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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 1: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 1: was foolish.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh good day two you.

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Speaker 5: Monday November nineteenth, twenty eighteen, Thanksgiving week for many of

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Speaker 5: US Americans, so the Fox Sports crew at least three

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Speaker 5: fourths of them, I think in studio today Ken Flows

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Speaker 5: back in Los Angeles, and if you bet the proposition

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Speaker 5: that Ken Flow would be wearing a hat to begin

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Speaker 5: the show today, cash those tickets, Ladies and gentlemen. It's

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Speaker 5: the spoke Bee. So we're proud you're repping the Boston Bruins. Dude,

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Speaker 5: what's up with the lettuce? On television this weekend? I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to bury the lead.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, there's a reason I got the hat on.

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Speaker 6: I mean, ken Frow was in full effect.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I did.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have time. I came from Boston last minute.

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Speaker 6: Didn't have time for a haircut, and man, I feel

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Speaker 6: like I had it under control with the way and show,

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Speaker 6: but it was at the pre and post Vice show

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Speaker 6: where it just I mean, i'll hell broke loose so

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Speaker 6: that the hair was all over the place.

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Speaker 5: Kid, oh those last eighteen hours. See, I don't know

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Speaker 5: that reality, right. I am a man, but I have

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Speaker 5: been cutting my hair off.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was bicking my head bald at fourteen years old,

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Speaker 5: So I don't understand what it's like to be in

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Speaker 5: a situation where it's like, oh shit, I'm on TV.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have time to get my haircut.

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Speaker 5: Just shave my head, you know, like we were in

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Speaker 5: Australia calling Tiago Albaz Martin Cammon back in the day,

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Speaker 5: and my clippers I was cutting my hair caught on fire.

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Speaker 5: I bicked my head with a razor and I went

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Speaker 5: on TV. Obviously you can't do that. Your hair pays

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Speaker 5: the bills. I understand that but I did. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I couldn't even watch the postfight show. I was so

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Speaker 5: distracted by your hair.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not going to pretend to be anywhere

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Speaker 6: close to a model, but the hair kind of saves me. Kid,

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Speaker 6: if I have a shaved head, like it's discussing your

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Speaker 6: repulse just looking at me.

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Speaker 1: The hair. The hair just.

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Speaker 6: Helps just that little bit where he's like, he's not

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Speaker 6: completely disgusting, He's just a little bit, which is good.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I like to give you a hard time because

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Speaker 5: nobody takes it better than you. And at least the

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Speaker 5: wardrobe was on point, you know, yeah, fashion forward and

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Speaker 5: everything else. But all right, So a lot to get

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Speaker 5: to today. Ray long Go is back. I spoke with

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Speaker 5: him this morning. He is excited to be back, and

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Speaker 5: I know he appreciated the response from all of you

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Speaker 5: after the passing of his mother. And we also got

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Speaker 5: picks coming up on Beijing this weekend. We didn't want

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Speaker 5: to go dark for you Thanksgiving week. So a quick

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Speaker 5: show today. Let's get to it, and let's start with

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Speaker 5: a UFC main event flow that, as usual, has a

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Speaker 5: lot of different layers to it. Santiago Pons and Ebio

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Speaker 5: over Neil Magne, and I think you got to start

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Speaker 5: with Santiago Pons and Ebio's performance and the body of

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Speaker 5: work overall in the UFC, but not that this is

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Speaker 5: a signature win for him, right, because I still would

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Speaker 5: argue that the Gunner Nelson win is more of a

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Speaker 5: signature win resume wise. But this was a near perfect

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Speaker 5: performance and he got the finish, he got the bonus

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Speaker 5: and certainly put himself on the short list of contenders,

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Speaker 5: which was the goal going in Saturday Night.

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Speaker 6: You know, I would agree with you partially on the

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Speaker 6: Gutter Nelson fight, the fact that obviously that was a

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Speaker 6: But yeah, that was a huge win for him. And

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Speaker 6: some people might have been doubting the UFC and saying, well,

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Speaker 6: why the hell is Santiago Ponzanibio. Besides the fact that

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Speaker 6: it's in Argentina, why is he heading up a main event?

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Speaker 6: When you see him fight, and you see him fight consistently,

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Speaker 6: He's always just out of reach of your punches. Even

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Speaker 6: I thought was extremely impressive. He has that high pressure,

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Speaker 6: more main events in the future. Magni was a big challenge.

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Speaker 6: He's not an easy guy to beat. You look at

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Speaker 1: He is not an easy guy to beat.

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Speaker 6: You saw the kind of adversity that he dealt with

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Speaker 6: that Ponzinibia was able to get it done and dominate

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't as though Ponzinibio was a minus six

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Speaker 4: But you're right, this is what you need to do.

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Speaker 5: You need to dominate these guys in these type of fights.

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Speaker 5: Even though Santiago Ponzinivo was ranked ken coming in and

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Speaker 5: As far as Neil Magne is concerned, you know, he

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Speaker 5: chose to play the outside game for whatever reason, paid

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Speaker 5: be some criticism for the approach, at least to my

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, listen, he was backing straight up.

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Speaker 1: Instead of just backing straight up, he should have.

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Speaker 6: out of the submission game of Ponsanibio, but you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: of range, and as you mentioned, those leg kicks were

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Speaker 6: absolutely brutal. I remember I talked to Tyron while we

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Speaker 6: I'm so glad that when I was fighting the calfkick,

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Speaker 6: very difficult thing to deal with. You can't lift up

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Speaker 6: got to eat those calf kicks. If you lift it up,

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Speaker 6: it takes you right out. It almost acts as a sweep,

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Speaker 6: and they hurt like hell, as you could tell. For

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Speaker 5: Well, see, and that comes back to the people think,

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Speaker 5: I kick your ass, right, but you're going in there

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Speaker 5: to kill you. You're trying to break Magni's left Pontonibio

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Speaker 5: for one reason or another loves his hands or otherwise

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Speaker 5: wasn't trying to break his leg. And as far as

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Speaker 5: Herb Dean is concerned in the fight, perhaps he's thinking,

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Speaker 5: Magni Lombard, right, We've seen Neil Magni come back from adversity.

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Speaker 4: You want to give the fighter every benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 5: Maybe some criticism to be levied at at Elliott Marshall

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Speaker 5: of those leg kicks, he could barely get up and

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Speaker 5: he's limping around. I understand the fighter is going to

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Speaker 5: say flow always after the fact. Oh, you know, I

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Speaker 5: would have been more disappointed if my corner had thrown

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Speaker 5: on this. I didn't think there was any major referee

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Speaker 5: Would I like to see more fights stop because of

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Speaker 5: a leg kick you know that renders a guy, you know,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably would listen. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 6: tough to win any fight when you have one leg right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you could see that Magni wasn't able to

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Speaker 6: another reason why he kind of was just backing up

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Speaker 6: when he hurt his knee in the fight against Dos angels.

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Speaker 6: He basically had one one decision, one option just back

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Speaker 6: And even then, if you have one leg out there,

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Speaker 1: How much power are you going to generate in your punches?

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Speaker 6: So I think there is some truth to that that

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Speaker 6: perhaps the owner should have stoped the fight a little early,

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Speaker 6: but they know their fighter best, and Magne was doing

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Speaker 6: a good job of kind of hiding that limp once

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Speaker 6: he got to his feet a little bit. It was

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Speaker 6: tough for him to get to his feet, but he

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Speaker 6: was masking it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So that's a tough one. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 6: I certainly would have had an issue, though would not

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Speaker 6: have had an issue if the corner stopped that.

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Speaker 5: Over the top toughness as usual for Neil Magne, and

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Speaker 5: you certainly want to give him credit for that, but

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Speaker 5: not a great matchup for him. I think in some

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Speaker 5: respect the odds reflected that, and Ponzanibio's moving on up

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Speaker 5: and the body of work. So he's won seven in

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Speaker 5: a row. And I reference the signature win because when

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Speaker 5: you sort of put together now back to back to back,

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Speaker 5: Gunner Nelson, Platinum, Mike Perry, Neil Magni. You know, there's

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna push a hole in this fucking sucks.

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Speaker 5: I mean, would you save some credit for the referees

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Speaker 7: Love everybody, especially Rob Monroe. Really yeah, good guy.

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Speaker 5: Hey, So it's great to have you back, man. This

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Speaker 5: So I know in your world it just keeps on rolling.

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Speaker 5: You were on a plane to Oklahoma on Wednesday. You

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Speaker 8: It's easy, you know, Jed cross one two. Everybody understands

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Speaker 7: Yeah, boy TJ. DeSantis and a couple other guys.

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Speaker 8: I met so many nice people on this trip, and

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Speaker 8: Because he made everything easier. And uh, it was a

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Speaker 8: great fight. Fantastic use of the jib ken. You should

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Speaker 7: She was in and out, faking consistent. The whole fight

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Speaker 7: She's trying. She's just a sincere kid.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was the best. He didn't want to overstep

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Speaker 7: The guy was perfect.

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Speaker 8: I think I might have got him a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Let me tell you something. Can he trust me?

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Speaker 8: You know, he's he's still a little out of his mind.

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Speaker 8: So look, I might be a little late. I'm going

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Speaker 1: He was dat.

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Speaker 8: He was a madhatter in the day. He was good

435
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Speaker 8: friends with the first kickboxing champ I ever trained, Mike Ryan,

436
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 8: and those guys together were they were a dynamic duel

437
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 8: in that neighborhood. Man, they were crazy, but great, great,

438
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 8: great American dude. Man, he's just a good guy. Was

439
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 8: so good catching up with him and I haven't seen

440
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Speaker 8: him in twenty years.

441
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's cool.

442
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 5: So the smart money was on you not going to

443
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Speaker 5: Argentine at a corner Uluka Sasaki, and I just say

444
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 5: that to try to be funny, of course, like I

445
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,640
Speaker 5: know how much you respect him and what you thought

446
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 5: he could bring to this flyweight division. That future is

447
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 5: now obviously in question. So he lost a Leschandre Pantosia.

448
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Speaker 5: It was a quick fight, obviously you've seen it at

449
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Speaker 5: this point in time. Your thoughts on Sasaki and what

450
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Speaker 5: he does moving forward, given what we're hearing as to

451
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Speaker 5: the future of the twenty five ers.

452
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Speaker 8: I gotta tell you, I think those guys are all

453
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Speaker 8: getting their walking papers, which is the harsh reality of

454
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Speaker 8: almost corporate America. And I loved that division and it

455
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Speaker 8: kind of hits home because I see him him and

456
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Speaker 8: Mizuki's got a brother who's in the UFC is over here,

457
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Speaker 8: and he's gonna be gone.

458
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Speaker 7: So you know, like.

459
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Speaker 8: Again, all of a sudden, ally at Quinta isn't looking

460
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,959
Speaker 8: too bad with a business on the side, so they

461
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Speaker 8: could let him go tomorrow.

462
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Speaker 7: He's gonna be fine.

463
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Speaker 8: So I think that's the message now is man, everybody

464
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Speaker 8: better have a backup plan because this is a harsh

465
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 8: reality man to let a lot of guys go like that,

466
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Speaker 8: you know, I mean they already cut the staff man

467
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Speaker 8: like again, I really like the division. I mean even

468
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Speaker 8: Sazaki's fight, for as short as it lasted, was exciting.

469
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Speaker 8: You know, they went at it right in the center

470
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Speaker 8: of the ring. The guy went for takedown. Sazaki had

471
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Speaker 8: his moments on top a little bit. He made one mistake,

472
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Speaker 8: gave up his back, and you know, my heart goes

473
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Speaker 8: out to him. But I thought it was it was.

474
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Speaker 8: It was a good fight for the time it lasted,

475
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Speaker 8: and they all are. There's a lot of good guys

476
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Speaker 8: at that way.

477
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Speaker 6: Now, Ray, you talked about the division. It's not looking

478
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Speaker 6: good for that division. But Sasaki, although he didn't get

479
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Speaker 6: the win, do you think they'll keep him around. He

480
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Speaker 6: does have the height to move up to a hunt

481
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Speaker 6: thirty five pounds. Is that an option you think for

482
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Speaker 6: him or do you think he specifically he's gonna get

483
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Speaker 6: cut if he can't move up to one thirty five.

484
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Speaker 8: No, no, no, he'd move up to one thirty five

485
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Speaker 8: in a hotbeat. I still think they're gonna cut him.

486
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Speaker 8: That's my good feeling. I mean, I think he might

487
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Speaker 8: have even I got to check with the mag he

488
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 8: might even have been told that. I think he was

489
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Speaker 8: told win a lose. He was gone, So I'm not

490
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Speaker 8: sure that I thought that's what the interpreter told me.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's not a lot of motivation. Hey, I know,

492
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: You know, well, I think that's why Pantosia called out

494
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Speaker 8: who do He called out Shudo right after.

495
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Speaker 7: I mean, he's making up.

496
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Speaker 6: He called out Benavidez Joe Bend, he called out Oh,

497
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Speaker 6: he cooled out Benavide.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah right, I don't know what's going for another fly?

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what is that about?

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

502
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Speaker 1: I think that's why we didn't get the memo.

503
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I guess not maybe just SAZANKI

504
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Speaker 7: got it.

505
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Speaker 5: Yeah, alright, last thing before we let you fly, Ally

506
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Speaker 5: quin to less than a month out from his main event,

507
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 5: Big Fox Milwaukee, Wisconsin against Kevin Lee. Of course, I

508
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 5: quenta with a win over Kevin Lee and what was

509
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 5: Lee's UFC debut. It's a fight he has wanted back.

510
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Speaker 5: I can't wait to see it. The question for al

511
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 5: oftentimes not unlike the question for whyman his health, what

512
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 5: can you tell us about raging ally Quinn to hear

513
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 5: about three and a half four weeks out.

514
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Speaker 8: Listen, I got off that plane from Oklahoma. I met

515
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Speaker 8: him Saturday night, and I met him last night Sunday night.

516
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Speaker 8: I'm knocking on the wood.

517
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Speaker 7: He was.

518
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Speaker 8: He's awesome right now. But you know, I just hope

519
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Speaker 8: it stays that way. I wish to fight was next week.

520
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 8: I really don't part pounds through my chest every time

521
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Speaker 8: he's sparring and everything else. But he is working like

522
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 8: a maniac. He's very dedicated. He's a man on a mission.

523
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Speaker 8: We know he brings it, you know, And I'm excited

524
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 8: for that fight when definitely not under rest of Mat

525
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 8: and Kevin Lee at all. He's a killer, so we

526
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Speaker 8: respect him. I think he's grown a lot since the

527
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Speaker 8: first fight. That's gonna have nothing to do with anything.

528
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 8: These are two guys at a different stage of their

529
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Speaker 8: careers and with new and I think it's I think

530
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Speaker 8: that fight's gonna be a great fight.

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Speaker 6: Ray quick quick question. When all I quita is sparring,

532
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Speaker 6: do you limit anything that his sparring partners can do

533
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Speaker 6: while they're sparring just to keep him healthy or no, No.

534
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Speaker 7: I haven't done that yet.

535
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 8: Definitely not, but I do you know, we did a

536
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Speaker 8: lot of boxing rounds. I try to do the sparring,

537
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Speaker 8: although I want it really hard. And that's a little

538
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 8: only because it's Alan. He's not happy unless he's going on.

539
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 8: But I think boxing out of everything sometimes is the

540
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 8: safest way to get that you know that shock treatment

541
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Speaker 8: and know you're fighting and get banged around and get

542
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Speaker 8: your timing down without getting crazy. So I'm gonna say probably, No,

543
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Speaker 8: I've done it in the past. This time he's really

544
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Speaker 8: feeling good, so he's hard to stop. Man, he's really

545
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 8: he's dialed in, man, so right, but what I told

546
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Speaker 8: him today take off today had two really brutal days,

547
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Speaker 8: and I go, look, the rest is more important than

548
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 8: what you're doing, trust me.

549
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Speaker 7: And if he's healthy, man, that's gonna be a great fight.

550
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Speaker 5: All right, So you're your holiday bonus. I think I

551
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 5: gotta check with Kenny.

552
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Speaker 4: I think it's.

553
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: Guaranteed to be like a thousand bucks, but you do

554
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 5: have you do have, Anne. Hey, he's gonna swim it

555
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 5: in money over here, grinch that stole Hey, listen, he

556
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 5: didn't approve this with me.

557
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Speaker 1: Ray, This is ridiculous.

558
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Speaker 7: I thought you got to go through Kenny just before.

559
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just tried to. I mean, he's I just

560
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 5: tried to go through Kenny. That's what I'm trying to

561
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 5: do here. But I mean, come on, you did win.

562
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 5: He did win some of this money. Want to Russia,

563
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: right to corm or whatever you did?

564
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Speaker 1: Right like?

565
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Speaker 4: But anyway, here's the deal. This weekend, if.

566
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Speaker 7: I didn't have out fighting, I would have went to Argentina.

567
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Speaker 7: I really would. I just trip.

568
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Speaker 4: Oh that you might hate.

569
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Speaker 5: You might get up to two g's if you had

570
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 5: done that, all right, No, seriously, though, an opportunity to

571
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 5: win one hundred dollars, you only lose twenty five if

572
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Speaker 5: you're wrong. Uh. Francis and Ganu Curtis Blade's main event

573
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Speaker 5: in Beijing in the morning, I think Saturday in the States,

574
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: who is the pick to click in Ghanu or Blades

575
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 5: in the ring.

576
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Speaker 8: I'm taking Blades, and I think he corrects what he

577
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 8: didn't do in the first round, and he's a good wrestler.

578
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 8: He's gonna get that fight to the floor, tire him out,

579
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Speaker 8: do what everybody else has done to him and I'm

580
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 8: going with blades on that.

581
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Speaker 5: All right, we'll add it to the kiddy if you

582
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 5: get it right, Am I'm missing anything. I mean, I

583
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 5: feel like it's been a lifetime. It's only been two weeks.

584
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 5: Anything else before we let you fly?

585
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 8: Man, I hope I'm not screwing anything up. But a

586
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 8: big shout out to Mizuki. Man, she's a sweetheart. If

587
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 8: you get a chance, go back, go back and watch

588
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 8: the fight. Perfect use of the jib and a lot

589
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 8: of head movement, a lot of fakes. It was a

590
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 8: really good fight against a UFC FT who's tough and

591
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Speaker 8: who's fought a lot of good people in the UFC.

592
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Speaker 7: So very excited. I think she'll be going into the

593
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 7: UFC shortly.

594
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Speaker 6: The Teller for twenty nineteen, the Anak and Florian podcast

595
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Speaker 6: will be available in Japanese.

596
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Speaker 1: Tell it's great, good news.

597
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're lucky we're sending you to that one

598
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 6: thousand dollars. I was gonna spend that all on sucks.

599
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 6: But that's fine, that's what's good. That's all right.

600
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Speaker 5: Hey, you know what, and maybe you both can spend

601
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: money on haircuts before next.

602
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 4: Week, because if I show up and they both are

603
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Speaker 4: looking like this.

604
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Speaker 1: There's a reason I got this hat on. Ray. My

605
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: hair is out of control.

606
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Speaker 8: If I tell you I get my hair cut every

607
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 8: three weeks, I think this is a good sign for me.

608
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Speaker 7: Though my hair is still growing.

609
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I cut my own hair every four days.

610
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 5: Seriously, though, if I show up in the seat next

611
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: week and you both are still have the hair over

612
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 5: the years, essentially whatever we're dealing with, I'll get up.

613
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 5: You could do the Longo and Florian podcast and I'll

614
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 5: see it, you know, around Christmas.

615
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 7: I've just got my hair cut. I don't believe this.

616
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 4: What's up of the years though?

617
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Speaker 5: Man, and the burns now it back?

618
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Speaker 4: It's okay.

619
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I gotta I gotta. I gotta get a

620
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 7: I gotta get a good hairstylist.

621
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Speaker 4: All right, thanks for the time, buddy. Great to see

622
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Speaker 4: you a week.

623
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Speaker 7: All right, thanks man, Thank you very much.

624
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Speaker 4: Take care the great Ray long Ago.

625
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 5: It's hilarious with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast. Man,

626
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: you just never know the direction will go with Ray Longo.

627
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if we close the book on ponz

628
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 5: and Ebo. I think we did so. I guess we'll

629
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 5: get to Ricardo Lamas and Darren Elkins. You know, I

630
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 5: guess one of my bigger takeaways was the referee and

631
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 5: Keith Peterson doing a good job. But let's talk about

632
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 5: Ricardo Lamas still has these championship aspirations Kenny, and even

633
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 5: though some will suggest that that he lost the step

634
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Speaker 5: and at times Elkins was maybe the faster fighter on

635
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 5: the feet in this equation, I still think on any

636
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: given Saturday night, the bully is a very tough out

637
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: for almost everybody. At one hundred and forty five pounds.

638
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 5: Max Holloway and Brian Ortega maybe would be the only

639
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: outliers in that comment. And I think there's a big

640
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 5: win over a very durable guy for Ricardo Lamas and

641
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 5: at the very least thirty five thirty six years old.

642
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 5: This preserves the dream a little bit longer for Ricardo

643
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 5: Loamas as he tries to make one more run to

644
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 5: get that elusive ufcgul Well.

645
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 6: Elkins is never an easy fight for anybody. He's always

646
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 6: going to be a guy who's going to be in

647
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 6: your face. He's very tough to finish. He might be

648
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 6: bleeding in a fight, but he'll never be taken out easily,

649
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 6: and the fact that Ricardo Lamas was able to do

650
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 6: that was very impressive, especially on the heels of you know,

651
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 6: not too long ago. Yes he had a win in

652
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Speaker 6: between then, but he suffered one of the most brutal

653
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: knockouts you will see when he lost against Josh Emmett.

654
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: And yes, he's experienced.

655
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 6: That before when he got knocked out by Chad Mendes,

656
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 6: but that knockout against Emmett was something different.

657
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: That's kind of the one that really can.

658
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 6: Get you to doubt what you're doing as a profession

659
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 6: and Emmett just rocked him really badly. So when you're

660
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 6: coming back from something like that. Thankfully I never had

661
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: to deal with a knockout on my career, but that's

662
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 6: a big gut check for you. There's a lot of

663
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 6: fear that you need to overcome coming off a knockout

664
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 6: like that, and the fact that he's been able to

665
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 6: get two wins now after this Elkins fight, I think

666
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 6: is very impressive. I think this guy has some of

667
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 6: the most underrated ground and pound, not just in one

668
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 6: hundred and forty five pound division, but in the UFC period.

669
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 6: Those elbows are absolutely brutal, and you know, for those

670
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: of you guys that forgot about it, go back and

671
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: watch his fight against Eric Koch some of the nastiest

672
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 6: grounded pound you will see.

673
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: And he was able to do that again against Elkins.

674
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Speaker 6: And I thought Keith Peterson did a fantastic job of

675
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 6: stopping that fight just based on what was happening to

676
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 6: Elkins throughout the fight, and that last kind of sequence

677
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 6: of elbows could have Elkins, you know, got back to

678
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 6: his feed or maybe recover, Yes, but I think he

679
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 6: was taking a lot of damage at that point, and

680
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 6: you know, there was no reason for it. He was

681
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 6: losing that fight and I didn't see it really turning

682
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 6: around for him.

683
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 5: Right, So Keith Peterson, one of the best referees in

684
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: the game, stopped the fight and allows Darren Elkins to

685
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 5: fight another day. Even though if you said, you know,

686
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: raise your hand if you don't want to see Darren

687
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: Elkins absorb any more damage.

688
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, loud and proud, right.

689
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 5: I mean, it's hard, certainly the way the last two

690
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: have gone after the extended winning streak. But Keith Peterson

691
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: right wrestled his way and I'm reading from shehrd dog

692
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 5: dot com wrestled his way through high school and college,

693
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: won a NAGA Championship, one titles in muy Thai and

694
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: Amateur MMA, and trined in the New Jersey Martial Arts

695
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. I always introduced him as the no

696
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 5: nonsense Keith Peterson because he is nothing Kenny, as you know,

697
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: if not no nonsense, right, and there's just no hesitation, right.

698
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: Finally figured out the buzzword for me when it comes

699
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: to these referees. They don't care if it's early, they

700
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: don't care if it's late. It's decisiveness, no hesitation. And

701
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: in this moment, you know, Keith Peterson on top of

702
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: it as usual and on the podcast that loves to

703
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 5: just give credit to referees and Cupman, you know, I

704
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 5: thought Keith Peterson as usual on his game, on his

705
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 5: a game.

706
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Speaker 6: Again it's important to do so, John, And I think

707
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 6: Keith Peterson, with that combat sports background, I think that's

708
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 6: why he really is one of the true elite referees

709
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 6: in the game. You know, it really does make a

710
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 6: difference when you get a referee who has seen the

711
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 6: different aspects of the sport on the wrestling side, the

712
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 6: grappling side, the submission side, the striking side of things.

713
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing and it's clear, and.

714
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 6: He does make very difficult decisions look easy and just

715
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 6: another fantastic job in the octagon for him, all right.

716
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 5: Also on the main card, a performance of the Night

717
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: Winter Johnny Walker Black, Johnny Man Walker Blue, Johnny Walker

718
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 5: read what's the most expensive Johnny.

719
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Walker Blue Blue? All right?

720
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: Yes, So, I mean, how.

721
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 5: Do I not if I get the opportunity to somebody

722
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: in that studio? Right, I got like Jim Beam downstairs.

723
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: I don't know what to tell you. So Johnny Walker

724
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: fucking blue Man. You know, standing elbow knocks out Khalil

725
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 5: Rowntree Junior, who obviously had a ton of momentum. Love

726
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: this frame on this Johnny Walker. And in a division

727
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 5: that could not be more wide open. I know it's

728
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: top heavy, right with DC and Jones and Gustafson, right,

729
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 5: but you know, I mean with the Dominic Rayses and

730
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 5: the Tyson Pedros, there is room for somebody to emerge

731
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: and hard to do the debut much better than Johnny

732
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 5: Walker Blue did it this weekend.

733
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 6: Well, he's an intimidating force, that's for sure. You look

734
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 6: at his frame. This is a guy who could easily

735
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 6: fight at heavyweight. It seems just made a guy who

736
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: was used to be three hundred pounds and Khalil Rowntree

737
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 6: looked tiny out there. Six foot five, you know, knows

738
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 6: how to use it and did a phenomenal job of

739
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 6: utilizing that tie plumb clinch. And when you're taller and

740
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: that much stronger than your opponent, it is really tough

741
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 6: to get out. Obviously, we knew how effective Anderson Silva

742
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 6: was in the middleweight division with it. You know, just

743
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 6: being a division up at six foot five, it's still

744
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 6: gonna be huge advantage. He was able to dominate that

745
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 6: net control and it looked like he was threatening with

746
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 6: the knee, and that's kind of why Khalil Rowntree was

747
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 6: kind of trying to posture up so he wouldn't get

748
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 6: hit with the knee to the body or the face.

749
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Speaker 1: It didn't matter.

750
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 6: He went up and over the top, beautifully landed that

751
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 6: elbow across the ear or the temple, and those are

752
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 6: the kind of shots that take away your equilibrium completely.

753
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 6: It looks like you're kind of stepping in potholes there

754
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: in the octgon and that's what happened to Khalil and

755
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 6: then as soon as he was hurt, it was just

756
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 6: a beautiful finish there by.

757
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Johnny.

758
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: And you know, from there, I feel like for Walker

759
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 6: heading into that fight, I thought Roundtree was gonna win

760
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 6: that fight because Walker, to me, seems like he's still

761
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 6: growing into his body. To a certain extent, he gets

762
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 6: a little wild, he doesn't set his things up well,

763
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 6: but he seemed way more patient in this fight against Rountree.

764
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 6: So to me, he showed more maturity and improvement in

765
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 6: his game, no doubt about it. And if he continues

766
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 6: on this path, he is going to be a tough

767
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: guy to finish because he comes in there with a

768
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 6: lot of confidence.

769
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: He was dancing on his way to the octagon.

770
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: Man, oh he was.

771
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: No, he was ready to go. I think I'm still

772
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: growing into my body, ken flow. That's my excuse as well.

773
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, forty years old, I'm a mess, all right.

774
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: So very cool that Johnny Walker got it done and

775
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 5: pretty big setback for Khalo Rowntree Junior. After the go

776
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: Kansaki win to absorb a loss like this as a

777
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: two to one favorite, but excited to see Johnny Walker

778
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 5: moving forward. A lot of people were excited to see

779
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 5: him going in and certainly lived up to the hype.

780
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 5: Ian Heiinish a big win over, saysra Mutanci Fejeda. But

781
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: I want to get to Cynthia Calvio just in case

782
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 5: we run out of time, and then we can circle

783
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 5: back to Cheeto Vera Ian Heinisch and get to his backstory.

784
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 5: But Cynthia Calvillo, as an underdog here defeats Poliano Botelio,

785
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 5: very highly touted Brazilian. She does so by submission in

786
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: round one, but she does so after missing weight and

787
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 5: doing so for the world to see very hard visual

788
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 5: of Calvio barely able to well, not able to get

789
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 5: off the scale under her own power essentially. But as

790
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: far as the performance on fight night is concerned, absolutely

791
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 5: what she needed after what was a pretty disastrous fight

792
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: week in Friday for her, after what followed a lengthy

793
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 5: suspension before this return.

794
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, without a doubt, it was unfortunate the fact that

795
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 6: she wasn't able to make weight. She seemed very apologetic

796
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 6: about it, and yeah, listen, the only thing she had

797
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 6: to do was go out there and have an impressive performance.

798
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 6: That's exactly what she did. She did it in the

799
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 6: first round against a tough opponent. I felt like the

800
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: winner of that fight really could be a star in

801
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: the division, and I think a star has emerged. Calvio

802
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 6: beat a very tough opponent in Botelio, who is dangerous

803
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 6: on the feed. I think she took the easiest path

804
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 6: to victory, you know, and for me as a coach,

805
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 6: as a fighter, as an analyst, I think that's always

806
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 6: the smartest approach. Get in there and get out, expose

807
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 6: the weakness of your opponent. That's exactly what Calvio did.

808
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: It was very dominant. She had that bulldog choke then

809
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 6: kind of transitioned to the back to make it a

810
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 6: more traditional rear naked choke, and it was beautiful.

811
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: Man, If you were going to be able to match

812
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 5: your nastiness, that's for sure. I think Juliana Penya is

813
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 5: the nastiest woman in MMA, but I think Calvio certainly

814
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 5: on that top ten list. As far as the women's

815
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: game is concerned, I think we all have fantasies of

816
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 5: being commissioner for one day in any sport. And if

817
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 5: I was UFC commissioner for a day and I got

818
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 5: to do a few things, one of them would certainly

819
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: be to have a stiffer penalty for fighters missing weight. Now,

820
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 5: I don't know what you think should be the penalty

821
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 5: for missing weight. Someone suggested on Twitter this weekend that

822
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: the best the fighter can do after missing weight is

823
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: a no contest, right, And I do believe in terms

824
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 5: of the divisional hierarchy and considering a strawweight win, the

825
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: best Cynthia Calvio should have been able to do this

826
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: weekend Kenny is get a no contest. Now, yes, she

827
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: gets a win, and I guess I'd be okay with

828
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 5: the win if it wasn't considered a strawweight win after

829
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 5: she didn't miss weight. So the twenty percent of the

830
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 5: purse or the thirty percent or whatever it is certainly

831
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: not enough. I don't know how much incentive there is

832
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 5: for a fighter to compete Kenny if they know they

833
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 5: can't get a W on the record after a valacious

834
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 5: weight cut, right, So maybe that's one variable. But all

835
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 5: I know is that Cynthia shouldn't be spun forward in

836
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 5: the division as if she has won a stroweight fight.

837
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 5: And yet that ultimately is our reality and is what's

838
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 5: going to be done.

839
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 6: Listen, It's not a terrible idea that the only problem

840
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 6: is that people would bypass that by not even getting

841
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: on the scale, right, they would just say, well, you

842
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 6: know what, I'm not even going to weigh in, and

843
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 6: that way, you know, I'm just not medically fit to

844
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 6: go out there and fight.

845
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: And perhaps that's how that would be the way around it.

846
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: But I agree.

847
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 6: Listen, a lot of these guys that are not making

848
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 6: weight are going in there with a huge advantage, and

849
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 6: a lot of people think, well, it's just one pound

850
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 6: or a pound and a half, that is a huge

851
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 6: advantage just mentally physically. I always equate it to someone

852
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 6: who just ran a marathon and you say, you know what,

853
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 6: you know you only have one pound to go.

854
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Well, it's just like running a marathon.

855
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 4: Go can you just run an extra like five ten miles?

856
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, you just did a marathon. It's not a

857
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: big deal. Just just go ahead and do it. It's easy.

858
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 6: So it is a very difficult thing to go out

859
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: there and execute on after you missweight like that and

860
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 6: all the effects on Calvio.

861
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Luckily she was able to compete.

862
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 6: You know, they saved her from not competing and she

863
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 6: went out there and won, and.

864
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: Was that a huge factor. It could have been It

865
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: really could have been.

866
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 6: So but I'm sure calvill is gonna, you know, get

867
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 6: her crap together and be fine for the next one.

868
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Speaker 3: She was.

869
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 6: She's not the kind of person who's going to try

870
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 6: to take advantage of that. In my opinion, she seems

871
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 6: like a professional and not something that's going to happen consistently.

872
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: I just I get texts from pro fighters and they

873
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 5: all say, just lack of discipline six to eight weeks

874
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: out right. Every time this happens, I think one fighter

875
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: just sends it to me on repeat. Oh, lack of

876
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 5: discipline six to eight weeks out right. So I agree

877
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: with you. I think this was an eye opening experience

878
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: for her, and I think she will go out and

879
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: work hard to acquire the discipline eight weeks out to

880
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 5: make sure she weighs one hundred and sixteen pounds, because

881
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 5: when you start to have a championship trajectory, for some

882
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: of these fighters, this becomes a part of the narrative

883
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: as they build their way up, right, and so can

884
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: they count on Calvio to repeatedly make weight? I think so,

885
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 5: you know, but this was obviously a misstep, but a.

886
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: Huge win for her.

887
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: Nonetheless, on Saturday Night, all right, Ian Heinish a big

888
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 5: win against Sezer Mutanchi Fejeda and a lot of us

889
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 5: were unfamiliar with the Ian Heinish backstory. Kenny, I'm sure

890
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 5: you guys brought it up on television, just in terms

891
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: of the arrests and internationally, the time he spent in prison,

892
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 5: remaking himself into this just well rounded individual and martial artist,

893
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: and in what was sort of an overdue UFC debut,

894
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: he gets a win his underdog against Aezer Mutaci Fejeda.

895
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 5: I think the more this Ian Heine story gets told,

896
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 5: the brighter his star is gonna burn. You can go

897
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 5: to the Players Tribune dot com and find that story now.

898
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: But he was a guy who picked up a lot

899
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 5: of momentum during fight week because his story became sort

900
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 5: of revealed to the public, and then he cashed on

901
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 5: the fight card as well, Kenny, big weekend for mister Heinish.

902
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, didn't just go to prison, went to Rikers, by

903
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: the way, loss not your first choice I think as

904
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: far as prisons, if you're going to go to prison.

905
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

906
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 6: So just an amazing story for sure, And what's also

907
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: amazing the fact that he took this fight on what

908
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 6: like ten days, seven days, noticed something ridiculous in a week. Yeah,

909
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 6: and he did this against a guy in says our Fejeda,

910
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 6: who's been around the block for a very long time.

911
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 6: And he actually was the guy who was fresher when

912
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 6: it came down to the latter part of that second

913
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 6: round and he just kind of took over. It was

914
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 6: that toughness and that ability to battle back from adversity

915
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 6: that I think really was the difference in that fight

916
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 6: against mutans. And you know, Tyron and I were talking

917
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 6: about it, how you have Fejeda, who is a product,

918
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 6: you know, a protege of Vtor bell Ford, and he

919
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 6: kind of he started off fast and kind of faded

920
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: in a similar fashion to a Vtor bell Ford, and

921
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 6: it was unfortunate to see that. I think that grinding

922
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 6: style of Heinisch was the difference, and he scored some

923
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 6: critical moments in those in that second and third round

924
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 6: to take that fight.

925
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: All right, So a good card in Argentina.

926
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 5: We will shortly get to the picks coming up for Beijing,

927
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 5: but I wanted to get your thoughts briefly on UFC

928
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: President Dana White shooting down the rumored fight, and I

929
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: shouldn't say rumored fight, but the rumor of a potential

930
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: fight between Connor McGregor and Donald cowboys Seroni, and obviously

931
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 5: to no one surprised, Seroni went public with his desire

932
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 5: for this fight, insinuated that he was just waiting for

933
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 5: Connor McGregor to oblige him or to sign on the

934
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 5: dotted line. A lot of people seem to jump on

935
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: board in support of this fight, Kenny, I didn't think

936
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 5: it made a ton of competitive sense for Connor McGregor,

937
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: given where he is in the lightweight picture right now,

938
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 5: and also given the fact that Seroni's last ten fights

939
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 5: have all taken place at welterweight.

940
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 4: He has lost four of his last six.

941
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on that, and ultimately Dana White shooting it

942
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 5: down over the weekend, Well.

943
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 6: I gotta say it's not a terrible idea, and I'll

944
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 6: tell you why.

945
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: Listen.

946
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: First of all, Serroni said he wants to make one

947
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 6: last run at a hundred and fifty five pounds now

948
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 6: that he's kind of had mixed results, and at one

949
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy pounds he wants to go back to

950
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 6: one fifty five and make that last run in his career,

951
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: which I think makes sense on that level. Now, Seroni

952
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 6: has a huge fan base, and I just don't see

953
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: Connor McGregor doing a fight, you know, a pay per

954
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 6: view fight without being another very big name or a

955
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 6: marketable guy or a well known face. Obviously, his first option,

956
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 6: i'm sure is that rematch against Habib and Mugga Madoff.

957
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 6: But if you're going to build that fight and you

958
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 6: want to give that fight between Ferguson and Habib as

959
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 6: a Dana has kind of alluded to that, that would

960
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 6: probably be the first choice for them. You know, A

961
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 6: possible way for Connor McGregor to get back on track

962
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 6: at one hundred and fifty five pounds would be to

963
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 6: face a guy like a cowboy Seroni. But you know

964
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: that's going to be a tough fight for SERNI. I

965
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 6: think it would be an exciting fight, but he has

966
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 6: struggled against high pressure self pause, Nate Diaz, Haafiel Dosanjos,

967
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 6: guys like that are going to give him a tough time.

968
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 6: Darren Till guys who can back him up. But I

969
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 6: would love to see the fight. Does it make sense

970
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 6: for Conor McGregor. Necessarily, maybe not in the grand scheme

971
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 6: of things as far as giving him that ability to

972
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 6: get a rematch against Habi, but it would certainly be

973
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 6: an interesting one to put him back on track and

974
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: to kind of get some fans back in there, because

975
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people who maybe weren't the

976
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 6: biggest of UFC fans, saw Connor against the Mayweather and

977
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 6: they haven't seen him get a win in the octagon

978
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 6: at this point.

979
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 5: Right right, And maybe some wonder how many bullets do

980
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: you have in the chamber with Connor McGregor. But I

981
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 5: think you're getting plenty of fights out of this guy.

982
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: I don't think he's going away anytime soon. And it's

983
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: not that I'm super down on that matchup necessarily. I

984
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 5: just thought maybe a Nate Diaz trilogy fight, or even

985
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 5: a rematch against Dustin Poorier, But maybe the Poorier name

986
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 5: doesn't sound out as loud as SERRONI I don't know.

987
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 4: I just I do think for Connor he's one win away.

988
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 5: Right Any fight that he is in that is not

989
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 5: a title fight is a lightweight title eliminator, whether he's

990
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 5: fighting number fifteen in the world or a guy Seroni

991
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: coming back down Who's un ranks, So it's just going

992
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: to take one win for Connor. I guess I was

993
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: just surprised to see that that was something that had legs.

994
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: And who knows, maybe Seroni will end up on the

995
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1023
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 5: to Beijing. To that end, we get to the main

1024
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: event challenge.

1025
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge.

1026
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: The time is most definitely.

1027
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: I finished.

1028
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 7: Fine, how do you everything.

1029
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: Possibill to win the main event Challenge? To John Annick

1030
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: and Kenny Florian podcast.

1031
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 5: I think the hearing in the left ear is starting

1032
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 5: to go Kent flow. Why is it all the IFBs?

1033
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm telling you man.

1034
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: We're in trouble with all these electronics, you know, packs

1035
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 5: of audio hooked up to us all these years, you know,

1036
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: going down swinging ken flow.

1037
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: But it's not looking good.

1038
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 5: All right, So one thirty to one sixteen for Team

1039
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: Annik was the lead heading into the Argentina show. Ken

1040
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 5: Flow goes head to head with our guy Tony. In

1041
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 5: the UK, Florian wins the week six to four. You

1042
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: had Ponzanipio to win by knockout. You had round three,

1043
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 5: should have had it, so you lost a point there,

1044
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 5: but the lead for Team Annick is now twelve one

1045
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 5: thirty four to one twenty two. We head into the

1046
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: UFC's Thanksgiving weekend show, the rematch between Curtis Blades and

1047
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 5: Francis and Gano, your main event at heavyweight and with

1048
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: us to make picks today. Representing Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada,

1049
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 5: Eric Lebreck is with us. That's a power name right there,

1050
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 5: Eric Lebreck, Good morning, sir. How are you Eric?

1051
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 9: I'm good boys, how are you, guys?

1052
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: Eric Lebreck. I wish my name was like John Lebreck

1053
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 5: or something, you know. I mean, I could could really

1054
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 5: do something with that name. So so, Eric, you've been

1055
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: to about fifteen live UFC events in ten cities. You

1056
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 5: bet MMA regularly, which we really appreciate. So you're pretty

1057
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: into this stuff. I kind of like your chances against

1058
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 5: the Flow here today.

1059
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, I love it, so I'm going to be

1060
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 9: at the USC. I think it's two thirty two in

1061
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 9: Toronto as well, so on the floor as well. So yeah,

1062
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 9: I'm very into it. And my brother is a fighter

1063
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 9: as well, so we're both big fans, and yeah, we

1064
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 9: always watch together.

1065
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: So good stuff. Floor seats only ken Fall.

1066
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: I gotta like that.

1067
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 5: Our first fight for US at welterweight, the Leech Lee

1068
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 5: Jingleong minus one fifty five favorite here against David Zawada,

1069
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: the plus one twenty five underdog. The Leaches won five

1070
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 5: of six overall, So a want of stepping in here

1071
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 5: about three weeks notice, replacing the very talented Eli Gio

1072
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: Zeleski Dos Santos, Eric, Who do you like here?

1073
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: First fight up at Welterwait.

1074
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 9: So I'm not too familiar with Zelata, but I saw

1075
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 9: he has a pretty good record and he has a

1076
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 9: decent sized reach advantage if the if the numbers were

1077
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 9: right that I was looking at. I've also I liked

1078
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 9: the Leech, but he seems to have some holes. So

1079
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 9: with the odds closed, I'm going to take Zawata as

1080
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 9: the underdog for the points.

1081
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 5: Gotta love Eric knowing the scoring system and everything else.

1082
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: So the German Zawata Kenny, I know you learned a

1083
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 5: little bit about him this morning as well. Fighting out Duseeldorf, Germany,

1084
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 5: ohen One in the UFC lost the debut split decision

1085
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 5: to Danny Roberts. That was the fight of the night

1086
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: back in July. The Leech pretty good form over the

1087
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 5: last three years, the only loss to Jake Matthews. Some

1088
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: controversial moments for him in that fight. He would have

1089
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 5: been the underdog against the Lesio Zeleski dos Santos. Instead,

1090
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 5: he's the favorite.

1091
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Flow.

1092
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: Who you back at Lee Jingleung or David Zawaka?

1093
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a tough one as well.

1094
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 6: I think Zawada has a game that he could definitely

1095
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: impose on Lee Lee Jingleung. But I gotta go with

1096
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 6: the Leech. I think he gets it done. I think

1097
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 6: he's got a little bit more pop in his hands.

1098
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 6: Not sure if he can get the finish, but I'll

1099
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: go with the Leech.

1100
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 5: Nflow is backing the UFC tested Lee Jinglyong, one of

1101
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: my favorites. Give that man a microphone, all right? Next

1102
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 5: up for debate here song youa Dong? Song youa Dong?

1103
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: Is the man? Actually he's good song You Dong.

1104
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: I should probably say the boy he was born December

1105
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety seven. Man Song You Dong minus three fifty

1106
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 5: this weekend against your boy Vince Morales, who comes back

1107
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 5: at plus two sixty. Eric, What do you think song

1108
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 5: youa Dong or Morales?

1109
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 9: I have to go with song You Dong here. He's

1110
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 9: just a stud and I don't know too much about

1111
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 9: Morales either, but I quickly just glanced over his record

1112
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 9: and I saw he lost on the Contender series and

1113
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 9: his last win I think was in Bellatour, but he

1114
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 9: beat a guy who was three and five, so I

1115
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 9: don't really take too much off that win. And Song

1116
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 9: You Dong is a beast trains with alfa male if

1117
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 9: I'm right, So I gotta go with song You Dong here.

1118
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 5: Song You don flow two and zero in the UFC

1119
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 5: stopped Felipe and Anchis to win a bonus in what

1120
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 5: was his second UFC fight back in June. After a

1121
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: huge UFC debut in Shanghai last Thanksgiving, many believe, despite

1122
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 5: the fact that he can't drink in a bar for

1123
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 5: two more weeks, that he is China's best hope for

1124
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 5: UFC glory, right if you had to plant your flag,

1125
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 5: and some listeners hate when I used that expression, but

1126
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 5: if you had to back one horse out of China

1127
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 5: to win a UFC title. The first name I think

1128
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 5: of right now is not Lee Jing Lyong. It's Song

1129
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 5: You Dong. Does have four losses on the pro record,

1130
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: Kenny eighteen pro fights before his twenty first birthday. Your

1131
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: thoughts on Song You Dong in this spot against the

1132
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 5: Idaho born wrestler Morales this.

1133
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Weekend couldn't agree with you more.

1134
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 6: I think his win over An just kind of prove

1135
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 6: that this is a guy who's very fluid.

1136
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: He's very composed, he's very.

1137
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 6: Relaxed, and I think he has a very well rounded

1138
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 6: attack and he's aggressive. He also balances that with patients,

1139
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 6: though he's not just swinging in there wildly. I think

1140
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 6: for Morales he just gets hit way too much. He's

1141
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 6: a little bit too jittery for my liking. For me,

1142
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 6: Song youa Dong looks like a veteran of the game,

1143
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 6: like he's been doing it for a very long time.

1144
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 6: The fact that he's not even twenty one years old

1145
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 6: is absolutely amazing, just based on his age, his skills,

1146
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 6: his composure, his mindset. I think this is a guy

1147
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 6: who could be a future champion, no doubt about it.

1148
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: How do you get eighteen pro fights before you turn

1149
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 5: twenty one? Man, He's one of my last jib and Morales,

1150
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 5: as Eric mentioned, did lose a fight on Dana White's

1151
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: Tuesday I contender this summer, and he's replacing Frankie Signs.

1152
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: He pulled out around November seventh, So not a ton

1153
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: of notice for Morales either, and I'm not sure the

1154
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 5: betting line reflects that circumstance. All right, comin event, So

1155
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 5: Russian heavyweight Sergey Pavlovitch making his UFC debut here. He

1156
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 5: will do so as a slight favorite minus one thirty

1157
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 5: against Alas Droverim. He's at plus one ten also out

1158
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 5: there at even money on my site. Eric, your thoughts

1159
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 5: on Pavolich in this debut this weekend against the demolition

1160
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 5: man Alistrovering.

1161
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 9: So, I mean a Russian heavyweight, he's got to be

1162
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 9: a pretty good grabbler. Again, I'm a short notice. I

1163
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 9: don't really know too many of the guys, which usually

1164
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 9: isn't the case for me. Usually I'm pretty familiar with everyone.

1165
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 9: But in nine KOs as well and over him. It's

1166
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 9: it's so tough to back that guy right now in

1167
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 9: the heavyweight division with I mean, the guy's been knocked

1168
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 9: out so many times and his chin just seems to

1169
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 9: be getting a little weaker and weaker. Obviously, Overam he

1170
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 9: can fight. When he fights tentative, it's he has a

1171
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 9: tough style like you've seen. Even Junior Dos Santos like

1172
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 9: a lot of guys have trouble with him when he

1173
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 9: when he fights like that. So I do I don't

1174
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 9: think it's going to be an easy fight. I think

1175
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 9: it's going to be probably a little boring, maybe even,

1176
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 9: but I do believe Pavlich Pavlovitch will get him out

1177
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 9: of there. So I'm going to take Pavlovich right.

1178
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 5: Sergey Pavlovich can flow, not loving the fact that he

1179
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: can't pick up ground there, So sixty second professional MMA

1180
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 5: fight for overhim, he would tell you it's probably seventy

1181
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 5: or closer to that. He's coming off back to back

1182
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 5: brutal knockout losses. Of course, Curtis Blades most recently before that,

1183
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: Francis and Ganu in that highlight for the Ages flow

1184
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 5: you see any value on over him here and plus

1185
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 5: Terror Tori or you going the other way with Pavlovich.

1186
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh, without a doubt. I think Overhim can win this fight.

1187
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 6: I wanted to pick up some points, some underdog points

1188
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 6: and go with the Russian Sergei. I just think that

1189
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 6: with his overall game, his ability to trade, he's a

1190
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 6: high pressure fighter, I think he can do some damage

1191
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 6: on Overim. Again, you look at just where they are

1192
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 6: in their careers. Overim can absolutely get it done, very experienced.

1193
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, I agree with our guest picker. I think

1194
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 6: that Overeim's chin it certainly isn't what it used to be.

1195
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 6: And when you get a guy who's as aggressive as Pavlovich,

1196
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 6: I think that's a dangerous thing to do in the pocket.

1197
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go with the Russian here as well.

1198
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 6: I think he gets it done all right.

1199
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 5: Main event the rematch between heavyweight contenders Curtis Razor Blades

1200
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 5: Francis the predator in Ghano. As many of you know,

1201
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 5: Francis and Ghana won the first meeting. It was a

1202
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 5: doctor stoppage. It was in Croatia, April of twenty sixteen.

1203
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 5: To this day, Eric had stand as the only blemish

1204
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: other than a no contest on the record of Curtis

1205
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 5: Razor Blades, who is the minus two zero five favorite

1206
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 5: here Francis and Ghana the underdog at plus one sixty five.

1207
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 5: It is the main event, so we'll need the round

1208
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: and the method of victory. Eric who takes the main

1209
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 5: event in Beijing.

1210
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 9: I think a lot of people are quick to write

1211
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 9: and John u off just his last two performances, of

1212
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 9: course haven't been great, But man, the guy is a

1213
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 9: freaking beast, and obviously we all know MMA fans very

1214
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 9: short memories, so I think he has a ton of

1215
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 9: good performances left in him given the right matchups. But this,

1216
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 9: I don't think this is the right matchup. Like, I

1217
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 9: don't know why they would give him another stud wrestler.

1218
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 9: I know he's beat Blades, but like, I don't know

1219
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 9: why you would give him another grappler when the guy

1220
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 9: can just be a star if you give him the

1221
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 9: right matchups. And I don't think he's took enough time

1222
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 9: to work on his grappling and stuff, and Blades is

1223
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 9: just firing on all cylinders right now, So I'm going

1224
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 9: to go with Blades here. I believe he will get

1225
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 9: it done by Tko in round four with the ground.

1226
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 5: And pounds KO, ground and pound round four. All right,

1227
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 5: Eric Lebrett, good stuff, man. We'll try to have you

1228
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 5: back on that pay per view in Toronto so you

1229
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 5: can pick against the flow before you actually attend in person.

1230
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 5: Thanks for stepping up on short notice, man, great job. Well,

1231
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 5: thanks lovel to the Canadians. Always bring it, man. I say,

1232
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 5: per capita of the best crowds in MMA, and I

1233
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 5: think on this show, every time we've had a Canadian

1234
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: guest picker, they have outdone the Americans.

1235
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding.

1236
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 5: Everybody likes to bang on the American right Like he

1237
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 5: used to be the favorites. Now everybody's banging on the Americans.

1238
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 5: So I'm certainly not going to do that. All right,

1239
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 5: as far as this main event is concerned, Kenny, when

1240
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 5: we sat down with Curtis Blades in Chicago prior to

1241
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 5: the austrover and fight, he kind of intimated that he

1242
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 5: was ahead of schedule in response to a question as

1243
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 5: to how close he was to Stepe, who at that

1244
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 5: time was the heavyweight champion. And he's twenty seven years

1245
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: years old. He's an absolute beast. Yet he has not

1246
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 5: arrived even close to his fighting prime in my opinion, certainly,

1247
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 5: I think the Overeing fight was a huge step in

1248
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 5: the right direction in terms of what he could do

1249
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: with ground control, in terms of blasting the guy's face

1250
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 5: through the canvas and everything else. I think if he

1251
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 5: can finish Francis in Ghano this weekend, even though Curtis

1252
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 5: Blades has been the forgotten man to some extent because

1253
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 5: of brock Lesner and step A, I guess to a

1254
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 5: lesser extent, Curtis Blades is right there and this is

1255
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 5: a fight that he has wanted dearly and he gets

1256
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 5: it this weekend.

1257
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: What do you think we're going to see here in Beijing?

1258
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 6: Well, I agree, Listen, I thought Eric was teasing me here.

1259
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 6: I thought he was going to go with Ghano. I

1260
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 6: was like, yes, finally, But yeah, listen, it's hard to

1261
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 6: it's hard to say that in Ghano is going to

1262
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 6: do something different than what he did against Derek Lewis.

1263
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 6: He was extremely tentative in that fight, and now here

1264
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 6: he is going against another guy who can do the

1265
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 6: same thing that Steve A. Mitchell did against him, now

1266
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 6: in Gan, who's back is against the wall here. In

1267
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 6: my opinion, this is going to be a huge mental hurdle,

1268
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 6: and I think we're going to find out what Francis.

1269
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: And Ganu is all about in this fight. Does he

1270
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: cower it?

1271
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 6: Does he still become hesitant in this fight against a

1272
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 6: guy in Blades who could both take him down and

1273
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 6: maybe hurt him on the feet. So yeah, I think

1274
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 6: it's the right time to be fighting Francis and Ganu.

1275
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 6: While I do think Franceson Ghanu is always going to

1276
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 6: be dangerous based on his speed and power, I do

1277
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 6: like Curtis Blades here. I think he's going to be

1278
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 6: able to take down and Gano control him at the

1279
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 6: very least, And you know what, I'll go a step further.

1280
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 6: I think Blades gets it done by TKO in round three.

1281
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 5: Round three. Curtis Blades by TKO is the pick for

1282
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 5: Ken Flow. And in terms of promotionally how they're proceeding

1283
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 5: with Francis and Gano, I know Eric touched on them

1284
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 5: giving him another wrestler here. I believe that they initially

1285
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 5: tried to make Curtis Blades against stepe if I'm not mistaken,

1286
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 5: but steep A didn't want to take a non championship fight,

1287
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 5: and with all due respect of Francis and Ghanu, He's

1288
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 5: the guy calling the shots, right. If anybody's in position

1289
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 5: to call for this rematch and this fight, it would

1290
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 5: be the guy with all the momentum in the world,

1291
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: Curtis Blades right. So I think in some respects they

1292
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 5: wanted to push Curtis Blades forward and he's getting an

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 5: opportunity that I think, on paper, based upon the merits

1294
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 5: of what he's done, he has richly deserved. So I'm

1295
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 5: excited to see it, and for Francis and Ghana, I

1296
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 5: just want to say before we go at this time

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00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: last year six and zero in the UFC, right, I mean,

1298
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 5: it's amazing what a difference a year makes, Right six

1299
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 5: and O in the UFC getting ready to face Alistair

1300
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 5: Overing So earned a title fight with that huge knockout

1301
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 5: of the Ream, then failed against Steepe and then combined

1302
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 5: with the Black Beast Flow to turn in just the

1303
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 5: stinker of all stinkers, and now five months later, another

1304
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 5: chance for him to prove himself. I just a lot

1305
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 5: of eyeballs on Francis and Ghano in terms of what

1306
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 5: he can do this weekend to avoid a.

1307
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: Third straight loss. I mean It's crazy to think where

1308
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: this guy was.

1309
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 6: Man, without a doubt, Man Mix Marshall Hearts is an

1310
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 6: absolutely brutal sport and we've seen it time and time

1311
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 6: again with guys that are at the very top of

1312
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 6: the mountain, guys that have climbed even higher than Francis

1313
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 6: and Ganu. You know, you see the unfortunate circumstances that

1314
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 6: guys like Canthanny Pettis Chris Widman have found themselves in,

1315
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 6: from being champed to now, you know, dealing with a

1316
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 6: losing streak. This is the toughest sport in the world.

1317
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 6: There's no doubt about that, all right.

1318
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 5: Last thing, it came from a listener. What's the worst

1319
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 5: injury to wake up from after a pro fight? And

1320
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: I think it's asked in the context of how Neil

1321
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 5: Magny's lead leg fields here on Monday morning, right, what

1322
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 5: is the hardest thing? I mean, you were never knocked

1323
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: out cold in competition. What's the hardest thing to wake

1324
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 5: up from the next day after a tough fight?

1325
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 6: Really, for me, it's the light kicks, because those things

1326
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 6: will linger and stay with you for at least a

1327
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 6: week or more. And certain circumstances just walking around and moving.

1328
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: It is absolutely brutal. Yeah, I gotta say late kicks.

1329
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: So but for you after the Joseado Fighter is kind

1330
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 5: of good because like purple skinny jeans, you didn't need

1331
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 5: those for a week.

1332
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 6: He just had fucking bru exactly. Yeah, I did mind.

1333
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 6: It hurts so much, it almost didn't hurt. It was

1334
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 6: just completely numb, so it was fine.

1335
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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that's it for this week.

1336
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 5: One hundred and eighty episodes in the can and Ray

1337
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 5: Longo asked to be a full third partner, so we

1338
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 5: got to get together. Off there, Yez, this you thought

1339
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 5: one thousand dollars was your problem. You want thirty three

1340
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 5: percent of the company, right, so, which is not a lot,

1341
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 5: but it's not nothing, right, it's nothing thirty three percent

1342
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 5: of the company, you know.

1343
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 4: So we will talk.

1344
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 5: Thanks to everybody at Fox Sports for coming in, especially

1345
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 5: during the holiday week. I know some people are out

1346
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 5: happy Thanksgiving, of course, from us to you to everyone

1347
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 5: for whom that applies.

1348
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 4: So are you heading heading west? Are you heading back east?

1349
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: You used to be here. I'll be staying west.

1350
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 6: I kind of did a little mini Thanksgiving in Boston

1351
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 6: with my family, and I'll be doing another one here

1352
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 6: with some friends, all right, so.

1353
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: You can catch ken flow at May.

1354
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: Rocky BJJ remembered walking the door telling the Anecon Florian

1355
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 5: podcast sent you and ask them what they can do

1356
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 5: for you and see if it's anything. I'm getting on

1357
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 5: a plane with three children at six am tomorrow, ages

1358
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 5: seven to five and five months, So I know thoughts

1359
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 5: and prayers aren't always sufficient.

1360
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 4: But I'll take your thoughts. I'll take your PRIs.

1361
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1362
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: I am in it tomorrow with three kids on an airplane.

1363
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 5: I don't like Jet Blue and that's the airline. So

1364
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: thoughts and prayers from y'all to me, I'd appreciate that.

1365
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if it makes you feel better.

1366
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 6: Keith had to do that from Boston to South Paulo, Brazil,

1367
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 6: and he's like, he goes, dude, it was an absolute war.

1368
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 1: He goes, it was over. So yeah, get ready, kid,

1369
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: I know you could do it. You know, yeah?

1370
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 5: Did these parents? I love y'all who take your kids international.

1371
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 5: I remember Chuck Ladell. I was on a flight with

1372
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 5: him with his daughter fourteen months to fourteen hours to

1373
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 5: Australia and fifteen months I'm thinking, oh my gosh, what

1374
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 5: are these people doing. I mean, I would rather do

1375
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 5: a lot. I would rather cut a significant amount of

1376
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 5: weight than do an international flight.

1377
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 4: With three children.

1378
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 5: I mean stuff, dude, man. All right, thanks for your

1379
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 5: thoughts and prayers. We're right back on Monday. We'll recap

1380
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 5: the China card and then look ahead to UFC double header,

1381
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 5: so ten picks probably from Ken Flow next week. We

1382
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 5: have UFC shows November thirtieth in Vegas, December first in Adelaide, Australia.

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01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 5: With that for the flow, I'm John Ana. Thank you

1384
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 5: all very much for listening. We will talk to you

1385
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 5: next week. Until then, May Rocky BJJ.

1386
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