1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: If I am six forty, you're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: on the radio from one until four every day, and 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: then after four o'clock you miss something, you missed all 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: of it. You go to the iHeart app for the 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: John and Ken on demand podcast. That's what you do, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: and we have record breaking numbers as we close. May 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: April is a big record by far, May is even bigger, 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and it's because you can listen now twice. You can 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: listen to the show when it runs, and then all 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: the parts you miss you could listen later on or 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: for the first time. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: So that's good. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Now Ken is away today, but we have a lot 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: of stuff here and we're gonna start with the same 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: story we started with yesterday. No no, I think I 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: think we did this in the two o'clock hour, but 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: it's time we do it now because I think every 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: listener ought to know of this story because out side 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: of Build millusion with Fox News, nobody in Los Angeles 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: media is covering this. And this is really curious because 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: this is an outrageous, violent story that ended in murder, 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: and it is another example of the psychopath George Gascone 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: and his policies that create death. No other way to 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: put it, but Gascone's policies actually kill people, and we 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: have a prime example. So if you haven't heard this, 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: and you probably haven't unless you were listening at the 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: exact moment. The Bill Malusian was on with US yesterday, 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: he had an exclusive with Fox News about Stephan Sutherland. 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Stephan Sutherland back in twenty twenty slashed a construction worker's 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: neck because he didn't like the noise the worker was making, 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: and the guy nearly died he almus bled out, barely 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: made it. Now, that's obviously attempted murder, right, slash a 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: guy in the neck. The motivation was the noise is 35 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: bothering you? 36 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: Obvious. Obviously. 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: This is the guy who ought to be locked up, 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: but Gascone's office instead sought mental health diversion, mental health diversion. 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: So on May twenty third, just a week and a 40 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: day ago, Sutherland, after spending no time in prison, no 41 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: time in prison, shot Jennifer Gomez nineteen times in her home. 42 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Same reason, noise. He didn't like the noise she was 43 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: making in her apartment, which was situated over Sutherland. Now 44 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: There's no question Jennifer Gomez would be alive today if 45 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Gascone hadn't sent Sutherland to mental health diversion after nearly 46 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: murdering a construction worker. So this is my Gascon is 47 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: a psychopath because he allows this violence to flourish without 48 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: any conscience at all, without any compassion, any regret, nothing, 49 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: and when he's called on it, he reacts in bizarre ways. 50 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: And I'll explain that in a moment. 51 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: That would Sutherland slash that construction worker's neck, he should 52 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: have been charged with attempted murder. Anybody disagree attempted murder. Instead, 53 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: he was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Big 54 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: difference there, because now it's been classified as an assault 55 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: and it gives Gascon a loophole to go for mental 56 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: health diversion. Now, when Malusia first contacted Gascone's office, the 57 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: statement was the defendant in this case met the special 58 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: eligibility quite criteria for mental health diversion. Now, remember, if 59 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: it was an attempted murder charge, that wouldn't be on 60 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: the table. But what they did is they engineered a 61 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: lesser charge so he could go to mental health diversion. 62 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: A court appointed psychologist deemed him suitable for the treatment program, 63 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: and our deputy district attorney agreed to the defense request 64 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: for mental health diversion. What's the name of that deputy 65 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: DA And was he doing it under Gascone's orders because 66 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: gascon had a policy which led force prosecutors down this road, 67 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: Guestcones spokesperson continued in the statement. The court approved the 68 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: treatment plan and deemed the defendant safe for community treatment. 69 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: The defendant participated for nearly two years in the treatment 70 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: program without issue. We are saddened by the most recent allegation. 71 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Our hearts go out to the victim. Well, the victim's dead. 72 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: Your heart goes out to a dead woman that you killed. 73 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Whoa and those who loved them? Well, it's a her. 74 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: And this is said at the time of the writing. 75 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: I should check the update. They set up a GoFundMe 76 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: account to help with Gomez his funeral expenses, but they 77 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: only point this was written. It was just three hundred dollars. Well, 78 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: you know this hardly got any publicity. You had to 79 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: be watching Fox News at the exact moment that Bellugin's 80 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: story ran, or you had to hear our show yesterday. 81 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: I just five minutes before we went on the air. 82 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: Nobody else is covering this. Nobody not Channel two, four, five, seven, nine, eleven, thirteen, 83 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: not CNN, not the Los Angeles Times, not the Los 84 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Angeles Daily News, uh not any of the local neighborhood papers. 85 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: Nobody. So is this is this the new Is this 86 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: new way to protect Gascon? Is? 87 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: So? 88 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 1: He does something that's absolutely reprehensible in any other time 89 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: would have him forced out as district attorney. I mean, 90 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, in any other time in our American history, 91 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: a prosecutor, a district attorney who did this would be 92 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: forced out. You would have every single person in politics, 93 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: at everybody in the media clamoring for his career demise. 94 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: This is so Regis and it's not his first time. 95 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: Another thing we'll get to later. Uh Mallusion talked with 96 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: John Lewin, who we've had on the show many times. 97 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: John Lewin is deput DYA. He's most recently known he 98 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: put Robert Durst behind bars, and Lewin explained the trick 99 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: that psychopath Gascon uses. Quote one of the things Gascon 100 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: does is manipulate things with the charging. You make it 101 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: a discount assault with a deadly weapon. It doesn't look 102 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: as bad as attempted murder. I'd never heard of put 103 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: that way before. Murderers get discounts now. Ah, that wasn't 104 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: attempted murder. That was assault with the deadly weapon. And 105 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: as John Lewin says, you then you give him mental 106 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: health diversion. Eric Saindall is quoted by illusion as well. 107 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: We've had him on the show many times. He's vice 108 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: president of the LA County Association of Deputy District Attorneys. 109 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: He says this has been going on on the state 110 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: and local level because of the elected officials. He says, 111 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: by all estimation, this person did actually have a serious 112 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: mental health condition. But you can't just put someone who 113 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: stabbed someone back on the street. That's not a solution. 114 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: It's irresponsible. See, it could be a mental health issue 115 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: and a crime, and you have to go to prison 116 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: for the crime, and you have to go to prison, 117 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: so you're not on the streets stabbing anybody else. Apparently 118 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: two years of mental health diversion had no effect. 119 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: Nothing. 120 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: So what went on? Who is this court psychologist? Who 121 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: are these people's names? Who is the deputy DA, Who 122 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: is the judge? Who is the court psychologist? We're paying 123 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: all these people. We're paying the psychologist, we're paying the 124 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: deputy DA, we're paying Gascone. And how many other people 125 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: got this treatment. Well, we know somebody else did recently. 126 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: This is the second time in recent weeks. Milusian reported 127 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: last month that a woman with a violent history of 128 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: using knives and assaults got multiple diversions, no prison time, 129 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: and then was arrested for stabbing somebody to death. And 130 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: here's this story. Her name was Jade Brookfield. She was 131 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: arrested in April and charged with murder after she fatally 132 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: stabbed forty year old Dennis Banner during an argument in 133 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the street. Brookfield had a lengthy criminal history for alleged assault, 134 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: assault with the deadly weapon. There's that again, multiple violent 135 00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:00,119 Speaker 1: felonies with knives, but inexplicably avoided incarceration and was repeated 136 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: given mental health diversions. 137 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: So this is. 138 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Now two dead innocent people in a month because of 139 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: George Gascone's policies. Two Gascone has responded again to build illusion. Basically, 140 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: the middle finger is the best way to put it. 141 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: And we'll tell you about it when we come back. 142 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: John and Ken show. 143 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: I you're listening to John and Ken on demand from 144 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: KFI Am six forty. 145 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: We've been giving you the story the Bill millusion at 146 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: Fox News about the latest psycho killer, Stephen Sutherland. He 147 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: killed a woman, Jennifer Gomez, shot her nineteen times. Nineteen 148 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: times has happened eight days ago. He didn't like the 149 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: noise that she made up stairs in her apartment. He 150 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: was down below. This was the second time he tried 151 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: to kill somebody. First time he succeeded that we know of, 152 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: but second time he tried over noise. Because in November 153 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he slashed a construction worker in the neck. 154 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: That poor guy nearly bled out because once again Stephan 155 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Sutherland was upset over the noise. George Gascone psychopath sought 156 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: mental health diversion, and he intentionally did not charge him 157 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: with attempted murder even though it was obviously attempted burder. 158 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: He made an assault with the deadly weapon, gave him 159 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: an opening to not send him to prison instead for 160 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: slashing a random construction worker in the net and nearly 161 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: killing him. Zero prison time two years of mental health diversion, 162 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: which was a failure. In fact, if that's the program, 163 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: they should close it that psychologist ought to be fired, 164 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: the judge ought to be recalled. I want to I 165 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: want to wish the Deputy DA would reveal himself and 166 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:26,239 Speaker 1: tell us whether Gascone forced him into letting uh Sutherland 167 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: be charged with only assault with the deadly weapon. And 168 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: in a statement that we read to you, Gascone blamed 169 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: everybody else except himself. He said, Hey, this is what 170 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: the Deputy DA did. Hey, it was a court psychologist. Hey, 171 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: this is what the judge decided to sentence everybody else. 172 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 2: And you know, I read you. 173 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: His his state before and he acknowledged Jennifer Gomez's death 174 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: and says, we're saddened by the most recient allegations, and 175 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: our hearts go out to the victim and those who 176 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: love them, and of course Jennifer Gomez is her. And 177 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: I wondered, gee, did they just cut and paste a 178 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: boilerplate statement from some other murder that had multiple victims? 179 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: Do they? I bet you that's what they have. 180 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: They have the the obvious boilerplate statement that the stinking 181 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: line spokeshole sends out in a press release. So that 182 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Gut's gone and his and his uh his lackeys can 183 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: officially offer their condolences. Well, that was part of the 184 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: first statement. Here's the second statement. After Milusion posted these 185 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: news stories, was in the form of tweets at first 186 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: and then formerly on Fox News and on the website. 187 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: George Gascone responds, I don't know if he wrote this 188 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: or not, but he wrote, thanks for tagging us. Fox 189 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: News recently settled an historic billion dollar case with Dominion, 190 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: allegedly reaffirming its commitment to high journalistic standards. Sadly, it 191 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: appears that you're continuing to use your platform to sensationalize 192 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: serious tragedies. What does the Dominion case have to do 193 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: with this? Stephen Sutherland murdered murdered Gomez Jennifer Gomez because 194 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: you let Sutherland out, you didn't send him to prison 195 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: for the attempted murder of the construction worker. What's that 196 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: got to do with Fox News or the Dominion voting. See, 197 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: Gascone is a snake and a weasel. Mallusion had nothing 198 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: to do with the Dominion case. 199 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: Maligion had nothing to do. 200 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: He did did that that disease in LA He didn't 201 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: report on that. Everything in maligions story is true. This 202 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: really happened. I mean Jennifer Gomez is really dead. She's 203 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: got nineteen bullet holes in her. The construction worker nearly 204 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: had his head torn off and bled out. That's real, 205 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: that happened. I mean, do we have to take Guesscoing 206 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: to the morgue. This is not something Fox News made up. 207 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: This is not something that allusion made up. This is 208 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: something that happened. There's a police record on this. And 209 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: then he repeats the defendant was assessed and approved for 210 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: treatment and released by mental health experts and a judge. No, 211 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: you sought mental health diversion. You undercharged him on purpose. 212 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: You're trying to fool everybody with your manipulations and lies. 213 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: The eligibility for mental health diversion is governed by state law. 214 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: If you under charge an attempted murderer, then you can 215 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: give him diversion. But you chose to undercharge him. 216 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: You committed this act. 217 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Here the deputy district Deturney who handled this matter, applied 218 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: the law, and you see how he does. He has 219 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: a false preface here. Gascone is responsible for not charging 220 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: Sutherland with attempted murder. So they downgraded the charge and 221 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: then they say, well, you know we're allowed by law 222 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: to do this, and that relied upon the expertise of 223 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: a trained psychologist in making their determination. 224 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Trained. 225 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: Notice the manipulative words he puts in bolts of trained psychologists. 226 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: He's trained. You're not you to judge. I don't know. 227 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: A guy slices somebody's neck wide open and then shoots 228 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: another woman nineteen times? Do I have to be a 229 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: trained psychologist to say that he ought to be locked 230 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: up in prison? Do I have to have a law 231 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: degree to say that? Our prosecutors have very difficult jobs. 232 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: They work hard in every case to make decisions that 233 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: will create lasting safety in our communities. 234 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: Oh stop it. 235 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: This is the second one in a month, and god 236 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: knows how many others are out there. And when we 237 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: learned last week there's ten thousand and ten thousand cases 238 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: that Gasconde has even bothered to prosecute, piled up on 239 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: everybody's desk, probably not piled up. It is inaccurate to 240 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: politicize this strategy, this tragedy. 241 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: Who politicize it? There's no politics in this. 242 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: And to mislead viewers by suggesting that the policy of 243 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: gascon had anything to do with this outcome, well absolutely 244 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: they did. It's clear, and we are saddened by the 245 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: recent events. Our hearts go out to the victims and 246 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: those who loved her. Oh I guess they changed their 247 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: cut and paced statement and realized now there was only 248 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: one victim. Cheap, manipulative garbage. And again every TV local 249 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: news station in the town refused to cover this, and 250 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: every newspaper has refused to cover this. 251 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: Why is that? Who's who's why? Why? 252 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Why is every Why is every? Is everyone in the 253 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: media so preciously progressive that they won't tell any more 254 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: truth about gascon? Most of the stations were joining in, 255 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: why why not anymore? What's the story here? Is this 256 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: something about Sutherland? Some kind of racial statement the stations 257 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: are making. 258 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: What is it? 259 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Anything's possible? Now, I just I just cannot believe this. 260 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: This egregious, horrific, murderous decision by Gascone is getting so 261 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: little coverage it makes me think something's up beyond this. 262 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: All right, but we're gonna stay on top of this. 263 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: I know Gascone's office listens. I'm sure they do. We're 264 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: not going away because Gascone is an evil cancer. 265 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: And you're listening to John and Ken on demand from 266 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: kf I Am six forty. 267 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: You may have heard we're gonna get into this after 268 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: two o'clock that Leslie Van Houghton one of the Manson murderers, 269 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: and she really was involved in actually killing one of 270 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: the victims in a really gruesome way. She may be 271 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: coming out any day on parole because of Californi Appeals 272 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: Court yesterday reversed Newsom's decision to deny parole. This is 273 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: a story that's gone around and around and around since 274 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, when she became eligible for parole. She was 275 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: convicted back in the nineteen seventies, and you'd have to 276 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: be at least sixty years old to have a conscious 277 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: memory of the Charles Manson killings. But it's so much 278 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: part of the culture, you know. Manson is like a 279 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: generic word now for crazed killer. Although he didn't do 280 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: the killings with his own hands, he had all his 281 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: cult followers. One of them Leslie Van Houghton. She's seventy 282 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: three now. She was, I guess a teenager. She was 283 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: nineteen years old when she took part in the killings. 284 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: So she's been sitting in prison for the most part 285 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: since the nineteen seventies and we'll get into the details 286 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: next hour. 287 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: But. 288 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: He has to go to the appealss to the Supreme Court. 289 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: If Newsom doesn't appeal to the Supreme Court, she's coming 290 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: out and the details really matter here. Even though the 291 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: Manson case is part of the dark side of American folklore, 292 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: this this really was a vicious murder that Leslie van 293 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: Houghton did with her bare hands and a knife. It's 294 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: actually really rough. I was reading about refreshing my memory 295 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: on the details. 296 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: It is really rough stuff. But you know, we're going 297 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: to talk about this. 298 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with Debor Tate, the sister of 299 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Sharon Tate, who of course was a victim. 300 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: There there were two murders. 301 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: There was Sharon Tate and people at that house, and 302 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: then there was what they call the Lobbianca killings, which 303 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: was a couple and she killed the wife of Leno Lobbianco. 304 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Rosemary was her name. So we'll get into this coming 305 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: up after two o'clock. Looking back on the glory days 306 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: of the lockdown, a lot of people after a while 307 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: got the feeling that they were being lied to and 308 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: being played. And if you said it out loud at 309 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the time, people would call you all kinds of names. 310 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Excuse you of being a conspiracy theorist, Accuse you of 311 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: wanting to kill people, Excuse you of being a nut job. Right, 312 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of social pressure to shut up and 313 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: just go along with all the lockdown rules. Well, there's 314 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: a book out by one of the people who gave 315 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: the gave the energy to the lockdown. That's Deborah Burks. 316 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: Deborah Burks, you remember stood by Anthony Fauci. They were 317 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: the two who appeared at all the press conferences for 318 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: all those months and years. 319 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: What was she known for her scarves? You remember this? Yeh, yeah, 320 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: she colorful scarms. 321 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Right, So she and Fauchi were telling us what to 322 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: do for several years. Do you remember at the very 323 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: beginning the phrase flattened the curve, right, none of us 324 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: will ever forget that flatten the curve, that if we 325 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: just locked ourselves up for two weeks, it would flatten 326 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: the curve of. 327 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: The increasing transmissions. 328 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Instead of the transmissions going up and up and up, 329 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: the infection ary would go down and down. 330 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: All we had to do is go behind closed doors 331 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: for two weeks. Remember, didn't Mike Pence hold up a 332 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: sign that said fifteen days. Well, it turns. 333 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: Out it was all alone at the time, and they 334 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: knew it was a lie. They were trying to soften 335 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: us up for a long term lockdown. 336 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: And this is a coming This is coming from Deborah 337 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: Burks in her memoir. 338 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: She was the architect of the flatten the curve strategy, 339 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: and it was by design to tell people that it's 340 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: two weeks to flatten the curve. That was the plan, 341 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: because they had to, she wrote, It was just the 342 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: first step to longer and more aggressive interventions. And Deborah 343 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: Burks and Fauci had to make these palatable to the administration, 344 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, and to the other people in the administry, 345 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: and so they had to avoid the obvious appearance of 346 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: a full Italian lockdown, which is what the plan was. 347 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: So understand this. 348 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: Fauci and Berks knew that they were going to force 349 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: demand a lockdown that would last for months and months. 350 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: They knew the public wouldn't go for it, that the 351 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: Trump administration wouldn't go for it. So they started with 352 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: let's just flatten the curve for two weeks. Let's have 353 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: silly Mike Pence hold up the sign. But they knew 354 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: there was really longer and more aggressive interventions. Trump of 355 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: course never stood up to Fauci or Burks because he 356 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: didn't want to deal with the blowback. But that's what 357 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: should have happened, because as we later saw, the states 358 00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: that reopened stayed open, reopened and stay old and did 359 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: quite well. The states that shut down, there was all 360 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: kinds of carnage. Kids lost educations for a year and 361 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: a half and still haven't recovered, and they'll never recover. 362 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: Businesses shut down here in California by the tens of 363 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: thousands permanently, never to recover, and that it didn't have 364 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: a great effect on the death rate anyway. I just 365 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: saw a study the other day looked at all the countries. 366 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: Some of them were more restrictive, some of them are looser. 367 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: Everybody kind of ended up in the same place more 368 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: or less. There's too many factors known and unknown to 369 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: explain why there would be minor differences, but it looks 370 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: it looks like nope, nobody really figured it out. It 371 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: became obvious though that the people dying were the very 372 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: old and ones that were already very sick, and not 373 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: much else. But just remember, I don't think this will 374 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: ever happen in our lifetime. Remember it was an original 375 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: lie and now they're admitting it. Deborah Burkes, they flattened 376 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: the curve just a silly slogan to calm down us peasants. 377 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: Longer and more aggressive interventions were coming and we want 378 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: to avoid the obvious appearance of a full lockdown. So 379 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: of course this is not getting much coverage either, is it. 380 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: All right? More coming up, Johnny Kenshaw. 381 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 382 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 383 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: After four o'clock on the iHeart app John and Ken 384 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: on Demand the podcast, so you catch up with everything 385 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: you missed, and we've got Deborah Tate, the sister of 386 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: actress Charonate, coming up after four o'clock. Charing Tate, as 387 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: you probably know, along with a number of others, was 388 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: killed by the Manson family back in August in nineteen 389 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: sixty nine, and also killed in a separate murder spree 390 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: by the Manson family cultis, was Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. 391 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: One of the killers who personally killed Rosemary LaBianca. Leslie 392 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: Van Houghton is about to be paroled from prison. Back 393 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: and forth has gone on for years Newsome needs to 394 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: go to the Supreme Court to appeal one last time. 395 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: Helocked. 396 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: Newsom has blocked this for several years now, but an 397 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: appeals court overruled the governor and now the governor needs 398 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: to go to the Supreme Court. We're going to talk 399 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: to Debortate Sharon Tate's sister, because we've had around the 400 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: air several times over the years, because these parole hearings 401 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: keep coming up. One of the most brutal murder spres 402 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: maybe the most brutal murder spree in Los Angeles history, 403 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: and we can't keep these people in prison until they died. 404 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: They all they all should have been executed. But that's 405 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: another story that'll come up after two o'clock. Karen Bessetti, 406 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: did you hear this? She has rejected Kim Kardashian's gift bag, 407 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: six hundred dollars gift bag filled with what they describe 408 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: as Skims goodies. That Skims is her her brand. I 409 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: guess it's a clothing line. It's a clothing line. And 410 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: also it was filled with products from her, not only 411 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian products, but other Kardashians and the Jenner Girls, 412 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Kylie and Kendall. They all have these businesses. So let's 413 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: see what was in the bag. Oh, there's there's Grandisa 414 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: Hot sauce that's owned by Kim's brother, Rob Kardashian. He 415 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: launched it with the mom Chris Jenner. Kim sent bass 416 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: thirty four dollars women's boxers. Let me see what else 417 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: they got here? Oh, makeup products from Kylie Jenner's makeup line. 418 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: Kit's sell for thirty four dollars. Oh, a bottle of tequila. 419 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner is owner of eight one eight tequila brand 420 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: that starts at thirty nine to ninety nine and goes 421 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: as high as one hundred and eighty nine. 422 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: Dollars for a reserve bottle. 423 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: She you're only allowed to accept gifts up to one 424 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. 425 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, isn't this exactly what she should 426 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: have done, is reject this gift? Yeah, this is what 427 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: she legally she should have. 428 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the theft limit is higher if it's not 429 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: from a government source like the Kardashians. 430 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: But maybe she just didn't like the stuff, so. 431 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: They have they Let's see, she got red Red Hot sauce, 432 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner makeup a skim's hat, the tequila, the boxer shorts. Oh, 433 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: and Courtney Kardashian. It has some kind of LED mask 434 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: worth one hundred and ninety dollars. 435 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: What would that be? Oh? Oh, oh, we got some skincare. 436 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: I was waiting for you to put a bit on something. 437 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 4: Well, no, nothing interested me. That's why I didn't say anything. 438 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: But the mask, mit, what is it? Well, I'm assuming 439 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: that it's a mask that you put on your face 440 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 4: that helps with age, the aging process. 441 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: That's what I'm assuming. I didn't want to say it. 442 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: What I didn't want to say it in offend Debra. 443 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 4: Oh, that that's why I would want it. 444 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: No, that's what you that's why you knew what it was. 445 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: No, I'm guessing I didn't look it up. I've never 446 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: heard of it. 447 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: That was my first guest too, because that was a wrinkle. 448 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: It's an anti aging LED light shield. 449 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. I'll take that. What is having 450 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: an LED lights? She? 451 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 4: Because there's certain lights when you go when you get 452 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: a facial that you have the red lights, the blue lights. 453 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if any of that works 454 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: because I have had facials before and they say, oh, 455 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 4: the blue light is calming. The red light is this 456 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 4: and this, and who knows. I have never seen any difference, 457 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: but I have done it in years. 458 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: Are you supposed to get the light when you go 459 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: for those facials? 460 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: Are you supposed to? I think it just depends on 461 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: the facial that you want. It doesn't come with every facial. 462 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: Not standard. 463 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: What does the light shield do? Again? 464 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 4: These these different lights do different things to your face. 465 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: So this one is an anti aging so it's it 466 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: helps probably you race. 467 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if that, but a light shot 468 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 2: would block the light, wouldn't it. 469 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 4: No, but the light does something. It increases your collagen. 470 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: It does something like that, so it makes your skin 471 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: looks more youthful. 472 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: Does not increase the collagen. You're spending money on this? 473 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: No? 474 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: Okay? 475 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, there's a red light therapy that athletes use 476 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: to reduce inflammation. 477 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: Does that work? Yes, I've heard NFL players talk about it. Stuff. 478 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: Athletes do work. 479 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: This Kardashian stuff, I don't know anyway, Caarenbassett, he's giving 480 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: it all back. All right, we come back. We're going 481 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: to talk with Debor Tate, the sister of Sharon Tate. Oh, 482 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: the Manson story again because they Appeals Court is letting 483 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: out one of the Manson killers, Leslie van Houghton, the 484 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: age of seventy three, unless Newsom can get it blocked 485 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court is even going to try. It's 486 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: all coming up Johnny Ken, Deborah Mark live in the 487 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: twenty four Hour Cafe Newsroom. 488 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 489 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: You can always hear us live on CAFI AM six 490 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 491 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app