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Speaker 1: to a TP show. It's happening. The long rumored Fight

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Speaker 1: Island now officially a thing. UFC announced that they're going

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Speaker 1: to host four events on an island off Abu Dhabi

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Speaker 1: that'll be in July. I don't know if it's actually

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Speaker 1: called Fight Island, but it's kind of like Sky Judge

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Speaker 1: with the NFL. I love it Fight Island. UFC President

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Speaker 1: Dana White says the reason they're doing it because they

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Speaker 1: need the international competitors and you couldn't get those into

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Speaker 1: the United States during the pandemic. Here is the UFC

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Speaker 1: president Dana White. Abu Dhabi has actually created the safety

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Speaker 1: zone on the island within ten square miles will just

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Speaker 1: be inhabited by us. It'll include an arena, hotels, training

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Speaker 1: facilities for the fighters that are private dining establishments. And yes,

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Speaker 1: there is an octagon on the beach. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I hope they take advantage though of the sites there

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Speaker 1: to let people remind people because once you get into

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Speaker 1: the octagon you could be anywhere in the world. It's

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Speaker 1: showing people showcasing Abu Dhabi and the fact that you

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Speaker 1: actually have fire Island, so the aerial shots there, you

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Speaker 1: need to have big letters there Fight Island there. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you could get Jeff Probst, maybe we could get him

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Speaker 1: from Survivor to go to Abu Dhabi to host Fight Island.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Logistics society, you have to admit it

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Speaker 1: sounds pretty cool. It makes the NBA going off to

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Speaker 1: Orlando seem kind of lame, like that's sort of a

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Speaker 1: pedestrian there. And who knows, this might be the first

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Speaker 1: step towards a UFC theme park. I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you have a Conor McGregor ride or John Jones roller

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Speaker 1: coaster ride, and if you're an MMA fan, it would

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Speaker 1: be great to sneak on too, Fire Island. Even though

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Speaker 1: that's not happening. UFC has been able to provide continuity

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Speaker 1: that other sports happen. Even if Fight Island is just

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Speaker 1: a short term solution. You got to give the UFC

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Speaker 1: credit because they're being creative and hopefully staying safe for

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Speaker 1: the time being. And then you have Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: You know, here you have UFC. They're going to take

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Speaker 1: over an island. Major League Baseball. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: we are, but it's my duty, my obligation to continue

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Speaker 1: to try to figure out where we're headed with this.

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Speaker 1: Because now Baseball, after their proposal for fifty games, MLB

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Speaker 1: Players Asociation now an eighty nine games schedule. You know,

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Speaker 1: you start to look at the financial part of this,

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Speaker 1: because that's what this is about. Major League Baseball doesn't

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Speaker 1: care about the player's health. They just want them to

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Speaker 1: be able to come back. The owners want to make

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Speaker 1: their money in the postseason. Now you have the commissioner

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Speaker 1: who says, hey, I can tell you that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a strike short strike shortened season of at least

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Speaker 1: fifty games, and I don't need the players approval on this,

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Speaker 1: which is true, but you start to look at the

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Speaker 1: amount of money and you owners are never going to

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Speaker 1: tell you the truth. They don't have to, they don't

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Speaker 1: have to open their books. But let's just look at this.

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Speaker 1: According to Forbes, so I'm just going buy the numbers here,

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball brought in over ten and a half

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Speaker 1: billion dollars last year. That's according to Forbes. Players salaries

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Speaker 1: probably around four billion dollars out of that ten point

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Speaker 1: seven billion, So that means there's about six billion dollars

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Speaker 1: worth of expenses. Apparently sounds like the owners are making

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Speaker 1: some money here. I can't imagine an owner is going

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Speaker 1: to go, I don't make any money, but I'm going

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Speaker 1: to continue to own a team. Now you can say, well,

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Speaker 1: the value goes up, and maybe you're just trying to

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Speaker 1: live season to season. The owners won't open their books.

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Speaker 1: But average ticket price has gone from twenty two dollars

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Even as baseball's attendance declines every year, the

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Speaker 1: league is still generating record revenues every year. So somebody's

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Speaker 1: making money somewhere. And I know that you're not getting

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Speaker 1: fans in the stands, and the owners will say we're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose five hundred thousand dollars per game, whatever that

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Speaker 1: number is. It feels like you're still making money. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much money you're making. The owners are

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Speaker 1: looking at a bigger picture long term, whereas the players

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Speaker 1: are looking at short term. They're looking, I want my money,

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Speaker 1: I want all my money now. The owners are saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we want to do what's best for baseball. We want

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Speaker 1: to have a season, even if it's fifty games. They're

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Speaker 1: looking at this because they're they're owners of teams. The

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Speaker 1: players come and go. The owners, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: they hold on for dear life to these franchises. They're

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Speaker 1: looking at a bigger picture here. It's not pretty and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to get prettier anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk to Bob Costas about this coming up. Mcleven,

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Speaker 1: you got a poll question for me today. Okay, A

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Speaker 1: couple of things off of what you're just talking about.

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Speaker 1: First of all, if you had the means and had

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Speaker 1: either a press paster or allowed in, would you go

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Speaker 1: to Fight Island in July? Yeah, I've never been to

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Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi. Be kind of nice. I have a friend

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Speaker 1: who covers UFC, and he said, and he actually covers

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Speaker 1: boxing as well. He got tested yesterday or the day before.

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Speaker 1: There was there were fights last night. He got tested

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Speaker 1: the day before and he got quarantine for six hours

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Speaker 1: and then he went to cover the fight. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd go to Abu Dhabi and go to Fight Island. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mcluban side question, if you were younger without a family,

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Speaker 1: would you have quarantined with the NBA for two months?

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Speaker 1: If you were say when you were an earlier reporter

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Speaker 1: or even now, would you do that because the reporters

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Speaker 1: might have to quarantine in Orlando for two months? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If I was younger, like when you were covering the finals,

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Speaker 1: do you think you would have been okay with that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I it's not just me who would have to be

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Speaker 1: okay with it and have to be my wife. But

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Speaker 1: probably at the time. Yeah, we were tiring to Chris Mannix,

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Speaker 1: our friend if he wants to do it, he said,

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Speaker 1: it's really complicated. Well, yeah, you just want to know

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Speaker 1: what the testing, you know, what are the safety guidelines

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Speaker 1: and are you staying on you know the lot there

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Speaker 1: in Orlando. You know, as long as everybody is doing

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Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do, then yeah, I would be

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Speaker 1: fine with covering it. What else? Okay? Baseball pole, Oh god,

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Speaker 1: how many games are they gonna play? Fifty eighty nine

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Speaker 1: zero point zero? How about an over under here, Paullie. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we're betting today the overunder on regular season games played.

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Speaker 1: Let me call my guy. Hold on, h I got

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Speaker 1: a guy who could do this fast on the over under? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give me too minutes? Okay? What else? Think? Loving? Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you were an MLB player and they mandated a

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Speaker 1: fifty game season, would you play? Well, I guess I

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Speaker 1: have to. Well, we found it out. We were just

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Speaker 1: looking at the story that if you can prove that

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Speaker 1: you live with somebody who's high risk, then you can

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Speaker 1: get paid without playing. You know you can. But how

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Speaker 1: many are going to be able to do that? I

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Speaker 1: don't know how a judge if if let's say the

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Speaker 1: commissioner says, you're coming back and you're playing fifty games,

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Speaker 1: and you have to do this because you have contracts

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Speaker 1: and we agreed to this back in March. What if

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Speaker 1: a player, let's say Aaron judge, not that he would

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Speaker 1: do it, but let's say Aaron Judge goes, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to come back. I don't feel safe in the

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Speaker 1: New York area given all the COVID cases. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to come back. I don't feel safe. How would

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Speaker 1: a judge, and I'm talking about it if it got

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Speaker 1: to a federal judge, not just the players association or

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Speaker 1: an arbitrator. But if you said, look, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to come back. I don't feel safe, how's it judge

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Speaker 1: going to go? I'm going to side with Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball in the commissioner here. I mean, I'm curious. I

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Speaker 1: don't have the answer to this, but I was just wondering.

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell said he didn't want to come back now

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Speaker 1: it felt like it was about the money, but he

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Speaker 1: was also using safety, as that was the battering ram there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to come back. It's not worthy to

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Speaker 1: come back for my health. We've made huge progress in

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Speaker 1: the safety, the testing, social distancing, all those things. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if remember the Yankees and met says, I, Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm at the epicenter here. I don't want to come back.

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous about this yeah seed. Part of this argument though,

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Speaker 1: feels like it's about a month late or a month old.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about coming back and if it's

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Speaker 1: safe or not. In like, youth sports are starting up

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Speaker 1: do that. So we can send ten year olds to

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Speaker 1: go back and play you know, soccer or baseball, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. But these dudes can't figure out if they

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Speaker 1: can go back for a couple million dollars. No, it

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Speaker 1: feels like it's so old. Well, they're worried about baseball

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Speaker 1: implementing a salary cap. There's a lot of other things here.

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Speaker 1: It's not just going back, it's fifty games and now

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Speaker 1: we're going to control your pay and now we're going

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Speaker 1: to tell you what you can make. Baseball has always

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Speaker 1: been you know, free enterprise here, capitalism at its finest,

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Speaker 1: that you're going to be able to pay what you

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Speaker 1: want to pay. I think the players are worried about

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Speaker 1: if we come back now all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: commissioners dictating everything here, and the players Association has been

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Speaker 1: very strong in many decades. I think that the opt

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Speaker 1: wouldn't look good for players coming back. But if I'm

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Speaker 1: a player or some of these more key players say, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm just not comfortable. You know, Mike Trout can say

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Speaker 1: my wife's pregnant, I'm worried if I get the virus. Like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's a good arguing point publicly,

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Speaker 1: But I just wonder if everybody has to come back,

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Speaker 1: then why doesn't the commissioner just say fifty games, it's

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Speaker 1: starting July tenth, let's go, and then then we're done

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Speaker 1: with it, Because what are we waiting for? Are we

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Speaker 1: waiting for eighty one games? Are we waiting for seventy

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Speaker 1: five games? How about we just do fifty games and

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Speaker 1: then everybody can come back. You can get some paychecks,

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Speaker 1: and then the owners. The owners are worried about the

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Speaker 1: second wave of the coronavirus and that would interrupt the postseason.

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Speaker 1: If it interrupts the postseason, the owners are rolling the

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Speaker 1: dice on We're gonna have a season, but I want

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Speaker 1: that postseason. And if that season goes away, then the

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Speaker 1: owners would be losing a considerable amount of money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the commissioner had the power to stop the season. Does

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Speaker 1: he have the power to restart the season anytime he wants,

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Speaker 1: with everything in place as it was four months ago,

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Speaker 1: three months ago. Like imagine he said, we're starting in

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Speaker 1: three weeks and everyone will be paid exactly the rate

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Speaker 1: that they did before. Does he have that kind of

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Speaker 1: power basically saying we're restarting the season and everyone will

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Speaker 1: be at the same salary, same everything, and I'm in

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Speaker 1: charge here, because then the players will be super happy.

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Speaker 1: They get their games and they get full game checks,

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Speaker 1: and the owners they'll have to eat it. The commissier

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Speaker 1: should just say we're starting. Here's the date, you guys,

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Speaker 1: You're good. Yeah, that show. We're waiting for it. I

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Speaker 1: can have breaking news and have a source and tell

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Speaker 1: all you guys they're playing fifty games and it's starting

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Speaker 1: next Thursday, and they would have the same response with

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Speaker 1: two sources. Okay. In the baseball during the commercial break,

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Speaker 1: you were trying to tell a couple of jokes, right,

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know if they were jokes. I was picture.

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Speaker 1: One of them was picture and you were talking about

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Speaker 1: the lovely Abu Dhabi in the island. Imagine the two

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Speaker 1: fighters instead of being on some stage somewhere, they're doing

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Speaker 1: the staring contests on a little canoe or the boat,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe you know how sometimes they get out

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Speaker 1: of hand or scriptating, one pushes the other one into

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Speaker 1: the water and as alligators. Yeah, And the other thing

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Speaker 1: was a reference to the UFC, and there's alligators. That's

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Speaker 1: a hot Alligators are big in that horanas on whatever

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Speaker 1: you're throwing there. Then see what happens one of them

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Speaker 1: falls in, and I guess the five would be canceled

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Speaker 1: if one got attacked. And that's why we didn't really

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Speaker 1: laugh or acknowledge it. The other thing I emailed you,

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Speaker 1: which I guess you try to protect me, was about

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Speaker 1: the UFC versus Major League Baseball. The UFC is able

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Speaker 1: to put everything together on an island, and Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: Slow down a little bit. Okay, just slow down a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Okay, now tell I'm gonna make you. They

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Speaker 1: don't have a great deliver No, no, you do, and

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Speaker 1: the materials not great. Apply both of those together, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get a lot of all right, So

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Speaker 1: slow it down in your own stage at Carolines. And

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Speaker 1: then this is your observational joke. But it's I know

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Speaker 1: it's lacking of the humor part of observations gam but

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Speaker 1: what I was saying, oh, I know, we love that phrase.

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Speaker 1: It gets it all setter with I have nothing to say.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing that poorly rhymes here. The UFC has

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Speaker 1: gone out of its way for its fans, and they

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Speaker 1: bought an island. Basically, they found out what to do

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Speaker 1: with an island, but Major League Baseball can't even figure

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Speaker 1: out what to do with a little diamond. As the

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Speaker 1: baseball players playing out a diamond, I was doing an

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Speaker 1: island diamond reference, which really doesn't get us anywhere. And

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Speaker 1: once again, I take the shower into a dark left

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Speaker 1: field spot and you can't bring it back to any

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Speaker 1: sense of interest. I just I say to you, I

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Speaker 1: try to help you. There was no observational humor in

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Speaker 1: your observation, and it wasn't even a great observation. We

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Speaker 1: really want to but then you so now you get

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Speaker 1: mad at me because you can't say anything on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I try to protect you when you do want

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Speaker 1: to say something. Is that why what I've been raising

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Speaker 1: my headed recently? You'll look it right through, pretending that

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Speaker 1: in my head you should thank me, and then you

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Speaker 1: call me what I'm not ra in my hand, And

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Speaker 1: then I gets like, oh, you don't you pay attention

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Speaker 1: to the show, Paul, I just said that three seconds ago.

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Speaker 1: I felt the need to repeat the exact sample. See

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Speaker 1: you know that's funny. Are you done? I'm done? Back

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Speaker 1: to in the studio, all right. I thought this is

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Speaker 1: a fun segment so far. Yeah, that's great. Do we

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Speaker 1: have a let's start over? It might be my guild

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Speaker 1: of not having like a nine way five guests. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I gotta fill some time with some bad

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Speaker 1: but you make it worse by not having a nine time,

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Speaker 1: and then and then you can't segue from what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying it to anything interesting you're you're on the spot

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Speaker 1: now trying to get the show back on track. It's

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Speaker 1: my full I apologize for that. Okay, Uh, last night

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Speaker 1: I had some downtime, so I was looking at NBA

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Speaker 1: stats and not current players. I was looking at Will

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Speaker 1: Chamberlaine stats, Bill Russell stats, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson. Because

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Speaker 1: you know, as we get older or you're a new

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Speaker 1: generation and you're watching the NBA, you just hear about

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Speaker 1: these names, and we know Bill Russell was the greatest

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Speaker 1: team winner of all time. And I thought it would

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Speaker 1: be interesting to pose the question, do you know what

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Speaker 1: you know some of Bill Russell's stats? Great rebounder, block shots,

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Speaker 1: great team player, wonderful team player. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: Bill Russell shot from the field? What was his field

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Speaker 1: goal percentage for his career? It was forty four percent.

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Speaker 1: He very limited offensively. Now, he did have a couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons where he averaged I think nineteen or eighteen

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Speaker 1: points per game. But why is it that we can

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Speaker 1: acknowledge Bill Russell's greatness but not Will chamberlains Why is

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Speaker 1: it we acknowledge Babe ruce greatness but not Will Chamberlain?

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Speaker 1: What now you can say we he didn't win. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he didn't win, but I got Bill Russell's numbers, and

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Speaker 1: Bill Russell didn't put up great numbers rebounding and block

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Speaker 1: shots and wonderful team player. Why is it that we

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Speaker 1: look at Babe Ruth where there was no integration and

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Speaker 1: then we say, man, greatest player of all time? And

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Speaker 1: I've said that before. He won over ninety games as

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Speaker 1: a pitcher, probably would have been a Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: as a pitcher, and of course what he did as

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Speaker 1: you know, a hitter, but with Wilt Chamberlain and there

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Speaker 1: was integration then, and you can say, well, he didn't

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Speaker 1: have other big men to go against. Okay, you're going

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Speaker 1: to get the same big men that Bill Russell was,

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Speaker 1: and he went against Bill Russell. When Wild scored one

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Speaker 1: hundred points, I believe that night he had forty one rebounds.

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Speaker 1: That is a week for some players. He had one

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Speaker 1: hundred points and forty one rebounds. He had a couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons where he averaged I think eight and a

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Speaker 1: half and seven and a half assist per per game.

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Speaker 1: But we don't, we won't acknowledge Wilt Chamberlain because well

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Speaker 1: he's moody. You know, he wasn't a great team player,

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Speaker 1: he didn't win. He had all this talent, but I

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Speaker 1: just I just found that interesting that he played during

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Speaker 1: segregate that there it was not segregated. You had integration.

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Speaker 1: Babe Ruth didn't. And we acknowledge everything that Babe did.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like Will Chamberlain is starting to drift

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Speaker 1: out of the top ten of greatest players of all time.

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Speaker 1: I find it amazing. If Will Chamberlain had five championships,

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Speaker 1: is he the greatest player of all time? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: because we say Michael Jordan's the greatest player of all time.

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Speaker 1: All right, we didn't have the most titles, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: when wait a minute here, when did the titles matter?

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Speaker 1: And when don't they matter? Does they have two titles?

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Speaker 1: One in Philly one in Los Angeles? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's two more than Dan Marino. Not I know, apples

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Speaker 1: and oranges, but two. It's not like he has zero.

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Speaker 1: But he should have won more. It's like we look

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Speaker 1: at Shack should have won more. Like the big guy

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Speaker 1: never gets credit, but Bill Russell gets credit. And Bill

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Speaker 1: Russell had a team full of Hall of famers, had

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Speaker 1: the greatest coach, GM I think in NBA history in

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Speaker 1: red Arbok, but we don't look at his numbers because

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Speaker 1: his numbers he was a good rebounder and blockshots. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a scorer, wasn't a good shooter, didn't shoot well

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Speaker 1: from the line. Wilt didn't either. But Wilt's numbers, I know,

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Speaker 1: Babe had more home runs than teams did at one point.

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Speaker 1: Wilt numbers dwarf everybody and what he was doing, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you averaged fifty a night. Fifty and twenty six he

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Speaker 1: averaged that year, and that might have been the same

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Speaker 1: year that Oscar had a triple double. But boy, do

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Speaker 1: we we acknowledge Oscar's triple double, don't we? And Oscar

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Speaker 1: won one championship. Oscars ranked higher than Wilt Chamberlain is

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Speaker 1: in people's minds. So why is it that triple double

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Speaker 1: that Oscar had is so much more important than what

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Speaker 1: Will did in the same year when he averaged fifty

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Speaker 1: and twenty six. It's just how we approached this, the

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Speaker 1: stats and how we use them, depending on what your

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Speaker 1: argument it is. And look, was Wilt the ideal teammate

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Speaker 1: and though he was none was Bill Russell? I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he was? But I just I think history is unfair

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Speaker 1: to Will Chamberlain in his dominance because I don't know

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Speaker 1: if anybody's ever dominated their sport the way Will Chamberlain did.

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Speaker 1: Babe was great, but then we saw Lou Garrig in

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Speaker 1: the same lineup, and Lou Garrig held his own with

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Speaker 1: Babe Ruth. Will Chamberlain in a team sport, I can't

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Speaker 1: think of anybody who was so much better than everybody

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Speaker 1: else numbers wise, but we don't acknowledge that greatness. And

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Speaker 1: I think at some point we're gonna look at Will

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain outside of the top ten. I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, is Steph Curry in

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Speaker 1: the top ten? He might already be Championships greatest shooter

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Speaker 1: of all time? Is the Greek freak going to get

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Speaker 1: in there? Who's going to be pushed down the list?

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Speaker 1: Because with the new wave coming in, who are those

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Speaker 1: guys who are going to get into the top ten

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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. Is Larry Bird going

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Speaker 1: to be a top ten player in ten years from now?

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Speaker 1: You would assume, but I don't know that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the pecking order. It's not going to change with

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Bill Russell will stay there because of eleven titles.

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan will stay there because of five titles. Karl

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Speaker 1: Malone does he stay in there? Never had a championship?

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Speaker 1: Does he stay Is he in the top ten? Is Oscar?

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Speaker 1: Jerry West? I'm just curious as time goes on, the

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Speaker 1: new wave, the next wave, and look, I love Jerry West.

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Speaker 1: But if you're saying, hey, look at Steph Curry's numbers

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Speaker 1: and he won more championships, Okay, maybe he's a better player.

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Speaker 1: Not in my opinion, at least not yet. But if

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Speaker 1: you know Steph continues to put up these numbers, wins

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Speaker 1: another championship, He's the greatest shooter of all time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Yeah, I'm a club. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: if you mentioned. But what if Durrant wins with a

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Speaker 1: different team, he'll skyrocket on that list. If he won

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, He's not going to get enough credit for

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Speaker 1: what happened at Golden State first of all. Now if

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Speaker 1: he wins in Brooklyn, yeah, he'll get a lot of credit.

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Speaker 1: It's like Lebron with the Lakers. You would think he

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Speaker 1: would get a lot more credit winning a title with

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Speaker 1: a third team. But I don't know if he'll get

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Speaker 1: that credit because it's Lebron and he went to the

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Speaker 1: Lakers and then he brought in Anthony Davis. He couldn't

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Speaker 1: have won without Anthony Davis. It's how we form our

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Speaker 1: arguments when we talk about these things. But just looking

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Speaker 1: at Wilson numbers, I mean, it's it's incredible. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I have a bit of a theory on Wilt Chamberlain.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see him play, but you saw a lot

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Speaker 1: more than I did. Did he go from Kansas to

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Speaker 1: the Globetrotters and then the NBA? Yeah, Okay. I always

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Speaker 1: wondered about that, and I wonder if people back then

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Speaker 1: maybe and now look at Wilt Chamberlain is almost like

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Speaker 1: an anomaly, a freak where he was somewhere so much

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Speaker 1: more tall and fast and strong than everybody else that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't fair. And they went from Kansas to playing

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Speaker 1: with the Globetrotters, which is a show, not an actual game,

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Speaker 1: to playing in the NBA, and they look at him

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Speaker 1: as like almost like Babe Ruth, where it wasn't really fair.

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Speaker 1: You can't compare him because he's not a normal person,

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Speaker 1: normal player. He was tall or bigger, it was too

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Speaker 1: easy for him and he doesn't get credit because of

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Speaker 1: his size. Well, I think that nobody likes the big guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nobody likes Goliath. They love David. Yeah. See, so I

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Speaker 1: apologize if you already mentioned this number, but they're according

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Speaker 1: to Will chamberlains Wikipedia page. They're talking about what his

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Speaker 1: favorite game is that he ever played in, and it's

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Speaker 1: a game that he got fifty five rebounds against Bill Russell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, fifty five rebounds in a game against Bill Russell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm club. I think it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: too because we see Wilt as a Laker a lot

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Speaker 1: Rodgers eventually be talked about like Dan is talking about

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Speaker 1: Will Chamberlain right now. If that makes sense, well, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not meant to be snarky. Now. I think Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers would have to do a little bit more in

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Speaker 1: his sport. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have gaudy numbers. Like his

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Speaker 1: impressive numbers are touchdown to interception ratio. That's it. Will,

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Speaker 1: It's got gaudy numbers. You know, Willed is second in

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Speaker 1: points per game in NBA history and it's just slightly

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Speaker 1: behind Michael Jordan. And keep in mind, Wilt Chamberlain got

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Speaker 1: bored with school. He scored so much he got bored,

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Speaker 1: and then he decided that he was going to play

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Speaker 1: the role that Bill Russell did with the Celtics, and

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Speaker 1: that is rebound block shots. And that's when the Lakers

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Speaker 1: had one of the greatest seasons in NBA history, when

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Speaker 1: they won thirty three games in a row. Paul and Iowa, hey, Paul,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Hedp one seventy.

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Speaker 1: So I my friends don't agree with me on this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming you won't either, But I don't. I

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Speaker 1: think that Will Chamberlain is only a top twenty player

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Speaker 1: because of his individual statistics. Okay, because if you look

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Speaker 1: at on the court, if he got bodied by Bill

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Speaker 1: Russell every time it mattered Bill Russell, Shawn Kemp size,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been able to do anything in the

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Speaker 1: nineties against bigger boys like Elijah On you and Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Shack's lucky. What do you think? What do you think

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Speaker 1: Bill Russell would have done? Well, he wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: as dominant because there were more big guys I know,

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Speaker 1: but everybody will be. People have Bill Russell in the

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Speaker 1: top five. How would Bill Russell do with a chemolize

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Speaker 1: you on and David Robinson and he was six to

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Speaker 1: eight maybe six nine, Yeah, he'd have less championships? Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: what and thank you, Paul. But what happens is we

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Speaker 1: diminish or denigrade because well, how would they do in

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Speaker 1: today's NBA that It's just not the way it works.

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Speaker 1: How would Will do? He was still seven one, two

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Speaker 1: seventy five back then, what would he be now? He'd

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Speaker 1: be seven one, three hundred pounds probably and able to

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Speaker 1: run the floor. I mean he was a great athlete

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Speaker 1: track and field. He was also a great volleyball player.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Will was a great athlete. It's just we

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Speaker 1: recognize Babe Ruth. We've embraced Babe Ruth. He was larger

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Speaker 1: than life. But Will Chamberlain with his numbers, We're like, Nope,

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Speaker 1: not going to include you in there. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know where he is placed. It feels like most top

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Speaker 1: tens is Will Chamberlain in the top ten rankings. Mcluvin.

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Speaker 1: I think so there was a list recently from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: I'll pull it up, but I think he was like five. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's got to be a list from ESPN because they

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Speaker 1: lead the league in list. Yeah, he's definitely like top

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Speaker 1: like four or five area. Okay, Yeah, I always wondered

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Speaker 1: that if it's you know, Jordan lebron Is at Bill Russell,

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Speaker 1: you know who else does Will then fall in line there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: point in the latest ESPN list he was sixth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know in ten years, I don't know if Wilt's

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Speaker 1: in there. I don't know if Bird is in there.

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Speaker 1: Is Bird like nine eight or nine seven seven? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Duncan eight. I think Duncan might get pushed out a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, but he's got the five titles. We

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Speaker 1: pick and choose when titles are really important and who

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Speaker 1: wins those titles? Yeah. Point. Bleacher Report had a list

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Speaker 1: recently and number nine all time was Will Chamberlain, number

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Speaker 1: ten with Steph Curry. You talk about people getting pushed

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Speaker 1: out and then you have, you know, the ego down

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Speaker 1: the list and there's other players that are on his heels. Wait,

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Speaker 1: give me the top ten there because it starts each report. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Jordan and then Lebron is two all time from Bleach Reports.

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Speaker 1: Most recent less they put out Deep Dive Michael Jordan, Lebron,

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Speaker 1: James Kareem Adul Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, which are

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Speaker 1: always put together, by the way, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan,

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Speaker 1: Bill Russell, Well Chamberlain, Steph Curry. Wait, where's Kobe? He

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Speaker 1: is not on the top two. That's silly. Oscar Robertson

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Speaker 1: is eleven, Kobe David Robinson is twelve. Where's Kobe? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Oh, come on, that's silly. Did it at

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Speaker 1: a high level? One titles? Five titles? Yeah, this was

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Speaker 1: from September twenty nineteen. Well, Kobe wasn't playing anymore. Okay, look,

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Speaker 1: it's all subjective. I get it. It's just like the

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Speaker 1: greatest shooters of all time. I saw where Rob Parker,

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Speaker 1: who I think right for dead Spin, said that Ray

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Speaker 1: Allen is a better shooter all time than Steph Curry. Yep,

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Speaker 1: he's Curry never hit big shots in the playoffs threes.

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Speaker 1: Well wait, what's that mean he throughout these numbers that

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Speaker 1: Curry's shooting potentage goes down at the end of big

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Speaker 1: playoff games. That was his clutch shots, is what he

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Speaker 1: gave Ray, Which is true. Ray Allen was a great

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Speaker 1: clutch shooter. Okay, but he was a clutch shooter where

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Speaker 1: he wasn't even the focal point of his team with

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Speaker 1: the Miami Heat. I'm aware of that. So he was

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Speaker 1: a role player. See this is silly. Ray Allen occasionally

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Speaker 1: hit big shots. Steph Curry hit shots the entire ride

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Speaker 1: to get to the title and the entire game. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he didn't have that dramatic moment like Ray. Ray did

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Speaker 1: against the Spurs, but come on, I was in a

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Speaker 1: good mood. Fritzie tells him, no, no, no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: never mind, never mind. One hour in the books. Two

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Speaker 1: more to go this Wednesday, Dan Patrick's show