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Speaker 2: o Cho. The forty nine ers got back on the
Speaker 2: winning track with a solid win tonight on the road
Speaker 2: against the Seattle Seahawks thirty six to twenty four. Brock
Speaker 2: Purty had another strong game, throwing the football two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty five yards, three touchdown.
Speaker 3: George Kettle was cooking.
Speaker 2: I needed you last week, George, to get me a
Speaker 2: touchdown so I could have won that Partlay Kittle fifty.
Speaker 2: He had five catches for fifty eight yards and two
Speaker 2: scores on joe Isaea Garndo Grindo filled an average for
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason. He had ninety nine yards on ten carries.
Speaker 2: Mason had a strong night before he got injured. Gino
Speaker 2: Smith struggled despite throwing for three hundred yards, finished with
Speaker 2: the touchdowns and tour interception. Kennis Walker had fourteen carries
Speaker 2: for thirty two yards in the score. Tyler Lockett called
Speaker 2: four passes sixty five yards and a touchdown. But I
Speaker 2: thought this game could have been over a lot earlier
Speaker 2: Oho had The forty nine has been like they were
Speaker 2: last year, really good in the red zone because you
Speaker 2: see early on they were selling for field goals and yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know who you selling for a field goals,
Speaker 2: You get a field goal and then next thing you know,
Speaker 2: you kick the ball off and the guy runs it back.
Speaker 2: And what should have been a more lop sided game.
Speaker 2: But give those guys credit. Pretty stood in the pocket,
Speaker 2: played really well. The running game was really good. And
Speaker 2: so when you can run the ball, it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: who's back there. As long as you can run the football,
Speaker 2: you can play action off of it, and good things
Speaker 2: normally happen for you down the field. But you see McIver,
Speaker 2: that's what we call debo. They talking about your swists.
Speaker 2: Sorry night nah. That joke of macaiva, because he can
Speaker 2: make anything work. He can return punts, he can return kickoff,
Speaker 2: you can line him up in the backfield like a
Speaker 2: true running back, you can put him in the slot,
Speaker 2: you can put him out wide. There's nothing he can't
Speaker 2: do on the football field. So he had an outstanding
Speaker 2: game tonight. I think he had over one hundred yards
Speaker 2: or close up, maybe over one hundred yards or like
Speaker 2: three or four three catches and is starting to get
Speaker 2: into the floor of things. He started to look like
Speaker 2: the Brandon nik of last year, the guy that was
Speaker 2: you know, when Debo got hurt, showed that he could
Speaker 2: be a number one receiver. Kittles was killed a loutstanding
Speaker 2: job of blocking. The offensive line was solid again. But
Speaker 2: I thought they really played well Ojo and got back
Speaker 2: on the winning track considering the last couple of weeks
Speaker 2: they led a couple slip away.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they played well. Their first fourth series,
Speaker 5: they ended up scoring. Obviously, the first one they got
Speaker 5: seven and three field goals after that, Yeah, the first
Speaker 5: five possessions for the goddamn Seahawks, they got nothing going. Obviously,
Speaker 5: Geno can't really throw those interceptions to give himself a
Speaker 5: chin to give his team a chance offensively. Obviously, the
Speaker 5: kickoff I mean there was kickoff return in the second half, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the kickoff return in the second half kind of got
Speaker 5: them in rhythm. And obviously once they got the ball back,
Speaker 5: that was one of their best drives. That went down
Speaker 5: and scored again. And it was fourteen on answered at
Speaker 5: that point, and it kind of it kind of somewhat
Speaker 5: stalled out, you know a little bit into the fourth quarter,
Speaker 5: but by that time, Genuine throwing it up to pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that that that dude.
Speaker 5: Obviously Gino is against the forty nine ers, he's on five.
Speaker 1: He's on five and that's including the playoffs, so he
Speaker 1: doesn't play well against him.
Speaker 5: In order from Gino to be able to beat them
Speaker 5: and give their team a chance, you just can't turn
Speaker 5: the ball over. You can't turn the ball over, and
Speaker 5: some of those possessions that you do have, you got
Speaker 5: to get points out of it. You got to get points.
Speaker 5: I think the first four or five possessions the Seahawks
Speaker 5: had they got nothing. They got nothing out of that,
Speaker 5: and then get a field goal until until I think
Speaker 5: a little later. By that time, you know, the forty
Speaker 5: nines were ahead by fourteen or so. But other than that,
Speaker 5: I mean, it was, it was, it was. It was
Speaker 5: a decent game. I would have liked to see the
Speaker 5: Seahawks play a little better for them to get where
Speaker 5: they want to go. Uh their teams like this, these
Speaker 5: are the type of team that they need to compete
Speaker 5: with and the type of teams that they need to beat.
Speaker 5: And I think, hell it all it all stars with
Speaker 5: the quarterback play. You know, Gino has to play better.
Speaker 5: I'm sure he knows that. When he watched his film,
Speaker 5: he'll see some of the throw that he missed.
Speaker 3: Third down, that third down that he had? What was that?
Speaker 3: It was that locket? Was it in jigma.
Speaker 5: Uh jig on one of the crossest.
Speaker 1: Dk DK got it.
Speaker 5: You got to help me out a little bit, you
Speaker 5: got you got to help me have a little bit
Speaker 5: across the middle or early in the.
Speaker 1: Game when that dig I mean, just listen, I'm nitpicking.
Speaker 1: I'm nitpicking.
Speaker 5: But there you got to almost be perfect at every
Speaker 5: skill position and short for your quarterback because when you're
Speaker 5: playing a team like this, you got to be perfect.
Speaker 5: You damn nick gotta play perfect, perfect football to compete
Speaker 5: with them. And listen, if you try to get to
Speaker 5: the playoffs, if you're trying to be serious about winning
Speaker 5: the Lombardi is game like this where you got to
Speaker 5: show well.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is thought, Joe, is that when
Speaker 2: you play like what's your ultimate goals? Because if your
Speaker 2: ultimate goals are not winning the championship, what you're not nitpicking,
Speaker 2: don't even worry about it.
Speaker 3: That y'all do what y'all want to do, everything will
Speaker 3: be okay.
Speaker 2: But if your ultimate goal to win a championship and
Speaker 2: you lose the game, those are the things that you
Speaker 2: can go back and focus on it, says, Okay, guy,
Speaker 2: we got to make these plays here, so play here
Speaker 2: or there. And that's the difference. It comes down the
Speaker 2: guys making plays or not making plays. This's really you know, look,
Speaker 2: no matter what the sport is, it's really it's really
Speaker 2: not that complicated. What team made the most plays and
Speaker 2: when did they make said plays? Because all plays aren't
Speaker 2: created equal, And that's what people get upset at me
Speaker 2: about the like, well the guy plays well, I said, well,
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question, what role did that interception?
Speaker 3: Play? Late? And see?
Speaker 2: And people got on meal by Joe Burrow, I said,
Speaker 2: hold on, all I know is that the Bengals had
Speaker 2: to lead until he gave he fumbled the football and
Speaker 2: they got a scoop and score right.
Speaker 3: Well, ain't welling?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying a turnover in the first quarter
Speaker 2: is not doesing to have the same weight, O Joe
Speaker 2: as a turnover in the fourth quarter with two minutes
Speaker 2: left in the game, especially when the game. Now, if
Speaker 2: you turn it over in the first quarter, you turn
Speaker 2: over the fourth quarter, and you up by seventeen points
Speaker 2: with two minutes ago, no harm, no foul. But when
Speaker 2: you in a one possession game. Hell it can't be nothing,
Speaker 2: but probably the likelihood early in the game like that
Speaker 2: one possession game, because hell, you just started. You just
Speaker 2: started the first quarter. So the likelihood of you being
Speaker 2: down twenty one nothing to twenty eight nothing in the
Speaker 2: first quarter is not very likely.
Speaker 3: So all turnovers aren't created equal.
Speaker 2: And so when you look at it, you go back,
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, that third down, because that gives me
Speaker 2: another three to four downs, o Joe to get the
Speaker 2: ball closer to the m zone in the en zone
Speaker 2: or get it in close the field goal range. And
Speaker 2: so and you look at him, like, damn Gino. I
Speaker 2: can see if he was under the rest, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: but he shot that like like feet over on the dudes.
Speaker 5: Hey, well, also listen, they somebody somebody on office I
Speaker 5: don't know who the office of coordinator is, even the
Speaker 5: head coach.
Speaker 1: If you can see, God damn bos is very destructive,
Speaker 1: then tire the entire got that game. If anything slapped
Speaker 1: the goddamn protection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to.
Speaker 5: He's disrupting in forcing Geno that he's forcing Geno to
Speaker 5: throw faster than he wants to.
Speaker 1: You know, he got two seconds at least give him
Speaker 1: three seconds.
Speaker 5: He get the ball in his hands and it's two
Speaker 5: seconds before they can get before they can even get
Speaker 5: into the goddamn route Boston right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see the problem is you got Leonard Floyd
Speaker 2: on the other side, so you slide that one way.
Speaker 2: So now you got Leonard Floyd working one on one,
Speaker 2: so you got to basically, so unless unless you want
Speaker 2: to chip your way out on both sides and leave
Speaker 2: your guards inside on the d tackles because you know
Speaker 2: they're they're they're their pressure is outside pressure because Hargrove,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, I think Hargrove is hurt and
Speaker 2: he's on ir. So they don't really have anybody that
Speaker 2: can consistently collapse the pocket from inside and then force
Speaker 2: you into Bosa and Leonard Floyd. So basically the pressure
Speaker 2: is coming from outside and Geno must step up in
Speaker 2: the pocket.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing.
Speaker 2: While they went and got Leonard Floyd, and it just
Speaker 2: goes to show you, oh, Jo sometimes a change of venue.
Speaker 2: People thought Leonard Floyd was a bust in Chicago. Think
Speaker 2: about it now, he was a top ten pig. Really
Speaker 2: didn't do a whole lot, but everywhere he's been since
Speaker 2: the Rams. He was big, he Von Miller and Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: You see what he did in Buffalo. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: I think he had double digit sacks in Buffalo. Parlaid
Speaker 2: that into a big contract with the forty nine ers. Sometimes, look,
Speaker 2: you just need a change of scenery, or you need
Speaker 2: somebody to understand your skill set and can maximize that
Speaker 2: skill set and your ability in what you do very well.
Speaker 2: But I thought the forty nine ers played really well.
Speaker 2: The only thing that I had a problem with Ojoe
Speaker 2: is that you can't kick field goals. I mean you cannot,
Speaker 2: You cannot, you cannot. You played the ultimate price. The
Speaker 2: only thing that saved them tonight is that Seattle couldn't
Speaker 2: get anything going early because you keep kicking field goals.
Speaker 2: Two touchdowns. This team's right back in the game. They
Speaker 2: hell they got a lead. Yeah so, but give those
Speaker 2: guys credit. I thought Brock forty played played a really
Speaker 2: strong game. Three touchdowns, two fifty five clean games, that's
Speaker 2: what you gotta have. Last week, it wasn't his befinest
Speaker 2: outing with wasn't his best effort turning the ball over
Speaker 2: and when you're depleted somewhat down on the offensive side
Speaker 2: of football. Look, yeah, they're running the football, but those
Speaker 2: guys aren't c Mac. Those guys just they can't just
Speaker 2: do what he does.
Speaker 1: Ojo, hold on, hold on, man hold on.
Speaker 5: Jorge Mason numbers looked just as good as seamac numbers
Speaker 5: at the same time last year.
Speaker 1: But see, so is it really Cemac or is it
Speaker 1: the scheme in the in the offense?
Speaker 5: And then the players that Kyle Shanahan is calling chat
Speaker 5: y'all stay with me a little bit. Look at CEMAC's
Speaker 5: numbers to week five and look at Jordan Mason's number
Speaker 5: till week five. I mean it might be equivalent, it
Speaker 5: might be a little bit more. I'm not sure what
Speaker 5: the production is. I might be off by a little bit,
Speaker 5: but it ain't too far off. So it got me thinking, well,
Speaker 5: can you is this a putting in plug or put
Speaker 5: anybody in type situation at running back and see it?
Speaker 5: I mean now Seattle in San Francisco, because it seemed
Speaker 5: like whoever's back there in that system, they get a
Speaker 5: goddamn done.
Speaker 2: I give a private example. I'm I'm I know this
Speaker 2: system very well. You look at all the guys that
Speaker 2: came after TD you look at Clinton Borders, you look
Speaker 2: at Mike Anderson, you look at Ruben Drones, you look
Speaker 2: at all the guys. Those guys could get yards. TV
Speaker 2: could run you to a Super Bowl. Right, that's the difference.
Speaker 2: Those guys can get yards, Christian McCaffrey run you to
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game. He can run you to a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. He ain't offensive player. He wasn't Offensive Player
Speaker 2: of the year. Now which one of those guys they
Speaker 2: have comparable numbers, is gonna be Offensive Player of the
Speaker 2: Year because he had those numbers and twenty touchdowns. You
Speaker 2: see the difference. Now, I can put him in a situation.
Speaker 2: But you gotta think.
Speaker 5: Now we're comparing what he did in the full season,
Speaker 5: and we're looking at a small symber size of what
Speaker 5: Jordan Mason has been able to do. So I'm trying
Speaker 5: to say, what happened if Jordan Mason has a sixteen
Speaker 5: week season based on his production so far, what if
Speaker 5: it's did get hurt? He left the goddamn game was
Speaker 5: seventy or ninety three some yards and on fourteen some carries.
Speaker 2: But what happened he played the whole game touchdowns. Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffery had touchdown, So you win with scores, not y'all.
Speaker 1: And he could do so much more too, outside of
Speaker 1: just running out.
Speaker 3: I got them.
Speaker 2: I can throw him the ball, yeah, as hard as
Speaker 2: hard to set your defense.
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna hand it to him? Or are they
Speaker 3: gonna throw it to him? Right?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: The likelihood of them throwing the ball to Jordan Mason
Speaker 2: on something other than the screen, it might not be
Speaker 2: a sad that an't happen to Joe. But give the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers credit. They needed this ball game on
Speaker 2: a short week, A very, very tough lost last week
Speaker 2: to Arizona. They were up up late by double figures
Speaker 2: late in the fourth quarter. If I'm not mistaken, and
Speaker 2: they found a way to lose that ball game. Give
Speaker 2: Arizona credit. Kyler Murray and his team made plays, but
Speaker 2: they wanted to get that taste out of their mouth.
Speaker 3: They had lost.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, they had lost to the Rams,
Speaker 2: and they had lost already lost to the the the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: You don't want to lose three, didn't they lose to
Speaker 2: the Ram? I think they lost to the Rams? So
Speaker 2: that was two division losses. A third division loss Joe
Speaker 2: so early.
Speaker 1: They'd be behind the eight ball like a mother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they definitely would have been.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe count former count former head coach, six times
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winning head coach as a head coach, Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick among those who are confused with the just decision
Speaker 2: of fire coach Robert Sala after just five game. It
Speaker 2: is a little bit puzzling. It is what it is,
Speaker 2: and everybody has to move forward. It's an honest prerogative
Speaker 2: to make that decision, and clearly that's what he decided
Speaker 2: to do. But there have been a lot of things
Speaker 2: that have been kind of confusing. It hasn't been a
Speaker 2: great situation for the Jets this year. You can kind
Speaker 2: of feel that it's been kind of a chill and
Speaker 2: listen and what.
Speaker 1: Did Johnson know? Damn what that was has got damned called.
Speaker 1: Come on now, the just are two and three. We
Speaker 1: all know. Listen.
Speaker 5: They both had a book. Robert Sala had a book
Speaker 5: and Aaron Rodgers had a book. Neither one the mufflers
Speaker 5: on the same page. We know that we can see
Speaker 5: the black language, the mannerisms. They running the same page.
Speaker 5: When they did the press conference talking about the cadence,
Speaker 5: they run on the same page. A quarterback and head
Speaker 5: coach are always on the same page at all times.
Speaker 5: They did not get along. Aaron Rodgers needs to take accountability,
Speaker 5: which he has done for his play. The Jets are
Speaker 5: two and three right now. The goddamn Jets was two
Speaker 5: and three? Was Zach Wilson last year at the same time,
Speaker 5: at the week five point?
Speaker 1: What? Yeah, hold on, stay stay stay with me.
Speaker 5: Now. I know, I know you want to jump on
Speaker 5: me by that, but I'm just saying, so, hey, if
Speaker 5: based off that, you might as well stuck with it.
Speaker 1: You might as well have stuck with Zach. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has to play better.
Speaker 5: The defense is playing well, they're playing okay, I'm not
Speaker 5: saying they're playing lights out like they were last year,
Speaker 5: but it is earlier this season. I'm sure they're going
Speaker 5: to get better than the season goes on. But we
Speaker 5: need a little bit more of the Aaron Rodgers of old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: We need a little bit more the mistakes, the interceptions.
Speaker 1: You can you can't. You can't do it. You're killing
Speaker 1: your team. You're killing your team.
Speaker 2: When when has he gotten along with any coaches? And
Speaker 2: the last time he got along with coaches.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny when when I think about it,
Speaker 5: this is the first time I seen him outside of
Speaker 5: Green Bay, and I'm not sure him and Matt Lafleur
Speaker 5: didn't get along.
Speaker 2: Really when he when he went on there and told
Speaker 2: that that when let Matt Laflour kicked the field goal
Speaker 2: on fourth down and he's oh and the tie rate
Speaker 2: what he had on the sideline? You thought he got
Speaker 2: along with Matt Laflure, yest.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
Speaker 5: I remember that, but I saw Silh tried to hug
Speaker 5: him after throwing a touchdown in him and push him
Speaker 5: off and give him that look, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, you know what, Oh, oh he don't. He don't
Speaker 1: he don't like him? Oh he don't.
Speaker 5: He definitely I knew, I knew. I knew there was
Speaker 5: a lack of respect for his coach. When the skipped
Speaker 5: that got damn. That got damn Joe.
Speaker 2: Why we make it a big deal about that? All
Speaker 2: I know is the people told me that was not
Speaker 2: a big deal.
Speaker 5: It's a big deal because if anybody else he asked
Speaker 5: would have got you got he asked, would have got cut?
Speaker 2: Oh that cut You don't know the problem is.
Speaker 1: That as your question?
Speaker 5: What happened for Lamar Jackson to skip goddamn minicamp? Mandatory
Speaker 5: mandatory minicamp? Come on, man, stay state, stay with me.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, you know whether.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just listening.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just throwing it out there for a
Speaker 5: little bit of context, just a little bit of content.
Speaker 1: I've been understanding.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, Shanny, you hate that man.
Speaker 2: You hate that man when I've been one of misconscious defenders. Listen,
Speaker 2: his ability to throw the football is unquestioned. I questioned
Speaker 2: some of the things that he does that are not conducive.
Speaker 3: To winning and leadership.
Speaker 2: You cannot have that guy on a mandatory mini camp
Speaker 2: unless it is an absolute emergency. You going to Egypt?
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you a dignitary? You're trying to
Speaker 2: bring peace to the Middle East. That's the only reason
Speaker 2: I will excuse that.
Speaker 1: If we're just saying, is here what a dignitary?
Speaker 2: Yes, if he can bring peace, he's to the Middle East.
Speaker 2: All means go take as much time as you need.
Speaker 2: But mandatory means that is required. Voluntary means you volunteer,
Speaker 2: if you come, if you want to. It's just like
Speaker 2: when you volunteer to do charity work. You volunteered. Now
Speaker 2: if you do something, they will uh uh just the
Speaker 2: criminal justice system will demand you do community service. You
Speaker 2: see you say how they do that? He's what hired
Speaker 2: to do? Fifty hours, one hundred hours community service? Oh
Speaker 2: shalling volunteer that good will shall shall a volunteer at
Speaker 2: the homeless mission.
Speaker 3: You see the difference. But everybody made excuses.
Speaker 2: See what y'all fit this with out like fans, y'all
Speaker 2: make excuses with old Chase. I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: Let me take that back on jump. Sorry, it's the messenger,
Speaker 2: y'all ain't got nobody. It's the messenger that's given you
Speaker 2: the message. Because had Coach Belichick, has anybody else said
Speaker 2: exactly what I've been saying, nobody would have had a
Speaker 2: problem with it. But it's because old Shape said it,
Speaker 2: and y'all don't like when she be right. And I
Speaker 2: don't want to pack myself on the back. But Mary
Speaker 2: Ford once told me, say, boy, you got through good hand.
Speaker 2: You don't need nobody to pack you on the damn back.
Speaker 2: Patch yourself on the back. Yeah, I've been trying to
Speaker 2: tell y'all for the longest y'all see what y'all want
Speaker 2: to do. Y'all try to see what a lot of
Speaker 2: times what they'll try to do, oh ho, is that
Speaker 2: they'll try to undercut you and try to make it
Speaker 2: about something else.
Speaker 3: What they try to do. But y'all can't. Y'all came
Speaker 3: fool of shape because I've been in the locker room.
Speaker 2: I've been a leader in locker rooms or shutting you
Speaker 2: into that locker room. And then when it comes out,
Speaker 2: oh oh oh no, no, when I said that it
Speaker 2: wasn't no problem, it was a problem. Now what's being
Speaker 2: said every everywhere?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's always a head coach always needs this quarterback,
Speaker 6: not just as a leader, but to actually lead by example.
Speaker 3: He got to buy in because if he don't, nobody
Speaker 3: else will.
Speaker 1: Got to be the one to buy in.
Speaker 5: Because as a quarterback didn't buy in, then everything else
Speaker 5: is fragmented.
Speaker 1: Everything else is fragmented.
Speaker 5: That's why the quarterback position is so important, and him
Speaker 5: doing all the right things because as he goes, everybody
Speaker 5: else goes.
Speaker 2: The moment it was mandatory minicamp and he didn't show up,
Speaker 2: Robert Sala had no more authority. Oh yeah, most definitely
Speaker 2: it was well he had he had little to begin with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who it is that?
Speaker 3: And think about what they did to get him.
Speaker 2: They're flying back and forth from New York to California,
Speaker 2: they're courting, they're basically begging this man to come and
Speaker 2: save us. So Aaron already knows he's going in with
Speaker 2: a lot of power, just like Tom. That's why Tom
Speaker 2: was able to go get Dronk. That's why he was
Speaker 2: able to go get a Antonio Brown.
Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it, we talked about two
Speaker 5: different mindsets. Yeah, we had to totally bingo one of
Speaker 5: my team and the others all of myself. You'll get
Speaker 5: paid to Tom with one goal in mind. Yes I'm
Speaker 5: getting me another one. Yes, I'm getting me another one,
Speaker 5: and bought all the way in. He was that mandatory,
Speaker 5: voluntary matter of fact. He was there when he want's
Speaker 5: supposed to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peyton, Matt, Tom Brady. You remember he went to it,
Speaker 2: bless you. You remember he't find that you ain't gonna come,
Speaker 2: you don't want to come? You okay, don't worry by that.
Speaker 2: Oh Lord, have Bert, Oh Joe, You're supposed to do it,
Speaker 2: and now you wanted when I see you want me
Speaker 2: to dap you up.
Speaker 1: Nah, Now I don't. I don't dap up.
Speaker 3: I got a fist bump, Yo Jo. I'm just like that.
Speaker 2: You know. Hey, you go right there. That's what That's
Speaker 2: what we are right now, Oh Joe, that's what we
Speaker 2: are right now. Let me get the hand Sanitaras, what's
Speaker 2: my bag?
Speaker 3: Let me get that. You got my hand? Stand to Jordan,
Speaker 3: I'm well, I got o Joe. I know you.
Speaker 2: But when I see you good, no real real, gave
Speaker 2: me a cold. I'm gonna I'm gonna put somebody in
Speaker 2: your hand. Then we're gonna dap up first imat Belie
Speaker 2: bottle with it.
Speaker 1: But I see you all right, I got you, I
Speaker 1: got you.
Speaker 3: But if you think about it, O Joe.
Speaker 2: When Tom Brady, Tom Brady, when he went to the Buccaneers, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: you remember he got thrown out the park for throwing
Speaker 2: the ball. Say, this man wanted to be so ingratiated
Speaker 2: with his teammates, so lockstep in barrel. He do. We
Speaker 2: can't go to the facility, but we're gonna go into
Speaker 2: the park. But they say no, you can't gather even
Speaker 2: in the park. When Peyton Manning sided with the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Let's see when it comes to Peyton Manning and the
Speaker 2: Broncos say, I ain't tell you what somebody tell you.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what I know. I'm telling what I know.
Speaker 2: This like when I say certain things about the Broncos. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's a we died in Nashville, O Joe, somebody I guess.
Speaker 1: Who had that over.
Speaker 2: Oh my man will open it back up again. Well,
Speaker 2: but you see the different but you see the different
Speaker 2: mindsets when Peyton, Tom Brady and the other guy you
Speaker 2: see you see the mindset. But see what happens is
Speaker 2: is that the more accomplished someone is, people are willing
Speaker 2: to forgive behavior.
Speaker 3: Becoming the accomplishment.
Speaker 2: See a guy that's not accomplished, he can't miss, well,
Speaker 2: nobody should be able to miss. That's why they record.
Speaker 2: That's why they call it mandatory. And then they made
Speaker 2: excuses for it. At first they made excuses, and then
Speaker 2: when they got out of it reported that he didn't have
Speaker 2: an excused absence. Then it came out and then that's
Speaker 2: when he started like, you know, they just slapped something
Speaker 2: on the end of it. No, bro, everybody know what
Speaker 2: mandatory is When you get to when you go to Ota.
Speaker 3: You see that thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got voluntary volunteer and the last one is mandatory.
Speaker 2: It's always been like that, It's probably always going to
Speaker 2: be like that.
Speaker 3: But who's surprised by this? Who? I just want to know,
Speaker 3: jazz fan.
Speaker 2: But look, I get it, Jess, when you struggle, y'all
Speaker 2: hadn't won the championship since this fucking elxcupid since the
Speaker 2: late sixties, early seventies.
Speaker 3: So I get it.
Speaker 2: Your starving, your you have an unquenchable thirst to be
Speaker 2: a champion again. I get that. And so y'all are
Speaker 2: willing to accept negative behavior. You'll make a deal with
Speaker 2: the devil. Oh, Joe, when it comes due, I worry
Speaker 2: about what the pay, but what he's asking for later,
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: Want to deal.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't care whatever it is.
Speaker 3: I'm doing this deal with the devil.
Speaker 2: Whatever he's asking for later, I'm willing to do it
Speaker 2: if I get what I wanted to be in the meantime.
Speaker 2: And then when it comes down to what I got
Speaker 2: to pay, what I have to pay that debt off with,
Speaker 2: Oh well, I worry about that then. But who's surprised
Speaker 2: that the Jets are in this situation. I just want
Speaker 2: to know what rational saying. Individual is surprised the Jets
Speaker 2: are where they are. You know what?
Speaker 5: The one thing I can say is, even though things
Speaker 5: aren't good right now, they are two and three.
Speaker 3: Place.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if they already get out of this hole.
Speaker 5: Because the a f C is up for grand THEFC
Speaker 5: is that for gant that division? Oh you know what
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 1: I mean I meant to say. I'm meant to say
Speaker 1: the FCS is often.
Speaker 5: We don't know, Josh Allen about Jatri were not many
Speaker 5: now they started drinking may. I don't know why they're
Speaker 5: throwing that rook you stars.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Oh Joe, You're not gonna win no games
Speaker 2: throwing for no one hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 1: You're right, hell you put the rookie in therey thing.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do better.
Speaker 3: He can't do work.
Speaker 1: You got a left tackle the right tackle that can't
Speaker 1: block no god damn body.
Speaker 2: So what you think is gonna happen, dream is more
Speaker 2: athletic than jakobeat.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, we use that.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 5: This is the thing about the Jess. If you are
Speaker 5: just fan, this is what I can't say about Anon Rogers,
Speaker 5: even though he looked pitiful, even though he looked abysmal
Speaker 5: the last game, He's the type of player that can
Speaker 5: that that can catch fire. Yeah, that can catch fire
Speaker 5: and look completely different than what he than what he
Speaker 5: looked last last week, completely different. So I'm worried about him,
Speaker 5: But I'm not worried about him at the same time,
Speaker 5: because I know what he can do.
Speaker 2: The New York's term head coach Jeff Ubrick, who announced
Speaker 2: that they're shifting Todd Downing to offensive play caller Strip
Speaker 2: Roll from Nathaniel Hackett and Downing last day as OC
Speaker 2: in Tennessee Titans in twenty twenty two. He was fired
Speaker 2: after the Tennessee Titans finished thirtieth overall in offense in
Speaker 2: twenty eighth in points scored.
Speaker 5: Now, how do you people getting jobs?
Speaker 1: What did he finish? What numbers?
Speaker 2: Did he finish thirtieth and overall offense in twenty eighth
Speaker 2: in points and he's.
Speaker 1: Supposed to be taking over for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: We just had a whole offensively last week, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean make it make sense.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Nathaniel Hackett got a job, and
Speaker 2: he had never called plays for Green Bay. He got
Speaker 2: a job because his boy was Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: led the Broncos, led the Broncos to believe that if
Speaker 2: they signed what you call him at the head coach,
Speaker 2: he'd be willing to come to the Broncos. Everybody saw
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackets painting on full display right now. Now they
Speaker 2: now owners say they want somebody that's called plays. He
Speaker 2: got a job at a franchise having never called plays. Okay,
Speaker 2: when he got an opportunity to call plays, he was
Speaker 2: good and terrible.
Speaker 1: He goes, hold on, hold on, Joe.
Speaker 2: Gets the job with the Jets, because why won't Joe?
Speaker 2: They won't set one said individual to come play for
Speaker 2: them right now now after now you tell me the
Speaker 2: job you gonna get as an offensive coordinator. After they
Speaker 2: saw you call plays in Denver and you were awful.
Speaker 2: You wasn't even what the elephant left on the showground.
Speaker 2: And everybody knows what the elephant left on the showground.
Speaker 5: Well we know how you got that, yuh though, you
Speaker 5: know who asks for that, and that's why. And also
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers to get on, to get on that, to
Speaker 5: get on Pat mcafeel and say, I don't have the
Speaker 5: power people think I have?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Who Man, who are you fooling?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Dumb dumbs that actually believe that Jet fans they turned
Speaker 2: Rogers supporters that actually believe that I'm man.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think people understand how much power he does
Speaker 5: actually have. Once you look, you look at the scenario
Speaker 5: of going on the goddamn trip. He's supposed to be
Speaker 5: at mandatory minicamp that lets you know who hold who
Speaker 5: hold all the goddamn car.
Speaker 2: But they told me everything I need to know about
Speaker 2: him because Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahone and Tom Brady would
Speaker 2: have never done that. It told me everything I needed
Speaker 2: to know about him. I don't even nobody to tell
Speaker 2: me about him. See I see better than I hear.
Speaker 2: I hear what he says about winning is the most
Speaker 2: important thing. Like my grandfather can tell my brother and
Speaker 2: I y'all told me, y'all told me, y'all gonna take
Speaker 2: that trash out. I still see it sitting over in
Speaker 2: the corner. See I see better than not here. I
Speaker 2: hear what you're saying, but I know what I see.
Speaker 2: So am I supposed to believe my lying eyes for
Speaker 2: my listening ears right told me everything I needed to
Speaker 2: know about him.
Speaker 1: Hold On, I got to use that one. Am I
Speaker 1: supposed to be my lying eyes?
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to believe my lying eyes or my
Speaker 2: listening ears. But Joe, all he had to do, all
Speaker 2: he had to do was your show up ingratiate yourself.
Speaker 2: He and Gary Wilson are still really not on the
Speaker 2: same page, Jojo, It's still not Garrett. Hold On, did
Speaker 2: Gary Wilson win Offensive Rookie of the Year? How does
Speaker 2: man win Offensive Rookie other year? With what Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: Mike White?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers, even at this age and as bad
Speaker 2: as he's playing, is ten fifteen times the players they
Speaker 2: were ever gonna be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just all.
Speaker 2: Throw the ball. Joe Flackel might have been thrown in
Speaker 2: the ball. One thing Joe Flacko could do is throw it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: You gotta protect them, Ojoe, gotta protect you because you
Speaker 2: oh yeah, he ain't moving Nowhere'm going nowhere? Ol Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 2: uh but because remember hold On. On Wednesday, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: emphatically denied playing a part in Robert Sola's dismissal from
Speaker 2: the Jets. During his weekly Pat McAfee show appearance, he said,
Speaker 2: as far as any of the ridiculous allegations out there,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm not gonna spend more than a sentence
Speaker 2: in response to it. And that's that I resent any
Speaker 2: of those accusations because they are patently false. It's interesting
Speaker 2: the amount of power that people think I have, which
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I love Robert.
Speaker 2: I love my exit when I wid him, but guess
Speaker 2: what I ain't with him?
Speaker 3: I love you know.
Speaker 1: You know what I wish.
Speaker 5: I wish people that were sources always stated who they were.
Speaker 3: Then you wouldn't get no information.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 5: I wish when it came to players, I wish they
Speaker 5: were dishonesty. I wish they were a PC. I wish
Speaker 5: when it came to quarterbacks and they gave interviews, I
Speaker 5: wish they really said what they really felt.
Speaker 1: I wish they really said what they were really thinking.
Speaker 5: All players of PC, I really hate that, and I
Speaker 5: think it would be so much better. The NFL would
Speaker 5: be so much more authentic and real if people just
Speaker 5: even coaches. I wish they just said exactly how they
Speaker 5: feel about certain players, but they don't.
Speaker 3: I can't say.
Speaker 2: I can't say, y'all, sum Remember you remember how them
Speaker 2: asked them, did he want to say anything to the
Speaker 2: team and say no, they got me fired.
Speaker 5: Yep, hey, hey, I said, all the time players get
Speaker 5: coaches fired. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Uh. On Thursday, when asked about the firing and the
Speaker 2: demotion of offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, Rogers took the blame.
Speaker 2: He said, I played better and this doesn't happen. Hold on, Ojo,
Speaker 2: That's not my first time saying it. But I went
Speaker 2: on first Take on Tuesday and said, two of the
Speaker 2: most worst days of my life is when Dan Reeves,
Speaker 2: who drafted me but forgot to cut me, and Wade
Speaker 2: Phillips lost their job.
Speaker 3: Because normally when you when a.
Speaker 2: Head coach get fired and you have an interim head coach, Ojo,
Speaker 2: guess what happened?
Speaker 3: The staff's going. So it's just not one job.
Speaker 2: What's the likelihood you think those Jets, what's the likelihood
Speaker 2: of anybody that's on the Jets or returning next year,
Speaker 2: Ojo not happening out? And that's what bothered me, Ojo,
Speaker 2: because I was like, damn, had I became, and I'm
Speaker 2: not a quarterback.
Speaker 3: I'm a tight end. This is the way I think.
Speaker 2: Had I became the player that I later became and
Speaker 2: ended up going into the Hall of Fame, maybe I
Speaker 2: could have saved their jobs. Maybe I could have. It
Speaker 2: bothered me. It still does. I talked myosition coach in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, were Less Stucco. He lives here in Nashville.
Speaker 2: He called me today, call me sweetheart. He knows all
Speaker 2: my kids birthday. He'll always a tell tell Kayla happy birthday,
Speaker 2: t tell k tell the kids happy birthday.
Speaker 3: He remembers all of that right, and he was. I
Speaker 3: invited him to the Hall.
Speaker 2: Any time I had something going on, I would always
Speaker 2: invite him. Man, I made the Pro Bowls. I took
Speaker 2: him and his wife flew in first class. Put him up.
Speaker 2: All my position coaches even when I wasn't there, Even
Speaker 2: when I went to the Pro Bowl in Baltimore. Every
Speaker 2: position coach that I that coached me, I brought him
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bows them and the wife put him up.
Speaker 2: It bothered me, oh Joe, because I play a role
Speaker 2: in that coach getting fired. I wasn't doing what I
Speaker 2: was supposed to do. And I wish more players understood that.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that's part of okay, but you don't
Speaker 2: think it's part of it. You don't just think it's
Speaker 2: part of business. When your ass get cut the pet.
Speaker 2: Oh man, they did your boy dirty. Blah blah blah
Speaker 2: nah nah nah. It's a part of the game. It's
Speaker 2: part of the game. It's part of the game. It's
Speaker 2: a part of the game. But I just he said
Speaker 2: I played better. Rogers has completed sixty one percent of
Speaker 2: his passes one thosy ninety three yards, seven touchdown the
Speaker 2: fourd exception. His QBR forty nine point one ranks twenty
Speaker 2: first in the NFL. The Giants offensively are ranked twenty
Speaker 2: seventh and yards per game to eighty six twenty thirty
Speaker 2: points per game eighteen point six through the first five
Speaker 2: games of the season. It's just, bro, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: just wish he got it. But you know what, here's
Speaker 2: the problem that he has. He's so arrogant, he's so pompous,
Speaker 2: he's so cavalier that he believes that if you're not
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, if you're not Tom Brady, or you're not
Speaker 2: someone of the upteenth art, you don't have.
Speaker 3: You should not have an opinion on how he plays.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't have opinion on his leadership because he feels
Speaker 2: that you're beneath him because you didn't play this position.
Speaker 2: So how dare you critique me? I don't believe. It
Speaker 2: is my belief and I could be on an island
Speaker 2: by myself that nobody to beyond reproach.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. They're not They're not at all at all.
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't ever talk about nobody, but man,
Speaker 5: say he got it got to be said. If you
Speaker 5: got me talking and saying what it is and what
Speaker 5: needs to be done, it needs to be fixed, and
Speaker 5: chastising it, you know something wrong?
Speaker 2: For sure, everybody does but for the but but a
Speaker 2: lot of people because you want to have a relationship with,
Speaker 2: say a player.
Speaker 3: If I see the player, I wanted.
Speaker 2: To run over there and doubt be up a man, Hey,
Speaker 2: hey you want to drink blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: This by such good? Nah.
Speaker 2: I think I ought to them to say what I see, right,
Speaker 2: I don't have, no, I don't have. Have. I seen
Speaker 2: a lot of players that I critique and they pretend
Speaker 2: like they don't see me. Yep, And I pretend like
Speaker 2: I don't see them too. We both pretend that what
Speaker 2: happened they want to beat you up.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: I ain't worried about that. I already worry about that.
Speaker 2: I don't care myself in that way. Oh Joe, they
Speaker 2: know I got a job to do. It ain't nothing personal.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Joe play on the field, going by
Speaker 2: my bit. No, No, it ain't ain't nothing that ain't
Speaker 2: no beating.
Speaker 5: Well, let me know, I'm enforcing if anybody listen throughout
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 1: We only in week five. Now, we got a long
Speaker 1: way to go.
Speaker 5: Now, anybody like feeling a little frog and they want
Speaker 5: to leap, I could be I could be enforced.
Speaker 2: Now, you gotta worry about James Harris. You take care
Speaker 2: of James Harrison saust Gardner, take care who James? Who's
Speaker 2: that debo? Yeah? Okay, Sauce. Gardner says, it's not Solid's
Speaker 2: fault on team struggles. It's the teams. If I'm being honest,
Speaker 2: we're doing it for him. Nah, Sauce, I think you
Speaker 2: might be. I think the defense might be. I think
Speaker 2: the other side. I don't know, but anyway. Gardner also
Speaker 2: said Solid change my life which is why we we
Speaker 2: we text the coach, I appreciate you every year on
Speaker 2: his birthday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean at that though, I like I like
Speaker 5: software for speaking out. But soft Wall understand quick. I
Speaker 5: think it's early for him. I think Sauce is only
Speaker 5: in his second year, right.
Speaker 3: Third, third.
Speaker 5: He'll understand the nature of this business. You know, it
Speaker 5: gets dirty, it gets grimy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: This is not the first coach that's going to leave,
Speaker 5: you know, while he's playing for a team. And he'll
Speaker 5: understand that. But Softings understand. The problem is on the
Speaker 5: other side of the ball. It is because if you
Speaker 5: look at the Jets defense statistically, in almost every category,
Speaker 5: they within the top five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still early. I know it's still early in the season.
Speaker 5: They are two and three, but the Jets defense is
Speaker 5: in the top five in almost every statistical category. The
Speaker 5: problem is the offense. And I know soft is the teammate.
Speaker 5: You don't want to see anything throw your teammate under
Speaker 5: the bus, But we are saying for you, your quarterback
Speaker 5: needs to play better.
Speaker 3: It's really simple. He just needs to play better.
Speaker 2: Because they every they said that the Jets are quarterback
Speaker 2: away from a serious threat in the AFC, being a contender.
Speaker 3: The quarterback hasn't played well.
Speaker 2: It's okay to acknowledge that and say, you know what,
Speaker 2: ben't played well or you know, hey, but we know that.
Speaker 2: It's not like we're breaking news. Oh Joe, we got
Speaker 2: a ticker. Our ticker just made his debut. So everybody's
Speaker 2: in the chat. Y'all can see the ticker strolling along
Speaker 2: down in the bottom. You know we we know, we
Speaker 2: hold on.
Speaker 1: Let maok at the chet, let me look at the chat. Threat.
Speaker 1: I don't see it.
Speaker 3: It's on the video. Joe.
Speaker 1: Oh look, oh boy, we got a tickle. Boy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a tickle.
Speaker 3: Yes we do.
Speaker 5: Oh Joe, oh but we oh we big time by yeah,
Speaker 5: big time.
Speaker 1: You got a ticker for saying, well, we gotta tick up.
Speaker 1: That's that's us.
Speaker 3: That's up.
Speaker 1: I see it everyon on that Green Bay one p m.
Speaker 1: East Tennessee. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: What we do? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: O Joe, you ain't you know we slowly be coming down.
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna take take a spine, but you
Speaker 2: know we gonna get it right. We're gonna make sure
Speaker 2: we're gonna have the best.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like that I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh oh Joe Russell Wilson is optimistic about
Speaker 2: potentially playing on Sunday for the first time during the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty fourth season. We're confidence that I be ready
Speaker 2: to play and ready to play at a high level.
Speaker 2: I think we're being really smart too, uh and trying
Speaker 2: to understand how it feels. It's my first week week
Speaker 2: really back with the guys, and I feel really confident
Speaker 2: about that. Mike Tomlin said earlier in the week that
Speaker 2: there are multiple variables. He's waved the decision throughout the
Speaker 2: week of practice. But the door is a jar, which
Speaker 2: means a jar o Joe, which means slightly open. Wilson
Speaker 2: to be active on Sunday. You know you always want
Speaker 2: me to lose and use the word in the sentence, Russ.
Speaker 2: I played a lot of fun. I played a lot
Speaker 2: of football games, and there have been a lot of moments.
Speaker 2: I don't fear them getting ready to go back and
Speaker 2: rock and roll.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it. I like Russ getting opportunity to play.
Speaker 5: I know justsin fieldy played has played somewhat good this year.
Speaker 5: They started three and oh they lost the last two
Speaker 5: but offensively, it's not like they've been this awesome juggernaut
Speaker 5: of an offense that's top three in the NFL putting
Speaker 5: up outstanding, crazy numbers where a change at the quarterback
Speaker 5: position would.
Speaker 1: Really affect the Steelers, Right.
Speaker 5: I like Russell Wilson my personal preference, even though I'm
Speaker 5: not a Steeler fan for that offense.
Speaker 1: Based on his resume, his last year in Denver was
Speaker 1: not that bad.
Speaker 5: Chat if you look at the statue, look at his
Speaker 5: numbers his last year and dinner, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was decent. Maybe not the rust
Speaker 1: that led to goddamn sey off to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: But if we can get a Russ of Old anywhere
Speaker 5: near the Russ of Old, when you don't turn the
Speaker 5: ball over and you just do what we ask of
Speaker 5: you and not put the ball in the hands of
Speaker 5: the other team, they will be just fine.
Speaker 1: They will be just fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be interested in the scene.
Speaker 1: Well, George Pickts had god damn ball.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, since you since you go there, speaking for
Speaker 2: the first time since Sunday Night lost to the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: George Pickens just misquestioned about his explicit message on his
Speaker 2: eye black.
Speaker 3: In the post game incident.
Speaker 2: With Georgian Llewid Pickens wore eye black that read open
Speaker 2: effing always for the game and after the game ended
Speaker 2: fell hook and latter attempt. Pickings janke down Lewis by
Speaker 2: his face mask as Lewis ran by him and appeared
Speaker 2: to say something. Pickens said he was unaware of the policy,
Speaker 2: never seen it before.
Speaker 3: He said, have you seen him before?
Speaker 2: Yes. When it was pointed out that Cameron Hayward had
Speaker 2: been fining twenty fifteen for writing on his late father's
Speaker 2: name when his eye black picking was dismissive years ago,
Speaker 2: he said, when I wasn't in the league so now
Speaker 2: And asked what happened with Lewis after the game, Pickings
Speaker 2: said nothing, Hey, it wasn't nothing.
Speaker 1: A little big there, you know.
Speaker 5: Louis uh went by at you know, talking little trend.
Speaker 5: He snatched him up real quick by the face mask.
Speaker 5: You know sometimes people, you know, like they like to
Speaker 5: step on your toe because they know you really can't
Speaker 5: do nothing.
Speaker 1: So I ain't do nothing, you know, too, too bad
Speaker 1: to him? Just man, stop playing with me.
Speaker 5: Man. But I you know I didn't know that either.
Speaker 5: You heard that the eye black thing.
Speaker 1: That I would do.
Speaker 5: But the curse word that I never knew that as
Speaker 5: much curses be going on out there by when we playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can, you can curse, but you can't just
Speaker 2: play it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, he spelled it all the way out or
Speaker 1: was it? I didn't get a chance to see it.
Speaker 3: Sometimes, well I have mercy. Sometimes I want to be kids.
Speaker 2: I'm like bro, y'all graduated high school and went to college. Yeah, Bro,
Speaker 2: you know, the NFL ain't letting you write nothing on
Speaker 2: no no eye black. They don't let you no thing,
Speaker 2: no nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh normally normally.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny now that you now that I think about it.
Speaker 5: How the hell if I did something or I was
Speaker 5: dressed my dress code was inappropriate?
Speaker 1: You know, the NFL officer would call down and tell me.
Speaker 5: Even in game, they would come to me on the sideline,
Speaker 5: tell me to change it. Remember the Remember the long
Speaker 5: stream of towels y'all used to wear college.
Speaker 1: I would wear stream of towel, not the NFL issue towel.
Speaker 1: I had a long towel. I cut. I cut the towel.
Speaker 2: You gotta be regulation, you got to be about this
Speaker 2: load that town NFL.
Speaker 1: Tow by that load went down to my knee.
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, whether you remember when I used to put
Speaker 5: on the black chint strap or the orangechin strap, it
Speaker 5: had to be white man, man, tell ojo man, take
Speaker 5: that off. So I'm surprised that you'd even let him
Speaker 5: play the whole game. But the damn I'm black.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh well, yeah, I think you're right. You're right.
Speaker 2: I think the thing iso is that when you look
Speaker 2: at it, is that you would think a person would
Speaker 2: be smart enough not to use an explicity to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that that I mean, come on, bro, I understand. I
Speaker 2: mean they find Cam for writing a message about his
Speaker 2: dad when his dad passed, So they find him, you
Speaker 2: think they're gonna let you write something explicit?
Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of us, speaking the fines.
Speaker 5: John Kittner when it was my quarterback in two thousand
Speaker 5: and three, No, maybe two thousand and two before it,
Speaker 5: Carson got there, Kidnap, super duper religious, super duper had
Speaker 5: on the hat in the media. All they had was
Speaker 5: a cross on the front. They find it. Oh, it's
Speaker 5: way back in two thousand and two. Hold on, if
Speaker 5: they found John Kidnap, not when you do it.
Speaker 2: Hold on, first of all, an any media that's the
Speaker 2: NFL event, it better be NFL approved. We're the one
Speaker 2: that got that, got that done away with because at
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl we wore products that wasn't so we
Speaker 2: was getting thinking about everybody had those hats. They paid,
Speaker 2: They paid our team lots and lots some money to
Speaker 2: wear key shirts, hats, so forth, and so on.
Speaker 3: And then a couple of years later Brian urlack I
Speaker 3: did that.
Speaker 2: They ended up finding air like like one hundred thousand,
Speaker 2: couple of hundred thousand dollars because he was yeah, he
Speaker 2: had something that wasn't NFL sanctioned. So anything that's NFL
Speaker 2: like you had you had a press conference, show you
Speaker 2: at you know, you in the locker room, that's.
Speaker 3: The NFL, that's the NFL church.
Speaker 2: I think it better have gatorade, It better have nie heat,
Speaker 2: It better have something that the NFL is getting some
Speaker 2: money out of, because if it's not, you better not
Speaker 2: put that on right, you better not put that on home.
Speaker 2: Now you can have a State Farm because State Farm
Speaker 2: is the official sponsor or something that's that's NFL has
Speaker 2: got a bucket, got a hand in. But I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the George Pickens didn't know. First of all,
Speaker 2: even if you didn't know, Bro, you think they're gonna
Speaker 2: let you. Oh, they finding guys for doing the Remember
Speaker 2: they made you cut out the throat slash they made Yeah,
Speaker 2: they made they made.
Speaker 3: You cut out bush y'all to do the six shooters.
Speaker 2: They made you cut out anything that that people might
Speaker 2: conscrew with being violent. And you thought, say, you know what,
Speaker 2: I ain't know. I couldn't write no explicive on my EyeBlack.
Speaker 5: Hey listen, and it might be an honest mistake knowing
Speaker 5: knowing George he paid them rules no mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Where you thinking what sporting event that you that you
Speaker 2: play your participant in that you could write an explicit
Speaker 2: explicit language on something and it's gonna be okay. You
Speaker 2: think you can write that on your on your wristband
Speaker 2: in the NBA? What about your bat and glove and baseball?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: I might be able to put some tape on my
Speaker 2: tennis racket. It says, if all, if all y'all really
Speaker 2: come on, O your die. You know you can't write
Speaker 2: nothing like that, And he gonna put ef.
Speaker 3: Hey, bro jus what they're just like giving away their money?
Speaker 1: But okay, king kid is different man.
Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott has only a mass fourteen touches over the
Speaker 2: past three weeks, eight fewer than Rico, Didyl Ddill, Dondell, Ricoddell,
Speaker 2: her Clarence Hill. Elliott is apparently dumbfounded by the lack
Speaker 2: of opportunity and its spoken to coaches regarding his role.
Speaker 2: Zeek his rush for a career at low three point
Speaker 2: three yards per carry ninety eight yards on thirty carries.
Speaker 2: He also has just six passes for thirty six yards. Donald,
Speaker 2: the team's number one running back at this junction, has
Speaker 2: been the most effective. He's rushed for two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty one yards on fifty four carries and called eleven
Speaker 2: passes four hundred and one. My only thing is, Zeek,
Speaker 2: what did they tell you upon your return?
Speaker 3: Did they tell you if.
Speaker 1: You're coming on a return, you should understand that your.
Speaker 5: Production it's going to be like it was when you
Speaker 5: first got there, and you're definitely not going to be
Speaker 5: the number one.
Speaker 1: Based on your return. You know that already. They don't
Speaker 1: have to tell you anything.
Speaker 5: I guess they do understand the business, understand how the
Speaker 5: game works. I can't think of too many running backs,
Speaker 5: especially at that position, that went from one team, went
Speaker 5: somewhere else and came back the expected to be the
Speaker 5: main guy, still expected to get the same amount of
Speaker 5: opportunities and carries, to be able to be productive. That's
Speaker 5: not the way it works. They go over the younger
Speaker 5: and fresher legs every time and put.
Speaker 1: You in sparingly.
Speaker 2: Do you remember what ze was doing when when last
Speaker 2: year in Dallas. There's a reason why they let him go.
Speaker 1: Hey he was hurt, he had that big as knee
Speaker 1: brace on.
Speaker 2: And guess we asked, and he's.
Speaker 3: Two years older.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, listen his last year and got damn New England.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that bad?
Speaker 3: Now, No, it wasn't bad when it come from touchdowns?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: What was what was these numbers in New England? I
Speaker 2: don't think he had four yards to carry? Oh joe,
Speaker 2: he might have as just looking it up right quick? Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I think he was good, Like I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 2: get you some tough yard is now thirty one the
Speaker 2: fourth and one?
Speaker 3: Yeah he can.
Speaker 1: He's falling forward, he falling in with everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and eighty four carries six hundred and
Speaker 2: forty two yards three point five yards of carry right
Speaker 2: now he's three point three. Yeah, so what what if
Speaker 2: I missing?
Speaker 3: O Joe?
Speaker 1: I need you, like I know, I know what he missing.
Speaker 1: He missing more opportunities to get that bitch from a
Speaker 1: goddamn three point five to a six.
Speaker 3: Oh yo.
Speaker 1: That's what he's missing.
Speaker 2: Opportunity to look at his numbers. They dipped every year.
Speaker 2: Yards have come down every year, O Jo. In that position,
Speaker 2: that's not a position that you dip every year and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you springboard back up.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just not how it works. At that position.
Speaker 2: He has more carries on that Look those legs, he
Speaker 2: has more hits on that body. Yeah, you're right, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. It's and it's okay. But like
Speaker 2: I said, I need to hear. I need to know
Speaker 2: what was promised to him. Okay, Zeke, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: the guy like you once were. You're gonna be our
Speaker 2: bel cow back. You're gonna be out first. You're gonna
Speaker 2: know you're gonna get the lions share of the snaps.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the lions share of the carrier.
Speaker 2: I need to know what was promised to him ojo,
Speaker 2: then I can better assess. But because I'm looking at
Speaker 2: it and I'm not, I'm this is what I thought
Speaker 2: he would be.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think the fact that I don't even
Speaker 1: think they promised anything.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 5: They ain't bringing you back and telling you what your
Speaker 5: role is gonna be. You're gonna you're coming back Urik.
Speaker 5: Don't have any leopards because you're not that guy right now.
Speaker 5: And you know you can't come in there and be
Speaker 5: like and en force the issue. A. I think I
Speaker 5: need more carriage. I need more opportunities.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I think the more opportunities he gets, the better they
Speaker 5: might be off with him. Offensively. The numbers wouldn't prove.
Speaker 5: I think that three point five will go from a
Speaker 5: three point five to a six if you get more opportunities.
Speaker 5: The less you give him the worst th numbers gonna look.
Speaker 3: But yo, he's not that anymore. Oo his yards per carries.
Speaker 5: Of coming yeah yeah yeah, I'm not I'm not saying
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he but he's not young Zeke.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he Ohio state Zeke.
Speaker 5: You know with the stomach, guy with the abs showing
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you know, I'm not saying it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know I mean he I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: he used to have abs. Now you got a pony
Speaker 2: cag Now he don't pay. You don't have that shirt
Speaker 2: rolled up no more do Yojo? Oh shoot, I mean Ojo.
Speaker 2: The yards per carry, the average, the total yards have
Speaker 2: come down every year.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, he's he's not what he once was.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times we're the last one to
Speaker 2: see what we've actually become, because we've been great in
Speaker 2: our oh Joe, in our eyes. Sometimes it's hard for
Speaker 2: you to see because you only see the reflection.
Speaker 1: Of what you used to be. That's it, that's it,
Speaker 1: going right there by, that's it, Joe. I ain't eve
Speaker 1: gonna write that down, But that's good Joe.
Speaker 3: What you used to be?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I used to boy, I was I used
Speaker 1: to be. I used to be that.
Speaker 3: How was that guy?
Speaker 2: O Joe?
Speaker 3: When I was younger.
Speaker 1: I'm reminiscing right now.
Speaker 2: I take a tie a swinging boot, o' choe. I
Speaker 2: was swinging and hanging the boot on the tree and
Speaker 2: swinging up. I'm fifteen yards away. I could pee in
Speaker 2: it now. I feel on my hand. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: oh y, keep it real with Yojo.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: I gotta keep a towe on the floor. I ain't
Speaker 2: hit it, and now I ain't hit the tory. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I keep a tower on the floor.
Speaker 3: I I just said, O Joe, you have to accept. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it's hard, it is Ojo. Sometimes it's hard because.
Speaker 5: Because right because right now you know how, you know
Speaker 5: how it be. I think I could do it. I
Speaker 5: think I could do every guy, even at even at
Speaker 5: fifty six.
Speaker 2: I go in the gym sometime and I put that
Speaker 2: weight on there. I was like, man, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do man, let me take this. Man, I ain't
Speaker 2: thirty five, man, let me.
Speaker 3: Take this off.
Speaker 1: I can't do it.
Speaker 3: Yes, Ben, I was doing them dumb bells. I had Jeordan.
Speaker 3: I say, Joe, I'm gonna get the dumb bell right here.
Speaker 2: Man. I hear like three, I said Jordan. Probably about
Speaker 2: a month, Jordan, I'd be about eight or ten of
Speaker 2: these sing right man, it's been two months. I walk
Speaker 2: by and look at him, say, man, not finna hurt myself.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I did that. I'm okay not doing it anymore. Now
Speaker 2: I'm a rep specialist. I used to put on that
Speaker 2: heavyweight on there and do two, three, four reps nine,
Speaker 2: ten to twelve, hit them ten to twelve, get on
Speaker 2: up out of there. Nothing something to stimulate the muscle.
Speaker 2: I stimulate. I don't annihilate. I annihilate the other things.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, Oh, Joe, but he
Speaker 2: that was you know certain the muscle.
Speaker 3: I stimulate, right the huh, I'm nihilated. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, don't you right? Damn you can Ojo.
Speaker 2: There is a viral video of Dak destroying his Texas
Speaker 2: mansion so he can build a new one. That's both
Speaker 2: today on how he doesn't appreciate the coverage around his
Speaker 2: home renovation project that drew national attention. We can't show
Speaker 2: that came with We can't show it on Joe because
Speaker 2: we don't want to get no copyright.
Speaker 5: So I'm sure I'm sure everybody else are. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: that definite to understand. You know, you're the quarterback of
Speaker 5: the Dallas County. Everything you do, someone is recording. If
Speaker 5: someone's recording anything that you're doing, it's going viral. But
Speaker 5: it's going viral.
Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna get You've got to understand
Speaker 1: what comes with the territory. Dack. You know that.
Speaker 5: You know that I can't wait to see it. Invite
Speaker 5: me over. I'll bring you a gift, nice little house
Speaker 5: woman gift.
Speaker 3: I think that you know what I think it isn't Joe.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is that when we normally we
Speaker 2: see people like that man they got so much money,
Speaker 2: they tell the house down they got Man, that's a
Speaker 2: million dollar home that they tear it down, the build
Speaker 2: on top of it, and so it kind of puts
Speaker 2: back like because you know what the first thing happened
Speaker 2: some Ojo.
Speaker 3: You go buy a car. Man, You know how many.
Speaker 2: People starving in the world and owe Joe biam two
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars car. So if I didn't buy the car,
Speaker 2: how many people in the world would be starving if
Speaker 2: I didn't buy this car.
Speaker 1: That's saying two hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: People always have ideals of what you should do with
Speaker 2: your money. Your money, Yeah, okay, I'm like, come on, people,
Speaker 2: just because somebody wants to get some enjoyment out of
Speaker 2: their lives and you're not in a position where you
Speaker 2: can financially, or go buy a car, or go take
Speaker 2: a vacation, or do X, Y and Z. That don't
Speaker 2: mean you should try to put pool on somebody else,
Speaker 2: because they can. And that's the first thing somebody give them.
Speaker 2: Somebody gave a million dollars, that's all.
Speaker 3: He gave a million more than you. You didn't give ten. Man,
Speaker 3: if I know, you wouldn't know you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Everybody always talking about if I'd have had this, this
Speaker 2: is what I would do.
Speaker 3: No, you don't.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't you know, they wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Of course not. But it's easy to say. It's easy
Speaker 2: to say what you would.
Speaker 1: Do when you don't got it where you.
Speaker 2: Where you don't have to be put to the test
Speaker 2: to show, Yeah, man, if I had that, man.
Speaker 3: I would do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: Bru.
Speaker 2: You can't come tas checking. It's gone before you even
Speaker 2: see it. So when you do get a little money,
Speaker 2: you're not doing what you say you're gonna do. That's
Speaker 2: what That's what it bothers me with people. I ain't
Speaker 2: got no problem with that. Dak says, I like the
Speaker 2: area that I live in. I like where I am.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna tear this down instead of
Speaker 2: going to try to pay you know what, another three
Speaker 2: four million dollars just for a plot of land. I
Speaker 2: could just tear this house down that was probably seven
Speaker 2: hundred thousand. I got a big enough plot of land.
Speaker 2: I'll build right on top of this.
Speaker 1: And listen what you got to understand to it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Is it not an expensive as we may think. We
Speaker 5: talk about Dallas, we talk about Houston.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 5: Will you understand how inexpensive? How much bang for your
Speaker 5: buck you get in Dallas.
Speaker 1: For a house?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh yo, you said how much.
Speaker 5: Bang for your buck you get for something hen Miami.
Speaker 5: Let's say a house on Start Island right now, man,
Speaker 5: please Start Island that costs twenty eight to thirty men.
Speaker 1: You can get something like that in Dallas a Houston
Speaker 1: for five?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Huge? I'm like, what man?
Speaker 3: What the oh yo? You know?
Speaker 2: Why don't bother me because what dak doing? Don't none
Speaker 2: of that come out of my pocket?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, and I'm sure you can.
Speaker 2: You could attested this when you were younger and didn't
Speaker 2: have no money, and you hurried what somebody paid for
Speaker 2: a car, or somebody paid for jeans or watch? You
Speaker 2: was like man, I would never do that, And when
Speaker 2: you got some money, you could guess what you were
Speaker 2: the guy that said you would never be man.
Speaker 3: Ain't nowhere.
Speaker 2: Hell, I played two hundred thousand car They gonna get
Speaker 2: me to point b yeh me a what that tale
Speaker 2: of time? Yep, that's exactly what I'm gonna do. I
Speaker 2: don't get I don't get mad at what people do
Speaker 2: with their money. I get mad if somebody squanders somebody
Speaker 2: else's money, right, that's what I get. Your money, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: whatever you do with the fifty eleven jobs do checks?
Speaker 2: If Ojo saying you know what, I'm gonna cash all
Speaker 2: these checks and I'm gonna burn this money, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: thank you a damn food.
Speaker 3: But that's Ojoe money.
Speaker 1: He made it right.
Speaker 2: I don't get mad at people for doing with their
Speaker 2: money or choose the lifestyle that they live.
Speaker 3: Ain't got nothing do with me. I ain't losing no sleep.
Speaker 3: I don't lose sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't sleep well anyway, But I don't lose sleep
Speaker 2: about anything because guess what, I ain't worried. I ain't
Speaker 2: trying to keep up with the Joneses, because see you
Speaker 2: trying to keep up with the Joneses. The Joners. The
Speaker 2: Joneses are sleeping good because they know how they're gonna
Speaker 2: pay for that. You donet get all this ish and
Speaker 2: you don't know how to pay for it, and you.
Speaker 3: Lord Mercy, I show hope this happened. I show hope
Speaker 3: that happened, Na.
Speaker 5: And you know, you know what's scary on two and
Speaker 5: when you think about it, especially in this economy or
Speaker 5: just in general, when there are people that are trying
Speaker 5: to keep up with the Joneses, that don't make the
Speaker 5: Joneses money or don't have the kind of revenue coming
Speaker 5: in like the jones and those individuals scare me because
Speaker 5: they will do anything anything to be able to keep
Speaker 5: up and maintain a lifestyle that they know they can't afford.
Speaker 1: Yes, that that that's that scares me.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, someone that is willing to.
Speaker 1: Do anything when it come to women.
Speaker 5: When it come to women, I mean, obviously, you know
Speaker 5: my situation is just and in general, women that want
Speaker 5: to look a certain way, knowing you don't make that
Speaker 5: kind of money, it's possible, there's only one way to
Speaker 5: get it, and you're willing to go to any link
Speaker 5: to make sure you maintain and be able to portray
Speaker 5: that lifestyle. How you look, that's scary, look because I forget.
Speaker 3: How you look. I got a couple of dollars on me.
Speaker 3: Hey he was swamp ain't No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that you're right. I'm with you.
Speaker 5: I'm with you when you're right. I'm just saying that
Speaker 5: type of stuff scared me. Yeah, for sure, just the
Speaker 5: just the thought of it. You go, you you do anything,
Speaker 5: you'll you'll cross me. Just be able to you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, are you right?
Speaker 1: I stay I stay from around that brother.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm That's how I am about you.
Speaker 2: I live within my means. I got what I got man,
Speaker 2: that's all you man. You don't win up man, if
Speaker 2: I I'm comfortable in this. Yeah, y'all want y'all want
Speaker 2: somebody to be dressed with three piece suit.
Speaker 3: Y'all want somebody to be l B down. Bro, I
Speaker 3: made the gas.
Speaker 5: Station LVY LVY, who l be down? You know, it's
Speaker 5: it's okay every blue moon, Yes, it's okay. You know,
Speaker 5: to treat yourself, it's okay. But every goddamn time you
Speaker 5: step up the house, you and you and you in
Speaker 5: high fashioned Hi, looking like the goddamn Mannigan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, Yeah, but it's a women like that
Speaker 2: old Joe. They can't go out the house unlets. They
Speaker 2: got a makeup, got everything to the nine. I like
Speaker 2: we going to a rest were going to a restaurant.
Speaker 2: Were the most expensive thing on the menu A forty
Speaker 2: five dollars?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And you got a dress like that? Yeah? Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Look what you what you're wearing? Oh, you're gonna get dressed.
Speaker 2: You looking at what I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: That's it?
Speaker 3: Tu up what.
Speaker 2: This is all I got for you? And the food
Speaker 2: gonna taste the same, right, the volume