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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact,

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Speaker 3: we'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of

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Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from

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Speaker 4: Cases as we talked with the top experts. Welcome Beyond Contact.

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Speaker 4: I'm Captain Ron, and today we're speaking with Brad Olson.

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Speaker 4: Brad's a very busy guy. He's a publisher, producer, multi

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Speaker 4: award winning travel writer of ten books, including his Esoteric series,

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Speaker 4: Modern Esoteric, Future Esoteric, and Beyond Esoteric. He's appeared on

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Speaker 4: many TV shows and live conferences, including of course, Contact

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Speaker 4: in the Desert. He's the founder and co producer of

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Speaker 4: How Weird Street Fair in San Francisco. That ten book

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Speaker 4: figure is about to become eleven with the release of

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Speaker 4: his latest book, Secrets of Antarctica, The Untold Story of Antarctica,

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Speaker 4: which covers many aspects of Antarctica, including the famous Admiral

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Speaker 4: Richard Byrd's operation High Jump to confront the Nazi bas

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Speaker 4: and recover a Nazi flying disc. I've already had the

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Speaker 4: pleasure of reading it and it's a very very intriguing book.

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Speaker 4: Let's welcome Brad to the show. Hey Brad, how you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 5: Hey Ron, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on,

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Speaker 5: and thank you for that wonderful endorsement of the book.

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Speaker 5: You read the entire thing I did republication, and you

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Speaker 5: gave me a great review for it that will appear

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Speaker 5: on page one of the book.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's great, man, I love it. Glad to help.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a quick minute before we dive into this

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Speaker 4: here and just talk about Antarctica itself, man, because you know,

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Speaker 4: back in twenty nineteen you took this trip of a

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Speaker 4: fascinating elements. Just again, like I was telling you, just

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Speaker 4: straight up facts about the continent that I found just

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Speaker 4: incredible that I just don't think most people know. Things

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Speaker 4: like it has the driest place on Earth. Nobody would

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Speaker 4: think that it's twice the size of the Contiguous forty eight.

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Speaker 4: It holds seventy percent of the fresh water on the planet.

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Speaker 4: It contains the most active volcano system in the world.

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Speaker 4: Who would know these things? It already sounds like science

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Speaker 4: fiction to me, and I have not even mentioned that

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on this lost world down there?

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Speaker 5: Well, the back cover title headline says all roads lead

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Speaker 5: to Antarctica. Of course, no roads lead to Antarctica, but

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Speaker 5: disclosure could very well come from Antarctica. So there we

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Speaker 5: what the Nazis were doing down there pre World War two,

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Speaker 5: and by the way, they're still there. Linda Bolton Howe

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Speaker 5: of these Germans were fleeing out of McMurdo base, Germans

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Speaker 5: in your setup, Ron, it is like another world down there.

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Speaker 5: It's like going off planet because it's nothing that you'd

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Speaker 5: Everything we're used to on the surface planet is frozen

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Speaker 4: Like that. It's incredible. You know what I find really

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Speaker 5: The absolute best place to be out of site from

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Speaker 4: Be the perfect place.

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Speaker 5: And Ron when I was going over maps before my

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Speaker 4: It's incredible. You know, there's that speculation as you're saying

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Speaker 5: Right exactly, and a light source of course too, because

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Speaker 4: It's incredible. This treasure trove of recovered documents that the

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Speaker 4: Do you think they're real?

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Speaker 5: And so we're going to we're reprinting them and I

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, even these documents could really, if they're really authentic,

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Speaker 4: There's even photographs and drawings of them unequivocally working on

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Speaker 4: Contact talking to Brad Olson. Hey, Brad, We've seen these

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Speaker 5: These are the greatest mysteries left on planet for us

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Speaker 5: And I think I've been able to pinpoint the location

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Speaker 4: As the earth warms, that the ice could melt and

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Speaker 5: That's absolutely possible. And that's what Emery Smith said, is

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Speaker 4: This could literally be the answer to all of these questions.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's a ten million dollar question because multiple eyewitness

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Speaker 5: We got routed by these discs? Now who is piloting those?

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Speaker 5: Because the Germans were allied with some exterstrial forces, they

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Speaker 5: Ron is that the magenta Okay, yep, they did have

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Speaker 4: Well, how do we get to the bottom of all this?

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Speaker 4: Even though it's a real place and we know Antarctica's there,

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Speaker 4: This almost seems like a bigger cover up than the

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Speaker 5: I would totally agree with you. And because it's so

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Speaker 4: Do you think that's by design by design?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I do, And I think it's by design with

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Speaker 5: I think, why would that be and why would there

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Speaker 4: Right, No, he does that, no flights do that.

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Speaker 5: But it also says on those maps no overland travel.

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Speaker 5: I would go back there. And we're putting together and

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Speaker 4: And that is the hard part. I couldn't still make it. Hey,

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Speaker 4: and Brad you've mentioned his name several times already. Back

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Speaker 4: in nineteen forty six forty seven, maybe there was this

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the hole is real, and I think

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Speaker 4: On the surface.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, you have the propensity for these big under

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Speaker 4: It's incredible, it absolutely incredible what do you think these

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Speaker 5: Verne yeah Erney To the Center of the Earth, remember

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Speaker 5: But so he goes there first off with only the

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Speaker 5: we lost Admiral Bird. He crashed, he went off off

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00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 5: the radio, and he was gone for three hours. Then

436
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 5: he pops back out and he's flying back to Little America.

437
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 5: But in that time he goes down into the hole

438
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 5: in the ice, he sees his verdant green valley. They

439
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 5: see what at first they thought was an elephant. Turns

440
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 5: out it was a wooly mammoth, so even mega fauna

441
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 5: living down there. And then they're flying and they lose

442
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: control first of the radio but then of the control

443
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 5: of the flight, and over the radio comes a Germanic

444
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: voice that says welcome to the Domain of the Ariani.

445
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: We will be landing shortly. You're in good hands, Admiral Bird,

446
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: and they took control of his plane. They landed two

447
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 5: UFOs wingtip to wingtip, which he called fluglods, and there's

448
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: no such word in the German language for a fluglods,

449
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 5: so that's kind of interesting. But they landed him and

450
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 5: I'll come these two big blonde haired soldiers who escorted

451
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: him to a meeting with the Master in this city,

452
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 5: the Domain of the Ariani, which to me, the way

453
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: the description was was kind of like The Wizard of Oz,

454
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: remember when they go to the Emerald City, just some

455
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 5: kind of gleaming, pastel colored city, and then the Master,

456
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: who's telepathic and kind of alien like in nature. So

457
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: this kind of begs the question are there aliens under

458
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 5: the ice too? But basically says, we don't want you

459
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 5: playing around with these nuclear bombs. Go back to the

460
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 5: and tell them to knock it off. And so the

461
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: two giant tall German guys escort him out, and the

462
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 5: last thing they say to him when they give him

463
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: control of the plane back is vitashane goodbye and German.

464
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 5: So they're speaking to him in German. My theory on

465
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 5: this run is that they met this high tech civilization

466
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 5: from their trips to Tibet in the nineteen thirties. That's

467
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 5: how they got the directions under the ice. So they

468
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: were invited in this high tech civilization of very human

469
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: looking ets, but different than us, and they were merging

470
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: their new Berlin city into the domain of the Ariani.

471
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: Because the same place where that hole in the ice

472
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: is near the south Pole is exactly where the directions

473
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 5: that these U boat maps send the ships within one

474
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 5: hundred miles, So there's a whole world down there.

475
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely incredible. It's interesting that that's the message that people

476
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: often report having et contact on land is they say,

477
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: stop with the nukes and save the planet. Those are

478
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 4: the kind of messages that are often given, supposedly, So

479
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: that's an interesting tie in.

480
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 5: Once again, another interesting tie in. And yeah, I mean

481
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: not only talking about exterrestrials. Maybe they're inner terrestrials. Maybe

482
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 5: they've been here the whole time, right right out of

483
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: our feet, right out of the ice in Antarctica, and

484
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 5: there they are existing kind of mining themselves. Same thing

485
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: with under the Tibetan plateau and the Germans expeditions to

486
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: Tibet Ron in the nineteen thirties play a very big

487
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: role in why the Germans went down to New Schwabenland,

488
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: set up shop and found the way through these passages

489
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 5: under the ice. It all ties in together with this

490
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: hollow Earth, with this inner terrestrial existence right here on

491
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: planet Earth.

492
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: Well, the Germans were very interest said in all these

493
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: occult things, and I think they went around the world

494
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: grabbing all this information right.

495
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: Oh, everywhere they could get it, not only throughout Europe.

496
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 5: They collected it. Just like the movie Raiders of the

497
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: Lost Dark, once again fiction based on truth. They're looking

498
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: for the Ark of the Covenant and they ended up

499
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: in Egypt, and yeah, they were in Egypt, but they

500
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 5: were also in Tibet. So remember that movie Seven Years

501
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 5: in Tibet with Brad Pitt. So that was based on

502
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: the life of Ernst Schaeffer and he was this incredible mountaineer.

503
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 5: But what they don't tell you in the movie is

504
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: that they were looking for this entrance to go to Shambala,

505
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: to these mythical cities under the Tibetan Plateau. And they

506
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: came back to Germany in nineteen thirty eight with something

507
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: that was so important that the Germans, without wasting any time,

508
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 5: outfitted the chip called Schwabenland and went right down to

509
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 5: Antarctica as soon as they possible could. So they were

510
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 5: leaving with some kind of information that they got out

511
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 5: of Tabet to go meet this other maybe similarly related

512
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: to this inner civilization under Tibet, which was related to

513
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: this under the ice civilization in Antarctica.

514
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: You know, when you were down there, did you get

515
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: anyone to corroborate or or did you hear stories that

516
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: supported these claims? Or do we really only have the

517
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: one account from this lost diary?

518
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: So I went down there, and as far as I know,

519
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: I'm the only researcher in this field on my own

520
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 5: dime to go down there to ask the big questions,

521
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: to look into all this stuff. And my line of

522
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: questioning was exactly the same at all the bases we

523
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: went to, and even before we went talking to sea

524
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: captains in Ushuaia, Argentina, do you know of any of

525
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: these ships under the ice? You know, the Nina Pentus,

526
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 5: Santa Maria. Have you ever heard of Hermid's poking through?

527
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: Have you ever heard of any kind of excavations where

528
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 5: they're pulling out either giants or megafauna or megalithic sights

529
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 5: under the ice. The answer was always no.

530
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: But what I did find.

531
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 5: Out not only that there was this no fly zone

532
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: that was very strictly enforced near the cell Pole, but

533
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 5: also that one of the bases in Argentina bases just

534
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 5: had a UFO sighting at the Belgrano two base. And

535
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 5: the guy was very reluctant to tell me, in fact,

536
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: that he was there with another woman. In my Spanish,

537
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: isn't that good? But it was kind of picking up

538
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: like no, no, don't tell him, don't say anything. So

539
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 5: she split and then we'd like, no, you gotta tell us,

540
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: I said, Well, what she said I shouldn't tell you

541
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 5: is that one of our bases had a flyover of UFOs.

542
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: It was all the talk within our community, and.

543
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: That's really interesting too. Bright. You know, another tye in

544
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: would be that you said that bird Lane to have

545
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: seen a wooly man. Well, as you know, as you

546
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: reported in your book, there are dinosaur species that have

547
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 4: been uncovered in Antarctica, so we know that there was

548
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: that type of life from that time period. When we

549
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: come back We're going to ask Brad what the most

550
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: compelling piece of evidence he found that suggests Antarctica is

551
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: hiding something extraordinary. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the

552
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We're

553
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Brad Olson about Antarctica. So, Brad,

554
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: what is the single most compelling piece of evidence that

555
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: you've personally found that suggests they're hiding something down in

556
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 4: an Arctica.

557
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: Well, I'd have to say it's these new U boat

558
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: maps that show the direction and they've been authenticated. The guy,

559
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 5: the Russian journalist who is bringing out this information, he

560
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 5: flips through a whole stack of them, so you can

561
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 5: see that they're all the same, but they're each individually

562
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 5: stamped signed off by the Kriegsmarine admiral. And there's even

563
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 5: the back story that they were all created in the

564
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 5: Bookwald Concentration Camp. The Germans had very professional forgers and

565
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 5: map makers, so they would find out who were the

566
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 5: best at what, including even Jewish people would help them

567
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 5: counterfeit English pounds and so they were using that for financing.

568
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: So a lot of this stuff found its way to

569
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 5: the map making abilities, and so these maps ron I

570
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 5: think the providence is there. They're authentic. They came out

571
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: of the Soviet Union at its collapse, and it wasn't

572
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 5: just in one location, it was in several locations. They

573
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 5: found maps to Antarctica and also journal entries of some

574
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: of the high officers who were working on the Antarctica

575
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: project how they wanted to get mainly orphaned men if

576
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 5: they didn't have family ties to Germany, that they were

577
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 5: the ones that they wanted to go down there because

578
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 5: it was basically a one way trip. And there's even

579
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: this incredible letter after the war from Carl Unger to

580
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: his family and his friend where he's saying, we've made it.

581
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 5: The earth is hollow. I'm on U boat two nine,

582
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 5: but we will not be returning. We've gotten to inner Earth.

583
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 5: Somehow this letter made its way out and back to

584
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: his family and he said we're not prisoners, but we

585
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 5: will not be returning, and sure enough he never returned.

586
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: Which reminds me of the other thing you brought up

587
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: in your book, is these other areas. Was it full society,

588
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: real society, and or disappeared without a trace?

589
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: Yep, So those were right after World War One, the

590
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 5: Vrille were the real women with the long hair. They

591
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 5: were doing these telepathic trances in a Bavarian hunting lodge.

592
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: And my filmmaker friend Frank Jacob and his girlfriend Tanya Maddenford,

593
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 5: they found the Bavarian hunting lodge. So I'm speaking in

594
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 5: Germany in May and we're gonna go there. He's gonna

595
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 5: show me the hunting lodge where the real women were

596
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: downloading telepathically blueprints which the German engineers were able actually

597
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 5: able to use. Like Victor Schallenberger, he said, this is

598
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 5: where this is workable physics. Not only the vrill but

599
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 5: then the Tula Society, which was absolutely fascinated with these

600
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: relics around the world. They were the ones who put

601
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 5: together the Tibet excursions as well as the New Schwabenland expedition.

602
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 5: And then during the war then that all coalesced into

603
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 5: the n Nerbe Society and it was in the High

604
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 5: Offices in Berlin that the Soviets got a lot of

605
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: these documents from the Anninerbe Society about Antarctica and about

606
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: all the other things. I mean, they had volumes, tens

607
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: of thousands of books that they're trying to get out

608
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: of there at the end, but they couldn't get it

609
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 5: all out, and so what got left is now turning

610
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 5: up into some of these incredible documents.

611
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 4: Who would think that all of the answers to many

612
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 4: of the mysteries we have on Earth are right there

613
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 4: in Antarctica. It's really incredible, you know, Brad, You've looked

614
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: at this topic, not just in Antarctica, but all over

615
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: the world. You've traveled every continent. You've been to all

616
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: these places. You've talked about ancient civilizations and sort of

617
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: forbidden archaeology. Gun to your head, Brad, what is the

618
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: best guess you think of us being visited by another intelligence,

619
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: either today or in the distant past. What do you

620
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: feel happened or is happening? Do you have a guess?

621
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: Well, gosh, we go the Three Eye at lists barreling

622
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 5: down towards Earth.

623
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

624
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 5: NASA is on a closure because of the government shutdown,

625
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: so they can't release CYRAS images.

626
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: They wouldn't anyway. It was never a straight answer on

627
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 6: that's right. So yeah, I think we're just at this

628
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 6: incredible moment in human history. I do believe that a

629
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: meaningful contact or disclosure is imminent very soon, as in

630
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 6: months instead of years or decades. Seriously, Yeah, yeah, well

631
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 6: let's let's we're gonna see what happens. Not only three

632
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 6: eye at lists, but there's the other one called Swan

633
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 6: that's coming from a different direction, that is not behaving

634
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: like a media You're right, of course, you've heard of

635
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 6: obviously Lobe, the Harvard astrophysicist who says it's speeding up,

636
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 6: it's moving in different directions that it shouldn't do. And

637
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 6: we're all going to get these answers very very soon.

638
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: Enough to convince the vast majority of people, you know

639
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: that we'll all go oh wow, amazing, but they're going

640
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: to be like, that's nothing for how do we.

641
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: So it comes, it crosses the arc of the Earth plane,

642
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: not in a collision course, but then it goes behind

643
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: the Sun, and then we come around again towards the

644
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: end of December, where we're gonna have the closest proximity.

645
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 5: And what if amateur astronomers could just set up their

646
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: telescopes and look at this thing that could provoke disclosure. Yeah,

647
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: it's showing signs that it's somehow intelligently propelled, So that's

648
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 5: fascinating in and of itself. What it looks like I

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Speaker 5: think will be the big question. If it turns out

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Speaker 5: to be a massive mothership. I mean, unfortunately, I think

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Speaker 5: it could be used by the deep State for Project Bluebeam.

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Speaker 5: It's getting so much attention. As we know, there have

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Speaker 5: been so many UFO sightings over the last few years

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Speaker 5: or decades that could have gotten the Lion's share of attention,

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Speaker 5: like three I Atlas is getting.

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Speaker 4: So I think we're.

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Speaker 5: Being set up for something, and that could be this

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Speaker 5: fake alien invasion that we've heard about since the nineteen seventies,

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Speaker 5: with Werner von Braun telling his assistant Carol Rosen that

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Speaker 5: it would be fake and it would be the last

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Speaker 5: thing that they would use to usher in a new

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Speaker 5: world order, a digital currency, a digital ID, all this

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Speaker 5: stuff that they need to use to get us to

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Speaker 5: comply to this new world order. So, unfortunately, I think

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Speaker 5: there's more to it than what it appears on the

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Speaker 5: surface here for sure.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any thoughts on the growing idea that

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Speaker 4: NHI or even these UFO themselves, they seem to have

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Speaker 4: more to do with consciousness than we thought before. How

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Speaker 4: do you feel about that.

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Speaker 5: And that's what it's got to be. So when Avi

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Speaker 5: Loebe said, when it was just passing Jupiter, this three

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Speaker 5: I atlas, Oh, they have mal intent? This could be

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Speaker 5: an invasion for how would you know that? How could

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Speaker 5: you know that? Look, if they wanted to conquer Earth

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Speaker 5: just fifty years ago, it would be much easier one

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Speaker 5: hundred years ago, before we had any advanced weaponry. But

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Speaker 5: now why And as you said, it's a consciousness thing.

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Speaker 5: Any benevolent et group is not coming here to conquer us,

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Speaker 5: to attack us, to do anything malevolent in any kind

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Speaker 5: of way. It would be to elevate the human spirit.

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Speaker 5: And so to get us to a point where we're

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Speaker 5: able to make meaningful contact with them and maybe sit

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Speaker 5: it an air galactic table of planet and negotiate with them,

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Speaker 5: and then we'd really have some high technology coming our

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Speaker 5: way round.

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Speaker 4: You just brought up something that I don't think anyone's

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Speaker 4: ever said before, and I think it's absolutely brilliant. We

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Speaker 4: shouldn't gloss over it. If this extraterrestrial race, let's call,

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Speaker 4: if it's that, if they were coming here with any

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Speaker 4: mal intent to overtake us or anything, you know, they

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Speaker 4: claim they've been coming for thousands of years, Why would

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Speaker 4: you not do it anytime in the last one hundred

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Speaker 4: years we didn't have nuclear weapons, any of these sort

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Speaker 4: of defense systems that one hundred years ago we would

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Speaker 4: have been so easy to take over. That's a really

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Speaker 4: good argument for their not coming to take us over.

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Speaker 5: Because they and if they show signs that they are,

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Speaker 5: then I'd say it's Project Bluebeam. It's fake alien invasion.

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Speaker 5: So maybe the holograms in the sky and the voice

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Speaker 5: to Skull technology, and in my book Beyond Esoteric, I

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Speaker 5: have a whole write up on the different scenarios that

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Speaker 5: Project Bluebeam is supposed to take, and if even a

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Speaker 5: fraction of that happens, it's a big fake out. What

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Speaker 5: could come out of this ron is that we could

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Speaker 5: still get some kind of meaningful disclosure. The discussion will

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Speaker 5: then go into the mainstream and will be forced to

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Speaker 5: start having these talks.

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Speaker 4: I feel the way AI is now and everything these

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Speaker 4: deep fakes that are coming out and the new AI

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Speaker 4: stuff is so easy and they can fake anything, really

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Speaker 4: gives credence to Project Bluebeam. I think it would be

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Speaker 4: very easy to do.

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Speaker 5: So when it comes back around from behind the Sun

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Speaker 5: in late December, coming right into the holiday season. One

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Speaker 5: of the aspects of Project It's not just fake alien invasion,

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Speaker 5: it's also the return of the Messiah. You know how

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Speaker 5: many people are so religious in this world, not just Christians,

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Speaker 5: and this is part of the scenario of Bluebeam, is

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Speaker 5: that you would have your Messiah in the sky using

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Speaker 5: voice to skull technology, which is like being schizophrenic and

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Speaker 5: hearing voices in your skull.

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Speaker 4: Anything's possible today, brother, Thanks so much, Brad. That was

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Speaker 4: fascinating stuff. All the answers might be right here at

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Speaker 4: Antarctica after all. Hey man, you guys can find Brad

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Speaker 4: at Bradelsen dot net. Thanks again, buddy, appreciate you coming

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Speaker 4: on you bet Ron, thank you. You can find me

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Speaker 4: on Twitter and Instagram at cd Underscore Captainron. Stay connected

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