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Speaker 1: Scott Van pelt On loan from the Mothership. He's been

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Speaker 1: named the sportscaster of the Year. I'm going to question

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Speaker 1: the ballots tabulated there, but I'll give it to Scott

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Speaker 1: Van Peasey well deserved. He'll join us a little bit

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Speaker 1: will join us a little bit later on, as well

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Speaker 1: as the next role the seventy six Ers college hoops

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Speaker 1: all weekend long. With the bids going out. The Chargers

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Speaker 1: acquire Khalil Mack from the Bears. Will discuss that as well,

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Speaker 1: But baseball begins. You know, we missed baseball without missing

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Speaker 1: any baseball, So congratulations. You had to go away for

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Speaker 1: us to miss you. To come back, Baseball's back, but

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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks has been a roller coaster ride.

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Speaker 1: Finally got an agreement, and then baseball is going to

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Speaker 1: have Opening Day, pushing it back to April seventh. I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with that. You to still play one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty two games. There's a universal DHS, there's a draft

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Speaker 1: lottery now twelveteen playoff. The lockout had been going for

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Speaker 1: ninety nine days. But I'll give baseball credit. Baseball notorious

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Speaker 1: for resenting change, but it looks like making notable tweaks

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Speaker 1: to the game. I don't know if it elevates the

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Speaker 1: game back to America's pastime. I think that's past time.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. But baseball reach a new audience.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good first step. And I still think

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Speaker 1: the date April fifteenth loomed large here. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: know this. Chris mad Dog Russo, who works for the

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Speaker 1: MLB Network, yesterday joined us and he said, you can't

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Speaker 1: have baseball have a lockout on April fifteenth, the seventy

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Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier. That

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Speaker 1: would be horrible pr for baseball. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that factored in. Really this felt like it was Scott

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Speaker 1: Boris's clients against Baseball's owners. That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 1: Because those players didn't want to agree to this contract.

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Speaker 1: They had more extreme demands because of Scott Boris and

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Speaker 1: making no mistake about it, Scott Borris is a commissioner,

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Speaker 1: sorts the de facto commissioner with his players. But they

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Speaker 1: got it done. Baseball coming back, get spring training and

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Speaker 1: opening day baseball during the first weekend of the Masters.

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Speaker 1: There's always going to be competition there. We know what

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Speaker 1: the NFL does. We saw that this past week. Let

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Speaker 1: me start with Monday, Calvin Ridley got suspended for a

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Speaker 1: year for betting fifteen hundred dollars on football games. He's

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Speaker 1: not even playing. And then you had Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson same day, Carson Wentz, then now Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 1: This is what football does. Crazy week. But this is

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Speaker 1: why we move on so quickly from stories from athletes.

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Speaker 1: Does it seem like it was Monday when we talked

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Speaker 1: about Calvin Ridley betting fifteen hundred dollars suspended for a year.

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Speaker 1: Now you got to Shaun Watson gonna go in front

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Speaker 1: of the grand jury. They're going to decide if there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be criminal charges here. I don't know how long

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Speaker 1: that lasts. His trusted attorney, Rusty Harden, who did such

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Speaker 1: a wonderful job with Roger Clement, says should be wrapped up,

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Speaker 1: or at least he said this a couple of days

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Speaker 1: ago at the start of April. I sent the litle

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Speaker 1: sarcasm that yeah, just a little, a little, I remember

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Speaker 1: you know that whole thing in front of Congress, and

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Speaker 1: Rusty Harden loved the spotlight there, and he's going to

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Speaker 1: parade Roger through Congress and have him to take pictures

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Speaker 1: and everything's going to be great autographs. And then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, people went, wait a minute, what's going

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Speaker 1: on here? Now? I think Roger might be guilty of

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Speaker 1: some don'tin here, But back to de Shaun Watson meets

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Speaker 1: Who's going to get to Shaun Watson if he's able

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Speaker 1: to settle these civil suits and play next year. But

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Speaker 1: Any team that gets him, it is probably And I

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Speaker 1: an owner, can you, let's say, throw out a team? Well,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins aren't in the chase anymore, but but can

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Speaker 1: I ask the commissioner, Hey, we want to trade for him,

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Speaker 1: but we need to know what, like what happens. Can

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Speaker 1: you help us here? Can you tell me something off

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Speaker 1: the record? Could you say, yes, you are suspending him? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Is there a chance you're going to be suspending him

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Speaker 1: if there's no charges, no criminal charges? Is this conduct detrimental?

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Speaker 1: And my source said he didn't know how he couldn't

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Speaker 1: If you're an owner. Stephen Ross and the Dolphin said

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Speaker 1: they're already out of Deshaun watson mess. But he's got

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Speaker 1: his own mess to deal with. But I'm curious about that.

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Speaker 1: Any of these other teams that might be interested in

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, can you find out trouble? Shoot this ahead,

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Speaker 1: Sixers and the Brooklyn Nets, and there it really now

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Speaker 1: there were two things going on. It felt like Sixer

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Speaker 1: to play. He was upset with the fans because their

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Speaker 1: regressed as a player. Joe l Nbid you know, criticized him,

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Speaker 1: a sudden he wants out. Well, the fans showed up

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Speaker 1: for him, great, If you got to get that out

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Speaker 1: And then the game started, and it was one of

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it wasn't building. The building was falling

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Speaker 1: the new Kobe and Shack. We're gonna take it to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Is everybody on the sixers bandwagon today? Hello? Anybody? Where

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Speaker 1: where are you? Four days ago, they're the new Shack

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Speaker 1: either the Newshoby, Shack and Kobe. I said, no, they're not.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're not even the new Paul Gasol and Kobe

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Speaker 1: at the end of his career. I mean, it's a stop.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just silly. Here's Shack talking about the

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Speaker 1: seventy six ers right here, right now. Would you be

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Speaker 1: willing to crown mb and Harden as the next Shack

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Speaker 1: and Kobe? No, man had eight years of damage together. No,

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Speaker 1: not even close. Stop it. If they won one championship,

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Speaker 1: your hot take, Good luck with your hotake, and you

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Speaker 1: got eight games. They had eight years. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: of course, they're not until James Harden shows up in

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Speaker 1: James Harden didn't play well last night in your own building.

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Speaker 1: With the build up and Embiid, I loved seeing Embiid

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Speaker 1: And it's another weapon to have, another reason why you

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Speaker 1: Seth Curry there and Brooklyn played well, and you know,

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Speaker 1: are they going to meet in the playoffs? Maybe that

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Speaker 1: if it did. It's sort of reinforced things, you know, Harden,

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Speaker 1: he is. You go three for seventeen KD and early

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Speaker 1: when he makes shots, the net wasn't even moving. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he just I don't know how you stop any of

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Speaker 1: feels like I think you could just say to Kad,

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Speaker 1: You're going to take twenty five shots every night, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's economically as great as anybody who's ever

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Speaker 1: rebounded last night. It was just Embid's gonna be the MVP.

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Speaker 1: But KD is always that subtle reminder, maybe not so

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Speaker 1: a reminder of damn is he could And it's if

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Speaker 1: it's possible to be underrated, Katie's underrated at times. And look,

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Speaker 1: with the Wizards before he got the knee injury. Him

422
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: and Kobe were the only two guys in the whole

423
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: league that were averaging like twenty five, five and five,

424
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: And Jordan was thirty nine years old, so he was

425
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: still unbelievably good. I had a chance to train with

426
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: him coming into that season, but obviously a little bit older,

427
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: he had to pick his spots a lot more to

428
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: save his injury energy. Kobe was like nothing I had

429
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: ever played against, because I didn't see Wizards, I didn't

430
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: see Bulls Jordan. So Kobe was just the talent, the

431
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: skill level, the artistry, the mentality. He can go oh

432
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: for eight and hit the game winner with like it

433
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: was nothing. Oh for eight, man, he was closer to

434
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: getting hot. He wasn't thinking like he had awful night, right.

435
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: And then Lebron is just he's a freaking nature. You've

436
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: never seen the player of that athletic with that kind

437
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: of iq his basketball and tell he's a chess master.

438
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: He's always moving pieces, always moving across the board, always

439
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: thinking the game. I would say he's almost like a

440
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: bigger version of CP when it comes to how they

441
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: think the game. They're chess master. Okay, I'll give you

442
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: m j Kobe, Lebron in their prime as a teammate.

443
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: As a teammate, yeah, I didn't play with any one

444
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: of them, but if you ask me how I view

445
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: them from as a peer, which one would you want

446
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: as a teammate. I would say Michael just because I

447
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: feel like he's He's one of one. Michael is so

448
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: great that when somebody else is great in another field,

449
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: we say that's the Michael Jordan of that. I would

450
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: want to be a part of that. And the Bulls

451
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 1: are my favorite team growing up. Yeah, but I wouldn't

452
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: want Lebron if I'm a shooter like you are, because

453
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: Mike and Kobe they're gonna cut into your shots there. Jamal, Yeah,

454
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: it didn't say I'll play with my whole career, but

455
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: I want to go through that phenomenon. I want to

456
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: see what that's like. I'm a young player coming in.

457
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: Don't forget I came in as a point guard, so

458
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: I'll be fine with We're talking to Jamal Crawford Turner

459
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: Sports NBA and let's three time winner of the NBA

460
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: sixth Man of the year were you in the Gatorade

461
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: commercial with Jordan that you played the How old were you?

462
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: You played the younger Jordan, the Bulls version of Jordan

463
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: and he's with the Wizards. Absolutely. I was twenty two,

464
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: I believe, and I was the younger version. And I'm like, Okay,

465
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: what's the lines. He's like, no lines, it's just talk.

466
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Let's play one on one. I'm like, there's no lines,

467
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: like so I started reaching for the ball. He's like,

468
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: you reach, I teach right, and he's kind of I'm

469
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: going off in his flow. I'm like, okay, my player,

470
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to play like me. I'm trying to play,

471
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: just play. And the director that day, his name is

472
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: Joe I forget his last name. He directed Space Chare.

473
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: He's like, go up and dunk and do that, and

474
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: MJ was like, j C doesn't do all that dunking,

475
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: all right? And then they had Kevin Daley from The

476
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: Hog and Globetrotters who was doing the actual dunking. So

477
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I did the one on one stuff on the court,

478
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: talking to him playing one on one and that stuff,

479
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: and it was really really a dream come true. I

480
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: didn't know then it would be such an iconic commercial.

481
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: But you know, you go home, you tell your boys, like, hey,

482
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: what'd you do today? Um? I I was Michael Jordan

483
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: versus Michael Jordan. Nah Dan, it was the other way.

484
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: As soon as I got the cart say I'm gonna

485
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: be in the commercial, and you got Gatorade right? And

486
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: I got Gatorade. And I actually got a check from

487
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Gatorade for I couldn't believe that. I was like, I

488
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: get paid to be in a commercial with Michael Jordan.

489
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: This is this is crazy. Is their hope for the

490
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Lakers their best hope. Their best hope is that they

491
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I actually think they could be a

492
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: better playoff team than they were a regular season team.

493
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: And I believe with the veterans they have, the game

494
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: slows down dramatically, and the Lakers kind of neath that.

495
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't really enjoy doing extra effort things

496
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: or getting down in transition or running back too much.

497
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: So I think they're actually built more for the playoffs.

498
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure they get there. Would you make

499
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook sixth man, No, I would not do that.

500
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: I would actually stagger his minutes a lot more like

501
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: most great teams do right, or when they have two

502
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: great players that kind of on the perimeter. I would

503
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: stagger his minutes a lot more. So he would probably

504
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: come out at the eight minute mark, let Lebron play

505
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: the whole first quarter, then I bring back Rust the

506
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: second quarter with the second unit, you know. So that's

507
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: a way of kind of staggering their minutes where he

508
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: gets comfortable being more of the focal point. Because Westbrook

509
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: is kind of this is low hanging fruit. The Lakers'

510
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: issues are a lot deeper than Westbrook when I watched

511
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: some play, but I would stagger his minutes to kind

512
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: of put him more on that alpha dog role when

513
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: he's out there with the second unit. What are some

514
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: of the issues that are deeper rooted than Russia? Like

515
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: I said, extra effort. I feel like when they're winning,

516
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: they have a lot more energy. Things are different when

517
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: they're not winning. It's like a box You're gonna get

518
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: hit in the boxing match. If you get hit, you

519
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: know you gotta fight back. And when I see them

520
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: get hit, they don't necessarily always fight back, and that's

521
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: kind of the problem ads out there. They have some

522
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: deeper issues. What's the coolest thing in your office. My

523
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: wife got me my first ever shoes over You can't

524
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: see him right now, but my rookie shoes. I hadn't

525
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: seen him since I was a rookie, so she found those,

526
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: and then I would say that Kobe shoes he actually

527
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: signed for me. And then the Jordan pitcher right there

528
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: over my shoulder. That's probably with those three top three okay,

529
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: But if you have to get out of the house

530
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: and you take one thing, what are you taking. I'm

531
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: taking Kobe shoes that he's signed for me because I

532
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: can never get those again. What did he right on there?

533
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: And I was looking forward to that too, Dan, I

534
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: was like, what's he gonna say? What's he gonna say?

535
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: He said, Jamal great, competing against you all these years,

536
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: much respect and that for him that was so big

537
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: because he thrived on competition and we had some great battles.

538
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: So do you think Kobe could be underrated because he's

539
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: sort of in between Lebron and Mike. Yes, without a doubt,

540
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: and I think I think he's a top five basketball

541
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: player of all time. I feel like you could have

542
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: dropped him in any era in his peak and he

543
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: would have been a top five basketball player all time,

544
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's his skill levels out of this world.

545
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Then he had a shot where he was shooting left

546
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: hand like he was shooting even Mark Cuban had a

547
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: stand up like that was just unbelievable, right, I mean

548
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: he had sixty two and three quarters in the match,

549
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: had sixty one and said you want to get eight?

550
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: He said, no, I'll do it later because I'm a

551
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: later Like he was out of this world. Good. He's

552
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: the best like player I haven't played against, the matched

553
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: up against. So yeah, he's underrated for sure, and I

554
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: hope more guys who played against him. I thought that

555
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: he could. I thought he could have scored one hundred

556
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: in a game because he had the mentality to do that.

557
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: And I mean he got eighty one, but yeah, he

558
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: wasn't far off, yeah, because he would have gotten eighty.

559
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: We had Dirk Nevitchky on earlier in the week and

560
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: he said, you know, Kobe outscored us and then didn't

561
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: play in the fourth quarter. So he put up sixty

562
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: two and didn't play in the fourth quarter. He said

563
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: it easily could have gotten eighty eighty five in my opinion, man,

564
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: has anybody ever done that? And then to actually go

565
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: get eighty after that. Like his mentality, his skill level,

566
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: his work ethic, Mama. Mentality is a way of life.

567
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: It's not just on the court, it's how you live.

568
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: It's maximizing every second to what you do, what your

569
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: craft is, and how you go about your craft. So

570
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: it's inspiring. Kobe had a whole different or about it.

571
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: There could be a room full of stars he would

572
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: walk in and even the stars black. That's you know.

573
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: He had a different, different deal with him. Although when

574
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Michael showed up at the seventy fifth anniversary team oh

575
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: did you I tweeted about did you see that? That

576
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: was okay? Kobe had a different swag about him. Jordan's

577
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: was the same level, but he had to glow when

578
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: he walked in as well as like smoke around that guy.

579
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Everything freezes what's going on with him? Absolutely that was

580
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: when the crowd goes crazy. And it's Cleveland, so this

581
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: is Lebron's town. Mike comes in and all of a sudden,

582
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Lebron who it's amazing. My eleven year old son JJ,

583
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: we watched it and he said, look look how MJ

584
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: walks in. He I said, how do you walk in.

585
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: He say, he walked in like a boss, Like he

586
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: walked in like he owed to joint right, And I'm like,

587
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: if my eleven year old son picked up on that,

588
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: I know the players there did as well. Ken JJ shoot.

589
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah he can shoot it. He can really shoot.

590
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: He can play. He loves the game. I actually coached

591
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: him and uh, this is my first year doing that.

592
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm having a ball with it. So yeah, he can play.

593
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I know you you live in Seattle. It's when Seattle

594
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: getting the NBA team. Here, Jamal, you see my shirt, right, Yeah,

595
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's a little innuend though here we're putting

596
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: this out here. I like it. I believe in the

597
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: next five years. I believe the hockey team had to

598
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: come first, and now we got that. Everybody sees our

599
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: fan base. You see the Storm, the Seahawks, the Mariners,

600
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: now the Cracking. We have an unbelievable fan base. People

601
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: love coming to the city. Were built for it, and

602
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: we'll support it well. So I think within the next

603
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: five years. I said that ten years, but now I

604
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: actually believe it. I believe Downtown Freddie Brown, Jack Schickman

605
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: or Lenny Wilkins. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, he had Williams. Yeah,

606
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: that was that was a lot of fun that. I

607
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: love the atmosphere, you know, because I'll go back to

608
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: when George carl was there and they were they were

609
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: in the finals against Mike and I thought Sean Kemp

610
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: was the best player on the floor Jamal in that

611
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: NBA Finals against the Bulls, it was like, holy smokes,

612
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: that's a whole different guy. Yeah, he was out of

613
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: this world. Good. You had Gary little Hamper and he

614
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: came and played well towards the end. MJ was MJ,

615
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: of course, but Sean Kemp was the one people talked

616
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: about like, you know what, this guy came out of nowhere.

617
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean the dunk when he went over ride Man.

618
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: He has some great moments and Sean is a great

619
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: in Him and his wife Marvina are great in the

620
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: community even now to this day. They do a lot

621
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: of a lot of things that we collaborate on. Great

622
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: to talk to you again as always, And if so,

623
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: if the Clippers, the Lakers and Golden State called right now,

624
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: I'll be ready ten day contract you could go, no

625
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: doubt about it. I'll be ready and I'll get some buckets.

626
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Oh I know that. Did you ever do points per

627
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: minute in your career? Like, how many points did you

628
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: score per minute in your career? I've never done that.

629
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I know one year, the year

630
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: my first year in LA, I think per forty eight,

631
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I was at like thirty. I was pretty high, myst

632
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Speaker 1: That's the year Stephan and I both thought we were

633
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Speaker 1: making an All Star game. We talked about it, and

634
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Speaker 1: we both are wrong because David Least snuck in there

635
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Speaker 1: and took it. But yeah, that first year when I

636
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Speaker 1: was with the Clippers. But I've never done that. Is

637
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Speaker 1: Steph a better shooter than you? He is? He absolutely is.

638
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Speaker 1: He can get hot, He's better than anybody has ever

639
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Speaker 1: shot the ball, and the way he's changed the game,

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Speaker 1: is anybody better than Okay, So Steff is on his

641
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Speaker 1: own level on planet Okay, anybody else who's a better

642
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Speaker 1: shooter than you? In your opinion? No, there's a lot

643
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Speaker 1: of guys actually, Ray Allen, oh, Kegie Miller, those guys

644
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: were knocked down shooters, even Kevin Durant. He doesn't get

645
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Speaker 1: the credit he could deserves, just as a pure shooter.

646
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: Kyrie as well. This is some great shoots out there.

647
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Speaker 1: But I would say I'm in the top ten somewhere.

648
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Speaker 1: That's La Band. Great to catch up with you again.

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Speaker 1: As always, Jamal, thanks for joining us. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me. I appreciate it. That's Jamal Crawford, Turner, sports

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Speaker 1: How are you, Scott? I'm really good? I watching you

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Speaker 1: say brighoot an early early highlight of my day that

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Speaker 1: was I was telling me, do you want him up there?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be in the contest here of

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Speaker 1: bad song by great artists or great band? Sure, I'll

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Speaker 1: I'll throw one out there. And then this has been

678
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Speaker 1: heavily influenced by my running mate Stamford Steve because he

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Speaker 1: hated this song and it made me hate This song

680
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Speaker 1: is Blue Christmas by Elvis. And the more I heard

681
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Speaker 1: it throughout the holiday, and I would hear the h

682
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Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, it's not It's not good, is it?

683
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Speaker 1: It's unpleasant? And then there's the people in the background

684
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Speaker 1: kind of wailing like dogs. Um. Blue Christmas by Elvis

685
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Speaker 1: is is not a song I enjoy? Do you turn

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Speaker 1: it off or do you change channel? I think I

687
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Speaker 1: guy just endure it because I feel like it's not

688
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Speaker 1: that long. And you know, Christmas, you get a small

689
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Speaker 1: window with the holiday music, which I do enjoy, but

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Speaker 1: I don't like blue Christmas by all of us. Yeah,

691
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Speaker 1: I don't like when we have known artists do Christmas songs. No,

692
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Speaker 1: like Paul McCartney simply having a wonderful Christmas time. Well

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Speaker 1: that's a horrendous song. There's some bad Christmas songs. The

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Speaker 1: other hand, Well like Mariah Carey. I mean, she's she's

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Speaker 1: got a whole, a whole slew of fine Christmas music. Well,

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Speaker 1: she's the Queen of Christmas. There you go, Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: you go. So that's that's my entry. Okay, that was it.

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Speaker 1: That was all I wanted to talk to you about.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, Thanks good family. Everything's great, everything's good. Two

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Speaker 1: years ago today, what was the schedule like when you

701
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Speaker 1: were going to do Sports Center at the end of

702
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: the evening. Oklahoma City's playing Utah and you probably thought

703
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: that's somewhere in the rundown maybe, But what what was

704
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Speaker 1: your thought process the day sports started to die two

705
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: years ago tonight? What I remember vividly Dan about that

706
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Speaker 1: week was this horrible feeling of this this creep, this

707
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Speaker 1: this tide that was slowly rising and it was closing

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Speaker 1: in and it was it felt like a matter of time.

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Speaker 1: And I remember specifically thinking about the Big Ten Tournament

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Speaker 1: because that year my beloved Maryland team was good. They

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Speaker 1: want to share the Big East and Maryland wasn't going

712
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Speaker 1: to play until Friday today because they were one of

713
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Speaker 1: the top four seeds, and I just remember thinking, I

714
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Speaker 1: just hope they get to the game. But then I

715
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Speaker 1: remember like thinking, get to the game meaning what not

716
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Speaker 1: not that everything would stop, of course, and that night

717
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Speaker 1: and Dan, you'd you'd be able to relate to this

718
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: so well, having done it for years. You're you're watching games,

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Speaker 1: you're keeping tabs on what's happening. I was going to

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Speaker 1: be doing cut ins, which is the thing you see

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Speaker 1: during halftimes of the NBA games. And we've got you know,

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Speaker 1: six or seven monitors maybe more in um in the

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Speaker 1: one room we were in because we were running in

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Speaker 1: a legal sports book out of this area. I'm kidding,

725
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: but we're watching and you could see something was going

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Speaker 1: on in Oklahoma City, but we didn't have the sound up,

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00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: and so then we potted the sound up to what

728
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: is this? So how the officials just came running out

729
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: and you know, Twitter being what it is, you're you're getting,

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Speaker 1: you know, indications something's wrong. Then it's like maybe someone sick.

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Speaker 1: And then I run up and it's Woge telling us

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Speaker 1: that that something. It's Go Bear and the season's done,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god. I mean it went

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Speaker 1: from zero to one hundred like that, and then the

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Speaker 1: reality of it lands like a like an absolute anvil

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Speaker 1: on your head for what it meant, because in looking back,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't believe this is hyperbole to say it.

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Speaker 1: The NBA and Go Bears positive completely changed the direction

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Speaker 1: of COVID in the United States of America because when

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Speaker 1: the NBA said we're done, and the NHL followed suit,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, awfully, the unstable A tournament said

742
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Speaker 1: we're done, because that's was nothing that could be revisited. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously Stanley Cup and the NBA were able

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Speaker 1: to continue. But I just it was incredible from around

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock Eastern that night to going on live because

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Speaker 1: the King's Pelicans game, which they were going to play,

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Speaker 1: and then I think the reality for them landed, like

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Speaker 1: what the hell are we doing? We're not doing this.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was an official that had been in

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Speaker 1: the Utah game, not a couple of days earlier, and

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Speaker 1: the Pelicans are like, why, like, because remember mentally where

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Speaker 1: we were then. It was this horrifying thought that if

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Speaker 1: you got it, what did it mean? Maybe we were

754
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Speaker 1: you were doomed. So I don't know. There were just

755
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Speaker 1: so many things swirling, and with the benefit of a

756
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Speaker 1: couple of years, it's interesting sort of how some things

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Speaker 1: are maybe more clear. And it was a lot man,

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Speaker 1: But how do you think history is going to treat

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00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert? Well, I mean, they'll always remember him doing

760
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Speaker 1: what he did with the microphones and making light of it.

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Speaker 1: But I remember this, Dan, I remember that night saying

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Speaker 1: to Roy Scheng on the air and I said, I

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Speaker 1: try to be as clear as I could. I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking out loud. I'm not trying to play doctor

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Speaker 1: here because we didn't know. But I said, is it

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Speaker 1: maybe a good indication that Rudy felt well enough that

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Speaker 1: he wanted to play but they told him he couldn't,

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00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: you know? Because you know what I'm saying, like at

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Speaker 1: that point in twenty twenty, if you're positive for COVID, like,

770
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: oh god, maybe I'm maybe I'm going to die by tomorrow. Well,

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00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: as it turned out and this particularly in the athletic world,

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00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: gratefully that that really nobody really got that horribly ill.

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean in professional athletics. And I think they'll remember

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Speaker 1: that he acted like an idiot and he was too

775
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: casual with the doing making fun of things, but they'll remember.

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Speaker 1: They'll always remember his name because he was the first

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Speaker 1: big time athlete, and I think they'll remember that he

778
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: was the one that made the NBA slam the brakes,

779
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: which led everybody in our country to take it much

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Speaker 1: more seriously than they had been prior to that Wednesday night.

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00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: Paulie and I were talking about this recently, that we

782
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Speaker 1: went two months without any live sports and this is

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Speaker 1: three hours that I'm doing a show. Yeah, you're doing

784
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Speaker 1: a highlight show, so you kind of build in highlights

785
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Speaker 1: in a highlight show. At what point did a light

786
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Speaker 1: go on and say this is the let's pivot and

787
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: we can still do this every single night. I don't

788
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Speaker 1: want to be over j you know, I just don't

789
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: want to be dramatic about it because there were people

790
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: doing far more important work. We all understand this. I

791
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: just say that for someone whose job it is to

792
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: do an hour long show about the night's sports and

793
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: the highlights and there are none. It was mentally just

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00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: you got to a point where it was just like,

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Speaker 1: what are we going to do? And let's remember the

796
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: direction of the conversation at the time, Dan, we had

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Speaker 1: the George Floyd murder in Minnesota, and Minnesota, we had

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Speaker 1: the Bubba Wallace incident in Talladega, which you know, people,

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Speaker 1: what was that? It was that it was simply just

800
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Speaker 1: an innocuous thing that happened to be in his stall,

801
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: whatever the case might have been. But remember the tenor

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00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: of the conversation in our country, and a lot of

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00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: that occupied our time. And there's a segment of our

804
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Speaker 1: population that always wants you to stick to sports. And

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00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, I'd happily stick to sports. I just

806
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: I'd love for you to tell me what they are,

807
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm fresh out of sports over here. And

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00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: we were we creatively came up with stuff I remember thinking,

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Speaker 1: and it's interesting our president, Jimmy Pittaro, had a very

810
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: similar idea, and we all kind of blumped it together.

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Speaker 1: Just how do we honor people whose seasons ended? Because

812
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: there were so many athletes across the country that were

813
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Speaker 1: on the CUSP think of where we are right now.

814
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: You're ready to crown a champion in some sport, maybe

815
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Speaker 1: it's hockey, maybe it's basketball or whatever. And we came

816
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: up with the concept of Senior Night and that became.

817
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: It benefited them maybe, but it certainly benefited us. We

818
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: needed content, and it was really cool to find out

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Speaker 1: that that meant things to people around the country. We

820
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: were really really you know, proud that we were able

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Speaker 1: to to honor them appropriately. And then we had Dan,

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Speaker 1: we had you know, last Dance, and we turned the

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Speaker 1: last Dance into content and salute to our groups, Salute

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Speaker 1: to my guy j Mack. Jason McCallum is a one

825
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: of our producers on the show. He went back to

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Speaker 1: him through the Bulls season and found bad beats from

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Speaker 1: the Bulls from the Bulls nineteen ninety six season, and

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Speaker 1: we're showing bad beats and it was I remember people thinking,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, like because you imagine being some poor

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Speaker 1: guy that was on the wrong end of a beat.

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Speaker 1: You know, however many years ago and now now you're

832
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Speaker 1: reliving it again, thinking yeah, I had the jazz as

833
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: that night or whatever. But I we I think we

834
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: talked to Jeff Pass in like forty two times. We

835
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: talked to Adrian Wojanowski, probably the same because it was

836
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: some version every day. Dan, you remember it of the

837
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: same thing. Hey, what do we think they're gonna do?

838
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Speaker 1: What's the bubble gonna look like? When might they compete?

839
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Speaker 1: What are the protocols going to be? It was it

840
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: was just you did it three times more than I did,

841
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: three hours more a day. I just wonder this, did

842
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Speaker 1: you mentally did you just feel like I don't know

843
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: that I can continue to do this? Like did you

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Speaker 1: feel like your brain was in a knot? At times?

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Speaker 1: It was strange coming in. I didn't. You don't have

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Speaker 1: any choice, you have to do it. But I remember

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Speaker 1: it takes me about twelve minutes to get to work,

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Speaker 1: and it felt like those twelve minutes I would dread

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Speaker 1: because I was like, I don't know how to do

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Speaker 1: this now, And look, we have it great, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not I don't mean to diminish anything. This is just

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Speaker 1: our vacuum, my world, trying to entertain this audience. And

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Speaker 1: I'd come into Paulie and I go, what do you God?

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Speaker 1: And I never relied on I don't think we relied

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Speaker 1: on each other so much over that two month span

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Speaker 1: because I said, we still have to do it. We

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Speaker 1: may not, we may be you know, whining and moaning,

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Speaker 1: but we got to do it. We're a diversion for

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Speaker 1: people around the country. We I don't care what it is.

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Speaker 1: We got to do it. And you know, we just

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Speaker 1: our ratings went up, our audience grew with no Sports

862
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: because I think our approach was a smart approach. But

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00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, we were all in it together. And I

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Speaker 1: said to the audience, I don't have answers, but we're

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Speaker 1: trying and we'll be here every single day for you.

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Speaker 1: But I just remember, I don't know if I've ever

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Speaker 1: had a challenge like that where you did have Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: That was a great story story, Like we had moments

869
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Speaker 1: pockets where you're going, oh, let's grab onto that, and

870
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Speaker 1: you would hold on to that life raft a little

871
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Speaker 1: bit longer because you didn't have anything else to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and you made something that maybe was not as big

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Speaker 1: a little bit bigger as a result, but it was.

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Speaker 1: I'll look back on that as one of the proudest

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Speaker 1: moments I've ever had with this show, and you probably,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess, look back on what you guys did

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Speaker 1: two years ago, the start of two years ago with

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Speaker 1: your team without a doubt, Dan, I think what it

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00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: speaks to and you certainly have this is a relationship

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Speaker 1: with the audience. And when the when the audience knows

881
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: you and they know you sort of, they know your voice,

882
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Speaker 1: they know what you stand for, they know who you

883
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Speaker 1: are that they know you're not going to try to

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Speaker 1: besm and when you're just trying to get through all

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Speaker 1: of it together and you recognize that what you are.

886
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Speaker 1: And we got some wonderful notes from people that you

887
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Speaker 1: represent this thing. You're some light that's on and it's comfortable.

888
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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, I'm glad it's comfortable for you because

889
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm over here like I'm a man band playing

890
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Speaker 1: at kazoo and banging on the drums like a chimpanzee.

891
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make noise for the hour. And

892
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: but yes, I mean, certainly the Senior Nights stuff. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was, it was. It felt great to be able

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Speaker 1: to give somebody something. Just I see you, I acknowledge

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Speaker 1: your team, and we know you were almost did something

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Speaker 1: awesome and it got taken. No one's fault, right, But

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Speaker 1: what's what's incredible right now. Two years later, last week,

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Speaker 1: I was down in Durham for Carolina Duke and I,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're in the building for that last game,

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Speaker 1: and more than anything, I was just struck by what

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Speaker 1: ninety four hundred people sound like, what it feels like,

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Speaker 1: the energy that the shared experience, and then this sport,

903
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Speaker 1: what sport provides like Duke was there for a party

904
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Speaker 1: and Carolina was not there for a party. Man, they

905
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Speaker 1: were there to win and they did, and all of

906
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Speaker 1: what just coming home from that, I was just moved

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Speaker 1: by shared experience, the sound of it, the feeling of it,

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Speaker 1: and then the theater of what sports and only sports are.

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Speaker 1: And I know you and I both we've talked about this,

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Speaker 1: just how fortunate we feel to do what we do

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Speaker 1: and to catalog this and to get to know the

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Speaker 1: people that to do it, and then just then just

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Speaker 1: to watch the games and god without the fans there,

914
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Speaker 1: which credit to all the sports that came back, because

915
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Speaker 1: watching sports help, but fans make sports what they are,

916
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Speaker 1: they really do. And years from now, when we look

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Speaker 1: back on that year the NFL played games with nobody there,

918
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Speaker 1: it's just so odd, it's so jarring and then it

919
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Speaker 1: became jarring when we saw people there again. You had

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Speaker 1: to reacquaint yourself with what all that felt like. So

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Speaker 1: it's um, I don't know, man, it's wild. In some ways,

922
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Speaker 1: it feels like it was one hundred years ago, and

923
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Speaker 1: in the midst of it, it felt like it would

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Speaker 1: never end. You know, it was just this quicksand that

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Speaker 1: you just were trying to keep your head and keep

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Speaker 1: your mind afloat. And I don't know, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: an honor. I don't know, it's just what we are

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Speaker 1: lucky enough to do. But I'm I was proud of

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Speaker 1: what we tried to do then, just like the same

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Speaker 1: thing that you're you know, you're gonna fill three great

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Speaker 1: hours today and every day. That's what you do and

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Speaker 1: that's what we try to do. Great to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you, so always, Scott, congratulations on the honor Sportscaster

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Speaker 1: of the Year. I appreciate that. I you know, I

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Speaker 1: got a nice phone call. I tied Ernie Johnson didn't

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Speaker 1: beat him, but I tied him, so I'll you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy. I don't know if we have to cut

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Speaker 1: a trophy in half, I don't care. I got something,

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Speaker 1: but it's like a tie goes to the runner. So

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Speaker 1: it's okay. I mean, you were safe at first and

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Speaker 1: you get to have a trophy. You could tell I

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Speaker 1: kick Ernie Johnson's asking a forty. I really feel like

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Speaker 1: I would. Really No, I don't. I probably popa amstringing

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Speaker 1: at least. Thank you, Scott be well being at Scott

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Speaker 1: van Pell ESPN SportsCenter Anchor