1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. It was a disastrous 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: day on Capitol Hill for the Democrats. Muller seemed like 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: someone just woke him up from a nap of about 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: fifteen years. We'll work out the latest here, my friends, 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: on what this means for the collusion narrative, the obstruction delusion, 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. Plus some other news 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: stories on the buck Sexton Show. Buck Sexton Remissions, decoding 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: the news and disseminating information with actionable intelligence. Make no 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: mistake American Ready, you're a great American again. This is 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. Former CIA analysts. Remember, I can 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: speak to three hours without a phone call. Try doing 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: that sometime. Set. He had a very good day today, 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: the Republican Party, our country. There was no defense of 14 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: what Robert Mueller was trying to defend. In all fairness, 15 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Sir Robert Mueller, whether his performance was a bad one 16 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: or a good one, I think everybody understands that. I 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: think everybody understands what's going on. There was no defense 18 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: to this ridiculous hoax, this witch hunt that's been going 19 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: on for a long time, pretty much from the time 20 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: I came down on the escalator with our first lady, 21 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: and it's a disgrace what happened. But I think today 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: proved a lot to everybody. In fact, some of my 23 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: biggest opponents wrote things today that I wouldn't have believed 24 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: they would have written, and I appreciate that they did. 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: That this has been a very bad thing for our country, 26 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: and despite everything we've been through, it's been an incredible 27 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: two and a half years for our country. Welcome to 28 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: the buck Sex and show my friends, it's a good 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: day for America, A good day. I've been waiting for 30 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: this one, and I did not really expect it to 31 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: be quite as good as it was. I thought that 32 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: there would be at least more of a of a 33 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: competency on display on Capitol Hill when you had Bob 34 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: Muller there, Saint Muller. Let's just do a quick review 35 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: that you won't get from the rest of the media. 36 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: They were singing Christmas carols about this guy. Remember that 37 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: producer Mike Christmas, we wish you a Muller Christmas. Big celebrities, 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, famous Hollywood people. Sat Muller was going to 39 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: deliver America from the scourge of Trumpism. And also recall 40 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: that just like they did with James Comey, who we 41 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: were told was an unimpeachable beloved by his fellow FBI agents, 42 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: super government superhero. Turned out he's a sanctimonious jerk and 43 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: a lanky, unself aware weirdo. Now we were told that 44 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Muller was the sharpest of prosecutors, the smartest, the best 45 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: of the best, the most ethical, and then today it's 46 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: like they made mister Magoo appear on the witness stand. 47 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Mueller seemed to be the guy 48 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: at the end of a Scooby Doo episode. Who if 49 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't for you, kid, I would have gotten away 50 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: with it. Because he didn't know anything. He didn't know 51 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: what was going on. He said stuff that was jaw dropping, 52 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: jaw dropping. Doesn't know what fusion GPS is? What? Whoo? Who? Who? What? What? Mike? 53 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: You got something for me there? What was that you wanted? Laughing? Oh, 54 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Mikea's It is truly true. It is a mix of 55 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: I was laughing was it was comical, and I was 56 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: laughing because it was pathetic. It was insane today's folks, 57 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: it was insane, It really was. I thought that they'd 58 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: be able to pull it together more than the Democrats 59 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: and pull it together more than they did. Let what 60 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: is this single biggest takeaway, the number one thing that 61 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I want you to remember from today's entire fiasco on 62 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: For those of you who I watched it, and a 63 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: lot of you I'm sure it didn't watch it. So 64 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: let me just tell you what the most important thing 65 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: for you to know is. This is what came out 66 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: of all of this. What we saw, beyond any doubt, 67 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: tells us that Muller was just a figurehead who was 68 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: giving a degree of swamp gravitas to this sham of 69 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: an investigation, while his deputies, who were Democrat partisans, ran 70 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: this whole thing day to day as the absurd witch 71 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: hunt that it was. They called it the Muller Report 72 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: because it would have been too obvious if they called 73 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: it what it was, which is the Weissman and Company Report. 74 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: All those Democrats, all those left wing anti trumpers that 75 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Mueller hired. It wasn't that Mueller was the one calling 76 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the shots. Really they were the ones. They were the 77 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: ones who were involved in the day to day. Muller 78 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: was just there so that Democrats in the media could 79 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: bleat like sheep. And how Mueller is a Republican, and 80 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: Muller has an impeccable record, and Mueller served as country 81 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: and so you can't criticize him. Muller was a cover story, 82 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: I think. For giving him the benefit of the doubt, 83 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: we have to say that Muller was really a fig leaf. 84 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: That's why he was and he was mine to do it. 85 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: He was willing to do it because he does not 86 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: like this president. He's an establishment figure. He is, as 87 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: it came out today, a friend of Komi's. So while 88 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: I would like to feel some degree of sympathy for 89 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: mister McGoo muller, I can't. And I'm a nice guy. 90 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Anybody who works in this businessill tell you I'm actually 91 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: really not probably too nice, I know, and too humble. 92 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Maybe not too humble, but definitely too nice. But I 93 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: can't feel bad for mister McGoo muller because he had 94 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: no problem threatening, bankrupting, ruining, imprisoning people all along in 95 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: this whole sham of an investigation for the most minor 96 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: of crimes, in what he had to know was a 97 00:06:53,600 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: politically motivated investigation, all based on a lie. He ruined 98 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: people or allowed them to be ruined in his name, 99 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: which is just as bad. I heard one of the 100 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: congressmen I can't even remember which one say that. Well, 101 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: what we really need to know here is that Muller 102 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: took a that he was trying to be fair minded here, 103 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: that he acted with restraint was what one of the 104 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: Democrat members of Congress acted with restraint. This guy sent 105 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: thirty dudes with long guns and tactical gear into Roger 106 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Stone's house at five o'clock in the morning to make 107 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: sure that he didn't get any ideas when he was 108 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: in his silk pajamas. I mean, let's not completely deny reality, 109 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: and just remember that the Libs were in a total 110 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: frenzy over how they said Attorney General Barr, who compared 111 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: bars performance under scrutiny and on the press to Muller. 112 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask everybody this. You're accused of murder in 113 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: a small town in the South where there was a 114 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: guy driving away from the quickie mart, and you only 115 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: got one phone call, and it's going to be to 116 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: your cousin, a tough talking Italian American from Queens in 117 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: New York City. Do you want that cousin in this case, 118 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: perhaps named Vinnie, to be of the skills of say 119 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Bill Barr, or of Bob Mueller. I think all of 120 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: you would want Barr defending you if your life was 121 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: on the line in a court. I really do. If 122 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: you're facing the chair, I think you want to have 123 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Barr and not Mueller, because Muller seemed like he had 124 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: no idea what was going on today. Really, but they 125 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: were in such a frenzy because they said that Barr 126 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: didn't have enough time to read through the report before 127 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: he gave his prescott. How could he know? How could 128 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: he have known that? It turns out that Mueller definitely 129 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: didn't write the report and maybe didn't even really read 130 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: it all that closely two years, tens of millions of dollars, 131 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: and this is where we are now, this is this 132 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: is the the moments where we got backstage and we 133 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: saw who was behind the Wizard of Oz and it 134 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: was not impressive, unimpressive at all, Just like with Comy. 135 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: Remember Comy was gonna Comey, was gonna take down Trump, 136 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: and then we found out that he was sanct a 137 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: sanctimonious clown. Avenati was gonna take down Trump. And now 138 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: he's facing two serious federal indictments, including one in which 139 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: he is alleged to have stolen millions of dollars from 140 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: a paraplegic client. Avenati was talked about as a possible 141 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: presidential contender to defeat Trump. This is how desperate libs 142 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: are for some anti Trump figure to emerge. And then 143 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Muller was the greatest anti Trump figure of all. Certainly 144 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: not the clown show they're presenting in these democratic debates. 145 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: They got to do a lot better than this. But 146 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: now we see that Muller is not who we were 147 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: led to believe. Wow, maybe we shouldn't believe the mainstream 148 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: corporate leftist media anymore. I know, if you listen to 149 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: this show, you probably already know that what a what 150 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: a what a disaster it was today. I mean, Mueller, 151 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: for one, had had a whole bunch of moments. You 152 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: just said to yourself, how exactly, how exactly did this 153 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: guy get into this position? Play listen? I mean he 154 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: was confused a lot. Play clip five. The president committed 155 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: the crime of instruction. You could not publicly state that 156 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: in your report or here today. Can you repeat the question, sir? 157 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to repeat that for me. Individual is 158 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: in fact obligated to provide what's being demanded by the 159 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: regulation or statute? Meaning you don't have any wiggle room, right, 160 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: I'd have to look more closely at the statute. I 161 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: just read it to you, and where are you reading 162 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: from on that I'm reading for my question? Then? Could 163 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: you repeat it? Okay? Is that correct on the screen? 164 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: And can you repeat the question? And now that I 165 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: have the language on the screen, is it correct? What 166 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: was the question? Fine? Can you read the last question? 167 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: What last question was? I got it accurate? Attorney number 168 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: two in the Inspector General's support and Struck both worked 169 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: on your team, didn't they? Can ask they both worked 170 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: on your team, didn't they? I know I heard Struck? 171 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: Who else are you calling about Attorney number two identified 172 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: in the Inspector General's report? Okay? And the question was 173 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: I heard? I watched this. I mean I was hearing 174 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: all the questions. Is the audio better sitting in my 175 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: living room than it was in the committee room? I 176 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: don't think so. I suppose that's possible. That was actually 177 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: pre Berrara, a coomy protege. By the way, That tells 178 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: you all you have to know about that guy. Now, 179 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: a CNN analyst, former US attorney for eight or US 180 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: Attorney for for the Southern District of New York. He 181 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: went on CNN and said that the real problem here 182 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: was that the questions were too fast and unclear. That's 183 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: how desperate that this is. CNN's like top top dog 184 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: on air analysts. You know, this is their their number 185 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: one legal guy other than Jeffrey Tuban, who's just like, 186 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what to say about that guy. 187 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: You want to know what the wrong legal analysis is, 188 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: watch Jeffrey Tuban on CNN. He is very consistent in 189 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: how incorrect he is. But the whole thing was just 190 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: it was a mess, and I think there was some disbelief. 191 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for the other side to look this 192 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: incompetent and oh yes, by the way, the Mullaprobe is 193 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: the other side. This was not This was not a 194 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: good faith effort. We're past that now, folks. We've been 195 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: passed it for a while. But after today, it's crazy 196 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: town to think that this was not just a get 197 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: Trump effort. I haven't even gotten into some of the 198 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: better moment. We got to get into some of the 199 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: better moments with the with the Republican members of Congress. 200 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: They did bring out some interesting, interesting questions. But wow, 201 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: not a good day for mister mcgumuller. I gotta tell 202 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: you did not look good for from at all. And 203 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was a legal and FBI superhero here 204 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: to rid us of the scourge of Trumpism. Turns out 205 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: that they used him, or maybe he allowed himself to 206 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: be used. But he was just a front, a facade 207 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: meant to give some degree of establishment sanctioned credibility to 208 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: an effort to overturn the results of the twenty sixteen 209 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: election using the apparatus of the government itself. It's a 210 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: good thing for Democrats. It's National Tequila Day because I 211 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: think they're gonna need it. We'll be right back, Director Mueller. 212 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Can you state with confidence that the Steel dossier was 213 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: not part of Russia's disinformation campaign with regard to the 214 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: steel That's beyond my purview. No, it is exactly your purview, 215 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: Director Muller. And here's why. Only one of two things 216 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: is possible. Right. Either Steele made this whole thing up 217 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: and there were never any Russians telling him of this 218 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: vast criminal conspiracy that you didn't find, or Russians lied 219 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: to Steel. Now, if Russians were lying to Steele to 220 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: undermine our confidence in our duly elected president. That would 221 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: seem to be precisely your purview because you stated in 222 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: your opening that the organizing principle was to fully and 223 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: thoroughly investigate Russia's interference. But you weren't interested in whether 224 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: not Russians were interfering through Christopher Steele. And if Steel 225 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: was lying, then you should have charged him with lying, 226 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: like you charged a variety unto other people. But you 227 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: say nothing about this in your report, nothing about the 228 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Steel dossier, the basis of this whole thing. Folks, Without 229 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: the Steel dossier, you don't have the fires are warrants, 230 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: you don't have Carter Page. I mean, you could argue 231 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: maybe based on the Papadopoulos FBI investigation, but that wasn't 232 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna that wasn't gonna cut the mustard, as they say, 233 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: does anyone actually cut mustard? That phrase makes no s 234 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: does it. I just realized this is that A Yeah, 235 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: not in the sense that you're from Philly. You're probably 236 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: a mustard guy. Yeah, I'm in New York. Yeah, and 237 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: one of those fancy guys. All right, back to business. 238 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: So Gates, Gates is right. The dossier isn't covered in 239 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: this really at all. And you got to say to yourself, hmm, 240 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Muller can't talk about that now. Hopefully it'll come out 241 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: of the Inspector General report. Um. But this is an 242 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: important reminder. The Steel dossier may in fact itself have 243 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: been Russian disinformation. And the Steel dossier and the process 244 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: by which the Clinton campaign contracted, through a law firm 245 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: on behalf of the DNC, to use a foreigner to 246 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: go get information from foreign subsources, in this case Russians, 247 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: and to not just tell the press that information, but 248 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: to run that information back through our own intelligence community. 249 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: That is the only foreign interference in the election that 250 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have been 251 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: on behalf of a willing and witting campaign. The Democrats 252 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: colluded with a foreigner to try to destroy Trump, and 253 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: not only did they go to the press with it, 254 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: they went to our own intelligence community and to deep 255 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: state elements therein and use them to do their dirty work. 256 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: Representative Ratcliffe today he got in on that action. I 257 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at Ratcliffe. High five for him. 258 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, he was good. Yeah, I thoughts too. He 259 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: stuck the landing it was pretty solid. Play play Cliff three. 260 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Which DJ policy or principle set forth a legal standard 261 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: that an investigated person is not exonerated if their innocence 262 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: from criminal criminal conduct is not conclusively determined. Where does 263 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: that language come from? Director? Where is the DOJ policy 264 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: that says that? Can you let me make it easier there? 265 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: Can you give me an example other than Donald Trump 266 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: where the Justice Department determined that an investigated person was 267 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: not exonerated because their innocence was not conclusively determined. I cannot, 268 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: but this is unique. Okay, well you can't. Time is short, 269 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I've got five minutes. Let's just leave it. You can't 270 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: find it because I'll tell you why it doesn't exist. 271 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: Not exonerated is not a standard that we use. Not 272 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: only did they try and ambush Trump and create this 273 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: whole hoax to go after him, but they're so shameless 274 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: in their anti Trump zeal. The Democrats are so desperate 275 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: to find some way to destroy this president that they 276 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: have come up with it an entirely new and only 277 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: applicable to Trump. Mind you, standard of jurisprudence that only 278 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: applies in this situation, and that means that Trump could 279 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: never could never escape the taint of this whole thing, 280 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: and that was always the point, that was always the purpose. 281 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: Is it really surprising you have Democrats here in New 282 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: York State who are who want to change the law 283 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: just so they can get Trump's tax returns. They'll do anything, 284 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: they'll destroy the law as much as they need to 285 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: in order to get after this president. And the fact 286 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: that Trump is still standing and still doing a great 287 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: job must drive them even more insane, if that is 288 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: possible for Libs at this point, which is an open question. 289 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: So how bad a day was it for the Democrats? 290 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: The Russia collusion narrative, the anti Trump forces and all 291 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: the rest of them. How bad was it? Well, Democrats 292 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: had to call a little impromptu oh my gosh, how 293 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: do we put out this fire press conference late in 294 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: the day. It happened right before we went on air. 295 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: We have some of that for you. Year. Adam Schiff 296 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: aka Shifty Shift, he had things to say like this 297 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: play twenty two today. The director outlined in powerful words, 298 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: how Russia intervened massively in our election systematically, in a 299 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: sweeping fashion. How during the course of that intervention they 300 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: made multiple approaches to the Trump campaign, and far from 301 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: shunning that foreign involvement in our election, the Trump campaign 302 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: welcomed it, made full use of it, put it into 303 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: its communications and messaging strategy, and then lied about it, 304 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: light about it to cover it up, light about it 305 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: to obstruct the investigation into that very attack on our democracy. Yeah, 306 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: we've been hearing that for months there, shifty Schiff. None 307 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: of that was new. But thanks for showing up and 308 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: giving us the usual talking points. Here are some key 309 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: things he leaves out. There were approaches made to the 310 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: Trump campaign, none of which were acted on. Nothing there 311 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: was there was no collusion, There was no working together 312 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: and his into their messaging strategy. Oh you mean like 313 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: reporting on what was dumped by wiki leaks on the 314 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: internet like the rest of the world did. I mean, 315 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: but Schiff has the really the the the the warm 316 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: human connection of a of the you know, with the 317 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: with the eyes of a mako shark and the ethics 318 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: of a rattlesnake. I mean, that's really what you're dealing 319 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: with with Adam Schiff. So that should not be surprising 320 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: at all. Oh, Nancy Pelosi, he's a pad Why Uh? 321 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: She had a she had an interesting day to day 322 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure thinking that it was going to be a 323 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: big victory lap and you know MSNBC. I mean the 324 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: way CNN, I really think that they're trying to set 325 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: some kind of Guinness World record for how many legal 326 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: analysts they can put on TV. At the same time, 327 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: it looked like at it like they must have had 328 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: about sixteen to them in a row. I don't know 329 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: what producer thinks that that's a good look and a 330 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: cool idea, but CNN's ratings seemed to suggest that maybe 331 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: it's not the brilliant strategy they think it is. But 332 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: here's what Pelosi, that's your hat. Here's what she had 333 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: to say. Twenty three. The President likes to have his 334 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: poster that said the Muller reports took this many days, 335 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: because this much money, this, that, and the other. But 336 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: we have a corresponding, competitive, contradictory chart. Muller investigation by 337 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: the numbers, forty million dollars recovered for the US government. 338 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: Remember he said how much it would cost less than that. 339 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Thirty seven people and entities charged with crimes, twenty five 340 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: ongoing criminal cases referred, seven convicted, including five top Trump 341 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: campaign officials. And then he had no collision. Know this event, 342 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: ten instances of obstruction, Yes, no exoneration. I mean it's 343 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: it's like Nancy is desperate to spoon feed the ridiculous 344 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: talking points to the left, the left wing media, in 345 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: advance of their primetime show. She's like, plays stay odd message. 346 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Here's what you have to say, Matt al Tapper, here's 347 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: what you have to do. The thirties my favorite of 348 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: all these. I mean, they're just they're just juicing the numbers. 349 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: My favorite is thirty seven people and entities charged with crimes. 350 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Why isn't it just people? Oh, that's right, because what 351 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: is it? Fifteen of that thirty seven, I think almost 352 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: what is it? Almost half are Russians who are named 353 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: in an indictment, who will never set foot in the 354 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: US court. But I'm sure they're terrified. I'm sure. Oh, 355 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: the long arm of Muller's justice is coming for them, 356 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: if Muller can put down the sippy cup and the 357 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: blankie and you know, have enough concentration in order to 358 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: go after them. I mean, the whole thing was just absurd. 359 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: It really was. Thirty seven people and entities charged twenty 360 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: five ongoing criminal cases. Referred that that doesn't mean anything. 361 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: And when you look at what the charges have been, 362 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: and this is what they always leave out of it. 363 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: The charges all have nothing to do with Russian collusion. 364 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: The charges all have nothing to do with the the 365 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: heart of the of this whole theory, the whole case. 366 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: But you know that they seem to think that if 367 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: you get someone who's lying about what they had for 368 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: breakfast last week, that's a win for the Justice Department. 369 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: Oh sure, it is about absolutely absolutely. I'm trying to 370 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: find where the where Muller. Oh, here's here's a little 371 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: important point. They obstruction is what they're trying to hang 372 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: their hat on. Now. It's oh, but there was obstruction, 373 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: ten counts of obstruction. It turns out that that's a 374 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: problem for them because to obstruct, you generally have to obstruct. 375 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: That did not happen here. Play clip seven. And you 376 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: can't confirm you're no longer special counsel. Correct, I am 377 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: no longer special counsel At any time with the investigation. 378 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Was your investigation curtailed or stopped or handed No, were 379 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: you or your team provide any questions Members of Congress 380 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: of the Majority ahead of your hearing today? No, So, 381 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: the whole theory. Now for the Democrats of why they 382 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: should maybe I thought after today they'd have to they'd 383 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: have to be crazy to go for impeachment. But then 384 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: again I keep saying they're crazy, So maybe what I'm 385 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: telling you is, of course they're going to impeach. But 386 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: the whole theory now rests on obstruction. Yet when mother 387 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: talks about the ten acts of obstruction, it never actually happened. 388 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: There was no obstruction. If the President of the United 389 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: States had wanted to shut this thing down, he could 390 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: have just actually shut it down, and then there'd be 391 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: a fight over whether or not he's constitutionally allowed to 392 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: do that. And I think a lot of people would say, 393 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: based on the hoax that this whole thing was, you 394 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: cannot obstruct an illegitimate investigation. But they're now, I mean, 395 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: I know you're running in these these circles. Here're like, 396 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: wait a second, what how can he obstruct an investigation 397 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: that he did not obstruct, and that if he had 398 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: obstructed or at least stopped, he would have been justified 399 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: in doing because the whole thing was a farce, And 400 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: people say, oh, buck, but what about the Russian interference? 401 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: There was no need for a special counsel to investigate 402 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Russian interference. The Department of Justice could have done that 403 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: like a normal federal investigation. There's no need, there's no 404 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: need for a special chain of command. The whole reason, 405 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: the whole rationale for the Muller involvement in this form 406 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: are being the figurehead, as we know for a bunch 407 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: of angry Democrats to try to get at Trump was 408 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: because the White House was implicated, and now they try 409 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: to walk away from that. Oh no, but look about 410 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: look at the Russian interference the election. By the way, 411 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: has anything changed since then? Has there been any accounting 412 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: for what happened in the now? Of course not, my friends, 413 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: It's just all spasms of rage, seething fury from the 414 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: left at Trump for winning the twenty sixteen election and 415 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: then trying to find legal rationalizations for that and some 416 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: legal panacea for what ails the left. It's not Russian collusion, 417 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: it's not obstruction. You know what we saw today ails 418 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: the left. You know what really is their ultimate problem? 419 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is president of the United States. So the 420 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: report did not conclude that he did not commit instruction justice? 421 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Is that correct? That is correct? And what about total exoneration. 422 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: Did you actually totally exonerate the president? The finding indicates 423 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: that the president, uh was not that the president was 424 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed. In fact, 425 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: you were talking about incidents quote in which the president 426 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: sought to use his official power outside of usual channels 427 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: un to exert undue influence over your investigations. Is that right? 428 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: That's correct? This is the new standard, folks. What does 429 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: the left say? How does the left present these issues? Now? 430 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: You have to be proven, not just beyond a reasonable 431 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt if you're charged, if you're not charged. 432 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: The standard is that you have to have beyond a 433 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt the absence of evidence that they were not 434 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: even able to find. This is from the Muller Report. 435 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: All right, let me just and I think this is 436 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: in many ways the single most important line other than 437 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: there was no finding of collusion or conspirator, which was 438 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: the basis of this whole thing. That was all lie, 439 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: didn't exist, it was all farce. But if you want 440 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: to get a real sense of the intellectual dishonesty at 441 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: the heart of the entire Muller probe, there is a 442 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: line from the report that says the following quote. A 443 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does 444 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: not mean there was no evidence of those facts. How 445 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: can Why are you including that in an investigative report 446 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: about what are alleged to be very serious crimes that 447 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: change the course of a presidential election and with it 448 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: world history. Well, just because there's not stuff that we 449 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: could show you, it doesn't mean we can tell you 450 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: definitively that that stuff doesn't exist. Imagine that. Imagine that 451 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: someone's accused of being a rapist and the attorney general, well, 452 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm not the attorney general the district. That would be 453 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: quite a case. The district attorney walks out on the 454 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: steps of the courthouse in whatever town. They say, So, 455 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: it turns out there's absolutely zero evidence that we can 456 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: present that, you know, John Doe here is a rapist. However, 457 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: do not take the inability that we have to present 458 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: evidence of this guy being a rapist now as definitive 459 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: proof that he is not a rapist. That is what 460 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: they did to Trump two years, forty million dollars or 461 00:29:51,960 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and the presentation of countless witnesses and 462 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: documents and everything, and they weren't able to prove it, 463 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: and now their line is, well, just because we couldn't 464 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: prove it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Why do we 465 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,239 Speaker 1: even have a justice system, then, why not just have 466 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: a blind allegation system where you just get to say 467 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: whatever you want about somebody and then they should suffer 468 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: consequences even without the presentation of any evidence. The Democratic 469 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Party is willing to throw centuries. They've done it with Kavanaugh, 470 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: and now they've done it with Trump, and they will 471 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: do it again. They will throw centuries of Anglo Saxon, English, 472 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: American common law and jurisprudence in the incinerator if it 473 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: means that they can get their way politically tomorrow. They 474 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: don't care. They will the hope or the stuff that 475 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: our entire system is based on. I mean, the rule 476 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: of law is really one of the areas where we 477 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: are most distinct, where we separate ourselves from so many 478 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: other societies all over the world. System we have to 479 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: protect individuals from the state and from the unfair, unjust 480 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: allegations or accusations of their fellow citizens. He's one of 481 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: the things that really does distinguish us from all these 482 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: other countries and Democrats will they will tear the whole 483 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: thing down. They will just rip all. They will kick 484 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: at the load bearing walls of Western civilization. They don't care. 485 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: That's how much they hate Trump. And that's what we 486 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: have seen today. This is also why they've had this 487 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: absolutely pathetic press conference they just held right right before 488 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: I came on air, right before what was it like 489 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: five fifty pm Eastern? The Democrats have this conference they 490 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: hold where they get one after another. You know, you 491 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: get Nadler and Schiff and Pelosi and me, and they're 492 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: just you know, they're acting like they're on the Rachel 493 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Maddow Show, one after another, trying to make the case 494 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: to the audience. So no, no, it's where Trump still 495 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: is a you know, Trump is still really bad. He's 496 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: still colluded in an obstruction and obstruction Uh no, no, 497 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: fair minded person. You know, there's there's what. There's what 498 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: you can take the law and expand it to include 499 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: if you're willing to just not use any reason or 500 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: or a good judgment. No fair minded person thinks, Oh, 501 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: President Trump's reaction to a political hit and all the 502 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: lies that went into that against him, his reaction to 503 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: that unfair attack should be enough to destroy people always 504 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: talking about Nixon and oh, Nixon and water getting to 505 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: cover up. Nixon was trying to cover up doing bad stuff. 506 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: The stuff wasn't even like that bad, but it was bad. 507 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad, but he was trying to cover 508 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: up stuff he did that was wrong. Trump didn't do 509 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: anything wrong, and the Democrats come to you and say, oh, 510 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: but he would like to have if he had been 511 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: able to cover up not doing anything wrong. This is 512 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: what crazy people think. This is Trump's arrangement syndrome. This 513 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: is a massed illusion. This is only possible in an 514 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: era of social media, echo chambers and sound bite television 515 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: and all the things that have allowed the narrative on 516 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: the left to become so deeply entrenched in the minds 517 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: of a majority of the Democratic Party at this point, 518 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean a true majority of them. I mean the 519 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: president was not exculpated for what he did. Okay, well 520 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: guess what. He also wasn't charged with anything. Well, they say, oh, 521 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: but they're big, they're big. Moment that I was supposed 522 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: to be. Muller saying to Ted Lou Congressman Lou of 523 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: California that the reason he did not charge was because 524 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: of the Office of Legal Council opinion. Turns out that's 525 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: not even not even what lou or rather, that's not 526 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: even Mueller said. He said, you know, there you go. 527 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: That's that's what it is. That's what's going on, folks, 528 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: Just lies and lies and lies. Democrats trying to clean 529 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: clean up the mess that they made today. They wanted this, 530 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: remember that they wanted it. They wanted they're gonna get it, 531 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: and they got it. Let's have Mueller up there. Let's 532 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: create this whole circus. We'll capitalize on this one. I 533 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: love it. I saw a headline on or rather a 534 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: thing on CNN that ninety House Democrats, ninety House Democrats, 535 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: um still want to impeach the present. They want to 536 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: move to impeach. These people are nuts. They want to 537 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: impeach the after today they they bell of belly, they 538 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: belly flop in the shallow end of the pool, and 539 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: then they want to tell us all that they're actually 540 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Olympic divers. I mean, this is just it's beyond comprehension. 541 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're trying so hard to make this about 542 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: something that it's not. But you know, this is this 543 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: is the problem. They've They've all tied their careers, the 544 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: Democrats have tied their credibility to and they this has 545 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: been a credibility self immolation for two years. There's no 546 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: turning back now, there's no walking it back. Now they 547 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: are what they are. Man. I gotta say it was 548 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of cathartic today to watch 549 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: this though what it would a preposterous joke, this whole 550 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: investigation was. And who's been more correct in the substance 551 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: Trump saying this was a witch hunt than it was 552 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: unfair and it was Democrats or the Democrats saying this 553 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: is about protecting our democracy. Yeah, I don't think so. 554 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: Who had the best day to day? We know Muller 555 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: had a bad day, that's for sure, But who had 556 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: a really strong showing for muller time on Capitol Hill. 557 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: I've got some ideas for you. I think Jim Jordan, 558 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: you could argue, had the single most effective day of 559 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: anybody on Capitol Hill, although Ratcliffe also had had some 560 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: really good stuff that I didn't even know Congress and 561 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: Ratcliffe very well before, but I think he did a 562 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: great job. But Jim Jordan more or less put the 563 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: whole Russia collusion delusion in a half nelson and made 564 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: it cry uncle like that wrestling terminology. I don't know 565 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: if you know this. Not only does Jim Jordan not 566 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: wear suit jackets in public, it's a real thing. But 567 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: he was a champion state level wrestler back in the day. 568 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: But here's what Jim Jordan with a with a body 569 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: slam of the collusion delusion. What's interesting. You can charge 570 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: thirteen Russians no one's ever heard of, no one's ever seen, 571 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: no one's ever going to hear of him, no one's 572 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: ever going to see him. If you can charge them. 573 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: You can charge all kinds of people who are around 574 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: the president with false statements. But the guy who launches 575 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: every the guy who puts this whole story in motion, 576 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: you can't charge him. I think that's amazing. Certain, I'm 577 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: not certain I agree with your characterizations. Well, I'm reading 578 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: from your report. Miffson told Papadopolis. Papadopolis tells the diplomat, 579 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: the diplomat tells the FBI. The FBI opens the investigation 580 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: July thirty one, twenty sixteen, And here we are three 581 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: years later, July of twenty nineteen. The country's been put 582 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: through this, and the central figure who launches at all 583 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: lies to us, and you guys don't hunt him down 584 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: and interview him again, and you don't charge him with 585 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: the crime. Yeah, why is that? M Give it some thought. 586 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: What are the chances, folks, that if this investigation was 587 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: really into anybody, anybody who might have colluded with the 588 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: Russians or been involved in this, not a single not 589 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: a single person identifiable as a Democrat was caught up 590 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: in any of this. What are the chances? Oh, okay, 591 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: let's look. Hillary Clinton can violate the Espionage Act over 592 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: a hundred times, her staff can help cover it up 593 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: and lie about and do whatever they want, and you know, 594 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: no one gets charged. We're supposed to believe that only 595 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: Republicans make minor misstatements of fact under oath. It seems 596 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: only Republican Democrats never do that. They commit huge crimes 597 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: and get away with them, but they don't do the 598 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: lying under oath about little things. Who believes this? No 599 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: one believes this. It's all a double standard. That's what 600 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: we are seeing here. This is what and you know, 601 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: it's just time that we stop pretending that this is 602 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: a coincidence. Or that this just happens because it's the 603 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: way that it is not true. Oh, you want some 604 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: more evidence of Buck's theorem on this one, that the 605 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: left gets it easy and the right gets it rough. 606 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: Why hasn't Andy McCabe of the FBI been criminally charged yet? 607 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: Anyone want to tell me that huh Andy McCabe lied, 608 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: according to the FBI's own inspector General, at least twice 609 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: under oath. Where are the criminal charges against him? Does 610 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: anyone want to offer up an explanation? The FBI's own 611 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: inspector General says that the FBI Acting director lied under 612 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: oath about leaks about matters of importance to a major investigation. 613 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: And he hasn't been charged with squat if sued, hasn't 614 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: in charge with anything. You know, you got know this? 615 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: Where where are the Democrats that just happened to say 616 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: the wrong thing the wrong time? Oh it didn't happen, 617 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: did it? Christopher Steele? They ever put him under oath 618 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: and really go through every go through everything that he 619 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: had to say, Well, we all know what's going on here, 620 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: and it's disgusting, it's disgusted. Just allow yourself to know 621 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: what you know it's unsettling. It is unsettling to think 622 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: that the Democrats could be this partisan, this lacking in ethics. 623 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: But that's what we are dealing with. So we need 624 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: to accept what the truth is here and act based 625 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: upon that truth. Here's what. By the way, Jim Jordan 626 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: also talked about the need speaking of Jim Jordan's body 627 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: slams they need to investigate the investigators. Here's the good news. 628 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: The president was falsely accused of conspiracy. The FBI does 629 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: a ten month investigation. James Cummy when we deposed him 630 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: a year ago, told us at that point they had nothing. 631 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: You do a twenty two month investigation. At the end 632 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: of that twenty two months, you find no conspiracy. And 633 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: what's the Democrats want to do? They want to keep investigating, 634 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: they want to keep going. Maybe a better course of action. 635 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: Maybe better course of action is to figure out how 636 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: the false accusation started. Maybe it's to go back and 637 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: actually figure out why Joseph Nipson was lying to the FBI. 638 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: And here's the good news. Here's the good news. That's 639 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: exactly what Bill Barr's doing, and thank goodness for that. 640 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: That's exactly what the Attorney General and John Durham are do. 641 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: They're going to find out why we went through this 642 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: three years time year in Naga and get to the bottom. 643 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: I would like us to get to the bottom. I'd 644 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: like to know what's going on here. And I think 645 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the American people who care about this investigation, 646 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: which is probably dwindling, is probably getting smaller day by day. 647 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: We're all just sick of this crap. The Democrats have 648 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: put us through. The sore loser I'm ready for her, 649 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: whoa Hillary. They won't give it up, and so we 650 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: all have to just deal with it. We all have 651 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: to get dragged through their lack of psychological stability, the 652 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: left's unwillingness to accept what has happened to this day. 653 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: That is where we are, that is what is going on. 654 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: We need answers here. I think the Inspector General report, 655 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this right now, my prediction. We 656 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: can replay this later. I'm gonna sound very prescient. I 657 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: have a feeling the Inspector General report is not is 658 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: not going to result in some Hallelujah moment of justice 659 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: for Trump and everything else, because they're going to try 660 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,439 Speaker 1: to protect the institution of the FBI, So they're gonna 661 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: pull up, They're gonna pull the punches at the end, 662 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: but oh, there's going to be some stuff and then 663 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: Inspector General report that makes this whole thing look even 664 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: dirtier than it is, and we'll watch the Democrats just 665 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: make fools of themselves trying to explain it all on TV. 666 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: Good news for them is they don't have any integrity 667 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: to protect. In fact is we are living in this 668 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: twenty first century new type of asymmetrical media warfare that 669 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: we're in. It. You have a propaganda machine on the right, 670 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: and let's what it is is a full fledged propaganda 671 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: machine on the right that the Democrats haven't figured out 672 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: how to come back very well. And I think they 673 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: took the trunk day, meaning they said, oh, yeah, you're 674 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: good at TV spectacles, We're gonna make a TV spectacle. 675 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's Chuck Todd, a moron. I know, he's 676 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: paid a lot of money and he's famous for reasons 677 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: that I couldn't tell you. Some TV executives must really 678 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: like him. At NBC, I could not explain to you 679 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: what the Chuck Todd skill set is. He's, as far 680 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: as I can tell, completely replaceable with about ten thousand 681 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: other local news anchors who are libs across the country. 682 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you what Chuck Todd's particulars. He's been 683 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: around the game a long time. I've never heard him 684 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: say anything insightful, never heard him say anything partically interesting. 685 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: In fact, it's just a lot of boilerplate lib nonsense. 686 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: But I think that's fascinating, the lack of self awareness 687 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: on a day like today, when the media was made 688 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 1: to look like a bunch of complete buffoons, for Chuck 689 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: Todd to then come out and say, oh, the right 690 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: has a propaganda machine and the left hasn't you know, 691 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: Or rather he would say, you know, the Democrats and 692 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: the real the good people, the real journalists, we haven't 693 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: figured out how to combat that. The right has a 694 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: propaganda machine. The left has a stranglehold on ninety percent 695 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: of journalism in this country, ninety percent of it. At least, 696 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: the left has a stranglehold on about ninety percent of 697 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: the federal bureaucracy. Based on donations in the twenty sixteen 698 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: campaign season to Hillary Clinton and based on my time 699 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: working for the federal government when there were just libs 700 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: a plenty, all over the place. Except the only place 701 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, I can talk about how I 702 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: love America and want to want to wave a flag, 703 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, on the fourth of July outside of my 704 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: house and not feel weird is around people from the military. Everybody, 705 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: like in the civil service or whatever. I mean, they 706 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: might be cool with it, but a lot of them are. 707 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: Allot of them are driving to work in a prius 708 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: nice kind of you know, vomit green color with a 709 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren bumper sticker on, you know, because 710 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: that's the ticket that they would really love to see. 711 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you get a lot of that in the 712 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: federal government. Think about it's people that go work for 713 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: the federal government tend to be risk averse. I'm not 714 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: saying everybody, please don't send me a message about your 715 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: amazing patriot. You know cousin who's who's in the FBI 716 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: and is a Republican and you know, serve four tours 717 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: in Iraq. Yeah, I love that guy too. I mean, 718 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about him this and I know people 719 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: like the federal government. I'm speaking about the general mass. 720 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: You know, this is like talking about college campuses. Yeah, 721 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: college campuses are full of libs. That's no question that 722 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: professors are libs. Most of the student body or libs. 723 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm not demeaning the amazing conservatives who 724 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: are standing up for themselves and their beliefs on campus 725 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: across the country. Of course not. They're awesome, right, But 726 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: is it wrong to say that campuses are libs are 727 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: liberal just because there are some conservatives. No, we have 728 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: to speak in some generalities here or else we can't 729 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: have a conversation about it at all. Back to the 730 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: point about Chuck Todd and the propaganda apparatus. It's so 731 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: much larger on the left, but he thinks it's a 732 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: problem on the right. He blames. He's blaming conservatives and 733 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: blaming in a Fox News and Talk radio which you're 734 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: listening to right now, Well, hello talk radio. Hey, listen 735 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: to Buck Sexton's propaganda machine on the Buck Sexton Show, 736 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 1: convincing you to love America and actually used your brain. 737 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: We could probably do that, like the top of the 738 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: show replaced the intro we've got right now, but hey, 739 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. The propaganda Machine. This 740 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: is where I always tell you that propaganda acquired I 741 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: just think it's a fun historical tidbit. Many of you 742 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: have heard me say it before, but I love you, 743 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: give me a little leeway. You had. Until the twentieth century, 744 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: propaganda really wasn't a necessarily a negative thing at all. 745 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: It started with the Catholic Church, and the propaganda defeated 746 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: the propagation of the faith, and it was supposed to 747 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: be a commission within the Vatican to make sure that 748 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: the proper Catholic faith was being spread all over the world. 749 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: And then later on, in really the First World War 750 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: and with the beginning of mass media and radio in particular, 751 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: propaganda took on this negative, negative term. But I think 752 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: that anybody you know propaganda, if it's just the continuation 753 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: of ideas, with the spread of ideas and the hope 754 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 1: that people will adopt them, I don't think it's necessarily 755 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: a bad thing at all. I am a propagandist for 756 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: America and for conservatism and for Judeo Christian values because 757 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: I think that they are right, and I tell you 758 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: that I think they are right, and I think everybody 759 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: should adopt them, and that would make us a better world, 760 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: a better country, a better world, you name it. But 761 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: the left has to come up with some explanation for 762 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 1: the dumpster fire that was the ambush of Trump over 763 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: the last two years, as evident from everything that we 764 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: saw today. I mean, what a what a what an 765 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: abject to buckle this whole thing was, I will tell you, 766 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: And I hate admitting when I don't nail something. I 767 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,439 Speaker 1: hate admitting it because I usually nailed things. I didn't 768 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,479 Speaker 1: think today would be as bad. On last night, on 769 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: on Brett Bear's show, I said, I said that it 770 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: would be as much about what wasn't said as what 771 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: was said, which was true. But I think that's a 772 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: pretty obvious point. You know, I graved myself not in 773 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: a curve. I know when I say I know when 774 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: I say insightful things on TV and when I'm like 775 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: just another just another you know, uh schmo with a 776 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: side part on air. And but the thing I did 777 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: say is it was well, was that, you know, Muller 778 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't do so well and that last press conference he 779 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: gave the one before today, So keep that in mind. 780 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 1: I knew that it it was possible. I did not think 781 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: it would be the the utter implosion that it was today. 782 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: I did not think that that was the case because 783 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: I figured the Democrats would have to have a better, 784 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: a better plan than this. I mean, they were leaking 785 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: that they were running through uh you know, they were 786 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: running through scenarios, they were doing mock Muller testimony stuff. 787 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: It's just just amazing, it really really is it really 788 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: is that this is, this is where we are. So 789 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: now they blame uh, now they blame a Probably it's 790 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: Republicans fault that Muller couldn't make this sound credible. It's 791 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: Republicans fault that because it's our propaganda machine. How how 792 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: pathetic is that? And I also noticed that there was 793 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: there's this effort to say that you can't, you can't 794 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 1: come out and criticize that. Muller seemed like a dottering, 795 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: dottering old fool. What was the thing that Kim Jong 796 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: unseid about Trump? Again? He called them this before they 797 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: quote fell in love? What did he call them? A heard? 798 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: I think right? A Dtaard Doddard. One of the rare 799 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: times I learned a word from the news cycle and 800 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 1: international relations. I did not know the word dotard until 801 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: Kim Jong unused it, at least in translation to talk 802 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump. But if you said that Muller was 803 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 1: looking like he had lost a step, like he wasn't 804 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: really with it, like he didn't know what's going on. 805 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: There's Oh, Muller is a patriot and he's amazing. He's fantastic. 806 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: He's a great man. He served his country in the 807 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: military and everything I said, you know what, that's how 808 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: could I do anything other than respect the man's service 809 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: in Vietnam. It's fantastic, the service need in Vietnam, it's brave. 810 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people wouldn't do it, didn't do it. 811 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 1: A lot of people in politics on both sides no 812 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 1: interest in serving. So yeah, of course I'm not talking 813 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,720 Speaker 1: about that though, And if we're gonna play that game, 814 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: why is it that that Muller is beyond reproach and 815 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: criticism as a person because he served in the uniform. 816 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 1: But but our our friend, General General Flynn, who served 817 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: over thirty years in the United States military, he should 818 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: get fed to the wolves because he misremembered something that 819 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: he said to some FBI agents who he thought were 820 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 1: on his team when he was in the White House. 821 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: And it was all a set up by Sally Yates 822 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: and a bunch of other left wing hacks. Oh, Flynn is. 823 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: Flynn is are an agent of Russia and he's a 824 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: trader because because he lied about something that wasn't illegal, 825 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: that nobody should really care about. Blah blah blah. That's 826 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: what they say. You'll have no standards whatsoever. You know, 827 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: you can trash Flynn all day long, even though he 828 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: served for thirty years. But if you if you trash Muller, 829 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: you're a girl going after his service. These are just 830 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: the games they play. They hope they scare you off 831 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: the truth with it. But the other one is and 832 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: I've seen the same journalist, the same jour knows, the 833 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: same leftist activist pretending to be object active sources of 834 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: news that are out there that we're saying. I have 835 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: been saying that Trump is crazy, I mean actually not 836 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: of sound mind, having some kind of men or not 837 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: just a mental breakdown. But they'll say that he is 838 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: a scenile, that he's he's an insane person. If you 839 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,240 Speaker 1: point out that it did look like Muller was brought 840 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: out of a retirement community to give this at you know, 841 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: no offense or retirement communities. But it did seem like 842 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: this guy wasn't exactly at his freshest and best for 843 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: the most explosive political investigation of my lifetime. Oh, disrespectful, 844 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: how could you? And everything goes okay, so Trump, you know, 845 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 1: seventy three year old Trump's state of mind and or 846 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: i should say, mental faculties. That's open season for the 847 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: left all the time. That's no problem. But you make 848 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: the same case based on actual evidence about Muller, and 849 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: you're a bad person who's being disrespectful of his service, 850 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: disrespectful of his age. Sorry, I'm just not going to 851 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: let them play that game. We need one standard by 852 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: which we evaluate any issue of importance in public life. 853 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 1: We need one standard. No more double standards. We need 854 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: one rule of law that applies equally to both sides, 855 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: left and right, Democrat and Republican. No more of this kid, 856 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: gloves for Hillary and broken glass all over the gloves 857 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: for anybody around Trump. All right? That, No, that cannot 858 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: stand anymore. This pole society's apart. You want to talk 859 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: about undermining institutions. One of the favorite complaints of the left. 860 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: Double standards undermine all our institutions. And we saw that today. 861 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: A lot of conservatives in particular, would say that the 862 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: rise in Islamophobia is a result lot of hate, but 863 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: a fear, a legitimate fear. They say of quote unquote 864 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: Johnnie terrorism, whether it's Forthood or San Bernardino or the 865 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: recent truck attack in New York, what do you say 866 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,959 Speaker 1: to them? I would say, our country should be more 867 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: fearful of of of white man across our country because 868 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 1: they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country. 869 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: We should be profiling, monitoring, and creating policies to fight 870 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: the radicalization of white men. White people are the problem. 871 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: Ilhanomar says, that's what she said. I'm not we played 872 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: the audio. White man are the problem. White men are 873 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: the threat. Now I thought I thought that was a 874 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: racist thing to say, right, it's a stupid thing to say. 875 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: But if she's gonna say it, and now we're going 876 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: to give in the realm of let's have a discussion 877 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: about this, okay, Ilhanomar, let's talk. I assume this is 878 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: in reference. I know it's in reference to the recent 879 00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: report the FBI says that most of their extremist investigations 880 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: terrorism investigations are of white nationalists or white supremacists or 881 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: whatever that may be. I actually know something about this 882 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: because unlike ninety five percent of people in the media, 883 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: I worked in counter terrorism and had to day in 884 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: and day out look at cases, deal with cases. This 885 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: is that That was my life for years. So let 886 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: me explain something to missus ilhan Omar. If she's going 887 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: to talk about the threat, engaging the threat and who 888 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: we should be concerned about and who we should profile 889 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: or devote resources too, then you have to you have 890 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: to look at the numbers, and by the numbers, let's 891 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: have a discussion about jihadism versus white nationalism. Let's go. 892 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,959 Speaker 1: Let's let's break this down for a moment. The US 893 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: population is roughly sixty to sixty five percent white. Of 894 00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: that population, it's roughly, let's say, thirty percent mail, thirty 895 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: percent of America is white males. And you have all 896 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: of the terror attacks that they talk about, and you know, 897 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: you add all these numbers together and it's roughly equivalent 898 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 1: to the number of jeehottest terror murders in the United States, 899 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: assuming that you forget all about nine to eleven and 900 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: the incineration and murder of three thousand people all in 901 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,439 Speaker 1: one day. So just cut that part of it out 902 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: and assuming you forget about the hundreds and hundreds of 903 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 1: thwarted jeehottest terror attacks that have occurred or that would 904 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: have occurred since nine eleven, killing untold thousands more, including 905 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: blowing up a plane on Christmas Day over Detroit for 906 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 1: Rucal Delmatalad, the underwear bomber, blowing up Times Square when 907 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: I was working at the Intelligence Division, you know, look 908 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 1: at all these major attacks where they just barely avoided 909 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: a mass casualty situation or the and that's not even 910 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 1: including the guys that get picked up while they're trying 911 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: to buy the mosives are by the weapons. But even 912 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: going beyond all of that for a moment, there's about 913 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: one percent of America is Muslim American about one percent, 914 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: So you're looking at maybe we'll even say it's two percent. 915 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: Let's say it's five, five, four or five million people. 916 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's say half of them are about half of them 917 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: are male. So you're looking at about two or three 918 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: million Muslim Americans versus who are males. Right, and I 919 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: know not all terrorists are mail, but let's just for 920 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: the purpose of our discussion, versus about thirty to forty 921 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: million white American males. And you have roughly equivalent numbers 922 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: of casualties and dead from extremism minus nine to eleven, 923 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 1: which I think is a massive concession that we should 924 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: not make because it takes out of the discussion all 925 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: the resources in effort of thing us what ilhan by 926 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: ilhan omar logic, Muslim American males are a fifteen x 927 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: roughly terror threat to White American males based on the numbers. 928 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: So is this the game that she wants to play? 929 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: Does she really want to you know, where does this 930 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: stop and start? If she wants to open this up? 931 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: Do we get to walk through this store? Do we 932 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: get to actually have this discussion or not? Here you 933 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: have a member of Congress who says things like white 934 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: men are scary and we should pay more attention to 935 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: the threat from white men. I think we're allowed to 936 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: make a counter argument here that one that's a stupid 937 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: and nasty way to speak about anybody. And two, if 938 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: we're really going to break this down demographically, okay, let's 939 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: do that. Then let's look at the white American male 940 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: population and the Muslim American male population and tell me 941 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: which one has been a greater threat of extremism and 942 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: terrorist violence by the numbers. I mean, you know, I 943 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: don't know how many times I have to off the 944 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: top turnbuckle crush the libs on this one. I've done it. 945 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: I used to do it all the time at CNN. 946 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 1: They all always get smoked on this because they're so 947 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 1: desperate to believe, for whatever reason, that white Christian males 948 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 1: in America are the real threat, whatever that means to them. 949 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: They but they are invested in this Vox and HuffPo 950 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: and all these different liberal websites. They really want to 951 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: believe that the real threat or white Christian males. I 952 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: believe the real threat are people who are radicalized. I 953 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: believe that the real threat within the Muslim community are 954 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: radical Islamists geehotists, so a subset. I don't think that 955 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: one person from any community, based on being in that community, 956 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: should be concerned a greater threat. We're looking for specific radicalization, 957 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: but if we're looking for radicalization by the numbers, it 958 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: is still much more likely to exist within the American 959 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: Islamic community than the white male community. So let's just 960 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: be honest about that, all right, everybody, I got a 961 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: special treat for you today. It's been a while since 962 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: we have heard from our friend Kevin william Sin. But 963 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 1: fortunately he has a brand new book out, so we 964 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: have an excuse to force him to come hang out 965 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: with us. The book is the smallest minority independent thinking 966 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: in the age of mob politics. Kevin, of course, is 967 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: roving correspondent from National Review. Mister Kevin Williams, and good 968 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: to have you back, sir. Good to be here, Bucky. Now, 969 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to do at the book to selling him, 970 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: because I guess I'll hang out with you from that. 971 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So tell me what the book's all about. 972 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: The book is about the way Ian Ranch social media 973 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: has contributed to the destruction of our democrats political discourse. 974 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm making everyone a representative of Lauren Shrow rather than 975 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: an individual and citizen. Okay, give me a little bit. 976 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's a thing. Um. I mean, look, 977 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: but it says, so, you know, I want to have 978 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: you heard the I've been talking about all week. People 979 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 1: probably say of this, but the noval ravocant Joe Rogan discussion, 980 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: because I think that he you know, they Joe had 981 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: him on his podcast recently, and I've listened to this thing. 982 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Joe Robin a lot, he's funny. Yeah, well, well, I'll 983 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 1: just the basic thesis that Neval has is that in 984 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the digital information agent which we now live, these massive 985 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: journalistic establishments they don't really serve the purpose that they 986 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 1: pretend to, and so they have actually become massive activism organizations, 987 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: and so that has been magnified through social media into 988 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: the warring factions that you're talking about. Yeah, I think 989 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: maybe there's a slightly different way I would talk about that, 990 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 1: which is that people go to news media and social 991 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: media for different things and they get them confused. So 992 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 1: no one goes to Twitter really to learn about what's 993 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: going on in the world. No one goes to Twitter 994 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: for reporting or original perspectives or anything like that. People 995 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: go to Twitter and to a lesser extent, Facebook for 996 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: emotional validation. They want people to pay attention to them, 997 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: to make them feel important and to say we're in 998 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the white hats and these other guys are in the 999 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: black hats, and we're the good guys, and they're the villains, 1000 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and we're nice and they're munch of Nazis. So the problem, 1001 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: of course, is that kind of emotional, emotionally driven ad 1002 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: hominem view of the world is not very useful for 1003 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: discussion to beginning information, but it's very useful for building 1004 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: very large audiences. So if you're someone who wants to 1005 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: get as many people to pay attention to you as possible, 1006 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: and you're not too picky about how it gets done, 1007 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: it's a very strong temptation to go out there and 1008 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: engage in this kind of emotion. Heart first, facts be damned, 1009 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: ad hominem. I mean the discourse, which is really why 1010 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: you see only that on social media. And I think 1011 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: that you're right that some of the major media organizations 1012 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: in New York Times, some of the other newspapers have 1013 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: grown I think a little envious of that and adopted 1014 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: some of that tone, which is why you have such 1015 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: a bad op ed page, for instance, the New York Times, 1016 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 1: and such a bad auth ed page, and a lot 1017 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: of other newspapers where they really want to try to 1018 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: vampire off that same energy. I don't think it really 1019 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: works for him, because if you're Paul Krugman, you still 1020 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: got to write a seven hundred work column. You can't 1021 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: just tweet something, and it's a different kind of feel 1022 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: as a different kind of format. Well, and also you're 1023 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: somebody that that dealt with the the insanity of this 1024 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 1: yourself and in a very particular way at somebody who 1025 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 1: was hired by the Atlantic, and then do we let 1026 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: let go or consciously uncoupled or however it went from 1027 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: the Atlantic because really they're they're they're little emotionally fragile 1028 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: readership freaked out. I think that's an honest assessment of 1029 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: what happened. You know, there's an interesting thing about that, 1030 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: And partly it was that, But these things are always 1031 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: a little more complicated than that. And it wasn't really 1032 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: so much the social media campaign that got me fired 1033 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: over there, that was kind of a pretext. It was 1034 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: really an internal staff thing. And here's I'll have a 1035 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: little piece an excerpt from the book in the New 1036 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: York Post this weekend that it gets into some of 1037 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: this the purpose of these mob campaigns. It's not just 1038 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: to get people like me fired. It's to bend these 1039 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: institutions to the will of these left coming idea looks. 1040 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 1: And so you know, there's nothing you accomplished by it 1041 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 1: to be fired from the Atlantic. Right. So I'm a 1042 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: professional writer. I get started by the Atlantic. I wrote 1043 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 1: an essay about in the Wall Street journalist goes on, 1044 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, I just change venues. But if you are 1045 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: someone who's a Starbucks manager in Philadelphia, or a programmer 1046 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: at Google, or someone else who's not involved in the 1047 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: politics and writing and controversy business, you see these people 1048 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: being made examples of around you, and you'll learn from 1049 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: those examples and you never say anything that's non conforming 1050 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: or non approved to start with. And that's what this 1051 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: is really all about. You know, getting James to More 1052 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: fired at Google wasn't about this, you know, pinhead monkey 1053 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: James to More that no one really cares about all 1054 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: that much. It's about the mobs thing. Look, we can 1055 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: make Google do what we want, and that's the important 1056 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: takeaway from it. What would you like to see change 1057 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 1: in this whole phenomena? I mean, I actually saw last 1058 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 1: night Josh Holly, who is very involved now in the 1059 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: social media bias that exists. What are conservatives supposed to 1060 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 1: do now? I mean, because it's clearly biased and as 1061 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: you point out, there's yeah, well there there are a 1062 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 1: couple of things, and not as conservatives, but as citizens. 1063 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: One is to understand what you're going to social media 1064 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: for and what it's there to do, and I think 1065 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: that if you understand what it actually is, you probably 1066 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 1: might want to tend to use it less because it's 1067 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of embarrassing thing to be involved in some ways. 1068 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, some writers instead use it from marketing, and 1069 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: some other people use it from marketing, and that's great, 1070 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: but really it's not a very effective way to communicate 1071 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: if you have any sort of substantive ideas. So I 1072 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: think that while you want to be involved in all 1073 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: forms and all media to the extent that you can, 1074 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: conservatives should moderate our hopes for what can be accomplished 1075 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: through things like social media simply because their ideas are 1076 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: a little more complex. And you know, we need people 1077 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: who understand things like supply and demand and why prices 1078 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: work the way they work in the constitution, which you're 1079 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 1: not going to get from tweets, not how it's going 1080 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: to happen. So you play in that field if you 1081 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: need to play in that sandbox, if you think it's 1082 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: useful to you culturally or from a publicity point of view. 1083 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have real high hopes for or moving 1084 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 1: any sort of substantive intellectual content through it. We're speaking 1085 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 1: of Kevin Williamson Roving correspondent from National Review, author of 1086 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 1: the new book The Smallest Minority, Independent Thinking in the 1087 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 1: Age of Mob Politics. I mean, I will say this, Kevin. 1088 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 1: I've noticed that social media is a very it's the 1089 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 1: immediate feedback mechanisms of it in political discourse can be 1090 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: interesting insofar as you see that pushing for one team 1091 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: is the single most effective thing, or trashing the other 1092 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: team that's the single most effective thing you can do 1093 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: trying to have any any interesting exchange of ideas or 1094 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: god forbid, say that something about the other side's approach 1095 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: to an issue or idea might be worth examining, perhaps 1096 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 1: even appropriating. That gets not just ignored but shouted down. 1097 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 1: People get angry about this. That nuance effectively is suspect. Yeah. Remember, 1098 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: it's always far worse to be aherretic in an anf 1099 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: adelt right. It's always the people on your own side, 1100 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: if you disagree with them a little bit, who will 1101 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: always be the most energetic in coming after you. For instance, 1102 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I've i write this article probably every six months that 1103 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Republicans need to get over the idea that tax cuts 1104 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: pay for themselves. I really just don't know. There's not 1105 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: any good evidence that they do, and every time I 1106 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: write that, there's just this new one normal freak out. 1107 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 1: And it's not so much about the contents, it's about 1108 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: aren't you supposed to be on our side? Oh? Why 1109 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 1: won't you go along with the game? Or wrote this 1110 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 1: thing earlier in the week or last week about the 1111 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: sender her own stuff and eleanor Mer. Not that I'm 1112 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: a fan of Eleanor Lmer, but it's sort of a 1113 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's an ugly thing to do, and there's 1114 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 1: some legitimate criticism there, I think to make. And the 1115 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 1: woundedness of the responses to that is we're supposed to 1116 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 1: hate her. Why can't you hate her with us? We 1117 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: hate I just hate her better than you do, for 1118 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: better reasons, Yeah, I have to say. I mean, this 1119 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 1: is why it's it's so hard right now to find 1120 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: even legitimate debate on television. One of my complaints is 1121 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: that anywhere you go that's supposed to be a political 1122 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 1: exchange of ideas in a media forum is overwhelmingly the 1123 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: old WWF model of here's Hulk Hogan and here's the 1124 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: jobber who's wearing a little Neon mankini and no one's 1125 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,679 Speaker 1: ever heard of before the guy looks like he could 1126 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: bench press about seventy five pounds, and he's going to 1127 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 1: get crushed. That's what if you see on TV, just 1128 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: in different versions of different venues. Yeah, you know, Margaret 1129 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Hoover has recently turned to rest a firing Line, which 1130 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: is the title that's very important to us over here 1131 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 1: at National Review. But you can't imagine trying to put 1132 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 1: the original firing Line, which is two hours long of 1133 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 1: two guys having a serious conversation on the area's even 1134 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: on PBS, you know, even on NPR or something like that. 1135 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 1: So the culture I think has changed in a way 1136 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 1: that makes it very difficult to have those sorts of conversations. 1137 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,719 Speaker 1: But the other thing is that people involved in my business, 1138 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 1: people who are writers, people who want to talk about 1139 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 1: more serious issues, are really guilty of the original sin 1140 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,440 Speaker 1: of American intellectuals, which is too want to be popular 1141 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: in that way. You know, if you are Paul Krugman, 1142 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: having a Nobel prize is not enough. You want to 1143 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: be celebrated and to lead people and to speak for 1144 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: them and to act as attribute for them the way 1145 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 1: a politician does. And there are a lot of people, 1146 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a particular problem for conservative talk 1147 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 1: show hosts who are essentially campaign managers for Republican campaigns 1148 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,640 Speaker 1: and who are so closely and so tightly identified with 1149 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: the politics that they can't afford to engage in an 1150 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 1: honest conversation. And that's a real problem. Is there any 1151 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: ray of hope you offer us in the smallest minority, Kevin, 1152 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: or is the minority just going to get smaller? One 1153 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 1: is the people eventually learn to hold in contempt that 1154 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: which is contemptible, and this is contemptible, and people eventually learned. 1155 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: But the other thing is that a lot of what's 1156 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 1: driving this hysteria right now on social media is boredom, 1157 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: and it's being used as entertainment, and it's entertainment value 1158 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,640 Speaker 1: is not going to last forever. We will move on 1159 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: to the next thing. You know, there used to be 1160 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,759 Speaker 1: a time in the history when people got hysterical about 1161 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 1: sports rivalries. Here times in the history where people had 1162 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: you know, there was a riot apparently after the writer 1163 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Spring was first performed because people cared about series of 1164 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 1: the count of us Stravinsky reference. Look at you, yeah, 1165 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,719 Speaker 1: Ostravinsky refinence right there. You know, we're pretty high minded 1166 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 1: over here, and I think that eventually people's interests move 1167 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 1: on from this and they go onto something else, and 1168 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: we're having these silly conversations about I don't know, Batman 1169 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 1: movies or something. Well, Kevin Williamson is one of the 1170 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 1: best writers on the scene, folks. So I say, you 1171 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: give the smallest minority independent thinking in the age of 1172 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 1: mob politics a shot. I'm gonna do the same, Kevin. 1173 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Appreciate you making the time and 1174 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: good luck on the book. Thank you, Buck. I appreciate 1175 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 1: it all. Right, team, we got more coming up in 1176 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: a big hour three in facts making social media and 1177 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,600 Speaker 1: the bias they're in. We've got some new project Veritas 1178 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Audio to share with you. Stick around for that. Senior 1179 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Selfare Engineerfrengineer. My name is Greg Coopola. I'm a senior 1180 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Selfare Engineer. I work on artific intelligence and the Google Assistant. Yeah, 1181 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean overall, I'm very concerned to see big tech 1182 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 1: and the big media merge basically with a political party, 1183 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: with the Democrat Party. And I have a PhD. I 1184 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: have five years of experience at Google, and I just 1185 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: know how algorithms are. They don't write themselves, We write 1186 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: them to do we want them to do. I look 1187 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 1: at Search, and I look at Google News, and I 1188 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 1: see what it's doing, and I see Google executives go 1189 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: to Congress and say that it's not manipulated, it's not political, 1190 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just so sure that's not true. I think 1191 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 1: as the election started to ramp up, of the angle 1192 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,799 Speaker 1: that the Democrats and the media took was that anyone 1193 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 1: who liked Donald Trump was a racist, even in Nazi 1194 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 1: and I got picked up everywhere. Well, I think we're 1195 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 1: just at a really important point in human history. I 1196 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 1: think for a while we had tech that was politically neutral. 1197 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: Now we have tech that really, first of all, is 1198 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 1: taking sides in a political contest. So that's a Google 1199 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: engineer hat tip to a project very tass for giving 1200 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,879 Speaker 1: for having the audio up here and getting this interview 1201 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:22,799 Speaker 1: done with this a senior Google engineer who is saying 1202 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 1: much of what I've been telling you here on the show. 1203 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 1: And I hear from people that I know in Silicon Valley, 1204 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,679 Speaker 1: people that I know who work in the tech space. 1205 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: And one part of this that I do believe is 1206 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,680 Speaker 1: important to keep to keep in the mix is that 1207 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: one reason why Republicans and people voted for Trump. Can't 1208 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:49,200 Speaker 1: get that energized over the very, very ineffectual and minimal 1209 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, Russian interference in the election. 1210 01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 1: When our main communication systems now the primary methods of 1211 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 1: day to day communication for most of us in the 1212 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 1: political sphere, the digital world, this is where most news 1213 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 1: is happening, most communication is going on, are effectively subsidiaries 1214 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,719 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, but pretend to be neutral. It'd 1215 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 1: be one thing if Google said Google is all about 1216 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 1: pushing left wing ideas in a left wing agenda. At 1217 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 1: least then I could I could say, all right, there's 1218 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 1: an honesty to that, and you can either use their 1219 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 1: products or not. You can either accept what they say 1220 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: or not. But what Google and these other companies have 1221 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: been saying four years, Google, Facebook, Twitter, And I actually 1222 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 1: think that Jack Dorsey's not quite as I don't think 1223 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: that he's as much of the problem. It's just the 1224 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 1: rest of the company. These entire corporate cultures are full 1225 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 1: of these left wing evangelist types, these these left wing zealots. 1226 01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 1: But they've been telling us for years. Their publicition has 1227 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 1: been that they do not have political bias, they do 1228 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,680 Speaker 1: not take political positions on any of this, and that 1229 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 1: they are just really trying to regulate safety and give 1230 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: the best products. Think that's a lie. They're lying to us. 1231 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 1: They've been lying to us systematically for years. Think about 1232 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 1: what an effect that has. I mean, I've heard I 1233 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 1: can't remember where it was, but that there was about 1234 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 1: a at least as early as or as recently as 1235 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:36,640 Speaker 1: the two thousands, the Democrats media advantage was guessed to 1236 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:42,639 Speaker 1: be about a ten point polling advantage for them overall, 1237 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 1: meaning that if we if we had a truly nonpartisan 1238 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 1: journalist cadre in America, if it really was the case 1239 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 1: that journalist we're not on pushing for one side, a 1240 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of Democrats would lose so badly that they would 1241 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 1: know longer even be competitive in races that are considered 1242 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,759 Speaker 1: now to be either close or slightly leaning toward the Democrats. 1243 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's worth like five or ten percentage points 1244 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:14,640 Speaker 1: in major, certainly national level political races, because what do 1245 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,759 Speaker 1: you do, how do you know about any of these people? 1246 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: And think about this when when you want to know about, oh, 1247 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,719 Speaker 1: who's this politician? Maybe you watch it on TV? Okay, 1248 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,080 Speaker 1: but how much of that do you really see on 1249 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 1: any given day, how much does any one politician come up? 1250 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: But when you do a Google search on somebody, you know, 1251 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 1: if you do a Google search on Donald Trump or 1252 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: on Josh Holly, whom I actually met for the first 1253 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,679 Speaker 1: time last night over at Fox. If you look for 1254 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,480 Speaker 1: one of these individuals, the information that pops up initially 1255 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,679 Speaker 1: on them is what you're overwhelmingly going to read. And 1256 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: whoever determines what that what that first spate of articles 1257 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: may be that person, has tremendous influence on your perceptions 1258 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 1: of that individual. This is this is a really big deal. 1259 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: And I do think that there's some somewhat of a 1260 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: disconnect because the left is more tech leaning than the 1261 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: right generally. I just this is why Silicon Valley is 1262 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: a very far left place. Why. It's an interesting discussion 1263 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: in and of itself, But I think it's because one 1264 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 1: you are, well, it's it's a little bit like universities, 1265 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: and there's a self selection that goes on. All you 1266 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:33,839 Speaker 1: need is, you know, some proportion of a web company, 1267 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,720 Speaker 1: an internet company, to have some libs, and then they're 1268 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: going to just bring in more libs and then push 1269 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 1: out the rest of the nonlibs and all of a 1270 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,759 Speaker 1: sudden you have a political monoculture, as James Daymore called 1271 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 1: it at Google. But this this is a huge issue, 1272 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and I think that those who believe because I was 1273 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: asked about this on on Brett bear Show on Fox 1274 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 1: last night, or Brett brought up these investigations to the 1275 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: different the different social media giants whether or not their monopolies, 1276 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: whether they need to be broken up or not. I 1277 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 1: think the answer is quite obviously yes, they do need 1278 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,519 Speaker 1: to be looked at, and I think they probably should 1279 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,680 Speaker 1: be broken up. I think that it is a it 1280 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,599 Speaker 1: is a monopoly situation with Google. These companies in many 1281 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 1: ways are more powerful than any other company that came before. 1282 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 1: They be said, oh Buck, Standard Oil and everything. I mean, 1283 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 1: does Standard Oil still have a monopoly? Folks? Does anyone 1284 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: think that Standard oil is still going to be it 1285 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,639 Speaker 1: was still going to be the powerhouse in the fossil 1286 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 1: of course, in global competition everything else. Google has the 1287 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 1: ability right now to completely squelch any other company. To 1288 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 1: determine what companies can get ad revenue for their business 1289 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,800 Speaker 1: can affect in shape perceptions in ways that look it's 1290 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 1: it's a replacement for what the traditional media ecosystem in 1291 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 1: this country was which would take us back to the 1292 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,479 Speaker 1: Walter Cronkite days. Oh, Walter Cronkite's you know what was 1293 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 1: he the all the you know what's the and that's 1294 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 1: the way it is, right as the Cronkite. I don't know, 1295 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 1: I was too I'm too young for that stuff. But 1296 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 1: they used to be able to convince people, the mainstream 1297 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 1: media convinced people that they were just telling the facts, 1298 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 1: they had no bias. That was a lie. Always the 1299 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 1: media has always leaned left. We know the media leans left. 1300 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: It was never true. It was never obviously the case, 1301 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 1: or it was rather obviously the case. The media had 1302 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 1: a political agenda, but they've always pretended that that's not 1303 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: the case. So I mean, here we are now, this 1304 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,360 Speaker 1: this is the new mainstream media, folks, And I do 1305 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 1: think that they need to be they need to be 1306 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 1: looked at. And you know, why is it that if 1307 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 1: someone explained to me why Sinclair Media, for example, can 1308 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: engage in a voluntary transaction of a merger with Tribune 1309 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: Media without the FCC and all the stuff getting involved. 1310 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Oh but but Google can do whatever the heck it wants. 1311 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 1: You know, face what can do whatever it wants, TV 1312 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 1: and radio have all these stupid rules in place that 1313 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: we know favor the incumbents, and the incumbents are almost 1314 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 1: all Libs. Oh but the Internet, now that it's lib dominated, 1315 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 1: no rules for them. No, sorry, I don't think so. 1316 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 1: You're a publisher, or you're a platform. Pick Google. One 1317 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,719 Speaker 1: of our major themes here on The Buck Saxton Show 1318 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,800 Speaker 1: is that there are a lot of crazy libs out there, 1319 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: or maybe a better way of putting it is that 1320 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 1: libs are kind of crazy, that their ideology has jumped 1321 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,599 Speaker 1: the shark, that they they've lost they've lost touch with reality. 1322 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 1: They they've gone quite a bit nutso and with that, 1323 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,680 Speaker 1: I turn you to this obsession they have that is 1324 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 1: sure to be a political loser, is not based on 1325 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 1: the science, and it's just an American darn it, getting 1326 01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,439 Speaker 1: us to stop eating meat. This was a story recently 1327 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 1: on CNN the Communews Network to help save the planet, 1328 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: cut back to a hamburger and a half per week. 1329 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean a hamburger and a half. That is not 1330 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: nearly enough. First of all, I'm sure that they do 1331 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 1: that whole whimpy thing and Mark you know what I'm 1332 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 1: talking about where they say that your protein intake is 1333 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,679 Speaker 1: supposed to be about the size of a deck of cards. 1334 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,600 Speaker 1: That's no one eats a hamburger that's the size of 1335 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 1: a deck of cards. Maybe four decks of cards. If 1336 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 1: you're at Whitecastle, you can do that, but then you 1337 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 1: eat like ten of them. Well, yeah, exactly right. And 1338 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 1: so if I eat ten decks of cards worth of meat, 1339 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of the same thing. But the libs are 1340 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 1: obsessed with this, you know. Ultimately, I think they really 1341 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 1: just do want to control people. That they want to 1342 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,880 Speaker 1: be in a position to tell you what to do 1343 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 1: because they know better than you. That's really the purpose 1344 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: of this. But here's the story in scene, and Americas 1345 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 1: will need to cut their average consumption of beef by 1346 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:03,799 Speaker 1: about forty percent and Europeans by twenty two percent because 1347 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 1: we are European and we don't eat as much of 1348 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 1: as a red meat because we have so much bread 1349 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 1: and breathe and vary us fromage. Really, neither're gonna stinky 1350 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 1: cheese us like that, by the way. I mean, I'm 1351 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,559 Speaker 1: sure stinky cheese is probably bad for your arteries. For 1352 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 1: the world to continue to feed the ten billion people 1353 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 1: expect to live on this planet, in twenty fifty, according 1354 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:29,640 Speaker 1: to a new report from the World Resources Institute. I 1355 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 1: bet there's a lot of tofu served at their Christmas party, 1356 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 1: which would obviously be called a holiday party, and they're 1357 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 1: saying that it's creating the We need to create a 1358 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 1: sustainable food future, and eating less beef is only one 1359 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 1: suggestion in the five hundred and sixty eight page report. 1360 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 1: Is what they say, nine point eight nine point eight 1361 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 1: billion people will live on the planet by twenty fifty. 1362 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,559 Speaker 1: That's up from seven billion in twenty ten. Demand for 1363 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 1: food it is projected to outpaced population growth, increasing by 1364 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,599 Speaker 1: more than fifty percent as people's incomes in the developing 1365 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: world are expected to increase. According to the report, the 1366 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,040 Speaker 1: demand for meat and dairy is expected to rise even 1367 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 1: faster by seventy percent. The global demand for ruminant meat, 1368 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:24,320 Speaker 1: meaning beef, sheep, and goat, is expected to be even 1369 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 1: higher at eighty eight percent. First of all, goat, when 1370 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 1: well prepared, can be pretty good. I've probably eaten more 1371 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,160 Speaker 1: goat than mutton. Even though people think of goat, I 1372 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 1: think is a little bit more of a rarity. And 1373 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 1: ruminant meat. I'd never heard that before. I kind of 1374 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 1: like that Okay, So here's where this is another example 1375 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 1: of the Libs being crazy. What's the soul what of 1376 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,720 Speaker 1: all this other than the fact that telling people not 1377 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 1: to eat meat is a political loser. But on climate change, 1378 01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 1: the Democrats would rather be political losers, meaning that they're 1379 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,680 Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice some degree of short term power in 1380 01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,799 Speaker 1: the hopes that they can propagandize this. They can frighten 1381 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 1: enough people, and once they've frightened all of those people 1382 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 1: to get to vote, so they'll vote for them and 1383 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 1: give them the power to come back climate change. Then 1384 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,519 Speaker 1: they can worry about all the rest of it. Then 1385 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 1: we can be in some place where they have total control. 1386 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,880 Speaker 1: But telling people not to eat meat as a political loser, 1387 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,920 Speaker 1: you know what else is a loser in general? Not 1388 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 1: knowing history. See, there was this fellow Mouthis who in 1389 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century was sure that we were going to 1390 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 1: run out of food and that there would be Now 1391 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be, and we wouldn't run out of food 1392 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 1: in the sense that there would be no food, but 1393 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 1: that our ability to produce enough food to sustain the 1394 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:59,880 Speaker 1: growing global population would be so threatened and so insuff 1395 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,799 Speaker 1: that there would eventually be mass starvation and die off, 1396 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,759 Speaker 1: or limitations depending on if there was disruptions to existing 1397 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 1: food supply or limitations on global population growth because we 1398 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 1: simply can't produce enough food to feed all of these people. Well, 1399 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 1: it turns out that that was complete and utter unscientific nonsense. 1400 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Why was it nonsense? Oh, that's right, because what we 1401 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: now know is that technology, involving a lot of fossil fuels, 1402 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,799 Speaker 1: by the way, has made it so much more efficient, 1403 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:40,599 Speaker 1: so much easier to produce food, and to refrigerate food, 1404 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: and to move it around, and to have higher crop 1405 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: yields and all of these wonderful things. Libs never learned 1406 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 1: their history, though, because now we're at a point where 1407 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 1: global population growth is exploding, life expectancy is longer than 1408 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 1: ever before, and we have to worry constantly about too 1409 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 1: much food. Too much food is a much greater global 1410 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 1: health risk than too little food, obesity, heart disease, type 1411 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,720 Speaker 1: two diabetes. What we really should be concerned about is 1412 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,599 Speaker 1: how we all convince our bodies, because look, there's been 1413 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,799 Speaker 1: a lot of engineering of this too. It is true 1414 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 1: that companies jamming food with all this sugar and which 1415 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 1: which does become addictive and it is addictive. This is 1416 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,599 Speaker 1: a form of slow poisoning of all of us. Right, 1417 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 1: we've there was a time when if you could get 1418 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of sugar, that would be a good thing. 1419 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,360 Speaker 1: But we're we're well beyond that time now because there's 1420 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,360 Speaker 1: sugar in everything. It's all over the place. It's in ketchup, 1421 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 1: it's in salad dressing, it's in cereals. It's everywhere, right, 1422 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: it's everywhere you turn. And we're going to have more 1423 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:54,559 Speaker 1: advanced technology than we've had in the next ten years, 1424 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 1: the next twenty years. They're already creating beef that is 1425 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 1: in beef, but they say a similar caloric density, nutrient density, 1426 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,680 Speaker 1: and is much more sustainable. I've eaten some of this, 1427 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,519 Speaker 1: by the way, Mark, I'll be honest, Beyond meats pretty good. 1428 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 1: I think I said that on the show. It's pretty good. 1429 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember you saying that. Oh yeah, it's actually 1430 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 1: oh okay, maybe I just tweeted about it. But I 1431 01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,639 Speaker 1: had a Beyond Meat burger. It is gluten free, and 1432 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: it was it was pretty tasty, you know. I mean, 1433 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 1: obviously you don't just go with it, oh natural raal right, 1434 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,479 Speaker 1: you don't just have a naked beyond meat burger. You 1435 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: gotta slap some mayo on there, a little bit of 1436 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,400 Speaker 1: Swiss cheese, maybe some bacon. That's right. I like to 1437 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 1: put bacon on top of my vegan technologically advanced not 1438 01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 1: meat burger. But this is just crazy, folks. They're wrong. 1439 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,599 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they're wrong. Does anyone really think that 1440 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,720 Speaker 1: the massive food companies and all the different places that 1441 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,960 Speaker 1: are incentivized around the world to come up with new 1442 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 1: ways to grow food, to create food. I mean, look, 1443 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 1: you're talking to a guy who just had crickets in 1444 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,679 Speaker 1: his guacamoli, and I'm sure that if you looked at 1445 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: at how easy and in some of you're like gross. 1446 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,840 Speaker 1: But no, it's true. Crickets are delicious, delicious. You just 1447 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,799 Speaker 1: throw a little bit of I'll do them sweet or savory. 1448 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:15,480 Speaker 1: Producer Mark, I'll have I'll have hazelnut crickets, barbecue crickets, 1449 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 1: creole crickets, you name it. Not crickets. Never happening, dude, 1450 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring some Producer Mark, We're gonna have to 1451 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,080 Speaker 1: have some crickets that we bring in for you on 1452 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna hear the crunch. Zero chance really. 1453 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,519 Speaker 1: Oh man, if you guys, I think if we have 1454 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 1: like a go fund me for crickets for Mark, maybe 1455 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 1: we'll actually get up to do this. But I'm telling 1456 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 1: you they're not that bad anyway. There's a lot of 1457 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 1: ways to create this protein. I think there's different insect larva. 1458 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:45,960 Speaker 1: Now you guys are all turning. Everybody was with me 1459 01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 1: until I started talking about crickets and insect larva. Now 1460 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 1: I sound like a total lunatic, which might might in 1461 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 1: fact be the case. But this is what I mean, 1462 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,960 Speaker 1: these groups and seeing and of course seeing it. Why 1463 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 1: does seeing in print this, let's just work through that 1464 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 1: for a second, or why do they post it on 1465 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 1: their website? Because this goes to the whole lib catastrophis 1466 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 1: global warming nonsense. They want to believe that we're all 1467 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,560 Speaker 1: going to starve to death or the planet's going to 1468 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 1: overheat unless government is able to intervene in everything, including 1469 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:20,799 Speaker 1: what you eat. Eat less meat because meat creates climate change. 1470 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,040 Speaker 1: Now it's eat less meat because they won't be able 1471 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 1: to create enough meat. Well, which is it? Do we 1472 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 1: not have enough meat? Or if we eat too much meat? 1473 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: Is the world going to going to collapse? They see 1474 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 1: it's all. It sounds stupid as I'm saying it, because 1475 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 1: it is stupid. It makes no sense. But if you're 1476 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,760 Speaker 1: looking for sense with libs these days, you're going to 1477 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:43,200 Speaker 1: be on shaky ground. Indeed, you're going to be in 1478 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,000 Speaker 1: a difficult position. So I'm going to keep eating meat, 1479 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 1: that's for sure. I'm never listening to this is as well. 1480 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,839 Speaker 1: Moral of the story. Keep eating meat. I'll be back teams. 1481 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes there is justice in this world, and sometimes things 1482 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,600 Speaker 1: just get a little weird. What the heck are you 1483 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,559 Speaker 1: talking about? Buck? You might be thinking that, hopefully not 1484 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,200 Speaker 1: so much that you're like, all right, this is where 1485 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,840 Speaker 1: the podcast ends. But no, really. So I was on 1486 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:14,799 Speaker 1: the train today. Unlike all swamp dwelling Northeastern Ascella Corridor creatures, 1487 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,479 Speaker 1: I was on that train. I was trying to do 1488 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,679 Speaker 1: some work, but I stepped on the train. I'm somebody 1489 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 1: who I'll give you some tips for the amtrack if 1490 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 1: you want to do work and you're on the cheap train, 1491 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 1: not the Ascella. I don't take the Assella because I'm 1492 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,240 Speaker 1: not fancy. I'm not boogie enough for the Assella, at 1493 01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,800 Speaker 1: least not on my own dime. So I step on 1494 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 1: the train and I'm saying to myself, all right, I'm 1495 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,759 Speaker 1: gonna go to the cafe car because the cafe cars 1496 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 1: have old school four person tables. So I go to 1497 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 1: get to one of those tables and I see there's 1498 01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: a woman who is sitting with a bunch of bags 1499 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 1: next to her on one side, and I just go, okay, well, 1500 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit on the other. It's a very full train, 1501 01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,599 Speaker 1: and I go to sit down and she goes, I'm sorry, 1502 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. And I look at her and I'm like, 1503 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,760 Speaker 1: aren't you sitting where you're sitting because this is the 1504 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,519 Speaker 1: other this is the other row, which has room for 1505 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,760 Speaker 1: at least two people that's across from this table. And 1506 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 1: she goes, oh no, I mean my boyfriend is sitting there. 1507 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,400 Speaker 1: And I go, okay, all right, you know that's I 1508 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 1: get it. Like if I were traveling with a significant other, 1509 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,479 Speaker 1: I would want to have them sitting next to me, 1510 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 1: and I respect that. So I went and I found, 1511 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, a nearby table, same situation, sitting across from 1512 01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,000 Speaker 1: from somebody. And let me return to that story in 1513 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,519 Speaker 1: a moment. But sure enough, we get thirty minutes into 1514 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 1: this train ride. Thirty minutes into it, there's no boyfriend, Mark, 1515 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,719 Speaker 1: there's no boyfriend, there's there's nobody. There's no one sitting 1516 01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 1: across shocked and in fact, she puts like a like 1517 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,559 Speaker 1: kind of a bag, you know, over there and everything. 1518 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:50,479 Speaker 1: But at the Baltimore stop, we have a new arrival, 1519 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,760 Speaker 1: somebody who comes on that train, and I hear this exchange. 1520 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,080 Speaker 1: She walks over and she says to the seat denier. 1521 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 1: We'll call her the seat denier because she did nyed 1522 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,680 Speaker 1: me the open seat. And for those you're saying, oh, buck, no, 1523 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 1: she was. This was not like I was going to 1524 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,559 Speaker 1: hit on her, and she no, please, this is not 1525 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,000 Speaker 1: like that. I just wanted the empty seat. The seat 1526 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 1: denier says, I guess no one's sitting there when she's 1527 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,599 Speaker 1: asked if someone can sit there, So she just straight 1528 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,559 Speaker 1: up lied to me. But then I looked with glee, 1529 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:25,200 Speaker 1: with glee as the new arrival on that Northeast Regional 1530 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Amtrak train proceeded to pull out just big smelly tupperware 1531 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,559 Speaker 1: thing after smelly tupperware thing, and then put her phone 1532 01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,120 Speaker 1: up to her ear and was a super loud cell 1533 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,240 Speaker 1: phone talker. And I just looked back and I was like, justice, 1534 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,080 Speaker 1: That's what happens when you lie to well intentioned people. 1535 01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 1: You get the smelly food, loud talker sitting next to you. 1536 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 1: Oh what was Buck like on the train? The way 1537 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:56,600 Speaker 1: he always is, earbuds in laptop, out working to save America. 1538 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,200 Speaker 1: So Mark, see there is justice in this world. Those 1539 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,320 Speaker 1: two people deserve of each other. I think they really 1540 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: do deserve each other. And then the other part of 1541 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,559 Speaker 1: the story was that I'd believe it or not. This 1542 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,760 Speaker 1: was a one two punch. I sit down at the 1543 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,320 Speaker 1: other table, links to the guy, and this was a 1544 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 1: really quick one. But this guy looks at me as 1545 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: I sit down across from him, and he goes, he goes, 1546 01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,559 Speaker 1: You're not a beautiful woman. I was hoping a beautiful 1547 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,080 Speaker 1: woman would sit across from me. And I looked at 1548 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,120 Speaker 1: him and I said, yeah, sorry, I guess I'm a 1549 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 1: little disappointing, and he goes, yes, disappointing. Indeed, I'm like, 1550 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,760 Speaker 1: what is this. It's like the high school cafeteria and 1551 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to sit anywhere anyway. Oh the crazy 1552 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,880 Speaker 1: life and times of an Amtrak traveler. And I was 1553 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,960 Speaker 1: near the cafe car too. Why can't the food on 1554 01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Amtrak not be disgusting? That's a conversation for another day. 1555 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:55,720 Speaker 1: Rock and roll, fellow patriots, we made ours go up 1556 01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:12,519 Speaker 1: to eleven. It's time for roll call. Alrighty Facebook dot 1557 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 1: com slash Bucks Sexton for the roll call. Thank you 1558 01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,559 Speaker 1: so much for hanging out with me here this week. 1559 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,759 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's Friday, because well, 1560 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel like it's Friday. It 1561 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 1: turns out it's not. It's only Wednesday. All right, let's 1562 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:34,799 Speaker 1: get chew it, shall we. That's my way of stalling 1563 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,680 Speaker 1: while I actually pull up. I've got going on here. 1564 01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,320 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Kyle rights Buck. I thought 1565 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,760 Speaker 1: it was cute how all the Democrats coordinator to say 1566 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,880 Speaker 1: the line no one is above the law at the 1567 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,000 Speaker 1: end of their questioning of Muller. I wish someone would 1568 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:53,479 Speaker 1: have yelled except for bleach bit each time they said it. 1569 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I wasted my time watching that. I bet 1570 01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,479 Speaker 1: they're exactly zero people nationwide who change their mind one 1571 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:00,720 Speaker 1: or the other, which at the end of the day 1572 01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,920 Speaker 1: probably works out in Trump's favor. Attention Democrats, this horse 1573 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:10,240 Speaker 1: has been beaten enough. Huh yeah, I think that that's 1574 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 1: probably true, although, as I've been saying it is, it 1575 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 1: was not a good day for the Mullers beyond reproach. 1576 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 1: And he's like a superhero patriot of unbelievable proportions. Nah, 1577 01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 1: really not so much, all right, Diane, Hey, buck about 1578 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 1: the gray in your beard, you're too young for that. 1579 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 1: I believe there's a product especially for beards by Grecian formula. 1580 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,840 Speaker 1: Give that a try. Once you hit fifty, you can 1581 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,160 Speaker 1: go natural. I think your beard is very nice, especially 1582 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 1: since you keep it trimmed. I don't know, Mark, am 1583 01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,960 Speaker 1: i too. I'm almost forty. I think I'm allowed to 1584 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,080 Speaker 1: have a couple of gray hairs almost at forty, right, 1585 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,000 Speaker 1: is that? I mean? It depends on genetics. Yeah, it's exactly, 1586 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:56,400 Speaker 1: thank you. Hey, depends on genetics. Is your dad graying? 1587 01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,439 Speaker 1: My dad has like a silver mane of fantastic to care. 1588 01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,400 Speaker 1: So it looks like that's what you'll get. Yeah, exactly. Well, 1589 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,760 Speaker 1: I think it goes by your grandfather. He had great 1590 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,599 Speaker 1: hair too, all right, so you know where you're getting. 1591 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 1: That's a good call, all right, he thanks Diane. Doug 1592 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:16,280 Speaker 1: Mueller is using an interrogation tactic taught to active duties 1593 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,880 Speaker 1: during survival school. It's a way of delaying, stall and 1594 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,160 Speaker 1: confusing and distracting an interrogator. Watch how he does it 1595 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,559 Speaker 1: to Republicans more often than not, repeating a question, stumbling 1596 01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,800 Speaker 1: over words, very clearly distracting. Also, he does what is 1597 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:33,519 Speaker 1: known as getting back to a safe place. Every question 1598 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 1: in his mind should get him back to his report, 1599 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 1: which is safety for him. It's quite a display back 1600 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:47,760 Speaker 1: to a safe place. Interesting, Doug, thanks for sharing some 1601 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:53,840 Speaker 1: of the interrogation tactics knowledge. I do appreciate it. Alrighty Rich, 1602 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,760 Speaker 1: I can't really see what he's writing here. J K Bok. 1603 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm listening to yesterday's podcast asked for and you're joining 1604 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:07,640 Speaker 1: me for a twelve mile ruck run this morning. Oh wow, 1605 01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:12,519 Speaker 1: twelve mile ruck march this morning. That's that's still very far. 1606 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,200 Speaker 1: I just recently read nineteen eighty four. I had the 1607 01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,720 Speaker 1: realization when you were talking about transgenderism that this is 1608 01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,640 Speaker 1: actual two plus two equals five scenario. It was a 1609 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,840 Speaker 1: little scary to figure this out. Well, that's that's very 1610 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:28,040 Speaker 1: much correct. That is the case, and true power in 1611 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,880 Speaker 1: the hands of the state. Ultimate power in the hands 1612 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 1: of the state is when they can force you to 1613 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 1: deny objective reality, because once they can do that, then 1614 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,720 Speaker 1: they can make you do anything, and you don't have 1615 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,840 Speaker 1: the intellectual means to fight back, Right, you don't have 1616 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,560 Speaker 1: the ability. If they can make you believe things that 1617 01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,400 Speaker 1: aren't true, or in fact, they can force you to 1618 01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,519 Speaker 1: say things you know are not true, how are you 1619 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:54,600 Speaker 1: ever going to hold them accountable. You sacrifice whatever credibility, 1620 01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,519 Speaker 1: whatever honesty you have in this process. Right, That's why 1621 01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 1: they want you to bend the knee is also at 1622 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,320 Speaker 1: the end of nineteen eighty four the most terrifying part 1623 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 1: of that entire novel, which, as I've said, is one 1624 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:10,080 Speaker 1: of the certainly one of the ten greatest novels written 1625 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 1: in the twentieth century. I think that's without question some 1626 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:16,120 Speaker 1: people would probably put in the top five. But the 1627 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 1: part at the end where there's the denunciation of the 1628 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 1: female that the main character isn't that the protagonist is 1629 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 1: in love with. That's when he's truly broken, when he's saying, 1630 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, she's the one who did the bad thing. 1631 01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 1: Sorry if I spoil it for you, but you should 1632 01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,360 Speaker 1: have already read nineteen eighty four, and if you haven't, 1633 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,720 Speaker 1: go back and read Animal farm again. You might have 1634 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,479 Speaker 1: been assigned it in school, but animal farm that you 1635 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,400 Speaker 1: read as an adult is a different experience, and animal 1636 01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,160 Speaker 1: farm that you will read I'm sorry as a kid 1637 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,160 Speaker 1: is a different experience than you'll read it as an adult. 1638 01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:57,280 Speaker 1: So we go. James from w G y up in 1639 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 1: New York, love you, Buck, keep up the good word. 1640 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, James, and a shout out to everybody in 1641 01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,759 Speaker 1: w G y Land. Here I am a fellow native 1642 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:10,320 Speaker 1: New Yorker addressing you across this great state. New York 1643 01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,639 Speaker 1: is a fantastic state, and really it's got so much here, 1644 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,479 Speaker 1: you know, really, it's almost like we we got Long 1645 01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Island to add it into the bargain, which is should 1646 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,559 Speaker 1: be its own state as well. But New York is 1647 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,519 Speaker 1: a is a great state. And people always said that 1648 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,519 Speaker 1: about all states, but it's not it's not always true. 1649 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to start trashing some states out there, 1650 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,280 Speaker 1: but there's some states that are a little you know, 1651 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:36,240 Speaker 1: a little May, a little May Brian. Here we go, Hey, Buck, 1652 01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,720 Speaker 1: you're right about Corey Booker. He's a joker. Reminds me 1653 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:44,519 Speaker 1: of an eleventh grade over zealous kid constantly acting in 1654 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,960 Speaker 1: drama class. He has no concept of the real world. 1655 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,640 Speaker 1: Not there's anything wrong with that. Took a stab at 1656 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,679 Speaker 1: sharing your podcast on Instagram and Facebook to my mostly 1657 01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 1: liberal Massachusetts friend base. Guess what I got like one 1658 01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,880 Speaker 1: like due to tech shadow blocking. As I believe most 1659 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,280 Speaker 1: of my good friends and family would like my post 1660 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,639 Speaker 1: if they actually saw the subject of tonight's podcast. You're 1661 01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,559 Speaker 1: right on Chinese influence in Ecuador was down there not 1662 01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:16,599 Speaker 1: long ago, training their Coastguard on systems in Guayaquil, which 1663 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,519 Speaker 1: is in Ecuador, which is where I was. China has 1664 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,640 Speaker 1: built all the commercial residential infrastructure down there, as the 1665 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,919 Speaker 1: cars are all Chinese, and they just built a massive 1666 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:30,400 Speaker 1: deep water port for shipping. Ironically, the Coastguard and ecuadors 1667 01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:34,200 Speaker 1: in charge of defending the Galapagos the number one enemy 1668 01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 1: of the Galapagos the Chinese factory fish processing ships who 1669 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 1: are raping this sacred area. Double edged sword, my friend 1670 01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,840 Speaker 1: Shield's high. Well, Brian, that's the when I talk about 1671 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,080 Speaker 1: Chinese mercantilism, and I have a discussion with all of 1672 01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,280 Speaker 1: you here on air about what the Chinese are doing 1673 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 1: around the world that's using their financial influence to buy 1674 01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:01,920 Speaker 1: themselves essentially the ability to hillage the natural resources of 1675 01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:06,599 Speaker 1: different countries, so they give them financial you know, they 1676 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,000 Speaker 1: all they have. You remember, they don't have to pay 1677 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,000 Speaker 1: off all the people of the country. They just have 1678 01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 1: to pay off the ruling party, the regime, the ruling class. 1679 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,880 Speaker 1: So they get the government fat and happy. They get 1680 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,000 Speaker 1: the developers, the you know, the top echelon, and these 1681 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 1: third world countries feel like, oh, the Chinese are, you know, 1682 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,320 Speaker 1: fattening our bank accounts, and then they will just come 1683 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 1: in and take whatever they want, you know, strip mining 1684 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,640 Speaker 1: and you name it. However they want to do it, 1685 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,439 Speaker 1: that's what they're going to do. And that's the Chinese 1686 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,840 Speaker 1: model all over the world. They do not care. And 1687 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:42,639 Speaker 1: this is also why ultimately the debate over climate change 1688 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:47,320 Speaker 1: and environmentalism in this country is an exercise in futility. 1689 01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,680 Speaker 1: Even if the left forget about whether the left is 1690 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 1: correct in the science or not, which I think they 1691 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,040 Speaker 1: are not correct, But it's an exercise in futility because 1692 01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,160 Speaker 1: you're never going to get the Indians and the Chinese 1693 01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,519 Speaker 1: to do what you want them to do, and they're 1694 01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 1: going to be billions going forward, billions of Indians and Chinese. 1695 01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,920 Speaker 1: Just take those two countries. Never mind all the other 1696 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,360 Speaker 1: countries of the developing world that are absolutely not going 1697 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:15,480 Speaker 1: to slow down their growth and use far more expensive, 1698 01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:19,960 Speaker 1: far less efficient technology. It's just not going to happen. 1699 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they could pretend, but alrighty, let's see here 1700 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,559 Speaker 1: in right, Hey, Buck, just trying to figure out the 1701 01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 1: best way to communicate with you. Hope you got this well, Ian, 1702 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 1: I did got this so and you found out a 1703 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,439 Speaker 1: way to communicate with me. It's pretty easy. You can. 1704 01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 1: You can always send me messages via Facebook. And we're 1705 01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,479 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not even gonna say the email thing anymore 1706 01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,160 Speaker 1: because we never It's like the homework that I forget 1707 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,200 Speaker 1: to do every night for a year. It's gonna get done, 1708 01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:50,839 Speaker 1: but I'm just not gonna say I'm gonna do it anymore. 1709 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 1: Tia Rights, Hey Buck, I guess you're frustrated with the 1710 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,320 Speaker 1: whole border thing. I get it, many of us are. 1711 01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,559 Speaker 1: But I've yet to hear you encourage your listeners to 1712 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,200 Speaker 1: write to the representatives, let them know we expect them 1713 01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:08,000 Speaker 1: to support Trump. Well, t I, first of all, I've 1714 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,479 Speaker 1: seen nothing. There's nothing that I would disagree with there. 1715 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,000 Speaker 1: I certainly think that people should, especially if because most 1716 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,559 Speaker 1: Republican members of Congress are on board with Trump. I mean, 1717 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,160 Speaker 1: Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. There's no 1718 01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:24,479 Speaker 1: question about that. So if you have a representative who 1719 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:32,799 Speaker 1: is not necessarily on board with all things Trump, then 1720 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:38,200 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, worth writing a letter perhaps 1721 01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,439 Speaker 1: and trying to say, hey, can you back to the the present. 1722 01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,120 Speaker 1: Remember the problem right now is the Democrats have a 1723 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:46,000 Speaker 1: majority in the House. So that's not gonna it's not 1724 01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,559 Speaker 1: going to change anything. There's there's not going to be 1725 01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,360 Speaker 1: any real movement on boarder issues. This is why there 1726 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:55,839 Speaker 1: was a lot. Look, Trump outsource some of his domestic policy. Folks, 1727 01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 1: we live in the real world. We are not libs. 1728 01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 1: We live in the real world. We are not liberals. 1729 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:07,479 Speaker 1: Trump outsourced some of his domestic policy agenda to Paul 1730 01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:13,439 Speaker 1: Ryan in the House, which was a really, really bad idea. 1731 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,519 Speaker 1: This is what happened. So the two years where they 1732 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,920 Speaker 1: could have gotten a lot done on the domestic policy front, 1733 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 1: especially an immigration, were somewhat wasted because Trump. Now you 1734 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,599 Speaker 1: could say that Trump expected that Paul Ryan would, as 1735 01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 1: a career legislator, would know how to execute but he didn't. 1736 01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 1: He didn't, And the buck stops with Trump. We've got 1737 01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:38,599 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to work that into things. 1738 01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:42,759 Speaker 1: The buck stops with Trump, although that doesn't really express 1739 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:48,000 Speaker 1: the sentiment that I want. Michelle right, it's Buck, great 1740 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:49,479 Speaker 1: to see you back. I hear a lot of talk 1741 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,080 Speaker 1: about things agarding Trump, but the thing that concerns me 1742 01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:55,240 Speaker 1: the most is the information that is popping up concerning 1743 01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,120 Speaker 1: the long history between Trump and Epstein. Now do not 1744 01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 1: believe Trump has ever been involved with under a girls 1745 01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,559 Speaker 1: or has sexually assaulted anyone. I'm a strong supporter of 1746 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,280 Speaker 1: his since he came forward questioning Obama's qualifications for being president. 1747 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,000 Speaker 1: Obama had begun dismantling the country the second he walked 1748 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 1: in the Oval office. What is true and what is not? 1749 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,000 Speaker 1: The stories are coming up and might be enough true 1750 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,360 Speaker 1: or not to take him down. What, as an expert 1751 01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,880 Speaker 1: in analysis, do you think will happen? Many thanks and 1752 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:23,360 Speaker 1: happy you've come back. Shield's Eye Michelle, Well, Michelle, thank 1753 01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,639 Speaker 1: you for the kind words. I can't tell you exactly 1754 01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,680 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with Epstein, although I am a 1755 01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:33,439 Speaker 1: skeptic that Epstein will be punished the way that he 1756 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,880 Speaker 1: should for what he has done. Andy mccarthury wrote a 1757 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,880 Speaker 1: very compelling piece about the double jeopardy protections that Epstein 1758 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:45,880 Speaker 1: probably has based on the agreement, the initial agreement that Acosta, 1759 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,559 Speaker 1: who did step down and should have stepped down, gave him. 1760 01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,639 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of very powerful people 1761 01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,439 Speaker 1: that want the Epstein thing to go away on both 1762 01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,479 Speaker 1: sides of the aisle that said is there. Do I 1763 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,680 Speaker 1: ever have a moment of doubt? Do I ever think 1764 01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:03,640 Speaker 1: to myself, Donald Trump knew that Epstein had all these 1765 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,600 Speaker 1: underage girls around him, or even worse, Donald Trump was 1766 01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,120 Speaker 1: in any way involved with that. I have never had 1767 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,760 Speaker 1: a moment of doubt about this present when it comes 1768 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 1: to any of that, And and that's just from my 1769 01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,519 Speaker 1: gut feeling. That's what, in my heart of hearts, how 1770 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,599 Speaker 1: I feel about this. There's also no evidence to suggest 1771 01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,000 Speaker 1: that he knew about that. Trump knew about any of 1772 01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:26,120 Speaker 1: this or was involved in any of this. And in fact, 1773 01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,400 Speaker 1: Trump is the only person we've heard about, the only 1774 01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:34,200 Speaker 1: prominent individual who was willing to do something to take 1775 01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,559 Speaker 1: Epstein to task by kicking him out of marl Lago 1776 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 1: and essentially calling him a dirt bag that's going to 1777 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,240 Speaker 1: be at for today. Team always a privilege and a pleasure. 1778 01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm up here in NYC. I'll be up here for 1779 01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,200 Speaker 1: the rest of the week. I will talk to you 1780 01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:52,200 Speaker 1: all tomorrow, same time, same place, From the Freedom Hunt 1781 01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:53,920 Speaker 1: over and out and shields Hi