1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Hell that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: a man, I'm for I've heard so many players. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 2: Say, well, I want to be happy, you want to 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: be happy for Dake Ada State? 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 3: Is that woo? 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Woof? 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: And Dan and Tie. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls. My 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: name is Tye hilden Brandt, my beloved co host over 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: there and beautiful Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein. Tonight, Daniel, Tonight, 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: we have the answer to the question that I know 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: you were only marginally waiting for. We have playoff rankings. Dan, 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: I think I'm more excited for this year's rankings because 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: there's there's more confusion near the top. Does that make 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: sense that there is there is more of an opportunity 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: to state cases and to rag on teams for not 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: playing nobody whatever. 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: And there have been teams who have. 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: Been blown out by playoff caliber teams like LSU and Oregon. 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: There are teams that you know are definitely flawed in 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: certain regards like USC Oregon TC like there are teams 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: with like suspect defenses, suspect offenses, teams that are not 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: prepared for the reality that they're about to lose to Illinois, 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: So there is a lot to talk about in the 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: top ten, twelve, fifteen, eighteen, twenty five, and I kind 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: of like that nobody is perfect. 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of that nobody is perfect. And we're 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: going to get through really the top twenty five here momentarily, 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: as the playoff Committee released the rankings a little bit ago. 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: You and I are actually recording this one later than 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: usual on a Tuesday evening, just to make sure we 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: give folks the latest, most up to date information with 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: where things stand in the college football world. This episode, 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: all of our episodes, of course, driven by our good 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: friends over at Geico. 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Dan a hard 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: rock intro from ESPN. Oh it was on mute for me, okay, 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: a voiceover that came in in very dramatic fashion, and 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: among other things, said quote, the goal isn't just to 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: have a name a number next to your name. You 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: do everything you can to shrink that digit to as 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: small as it can be. Dan, it's such a weird 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: way of crazy. You not have digit shrinking on my 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: playoff rankings, Bingo card. If I'm being honest with you. 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: We need to pull Costanza shrinkage. Is that an audio 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: clip that we're going to need to pull moving forward 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: when we talk about digital shrinkage? I think it's I 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: think it's only right. So let's get into it. You 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: want to go through the numbers. 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Here are your first batch of playoff rankings. I'll go 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: through the top ten. Let's do it. 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: Number ten, LSU, whoa getting hot here? Number nine, USC 63 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: number eight, your. 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks, number seven, TCU Okay, TCU number six, Alabama 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: number five, Michigan number four, Clemson number three, Georgia, number two, 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and number one Tennessee Volunteers. Dan, it has 67 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: been a charm season already for the balls. They ascend 68 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: to number one in the first batch of college football 69 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: playoff rankings. Yes, okay, we both watched this. What was 70 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: the ranking that gave you the most pause, the one 71 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: that you felt the most emotional reaction to. I know 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: you're not much for these playoff rankings. Okay, yeah, it 73 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: just rip the band aid right off. Everybody knows that 74 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: about you. But but of what you saw, which of 75 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: these prompted the biggest reaction. 76 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Either Clemson in the top four or TCU behind Alabama 77 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: where the two And I know you mentioned the LSU 78 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: at number ten, you know, ahead of a couple of 79 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: one loss teams, a few one loss teams from Power 80 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: five conferences with their own two losses. But yeah, I 81 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: think Clemson at four and TCU at seven. I was 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: like in my head, thinking, huh, I'm curious to see 83 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: how this is defended. Not that I feel all that 84 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: passionately about Michigan in the top four instead of Clemson 85 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: with certainty, Not that I feel that Clemson is ranked 86 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: correctly or TCU is ranked specifically correctly. All of these 87 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: things are gonna come together. I'm not worried about those things. 88 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: But putting an undefeated TCU team behind Alabama. And it's 89 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: a show about premises, right, and it's the premise that 90 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: TCU's average defense is what's holding them back, which is 91 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: I think was what Boo coregan boo of course short 92 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: for boomshokle god, I don't know, boomshaka la corgankasha. The 93 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: premise is sure you're undefeated, but and that to me 94 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: is kind of problematic. And I understand that sometimes you 95 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: can't always judge solely on head to head or sometimes 96 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, you have to look at who a team 97 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: plays in its totality, but like, there's nothing consistent to me, 98 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: Georgia has the best win we can get to that 99 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: of all of these teams. Tennessee has the best story 100 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: and improvement and shock and off factor on offense, and 101 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: Ohio State might be the most complete team in Michigan's 102 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: defense is probably better than most teams doing most things. 103 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: But that TCUs undefeated with a pretty good schedule, not 104 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: a great non conference schedule, and Alabama doesn't have a 105 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: I think is Alabama's loan win in the top twenty 106 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: five Texas is that? Is that my understanding? I believest 107 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: so so Alabama's loan win in the top twenty five 108 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: is a one point win over a pretty flawed Texas 109 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: team that is not really seen as a top twenty 110 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: ish team anywhere, and so that's their their impressive look. 111 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: So I just I think you got to reward a 112 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: team like TCU. There's something very strange. Even it was 113 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: a completely different committee way back when when they dropped 114 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: after beating Kansas the way they did. I think it 115 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: was twenty fourteen, fifty two to three, don't I don't 116 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: get it. I don't get it. Winning is better than losing. 117 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: It's always than losing. And TCU has done nothing but win. 118 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: Now. 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: You know, they've been behind in a couple of games. 120 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: The defense hasn't been sterling. But I'd much rather win 121 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: all of my games. How many points did Alabama give 122 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: up to Tennessee and that loss like this was it 123 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: was not a complete impressive performance from Alabama that they 124 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: happened to lose. Their defense got shredded by a playoff team. 125 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: For those playing along at home, the final score in 126 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: that Alabama game fifty two to forty nine in favor 127 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: of now the number one Tennessee volunteers a couple interesting 128 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: soundbites that, of course This is what happens when you 129 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: are the committee chairperson. You get asked questions point blank 130 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: from Rhys Davis each week after revealing the rankings. Tennessee's 131 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: two wins over Bama and LSU reportedly sealed it for 132 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: them as number one. I don't think anyone's going to 133 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: argue with Tennessee at number one. I mean I would, 134 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: but continue, we had Ohio State at two due to 135 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: the quote explosive nature of their offense. Okay, all right. 136 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: They were asked specifically about that Alabama versus TCU issue, 137 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: that conundrum, the one that seemed to drive Joe Galloway 138 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: nuts on set, and the implication was that Alabama's had 139 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: a better body of work thus far, and with respect 140 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: specifically to TCU, the committee was looking for a quote 141 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: balanced team. Whatever that means, I can tell you what 142 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: it means. Continue, well, I know what it means. What 143 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: I think the implication was on the TCU front was 144 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: that they've had a bunch of come from behind wins, 145 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: and even though they were wins, and even though they 146 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: remain undefeated to an extent, that was held against them. Sure, 147 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: so that's where they're at. The Other thing that I 148 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: think is interesting and I hope we can get into 149 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: is LSU at ten. Obviously there are some teams in 150 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: front of LSU that I think we need to discuss 151 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: in a little bit more detail, but LSU at ten 152 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: definitely sets up at least a slightly more interesting matchup 153 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: this weekend with Alabama when they play on Saturday evening. 154 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: Definitely, and in a couple of different ways. So LSU 155 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: losing an embarrassing fashion in week one, and I think 156 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: there's something interesting to be said about week one with 157 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: Georgia being ranked third and LSU being ranked tenth. Georgia 158 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: being ranked third despite having the most impressive win of 159 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: the season with their win over Oregon and LSU writing 160 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: off the extremely ugly and undisciplined and amateurish way in 161 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: which they lost to Florida State in week one. Week 162 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: one is being seen right now as well. It's week one, 163 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: come on, it's week one, and so that's the viewpoint 164 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: early on. And so that to me is fascinating because Georgia. 165 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: I would have Georgia a top still still a top 166 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: the rankings because of that Week one performance, because you're 167 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: looking at Tennessee's best win over Alabama game in which 168 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: they gave up once again forty nine points. I wouldn't 169 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: say that was a complete victory. Right now, Tennessee's defense 170 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: isn't as bad as TCU's defense on the season. It's 171 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: certainly not as bad as Top ten Oregon and Top 172 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: ten usc which are right now sitting at ninety fourth 173 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: and ninety fifth respectively in points per drive. Quite flawed 174 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: those two defenses, to be sure, But I would still 175 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: have Georgia and their overall performance, So they're what they're 176 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: being held. It's the performance against Mazoo is being held 177 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: against Georgia. The four point win. 178 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's so much anything being 179 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: held against Georgia as it is Tennessee getting a lot 180 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: of credit for how they've looked so far. 181 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's the question of is Tennessee's kind of 182 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: disappointing but beat up defense and presumably getting healthier again. 183 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of premises and presumptions that need to 184 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: be spoken of when you talk about Week one of 185 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: the college football playoff rankings. But Tennessee right now sitting 186 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: at and this is a metric important to me. It's 187 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: versus FBS teams, and it excludes garbage time. Tennessee sitting 188 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: at the twenty eighth best national defense, and they went 189 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: back and forth with Pitt. I believe that was an 190 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: overtime game, and that's a scheduling pit in a home 191 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: and home I think is a positive thing. But Georgia 192 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: right now has the third most efficient scoring defense and 193 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: the fourth most efficient scoring offense, and like you mentioned, 194 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: it's not against the best overall level of competition thus 195 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: far when you look at their schedule, but I would 196 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: still have them. Their performance against who they've played has 197 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: been more impressive than what Tennessee has done because Alabama 198 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: merely beating Texas by one has not aged especially impressively. 199 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Right Beating Mississippi State the way that Alabama has we 200 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: thought would be more impressive than it turns out to 201 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: have been. With what Mississippi State has done this year, 202 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: with what Arkansas's defense, and Arkansas was in that game 203 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: in the second half, I think it was twenty eight 204 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: twenty three against Alabama. Alabama with a backup quarterback. I 205 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: think Alabama is a really good team, potentially playoff caliber 206 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: team if they can get a little bit better on 207 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: the road, especially on defense. But that's a big if 208 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: there's a premise there, I'm just I right now in 209 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: my mind, and you can tell me what yours, what 210 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: your top four is is. I would have Georgia Tennessee, 211 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: Ohio State now Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee, and then I 212 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: might have TCU there maybe Michigan, though. 213 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Michigan one to me is fascinating. You can 214 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: look at what Michigan's done so far this season. The 215 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: win against Penn State, I thought was damn impressive, right, yeah, 216 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: bar none, that was a damn impressive win. Iowa has 217 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: since faded, so the win on the road at Iowa, 218 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: albeit still on the road against the good defense, probably 219 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have as much shine as it did back in 220 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Week five when it occurred. Can I jump in real quick? 221 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: Can I get jump in? 222 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: What was Iowa's score Week one against South Dakota State. 223 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: We weren't looking at the win. I mean they lost 224 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: to Iowa State in Week two, scoring a touchdown ten 225 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: to seven was the way they lost. So by the 226 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: time they played that game against Michigan, they were already 227 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: seen as a catastrophic half team. So it's a good 228 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: win for Michigan. The score is fully representative of the 229 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: control Michigan had in that game late. But I'd like 230 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: to be on the record pushing back a little bit 231 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: that Iowa and that win has faded since when since 232 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: seven to three over South Dakota State, America has faded Iowa. 233 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing against that. All I'm saying is just 234 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: that I think we know more with the benefit of 235 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: four extra weeks of college football, that that win may 236 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: not be as valuable as we thought sure in the moment, 237 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: So Iowa is the road win. The big home win 238 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: was against Penn State. The win this past weekend was 239 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: against Michigan State, obviously and rather dominant fashion. I think 240 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: thus far, with what we've seen from Michigan, they look 241 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: utterly dominant, and I have seen nothing from this team 242 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: that has led me to think that they don't belong 243 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: in that top four. So I was a bit surprised 244 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: to see Clemson, okay above them. Now. I guess, with 245 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: respect to the top twenty five as it's laid out, 246 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: maybe Clemson has wins over more teams that are in 247 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: this top twenty five, notably Wake in Syracuse. But Clemson 248 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: also has had this issue. If they want to make 249 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: that argument on the TCU side that TCUs had to 250 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: come back. Maybe they haven't looked as impressive the full 251 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: way through each of their games as a team. Like 252 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: in Alabama, Clemson's been really bad in the first halves 253 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: of all of their not all their games, but a 254 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: good chunk of their games so far this season. We're 255 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: going to see them on the road this weekend against 256 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. We'll see what that looks like. I have 257 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: some suspicions. I think I feel pretty confident, let's say, 258 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: about which direction that one's going to head. But alas, 259 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: it's a hard argument to make for me that Clemson 260 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: belongs there over Michigan. That said, this is only the 261 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: first rankings. This is only the first batch of rankings. 262 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: It really doesn't mean anything. Of all the batches of 263 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: rankings that we're going to see over the next coming weeks, 264 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: this is the one that means the least. It definitely 265 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: sets the tone to some extent. But I think that one, 266 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: to me was probably the biggest surprise. Okay, Michigan all 267 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: the way down at five. The other one that surprised 268 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: me was LSU at ten. I didn't think they'd do it. 269 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: We both are pretty high on LSU, but alas LSU 270 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: is fifteenth in the latest revision of the AP Top 271 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: twenty five, LSU being at ten sets up a very 272 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: interesting matchup. Now. It was already interesting before, but it's 273 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: got higher stakes now given the fact that Alabama's presently 274 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: on the outside looking in. 275 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: I like LSU, But at the same time, they go 276 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: down big too ole Miss and they mount a furious 277 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: comeback and beat them by what three touchdowns twenty four 278 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: to twenty five points. I'm just a little bit confused 279 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: on what exactly our fully formed opinion is on the Tigers. 280 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: If we suddenly love ole Miss, like that's the question 281 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: to me, is like ole Miss is going to be 282 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: a big time decider in all of this. Ole Miss 283 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: in their performance against LSU or lack thereof, especially in 284 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: the second half Ole Miss against Alabama later on, I 285 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: don't know. Ole Miss is one of those teams that 286 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: has underperformed a little bit at times. Super impressive last 287 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: week against three and five now three and five Texas 288 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: A and M and what they were able to do 289 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: on the ground. I'm just I'm curious about the resume 290 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: right now of LSU, because they had a very clear shot. 291 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: LSU did at home at at least a clear playoff 292 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: contender right now, and they lost by twenty seven points 293 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: to Tennessee. And so that the Playoff Committee is higher 294 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: on LSU than most of us is intriguing, and I 295 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: think a lot of this is shaping up that the 296 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: Committee is hoping Alabama makes that move, that they're setting 297 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: up Alabama's schedule in such a way that they're going 298 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: to have all of these opportunities against playoff top twenty 299 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: five teams or playoff top ten or playoff top fifteen 300 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: teams to justify the Alabama bump into the top four. 301 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: The committee has always been infatuated with Alabama. Many different 302 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: iterations of the committee have been infatuated with Alabama, and 303 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: for good reason, and they've performed well, but I still 304 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: think you need to look at each season in a vacuum. 305 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: That to me is fascinating because right now, a loss 306 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: to a very much average Florida State with losing the 307 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: way that they have lately, jumping out to leads and fading, 308 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: and then a four point win against Auburn that made 309 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: me paint my face because LSU couldn't cover that game. 310 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: A Florida team that I don't think anybody holds in 311 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: super high regard. And if we do hold Florida in 312 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: high regard, then you should probably be rewarding Georgia a 313 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: little bit more. And Tennessee didn't really separate themselves from Florida. 314 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: That was a five point game. So it's just everything 315 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: is all over the place. I'd like to like, can 316 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: we nitpick for a little while about a couple of 317 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 2: teams a little bit higher rank than LSU. 318 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: Please? Does Clemson current playoff Clemson, do they have a 319 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: starting quarterback that were positive on their identity? Well, Dabo 320 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: is Dabo says that Dju is the guy. But we're 321 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: going to find out I think a little bit more 322 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: about Clemson this coming weekend. Now, Look, you know, I'm 323 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: a Notre Dame fan. Sure you know where I stand 324 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: on the Irish and I do not have that much 325 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: confidence that they're going to mount any kind of serious 326 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: charge here against Clemson on Saturday evening. The issue though, 327 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: on the Clemson sider, I guess on the side of 328 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: anybody trying to get in front of Clemson is the 329 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: remaining teams on Clemson schedule, at least in the regular season, 330 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is the best one unless you're going South 331 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: Carolina over Notre Dame or Louisville. Certainly Miami is not 332 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: better than Notre Dame or any of those other teams 333 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: that I mentioned at this juncture in the season. So 334 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: it's getting late early here for the Tigers to drop one. 335 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: And that's not to say that they can't, that they 336 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: don't have it in them, but it may not be 337 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: so much a function of do they have a quarterback 338 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: do they not have a quarterback? As it is, the 339 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: competition around them is just not very strong. 340 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: And I mean, there's a couple different things to nitpick 341 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: about Clemson at the moment. If we're talking about a 342 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: complete team. Gave up a ton of points wake Forest, 343 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: current top twenty five playoff team, wake Forest, but not 344 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: a wake Forest team that's especially trending in the right 345 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: direction at the time this playoff ranking was released. Yes, correct. 346 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: And then Clemson is in a battle with a top 347 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: twenty five team in Syracuse, and what do they do 348 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: in the middle of that game. They turn to their 349 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: backup quarterback because their current starting quarterback is not good 350 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: enough was not getting it done. That to me is 351 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: The issue with Clemson that they have not shown themselves. 352 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: They didn't separate themselves late until late against Georgia Tech 353 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: a woeful Georgia Tech. But again week one, I'm just 354 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'm I'm just I need to 355 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: see a lot more from Clemson, and their resume doesn't 356 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: impress me. It's a Shanaia situation for me that they 357 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: don't impress me much. So I'm not there with Clemson 358 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: and Michigan. If I'm nitpicking Michigan. We talked about this 359 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: on the show this past week. It's a question of 360 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: what does their offense look like in terms of when 361 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: they perform against even Illinois but usually just Ohio State 362 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 2: really or if they end up in the Big Ten 363 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: championship game in the red zone. They don't trust JJ McCarthy. 364 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 2: They're not turning, you know, scoring opportunities in two touchdowns 365 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: nearly as often as they should be. And that's the 366 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: nitpick against Michigan at the moment. Alabama is a defense 367 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: issue to me right now. They just don't seem to 368 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: be there against some of the better offenses that they've played. 369 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: It underscores the fact that I think there are three 370 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: really really good and deserving teams in Georgia, Ohio State, 371 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: and Tennessee, and then there's like a confusing falloff. 372 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: To me, one of the other teams that I wanted 373 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: to talk to you about is Oregon. Sure, Oregon is 374 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: in a unique position. I don't think they're under overrated here. 375 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: They're actually exactly where they are in the AP Top 376 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: twenty five pool at eight. But Oregon is a team 377 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: that very much has its season still in front of 378 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: it now. They're only lost. The season was in rather 379 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: embarrassing fashion to your point earlier. It is as if 380 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: the committee did to some extent look at this and 381 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: say Week one, what was that? Everybody has a Week 382 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: one now? And again you have to have that experience. 383 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: But Oregon's only loss out of conference can obviously still 384 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: win the Pac twelve. Sitting there at eight, knowing that 385 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: there are teams in front of them that I think 386 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: have real opportunity to drop a game. Alabama could easily drop. 387 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: Another game could happen this weekend. TCU. You know, we 388 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: have questions about TCU. Michigan and Ohio State are going 389 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: to play, Georgia and Tennessee are going to play. Suddenly 390 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: there are a lot of one loss teams that are 391 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: clogging up the works there, and Oregon has gotten better. Oregon, 392 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: I think, has that going for him. It's one of 393 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: the things we've heard the Committee say in years past. 394 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Whenever there's a team that feels like they are trending 395 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: in a positive direction, you know, they tend to get 396 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: some love from the Committee. So with the remaining schedule 397 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: that Oregon's got in, with what you've seen as an 398 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: Oregon fan and as an Oregon alum, how they've looked 399 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, how do you feel 400 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: looking at the teams in front of them, knowing that 401 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: it's still kind of game on for the Ducks. 402 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: Defense is an issue, and at times it is a 403 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: really big issue for Oregon and with who they have 404 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: in front of them. I'm not terribly worried as an 405 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: Oregon fan right now about Washington, but you know what 406 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: we do when we see rivalry situations, you got to 407 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: throw the records out tie. But Washington defense, Washington's defense 408 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: has sort of fell fallen off a cliff as well. 409 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit less worried about Washington than 410 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: perhaps I was after that Michigan State game. Utah is dangerous, dangerous, dangerous, 411 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: and obviously Utah laid the lumber on Oregon at the 412 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: end of last season twice, both in Rice Ecles and 413 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: in Vegas. But this is a two loss Utah team 414 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: who is quite beat up. They're not terribly explosive on offense, 415 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: and they've gotten pushed around more than we're used to 416 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: seeing on defense, which is really really good news for 417 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: Oregon because this is the number one most successful rushing 418 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: and number one most successful passing team in the nation, 419 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: and that includes a catastrophic performance against Georgia. Their success 420 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: rate rushing and passing is number one in the nation, 421 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: which is just bafflingly impressive all things considered with where 422 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: they were in Week one. So I think they're in 423 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: great shape to run the regular season table with Utah 424 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: being the biggest threat. But it's in Austin Stadium, very 425 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: difficult place to play in a revenge spot and then 426 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: what's looking like USC and potentially or potentially a rematch 427 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: with the UCLA. If Oregon runs the table, two teams 428 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: entirely capable of gashing this Oregon defense. The good news 429 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: if your Oregon, though, is they've got a very good quarterback. 430 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: They've got a very good offensive coaching staff and good 431 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: skill talent and an offensive line around that quarterback in Bonix, 432 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: who's performed really, really well since that Georgia game at 433 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: like a pseudo Heisman caliber level. Yeah, and then we 434 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: have TCU ahead of Oregon, with I think Baylor's left. 435 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: I want to. 436 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: Say Texas is left for TCU. Alabama with a couple 437 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: of heavyweights left, with LSU and ole Miss left on 438 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: their schedule. Michigan of course, as Ohio State. Clemson schedule 439 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: is fine, but they do have Notre Dame this coming week. 440 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: Georgia of course has Tennessee and then you know, a 441 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: potential matchup with with I guess either ole Miss or 442 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: LSU or Alabama or whoever in the SEC championship game. 443 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: And Ohio State essentially just has Michigan left. And so 444 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: Oregon's in a really good position to hang around and 445 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: just draft off of that opportunity truck. Should they be 446 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: able to keep this pace up on. 447 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: Offense, I don't know. I'm intrigued by Oregon USC also 448 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: sitting there totally. We shall see what the remainder of 449 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the season has in store for the Trojans. Obviously they 450 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: still have a lot to play for as well, but 451 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: they need some help being so they are currently at 452 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: number nine. Other than that, I think what it sets 453 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: up in week ten is a very intriguing set of action, 454 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: very intriguing slate that will have perhaps apps ramifications that 455 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: reach a little deeper than once expected. Tennessee and Georgia. 456 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: We always knew that was going to be a big contest, 457 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: right We knew from the moment that Tennessee knocked off Alabama, 458 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: from the minute that they went out there and just 459 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: murdered Kentucky, that this road tilt this weekend at Georgia. 460 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: By the way, they're an eight and a half point dog. 461 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: We'll get into that in our pick show on Thursday. 462 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: This is a huge matchup as a top five matchup 463 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: now between Tennessee and Georgia. Also this weekend in the SEC, 464 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: A huge weekend in the SEC by the way, SEC East, 465 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: SEC West alike, with big matchups. You've got Alabama number 466 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: six at number ten. LSU to your point from earlier 467 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: about almost as if the committee is setting the table 468 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: for Alabama to have a stronger case to jump up. 469 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: We can let the conspiracy theories run a muck if 470 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: we want, but LSU is a good team one way 471 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: or the other. A win over LSU is a win 472 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: over a top at worst fifteen team right now in 473 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Week ten, and so Alabama's got a their form. Alabama 474 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: is about a twelve point favorite on the road in 475 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge this coming weekend. And then the other one 476 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: here outside of the SEC, outside of the South that 477 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I think has big time ramifications is obviously that Clemson 478 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame game right now, Clemson favored by about four 479 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: and a half points. It feels low to me, but 480 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: there are some indicators among any of these teams that 481 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: we've seen. I think in the top five, Clemson seems 482 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: to be the one from a number standpoint that looks 483 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: the most vulnerable. Clemson at Notre Dame at Night, tough game. 484 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: It look Notre Dame is not what they were last 485 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: season or a couple seasons ago, but still Notre Dame 486 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: at Night's tough place to play, and they've got a defense. 487 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: Can I give you ty Can I give you the 488 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: little stinker in this rankings? 489 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: Please? Please? There is a. 490 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: Team with one loss that has upcome matchups with a 491 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: top five team and potentially two top five teams that 492 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: could make all sorts of noise, not just for themselves, 493 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: but just cause ramifications and be the nucleus of chaos 494 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: ahead of us. Do you know who I'm referencing? 495 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: Are you talking about Illinois? I'm talking about Illinois? 496 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: Tie? 497 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: What month are we in? We are in November? 498 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: Novembert Ortolana Rotig, Ortolana. 499 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: Rotig, November. That's right, that's right. 500 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: What do you do with Illinois if that defense comes 501 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: to play and beats Michigan and beats Ohio State. Look, 502 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: I know this is far fetched. I know we're going 503 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: in a weird direction, but I am just telling you 504 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: this sport gets decided on the field. What do you 505 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: do with a twelve and one Illinois fighting Alion I 506 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: with a completely terrible, inexcusable I know ALLIONI fans will 507 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: point to a bad call in the end zone against Indiana, 508 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: But with two potential top five, top four, top three 509 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: when they play wins, what do you do with Illinois? 510 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: To be clear, Illinois has Michigan in the regular season 511 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: Week twelve. It's an interesting spot to get Michigan. It 512 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: is on the road, it is in arbor. However, it 513 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: is the week before the Ohio State game, so potentially 514 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: a look ahead spot that tends to happen in college football. 515 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: It hasn't really happened in Michigan yet, but it's worth 516 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: noting given the fact that Illinois plays such good defense. 517 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: If Illinois runs the table, Illinois wins the Big Ten West, 518 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Illinois presumably goes to the Big Ten championship, and if 519 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State makes it through, then they would get their 520 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: crack in the conference championship game in Indiana apples against 521 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: Ohio State. So look, stranger things have happened. This would 522 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: be pretty strange. That would be very strange. This as 523 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: things go. I mean, Brett Bielma probably has a case 524 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: for National Coach of the Year at this point with 525 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: the way that he has coached up this defense and 526 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: the offense seems like it's getting better. They've definitely formed 527 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: more of an identity as things have gone along here. 528 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I think the fact alone that Illinois is ranked not 529 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: just in this top twenty five pole, but in the 530 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: top sixteen of this top twenty five pole is just 531 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: an incredible accomplishment for what he's done in a very 532 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: short period of time. So this is not to say 533 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: that Illinois can score with any of the teams we mentioned, 534 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: but they clearly have the defense to keep that one interesting. 535 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's all you can ask. 536 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: There's also, by the way, just in terms of like 537 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: kind of outside the top ten and the potential to 538 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: disrupt and sort of slingshot themselves into an interesting conversation. 539 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: Another team who's not perfect, who I don't think is 540 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: a complete team. It's interesting though UCLA has USC left 541 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: believe that game is in the Rose Bowl, not a true, real, 542 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: real road game for USC, but it's not at the Coliseum, 543 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: and a chance to avenge should they run the table 544 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: and end up in the top two in the PAC 545 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: twelve and avenge the win against Oregon and that would 546 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: be in Vegas if they end up playing Oregon in 547 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: that PAC twelve championship game. It's an interesting slingshot twelve 548 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: and one UCLA because at that point you wouldn't be 549 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: able to hold the loss against Oregon against them. Should 550 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: they beat them, and I think it's the Friday night 551 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: we're actually doing a live show in Atlanta. Should they 552 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: avenge that loss, that's another quiet slingshot team. It's seven 553 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: to one with potential for a really interesting record. 554 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: Slingshot team. Yeah, I want to know from people, who 555 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: is your slingshot team. I want to know what did 556 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: the committee get right? What did the committee get wrong? 557 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: Is Book Oregon's real name Boomshaka Laca is Dan mentioned? 558 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: It has to be, it has to be. This is 559 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: one of those subjects, as you know, Dan, that people 560 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: have very very spirited opinions on the playoff rankings generally 561 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: only appeal to a small sliver of teams. Right they're 562 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: suing twenty five teams here. You want your team to 563 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: be ranked, presumably, you want your team to be ranked 564 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: in the top twelve ish, so that you maybe get 565 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: a crack at this thing when push comes to shove. 566 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: But it is always kind of a I don't know, 567 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: a landmark every college football season. When this first set 568 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: of ranking drops, it means that we are starting to 569 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: round the bend into the final month of the season. 570 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: We're going to start to try and work this thing out, 571 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: presumably on the field. One other note too, Lane ooh 572 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: Rhys Davis brought up a really interesting point on number 573 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: nineteen to two. Lane, given the fact that we are 574 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: imminently going to expand this playoff. I don't know when, 575 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, they haven't given us the official date. It 576 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: could be as soon as two years from now, it 577 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: could be you know, three or four years down the line. 578 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: Who knows. But Tulane in the new system would stand 579 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: to get a playoff berth because they're the highest rated 580 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: G five team. It would also obviously extend this conversation out. 581 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: The conversation would shift from do we really think Michigan 582 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: should be five behind Clemson? Suddenly we're talking about LSU 583 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: at ten or Kansas State UCLA at twelve and thirteen? 584 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: What does that mean? So that is where this is 585 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: headed a couple of years down the line. We're not 586 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: there yet, but this is just what you have to 587 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: look forward to. I know you're looking forward to this. 588 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: You'll love a big playoff. I do. And it's also 589 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: you're talking about I love a huge playoff. You know me. 590 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: That Tulane has that Kansas State feather not for resume purposes, 591 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: but for what can this team do against another playoff 592 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: team purposes? That Tulane doesn't do anything spectacularly well except 593 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: I think they prevent big plays at a pretty impressive clip. 594 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: But no, it's difficult to see Tulane scoring thirty five 595 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: points with any of the teams I guess other than 596 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: they're behind Illinois. I believe other than Illinois, that they'd 597 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: have to score thirty thirty five points or whatever, because 598 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: presumably a lot of these offenses are going to do 599 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: that to Tulane's defense. But nonetheless, I like that Tulane 600 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: schedule Kansas tale like the Kansas State scheduled Tulane, and 601 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: we have a better sense of it, just like we 602 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: had with Cincinnati and Notre Dame last year and to 603 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: a no extent when Cincinnati scheduled Indiana, that we have 604 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: that sense that, oh okay, tu Lane's here to play. 605 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: They've beaten a top twenty team, a top twenty college 606 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: football playoff team, and it's more intriguing because of it 607 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: to have them in this field. 608 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm good with it. One other stinker team that I 609 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: have to mention, I have referred to North came Carolina 610 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: as an ultra quiet one loss team. North Carolina is 611 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: interesting to me. North Carolina's remaining schedule is on the 612 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: road at Virginia and wake to very winnable games Georgia 613 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: Tech and NC State to close out the season at home. 614 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: That is significant because nowhere on this schedule are the 615 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: Clemson Tigers. This is another matchup that we could see 616 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: occur if Clemson wins out, if UNC wins out in 617 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: that conference championship game in the ACC. I don't know 618 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: who I'd pick there. Honestly, I don't know who I 619 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: would pick there. Given the fact that UNC is playing 620 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: offense at such a high level, I think it would 621 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: be an interesting case for UNC. They don't obviously have 622 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: the defense, though the defense has improved, they would obviously 623 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: be at a bit of a disadvantage there. But with 624 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: the way that Drake May is playing right now, and 625 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: with I think some of the vulnerability we've seen from Clemson, 626 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: especially in like the intermediate passing game right like, they're 627 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: not getting in the quarterback to the extent that maybe 628 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: we thought at the start of the season. They're not 629 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: necessarily giving up big plays, but there's a lot of 630 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: underneath stuff that is still right for the tanking and 631 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: the way that Drake May is playing quarterback right now, 632 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: presumably he's somebody who can take advantage of that. So 633 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: that's just one other matchup, you know, if you want 634 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: to go the full Illinois. Hypothetical talk about what could 635 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: happen in conference championship week North Carolina Conference championship game 636 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: against Clemson could be really dicey. I'll tell you this, ty, 637 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: whatever you want to compare in terms of little stinkers 638 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: in Illinois, Illinois did not give up nearly fifty points 639 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: to the Drew Pine Notre Dame offense. North Carolina most 640 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: certainly did. That's all. I am not making the case 641 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: for North Carolina in the playoff. I am making the 642 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: case for North Carolina as an X factor that could 643 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: determine which direction this thing goes. Fair enough, Okay, So 644 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: here's the deal. As always, we want to hear from 645 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: the VERBA. Let us know your thoughts. Yes, you can 646 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: do so by reaching out to us on social media 647 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: by dropping us a line at soliverble at gmail dot com. 648 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: If you are already part of the Verballer Discord of 649 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: our solid verbal Patreon community, we would love to hear 650 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: from you. Let us know who's too high, who's too low, 651 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: what the committee got wrong or right. 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It is the 661 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: night before the big slate of conference championship games on 662 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Saturday the third. It is the night of potential, your 663 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks playing for a PAC twelve championship. 664 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: We might be hustling to a nearby bar with a 665 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: bunch of our ballers for them to watch me lose 666 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: my mind and answer seven hundred and thirty eight texts 667 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: from Oregon people as I'm watching the game. If Oregon 668 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: ends up in that game, if they end up playing 669 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 2: USC or Utah and or UCLA, whatever, there's a long 670 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: ways to go until that game. But if that's a 671 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: unique experience that you're interested in, that might be made possible. 672 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 2: The feedback I've gotten personally from our New York show, 673 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 2: from our Chicago show, people have pulled me aside after 674 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: the show and they've said, I know you've said this 675 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: on the show, but I didn't believe the magnitude to 676 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 2: which you were right. Tie is so much more handsome 677 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: and charming in person. 678 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: Now, Thank you, Dan, thank you. 679 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: Was it your mother and mother in law who did 680 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: that in the New York show? Possibly potentially, but you know, 681 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 2: one person in Chicago said, you know, I was thinking 682 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: Idris Elba for the New Bond, but then then I 683 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: went to solid Verballive dot com snapped up one of them, 684 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: the very few tickets left for one of these shows, 685 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 2: shook Tie's hand after and said, I could not believe 686 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: how compelling of a presence he had, and it changed 687 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 2: everything for me. So soliverblelive dot com. 688 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: Soliverblive dot com, come and see us in Atlanta, as 689 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: they tell me, Atlanta at Terminal West. That show again 690 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: is on December twod and last, but certainly not at 691 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: least we appreciate everybody hanging with us here going through 692 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: all things college football Playoff version one. We are doing 693 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of bonus content with our friends over 694 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: at Apple Podcasts. We're calling it the postgame Tailgate. If 695 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: you go on out to our page on Apple Now 696 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: you can see that exclusive content. It gives you an 697 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: eye a way to react in a little bit more 698 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: detail each week after we record our weekly recap show. 699 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: Just a game, just a topic, just something that got 700 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: stuck in our craw that maybe we didn't have time 701 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: to talk about because we were busy talking about sixty 702 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: five other games, but something we wanted to give a 703 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: little bit more attention to and more importantly react to, 704 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: like humans like college football fans. Yeah, bring the passion, 705 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: bring the emotion into the thing. It is again called 706 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: the postgame Tailgate. Go on out to our page on 707 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, and we'd urge you to check it out. 708 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. 709 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: It's a really good time. We get to nitpick a 710 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: little bit, We get to deep dive some of the contexts, 711 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: some of the nuggets involved in the games. I felt 712 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 2: like we were sort of information monkeys picking off the 713 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: ticks of games in front of us, like ooh, one 714 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: of the right there, Ooh, let's talk about this defense, Ooh, 715 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: let's talk about this drive. Ooh, let's talk about this player. 716 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 2: That's been really fun. We did it for Oregon UCLA 717 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago, and we did it for both 718 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: the Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan Michigan State games 719 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: this past weekend. 720 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: More to come on that front. We appreciate our great 721 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: partners over at Apple Podcasts. That is it for this episode. 722 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: Don't forget tomorrow week ten picks. It's going to be 723 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: a big one. There is a lot on the line 724 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 725 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hilton Brandt. We will talk to you 726 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: all soon. Stay solid, peace,