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Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air.

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Speaker 2: Abortion is not.

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Speaker 3: A big issue to the vast majority of Americans. That

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Speaker 3: is true of the pro abortion community, and it is

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Speaker 3: true of the pro life community.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: A number of people who are pro life are very

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Speaker 3: pro life. They do not want abortions, but it's not

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Speaker 3: the only thing they think about. Mike Pence made that

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Speaker 3: the only thing he talked about because he didn't have

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Speaker 3: a thought on any substantive issues that he could offer.

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Speaker 3: But he could be really, really, really against abortion. And

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Speaker 3: there were people who gravitated that. I like my pens

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Speaker 3: because if nothing else, he's really against abortion. Okay, what

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Speaker 3: about on the border or these six hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 3: that first and foremost he's very much against abortion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, but but there are going to be

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Speaker 3: a lot of other things that are going to come up. Well,

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Speaker 3: I just know his heart's in the right place on abortion. Okay,

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Speaker 3: But we've got to we've got to be better than

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that are against abortion

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Speaker 3: that actually have a brain that'll stand up for Trump

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Speaker 2: People get angry.

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Speaker 3: A certain percentage of people get angry if you suggest

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Speaker 3: there is an issue other than abortion, because they want

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Speaker 3: you to know they're not just against abortion. They will

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Speaker 3: literally burn the entire Republican Party down over abortion. It's

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Speaker 3: all they care about. I have no time for it.

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Speaker 3: No time for it, because that's the mindset that leaves

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Speaker 3: us with politicians who will leave the border wide open

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Speaker 3: while telling us they oppose abortion. I can't live with that.

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Speaker 3: We are sophisticated people. We are leaders of the world.

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Speaker 3: you to like me by sitting in the corner going well,

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Speaker 3: I too agree that being against abortion is.

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Speaker 2: The only thing we ever ought to do, because I

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Speaker 2: don't believe that. But when you.

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Speaker 3: Focus solely on abortion, which by the way, there's two

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Speaker 3: groups of people a fringe on both sides, that that's

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Speaker 3: all they care about, Well, you really want to give

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Speaker 3: them the Super Bowl? Have them stand out in the street,

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Speaker 3: each of them with signs, screaming each other in the face,

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Speaker 3: be the homepage of the station to arguing one for life,

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Speaker 3: one for abortion. They're so excited. Well, here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: When you drag our politicians on our side, When you

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Speaker 3: that's what you want them to talk about all day,

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Speaker 3: every day, you elevate the issue of abortion, and you

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Speaker 2: Michael, that's not true. Everybody's against abortion. Everybody. You know.

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Speaker 3: We lose sixty eight percent of unmarried women, one percent

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Speaker 3: But they want the right to have an abortion. And

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Speaker 3: the fact that you're taking away the right means they

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let that happen. I'm gonna keep my

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Speaker 3: For those of you who are excited about football season,

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Speaker 3: The play that gets your offense down to the three,

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Speaker 2: So he runs up after all the play has and

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Speaker 3: In front of God, the cameras, and the referees. The

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Speaker 2: Now. He may say, yeah, but that was a cheap shot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: What he just did out of an abundance of love

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Speaker 3: now on winning this election. Had a guy right to

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Speaker 3: me yesterday and he said, I'm not voting for Trump

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Speaker 3: anymore because I was for Trump because he's against abortion.

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Speaker 3: But he said he would not support a national ban

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Speaker 3: on abortion. I said, by all means, vote for Kamala,

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Speaker 3: so more abortions will be conducted. Just don't ever email

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Speaker 3: me again. And to ensure that you don't un blocking

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Speaker 3: you because you're an idiot. You're just a kind of idiot.

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Speaker 3: That is the reason we lose elections. Unless Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: agrees with you on one hundred percent of issues one

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Speaker 3: for him, And that's why we lose elections. There it is,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that won't admit to it.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that need a little personal attention.

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Speaker 3: They don't want Trump to agree with them ninety nine

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Speaker 3: There are a few people that want four more years

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Speaker 3: He said he wants to leave it to the states,

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Speaker 3: and that's what the Supreme Court did. He doesn't want

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Speaker 2: He wants to win and still be true to his principles.

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Speaker 2: This guy over here says, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Unless you're willing to do the thing that will cost

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Speaker 2: On The Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 3: It was on this day in two thousand and five

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Speaker 2: That's incredible.

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Speaker 3: That is, if you had asked me the number before

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Speaker 3: twelve years later, Houston would be hit with Hurricane Harvey.

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Speaker 3: Our house would be flooded, my kids, my wife and kids.

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Speaker 3: at the moment they most needed to apply that they did.

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Speaker 3: But New Orleans became in two thousand and five as

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Speaker 2: At George W. Bush.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that is exactly what they brilliantly did. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't George Bush's fault. Oh, he flew over. This is

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Speaker 3: You ever seen him on the aircraft carrier with his

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Speaker 3: That's a great visual. It would have been blown up

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Speaker 3: and put on the wall as Presidential library. He didn't

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Speaker 2: What kind of.

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Speaker 3: Nonsense was passed off in this country. That's the dumbest

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Speaker 4: When you look out of your hotel room window in

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Speaker 4: when you see bodies that you last saw in Banda Ace,

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Speaker 4: later died in the super Dome.

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Speaker 3: Except that turned out to be a lie.

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Speaker 2: None of what these people say is true.

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Speaker 3: Once you you realize they're all chronic, pathological liars, you

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Speaker 2: Guess what, that's not a vaccine, Guess what.

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Speaker 3: Injecting this poison into your body is not going to

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Speaker 10: Looking at the structures that are put into place, Like

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Speaker 10: racism is a structure, right, Sexism is a part of

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Speaker 10: the structure. Patriarchy and supremacy are part of these structures.

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Speaker 10: There are some ways where equity is now getting woven

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Speaker 10: into sort of like the some metrics. After talking to

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Speaker 10: doctor Peterson and some of our other department heads, like

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Speaker 10: pollution control, engineering, the toll road, and then looking at

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Speaker 10: a number of instruments and indicators, some of which have

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Speaker 10: come from the Justice forty initiative, been able to create

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Speaker 10: this tool called an Equity Action Tracker. There are some

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Speaker 10: other things that we're working on, an equity maturation model,

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Speaker 10: to determine where we are in the county as well

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Speaker 10: as an equity toolkit.

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Speaker 3: What there do you have or have you found about

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Speaker 3: flood risk and Harrison County.

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Speaker 10: That is a wonderful question, and to be honest with you, sir,

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Speaker 10: I do not have.

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Speaker 9: Any data or flood control at this time.

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Speaker 10: My office is two weeks old, My position is about

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Speaker 10: four months.

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Speaker 1: In what ways is the Office of Human and Civil

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Speaker 1: Rights hoping equities show up in flood related things?

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Speaker 10: I really don't know what my big overarching goals for

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Speaker 10: flood control is going to be.

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Speaker 9: Yet we have this myth.

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Speaker 10: That we need to bunk about what equity means, Like,

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Speaker 10: it's not this, It's not any of the miscommunication or

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Speaker 10: the misdirection that is happening in the media. I would

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Speaker 10: think one question that was asked to me some time

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Speaker 10: ago actually during the directro was how do we approach

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Speaker 10: sovereign citizens like you know, doctor Johnson. Do we just

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Speaker 10: kind of, you know, leave them to their own resources?

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Speaker 9: And I was like, absolutely not.

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Speaker 10: Just because they look at things from an ideologically different standpoint,

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Speaker 10: that does not mean that we do not we do

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Speaker 10: not reach out to them or provide them accessibility to opportunity.

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Speaker 10: How do we then and view these strategies that humanize

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Speaker 10: people that we wouldn't necessarily humanize. Our office is working

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Speaker 10: on equity focused centered trainings. Let me take a step

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Speaker 10: back first and foremost, we're doing an equity training needs assessment,

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Speaker 10: or we have some understanding about what foundational equity trainings

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Speaker 10: that we need to ve test and validate within the.

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Speaker 9: Next thirty six months.

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Speaker 10: Our goal is to really create this shared language, a

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Speaker 10: shared analytical framework, making sure we have institutionalized the equity definition,

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Speaker 10: the equity model as much as possible, that we are

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Speaker 10: shift through the way we look at things so where

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Speaker 10: equity is now a second nature that we are serving.

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Speaker 9: In nineteen thousand, ye