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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you are

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Speaker 1: having a fantastic Friday evening and of course one thing

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Speaker 1: that is contributing to that is the Braves getting a

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Speaker 1: big victory against the Royals three to nothing, backed by

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Speaker 1: one of the best pitching performances for Max Reed we

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Speaker 1: have seen in quite a while. Awesome to be with

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Speaker 1: you once again part of the Foul Territory family of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory always with you covering the latest when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Braves, and I am so thrilled once again.

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Speaker 1: It's been a been a while since I've been able

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Speaker 1: to talk with you, but it's always my pot podcast

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Speaker 1: partner Steven Tobert Steven, if I could describe tonight and

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Speaker 1: the best way possible that I can think of, Max

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Speaker 1: Freed made the most. He did his best to make

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Speaker 1: what was potentially his last start at Truist Park as

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Speaker 1: a Brave as memorable as possible. But even more importantly

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Speaker 1: to me, he did everything that he could to ensure

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Speaker 1: this was not his last start as a break and

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Speaker 1: it was awesome to see. Good to talk with you again, sir.

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Speaker 2: What's sean? Yeah, man, it's been a minute. It's being you.

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Speaker 2: What did one of these? What a game? What a

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Speaker 2: fun game that was tonight one hour and fifty nine minutes.

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Speaker 2: It was a rapid, nice, tidy little game. Of course,

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Speaker 2: that's you know, expected one. The other team only has

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Speaker 2: three hits and no runs and yeahs the Max Freed game.

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Speaker 2: Quite honestly, I mean that's games like this is where

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Speaker 2: he got the nickname, you know, Maximum, because he was

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Speaker 2: unbelievable tonight. It reminded me a lot of Game six

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Speaker 2: of the World Series a few years ago against Houston,

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Speaker 2: where he was just not gonna lose, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the Brads gave him just enough offense where he could

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Speaker 2: stay in the game and feel comfortable and made it

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Speaker 2: all the way to the you know, to the ninth inning,

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Speaker 2: two outs in the ninth before before Glaciers had to

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Speaker 2: come in. So huge game. You know, we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about it, of course, but yeah, it's always going

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Speaker 2: to do these with.

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Speaker 1: You, man, absolutely. And the thing that stands out to

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Speaker 1: me about this game when it comes to Max Steven

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Speaker 1: is that it was a reminder of this in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: You know, Max, over the past couple of years, he's

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Speaker 1: dealt with some injuries, some arm injuries, never really been

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Speaker 1: too in danger of b I know he was out

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Speaker 1: for a few months last year, but never really you know,

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Speaker 1: been a concern that it was something that would keep

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Speaker 1: him out, like you know, Tommy John or things like that.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been a couple of skaters, but he's

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Speaker 1: come from those injuries and at times he struggled. You know,

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Speaker 1: he seems like you here are the past a month

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Speaker 1: like he was struggling with his control, struggling with this

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Speaker 1: command at times. But what stands out to me is

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Speaker 1: this is that you mentioned and it's going to be

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Speaker 1: you know, if this truly is the last year that

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Speaker 1: Max fred is going to be in a Braves uniform,

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Speaker 1: I feel that one of the biggest things that's going

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Speaker 1: best pictures we've seen really in franchise history. I know

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Speaker 1: that is maybe a stretch for some, but it's true

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Speaker 1: in my opinion. But big game Max. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Maximum, he consistently shows up in big games,

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Speaker 1: and he did that tonight, and he was masterful tonight.

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Speaker 1: He was absolutely in control. You know, he wanted that

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Speaker 1: complete game shutout, but Max did everything that he needed

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Speaker 1: team that's in the that's likely going to be in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Big game. Max showed up tonight. He had

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Speaker 1: a big game, and it was at the time that

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Speaker 1: the Braves needed it most, and it just once again

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Speaker 1: goes to show that he truly is one of the

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Speaker 1: best pictures we've seen in recent Braves history, and also

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Speaker 1: one of the best pictures in the game in big moments, even.

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Speaker 2: If you set all of that stuff aside, like even

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Speaker 2: if you've set aside the fact that you know it's

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Speaker 2: it's very possible. And this was his last game in

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody has kind of admitted that, and even

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Speaker 2: and you know what the schedule the Braves have now

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Speaker 2: having to basically pitch at all tonight is massive. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's a massive, massive deal. And obviously, of course

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Speaker 2: winning the game is the most important thing, but you know,

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Speaker 2: now everybody is fully loaded for tomorrow. You know, the

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Speaker 2: just a huge game, a huge, huge game, for Max

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Speaker 2: tonight in the Braves, and you know, they're set up

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Speaker 2: really well going forward. We're going to talk about some

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the scoreboard watching aspect, but

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Speaker 2: just from Max's perspective and the Braves perspective, in the

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Speaker 1: But the other thing I want to hit on it,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get to ahead of ourselves. You know,

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Speaker 1: things are going about as good as they can for

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Speaker 1: the Braves tonight in terms of what they can control

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Speaker 1: and external factors. We'll discuss that in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, the other thing that stood out,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the highlights right now or I sell the

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Speaker 1: Glacias presenting Max Freed with the ball after you know,

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Speaker 1: the handshake. It was an awesome moment to see. But

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Speaker 1: this also goes to show what you saw tonight again

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Speaker 1: against a team that's likely going to be in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs in the Royals, is that if the Braves can

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get a hold of things, but

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Speaker 1: tonight was a reminder that this Braves team can make noise.

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Speaker 1: And if Max Reed is on his game like this

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Speaker 1: as we move forward, and he has every reason to

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Speaker 1: they really could make some noise. If Max Breed is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've seen this team, and we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this all year. We've seen this team have absolutely

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Speaker 2: And we saw in twenty twenty one, like that's how

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Speaker 2: postseason and won World Series. Max and you know, Charlie

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Speaker 2: said this before, nobody wants to see Chris Saale and

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Speaker 2: not want to face this team in a short series.

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Speaker 2: And we've said that over and over again. And that's

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Speaker 2: tonight was a huge step in that direction.

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Speaker 1: So, of course, let's talk a bit about that direction,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to lead to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: into potentially what's going we to be quite a potential

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Speaker 1: we're recording this, it's it's about nine to thirteen Central,

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Speaker 1: ten thirteen Eastern, you know, looking at the other things

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Speaker 1: Friday Night, Orioles and Twins. And here here is how

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Speaker 1: Each and every one of those results are exactly what

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Speaker 1: they want if that occurs, that occurs, then the Braves

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Speaker 1: the rest of the weekend. So, Steven, it's been a

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Speaker 1: can control what we can control. Very few times has

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Speaker 1: how he's going to be utilized even when he starts,

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Speaker 1: if he does for the rest of the regular season,

432
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Speaker 1: and even if he's used in the playoffs, the Braves

433
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Speaker 1: are going to have to be very, very aware of

434
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Speaker 1: just how far he can go into games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other point I'll make is this because

436
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Speaker 2: I was actually sitting down doing the kind of the

437
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Speaker 2: not the equation, but I was kind of doing the

438
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Speaker 2: matchups for the rest of the week. There's also a

439
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Speaker 2: scenario where the Braves get to Monday and they only

440
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Speaker 2: need to win one of the two games to clench

441
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Speaker 2: everything they need to clinch. And in that scenario, they

442
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 2: could actually hold Sale back for game two. And if

443
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Speaker 2: you can win game one, then you're back to like

444
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Speaker 2: your A plus scenario where you didn't have to use

445
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Speaker 2: Sale at all. You've clinched, and now he can pitch

446
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Speaker 2: game one of the wildcard round. And if you lose

447
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Speaker 2: game one, then you just pitch Sale. You know. It's

448
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 2: if you lose game one and game two is basically

449
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Speaker 2: a winner go home game that's basically a playoff game anyways,

450
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Speaker 2: and you have your best pitcher ready to go for

451
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Speaker 2: that game. So it isn't a very risky proposition they're

452
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Speaker 2: running here. I do get the logic of what they're doing,

453
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Speaker 2: because there is a path where they look brilliant at

454
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Speaker 2: the end of this and either Chris Sale is pitching

455
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Speaker 2: like the second game against the Mets, which is a

456
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Speaker 2: winner go home basically a playoff game anyways, or he's

457
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Speaker 2: pitching game one of the Wildcard Round because he didn't

458
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Speaker 2: have to pitch it all this weekend. But there's also

459
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Speaker 2: a scenario where it goes poorly, of course, and tonight

460
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Speaker 2: going the way it has gone, mitigates that a little bit.

461
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Speaker 2: But it was very interesting and it was a very

462
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Speaker 2: it was unexpected. Again, everybody who covers the team, who

463
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Speaker 2: follows it like we do, was very surprised by the announcement,

464
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Speaker 2: you know, with the injury stuff. He was set to

465
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Speaker 2: pitch on Wednesday, like he was gonna pitch Wednesday if

466
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Speaker 2: that game didn't get rained out, and after the game

467
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Speaker 2: he pitched him he threw a bullpen after that. So

468
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's one hundred percent healthy, but

469
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Speaker 2: I do think he's healthy enough where if he was

470
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Speaker 2: able to pitch Wednesday and he was healthy enough to

471
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Speaker 2: throw a bullpen after the game got rained out, I

472
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Speaker 2: do think he's healthy enough to pitch now. He might

473
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Speaker 2: not be one hundred percent, and a lot of guys

474
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Speaker 2: his age are not one hundred percent at this time

475
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Speaker 2: of year. I do think he's healthy enough to pitch.

476
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Speaker 2: But they are not concerned with him having too many

477
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Speaker 2: off days. You know, some guys they are concerned with that.

478
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Speaker 2: Max Reed is one of them. They don't want to

479
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Speaker 2: give him too many off days. Sale is not like that.

480
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Speaker 2: Sale apparently is fine with as many off days they

481
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Speaker 2: need to give him. So I do think they're trying

482
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Speaker 2: to play a gambit where they're holding him as long

483
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Speaker 2: as possible in the hopes that they don't have to

484
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Speaker 2: use him at all, and the Mets and the Diamondbacks

485
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Speaker 2: and the you know, the Twins and all the teams

486
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Speaker 2: that need to lose keep losing, the Braves keep winning,

487
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Speaker 2: and they can just hold them for Game one of

488
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Speaker 2: a wild card if it. You know, we'll see if

489
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Speaker 2: it actually works out that way. It's a it's a risk,

490
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Speaker 2: of course, But I do want to I do want

491
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Speaker 2: to make sure we talked about the upside because I

492
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Speaker 2: spend a lot of time on Twitter talking about the downside,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that was fair. I think I

494
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Speaker 2: needed to spend more time at least mentioning like the

495
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Speaker 2: logic behind the move, because there is upside to it.

496
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Speaker 2: It's just a kind of a classic high risk, high reward.

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Speaker 1: Well, then let's talk about the other factor in all

498
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Speaker 1: of this that could make the upside have a better

499
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Speaker 1: chance of continuing to come through, and that is the

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Speaker 1: Braves offense. On Friday Night, the Braves won three to nothing.

501
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Speaker 1: I get it. That is kind of how they've won

502
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Speaker 1: all season long. You look at it, you think, Okay,

503
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Speaker 1: the Braves offense went silent. You know, yeah, and in

504
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Speaker 1: terms of you know what they typically do, that that

505
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Speaker 1: is true. But I will say this, Matt Olson, he

506
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Speaker 1: did his job tonight to an extent in my opinion.

507
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Speaker 1: Marcelo Zuna, he did his job tonight in my opinion.

508
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Speaker 1: I bring that up to say this when it comes

509
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Speaker 1: to what is going to separate the Braves from their

510
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Speaker 1: competition this weekend against the Royals, potentially in that doubleheader,

511
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Speaker 1: against the Mets, and with ever who they may face

512
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Speaker 1: in the wild Card round in the playoffs if they

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Speaker 1: make it, I will go on record to say that

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Speaker 1: none of the teams that the Braves will face between

515
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Speaker 1: now and through the wild Card series, none of them

516
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Speaker 1: have an offensive duo that can reach the upside of

517
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Speaker 1: Matt Olsen and Marcello Zuna. Now it's on those two

518
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Speaker 1: to deliver on that promise, to validate that claim, and

519
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Speaker 1: I think they can. But it's really going to help

520
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Speaker 1: out if others can step up. And another area where

521
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Speaker 1: the Braves can be advantageous is when it comes to

522
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Speaker 1: their catching duo of Sean Murphy and Travis Starna. And

523
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Speaker 1: we know that Travis Darna has delivered in big moments

524
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Speaker 1: all see and long. But Steven, it was Sean Murphy

525
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Speaker 1: who stepped up on Friday night. I'm not all the

526
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Speaker 1: sudden competent that we're gonna get the Sean Murphy of

527
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Speaker 1: the first half of twenty twenty three, but what I

528
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Speaker 1: will say is this is that it does reveal one

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Speaker 1: thing about this Brave's offense that could be a very

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Speaker 1: very good development. If at least one person can step

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Speaker 1: up each night to support Matt Ailson, Marcelo Zuna, hopefully

532
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Speaker 1: Michael Harris the second. If at least one other person

533
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Speaker 1: can step up to have a big game, this team

534
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Speaker 1: can win frequently. And it was at least good to

535
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Speaker 1: see Sean Murphy showing power. It was the difference on

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Speaker 1: Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And before I get to Sean Murphy real quick,

538
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Speaker 2: just Orls are up seven to nothing on the Twins

539
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Speaker 2: in the eighth, so they are demolishing the Twin. Twins

540
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Speaker 2: are about to be eliminated, which means is about to clinch,

541
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Speaker 2: and Burrows are up seven too. I guess it's the Mets,

542
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Speaker 2: so just an update, but yeah, listen, I'm a pretty

543
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Speaker 2: well known Sean Murphy defender. I love Seann Murph. He's

544
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Speaker 2: had a bad season. Like there's no defending the season

545
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Speaker 2: he's had. He's been, you know, really bad. In September.

546
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Speaker 2: I do think the oblique muscle at the beginning of

547
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: the year, he was out for two months. I just

548
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: don't think he ever caught back up. You know, when

549
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: you missed the first two months and come back. Everybody

550
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: you're playing has been playing for two months and has

551
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Speaker 2: gotten kind of all the early season rust knocked off,

552
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Speaker 2: and so you're playing against guys who are much more

553
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Speaker 2: like in season ready than you are. And I think

554
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Speaker 2: he's just been playing catch up the whole year. His

555
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: swing has been a mess all year. I think he's

556
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Speaker 2: been fighting it. It doesn't help that, you know, he's

557
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: a split time player, like he plays fifty to sixty

558
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: percent of the time because the Braves do that with catchers.

559
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: That doesn't help when you're trying to catch up after

560
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: you missed the first two months. But he's had a

561
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Speaker 2: bad season. But I love Sean Murphy. And of course,

562
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Speaker 2: you know, he hit the big homer tonight in classic

563
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Speaker 2: kind of twenty twenty four Sean Murphy fashion. He then

564
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Speaker 2: came up with you know, two runners on second and

565
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: third with one out, just an absolutely abysmal at Patton

566
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: had a horrible strikeout, you know, and those two bats

567
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: happened back to back, which just a perfect encapsulation of

568
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Speaker 2: Sean Murphy's season this year. But I'll always believe in

569
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Speaker 2: Sean Murphy. I know William Catrez has had an awesome

570
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Speaker 2: year with Milwaukee, and that has not helped in terms

571
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Speaker 2: of people, you know, having very very strong and negative

572
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Speaker 2: feelings towards Murph. And I understand, and I'm not going

573
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Speaker 2: to try to defend it that trade does not look

574
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Speaker 2: great this year. I do think people have rapidly, and

575
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Speaker 2: I mean rapidly, forgotten how good Sean Murphy has been

576
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Speaker 2: his entire career. Like the lowest WRC plus he's ever

577
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: run in any season is still in triple digits. Like,

578
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Speaker 2: he is a very very good hitter and has been

579
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Speaker 2: his whole career. He's a very good catcher. He's not

580
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Speaker 2: having a good year. I'm not going to defend that,

581
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Speaker 2: but like, I don't think we need to be using

582
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Speaker 2: one year, you know, to erase an entire guy's body

583
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Speaker 2: of work for his career. But yeah, if he wants

584
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Speaker 2: to get going these last you know, a few few

585
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: games this last week into the playoffs, I'm not going

586
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: to complain. His swing is still a little bit of

587
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: a mess. He's getting in two counts pretty much every

588
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: time he hits. Even the homer was on a no

589
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: two count, So that's a tough way to make a living.

590
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 2: You know, He's he's not seeing the ball well, he's

591
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: still swinging at bad pitches. So I'm not overly confident.

592
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: I think it's probably gonna take a full offseason of

593
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: staying healthy and being able to hit to get him

594
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Speaker 2: back to where he was last year. But it was

595
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Speaker 2: a huge home to night. I mean, obviously that was

596
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Speaker 2: the difference in the game, or not the difference, because

597
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Speaker 2: Marcell ended up scoring on that crazy play in the eighth,

598
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: which we should probably mention. But but yeah, I love Murphy.

599
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: I'll always love Murphy. I'm gonna defend Murphy to the

600
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Speaker 2: end because I think he's a great player. But he

601
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Speaker 2: has not had a good year this year. There's no

602
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: defending that. And if he wants to pick it up

603
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: the last week, then I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 1: Argue, absolutely, and it will certainly be great to see.

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Speaker 1: But I want to as we're wrapping up this edition

606
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Speaker 1: of the Hammer Territory podcast, I want to shine this

607
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Speaker 1: spotlight again on just how clutch this performance from mac

608
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Speaker 1: Spreed was. The dominance that he showed in and of

609
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Speaker 1: itself is great, but we also there's been a lot

610
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Speaker 1: of discussion about, you know, the two days that were

611
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Speaker 1: rained out, how that was handled. You know, how do

612
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Speaker 1: the Mets and the Braves come out looking, you know,

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Speaker 1: in terms of you know, they're into the season and

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Speaker 1: if one or both of them enter the playoffs, where

615
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Speaker 1: does that position them. Well, let's look at it from

616
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Speaker 1: this perspective. Since Tuesday, there has only been one Braves

617
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Speaker 1: pitcher who has thrown more than one pitch, and that

618
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Speaker 1: is Max Free and he made the most of all

619
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Speaker 1: of his pitches. So that means going into Saturday. Not

620
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Speaker 1: only do you have Ronaldo Lopez coming back to adding

621
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Speaker 1: into your pitching staff, which is a great development, you

622
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Speaker 1: have Grant Holmes who can be there too. If Ronaldo

623
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Speaker 1: can only go three or four innings, Grant home can

624
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Speaker 1: go multipointings. You have a fresh Joe human Is, you

625
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Speaker 1: have a fresh rest of your bullpen, including Ryce Celly Glacy.

626
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Speaker 1: You go into Sunday, every one of your starters besides

627
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Speaker 1: Breed and Lopez are more than ready to go. Once again.

628
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: The way that this is set up for the Braves

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Speaker 1: going into Saturday and beyond is really really good, with

630
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Speaker 1: arguably the best pitching staff in baseball as fresh as possible,

631
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Speaker 1: and we can talk about the offense. That the offense

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Speaker 1: can do what it does, that's great, but I think

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Speaker 1: that it really stands out that is spread the level

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Speaker 1: of freshness that this pitching staff is, and that's something

635
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: that the Braves can dial into, especially if the Royals

636
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: have nothing to play for. And Stephen, that makes me

637
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Speaker 1: very confident. That makes me confident going into this game

638
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. I know we're taking it one game at

639
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: a time, but yes, while the offense, if it can

640
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: live up to its potential really can put the Braves

641
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: in a good position. The freshness of this pitching staff,

642
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: to me, stands out as a big advantage as well,

643
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Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll be able to dial into that and

644
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Speaker 1: keep this pitching staff fresh as we go day by

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Speaker 1: day and hopefully win by win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they are set up. I mean getting

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Speaker 2: Ronaldo back, It's gonna be very interesting what he looks

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Speaker 2: like tomorrow. If he's just back to normal and they

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Speaker 2: have Sale Max who is as good as he's been

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Speaker 2: all year tonight, Ronaldo Schwalenbach, who's been all someome lately.

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Speaker 2: If they have all four of those guys going and

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Speaker 2: relatively rested, I mean, like if they pulled this off

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Speaker 2: where they don't have to pitch Sale until the wild

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Speaker 2: Card game, like we were just talking about. If like

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Speaker 2: if somehow they actually manage that, I mean, that will

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Speaker 2: be Sales first start in like fourteen days, like he

657
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: will have been as rested now at some point you

658
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: get to like he's at too much resk, whereas a

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Speaker 2: guy is just gonna be rusty as hell, and that's

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00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: always a risk, you know, Snith talked about in his

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00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: postgame He just said he doesn't worry about that with Chris.

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00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: That Chris is a guy that can have as many

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Speaker 2: off days as possible and it really not affect him,

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Speaker 2: so they're banking on that not being a problem. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and obviously Ronaldo's been out for fifteen days

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Speaker 2: and because he's been on the il, so yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean in the bullpen, like you said, you know, with

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Speaker 2: the all the off days, and Max's doing damn near

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Speaker 2: a complete game tonight, everybody's gonna be well rested. Now

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Speaker 2: we'll have to see how we get through this doubleheader

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Speaker 2: on Monday, if if those games have to be played.

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Speaker 2: If those games, you know, there is a scenario where

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Speaker 2: the games have to be played, but they don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: have to be cared about that much, so you know,

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Speaker 2: whether they're played, I don't think is actually the important thing.

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Speaker 2: It's whether both games are necessary for the Braves, because

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Speaker 2: that determines how exactly they play them. And there's there's

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Speaker 2: multiple ways to play games that you don't really care

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00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: about where you're not actually using anybody important. So that's

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00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see. But obviously it's gonna come

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Speaker 2: down how you know, the Braves play the rest of

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Speaker 2: the weekend, how the Mets. You know, the Mets are

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00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: losing seven to two right now, so it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: very see how the rest of these teams play, and

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Speaker 2: it's gonna it's literally gonna change kind of hour by

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00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: hours we watch all these games. You know, what the

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00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: Braves need, what other teams need. So far tonight it

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00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: has gone as well as it could have gone. But

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Speaker 2: you know, the games aren't over tonight either, so we

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Speaker 2: have to wait and see you But yeah, this is

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00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of if you look at the

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Speaker 2: four days Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, at this point in

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: the night, Friday has gone about as well as it

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00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: could have gone for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: And the other great thing about Friday night, with it

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Speaker 1: going as well as it has for the Braves, both

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00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: in terms of what they can and cannot control, it

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00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: puts more. It puts them in a better position to

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Speaker 1: control their own destiny. And what that means is just win.

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Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do is just win. And I

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00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: know that we've seen the Braves time and time again

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Speaker 1: have these letdowns this season when it comes to winning,

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Speaker 1: but we've also seen them bounce back. I think this

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00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: team realizes that they have zero room for error, but

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00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: also if they can make the most of that, if

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Speaker 1: they can win, they have a formula that can work

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Speaker 1: in the postseason. They just need a chance, and I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to be motivated to see what can happen. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything else for us as we wrap

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Speaker 1: up this edition of the Hammer Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm going to be very see what changes Kansas

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Speaker 2: City makes to their rotation tomorrow, because again, the the

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00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: Orioles are crushing the Twins. The Twins are about to

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Speaker 2: be eliminated, so Casey is almost certainly not gonna throw

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Speaker 2: their best two starters the next two days, So I'm

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Speaker 2: curious to see. You know, Bobby Witt probably isn't gonna

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Speaker 2: play at least one of these two games. Salvador Perez

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00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: probably isn't gonna play. You know, sometimes that can be

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Speaker 2: a scary thing because they put in a bunch of

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00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: backups and a picture you've never heard of, and you

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Speaker 2: end up getting shut out for six innings and losing

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Speaker 2: two to one. And I know Brads fans have a

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Speaker 2: particular fear of that because of how some of the

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Speaker 2: games have gone this year against bad teams, but I

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Speaker 2: would much go to Face, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 2: you know, relatively bad pitchers than Face, the two best

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Speaker 2: guys the Royals have. So I'm gonna be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see once this Baltimore Twins game goes final, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'll kind of jump onto the Royals Twitter and see

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Speaker 2: exactly what they're gonna do. But yeah, really good start

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Speaker 2: tonight for the weekend for the Braves. Obviously, we'll track

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Speaker 2: the rest of the games. We are gonna be doing

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Speaker 2: a show, damn near every night during the stretch. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if we'll have one Tomorrow night. Tomorrow night

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Speaker 2: it might be the only night we don't do a show,

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Speaker 2: but we might still do a show if something crazy happens.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, make sure you're subscribe tuned in because this

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Speaker 2: is the time of the year obviously where it gets

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Speaker 2: crazy and we will have it all covered.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna go on the record and say this,

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about crazy, I'm gonna get crazy. This

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Speaker 1: was not the last start that Max Freed makes it

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Speaker 1: truest park in a Braves uniform. I am highly confident

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Speaker 1: that's the case. We'll go with it, and that's how

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Speaker 1: we'll end this edition of the Hammer Territory Podcast. For

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Speaker 1: Steven Tolbert, you can find him at b Underscore Outliars

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, slash x. My name is Sean coming at

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Speaker 1: stats as the See on Twitter, slash x. Hammer Territory

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Speaker 1: across all forms of social media, part of the Foul

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Speaker 1: Territory family of podcast. Until next time, a big brave victory,

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Speaker 1: Go Braves. We'll talk to you again on the Hammer

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