1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at pacificofice dot com. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Into the uptop for the touchdown, Hollywood Brown Spectacular, Connor 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: to the five and end of the ends up for 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: the touchdown. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Pacificoffice dot com. Problem solved touchdown Tyler Murray. 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: That defender is in multiple pieces. 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: All that was nasty right there? 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Rights the latest news and notes from the insiders who 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: cover the teams. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is balling, breaking on breaking 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: on swim to the ground by Budda Baker Like a torpedo. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scarting nobody. 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvc. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: I used to be fond of saying that the easiest 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: way to a million dollars was off the backs of 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: pet owners. No expense is ever spared for Fido, right, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, people lose their mind spending on 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: their pet. But if we want to make some serious cash, 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: like a billion, it's weight loss. And I'm thinking the 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: new rage across the country when it comes to weight loss, 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: just take a couple of joint practices and the heating 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: next of one fourteen and then call the doctor in 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: the morning. Because Zach Pascal had it waight, I wrote 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: it down. He estimated he lost twelve pounds by the 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: end of that joint practice. 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: It was guestimating, though Paul guestimating. It was gestimating. 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: Now he's gonna put that right back on. Like Josh 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: Wood said, I've lost eight or nine pounds, which means 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna drink eight or nine waters and or gatorades 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: and then by the time I'm done, oh, put the 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: weight back on. But you know, maybe there's something there. 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: I should give it a shot. 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: It was. 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: It was pretty pretty warm at a Wednesday's joint practice. 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't naming names, Darren. I wasn't looking at you 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: when I was talking about weight loss. 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: We all know where that that was going. You weren't looking. 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 5: Wow, Well he knows better than that. 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: Ron Wolfley's in the room. 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: That's true. 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Thankfully. He doesn't have a micro right now. 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: So he's eating a salad, so we name drop. 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: Him as he's eating a salad. So maybe that might 46 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: have been the inspiration. There you go here on Cardinals Underground, 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. Yes, we are 48 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: fresh off a joint practice. Number one. Cardinals and Vikings. 49 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: Enjoy your shower, pol I say, yeah, you're welcome both 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,279 Speaker 2: of you for showering before this, because in the power. 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: Pole showers, I think the last time I needed to 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: shower that bad was probably high school two a day 53 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: football practices. That was. I mean, it just shows you 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: what any elite athlete is all about. YEA, when I 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: was almost heat exhausted just standing there working a cell 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: phone and these guys are playing full speed, full contact football. 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: You were working very hard though capturing video on that 58 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: cell phone, poll. 59 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 5: Would tell yourself short, I wish. 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: I had more highlights from the offense though. Yeah, we'll 61 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: get into that in a little bit, a little bit, 62 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit. I did enjoy watching 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 3: the cameras, speaking to the cameras. There's expert camera work 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: which you'll get on Cardinal's flight plan. There's really poor 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 3: camera work which you'll get off my Twitter account and 66 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: my cell phone. See I'm making I make I make 67 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: everyone else appreciate the Emmy Award winning effort. It is 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: Cardinal's flight plan. I wasn't bad. 69 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't going to bring up the video of Buddha 70 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: Baker breaking up the play where you don't really see 71 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: him breaking up the play. But but you know, as 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 4: long as you're bringing. 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: The sun is on my screen and I can't even 74 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: see what I'm shooting. I'm just guestimating it's brutal. And 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: then I'm left with do I tweet this out and 76 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: incurl the wrath of Darren Urban or do I just 77 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: sit on it. It's a tough deal there. 78 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: I mean, I will say this, the benefit of Twitter 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: when you're when you're sitting there and you're watching a 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: joint practice, you can't possibly see everything that's going on 81 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: at once clearly because there's your your one team's offense 82 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: is going against the other team's defense, and there's two 83 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: different fields. And and then today with Larry Fitzgerald's out there, 84 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: so I ended up spending some time talking to him, 85 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: so you're not seeing everything. So the benefit of Twitter, 86 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: I will say, was I got to see a couple 87 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: of plays that I hadn't seen that were you either 88 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: tweeted out by a media member or even somebody a 89 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: fan from you know who was watching that had come 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: out to watch the Viking, so that was kind of nice. 91 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: And there were a handful of plays that could catch 92 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: your eye. But I think going back to what you're saying, Paul, 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: and it was kind of underscored by what the players 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: said afterwards, where I think ultimately they wish today the 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: initial practice, the ones they practice that we're recording after, 96 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: would have gone a little bit better. But that's why 97 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 4: you're doing these things is to get better. And the 98 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: one thing I did get out of this, and this 99 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: kind of goes back to the heat and the humanity 100 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 4: and doing all this. If they have today's practice and 101 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: then they do that again Thursday, I'm I'm really curious 102 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: to know who actually plays Saturday, because I don't know 103 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: how much they're gonna want to run out. I mean, 104 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: even last week Michael Wilson was saying, these are this 105 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: is gonna be the two the only two times they've 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: done high days back to back, and they're going to 107 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: do that again tomorrow and the heat's not going to 108 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: be that much better. Do you do you wind back 109 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: some of these guys, some of these veterans in the game, Well. 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: The plan might already be before all this, such that 111 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: a lot of those veteran starters who played more even 112 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: in the second preseason game compared to the first, might 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: the plan all along might have been they're not going 114 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: to touch the field for the final game. 115 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: Well quote after the KC game, I asked Josh Woods 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: postgame radio, what do you expect it with the joint practices? 117 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: What do you tell some of the rookies who haven't 118 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: been through it? He said, well, there's going to be 119 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: a game filed by another game filed by the game, 120 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: meaning game like intensity for each of the joint practices, 121 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: and then whoever's playing obviously four quarters against the Vikings 122 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: on Saturday. To your point, Darren, are you saying that 123 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: if the caliber play doesn't pick up, the guys are 124 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: more apt to play? 125 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is is with the 126 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: I'm saying with the intensity of both days, and you 127 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: combine it with the whether you're playing in You know, Danny, 128 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: maybe right it already made have been set in stone. 129 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: But if it wasn't, you know, maybe that changes some 130 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: things in terms of who you might want to put 131 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: out there. Although again you're trying to figure out who 132 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: your roster is gonna be. This team has to be 133 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: cut down on the day we're gonna record next underground 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: next Tuesday. So you know, that's one of those things 135 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 4: where you got to see the guys, you got to 136 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: see in order to make those decisions. And as Jonathan 137 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: Gannon keeps saying, that's an ongoing process. 138 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: I'll give you two proclamations that came to the conclusion 139 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: of after today's practice. You ready for this talking about 140 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: the roster. I'm not even looking at you out, Darren. Okay, 141 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna proceed, Number one, yelled to Froholt absolutely 142 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: nailed down the starting center job today by not being 143 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: here and how discombobulated the Cardinals old line looked at times. 144 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: It's sort of like when Steve Nash won the first 145 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: of his two MVPs for the Suns. He really clinched 146 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: the MVP Awards streak when he didn't show up when 147 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: he was injured for six games and they looked like 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: they were a twenty win team. Yes, so same deal 149 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: with the elder Frohold. I don't know if that was 150 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: what was wrong, but there were a lot of false starts. 151 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: There were a lot of unaccounted for rushers coming up 152 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: through the interior of the old line. So, and the 153 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: other thing I'll throw out there, col McCoy hasn't done 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: anything to nail down the job between the Kansas City 155 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: preseason game and the first joint practice. I'm not saying 156 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: that the fifth round rookie is going to start week one. 157 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that col McCoy hasn't slammed the door shut. 158 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: Danny, Danny, He's gonna say, I'm I'm gonna tout for 159 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: tune it's coming. That's that's gonna be his name? 160 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: Is that the same, No, that the headline is going 161 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: to be Will JG name that tune? It's starter week one. 162 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: That's where we're trying. 163 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: I apologize for bringing this up. 164 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: Sorry, I was trying to get there eventually, but you know, 165 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: Darren of course had. 166 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 5: To cut to the chase. 167 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: You know, he's a patient that way. 168 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: No, it's it's interesting you bring up those points because 169 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: that was just kind of what sood out to me 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: as well when looking at the offense and Wednesday's practice, 171 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: and we should say, yell to for a whole wasn't 172 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: at practice Wednesday because he and both left tackle DJ 173 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: Humphries welcomed children into the world, which. 174 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: Is very right. 175 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if this is the first child 176 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: for for a hole, but this is I believe number 177 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: three for the Humphries family, but very exciting. So that's 178 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: why they weren't there again and said that they will 179 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: join the team later in the week. But with Colt McCoy, 180 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: I agree, it's very interesting that it doesn't seem like 181 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: he's doing anything to build that case, maybe more so 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: than he did when training camp started. It just felt 183 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: like some of the decisions were questionable at practice, or 184 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: they weren't good throws, the receivers were dropping passes. It 185 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: just the offense just it looked slow. And I don't 186 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: know if that is weather related of like it was 187 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: so incredibly humid and if they just felt more tired 188 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: practicing at that point outside. I don't really know, but 189 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: looking at the Vikings defense in comparison, the Cardinals offense. 190 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 5: Just looked flat. 191 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 4: I do also think that like Jonathan Gannon's had a 192 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: couple of chances to wipe that out, whether it's saying 193 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: Colt's gonna be my guy or Clayton tomb probably isn't 194 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: going to be that guy, and he's not saying those things. 195 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: So I know what you're I know how you're looking 196 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: because he's he's doing that with everybody. It's like the 197 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: question today once again from cam Cox, who are is 198 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: there anybody in particularly you're looking at in these practices 199 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: or is it all ninety which you probably didn't need 200 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: to ask. Oh, it's all ninety, Cam, it's all ninety. Well. 201 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: I did try and get to the root of the 202 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: whole quarterback thing in a roundabout wait before the practice, 203 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: I asked Jonathan Gannon, what would you like to see 204 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: out of your rookie quarterback? What boxes are left to check? 205 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: And his answer was continue to play fast. That was 206 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: the quote end quote. And then cam did fallow up, 207 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: is there any chance that the fifth round rookie could 208 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: start Week one? And you're right, Darren, because the head 209 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: coach said, we'll see. We're evaluating that every day. So look, 210 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: is he named anyone necessarily now an absolute starter? 211 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 4: And that's kind of where Danny's rolling of the eyes 212 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 4: came from, because he's not not that you're rolling in 213 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: the eye. You're rolling the eyes at me. Let me 214 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: make that clear. You're rolling the eyes at me, because 215 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: that's the deal is he doesn't he's not going to say. 216 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: In fact, what was it the other day when he 217 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: was like you'll know, you'll know when. 218 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 5: They're out there in the media, Kyler Murray. 219 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: And Garrett Williams like, oh, you'll know when they're out there. Okay. 220 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: You know what though, I I do, even though clearly 221 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 2: rolling my eyes, I right like that that is kind 222 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: of expected. I feel like at this point when we're 223 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: not getting official injury reports and you have so many players, 224 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: but truly, I do think that there is an actual 225 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: quarterback battle happening. 226 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 5: Like I, I. 227 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: Really feel that there's a good chance this coaching staff 228 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: where we stand right now, in this very moment, doesn't 229 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: know who they're starting quarterback for Week one, and Washington 230 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: is going to be I'm sure they're leaning towards one way, 231 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: and you have pros and cons of both Colt McCoy 232 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: or Clayton Tune. So it'll be interesting to see how 233 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: the philosophies mesh up. You know, this isn't just a 234 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon decision, right, You have to obviously incorporate your pensing, 235 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: your offensive coordinator and talk to your quarterbacks coach and 236 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: Iszi wolferg that's there's gonna be a lot of people 237 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: who have a hand in that decision. But because McCoy 238 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: hasn't done anything to truly show that he is so 239 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: much further ahead than Clayton Tune. That's not to say 240 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: Claytonton is on McCoy's level, right, McCoy is what fourteen 241 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: fifteen years of experience. I just think that we saw 242 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: in the second preseason game, the athleticism with Tune's footwork 243 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: and being able to run and the power in his arm. 244 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: Given there's still things that need to be worked on 245 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: with some of those high passes in the footwork that 246 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: too mentioned postgame, But I wouldn't be surprised if Jonathan 247 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: Gannon is being truthfully honest to say that they don't 248 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: know who the starter is week one at this point. 249 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 3: Well, look, there's what we can see and then there's 250 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: what Cole McCoy just brings inherently, right, So what we 251 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: can see is absolutely the athleticism. Asked Jonathan Gannon after 252 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: the Kansas City game, Hey, the O line only gave 253 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: a one sack and that was the very end where 254 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: David Bile held onto the ball forever. He said, yeah, 255 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: but the rookie also had some great escapability, made the 256 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: old line look good and sort of save they're bacon 257 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: a few times. But then there's what we can't see 258 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 3: in these sort of settings is that that is all 259 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: the experience that Cole McCoy has when Ron Rivera's dialing 260 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: something up week one and you're going against Montese Sweat 261 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: and Deron Payne and Jonathan Allen and Chase Young and 262 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: so you're seeing all these looks that you can't possibly 263 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: simulate in the preseason or a rookie. So with that 264 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: in mind, you know that's going to factor big obviously 265 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: into the decision. 266 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: Oh, on top of it, let's say, y' all, the 267 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: fro Holtz, you're starting center, and he's got a number 268 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: of years in this league, well, obviously a lot more 269 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: than rookie John Gaines, but yell, the frot Hold has 270 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: only started four games at center. So are you good 271 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: with a center with four games of experience? With a 272 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: rookie quarterback? I mean, that's again, all this stuff has 273 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 4: got to go into the blender, as it will will 274 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: and figure out how that that all susses out and 275 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 4: and what makes the most sense, and and the question 276 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: then becomes, are you are you going to have a 277 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: good enough sense of that come Sunday morning after the 278 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: Vikings game, because there are no more games, and there's 279 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: only I mean, next week's practices. I don't even know 280 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: how many practices are going to be. I think they 281 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: automatically get all four days of the week of the 282 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: well three days of the labor day week, and I 283 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: think they're off Friday. So like you've only got after 284 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: this game, so much left of being able to make 285 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: their choices. I would think that by dime you get 286 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: to Saturday's game, you're gonna have to know a pretty 287 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: good of who your team is gonna be. 288 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: And then you're waiting to see the cuts around the league. 289 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a whole different ball game as well. 290 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,239 Speaker 2: That's gonna play a role in all these decisions. 291 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: Here's what you do. You give Clayton tune three quarters 292 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: of the final preseason game, and then you follow our 293 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: next marketing mantra. You ready for this one, Danny, let 294 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: the rook cook. 295 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,359 Speaker 5: Darren be nice. 296 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: I'm serious. 297 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: You go into preseason game number three years, let the 298 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: rook Cook and then then you see where it stands 299 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: after that. 300 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: First of all, why don't you tweet that? And I'll 301 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: retweet you. 302 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: And I understand that not these things don't have to 303 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: necessarily be separate things. But on one hand, I agree 304 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: with Paul, like you gotta let Tune play as much 305 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: as you can. But also it feels so hard not 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: to sit here and say, Paul's just looking for something 307 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: to be able to talk about during this game, something 308 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: something to rhyme. Yes, that actually is something like I said. 309 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: And I said this three months ago. I have no 310 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: problem fanning the flames of a quarterback competition slash controversy 311 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: in August. 312 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: I have no problem doing that. You've been very consistent. 313 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I've been very vocal about that. It gets us 314 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: through training camp like you wouldn't believe now all of 315 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: a sudden, though it might have actually come to fruition. 316 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: It might be legit to some degree. Here's what we 317 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: don't know. Let's get back to the joint practice. How 318 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: did Clayton tune grade out today? Because Brian Flores is 319 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: known as a very aggressive defensive coordinator. What sort of 320 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: looks was he getting in that joint practice. How did 321 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: he react? Did he get the Cardinals into the right 322 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: checks and calls? Did he go to the right spot 323 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: with the football? We're going to find out in flight plan, 324 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: I think to a large degree, because Drew Petson was 325 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: miked up, Nick Rowlis was miked up to former Vikings 326 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: assistants who are now the Cardinals coordinators. So there they 327 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: were back coaching against the team that they came up with, 328 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: and both were calling their schemes. And I think we're 329 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: going to find out what sort of mastery did the 330 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback have? Could it be sufficient enough to make 331 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: a go of it in week one? Because what will 332 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: the coaches tell you? And as of the Kansas City game, 333 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: ninety percent of the playbook was in on either side 334 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: of the ball. That was our understanding. Yet you're not 335 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: going to use the entire playbook in a game. You're 336 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: just going to take out one chapter, one section, So 337 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: you don't have to be a master of all, just 338 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: a master of that week's game plan, which is just 339 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: a small percentage of what you've installed to that point. 340 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: Is Clayton Tune capable of pulling that off? 341 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: Thankfully, I don't have to make those decisions because I 342 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: don't think I don't think it's an easy decision for 343 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: all the reasons we've already been talking about. And I 344 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: understand the skepticism of people talking about putting a fifth 345 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: round rookie out there. I mean, heck you, you're there. 346 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: There is a very real possibility that the first overall 347 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: pick is going to struggle, uh and Bryce Young when 348 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: he's put out there. I mean, Kyler Murray struggled quite 349 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: a bit in his rookie year, and he was the 350 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 4: first overall pick. So now you're talking about somebody who's 351 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 4: a lot of teams passed on, and there were many 352 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: quarterbacks that were taken in front of him, and and 353 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: is that going to work out? And and again for me, 354 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: when we start talking about Kyler or not Kyler Murray, 355 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: Clayton Tune or Colt McCoy, it all comes back to 356 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 4: it's all under that super huge umbrella of the big 357 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 4: story of the season, which is when does Kyler Murray 358 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: come back? Because that maybe maybe that also plays a 359 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 4: part into it, is like if we think Kyler comes 360 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 4: back X, then it makes more sense to go with 361 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 4: Clayton Tune as opposed to Colt McCoy or vice versa. 362 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: Guess who's starting for Washington week one, a fifth round 363 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: quarterback two years ago with one career start under his 364 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: belt in Sam Howell. Just think about that for one minute. 365 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: That's all. I'm just throwing that out there. 366 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 4: There's all about the storylines for you, Paul, there's And. 367 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: To your point, Darren, you're right because I was half 368 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: joking with Drew stan about this on the broadcast. Bryce 369 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: Young has definitely looked like a rookie. C. J. Stroud, 370 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson. Those are three of the top four picks 371 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: in the draft. As Drew said, the only surefire rookie 372 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 3: quarterback we've seen so far in the NFL is late 373 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: fourth round out of Purdue Aidan O'Connell, who had that 374 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: great one half for the Raiders and everyone put him 375 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame already. Okay, so that was 376 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: sort of an eye roll, some good snark from true Stanton. 377 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: But look, there's another player I'm gonna get to a 378 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: little bit later who I think should play three quarters 379 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: of this game on Saturday. Probably won't. We'll throw it 380 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: out there, we'll get your reaction. But just in terms 381 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: of what you saw, out there today for the joint practice. 382 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: Any other takeaways? What else did you write down, Danny, 383 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: What else did you tweet about? What else stood out 384 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: to you? 385 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: Cardinals and Vikings, Michael Wilson still looked good in one 386 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: on one, able to create space and make some of 387 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: those contested catches. Offense wise, that that was probably one 388 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: of the brighter spots from looking it just kind of 389 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: felt like the Vikings defense was down their throat a lot, 390 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: but on defense looked like they were holding their own 391 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: a little more. Kee Trall Clark was going up against 392 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. 393 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: A lot some hits and there right. 394 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: There was a one on one that Clark ended up 395 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: getting the best of Jefferson, which is good. Buddha Baker 396 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: had a nice pass breakup in the red zone, so good. 397 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: Good to take away. I thought that the defense overall, 398 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: from what I was seeing moving from field to field, 399 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: looked better than. 400 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: The offense as a whole. 401 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, key troll Clark getting reps against Justin Jefferson, 402 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: one of the best in the biz, and then also 403 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: Jordan Addison, a first round receiver out of USC that's 404 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: invaluable to me right there, that's worth the price of 405 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: admission alone when you come out to a joint practice. 406 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: So I thought that was big. I thought, in turn, 407 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: those young dbs go against Kirk Cousins talking to Budda 408 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 3: Baker about that. You know, he was making checks and 409 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: calls and audibling during the team session based on where 410 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: Buddha was. Kirk Cousin was reacting accordingly, so that I 411 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 3: thought that was a big no question about it. As 412 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: far as Michael Wilson goes, the fact he hasn't played 413 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: a whole bunch in the preseason, I think tells us 414 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: everything we need to know. They already trust him. Yeah, 415 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: they've already seen enough. 416 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like that was kind of trending the 417 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 4: whole way. I mean, it's funny you bring up Key 418 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: Truck Clark because I also feel and I know Marco 419 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 4: Wilson is hurt right now, so automatically, Key Truck Clark 420 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: was probably gonna get more reps higher up the depth chart. 421 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 4: But you know, I saw a couple of two straight 422 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: eleven on eleven reps where Justin Jefferson easily got the 423 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: best of Key Truck Clark, and that's gonna happen. But 424 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: he did get him in that one one on one. 425 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have done the gritty 426 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 4: on Justin Jefferson after a pass breakup just because. 427 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: I did not see that. 428 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: Yeah did he really? Yeah? It's and it's the reason 429 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: I know because it's on video by many people. Cam 430 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: Cox had it, but there was also a guy in 431 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 4: the stands who recorded it, so that that was that 432 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: was interesting. But he also made another play later on, 433 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: and I forget who the receiver was, but I think 434 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: he's going to have a chance. I really believe he's 435 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: going to have a chance to start when all is 436 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 4: sudden done, or at least get significant playing time. I 437 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 4: thought Greg Dortsch made a couple of plays out there today, 438 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 4: which he continues to do. And how they sort out 439 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: the wide receiver Corps is going to be fascinating to 440 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: me in terms of who gets playing time and when. 441 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: Like you've already said, Michael Wilson, you know where does 442 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 4: that leave some other people? I mean, if you have 443 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson, and let's say you do decide to let 444 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: Greg Dortch do some things and we'll see what happens. 445 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 4: I mean, you still have Rondelle Moore, you still have 446 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown, you still have Zach Pascal, Like, where where 447 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: do the other people fit? Well? 448 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: How many receivers? Are you even keeping six tops? 449 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 4: Six tops? But I keep wandering to see you're keeping 450 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: four tight Ends' that's the that's the thing is is 451 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: if you're if you want to use tight ends, two 452 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: tight ends a lot, and you're gonna have tight ends 453 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: on the roster, then usually you're you're only with five receivers. 454 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: But I don't, I don't, I don't know. It'll it'll 455 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: depend on and who's that six guy? And how much 456 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: special teams? I mean, that's the one good thing about 457 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: Zach Pascal is he's really good on special teams. So 458 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 4: that's a guy who could give you stuff offensively, but 459 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: also you can trust on special teams in a number 460 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: of ways. And I think that's going to be very important. 461 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: And then in terms of their roster makeup. 462 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: What else did I miss? Man? Because you're right, you 463 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: can only see so much in these joint practices. I 464 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: thought I had a game plan. I was out between 465 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: the two main fields in the end zone. I was 466 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: standing right between so I was literally going from one team, 467 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: you know, drill to. 468 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: This is that why you ignored fits because you had 469 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: too much other stuff to do. 470 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: I got word Fits was over there, Larry can wait? Okay, 471 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: maybe tomorrow Larry come on out for the second joint practice. 472 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: All right, I'm sure. I'm sure. Larry was like, geez, 473 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: where's Paul. No, not exactly, you. 474 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: Don't know that. Just had some very kind things to 475 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 4: say as far as you know exactly. 476 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: What's his name again, my silent reporter for fourteen years? 477 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: What pencil neck? 478 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 4: What? 479 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: What's his name? That's that's what. That's the response I 480 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: got out of Larry. Can we hold him accountable for 481 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 3: the heat? By the way, what is going on? 482 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 4: He actually explanation about that. He actually apologized that it 483 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: was so warm now that we came up here. I 484 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: was gonna, if I'm him, I'm a little disappointed. I 485 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: come up here for the summer to get out of 486 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 4: the pace, and then you walk right and this is. 487 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 5: The hottest day of the year so far where we are. 488 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 5: Is that correct? 489 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: If it gets buz, I'm being we're getting a headshake 490 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: from Tim Delaney. 491 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: If it gets above ninety eight degrees, it doesn't look 492 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: happy about it. 493 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: If it gets above ninety eight degrees, it will be 494 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: the hottest day of the year, because I saw graphic 495 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: yesterday that the coldest day of the year was in 496 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: February one, thirteen and it was ninety eight the day 497 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: the Cardinals arrived. So that's a temperature swing eleven degrees. 498 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: It was one hundred and thirteen and the coldest day. 499 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 3: It's thirteen low. 500 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: No wonder. 501 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 3: Danny looked at me, that's a goldest day, as I 502 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: get ahead of myself on that one. So yeah, we're 503 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: all dying coldest. By the way, Josh Wood said, because 504 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: I wrote it down, I'll take the one ten in 505 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: Arizona any day over. 506 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty human. 507 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: There's dry heat and there's a swampy heat. 508 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: I just think it's fun to just kind of see 509 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: the different energy of a joint practice and not just 510 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: going up against you know, Cardinals and Cardinals. And it's 511 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: even more fun when players are walking out practice or 512 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: when you're having those seven on seven, those one on 513 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: one drills, getting to see your offense, your receivers go 514 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: up against their former teammates, and linebacker Jordan Hicks and 515 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: cornerback Buyer Murphy who are both now with the Vikings, 516 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: and I know that after practice, Murphy, I'd asked him, 517 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: you know who the Cardinals receivers were biggest trash talkers 518 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: to you? And he said rondel More got a little 519 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: chippy in a good way. And he said Hollywood Brown too. 520 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: Well, we know how much you trash talk with Rondale, 521 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: so that doesn't surprise me. 522 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: Still mixing it up, Well, but what about the coordinators 523 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: going again? For example, a Nick rollis going against Kevin O'Connell. Right, 524 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: that's intriguing to me as well, because they seemingly had 525 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: most everything at their disposal. Now were they tackling to 526 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 3: the ground. No, And he heard a million times all 527 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: the coaches screaming stay up, stay up, stay off the ground. 528 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: Didn't stop Isaiah Simmons from drilling a couple of guys 529 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: to the turf. He went out there with a bit 530 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: of an edge. Anybody else, show hands, anybody else happened 531 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: to notice Isaiah Simmons because he was making people take 532 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: notice that he was knocking bodies around the field. 533 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think just after the last performance against the Chiefs, 534 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: I would expect that that's what you'd want to see 535 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: is come out and make a. 536 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 5: Splash in practice. 537 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: I mean I'll give you this prediction for day two. 538 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: If there's going to be a fight, it'll be started 539 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: by either Isaiah Simmons finishing some of those hits and 540 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: tackles and not keeping guys up, or maybe a Marquise 541 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: Hayes who got out. What about like a willhard Will Hernandez. 542 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll see. 543 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: I mean, given the weather and everything, and I could 544 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 4: see nerves being frayed by the time we get to 545 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: middle of the practice on Thursday, we'll see you. 546 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 5: We'll get on our sideline too. 547 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I stand next to darn too 548 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: long in the heat. 549 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: The thing is that Vikings offense was so prolific a 550 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: year ago. It was their defense that was a complete liability. 551 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: That's why they fired the defensive coordinated brought in Brian Flores. 552 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: They were bottom three in both scoring defense and total 553 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: yards allowed. But that Vikings offense is really good, and 554 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: it got better in the offseason. So I think that 555 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: was a really good test for the Cardinals defense. Just 556 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 3: the scheme itself. You're in a brand new scheme. Buddha 557 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: talked about that. 558 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: I love the fact that they're going up against the 559 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: Vikings in a number of ways. I actually I think 560 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: it's really good. And a couple of guys mentioned this, 561 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: that they are doing it in this weather. You know, 562 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: I'll be curious to know, Like we've only got a 563 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: couple three weeks, and I haven't looked close enough, but 564 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: I mean, it's very possible you could have a hot 565 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: and human day in Washington that opening weekend. So I 566 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 4: like the fact that they're going through some of this stuff, 567 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: and I like the fact that there's two of these practices. 568 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: I know a couple of players were not thrilled with 569 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: maybe how some of this how it played out on 570 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: the first day, So I like the fact that they're 571 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 4: going to get a second chance to do this. 572 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think Josh Woods was talking to the team 573 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: as a former team captain of the Lions when he 574 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: told us afterwards, he told the media and I quote, 575 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: we let the weather dictate how we were attacking our work. Said, 576 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: we're going to see the film tonight and see how 577 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 3: our effort can be better maximized was his quote. And 578 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: you know how guys talk through the media, I think 579 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: that was Josh Woods honestly sending a message to the 580 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: rest of his teammate, especially the younger guys saying, you 581 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: know what, it can be better. Let's see if you 582 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: can make a better day too, because the heat is 583 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: going to be back. 584 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: Buddha said that the effort was if he he didn't 585 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 4: use if he he made a sound which I can't 586 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 4: really repeat here. 587 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 3: But he did use the F word fatigue. 588 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah he did, he did. I mean again, you're coming here. 589 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: It's a long plane flight. You get into this the weather. 590 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that doesn't excuse it, but it's you'd rather 591 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: do it in a practice than a game, I suppose. 592 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: And to your point, Aarin, you did three full practices 593 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: in the Arizona heat, follow by two joint practices, and 594 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: the heat and humidity record heat and humidity for Minnesota. 595 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: You are regular season ready when it comes to the 596 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: conditions for a team that primarily in recent past has 597 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: trained only at State Farm Stadium and the climate control. 598 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: This team is going to be ready for Washington and 599 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: then hopefully I have the mental fortitude for whether or 600 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: else you're gonna get it in terms of weather, because 601 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: guess what, you have three potential cold weather games in 602 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: December and January. 603 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: Or lower right, Why are you saying potential funny how. 604 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: Because he's already worried about it. 605 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm hoping for the best, Danny. Okay, I'm hoping for as. 606 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 5: A reporter Philly and Chicago and Pittsburgh. 607 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: I lived two years in Chicago. There could be a 608 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: rogue sixty degree day in December, believe. 609 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: Me, an happen, or or or it could be really 610 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 4: cold and windy and rainy like the last time we 611 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: were there. 612 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: Yes, it's good. Thank you, Darren, Thank you thereby illustrating 613 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: glass half full, glass half empty right over there. 614 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: Look, I I've never dan, I've never said I was 615 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: anything but glass half. 616 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: There's there's another word that's been used recently. Uncomfortable. 617 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. I noticed that. 618 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: Keanty Ingram brought that up when asked about Okay, where 619 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: do you think you stand as RB two after I 620 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: had a heck of a performance against Kansas City and 621 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: he paused, he said, uncomfortable. Guys don't know. Zach Pascal said, 622 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: you know what, that's a good thing, guys being uncomfortable, 623 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: Guys coming in and realizing, you know what, you can 624 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: count the made men, the absolutes on this roster on 625 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: two hands. Beyond that, where exactly do I fit do 626 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 3: the new decision makers consider me the future, which in 627 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: some cases could be good if it's between you and 628 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 3: a veteran and you're the young guy and you have 629 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: upside guess what I think the future is now? Your 630 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: time to play will be now. But if you're a 631 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: bit of an older guy who can be counted on 632 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: for that experience, and you had relied upon the shall 633 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: we say, the equity and the relationship with the previous 634 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: coaching staff that no longer. 635 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: Exists, sounds like it fits pretty well with what we 636 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: hear about the culture that John Dean Gannon is really 637 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: trying to implement a team over me right, not wanting 638 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: to have those egos of making people earn their starting roles, 639 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: even if you were here with the previous coaching staff, 640 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: even if you were a starter with the previous coaching staff, 641 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: making making these players earn their spot on this roster, 642 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: earn a starting role. I think Antonio Hamilton is a 643 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: great example of that. This time last year, before he 644 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: had the burn incident with his feet that kept him 645 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: out a couple of games. I mean in training camp 646 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: he was he was one of your starting quarterbacks, and 647 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: now he's getting third team reps at the highest and 648 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: that's just now with the different players you have, with 649 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: the different coaches and philosophy and what they. 650 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 5: Want to see. 651 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense to me that there is 652 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: such true competition that the players would feel uncomfortable, because 653 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: I think that's what this coaching staff really wants. I 654 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: don't think they want anybody feeling comfortable right now. 655 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: I keep thinking to myself, if one of us tweeted 656 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 4: out that quote, would not that JG is on Twitter 657 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 4: or x or whatever we're calling it these days, but 658 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: if he saw something like that, he'd want to print 659 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 4: out and put on his wall. If he has players 660 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 4: talking about how uncomfortable it is right now, I don't 661 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: think as a coach, you would want anything. I think 662 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 4: that's it's as good as it gets right there, right at. 663 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: Least leading up to the final fifty three. 664 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 665 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: Right. 666 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: Even Zach Pascal when you brought it up today, he said, 667 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 4: we're gonna be uncomfortable all season, and we're gonna have 668 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 4: uncomfortable situations. And look, there's a very real possibility that 669 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: there are gonna be a lot of uncomfortable situations for 670 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 4: this team this year. Is they go through some growing 671 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: pains and they try and reset the roster. So guys 672 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: better be ready for that and better be able to 673 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 4: embrace all that because I think I don't think it's 674 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 4: been announced, but I think that is a foundational tenant 675 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 4: of what Mani asin Fort and JG. Jonathan Ganna want 676 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: to do around here. 677 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: Well, if you're the back not around. 678 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 4: Here, I guess we're in Minnesota right now. 679 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 3: But the back end of the fifty three. There's no 680 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: question they're going to turn the back end of this 681 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: roster the entire length of this season. They're gonna have 682 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: weekly tryouts with guys who released from other teams, and 683 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: if there's any prospect of bringing in someone who's more 684 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: talented than someone else at the back end of the 685 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: depth chart, yeah, I think there will be blood. 686 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: I would argue, though, the difference is because I do 687 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: feel like the Cardinals have done that over the past 688 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: few years, to varying degrees depending on the year. But 689 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 4: I feel like that bar when you say the back end, 690 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: I think that bar is a lot higher on the roster, 691 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: a lot. There's a lot more numbers that include that. 692 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 4: I mean, this team is going to have the third 693 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 4: waiver claim through the fourth game of the regular season, 694 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: which means anybody getting cut not only in final cuts, 695 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: but period for those that first month might be out 696 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: there that stuff could happen. And beyond all that, think 697 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: how many guys on this team that potentially could make 698 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: this team that are gonna be free agents after the 699 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: season anyways. So you might buy yourself time right now, 700 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 4: but you're still going to have to be in a 701 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 4: place where you've really convinced them by the end of 702 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: the season that it's worth going forward because of all 703 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: the draft picks that they've compiled and the clearly the 704 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: free agents that eventually they're gonna want to sign in 705 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: certain areas, Like, you might just be buying yourself a 706 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 4: year at this point because of where this team might 707 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 4: be going. 708 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: I mean, we debate who's the third running back. If 709 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 3: it's James counter cant Ingram in that order, that third 710 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: running back might come via waiver claim by the end 711 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: of the month to another team. 712 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: But you're already locking in Ingram. 713 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 3: I'm locking in Ingram based on what I saw. No question, 714 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 3: had they seen a lot in camp leading up to 715 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 3: that game. No, So I think he's a bit of 716 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 3: an unknown to a lot of the coaches, but the 717 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: holdover coaches saw enough I think last year, combined with 718 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: what you saw in that game, that's a classic case 719 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: of you come out and look, you you needed to 720 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: take advantage of that moment. You can work the entire offseason. Yeah, 721 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 3: the whole two weeks, first two weeks of camp count 722 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: Ingram was nicked up whatever it was, and then that 723 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: was his chance. If he hadn't excelled in in that moment, 724 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, his future would probably be elsewhere. But 725 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: he did. He sees that moment in that touchdown run, 726 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: third and goal from the five, that was impressive. Broke 727 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: multiple tackles, he broke arm tackles all night, and we've 728 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 3: seen him catch the ball very well. He's big enough 729 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 3: to be reliable in pass protection. So right now I 730 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: think he's RB two. As for the third running back, 731 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: there's a distinct possibility that's coming from another team. 732 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 5: I don't think that's wrong. I mean, this team had 733 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 5: signed Marlon Mack when. 734 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: You had still County Ingram, James Connor, Amaro de Mercado, 735 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: Corey Clement. So that's the only thing that's changed is 736 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: now Mac is done for the year. With that Achilles 737 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 2: injury that you know he unfortunately suffered what four days 738 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: after being signed. 739 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 5: So I do think those. 740 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: Are real possibilities you bring in an outside running back 741 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: because the running back you brought in is not going 742 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: to be able to contribute the way you had planned on. 743 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: Him being able to swing tackle. Josh Shones against Kelvin Beacham. 744 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: That's really interesting to me that that com petition battle. 745 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 2: So today, from what I saw again moving field to field, 746 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: unless you guys saw differently, since Humphreys was not out 747 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: at practice Wednesday, it looked like Calvin Beacham was getting 748 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: a lot of those reps at left tackle with the Ones, 749 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: Which is interesting because when DJ Humphries came out of 750 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: the second preseason game, which was the first he played, 751 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: it was Josh Jones who went in at left tackle. 752 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: So again another position where I truly believe when Gannon 753 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: says there is a competition going on, it really does 754 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: seem like there is a competition going on. Is there 755 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: a chance that both Beacham and Jones are on this 756 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: roster Week one? 757 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 5: I think it's a possibility. 758 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 2: I am equally as convinced that that's not the case. 759 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 2: That you find hopefully a trade partner and somebody who 760 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: needs a tackle and maybe their interest in in one 761 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: of those two. 762 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 5: But I'm not sure. Maybe again with these cuts, maybe. 763 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 2: With all the coaches that are now here on the 764 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: staff that weren't here last year, maybe there's somebody else 765 00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: they have their eye on. 766 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 3: That whole twenty twenty draft class. We pointed to it 767 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 3: back in June, and look at it again. Isaiah Simmons, 768 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: Josh Jones, now Lucky Fotu has been running first team 769 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: Rashard Lawrence, who I thought flashed, especially in the O 770 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: line D line drills. That's where I was focused in 771 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: the first joint practice. That's why I missed some of 772 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 3: the one on ones with the receivers and dbs. I 773 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: was looking at the O line, D line or Rashard 774 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: Lawrence made a couple of Vikings offensive linemen look really bad, 775 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 3: and so I think that's key for him. I don't 776 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 3: know how he graded out in the two preseason games, 777 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: but I think his future obviously is in doubt leading 778 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 3: up to the final fifty three and then the back 779 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 3: end of the safety room beyond Jalen Thompson and Buddha 780 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 3: Baker where exactly are the Cardinals and what if what 781 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: if someone is there on the waiver wire at the 782 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: end of the final fifty three cuts around the league 783 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 3: and it's been then the cornerback room depending on where 784 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: Marco Wilson is. So I think and if there's one 785 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: area that Jonathan Gannon knows exactly what he wants, it's 786 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: in the defensive backfield's. 787 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: That's so an interesting thought. If we don't know what 788 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: Marco Wilson is dealing with. We know that he left 789 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: the game as a Dennis Kardak and they both came 790 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 2: back on the sideline that Week two preseason game against 791 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, but neither of them practiced on Wednesday's joint practice. 792 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 2: So the thought of not having Marco Wilson week one 793 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: and having to start with what it would seem like, 794 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: Christian Matthew and Kee Trew Clark. 795 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 5: Would be an interesting one. 796 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 4: Did you know that Terry McLaurin might not play though, 797 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 4: because of turf toe, So they've got that going for him. 798 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 3: I did see that, Yes, they did in the preseason game. Yeah, 799 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: why would Terry McLaurin be playing the entire first half 800 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: of that preseason. 801 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 4: Because the Commanders said they didn't care about breaking the streak, 802 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 4: but they did care about breaking the strets. 803 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 3: They did. 804 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: Dame Baltimore winning streak. 805 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 3: It's deln twenty four preseason games in a row, going 806 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: back to twenty fifteen, and John Harball was a little 807 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 3: salty about that. 808 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 4: You know, I heard him talking about that, and I mean, like, 809 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 4: you'll say, it doesn't mean anything, and I'm like, nobody 810 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 4: ever said preseason doesn't mean anything. We said the wins 811 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 4: and losses don't mean anything. And there's a difference, Yes, yes, 812 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 4: there is. 813 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: All right, Well, I think this comes all the way 814 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: full circle to the following question. There are two sorts 815 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: of people in this world, those who have had a 816 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 3: full body cramp and those who have not. 817 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 5: I'm really glad that I'm on the not me. 818 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 3: Too, Zach Pascal said. When asked afterwards, he said, oh no, no, 819 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 3: I've had one before. He said, I'm on the verge 820 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 3: of yet another one at this moment, not quite yet, 821 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: but I have had a full body cramp before and 822 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 3: had to go to the er. 823 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: You think part of that was he just didn't want 824 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 2: to talk to the media that long in the heat, 825 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 2: still in his pads. 826 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: Paul, maybe maybe I don't know, try to. 827 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 5: Make us feel bad. 828 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: What would that be like? By the way, you know, 829 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 3: I don't want to envisia. I don't want to actually 830 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: speak that into existence. 831 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 4: So you've always got tomorrow watching practice in the heat. 832 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 3: It's true. 833 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 5: Just wear that visor again. 834 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a few ted Lasso comments, says you know, Danny, 835 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: was was it? 836 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 5: Was it real cooling? 837 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 3: The visor? The visor and the and the mustache. Look, yeah, no, 838 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: it's not. The mustache is going to be cut and 839 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: it will not be claimed via waivers. Put it that way. 840 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: There's just no chance that is happening, all right, anything. 841 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: Wait, you're not keeping the mustache. 842 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: Through this, No, no, no, after. 843 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: The regular season, you should keep the mustache as long 844 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 2: as the Cardinals win the first time through. 845 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 4: No shave November. 846 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 3: It's it's not winning behavior to use a there's no. 847 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: Added value to your mustache. 848 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: Mustache not bringing value to anything. You're absolutely right on 849 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 3: that front. In fact, you know, see that's Darren right there. 850 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 3: It's ending on a glass half empty point, the mustache. 851 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: So so, Danny, do you have anything that would be 852 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 3: glass half full? Anything positive you'd like to end on. 853 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 5: I like the mustache and the Paul I really did. 854 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's buying it. 855 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: Well, maybe I'll use the mustache to detract from the 856 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: frizzy hair from the humidity as I rock the David 857 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: Letterman look from nineteen eighty five. Google that up. 858 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: What should we do in our free time out here 859 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: Mall of America? If anyone's listening and you have good recommendations. 860 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 5: I've never been out there. 861 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 4: No, I was thinking about going out there. When when's 862 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: our free time? Exactly? 863 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 5: Well, there's no practice Friday. I know we're not going 864 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 5: to have all Friday all. 865 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 4: I was going to say right in the middle of 866 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 4: the day. 867 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 3: Maybe it's funny how you have the same mentality here 868 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: that you do in Arizona in August. Okay, what can 869 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 3: we do? This air conditioned? That's that's really well. 870 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 4: Going to the biggest mall in America, I would think 871 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 4: would be a good answer. 872 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 3: You'll get your steps in. 873 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: I might do that bus over to the new hotel 874 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 4: and then Huber to the mall. 875 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 3: Just bring Dave Pash with you. Okay, you'll have the 876 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: unlimited funds to go ahead and sustain that shopping spree. 877 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 3: That'll do it. For this edition, I wish I had 878 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 3: something more positive to say. 879 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 4: Darren, or or interesting the. 880 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: Friday day off. The Friday day off was I tried 881 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 3: to end on the full body cramp. 882 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: You did? 883 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 3: I try? 884 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 4: Although that's the rail, that's that's pretty glass half empty. 885 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 4: Let's talk about cramping up completely. 886 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I know what it was the other guy. I 887 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 3: don't want to leave. 888 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 4: Oh that's right, you left everybody. 889 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: The other player that should play three quarters? 890 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 5: Are you going to say, as Ama Simmons? 891 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 4: Ye? 892 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 5: Wow, I know you so well. 893 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 3: Fall Do you agree or disagree? Agreer disagree? He should 894 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 3: play a lot in this final preseason game. 895 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 4: I agree, but I don't think you will. 896 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm on that same sentiment. 897 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 4: Kay. 898 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 3: That'll do it for this edition at Cargon's Underground, brought 899 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: to you by Pacific Office Automation. As I defer the 900 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: last word to Danny and Darren