Speaker 1: Warning, today's episode contained spoilers for the excellent Paddington and
Speaker 1: it's very good sequel Paddington two. Correct be warded. Oh
Speaker 1: my name is Jason Getzepsio.
Speaker 2: And I'm Rosie Night from joliad London, where Paddington now lives.
Speaker 1: And we're coming to you from the deepest, darkest jungles
Speaker 1: of Peru to welcome you back to x revision of
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Speaker 2: In today's episode, in the Adlock, we are going to
Speaker 2: be talking about Paddington one and two, including a discussion
Speaker 2: on which we believe to be better, which may be controversial,
Speaker 2: and thanks to Common and her love of Stuart Little,
Speaker 2: we're gonna end this with a little quick fire around
Speaker 2: about five other cute animal movies to watch once.
Speaker 3: You've watched Paddington one and two.
Speaker 1: But first, Paddington's all right. Paddington won twenty fourteen surprise hit,
Speaker 1: should we say the surprise hit of twenty fourteen definitely,
Speaker 1: with a wonderful cast including Hugh Bonville, Sally Hawkins as
Speaker 1: Mary Brown, not returning for the third movie, Sadly, Sadly, Sadly,
Speaker 1: Jim BROADBN Slate. Michael Gambona is the voice of Uncle
Speaker 1: Pastouoso and of course the voice of Paddington, the wonderful, comforting,
Speaker 1: soft as a blanket voice of Ben Wishaw, who I
Speaker 1: think this way, he might be more famous for this
Speaker 1: than anything that he's ever done, would you say.
Speaker 2: So, Q?
Speaker 3: Maybe? Q maybe.
Speaker 2: But it's also extremely funny because we also recently were
Speaker 2: just talking about Black Doves, where he's like a really
Speaker 2: sassy up front, like.
Speaker 3: Very explicitly adult murderer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there was a great present of you where
Speaker 2: I think Kiera Knightley didn't know he was Paddington and
Speaker 2: that was just hilarious. But yes, this is likely his
Speaker 2: most famous casting. And also I would say wonderful casting
Speaker 2: because this is like a Ben Schwartz as sonic kind
Speaker 2: of level where you just feel like they understood what
Speaker 2: they were doing.
Speaker 1: He brings like a level of emotion to the line
Speaker 1: readings that the innocence that Paddington has, but also at
Speaker 1: the right moments, like a sadness that's just fucking devastating. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the character design is so good, and I think part
Speaker 1: of what makes these movies so good is they know, okay,
Speaker 1: we really need to take up the emotional steaks up
Speaker 1: a notch. Let's just do a close up of Paddington's face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and also the same if he's going to
Speaker 2: get into like crazy trouble, because a lot of these
Speaker 2: movies are like, it's Paddington and he doesn't know how
Speaker 2: a bath works. Might sound very silly, but I do
Speaker 2: think that combination of kind of broad physical comedy, emotional
Speaker 2: heart and just like an absolute murderous row of fantastic
Speaker 2: British actors really do make these incredibly incredibly unique.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we open in the Jungles the Darkest Peru,
Speaker 1: where an explorer from London encounters this family of intelligent bears.
Speaker 1: These explorers have been going all around the world and
Speaker 1: like categorizing animals and taking samples back, and he finds
Speaker 1: these bears to be absolutely fascinating. So he teaches them
Speaker 1: about England and Britain and the culture there, and tells
Speaker 1: them a bunch of fanciful facts about him.
Speaker 2: He is a bit of a colonizer, his energy is
Speaker 2: like he's going spreading. He's not only going there as
Speaker 2: an anthropologist, which we all know is a dangerous thing
Speaker 2: to come to your country, but also he is telling
Speaker 2: fanciful stories like this is not a true representation of London.
Speaker 1: Clearly believing that these bears will never make their way
Speaker 1: to London. So you could kind of like spin a
Speaker 1: yarn that said, this is also the listen. This is
Speaker 1: Paddington is expressly a story about colonization and I think
Speaker 1: immigration kind of like framing it in the in the
Speaker 1: most positive way in that, you know, the ultimate messages
Speaker 1: just because people are different, don't judge them for that,
Speaker 1: take them as they are, and in fact they might
Speaker 1: you might find that their presence here in your world
Speaker 1: is actually incredibly beneficial in ways that you could never imagine.
Speaker 1: That's It's also a story about how there are unexpected
Speaker 1: consequences to colonizing a place and repercussions that one could
Speaker 1: never understand, and one of them is these these bears
Speaker 1: become fascinated with England, and then an earthquake strikes, sadly
Speaker 1: devastating the home of the bears, forcing the At this point,
Speaker 1: probably like ninety five year old ninety six year old
Speaker 1: and Lucy to send her a young nephew, Paddington to
Speaker 1: London because there everyone gets a home. It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets a home and all you need is you
Speaker 2: just need a mamalade sandwich, which the Explorer also introduced.
Speaker 2: And currently the bad does not have a name, but
Speaker 2: we know that he's Paddington because Michael Bond has been
Speaker 2: telling these stories for many years.
Speaker 1: Many many years, since the forties and the fifties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so here. So Paddington arrives at Paddington Station, which from
Speaker 1: which he will soon get his name, with a note
Speaker 1: around his next saying please look after this bear. You know,
Speaker 1: people just kind of ignore this very startling site, which
Speaker 1: I which is shy them up, which is kind of
Speaker 1: the charm of Paddington is like, oh okay, that's normal.
Speaker 1: That's a very normal thing to see.
Speaker 2: It's that mentality of like the New Yorkers who like
Speaker 2: wouldn't look twice at the Avengers. It's like that, but
Speaker 2: it's London. It's like everyone's just it's rush hour Paddington station.
Speaker 2: Everyone just wants to go. They seem to think he's
Speaker 2: some kind of street performer. They're just not interested. However,
Speaker 2: a certain family comes along and that changes all the Browns.
Speaker 1: Yes, so there is mister Brown dad, played wonderfully by
Speaker 1: Hugh bon Phil of Doubton Abbey, and it's the agency fame.
Speaker 1: He is, you know, don't talk to that bear, what
Speaker 1: does he want? He'll be fine, don't worry about him.
Speaker 1: Feels funny. He's might be dangerous, you know, he might
Speaker 1: be dangerous. And his wife, Missus Brown, is like, no,
Speaker 1: but this is so sad, and she reads the note.
Speaker 1: It's like we must do something. He's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't worry. So eventually she convinces him to take Paddington
Speaker 1: to their home where Paddington, you know, struggles with being
Speaker 1: in a urban home environment. A upper middle class, what
Speaker 1: would say, even wealthy. Here's the thing about a fantastical
Speaker 1: version love. This is a rich fucking family.
Speaker 2: You can even imagine First of all, where they they
Speaker 2: say they live in notting Hill, right, that's like where
Speaker 2: this is kind of set in general, and they do
Speaker 2: a great job of kind of representing the most eclectic
Speaker 2: and eccentric parts of London.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean this is like a ten million
Speaker 3: dollar house. They live in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like a t a million dollar house.
Speaker 2: And the best thing is the mom is like an artist.
Speaker 2: She's kind of like an illustrator for romance.
Speaker 3: Novels, I think.
Speaker 2: So the house is just painted in the most kind
Speaker 2: of cozy, outrageous like flowers on the wall, and I
Speaker 2: do think that part of the appeal of this franchise
Speaker 2: is just how gorgeously kind of comforting.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is Paddington doesn't have to deal with.
Speaker 2: Much stress outside of like not knowing at this point,
Speaker 2: not knowing like how to use a bath as we mentioned,
Speaker 2: which is a very famous and hilarious scene.
Speaker 1: I cut the iconic scene from Paddington. He's he's struggling
Speaker 1: to use the bathtub. He overfills, it floods the bathroom,
Speaker 1: the water bursts out of the door, and Paddington goes
Speaker 1: to bogganing down the beautiful spiral staircase. Again, this is
Speaker 1: a this is a looking beautiful sea house, beautiful home,
Speaker 1: goes spiraling down the staircase in this bathtub with a
Speaker 1: look of innocent surprise on its beautiful, cute little face.
Speaker 2: And somehow he doesn't get kicked out, Like that's the.
Speaker 1: Power sorry about the bathroom. I'm so sorry, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry about the flood, and he's so anomalate sandwich.
Speaker 2: He does a really good I think one of my
Speaker 2: favorite things about that scene is it's like.
Speaker 3: A Rube Goldberg machine.
Speaker 2: It's like he complishes teeth and then he falls down
Speaker 2: here and then and it becomes this kind of hilarious situation.
Speaker 2: And obviously mister Brown is understandably skeptical about keeping the
Speaker 2: bat in the house.
Speaker 1: So Paddington's mission becomes locating the explorer who came to
Speaker 1: visit them, whose hat he wears, and who he hopes
Speaker 1: might have some sort of answers about a permanent place
Speaker 1: where he can live forever, a home for himself that
Speaker 1: he might find, and the Browns help him with this,
Speaker 1: although mister Brown somewhat disgruntily, but the kids Jonathan Judy
Speaker 1: do it with much more alacrity. Meanwhile, Paddington's arrival in
Speaker 1: London has not gone unnoticed, notably by Millicent, who is
Speaker 1: the villain of the story. She is a taxidermist. She
Speaker 1: loves stuffing animals and people. Maybe we need to find
Speaker 1: it out later, potentially if they get it away and
Speaker 1: it really bothers her that years ago her ancestor returned
Speaker 1: from the the deepest, darkest jungles of Peru without a specimen,
Speaker 1: and she would like to rectify that situation by capturing Paddington,
Speaker 1: killing him and stuffing him, which is horrendous, yes.
Speaker 2: Very mean. Paddington is delightful and also I want to say, guys,
Speaker 2: Melicin is played by none other than Nicole Kidman, and
Speaker 2: what I would say is one of the kind of
Speaker 2: turning point weird roles of catapulted her to where we
Speaker 2: get baby girl Like this is such an over the top,
Speaker 2: fantastic kind of Bond villain role for her, and she's
Speaker 2: so much fun in it.
Speaker 1: She is wonderful in it. So Paddington finds out that
Speaker 1: the explorer is Montgomery Clyde and that he was shunned
Speaker 1: by the Explorers group that he was a part of
Speaker 1: because this group of very upright and fancy looters that
Speaker 1: went around the world just kind of marauding and looting
Speaker 1: and grabbing things. Bringing him back to jolly ol England
Speaker 1: when he ran into these bears, you know, they were civilized,
Speaker 1: they spoke, they were clearly intelligent and sent me in
Speaker 1: beings they are wonderful. We just like to hang out
Speaker 1: and beat marmalade and to waylay one and put it
Speaker 1: in a cage and drag it back to England. That
Speaker 1: seemed frankly to be barbaric. However, the scientific community of
Speaker 1: his day, or like one, talking bears, get the fight.
Speaker 1: We don't believe this. This is ridiculous, like what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. And two, you know the rules. You got
Speaker 1: to bring back the specimen. Where's the specimen? And so
Speaker 1: they shun him. Paddington reaches a low moment, feeling like
Speaker 1: he's causing so much trouble for the Browns and their
Speaker 1: home and all this trouble with the Finding Explorer and
Speaker 1: destroying their ten million dollar home with two or three
Speaker 1: million dollars worth of water damage, amongst many other things
Speaker 1: that have occurred, and he feels like, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go out on my own. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: look for the explore Montgomery Clyde on my own, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave the Browns behind. He leaves them
Speaker 1: a very heartfelt note that tugs at the heartstrings. The kids,
Speaker 1: Missus Brown are absolutely fucking devastated at this. Mister Brown
Speaker 1: is like well, okay, there's a big he's a bear
Speaker 1: from the jungle, like, you'll, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I've spent a.
Speaker 1: Lot of time trying to figure out how exactly long
Speaker 1: Paddington was on his own, and I think it was
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: I really was quite a while. Yeah, from from the
Speaker 3: way the movie is for sure.
Speaker 1: Because there's a month. There's an entire montage in which
Speaker 1: you see all the addresses and places that Paddington found,
Speaker 1: you know, from the phone book of listenings from Montgomery Clyde,
Speaker 1: and he crosses them all out, and there's you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a dozen or so or a little less than
Speaker 1: a dozen something around there. And let's say he did
Speaker 1: like one a night or one every couple of nights.
Speaker 1: That's all of a sudden, he's out there a week
Speaker 1: and a half, two weeks on his own, living by
Speaker 1: his wits in the alleyways and the streets. It made
Speaker 1: me very, very sad. This is a movie where watching it,
Speaker 1: I could tell that when I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: would have needed a parent figure to lean over to
Speaker 1: me and be like, it's gonna don't worry about yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay, Because I would have been very
Speaker 1: troubled at the idea that Paddington was just like out
Speaker 1: on the streets for weeks. M Well, the Browns now
Speaker 1: find that though their house is severely damaged, it's also
Speaker 1: less lively without Patton.
Speaker 2: Because you don't have a talking bear in your house anymore.
Speaker 2: That's magical.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 1: There's something of the light has gone out of the
Speaker 1: home somehow, and so they decide we must find Paddington,
Speaker 1: who has by this time fallen into the clutches of
Speaker 1: milicit who again plans to stuff and there's a wonderful
Speaker 1: adventure sequence. They find her in the Natural History Museum. Paddington,
Speaker 1: who is quite naive and innocent at times, but he's
Speaker 1: also quite He's a survivor, and he's very very He
Speaker 1: manages to escape and they ultimately defeat of Millicent, who
Speaker 1: is arrested for her crime. She only gets community service,
Speaker 1: which is fine. I guess you know what. She didn't
Speaker 1: threaten to kill the Browns and Paddington.
Speaker 2: But I will say this, but you know I will
Speaker 2: say this is this does start a thread that will
Speaker 2: continue to the second movie of these films, being like
Speaker 2: relatively interesting when it comes to the idea of crime
Speaker 2: and punishment.
Speaker 1: Prison reform, Paddington, Yes, the prison Passington. So the end
Speaker 1: of this, oh I should add that there is in
Speaker 1: the confrontation scene, as we're kind of ramping up to
Speaker 1: the final exciting sequence after which Milicent will be defeated,
Speaker 1: mister Brown gives an incredible speech that he ya fucking
Speaker 1: sells all the way about. And the speech is really
Speaker 1: ultimately the message of the film, because I think part
Speaker 1: of part of what's so great about Paddington is it's
Speaker 1: basically about an Englishman who doesn't like people or beings
Speaker 1: from other places coming to England and living and ultimately
Speaker 1: mister Brown decides, you know what, that's not true. Paddington
Speaker 1: is a bear, but he's part of this family and
Speaker 1: I love him and he has added so much to
Speaker 1: our lives even though he's different. And he gives this
Speaker 1: wonderful speech about that and how they're going to defend Paddington.
Speaker 1: And so the end of the movie is a wonderful,
Speaker 1: like three four minute sequence that plays out very much
Speaker 1: is shot very much like a book in which Paddington
Speaker 1: has found his home, his his forever home really with
Speaker 1: the Browns, and there he is in the kitchen cooking
Speaker 1: up marmalade, Missus Brown wonderfully. He's like, what are you doing? Padding?
Speaker 1: What's cooking Paddington? What do you think? It's fucking marmalade?
Speaker 1: What the fuck do you think it's all I eat?
Speaker 3: Is Marvela's marmalay?
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: Actually, also perfect time to bring up the fact that.
Speaker 2: In that very same Karen Knightley interview where he revealed
Speaker 2: he was Paddington, then, as Aaron pointed out, ben wishe
Speaker 2: Olster revealed he doesn't like mamalade. It's just to yourself, babe.
Speaker 1: It's very sweet. And at the end of that close
Speaker 1: Paddington writes to his beloved aunt Lucy, telling her that
Speaker 1: while London is very different from Peru, he's getting the
Speaker 1: hang of it now and he feels like he has
Speaker 1: a place and it's wonderful and let's talk for a
Speaker 1: little bit about what we say. I think this movie
Speaker 1: is one of the great children's movies of our time.
Speaker 1: I agree, And it's just so special, like it hits
Speaker 1: all the notes that you need from a kid's film.
Speaker 1: It works for adults on various levels because of the
Speaker 1: deeper messaging, the fact that the Paddington series is one
Speaker 1: hundred years old, almost one hundred years old at this point,
Speaker 1: so it's got generations of fans. And for kids, it's emotional,
Speaker 1: deeply emotional, but it's not too intense. They are always
Speaker 1: these moments where they return to Paddington's faces if to
Speaker 1: tell you it's gonna be fine, like they always do,
Speaker 1: like a thing, Yeah, first kind of scary thing where
Speaker 1: it doesn't get too scary and you realize by the
Speaker 1: way they shoot Paddington it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's feel very emotionally like intense, and also you feel
Speaker 1: it deeply.
Speaker 2: I think that something that makes these movies really stand
Speaker 2: out is if we think about the way that kids
Speaker 2: films and TV. I almost said content. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: train myself out of that word. But like the way
Speaker 2: that people make entertainment for kids. There has always been nuance,
Speaker 2: fantastic entertainment for kids. But when we think about a
Speaker 2: contemporary reboot of an existing character, because there's already Paddington books,
Speaker 2: Paddington animated series, all that kind of stuff, we think
Speaker 2: about something like.
Speaker 3: The Garfield movie with Chris Pratt.
Speaker 2: That like nobody really watched and it changed everything about Garfield.
Speaker 3: He's no longer lazy. He doesn't like Lazanne. Now he's
Speaker 3: like a street smart cat, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: But like I think a lot of people were surprised
Speaker 2: because this movie kind of came out of nowhere and
Speaker 2: it had a wit and a charm and a world.
Speaker 3: That you wanted to live in.
Speaker 2: And like you said, the way they shoot Paddington makes
Speaker 2: you feel like he's really there, that the Assing team
Speaker 2: are unbelievable. You never ever question anything that you're seeing
Speaker 2: on screen. I would say this is the way they utilize.
Speaker 3: And immerse you in the world.
Speaker 2: Means there's not even really a suspension of disbelief. You
Speaker 2: just feel like Paddington is a real character.
Speaker 3: Then you want to meet him.
Speaker 1: He's great, he's there, wonderful.
Speaker 2: And I do think this this movie went relatively under
Speaker 2: the radar. It was it was a quiet film. It
Speaker 2: was a quiet film, but it was pretty successful. There
Speaker 2: was a lot of nominations in England. It won Best
Speaker 2: Comedy Film at the Empire Awards. If you're a film lover,
Speaker 2: you probably know Empire Magazine. The Bafter Children's Awards, it
Speaker 2: won Best Feature Film and it was kind of but
Speaker 2: still it was like it made its money back, made
Speaker 2: enough that there would be a sequel. But it was
Speaker 2: not necessarily a cultural phenomenon. It was more something that
Speaker 2: you discovered. I discovered it when I moved here actually,
Speaker 2: which was like two years after.
Speaker 3: It came out.
Speaker 1: Same I discovered it about a year later when it
Speaker 1: was when people why trust it would be like, it
Speaker 1: is really good, that's.
Speaker 3: Really good, Like you gotta watch this. This is like
Speaker 3: some cozy vibe, you know what. It definitely I think
Speaker 3: that it was.
Speaker 2: It was an entertainment weekly where they basically compared it
Speaker 2: to like a Muppets movie, but in the style of
Speaker 2: Where's Anderson?
Speaker 3: And I loved that much. I was very mad cap,
Speaker 3: very charming.
Speaker 2: It's an ensemble piece, and it was just a delightful movie.
Speaker 3: I am a big fan of it. I was very
Speaker 3: happy when.
Speaker 2: We started talking about these movies because we're covering them
Speaker 2: in the lead up to the third one, which comes
Speaker 2: out in America on Valentine's.
Speaker 3: And it did it exactly.
Speaker 1: He's back and he's imparing baby.
Speaker 2: I think it's very unique to find someone else and
Speaker 2: this just goes along with our eternal gift and struggle
Speaker 2: that we agree.
Speaker 3: With everything about everything together.
Speaker 2: But yes, it's actually very bad to find someone who
Speaker 2: thinks this movie is better. I do love this movie,
Speaker 2: and I do think it is the better movie. But
Speaker 2: Paddington Too was a cultural phenomenon. And we'll be talking
Speaker 2: about Paddington Too in a moment after.
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Speaker 1: In Paddington Too, which came out in twenty seven teen,
Speaker 1: written again and directed by Paul King with some writing
Speaker 1: help by Simon Farnabye, the your original cast is back
Speaker 1: with the addition of the wonderful Hugh Grant, who is
Speaker 1: this was like as a villain?
Speaker 2: People were really talking about a Hugh Grant oscar run
Speaker 2: for this one. It's wonderful the Oscars represented the general
Speaker 2: film going audience a little bit more that might have happened.
Speaker 2: And also this is the start of Hugh Grant in
Speaker 2: his villain era, which he is now embracing with roles
Speaker 2: Imprestige TV, obviously most recently the a twenty four horror
Speaker 2: movie Heretic, And it is just such a delight to
Speaker 2: see him here. We also get another legendary actor in
Speaker 2: Brendan Gleeson, who dislike.
Speaker 3: For roles in this film.
Speaker 2: And yeah, this was a movie that I saw legitimately
Speaker 2: take over film with film critic spaces and just bought
Speaker 2: a lot of people a lot of joy. And that's
Speaker 2: the point of Paddington. So I yeah, I love this
Speaker 2: movie too.
Speaker 1: So Paddington when we open the film, is quite settled
Speaker 1: in in notting Hill, not just with the Browns, but
Speaker 1: in the surrounding neighborhood where everybody loves to see him.
Speaker 1: People love to talk to him, people love when he
Speaker 1: shows up. He's feeding a stray dog in the alley.
Speaker 1: He's having a grand all time, and he is part
Speaker 1: of the community. He's writing to his aunt every day.
Speaker 1: She's about to turn a hundred, which is a big
Speaker 1: deal for a bear. He funnily thinks mister Brown might
Speaker 1: be eighty, considering his aunt is one hundred and so
Speaker 1: he's thinking about a gift for her. And when he
Speaker 1: goes to a neighbor's antique shop, he finds this beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful imagination tickling pop up book of London and begins
Speaker 1: imagining what it would be like to give this to
Speaker 1: her and to be able to show her all the
Speaker 1: landmarks of the city through it.
Speaker 2: A wonderful It was so beautifully designed, gorgeously. I want
Speaker 2: a real version, and I love.
Speaker 3: The antique shop setting too.
Speaker 2: Jim Brawd Fence mister Gruber is definitely like one of
Speaker 2: Paddington's kind of best friends, and I love that it
Speaker 2: really invokes that feeling of when you're a little kid
Speaker 2: and you go into kind of an antique bookstore for
Speaker 2: the first time, and you truly believe that in the
Speaker 2: hallowed halls of this dusty old shop you could find
Speaker 2: the real, never ending story book that will take you,
Speaker 2: you know, on this magical journey. This is very much
Speaker 2: one of those spaces where if you were young and
Speaker 2: naive and looking out in the world in a magical way,
Speaker 2: as Paddington always does, it feels like magic can happen.
Speaker 2: And the way they shoot this pop up book makes
Speaker 2: you feel like that.
Speaker 1: I love I just love the the introduction of the
Speaker 1: pop up book, and Jim Broadbent is wonderful. Got slug
Speaker 1: Horn and Moody in this.
Speaker 3: Film, right.
Speaker 2: This is if you go British, you're gonna get a
Speaker 2: lot you're getting, it's happening.
Speaker 1: So Paddington needs money. The Browns, of course, are fantastically rich,
Speaker 1: although mister Brown got passed over for a recent promotion
Speaker 1: which has caused a midlife crisis of so he's taking yoga,
Speaker 1: he's taking all which will come in handy later. And
Speaker 1: so nobody's like gonna give Paddington some cash, even though
Speaker 1: come on, mister Brown, like give it. I get that
Speaker 1: he should work, and that's fine. So he goes out
Speaker 1: and he does some odd jobs and it's, you know,
Speaker 1: trademark Paddington mad Cap Adventures and sue as he does
Speaker 1: the jobs in that kind of slapstick way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Boba gag, The Bobba gag is always gags
Speaker 2: in This definitely feels like a direct reference to one
Speaker 2: of my favorite Marx Brothers gags, which is there cutting
Speaker 2: they're doing barbering on a cruise ship when the powber
Speaker 2: is asleep or something. But there's definitely some really good
Speaker 2: nods to classic comedy here. Obviously, window cleaner never a
Speaker 2: good job if you're a clumsy person like me and Paddington.
Speaker 2: I could have told them that. But yeah, so so
Speaker 2: funny and those are you really get those big broad
Speaker 2: comedy moments early, because this film is definitely more concerned
Speaker 2: with kind of making an emotional and moral point as
Speaker 2: it continues on.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so, Paddington is quite close to being able to
Speaker 1: purchase this book when it is stolen in the night
Speaker 1: by a thief who is dressed in a quite a
Speaker 1: unique manner. And he's got a long beard and kind
Speaker 1: of like a sloppy hat, not dissimilar to Paddington's hat,
Speaker 1: and he's wearing this long kind of like fisherman's overcoat,
Speaker 1: and he steals the the book. Paddington gets a good
Speaker 1: look at him, but is not able to catch the guy. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: nobody believes Paddington. The Browns believe him, but nobody else
Speaker 1: believes him when he tries to raise this story and
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's paw prints everywhere around the store
Speaker 1: and marmalade tracks and uh uh it really was the thief,
Speaker 1: that's right, But it really looks like Paddington did this,
Speaker 1: and so he gets ten years in prison.
Speaker 3: Watches Fuck, come on, I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This is very this is very prescient to the weld
Speaker 2: right now, Like they gave this baby ten years for
Speaker 2: accusing him of the prison, an adult prison, of stealing
Speaker 2: a simple pop up book and guessing there is no evidence,
Speaker 2: there's no evidence. This is all circumstantial. But you know what,
Speaker 2: that shit happens every day, baby, And yet the millionaires
Speaker 2: and the billionaires and the capitalist that's stealing your.
Speaker 3: Tax money all the time, and they're never gonna go
Speaker 3: to prison. But guess who is that.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a robbery ongoing, lots of.
Speaker 2: Rocking people and sweet Mamalade lovers like Paddington as they
Speaker 2: don't even know.
Speaker 1: And you know what, the prison doesn't understand what they're
Speaker 1: in for because they're from Marmalade. Baby. Yeah, Paddington gets
Speaker 1: to prison and it's really not too long before he
Speaker 1: starts making it a much gentler, nicer, more sonny place.
Speaker 1: He quickly falls in with Knuckles McGuinty, who is the
Speaker 1: cook and something of a respected figure within the prison itself.
Speaker 1: And when he introduces Knuckles to Marmalade, Knuckles is knocked
Speaker 1: out and he says, this bear is under my personal protection.
Speaker 1: Nobody is to touch a hair on this bear's head,
Speaker 1: to which there is some there is some clear sadness
Speaker 1: amongst the prison population, they won't be able to beat
Speaker 1: up this bear, and Knuckles is like, but here's the deal, Paddington.
Speaker 1: You got to make the marmalade. You got to be
Speaker 1: in here with me making the marmalade so that we
Speaker 1: can keep it.
Speaker 2: This is the importance of having delicious fresh food in prison.
Speaker 3: It can change people's lives. He just needed some oranges
Speaker 3: and some sugar, and he said, these men deserve to
Speaker 3: eat deliciously.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Brown family is convinced, I mean, they know
Speaker 1: Pats Pattings is not a thief. Come on, and so
Speaker 1: they go on a manhunt trying to discover who the
Speaker 1: thief is. It's very interesting because the patent and family
Speaker 1: has been kind of going through it. As mentioned, so,
Speaker 1: mister Brown lost his job and is deep in the
Speaker 1: throes of a midlife crisis. He's doing all sorts of
Speaker 1: like wellness things and getting into yoga and doing and
Speaker 1: getting into stuff like that. Young Judy Brown has become
Speaker 1: a newspaper entrepreneur, like a media mogul kind of. She's
Speaker 1: very interested in telling the news around her town. And
Speaker 1: she's also had a break up with her boyfriend that
Speaker 1: we met at the end of last film and has
Speaker 1: kind of turned her very much like I hate men
Speaker 1: right now. No men were not dealing with it. Then
Speaker 1: there is a young Jonathan Jay Dog who loves trains,
Speaker 1: loves steam engines, and Pattingson used to help him with
Speaker 1: his train set, but understands that, like at the age
Speaker 1: is at, which is like maybe twelve thirteen, it's not
Speaker 1: cool to be a lover of model trains, and so
Speaker 1: he's like reinvented himself as this like rapper slash dj
Speaker 1: J Doog. So that's the kind of things that are
Speaker 1: going on in the.
Speaker 3: Brown Household while Paddington.
Speaker 1: And they're missing him because Paddington was the one who
Speaker 1: kind of taught everybody how to be themselves, and so
Speaker 1: they decide, okay, well, we're gonna find out who this
Speaker 1: actual thief is and are going to discover who is.
Speaker 1: They discover who is, they discover that it's Phoenix Buchanan,
Speaker 1: a kind of down on his heels actor who is
Speaker 1: still quite famous but hasn't been really working a lot, yeah,
Speaker 1: and is very arrogant and narcissistic. And it turns out
Speaker 1: that the book to the fucking Book has it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. But there's like clues to treasure in the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the age of the locations that look so magical
Speaker 2: to Paddington are hints and clues to hidden treasure.
Speaker 3: That's your kind of mcguffin.
Speaker 2: Also, I love this Hugh Grant role because this is
Speaker 2: such a specific English kind of trope of a person,
Speaker 2: which is, if you've seen Matt Berry's fantastic show Toast
Speaker 2: of London, you get to see a lot of kind
Speaker 2: of Phoenix buchanans. There is a whole trade and community
Speaker 2: of working actors in London who are always the secondary
Speaker 2: person in off you know, not Broadway but Off Chance.
Speaker 3: Rey Lay and Show or whatever like that. Always working.
Speaker 2: They're always doing bit parts in movies, but they never
Speaker 2: make it, and they hang around these arts clubs and
Speaker 2: arts bars and kind of bitterly chew on the fact
Speaker 2: that they are not the biggest name.
Speaker 3: And this is such a fun specific role.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that Hugh Grant has met many people
Speaker 2: like Phoenix throughout his life, and they get to have
Speaker 2: a lot of fun with costumes.
Speaker 1: Here's a lot of fun swimming it up. There's a
Speaker 1: wonderful sequence in which mister and Missus brown sneak into
Speaker 1: his home. They break in under using a ruse, a
Speaker 1: wonderful ruse in which the kids tape a conversation with
Speaker 1: an agent with Phoenix's agent and then using two tape recorders,
Speaker 1: cut up the conversation so that it seems like mister
Speaker 1: Buchanan has an opportunity to maybe be in a in
Speaker 1: a stage play and a passion of stage play if
Speaker 1: he will meet this producer for lunch. So he rushes
Speaker 1: out of the house. Mister and mister brown sneak into
Speaker 1: the house where they find his layer of disguises, and
Speaker 1: there are all the disguises that he's been using, the nun,
Speaker 1: the thief, etc.
Speaker 3: The resputes in Beard.
Speaker 1: So the Browns, of course have been visiting Paddington regularly,
Speaker 1: every visiting time they are there, and Paddington has come
Speaker 1: to depend on these emotionally. And when he learns that
Speaker 1: the Browns have zeroed in on Buchanan, Paddington suddenly allows
Speaker 1: his head to get turned by a scheme of escape
Speaker 1: that has been masterminded by Knuckles and the others. And
Speaker 1: they lay it on Thick too, and they're like, well, listen,
Speaker 1: when you're out, you'll be able to prove your innocence,
Speaker 1: and we will help you with that when we get
Speaker 1: when we all get out, prisoner's got to stick together.
Speaker 1: And when we get out, you know, our number one
Speaker 1: thing is not going to be fleeing the country or
Speaker 1: escaping or evading the authorities. It's going to be proving
Speaker 1: that our friend Paddington, who showed us the importance of marmalade,
Speaker 1: is innocent them. I believe them too. So the Browns
Speaker 1: follow you can to a steam train. There's very mission
Speaker 1: impossible as the mission impossible style ending. Paddington has escaped,
Speaker 1: but is immediately betrayed by Knuckles and the gang. We
Speaker 1: just leave him, no very very sad moment. Paddington goes
Speaker 1: by himself to the train, and the Browns and Paddington
Speaker 1: kind of independently are closing in on Buchanan. There's an
Speaker 1: incredible act. I mean, this is like a long twenty
Speaker 1: minute action sequence of ups and downs and chases.
Speaker 3: There's a carnival train that following.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things happen.
Speaker 3: They're on a real fat like a real train that
Speaker 3: is like an L N. E. R.
Speaker 2: Peppicorn closs a one which I feel like they had
Speaker 2: to put in because the case loves tradings, so.
Speaker 3: They were like, you better put a real train in
Speaker 3: HI for the train spas.
Speaker 1: That's one of the things that I think is great
Speaker 1: about Pattinson. Want to continue to be great about Paddington too.
Speaker 1: Is This is gonna sound crazy, but a lot like
Speaker 1: the of the Marvels the Avengers that has a huge cast.
Speaker 1: Every character gets their little closed loop momkh So Jonathan
Speaker 1: his love of trains is paid off when he takes
Speaker 1: control of this steam engine train that he knows exactly
Speaker 1: how to run. All throughout it, Judy has been using
Speaker 1: her reportage skills to zero in on mister Buchanan and
Speaker 1: mister Brown in a very Jackie chan esque sequence, uses
Speaker 1: his newfound flexibility from his like the yoga classes, has
Speaker 1: been taken to go into a full split between two
Speaker 1: moving trains that allows him to like almost falling off
Speaker 1: the train. It's delightful anyway. It all comes to a
Speaker 1: head when Paddington, trapped in a train car, is nearly drowned.
Speaker 1: Very very scary moments because Paddington is like unconscious. He
Speaker 1: comes to in the hospital, but it's fine when he
Speaker 1: wakes up. The Browns are like, guess what, You've been
Speaker 1: cleared of all charges.
Speaker 3: You're free.
Speaker 2: And also you're free to go because your friends Knuckles,
Speaker 2: Fibbs and Spoon actually did show up at the end
Speaker 2: of the house, right they show you they've been Potton, baby,
Speaker 2: they've been Pott and so it's all good.
Speaker 3: Everything's good.
Speaker 1: That is such, by the way, like a kid's book thing.
Speaker 1: And I love that they just kept it, where in
Speaker 1: an adult movie they'd be like, okay, now let's see
Speaker 1: the courtroom scenes in which Paddington is cleared. Now they're
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, nowhere met He's fine.
Speaker 3: And friends then and Jay, But everything's okay.
Speaker 1: So Paddington, though sadly does not have a present for
Speaker 1: Aunt Lucy's one hundredth birthday, but the Browns just surprised
Speaker 1: him by bringing Aunt Lucy to London. And you get
Speaker 1: this truly like tear tugging moment in which Paddington and
Speaker 1: his less surviving relative embrace and it's beautiful and the
Speaker 1: community is there. Everybody's everybody, And then.
Speaker 2: You get this hilarious you know, you see that Knuckles
Speaker 2: has started a sandwich restaurant which becomes incredibly successful. Love
Speaker 2: that for him, and then in probably what will go
Speaker 2: down for most kind of Hollywood folks as their resounding
Speaker 2: memory of this movie is Buchanan sentenced to tenires in prison,
Speaker 2: and within six months he has got the entire prison
Speaker 2: doing elaborate musical numbers.
Speaker 1: Including the kind of iconic trademark number from the Beetlejuice
Speaker 1: film Rack Your Buddy in Time, Okay, I believe you,
Speaker 1: which I was very surprised to see in this film.
Speaker 1: And Paddington Too. I love it one better because of
Speaker 1: I think just the initial surprise at how much I
Speaker 1: liked the movie. Immediately it'd be.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, me too, and that is an infinitely rewatchable
Speaker 2: movie to me. I have rewatched this too, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's such a good movie. And then this was a
Speaker 2: crazy kind of smash hit that took the franchise in
Speaker 2: general to like over a two hundred million dollar box
Speaker 2: office franchise, and you get these things. Paddington Too, named
Speaker 2: one of the best movies of the twenty first century
Speaker 2: by The Guardian. NBC's Grand Crew produced an entire episode
Speaker 2: that was solely based around how Paddington two made the
Speaker 2: male characters cry. And then probably the most famous and
Speaker 2: mimable moment is in the Nick Cage Pedro Pascal Twohanda,
Speaker 2: the unvariable Weight of Massive Talent.
Speaker 3: There is a moment where the two of them are.
Speaker 2: Together at this rich compound watching movies and they're talking
Speaker 2: about their favorite movies, and the Pedro Pascal character is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I love the Cabinet of Doctor Caligari, I love Felini,
Speaker 2: and my.
Speaker 3: Third favorite movie is Paddington two, and Nick Cage is like,
Speaker 3: shut up, like what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: And then you cut to them watching it and it's
Speaker 2: the end and Nick Cage is crying talking about how
Speaker 2: much he loves Paddington too and how it kind of
Speaker 2: changed his mind. So the cultural impact of these movies
Speaker 2: has really gone beyond the small children's audience in Britain
Speaker 2: that I'm sure they were they were made for.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful and that sets us up, of course, for
Speaker 1: Paddington three, Paddington in Peru, which is coming out in
Speaker 1: the States February fourteenth, Emily Mortimer now taking the role
Speaker 1: as Mary Brown. But otherwise it seems like everybody else
Speaker 1: will be there, including a live Coleman and Antonio Barnderis.
Speaker 3: Characters, and uh, I can't wait excited.
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: It was already out in England when I was there
Speaker 2: in December, but my nephew had already gone to see it.
Speaker 2: He was like, it's great, it's very emotional, and I
Speaker 2: was like okay, and then I didn't get a chance
Speaker 2: to see it. So now I had to wait like
Speaker 2: every other person who lives in America. And I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: I think what a fun Valentine's they treat. I'll be
Speaker 2: interested to see if this has a much bigger opening
Speaker 2: than expected, just because of how popular Paddington Too became.
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's entering the not the heights
Speaker 1: of this but in the kind of same zone as
Speaker 1: like Toy Story, in that.
Speaker 2: It like everyone knows they yeah, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: What are your favorite we're talking about an anthropomorphic bear
Speaker 1: bear cub well, I hope never ages stop growing. I
Speaker 1: don't don't make him old, nobody wants to make we
Speaker 1: don't want to see it all Paddington. But what are
Speaker 1: some of your favorite anthropomorphic animal films? I love this one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this one.
Speaker 2: Paddington is definitely up there for me. I am also
Speaker 2: gonna I will say that I think for me it
Speaker 2: was such a huge deal when I was a kid
Speaker 2: when I did first watch Stewart Little So I'm definitely
Speaker 2: gonna add that one in there. That was calm and
Speaker 2: super producer's pick.
Speaker 3: But I think that was like me and my sister
Speaker 3: watched that one a lot.
Speaker 2: I think when I really consider all the different movies
Speaker 2: in this space, though, I do think Paddington is up
Speaker 2: there at the top for me.
Speaker 3: What about you? What what are the anthropomorphic or even
Speaker 3: just like cute animal movies?
Speaker 2: I feel like they always have that melancholic edge, you know,
Speaker 2: like a homeward bound. There's always something sad about the
Speaker 2: ones we grew up with, and I think Paddington's quite
Speaker 2: nice because they usually wrap up in that kid's book
Speaker 2: type way.
Speaker 1: Like you said, yeah, I love I really do love
Speaker 1: that about Paddington. It's like, at every moment where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this might be too scary. What if Paddingson legitimately dies
Speaker 1: during this trade sequence, there's always various cues where it's
Speaker 1: whether it's lighting or just the shots or something funny
Speaker 1: will happen that that signals alright, it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: And I agree with you a lot of the similar
Speaker 1: movies that we grew up with didn't have that. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick one from my childhood that is looking bad.
Speaker 1: It was like much more intense than Paddington, but I
Speaker 1: loved it. And The Secret of nim.
Speaker 2: Yes, Rats, Oh, that movie is absolutely bonkers when you
Speaker 2: rewatch it as an adult. It's actually really intense and
Speaker 2: crazy and like kind of violent and nuts, but sci fi,
Speaker 2: hardcore sci fi about the society of rats that have
Speaker 2: that are very very smart and they are doing things that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil the mystery in case anybody needs.
Speaker 2: If you haven't watched it, definitely go and watch it.
Speaker 1: It's a good one. Well any others.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up one
Speaker 2: that I did only really discover as an adult, which
Speaker 2: does definitely lean into the intense vibes, which is air Butt,
Speaker 2: because you don't think a movie about a dog playing
Speaker 2: basketball is gonna start with the death of someone's parent,
Speaker 2: but it does, and they're like playing basketball.
Speaker 3: By the graveyard like that one's really good.
Speaker 2: Probably as a kid, my favorites were Babe and Babe
Speaker 2: Pig in the City. Both of those incredible, incredible movies.
Speaker 1: Those are probably two of the c to Paddington. I mean,
Speaker 1: Babe Is is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And Baby Pig in the City is actually terrifying.
Speaker 2: And that is, you know, people forget that that movie
Speaker 2: was directed, you know, by no other than George Miller,
Speaker 2: A mad Max Fame.
Speaker 1: Big in the City, in Fame, the Wonderful Babe.
Speaker 2: Babe Pig in the City is at the beginning, you
Speaker 2: get that same crisis of like why does he need
Speaker 2: to leave? And it's because Babe accidentally knocks the farmer
Speaker 2: down the well and breaks like all of his bones and.
Speaker 3: Then he's like, Okay, I gotta leave. I gotta go
Speaker 3: to the I gotta go to the city man. But
Speaker 3: it's very like Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2: It's very weird to see these worlds of like an
Speaker 2: human city but just inhabited only by like weird talking animals.
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's something very strange.
Speaker 2: About a talking animal movie that is usually deeply unsettling.
Speaker 2: But I do think that is what Paddington does so
Speaker 2: well is instead they may make it an animal that
Speaker 2: you want to hang around with, You want to spend
Speaker 2: time with him, you want to help him out, you
Speaker 2: want him to be in your house, and it doesn't
Speaker 2: even raise a question like Stuart Little, which obviously the
Speaker 2: Internet has a lot of fun with nowadays, which is like,
Speaker 2: imagine if you were in the orphanage and Stuart Little
Speaker 2: was there a mouse or as I believe in the Cannon,
Speaker 2: a boy who just looks like a tiny mouse, and
Speaker 2: then a family came and they were like, well, fuck
Speaker 2: all of you orphans who need a place to live,
Speaker 2: I'm adopting this mouse.
Speaker 3: You know, that's like a wild setup for a movie.
Speaker 2: Paddington doesn't have any of that, because, of course, if
Speaker 2: you met a bear that was talking and wearing a
Speaker 2: cute little red hat, you would just let him move
Speaker 2: in with you, like there's no suspension of disbelief needed.
Speaker 1: I'm going to name drop what I think is maybe
Speaker 1: the most the og anthromorphic animal story and perhaps still
Speaker 1: the most devastating Charlotte's Web bo.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a killer. It's like you're gonna cry.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 1: That will break you as a child, and film will
Speaker 1: just absolutely reduce you to rubble. And indeed, to this day,
Speaker 1: i'm it's still like if it's on or it's just
Speaker 1: hard to watch the end. Although it ends on a
Speaker 1: hopeful note.
Speaker 3: It is still still though it's a really tough movie.
Speaker 1: It's very, very tough. And I will say that for
Speaker 1: those of you not seen a Patenton film, Paddington never
Speaker 1: goes to that. No, that's well, I think that never
Speaker 1: never goes there.
Speaker 2: I think that's why it's so fantastical, because Paddington is
Speaker 2: not in any way supposed.
Speaker 3: To be a real bear.
Speaker 2: You know, he is Paddington. So in these movies a
Speaker 2: lot of times it's like, well, if you become friends
Speaker 2: with an animal or something that has a shorter lifespan
Speaker 2: than you, than it probably is gonna die and you
Speaker 2: have to deal with that because that's real life. Paddington's like, No,
Speaker 2: what if you were just like really chilled to anyone
Speaker 2: and there were no borders and you just let people
Speaker 2: move into your house, and you'd let a cute bear
Speaker 2: move into your house and everything was good and the
Speaker 2: community comes together and supports each other. That I'm so
Speaker 2: happy that kids nowadays have that instead of being forced
Speaker 2: to watch like Watership Down.
Speaker 1: Same, oh don't they don't get involved in Watership Down
Speaker 1: for us? Well, in the next few episodes of It's incredible,
Speaker 1: but just understand it's not for kids.
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