's Florida, what could happen? Give me

1780
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: the over? This is a five and seventeen. Florida has

1781
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: a tough game every odd numbered week, another ding every

1782
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: odd numbered week. They have a tough game. Week one

1783
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: open at Utah, two weeks later it's home against Tennessee.

1784
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: Two weeks later, they're at Kentucky. Then they're at South

1785
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: Carolina two weeks later. Then after that two weeks it's Georgia.

1786
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: The Georgia game obviously very tough, two weeks later at LSU.

1787
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 1: Two weeks later they close out the Florida State.

1788
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 2: Also, Arkansas State's in Gainsville.

1789
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Florida State's in Gainesville. Also, they've got Arkansas on

1790
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 1: a letdown look ahead spot in between Georgia and LSU,

1791
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: two teams obviously that we that we think will be contenders.

1792
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 1: So Florida is really getting the worst of everything this

1793
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: year because they are in a transition with their talent

1794
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: and trying to assemble the masses. They also have just

1795
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 1: a brutal schedule. This is tough no matter who it is.

1796
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 2: Five and seven, five and seven, there's your Florida fascination.

1797
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's go Vandy, because you know what I think,

1798
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 2: it's it's rude to finish with Vandy after beating Florida

1799
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 2: and a Kentucky Yes last year, five and.

1800
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 1: Seven last year, and they're over Yeah, they're over under

1801
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: three and a half. Now. My point of fascination is

1802
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: that over under. It is specifically that over under because

1803
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Vandy has a lot back on both sides of the ball.

1804
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: The entire offensive line is back, and they start with

1805
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: four winnable games in Hawaii, Alabama A and M wake

1806
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Forest and un LV. Yes, there is a chance that

1807
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 1: Vandy wins all four of those games and hits the

1808
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: over through certainly the first four weeks of the season.

1809
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I could also see him pushing a team like MISSOO,

1810
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: maybe Auburn, maybe South Carolina. Getting to four wins seems

1811
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: very very doable if you ask me. So I'm on

1812
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: the over Vanderbilt. I've been putting out these tweets on

1813
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: our social accounts asking people who's your bet, who are

1814
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: you picking in the Pac twelve and the Big dwell whatever.

1815
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: Vandy's probably my pick in the SEC. I feel pretty

1816
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: good about that. Over defensively, the line is very deep,

1817
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: which is now something I'm used to saying about Vanderbilt football.

1818
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: But clark Lee has done a really good job beefing

1819
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: up that side of things, which of course we know

1820
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: you need to do if you're playing in the SEC.

1821
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 2: That deep line was responsible for the one hundred and

1822
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 2: twenty fifth best pressure rate last year.

1823
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Ninety fourth overall defense in the SP plus. So this

1824
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: is not to imply that they were good last season.

1825
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I think they're older. I think they're older another year

1826
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: clark Lee is I think we respect him as a

1827
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: defensive guy, Yeah, for sure, and I think they will

1828
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,839
Speaker 1: be better on that side of the ball. Aj Swan

1829
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: is now definitively the quarterback. He might be limited by

1830
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 1: the defense on the other side, putting him in bad

1831
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 1: situations having to play from behind. Maybe he'll put up numbers,

1832
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 1: maybe you won't. But I just feel better about this

1833
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Vandy team than I did a season ago. I don't

1834
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 1: know if they win more than five games, probably not,

1835
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 1: but over three and a half feels pretty good to me.

1836
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: They have that really conducive stretch in the beginning part

1837
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: of the season that makes me feel good about that

1838
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: over So that's from mile with Vandy. I think they

1839
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 1: could be better, but the record could be worse, all.

1840
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 2: Right, fair enough that you know where Vandy really needs

1841
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 2: to improve. I mean, aside from everywhere. One of the

1842
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: places that you didn't mention, Vandy is like a school

1843
01:33:58,280 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: that is primed to just like, can you throw by

1844
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: money at special teams? They had terrible special teams last year.

1845
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 2: Can you throw a bunch of effort at finding a

1846
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 2: great kicker and being the best kickoff coverage team and

1847
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 2: punt coverage team and focus energy? Like it sounds sort

1848
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 2: of defeatist, but I think one of those things where

1849
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 2: when you go from three to seven wins, you need

1850
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 2: to hit on every margin. And that to me is

1851
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 2: especially with what an up and down you're like you're

1852
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: kind of neutral, if not a little bit down on

1853
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 2: South Carolina and Florida and certainly like a Kentucky offense

1854
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 2: that is very much in need of rejuvenation, Like there

1855
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 2: you haven't You're going to finish with Miszoo right now,

1856
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 2: Like there are wins to be had, and the way

1857
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:45,839
Speaker 2: that you can absolutely secure those wins is not screwing

1858
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 2: up on special teams.

1859
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: In Shane Beemer's first season for South Carolina, right, it's

1860
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: a great example. Beamer Ball is known for its aptitude

1861
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: on special teams. They went from eightieth in special teams

1862
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: SP plus all the way up to ninth in his

1863
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: first season. Last season they were number one, number one.

1864
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: Saw that number one. So they've improved both seasons. There's

1865
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: nowhere to go but down for Shane Beamer this season. Right.

1866
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: But obviously as a special teams coach himself and somebody

1867
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: who comes from that, from that lineage, he knows how

1868
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 1: to coach special teams, and that is one way you

1869
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 1: can make up those margins.

1870
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 2: When you're sitting on a lead, a lead that doesn't

1871
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 2: come super frequently, and you punt the ball back to

1872
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 2: a team's own twenty seven and you tackle them at

1873
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 2: the twenty nine, that's incredible that you need to force

1874
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 2: them to go whatever seventy one yards. When you give

1875
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 2: up a thirty eight yard punt return in that spot,

1876
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: that means you are trying to lose yep. And so

1877
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 2: that's where I think there are along the margin places

1878
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: where a lot of these teams you mentioned Arizona that

1879
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: have had these like super duper down years, throw a

1880
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 2: little extra energy at special teams to secure four instead

1881
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 2: of two, six instead of three, that kind of thing.

1882
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one other point there on the South

1883
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: Carolina front, they were sixteenth and fifteenth respectively, an offensive

1884
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,759
Speaker 1: and defensive starting field position, and that is a function

1885
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: to some extent of special teams.

1886
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Yes, the hidden yards.

1887
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt did not have. That is much much farther down

1888
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: on that ladder, So a lot to improve. Look, this

1889
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 1: this is always going to be a long term project.

1890
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: We know clarkly really wanted that Vandy job, which is awesome.

1891
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: It's awesome to have somebody there who doesn't necessarily view

1892
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: it as a stepping stone. Not to say he couldn't

1893
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: go elsewhere, but we know he really wanted that job,

1894
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: of course. And the fact that he's got it now

1895
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: and that's he's done what he's done in a very

1896
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: short period of time at Vandy, I think is really exciting.

1897
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: But it's tough a tough road there. I'm still on

1898
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: the over though, I'm still in the over.

1899
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 2: I think I am too.

1900
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: Close things out with Miszoo to point number I don't know,

1901
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Let's say, Yeah, my question for Mazoo is

1902
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,560
Speaker 1: I wrote this down. I'm reading this verbatim. Well, the

1903
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: real Zoo offense please stand up.

1904
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh, don't do that. That's our reference from nineteen ninety eight.

1905
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: We're nineties kids, man, that's what we are.

1906
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: Were barely the reference is barely older than Austin Armstrong.

1907
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: Ty, Austin Armstrong is listening to this, like, what the

1908
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 1: hell are these guys talking us? Yeah, Eli Drinkwitz had

1909
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: the reputation as the offense of Guru, and we just

1910
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 1: haven't seen that magic. We still don't really know what

1911
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: the philosophy of this offense is or what it's supposed

1912
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: to be. And they've got a good receiver room this season.

1913
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a good line. I'm not

1914
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Speaker 1: frightened by any home run hitters in the backfield. Also,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback situation kind of feels like a mess YEP.

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Speaker 1: So the coach, Eli Drinkwitz has been calling the offense. Now,

1917
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Speaker 1: he hired an offensive coordinator to help establish an identity.

1918
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Speaker 1: It's Kirby Moore, who I just learned as the younger

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Speaker 1: brother of Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, did you know that?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 1: Kirby Moore, who was at Fresno, was a younger brother

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Speaker 1: and receiver for Boyse and is obviously in the in

1925
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Speaker 1: the Bright coaching family. That is the Kellen Moore Kirby

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Speaker 1: Moore thing. He said they want to play with more tempo.

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Speaker 1: It's unclear to me what that scheme looks like for

1928
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Speaker 1: a Miszoo. Brady Cook Perr Eli Drinkwitz has opened camp

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Speaker 1: as the number one quarterback. Eli Drinkwitz is also very

1930
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Speaker 1: careful to not give the job to Brady Cook, which

1931
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Speaker 1: probably tickled many Miszoo fans pink because I don't think

1932
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Speaker 1: most of them want Brady Cook to be the starter.

1933
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Speaker 1: I think they'd rather be Sam Horn. I think they'd

1934
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Speaker 1: rather be Jake Garcia. But I think everybody's got a

1935
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Speaker 1: fairly clear idea of what the Brady Cook ceiling looks like,

1936
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Speaker 1: and it's time to go a different direction. But who knows.

1937
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Speaker 1: Who knows? He does have a lot of experience. There

1938
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: were moments where Brady Cook looked pretty good, But it

1939
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Speaker 1: just feels to me to me like maybe Sam Horn's

1940
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Speaker 1: a better option at this point, just throwing that out there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough.

1942
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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. I think the defense, though, will

1943
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 1: be lights out. The defense will be good. The defense

1944
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: was a top twenty unit in the SPPLUS last season.

1945
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: I think more gains this season. My problem really with

1946
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: Mazoo is the over under six and a half. I

1947
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: don't see seven wins. I could possibly believe in six

1948
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: wins after a few drinks, but seven wins, seven wins,

1949
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Speaker 1: dog ain't happening. I'm going under dog, okay, under missou

1950
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: because I don't believe in the offensive identity. Maybe Kirby

1951
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: Moore can get him there, but I don't believe that

1952
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Speaker 1: they've got the manpower to really take any big strides

1953
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 1: on offense. And it's a tough schedule, it's a.

1954
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 2: Tough Fresno's offense was more about efficiency than explosiveness last

1955
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 2: year and so both good and bad. And Jake Hayter

1956
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 2: was hurt so but his numbers were very, very good

1957
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Speaker 2: in terms of developing as an efficient quarterback when healthy.

1958
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Speaker 2: Hopefully that rings true for Brady Cook or whoever is

1959
01:39:56,280 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 2: playing quarterback for Massoo this year. But yeah, I think

1960
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Speaker 2: it's a decent starting place with the big caveat being

1961
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Speaker 2: quarterback needs to work because if you have the receivers,

1962
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Speaker 2: if you have the defense. There you mentioned why it

1963
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Speaker 2: somewhere around top twenty in the country, and I saw

1964
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,600
Speaker 2: they were top twenty in points per drive allowed. So

1965
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Speaker 2: they're starting from a decent place. It's just everybody coming together.

1966
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Speaker 2: It's just a cohesion question.

1967
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Speaker 1: And look, they've played hard for Eli Drinquitz and they

1968
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 1: lose stupidly. They lose stupidly, and they play hard. They

1969
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: find themselves an interesting So they were in a very

1970
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 1: interesting game against Georgia last year. Of course, one of

1971
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Speaker 1: those deals where you see it on the bottom line

1972
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: and you wonder, this is there like a problem with

1973
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: the network that it didn't update. Why is the score

1974
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: of this this close? And so they play for this guy,

1975
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Speaker 1: they really do. He's enthusiastic. I like him as a coach.

1976
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting and I wonder how long they are

1977
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: willing to wait for this offense to take flight. That's

1978
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Speaker 1: just you know, he's proven that he can bring some

1979
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: talent to the equation, right, Yeah, he brought in big

1980
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: talent from the state of Missouri and he's done. Luther

1981
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 1: Burden there moved him to the slot. I mean, it

1982
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: could be a pretty good season for him, and he's

1983
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Speaker 1: done a good job making it a bit of a

1984
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: transfer destination. He has been good at doing that, but

1985
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Speaker 1: as a consistent high school recruiter, getting this talent infused

1986
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: into the lineup has not been his specialty, and certainly

1987
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,600
Speaker 1: getting this offense to a place of consistency has not

1988
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Speaker 1: been something he's done well with either. I don't know.

1989
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm out of Mizoo. In terms of

1990
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Speaker 1: the over under, I don't see them hitting seven wins.

1991
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Speaker 2: So your SEC championship game is between LSU and Georgia.

1992
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Speaker 1: LSU and Georgia. I'm going Georgia.

1993
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Alabama. Georgia and I'm gonna go I'm

1994
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Speaker 2: gonna go Alabama. I meet him two years ago in

1995
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Speaker 2: this game with the Heisman Jrovi winning quarterback. I'm gonna

1996
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Speaker 2: go Obama. It feels weirdly safe, even though Alabama's going

1997
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,799
Speaker 2: through what they're going through in terms of offensive change,

1998
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 2: quarterback uncertainty, and not having the obvious on offense like

1999
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Speaker 2: they had you know a short time ago. Wow, Yeah,

2000
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Speaker 2: Tommy Reese successful? Why not?

2001
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Speaker 1: That would be a story. Is Tyler Bucker the quarterback?

2002
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Speaker 2: I mean no, I don't think he is.

2003
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Speaker 1: That's probably good.

2004
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Speaker 2: I think he's a depth play resis.

2005
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Speaker 1: There?

2006
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Speaker 2: It is, ty You're quick. You're in mid season form

2007
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Speaker 2: here on the board. I had to pull it up

2008
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Speaker 2: on the board.

2009
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Speaker 1: It takes a little bit to load it in. Okay,

2010
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Speaker 1: but you bought me efficient time. You vamped accordingly thirty

2011
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2012
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2014
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2029
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Speaker 2: I have nothing to add to this other than I

2032
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Speaker 2: wish I were going to a game at LAUSU this year.

2033
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