1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: He welcome back, George, nor with you. Doctor. Samantha Corfield, PhD, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: author is a spiritual counselor and occultist. For decades, she 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: has worked with individuals seeking clarity, spiritual counseling, and the 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: desire to live a more meaningful, magical world. Her work 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: offers people a gentle yet empowering approach to mortality, inviting 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: readers to examine fear, claim control of the afterlife there 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: after life, and live more fully in the present. Her 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: book is called Create your Own After Life, Take Control 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: of Life after Death. Samantha, Welcome. 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: Hi, George, Thank you, Thank you for having. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: Me looking forward to this. When did you write the 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: book Create your Own Afterlife? 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: So it just came out in April, and it was 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: about two years worth of work before that. 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: What got you into that area? 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So I sort of grew up in that area. 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: I've always been. I was that weird kid that was 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 3: always fascinated with the ghost in the stories. But I'm 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: from New Orleans, so I feel like that kind of 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: comes with the New Orleans territory that you know, you're 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: more apt to kind of believe or see things or 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: go on ghost tour cemeteries, that kind of thing. So 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: really grew up with it. So yeah, just sort of ingrained. 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Did your parents kind of push it? 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: Okay, So they didn't push it, but they didn't discourage it. 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: My father was a live and let live person and 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: as long as you weren't, you know, hurting anything or anyone, 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: he was all for it. My mother was very much 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: into She followed a particular spiritualist in New Orleans and 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: she read tea leaves at the bottom of the tea 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: room in the French Quarter. So I was very often 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: to tag along. I'm an only child, there was no babysitter, 34 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: so I was always a tagalong to go to these things, 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: which was kind of amazing. When I look back on 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: it now, I was like, Okay, that was a pretty 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: amazing thing to be taken to things like seances and 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: take trips to the Edgar Casey Foundation and kind of 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: do all these things as a literal child. And so 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: they didn't push it, but they certainly I would say, 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: we're encouraging because I never you know how little kids 42 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: sometimes say that, oh I saw a ghoster, Oh I 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: saw a spirit and then a lot of parents will 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: be like, no, you didn't, that's your imagination. Well it 45 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: was different for me because, for instance, one time I 46 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: saw a leprechaun in our backyard, like a full on leprechaun, 47 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: and I ran into the house to tell my mom 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: that I saw a leprechaun, and instead of going you 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: did not see a leprechaun, she said, tell me what 50 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: he looked like and comes show me where he is. 51 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: Was so, of course, by the time we got back 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: out there, I didn't see the leprechaun and I've never 53 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: seen another one. But to me, I just full on 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: saw a living, breathing leprecaun. And because no one told 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: me that maybe I was imagining things, I grew up 56 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: with it. And my grandmother was very formative as well, 57 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: so I had a lot of not necessarily encouragement, but 58 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: I guess more importantly not discouragement. 59 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: And sure wasn't a little redheaded kid, right. 60 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: Hey man, it was a leprechaun custory. I'm sticking to it. 61 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Now. 62 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: The title of your book, Creates your Own Afterlife, is 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: kind of interesting. Tell me about the title. 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So, without getting into long winded about the story 65 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: of how the book came about for a long time. 66 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: You know, as a child, you grow up with your 67 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: religious or spiritual beliefs, or maybe you don't, but you know, 68 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: the afterlife is something that we tend to have at 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: least some sort of view of growing up or as adults, 70 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: and depending you know, on our cultural background, our heritage, 71 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: it could be different for everyone. Well, I always felt 72 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: very strongly, and I talked about this in the book. 73 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: As a little child, I had my sights set on heaven. 74 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: I was a little Catholic girl. I was going to 75 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: Catholic school. Heaven was like my number one priority. So 76 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: you know, I'm already, you know, like eight, and I'm 77 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: already you know, planning what's going to be happening, and 78 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to be sitting on the cloud with Jesus, 79 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: you know, talking, and that's going to be the So 80 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: I always had like some sort of idea and plan 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: and a friend of mine got very ill. Will fast 82 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: forward to as an adult, obviously, a friend of mine 83 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: got very ill and she told me she had months 84 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 3: to live. And I had been her spiritual counselor and 85 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: mentor for many years, and what she wanted to know 86 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: for me was what was going to happen next? For her, 87 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: where was she going? What was it going to be like? 88 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: So we had many conversations about it, but we both 89 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: left most of those conversations feeling unfulfilled and dissatisfied with 90 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: whatever our conclusions were. And I started getting a little 91 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: frustrated with it. She started getting a little prostrariy with it. 92 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: And one day we were having a discussion and she's like, 93 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: I really need to know what's going to happen. And 94 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: I just blurted out, what do you want to happen? 95 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: And I said it kind of like that, and you 96 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: know how you have those moments where you're like, wow, 97 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: wish I wouldn't have said that. Try to put those 98 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: words back in because I felt like I had just 99 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: been harsh, and you know, it just it sounded a 100 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: little brutal to my ears. But before I could apologize, 101 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: she started off with a litany of things that she 102 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: wished would it would be her after life, and I 103 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: was like, start writing this down. Just the minute she 104 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: started talking, and I was like, oh my gosh, this 105 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: is something. And I was like, start writing the down, 106 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: start writing the down. So we both started writing it down, 107 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: and she passed about two months later, but in that 108 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: time she had written a complete after life. We did 109 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: it together and it felt divine. It felt sacred and guided. 110 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: You know. Now I always tell people, I'm like, hey, 111 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: this is a really good book, but you know it 112 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: was guided by oh my guide, so if I had 113 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: to give them the credit. But it felt like a 114 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: moment in time where you've hit upon something sacred and 115 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: important and you don't have time to think about why me, 116 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: why am I getting this sacred information? Why am I 117 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: privy to this? All you have time to do with 118 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: a chic, a terminally ill person is moved forward with 119 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: what they want. And so that's what we did, and 120 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: from that this book was born. 121 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: Do you find, Samantha, that most people are afraid of dying? 122 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely? And since the book has come out, and I've 123 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: been on social media a lot, even more than when 124 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: i was writing the book, people so many people have 125 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: asked me, is just going to help me? Because for 126 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: some people, this fear of death is crippling. It's called fantatophobia, 127 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: and it's a real medical condition where people are so 128 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: afraid of dying that they aren't living their whole being 129 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: is taken up with this absolute chilling fear of death. 130 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: And I've have so many of them reach out to 131 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: me and I'm like, please, please read this book. Do 132 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: what this book says. You need to take control of 133 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: this because you're taking control of your afterlife, you're taking 134 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: control of this life as well. 135 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: And they're going to sleep. They think they're going to 136 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: die in their sleep. 137 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And I think, I mean, my heart just 138 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: kind of broke when I was talking to all these people, 139 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: because yes, we all have some all but you know, 140 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: most of us have some fear of death, and you 141 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: know that's healthy. That's what keeps us from stepping out 142 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: in front of a bus or you know, falling off 143 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: a cliff. You know, we have some sense of self 144 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: preservation and and so that's perfectly normal. But for these people, 145 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: it's just like you said, George, they're literally afraid to 146 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: go to sleep. And it's so interesting that you brought 147 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: that up, because one of the women I was speaking 148 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: with sleeps upright in a recliner. It just kind of 149 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: dozes like she won't lay down because she has laying 150 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: down as that vision of dying likes laying in it. 151 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: She always said it's like laying in a casket. And 152 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: so my hope is that people will really, you know, 153 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: kind of get onto this and start living their lives. 154 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about the afterlife. But I'm also like, okay, 155 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: we need to get this packaged a way and think 156 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: so that you can be living this life as well. 157 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: That is fascinating, It truly is. 158 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: But I know you're going to want someth after hearing this. 159 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: This is an amazing story. 160 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. 161 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: Now I understand that Malachi, who's eight almost nine years 162 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: old now, was suffering with not just one or two warts, 163 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 4: but I mean a significant outbreak of warts all over 164 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 4: his body, so significant it impacted his ability to really function. 165 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 166 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to 167 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 6: right e TI's book. 168 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 5: Actually, that got me thinking about it. I'm not surprised. 169 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 6: It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can 170 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 6: see that it would work. 171 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: And so at what point did you see that there 172 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 4: was actually improvement it's really going to work. 173 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 6: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks. 174 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 6: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller 175 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 6: and then going down to with just little rid monks. 176 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 6: The whole things are gone and we're talking about one, 177 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 6: you know, one that size for Waner, I thought, no way. 178 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: That's gonna Wow. 179 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 6: That's just been miraculous to see him get into a 180 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 6: pair of shoes. 181 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: Yes, how wonderful. 182 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: That's great to see. 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C A r 192 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 7: N I v O r A carnivora dot com. 193 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: Did you have two near death experiences yourself? 194 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: I did? I did. One is a child, I one 195 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: as a child, and one has an adult and they 196 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: were vastly different. But so the first one myself and 197 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: my cousins. We were in Virginia Beach, which is kind 198 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: of funny because my mom and I were there to 199 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: visit the Educacy Foundation and so, and we had my 200 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: aunt lived there with her two kids. So anyway, we 201 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: were visiting the beach, and you know, the family was 202 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: out there and the three of us kids got on 203 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: a raft and just just we weren't really far out, 204 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: but we got caught in sort of an undertow and 205 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: it turned the raft over and we all went down. Well, 206 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: my uncle had it was a strong swimmer, had been. 207 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: I don't think the seals were together that time, but 208 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: whatever the three seals were, he was trained in that. 209 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: And so he jumped in immediately, of course, and and 210 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: his two kids popped up to the circus and he 211 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: grabbed them and somebody told me later that he literally 212 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: pitched them to a bystander so he could go try 213 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: to find me. 214 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: So in that time, life assume, right. 215 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: Come on, this is the sixties. No no, no, no, no, no, 216 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: no life preserver. Now, I won't even let my dog 217 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: get in the water without a light jacket. But that's 218 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: a whole nother story, right, So, in the time that 219 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: it took, because clearly I got rescued. In the time 220 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: that it took, I went to what I believed was 221 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: the bottom of the ocean, and everything was incredibly beautiful. 222 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: There were all these fish of colors that I couldn't 223 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: even imagine that I knew it was like an underwater 224 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: crystal paradise. I saw mermaids and I saw that looked 225 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 3: like they were talking to each other. And in the 226 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: distance from this, I saw a crystal cave. And now, 227 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: now let me just go back a bit and say, 228 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: there's no fear here. I'm not fighting, I'm not drowning, 229 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: I'm not none of that's happening absolute one piece. So 230 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: I see this crystal cave and I'm like, I am 231 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: going to go see that. And the closer I got 232 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: to it, in my little child's brain, I knew there 233 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: was something in there that was just for me, and 234 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to know what it was. I wanted to 235 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: see it, and so I started kind of swim walking 236 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: to the cave. And just as I got there, I 237 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: woke up on the beach, you know, spewing up water, 238 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: people freaking out. 239 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: My mom. 240 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: Here my mom screaming in the back background. 241 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 242 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: And you know, I had really long hair, and my 243 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: uncle said that's how he found me, because my hair 244 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: floated to the top and he just grabbed my hair 245 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: and pulled me out of the ocean. 246 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Said, and so he did save your life. 247 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: He did save my life, oh one. And and you know, 248 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: in later years I felt so bad for him because 249 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: people kind of were like, oh, of course you got 250 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: your kids first, and you know, I was like taking 251 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: up for him. I say, that's not how it happened. 252 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: His kids just happened to bob up like little. 253 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: Pork the. 254 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: Rock. 255 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So you know, so I was like, besides the 256 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: point he went back and got me, that's the actual point. 257 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: How long were you? How long were you under Shamantha? 258 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: What do you think? 259 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's so interesting. It felt like twenty to 260 00:15:54,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: thirty minutes, Oh my god, because but I wasn't. Wasn't 261 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: It was probably less than three minutes. I mean they 262 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: did have to do CPR. I mean, so I guess 263 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: technically I drowned. 264 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: Sure, you split up water in your lungs and everything else. 265 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: Right, Oh yeah, yeah, it was Yeah, that part of 266 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: it was no fun. And I and sort of the 267 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: funny part about it was I was so mad that 268 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: I didn't get to see what was in the crystal cave, 269 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: and I was like, I need to go back to under. 270 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: We go back under, and my uncle's like, you're not 271 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: even going near the water, are you crazy? So I 272 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: was like, I need to see what that was, and 273 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: it's it was so vivid. I'm I'm seventy two now. 274 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: This happened I think when I was ten, and I 275 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: can still close my eyes and see every part of it, 276 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: every single part of it. I can feel it. I 277 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: can because that was the other thing. It felt warm 278 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: and both so comfortable, you know. So, yeah, I was 279 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: at total peace. 280 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: And that was your first after death experience. What about 281 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: the second one? 282 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: The second one was a very different circumstance and story. 283 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: I was in a domestically violent relationship and my then 284 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: husband he was he was physically abusing me and he 285 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: knocked me down on our bed and I was screaming 286 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: because I was screaming for help, and he put a 287 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: pillow over my face and basically smothered me. I passed out, 288 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: And at that time, this was a completely different experience, still. 289 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 5: Peaceful though. 290 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: Even under those violent circumstances. The NDE was still very 291 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: peace folk. 292 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Only this time, did you did you know he was violent? 293 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 3: Well? I did. Well, this was very early on in 294 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: our marriage, and I'm just gonna say, uh, women should 295 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: never put up with that now because you have somewhere 296 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: to go. 297 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 2: But there was nowhere to go, even the benefit of 298 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: didn't you I did. 299 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: I did, and then I didn't. Plus plus my dad 300 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: was like, nope, uh he did. He suffocated me. I 301 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: I started going through kind of the the quintessential look 302 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: that one thinks about a tunnel, only I was floating 303 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: in the tunnel on my back. I was just floating along, 304 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: and all along the tunnel were faces nobody's just faces 305 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: of people I knew that had passed away, and they 306 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: were talking and saying something to me. I couldn't hear it, 307 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: but in my mind they were comforting me and telling 308 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: me it was okay, that everything was going to be fine, 309 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: and you know, the words of encouragement, and so I did. 310 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: I got to a part of the tunnel and I 311 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: saw some people that I knew but I hadn't known 312 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: very well. Uh, schoolmates, a waitress from a place we 313 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: used to to go when I was a kid, and 314 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 3: the But it was the same thing. They were just 315 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: encouraging me. Well. I was like, huh, but okay, everything's 316 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: still peaceful. And then he pulled the pillow off of 317 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: me and slap me across the face to wake me up. 318 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: Geez. 319 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 320 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam 321 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: dot com for more