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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norie with

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Speaker 2: Barbara DeLong. Barbara, you've been in this a long time?

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Speaker 2: How did you get into the spiritual field? How did

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Speaker 2: it start?

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Speaker 3: I saw a UFO really, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Really, that did it for you? Huh?

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Speaker 3: Well, it landed on my campus when I was in college.

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Speaker 2: And how close did you get to it?

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Speaker 3: Well? Pretty close? It was after after the doors were locked,

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Speaker 3: and it was in the It goes back to nineteen

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Speaker 3: sixty Oh gosh, sixty.

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Speaker 2: Four sixty five, that's ways back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was in the school at Eastern Michigan University,

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Speaker 3: good school, and it was and still is, I guess.

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Speaker 3: And anyhow, it was after eleven o'clock at night, and

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Speaker 3: that was a time when nobody had TVs or cell

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Speaker 3: phones or anything like that. And we had the radio,

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Speaker 3: and we heard a flash on the radio that a

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Speaker 3: UFO had been sighted on the campus or close to

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Speaker 3: the campus, and you know, of course that that blew

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Speaker 3: us all away. And then we heard the sirens as

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Speaker 3: the police cars and everything started racing towards the campus

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Speaker 3: and we heard we could hear the police radios because

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Speaker 3: the windows were open, and they were saying, it landed

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Speaker 3: on the base at the on the baseball field, We're

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Speaker 3: going to turn the lights on and get a look

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Speaker 3: at it. And all I could think of at the

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Speaker 3: time was, Oh, this is a great way to sneak

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Speaker 3: up on a flying saucer, you know. And so when

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Speaker 3: the lights went on, there was a building between my

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Speaker 3: dorm and on the field, and we saw the glow

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Speaker 3: in the sky as the lights went on, and this

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Speaker 3: dish rose up and it swooped over my dorm and

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Speaker 3: then it felt like it hesitated for a minute or two,

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Speaker 3: but it probably a second or two is more appropriate.

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Speaker 3: And then it went and it was gone. There was

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Speaker 3: no air displacement, there was.

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Speaker 2: No sound, blinked off and was gone.

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Speaker 3: It was gone, and you know, people were screening, people

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Speaker 3: were hysterical. And I was standing by the window with

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of girls and the one next to

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Speaker 3: me didn't see it, but I saw it. And over time,

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Speaker 3: I've thought back on this, and I think if you

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Speaker 3: were ready consciousness wise to accept the fact that it

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Speaker 3: was real, you could see it, and if you were

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Speaker 3: denying the possibility of it. You didn't see it at.

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Speaker 2: The time, What did you think it was?

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Speaker 3: I knew it was a flying saucer.

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Speaker 2: It was close.

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Speaker 3: I thought it blanked out the sky.

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Speaker 2: And how big do you think it would be?

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Speaker 3: Garb Probably about one hundred feet across.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good size.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it had glowing lights. There were

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Speaker 3: no lights on it, but the skin glowed.

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Speaker 2: And it was circular.

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Speaker 3: It was circular, and it was It was fascinating because

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Speaker 3: the next day it wasn't in the newspapers. You know, everybody,

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Speaker 3: nobody was talking about it. It was almost as though

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Speaker 3: it didn't happen. But for the whole rest of the

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Speaker 3: evening the police were patrolling the whole campus with dark dogs,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it was kind of like, well wait

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Speaker 3: a minute. And we listened to the news at midnight,

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Speaker 3: no news of it. They had down three airports were

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Speaker 3: there were military bases close to us. But it was

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Speaker 3: But but it was what happened with me was it

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Speaker 3: suddenly said it was like I was invited. It was like,

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Speaker 3: come on, pay attention to this. There's more to life

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Speaker 3: than what you think. And from that moment on, I

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Speaker 3: was I was, you know, looking in investigating a UFO

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Speaker 3: material spiritual stuff. You know, I graduated, I got married,

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Speaker 3: I had a child, but I was constantly also moving

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Speaker 3: in the direction towards a more spiritual understanding of the UFOs.

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Speaker 3: And it's very clear if they meant us harm, they

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Speaker 3: would have done it a long time ago. So I

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Speaker 3: don't believe they mean us harm. I think they're watching.

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Speaker 3: I think they're paying attention. They think they're waiting for

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Speaker 2: Was there ever any publicity later on on.

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Speaker 3: This, Well, well, there was a book called In Focus

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Speaker 3: thirty years ago now that was written on the authenticated

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Speaker 3: Jay allen Heimik came out. He was investigating a lot

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Speaker 3: of them, and he called all of the ones around.

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Speaker 2: Michigan swamp guess that's right.

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Speaker 3: But there was that was not swamp gas. I've seen

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Speaker 3: swamp gas. That was definitely, you know, a very physical vehicle.

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Speaker 3: Now I don't know who or what was in it,

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Speaker 2: But clearly it wasn't one of ours.

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Speaker 3: No, I would say not at that time, absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the one reason why Ken and

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Speaker 3: I when we wrote the book we started, we started

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Speaker 3: with you know, forty forty seven, because after forty seven,

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Speaker 3: the aspect of aliens was made to frighten us, was

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Speaker 3: made to these to terrify us. And you know, you

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Speaker 3: know these monsters with green tentacles and bulging eyes and everything,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I don't believe that's what they are

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Speaker 3: most of the There may be green bloods out there too,

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Speaker 3: but I think most aliens are humanoid in form in

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Speaker 3: one form or another, big, small, tall, a little gray, white,

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Speaker 3: blue green. You look at the Vedas, and you look

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Speaker 3: at the paintings in Egypt and again in India. Their

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Speaker 3: gods have green and blue skin. So it wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 3: me if they had a colored skin. But I think

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Speaker 3: that that we have been made to fear them, because

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Speaker 3: if if we if we did not fear them, if

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Speaker 3: we welcomed them, and if we try to understand them

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Speaker 3: and learn from them, then the government would be you know,

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Speaker 3: out with a shout.

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Speaker 2: Probably that's going to happen eventually.

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Speaker 3: It is, it is, It absolutely is that. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be through governments, because governments control,

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Speaker 3: they want to limit, and it's like big corporations, the

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Speaker 3: governments are big corporations. They want power over the people

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Speaker 3: that they have working under them, and they don't want

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Speaker 3: them to suddenly, you know, have have expanded consciousnesses and

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Speaker 3: understand what's more is out there. They want to keep

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Speaker 3: his thumb down and they've done a great job so far.

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Speaker 2: Too good.

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Speaker 3: To look at our school. I mean, it's not that

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Speaker 3: we don't have brilliant children, because we do, but are

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Speaker 3: they being taught. No, And it's we've got secret scientists

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Speaker 3: doing all sorts of things. I do believe they have

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Speaker 3: cure cancer, but they're not about to share it with

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I have a leg up in certain

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Speaker 3: areas that in that I know things, but I can't

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Speaker 3: prove them, so you know, it just leaves me. I

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Speaker 3: to a certain degree. I'm not one hundred percent nobody is.

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Speaker 3: But there's so much out there that we could have

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Speaker 2: Are you convinced that we're going to find instability in

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Speaker 2: the middle of all this chaos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not going to come as fast as

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Speaker 3: we would like. Look at there, there are four million

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Speaker 3: or more people that have come into this country that

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Speaker 3: them that are causing the snatch and grabs. It's not

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Speaker 3: them that we're doing the rioting before this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think they want to be.

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Speaker 2: Involved in rioting or the mass shootings or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Right, that was all us. And so these people have

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Speaker 3: to be taken care of. And I know they came

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Speaker 3: if they're sleeping in police stations and train stations, they're

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Speaker 3: not being cared for very well, and they're not taking care.

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Speaker 3: I think the thing that has upset me so much

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Speaker 3: as they should, and we have homeless people here. Why

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Speaker 2: I've always advocated building homeless cities where they can just

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Speaker 3: Least have something they I know in New York, when

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Speaker 3: I lived in New York, they did have those those

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Speaker 3: they trashed them. So there's there's got to be some

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Speaker 3: education too, you know, to help these people. I mean,

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Speaker 3: these people, so many of them just haven't had a chance.

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Speaker 3: And there are And I think it's the kids that

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 3: I taught special ed for twenty five years, and I

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Speaker 3: And so what happened, what would happened, is that that

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Speaker 2: But you think there's a way out.

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Speaker 3: I do. I do. And that's what that's what's so

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Speaker 3: You know, we're we're stuck in the home we were

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Speaker 3: for two years almost. We're given the opportunity to work

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Speaker 3: once you make that connection, once you get the creativity

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Speaker 3: Now are you You know it's still food's still going

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Speaker 3: that you deal with that. So to me, it's a

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Speaker 3: we can take advantage of the energy and we can

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Speaker 3: work on our own spiritual development. And if we do that,

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Speaker 3: in some ways, it takes away the power of the

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Speaker 3: anger that's out there.

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Speaker 2: And there's lots We're going to take calls next hour

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Speaker 2: with Barbara DeLong as we talk about chaos in this planet.

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Speaker 2: The book that you wrote, how to Use the Cosmic

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Speaker 2: Deck of Initiate, it's is it like a training guide.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a training guide for the deck of cards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so for each card it has explanations for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, up the wazoo.

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Speaker 2: So you have your fifty two cards.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The individual pulls the card and does what go to

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Speaker 2: the book to find out what it means.

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Speaker 3: They can do that, or if they have the app,

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Speaker 3: they can click on it and I read it to.

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Speaker 2: Them through the app. Through the app, they pick the

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Speaker 2: card that they have.

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Speaker 3: No they the cards are in the app itself. They

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Speaker 3: can open the app.

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Speaker 2: They can do but they have to pick the card

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Speaker 3: They pick a card or a card layout or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And you're saying you can pick a card through the

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Speaker 2: app rather than the deck. Yeah, that's novel.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's really it's a lot of fun and

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Speaker 3: and it will keep track of what you pulled each day.

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Speaker 3: If you want to do a daily thing, if you

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Speaker 3: want to do a body minded spirit spread, you can

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Speaker 3: do that. If you want to do a past, present,

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Speaker 3: future spread, you can do that. If you want to

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Speaker 3: do an astrological spread, where the cards would be on

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Speaker 3: the astrological circle and you can click whichever house you

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Speaker 3: want on the circle, it'll tell you what that house

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Speaker 3: applies to and what the card means that you put

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Speaker 3: in that particular house.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a deck with you right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. When we take calls

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Speaker 2: next hour, can you pull a card for an individual?

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Speaker 2: When they call in and tell them what's going on. Sure,

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Speaker 2: maybe about a minute or two each person, No problem,

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll do that. When we take calls with Barbara,

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Speaker 2: you can ask your questions about the chaos we're in.

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Speaker 2: But if you wanted to select one of these initiation

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Speaker 2: cards cosmic decks, she'll pull you just have to pull one, right, Sure,

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Speaker 2: she'll pull one card into tell you about yourself and

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Speaker 2: what you can expect. Absolutely, that's cool. Do you shuffle them?

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I shuffle them and then and then when somebody

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Speaker 3: when I get their voice or their name, their voice,

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Speaker 3: I just got the deck and the card that I

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Speaker 3: pull tells me what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Do you want them to ask you a question?

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Speaker 3: It's probably well, let me put it this way. If

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Speaker 3: they ask a question, I'll address the question. If they

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Speaker 3: just want a card pulled and they want to know

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Speaker 3: what spirit has to say to them about their life

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Speaker 3: at this point in time, that's what they get.

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Speaker 2: What do you want to How do.

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Speaker 1: We do it?

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Speaker 2: Though? Will you pull the card first or ask ask

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Speaker 2: the question?

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Speaker 3: No? I just I just get a connection to them,

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Speaker 3: and and it's to be honest with you, it's better

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Speaker 3: to not ask a question because then you get what

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Speaker 3: spirit really wants you to hear.

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Speaker 2: So you just you're the one who just says it

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Speaker 2: the way it is. Yep, all right, we'll do that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's exciting. And do you sell the decks to The decks.

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Speaker 3: Are available on the Cosmic Deeck of Initiation website.

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Speaker 2: What's a pack?

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Speaker 3: Cost twenty nine dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Yep, that's not bad.

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Speaker 3: No, And the app is nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 2: And you you keep that forever, right?

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Speaker 3: Oh sure?

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Speaker 2: And if you get a different phone you can just

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Speaker 2: transfer it over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's And not only that, but in the month

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Speaker 3: of August, if in the month of August hear that underlined,

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Speaker 3: in the month of August, if they buy the app,

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Speaker 3: if they buy the app, they will get a free

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Speaker 3: reading from me.

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Speaker 2: Well that's cool.

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