1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: You guys loved her so much that we are bringing 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: her back. The tea is back to spill the tea. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Tory Spelling joins me again to break down Real Housewives 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. We've all heard of scandival, but do 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: we all really know how vander Pump Rules was born. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: We're taking it back to twenty thirteen when Lisa asks 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Brandy to meet with Sheena, the waitress from Sir who 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: admitted to having an affair with Brandy's ex husband. This 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: is the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season three, Episode eight, 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules. Let's get into it. First of all, 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: thank you for coming back. You are one of, if 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: not my favorite co host to do this with. And 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: now we have layers because one of my producers pointed 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: out to me that during this episode there's a cheating 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: conversation which we'll get into. And there's a current cheating 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: coversation in the Bravo sphere about the scandalval that Tom 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: and Raquel and who's the other person, Arianna? So you 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: know it and do you know the people? 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: I do not know them? Okay, I waited to be 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: And then once you go down the rabbit hole. You 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: can't stop. 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Oh you. I didn't even walk in. I just know 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: it's called scandal. I've see. I couldn't pick any of 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: them out of a lineup, except for probably the guy. 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: But I get that. I've read the book. It's it's 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: friends and a triangle and a cheating scandal. Not married, 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: no kids. So people were cheating that work at a bar. 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: That's on a reality show, O guys breaking news? 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: Well okay, so I wasn't into it, and then my 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: friend said what it was about and gave me the 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: short story, which was wrong. But this is how I 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 2: got on board. 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: It was two friends married and they and one slept 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: with the other one's wife and they were but there 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: was like a cheating scandal with both and I was like, 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: WHOA never heard of that? Like a double doozy. 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh you thought it was a foursome that crossed over, 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: because I've seen that too. 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought, which I was much more 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: invested in that. No, that's a nice one for that's 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: like a cross yeah, because these days CNN breaking news, 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: but it's it's at one step. 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: It's more it's a little more wise. 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're two best friends, but the other friend has nothing. 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: To do with it. 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: I just knew about it. 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: Got it, Get him out of here. We don't care. 49 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know. I don't know why it's 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: breaking news. I don't get I don't either. 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Because I also didn't think that Adam Levine cheating. I 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: felt like it's a supermodel and a rock star, beautiful 53 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: people cheating on each other. I was like, Okay, it's fine. 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: But when Armie Hammer is boiling people's bones for broth, 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: that's when I wake up. When Arnold Schwartzenegger is, you know, 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: having babies with his nanny, I get out of bed, like, 57 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm this is a scandal. I can invest the. 58 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: One that pushed you over the edge. That's yeah. 59 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, but people are invested, and that's 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: reality TV for you. Okay, and then we have we'll. 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: Get into I think that I do think that the 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: Brandy Eddie Chibrian and Leon Rhyme's and she's and and 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: that he was cheating when when Brandy was pregnant. 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: That's that's more deep. That one. That's a big one. 65 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: That's a big one. Like and I do have sympathy 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: for her, and I did have sympathy and empathy for 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: her in this episode, because that's a big one. So okay, 68 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: so let's get into this crazy uh group. Now, Faye, 69 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: you must know. I've met Faye and I like her. 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: I think she's cool. I've met Fay. I don't know 71 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: her well, but I've met her. And what's funny is 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: that it's a it's a cautionary tale. It's a cautionary 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: tale and an example of someone who by being associated 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: with the OJ trial and testifying and then posing for Playboy, 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: it did leave an indelible mark. And the truth is, 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: so many other people like Kim Kardashian has an entire 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: career from being in a sex tape, and somehow Fae 78 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: being in Playboy after this OJ thing left the bad 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: taste understandably in people's mouths. It's weird. It's sort of 80 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: like a calling card and her identity when I almost 81 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: can't separate it from who she is, her persona, and 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: then I hear her talk and I've met her and 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: she's really smart and I like her and she's funny 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: because I remember her being funny, and so it's an 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: interesting thing about a person whose reputation precedes them, which 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: happened at that dinner at crazy dinner party with Camille. 87 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: I've always wondered why she wasn't asked to be on 88 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: the Housewives. 89 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: I wondered at this episode too, like she's she's and 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: she was in an interview chair. Yes, and I would 91 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: not imagine that scandal, would I mean, maybe back then 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: they didn't want that scandal. But now lol, Like I wonder, 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: I got to ask that, que hold on, I got 94 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: a text Andy Cohen right now and ask him why 95 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: is he really? 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, let me just text him because it's Marissa. 97 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: The character of Marissa, she. 98 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: Reminded me of Stephanie Ruhl, who's like a MSNBC reporter. 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: This one reminded me of like a daytime talk show. 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: Ho's not a housewife? 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: No, but I felt like she was in enough scenes 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: that perhaps they were like testing it. 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh totally, Oh no there, yeah, one hundred you're one 104 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: hundred percent there. That happens right right. I also don't 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: understand why you're not a house wife. Someone to ask 106 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: him that next too, But. 107 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: And I promises, promises, you told me that last time. 108 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: I probably did, but I probably didn't ask him. 109 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonnaskhim, Like, how is Brandy Glanville, like not even doesn't. 110 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I get why she's on it. She's great, 111 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: I does originally not a housewife in Beverly Hill, doesn't 112 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: live in Beverly Hills, not even married to an actor, 113 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: divorce from an actor who's now married to a saint. 114 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Like yeah, but I thought Fae, like that's a good one. 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 1: And she's spicy and she's not afraid to get dirty, 116 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: and you could tell she wants the job. And the 117 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: other woman is an example to me of a woman 118 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: who make the mistake of wanting to seem like bigger 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: than that game, Like what are these people doing? It's 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: so crazy? Get into the fucking crazier, get out? 121 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 2: She felt like an Eden sas soon. 122 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Right, yes, like later like yeah, you're just what you're 123 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: like looking, you know, quizzically, like you just were. 124 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: You were dropped from a helicopter into this group. You 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: don't know why, yes, right, So. 126 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Paul, it's an example. It reminded me back of Simon 127 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: and Mario, like fighting with the female housewives, like Simon 128 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: fought with Jill. Mario like it's just a bad look 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: like like Paul and his wife are fighting with Brandy. 130 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: It's just like the men need to get out, like 131 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: right that that visual is not good for me. 132 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and next week Mauricio does it. It's it is, Yeah, 133 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. They should stay back. 134 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: You have to. I just can't imagine. Yeah, no, I'm saying, 135 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: you're right, you have to. You have to stay back, 136 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: Like it's not they're not. It's not necessarily for men 137 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: to get involved. It's happened on Orange County too with 138 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: a Shannon Badour's husband got into it with Vicky like 139 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: in the face, like it's just it's a very bad 140 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: look for a man to be to be like fighting 141 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: with a woman. 142 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: No, I agree with you, but I feel like Paul 143 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: from the beginning was getting to have his own show, 144 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: which he got his own show eventually, but I felt 145 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: like he wanted to be wanted screen time, so he 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: didn't care if it was right or not right to 147 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: get into the middle of the girls. 148 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: Because there are certain ones that sit back and they're like, 149 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing this for her, I'm just doing this, And 150 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: oddly I think Joe Giudice was one of those. He 151 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: was like rolling his eyes in the back and then 152 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: later they had to do it for the money. And 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: he's there, but he doesn't want to be there, And 154 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I respect someone who doesn't want to be as a man. 155 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: Please, Paul would never even be He wouldn't even put 156 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: his toe on it. 157 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: So I respect that in a man like, not someone 158 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: who's like, you know, like Joe gorg is funny, but 159 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: he's a house he's his housewife and so a Simon right, agreed. 160 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel like that was Paul's whole thing. 161 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Good point. I like that, that's true. He wanted to 162 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: be in the spotlight. Okay. Yeah, it's a turn off 163 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: the men that want to sit in the chair and 164 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: be the house husbands. It's like a real turn off. 165 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: It seems like Teresa's new guy wants to house husband too. 166 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Not unpredictable, but right, Okay. 167 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: So. 168 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: You've met Lisavannah Promb but I bet you know her right, yes, 169 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: very well, you know very well, very well. 170 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: I don't even know why I just said that, but 171 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: like very familiar, very familiar, like very very very very acquaintance. 172 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Yes, right, okay. 173 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: And I've gone out to dinner with her, I've yes, 174 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm above beat the Hollywood, like meet and greet, like 175 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: nod your head in another celebrity more than. 176 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like it went from the bullshit double kiss 177 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: to like you might do a kiss in a hug, 178 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: like you know her first Okay, I got it. 179 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: I slap her butt. Yeah yeah, and so and you 180 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: know Brandy too, I bet I do know Brandy. I 181 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: do know more or same amount. I knew Brandy back 182 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: in the day when she was married to Eddie, where 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: they seemed happy years and years ago. I also grew 184 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: up with Eddie Cibrian. Oh, my best friend dated him 185 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: in high school and then yeah, we actually went on 186 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: a date with him once. 187 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Wait, okay, so we have a couple of things to unpack. 188 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: So Eddie and you knew Eddie from high he went 189 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: to your high school. He just dated your friend and he. 190 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: Dated my friend in high school, Okay, dated losely. 191 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Was he like hot? Was he like a real hot hot? 192 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: He was hot, very hot? Okay? Yeah? And was he 193 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: into acting? Did you guys think he was going to 194 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: be an actor? 195 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: I think so, Like yeah, I think he was always 196 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: gunning to do that. 197 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 198 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: And then years later caught up at a nightclub and 199 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: he was flirting with me, and I said to my friend, 200 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: do I go on a date with him? That's weird, 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: like you were with him in high school. And she 202 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I don't care, Please go with him, 203 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: go out with him. I might not have to say this. 204 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: I think he's a very nice guy. I'm sure, but 205 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: this is what young people think, right right. So we 206 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: went on a date. It was like this place in 207 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: Hollywood at the time, Drace, do you wem Dre's Yes. 208 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: I loved Dresa and Losianaa. Yes. 209 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: So he was going to take me there, and you know, 210 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: all my friends were like. 211 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. That's that was my dating era. Yeah, 212 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: that was good. That was a good day place. It's nice. Okay. 213 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: So he took me out during the week, prime time. 214 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: It was like a Thursday night, like everyone was there 215 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: and we sit down. Oh there was paparazzi. Oh no, 216 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: you were in high school. No, this is later, I said, 217 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: in my twenties. 218 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: You were somebody you were you had been on nine ohtome. 219 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: It was I was on nine oh two one zero. 220 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,359 Speaker 1: Oh, so there was paparazzi. 221 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: There's never a picture of us though. 222 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, God, I don't know, but got it. 223 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: We go to sit down and I'm looking at the 224 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: menu nervous, and then he says, I'm not really hungry. 225 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: You're not hungry, are you? Yes? So I was like, 226 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: what do you say to that a young girl, this 227 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: hot young actor guy. And I was like okay, sure, 228 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: and he's like, let's just get drinks. And I was like, okay, 229 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: of course, hadn't eaten, was so nervous, didn't order food, 230 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: just ordered me drinks. I ended up getting wasted. Now 231 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: so wasted that I went to go to the bathroom 232 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: and walked into the kitchen by mistake and grew up 233 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: in the back of the kitchen at Dre's. 234 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Holy shit, Wait a second, why did Drese allow you 235 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: guys to sit at an actual table without eating? 236 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. Good question. 237 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: May because you were famous, because you were famous one 238 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: hundred percent, Like they wouldn't allow like frivetime Thursday could 239 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: to have at least an appetite. 240 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: No, you're right, Long story short, grew up in the back. 241 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: I mean took me home. I think he did kiss me, 242 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I hope I don't have 243 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: puke breadth. We weren't a match which was fine. And 244 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: then he did text me the night or there wasn't 245 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: even texting, was there texting them to ask if I 246 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: could get them an audition in one of my dad's shows. 247 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: So he just wanted to go out with me. 248 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: That was gonna be. That was a question I had earlier, 249 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: was if he if he ran through those shows, well 250 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: that's that's painful, and that that just put. 251 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: About taste in my mouth. But super seemingly nice guy. 252 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: I have nothing against him aside from that. And we 253 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: didn't hit it off anyway. But when I met him 254 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: with Brandy years later, they were married, and she was 255 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: very nice and he seemed great. They seemed happy, and 256 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: then cut two years later the whole cheating scandal, and 257 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: I saw Brandy again after Eddie and Leanne have been married, 258 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: and she was not nice to me. But she's now 259 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: friends with my husband's ex, so a lot I just 260 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: I just like dropped a lot on you. 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like, I like your your husband's ex 262 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: and she are friends, so that makes it even weirder. 263 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: Now, so my husband and I, which is why you 264 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: should be a housewife, right, So we met while we 265 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: were both married. This is your secret and Apparently when 266 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: he got a divorced from his ex, she reached out 267 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: to Andy Glanville and said, oh, Eddie's with LeeAnne. We 268 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: have a similar story. We should be friends, and they 269 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: became friends. Actually she was on Brandy's podcast. 270 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: It feels like Lisa and Brandy. That's why I asked 271 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: if you knew them both, but the answer was well 272 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: worth the weight in gold. Feels like Lisa and Brandy's 273 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: a made up for this isn't this Ladies and Gentlemen? 274 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Is the made for TV relationship? Like Kelly ben Simone 275 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: who used to go to fashion shows and wouldn't you know, 276 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: speak to people that were not Somebody was not going 277 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: to be friends with Jill Zarin unless she went on 278 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of New York City. It's just that's 279 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: just not who her friend group is or was. So 280 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Lisa vander Pomp and 281 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: Brandy Glanville, like this is called grab somebody have an ally. 282 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: We would never be friends in LA were it not 283 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: for the show. 284 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: Percent like ridiculous, But I don't really see any of 285 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,359 Speaker 2: them being friends with Brandy to be honest. 286 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: No, and they didn't feel they felt the same way 287 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: when she was on, because this is the way that 288 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: like Ramona felt about Alex and Simon, she felt that 289 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: they weren't at the level and they lived in Brooklyn. 290 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: It's like Beverly Hills is very very Beverly Hills. 291 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: It's good casting. Though she's great. 292 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: There are highs and lows, like she's crying in the 293 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: driveway and wants to leave the dinner party and it's 294 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: like very emotional, and then she's super calm in you know, 295 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: the meeting with Sheena. But I love seeing that crossover. 296 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: That's very very cool. And at that time, did vander 297 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: Pump Rules exist? 298 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: No? Right, So that night this aired, vander Pump Rules 299 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: the premiere came on right afterwards. 300 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Holy, I mean, Tory spelling, You're come on, well, how 301 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: the hell would you freaking know that? How do you 302 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: know that? 303 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Because I watched it. I'm such a huge fan, you 304 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: have no Look, I'm. 305 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Glad, but that's a memory. That's it's a memory. I 306 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: was on the goddamn thing. I don't know what you're 307 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: talking about. I literally and that tracks that makes sense. Okay, wait, okay, 308 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: So that's Sena and she's a main, major, major character 309 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: on vander pomp rules right, right. 310 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: So obviously this is news. It was on I mean, 311 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: Sheena says that she was well, Brandy says, you were 312 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: on Access Hollywood crying that Eddie left you for Leanne. 313 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: But he left me I was pregnant. So obviously this 314 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: is public knowledge. Brandy's on the show. They're about to 315 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: start another show. Obviously they would bring Sheena on to 316 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: start working at sir to make it seem real. 317 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh you you don't think it was already. 318 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: It can't be a coincidence that she was just like, wait, 319 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: who is that working here at sir? Lisa vander Pump 320 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: my best friend. 321 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: It's so funny. Lisa Vanderpump is so dramatic. So Adrian 322 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: and Brandy have a problem, and Lisa says something's some 323 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: things aren't easily fixed. Like she delivers these Joan Collins 324 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: lines that are so dramatic, and it just reminds me 325 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: of the acting that is this medium. Uh she is 326 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Alex Carrington, right, she's so yes. So so another like 327 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: token scene that always happens on Housewives and started back 328 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: then was like, oh, let's do a scene with a medium. 329 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: Let's do a scene with your psychic. It's like crazy 330 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: mediums on the show. The last time we had we 331 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: had that medium at the dinner, the Crazy Dinner with 332 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: Kyle right at Camille's aus. And now we have this 333 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: medium and it's very awkward. And this is what we 334 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: call folks, somebody who reached out to the show or 335 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: to the person to give them a free reading because 336 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: they want to be on the show. And that's like 337 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: sort of what this performance was about. 338 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so this Sorry, I'm going to go 339 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: back to the beginning. So I watched this episode with 340 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: my daughter the other night and she comes on the 341 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: share fairly early. Sorry, she's fourteen, right, okay fourteen? And 342 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: I watch it and she goes, wait, there's a psychic 343 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: on Wait is this a joke? Like did they know 344 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: about your eye and about you thinking there's like something 345 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: curse on us? And I was like, no, they have 346 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: no idea. So that's why I was like, these things 347 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 2: keep happening to us. And I was like, and we 348 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: keep joking, we need a medium, We need a psychic 349 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: to come in and clear our space. Boom, another psychic 350 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: is delivered. Not shocking, it's Real Housewives. 351 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: But that's hilarious. Yes, it's Real Housewives, so there's always 352 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: a shocking shocking medium And you know it's funny because 353 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Taylor is now on OC. I think I saw something 354 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: on Instagram last night with like a trailer and I 355 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: saw Taylor on it. Yeah, so we're saying I should 356 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: move to the OC then, so then you got to 357 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: move to the OC actually to tailor. But she was 358 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: always an on you. 359 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 2: I didn't connect with her as a quote unquote character, 360 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Like I didn't connect on her. 361 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I will over here. I just there was no 362 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: there there besides the story surrounding her, Like the details 363 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: of what we're about to talk about regarding her were 364 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: interesting to me, and the situation obviously, But she herself 365 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: never seemed like a good fit as a housewife. It's 366 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: the circumstances around her that fit. So that's where I 367 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: come from, which. 368 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: Is sadly probably why she lasted longer on the show 369 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: than she would have. 370 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. So this is a situation. So she 371 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: has a lawyer, she later married that lawyer, and now 372 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I guess she lives in Orange County and she's on 373 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: Orange County. So in this situation, I guess there was 374 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: a quote unquote friend that she did business with that 375 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: wanted to get paid. I guess from the estate. Now, 376 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as show friends. It's show business. 377 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: So she did business with this person. I don't know 378 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: any details about the business, but she owes them the money, 379 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, and if they see that she's wearing a 380 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: ten carrot diamond ring and has arimez bags. I don't 381 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: know the details of the situation, but she attached such 382 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: emotional meeting to this ring and bags where I would 383 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: have been excited that I let me go in the 384 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: other room and get a bag to pay you, Like, 385 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: that's a great situation. Everybody wants cash. Cash is king, 386 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: so getting paid in a watch or a bag, it's like, 387 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: take the fucking deal. Why are you complaining? 388 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: But you're engagemently. I guess I felt bad that Why 389 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: didn't they just ask her for the money? And if 390 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: she chose to cash it in and give them the 391 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: money from the ring, that's her choice. Why specifically of 392 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: the ring do they do that. 393 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: I think we've gotten to the point where you don't 394 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: have the No, they go after your assets when you 395 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: don't have the money. So she doesn't have the money, 396 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: So they go after the assets, and it was someone 397 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: that she knew, so she feels that that was heartless. 398 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I think they were probably thinking, okay, well, if she 399 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: can't pay us, she'll pay us in you know, something 400 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: that she has. But I just feel that it's a 401 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: material item. I don't know. I just felt. I don't 402 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: know what I felt. I felt. And some of our 403 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: bags were found out to be fake. Would you be curious? 404 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Would you want to meet the mistress? I know you're 405 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna have some story in your bag of trips, in 406 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: your bag of tricks that connects to this. I just 407 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: know you do. 408 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Well. Okay, here is another question. When they approach Brandy 409 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: to do this. If if she were smart, I would 410 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: have been like, Okay, I'll do this because this is 411 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: huge for you. I will do this, but I want 412 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: like a development deal for my own show or something 413 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: like it. 414 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Something or I thought you were going to say, give 415 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: me a part on Band of farmp Rules. Oh, that 416 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: would have been smarter, right, some den mother like under 417 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Lisa or something, because she would have been good at that. 418 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: She'd be working at a bar right now and still 419 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: be good at it. 420 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: Well. I hope she got something is that a thing 421 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: or you just had to do what they tell you 422 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: to do and just hope you're on that's that. 423 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Level with no leverage, you kind of have to. But 424 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: she definitely could have gotten something, and that's a great 425 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: I like where your head is at. She definitely I 426 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: didn't think of that either. Tori Spelling, the genius Real 427 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: Housewives analyzer always. 428 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: Comes up with something that would be proud. 429 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually would. You're very analytical, you are. You 430 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: back it up with facts and examples and ideas, solutions 431 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: that would have been smart and you and they would 432 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: have done it. They would have had another scene where 433 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: she walks in the bar after the conversation didn't satisfy her, 434 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, that's so yeah, And she could 435 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: have gotten paid for that too. 436 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: I have done a scene like that. When I had 437 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: my reality show True Tory, which was about my husband's 438 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: infidelity and getting back together and all that. I did 439 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: have a scene where I went to lunch and talked 440 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: to his ex wife, who initiated that. My producers wait, 441 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 2: what do you mean, Oh yeah, no, They were like, 442 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: have you ever met with her? 443 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: So it's a similar Okay, I said. 444 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: I talked to her once before you know, he and 445 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: I even got married, and it was regarding his son 446 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: so we could co parent all of us. And they said, well, 447 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: now that he has, you know, been with someone else, 448 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: do you feel like you would want to have a 449 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 2: conversation with her because you guys are on the same 450 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: men now for once. And I was like, I was 451 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: scared to do it, didn't want to do it, but 452 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, this will be cathartic. 453 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: And was it? No, Okay, you made it major. It 454 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: brought things up and you didn't need them, You didn't 455 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: need them to be out right. What was it like 456 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: experiencing infidelity? Was the fact that it was public? Much worse? 457 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: And was it was? It was the feeling hurt or 458 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: embarrassment or both? And which was first? Good question? It was. 459 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: Obviously I didn't want it to be public, so we 460 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: would have dealt with things privately. When I was told 461 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: that the SENA on this end, I guess the woman 462 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 2: he was, you know, was with, was going public, had 463 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: sold her story, put her name to the story, not 464 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: even off record, and it was going wide. It was 465 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: kind of like, well, once it was out there, I 466 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: wanted my narrative to be out there, which was embarrassment. 467 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: It was I remember before the story broke on a Monday. 468 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: Christmas was on a Wednesday, and I just remember hearing 469 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: at the end of the week before it was going 470 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: to come out, and I was like to my publicist, 471 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: can you just beg them to wait till after Christmas? 472 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Like I have young kids at the time, I had 473 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: four kids. My oldest was about just sick because I 474 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: think my youngest was like fourteen months. 475 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: What makes someone stay? Because I've spoken to Hillary Clinton, 476 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: and you know, with speaking and reading between the lines 477 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: without getting directly into it, it felt like everything that 478 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: we've heard about Bill Clinton doesn't define a fifty year 479 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: marriage or however long they've been married, Like there's a 480 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: lot that goes on besides whatever is you know, Like, yeah, 481 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: like the things that we hear about do not define, 482 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, decades long marriage. So what was the reason? 483 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: Did you know you were going to stay? And then 484 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: that was the embarrassing part because it's like, you know, 485 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: how you tell your friends something that they know and 486 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: then you go back and then you feel embarrassed because 487 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: you talk. So what was like the whole circular thing 488 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: you knew you were going to stay, or you hadn't 489 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: worked it through yet, like, because if you were leaving, 490 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: you would have felt like vindicated that everybody knew why, 491 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and obviously it wasn't your friend. 492 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 2: So there was definitely that camp of people that were like, 493 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's empowering to leave, Like there's two mindsets, right, 494 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: And it's like, I didn't care about any of that. 495 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: I think in my heart, I was in love with him, 496 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: we had four young children. I didn't honestly, I don't 497 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: think I thought for a second about leaving. And I 498 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: was shamed after that for people being like, you know, 499 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: why would you stay? How could you? It was more 500 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: the shame was on me, I think, more than what 501 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: he did. It was more like I can't believe she stayed. 502 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: And it's like, interesting, So you just said, that's amazing. 503 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: By the way, your parents were married for how many 504 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: years before your dad passed? Uh, we're gonna be married 505 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: seventeen years in a couple of weeks. 506 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: No, but your parents, Oh. 507 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: My parents were married twenty eight years. I think. 508 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So I think it's amazing that you said I 509 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: never even thought of leaving. 510 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: That's the truth. I probably this is the first time 511 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: I've admitted, I'm sure I was embarrassed to tell people like, 512 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: of course I've thought about what it would be like 513 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: to leave and everything, And it's like. 514 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: But you is it because we took vows? Is it 515 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: because you so desperately love him? Is it because one 516 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: or multiple affairs don't define a whole marriage because of 517 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: the kids? Like? What was the reason that you said 518 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: the sentence I've never even thought about leaving because I 519 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: can't think of a relationship. I haven't thought about leaving, 520 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: and I haven't been really cheated on like that publicly. 521 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: In love with him, and we had four young kids 522 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: and I didn't want to put them through that. 523 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: So what leverage do you have in someone changing if 524 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 1: they kind of know that you would never leave so 525 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: they could get away with it and do it? Like what? 526 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: Or is it like you did your husband feel humanly 527 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: bad that he hurt you or bad about himself or 528 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: whatever his reasons were, Like what what would be a 529 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: reason that a man you could get a man to 530 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: not do it again if you're not if they don't 531 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: think you're willing to walk. I'm just curious because I'm 532 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: thinking of like business deals, someone has to be willing 533 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: to walk to make a chane into the deal or whatever. 534 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: So it's a matter of the heart, right. 535 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't tell him I'm not going to leave. 536 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: There were some mental health issues at the time that 537 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 2: he was dealing with that then made me feel like 538 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: I was in a place that I couldn't even bring 539 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: up the fact leaving because I need to take care 540 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: of his well being. Okay, So that's kind of put 541 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: things on hold, rightly or wrongly. 542 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: No, I think different people have different reasons for infidelity. 543 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: It's not so black and white, right exactly. 544 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I do remember the day I found out 545 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: knowing that it was going to be public going to school. 546 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: It was our kids like Christmas like Winter Show, and 547 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: all the parents were there, and I remember thinking, oh 548 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: my gosh, they know who we are, and they think 549 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: we're this perfect family, right, that's what you know they 550 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: think in the press. They don't know us personally. We 551 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: had just started this school, and I was like, wow, 552 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: next week, like when we come back from Christmas break, 553 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: they're all going to know. And it was was that 554 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: state of embarrassment like. 555 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: That's and and because you watch move we watch movies 556 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: about this, like shows about this and see however went. 557 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: Did you feel that people were like staring differently? Did 558 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: you feel that it was a big shift, really huge 559 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: and people. 560 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: Wow, I made a lot of friends real fast on 561 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: the schoolyard. Everyone wanted to be like, I'm here for you, 562 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: do want to go have coffee? 563 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? 564 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: A lot of people interesting on that bandwagon. I yeah, 565 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: that's fascinating. Yeah, that's interesting. 566 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: Uh and also relatable. I'm sure a lot of people 567 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: will have experienced it, and you know, misery loves company. 568 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: It's making them feel better that you're going through something. 569 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: So that's very interesting. Okay, so that'll be That gives 570 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: me some perspective on Brandy and all that talking about 571 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: relationships Adrian and her husband. It's like, I see this 572 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: a lot people going on reality television right before they're 573 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: about to break up. It was Kelsey we talked about, 574 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: and Camille. I talked to you about Jules and her 575 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: husband Michael that were on New York Like it's a 576 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: little cringe and these two it's just you can't imagine 577 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: how people could speak that way to each other on camera, 578 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: but you kind of can because it just happens. The 579 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: game moves really quickly, so they just can't stand each other, 580 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: and it's like past bickering. 581 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: The bickering was cute for a while, but this is, Yeah, 582 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: I feel like one of them, and I feel like 583 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: it was Paul was like, I want this skincare scene 584 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: in there. 585 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Oh well that was definitely a scene, one hundred percent, 586 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: But I feel it was hard too. But I feel 587 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: and we don't know who's who in the marriage and 588 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: who did what wrong or right or neither. She really 589 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: can't stand him, like he's trying. She literally is nauseated 590 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: by him. Right, That's what it seems like to me. 591 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: She married this guy and she does not respect him. 592 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: But they were okay. I used to live in the 593 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: same apartment building as them. 594 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: Oh right. It doesn't feel like they're okay. It feels 595 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: like they're okay. No, they're like not okay right now. 596 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Even last time we watched the show. She seems like 597 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: he's a big baby for hitting his head like the 598 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: kid punted them in the note, Like she's just not 599 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: tolerating anything from him. 600 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: To me, you feel like it's a lack of respect. 601 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: I do, because she's the moneyed spouse at that point, 602 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: like she's the moneyed spouse, and I get it. And 603 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: she put him on the show, and he's all excited 604 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: about it, and that's probably turning her off, right, he's 605 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: a doctor and he's excited about the and she's probably 606 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: annoyed in our other lives about the fact that he's 607 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: like at this big show. She's probably over it now, 608 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: but it was probably annoying. I once there's somebody in 609 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: this mix, yeah, who I know people in this mix 610 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: and their husbands start to get the show in the 611 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: light and they really don't want that. And I understand 612 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: that it's annoying to bring someone in as your plus 613 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: one and have them jump in front of you and 614 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: and you're turned off. You're like, because then you don't 615 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: trust them. And it happens with other housewives. I've seen 616 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: it firstthand and it's crazy when the husband really wants 617 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: it and the husband doesn't want them to have it, 618 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: and the husband will go around the wife to get it. 619 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Has there been a case where the 620 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: husband has then went on to become star. 621 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: There has there's been a case. There have been cases 622 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: where the husband's gotten his shine, and I'm sure the 623 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: wife just has to like accept it or get over it. 624 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: But initially it was a big pill to swallow, So 625 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: I'll leave that one there. Okay, okay, yeah, so uh so, 626 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: oh Camille and Brandy meat that Camille's house scene, token 627 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: scene to bond over. 628 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: I mean, to people, I want to see in the 629 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: scene together. 630 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: That's so interesting, so true, it's like a filler scene 631 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: about that topic. But how could you not put them 632 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: in a scene together when they're both actresses where the 633 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: husband cheated. No, they're sorry, they're both married to actors 634 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: who cheated on us. 635 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: Then they should have done better in the scene. 636 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: Then they should have done better, and they like it could. 637 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: Have You're right, it could have been a great scene. 638 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: It just wasn't. It should have never been included. 639 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: They should have scrapped and all makes some sense like 640 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: it just it's like, okay, but you're right, I remember 641 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: very little that scene. Here's what that scene was producers 642 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: convincing Camille to convince Brandy to meet the girl because 643 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: Brandy really doesn't want it. So that's saying we want 644 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: you to meet with her, and Camille is going to 645 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: convince her by saying like some bullshit, like it's either 646 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: giving you closure or whatever she said. 647 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: Right, in a scripted show, you just don't do that. 648 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: You don't put two co stars basically in a scene 649 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: without one of the leads and give them they need 650 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: to convey to the audience. 651 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: I love you right right now? You have two Yeah, 652 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: you don't have the A list. You don't have the 653 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: A players you need, like Lisa vander Pump and Kyle 654 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: in that scene talking to her or something. Yeah, you 655 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: don't have a you don't have a players. You're right, 656 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: You're right. She's right, ladies and gentlemen, and I like 657 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: the scripted analogy. God toys spelling makes me so happy. Okay, 658 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: let's let's just put a pin in this because we 659 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: have to do a part two. This is our first 660 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: ever Part two of Rewives. It's too good. It's too meaty. 661 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: The tea is still brewing and we haven't even been 662 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: able to spill it all. It's too good. This is 663 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: a rewives to be continued. 664 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: I can't believe it.