1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, From Strength to Liability, 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the story of the twenty twenty one Cardinals defensive facts. Injuries, 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Yes played a large role in that story. We look 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: back about the cornerback and safety positions, but first the 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl our thoughts, plus how the home team's representatives perform. 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode five thirty four, and it 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolou 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Visit Easy Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts, Going for Hopkins 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: one Hand and Catch in a Touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki Fulldess Loosierberg Gang. I did 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: not watch the Pro Bowl as it happened. I was 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: getting some stuff done around the house and then MG 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I picked up my phone and saw that Kyler Murray 16 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: was trending and immediately negative reaction. I was like, really, 17 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: what's going on? And then I find out, Hey, he 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: threw an interception and it was returned for a touchdown. Now, 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: I did go back and watch the entire game, but 20 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: for me, it's not appointment viewing at one pm on Sunday. 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I did want to watch. I did want to see 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: how five Cardinals players performed in that ball game. But 23 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: I did find it interesting that literally five minutes into 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: the ball game, all of a sudden, Hey, Kyler Murray, 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: same as usual. I was like, really, people, I mean, 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: it's an exhibition game. Darius Leonard forty five yard touchdown. Now, 27 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: he probably could have been tackled, but it was two 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: hand touch least into the last five minutes of the game. 29 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: By the way, Darius Leonard missed that game in the 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: regular season against the Cardinals on Christmas. Dan, here he comes, 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: and it's Leonard get with the interception. So I did 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: find that interest. Yeah, I thought the same thing. And again, 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: the winners get eighty thousand, the losers get forty thousand, 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: and usually gets a little competitive, you know, that last 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: four or five minutes. But man, I'm glad all those 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: guys had a good time. I did enjoy the skills competition, 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, kind of some different things. You know, use 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: obviously they're protecting the players but guys making crazy catches. 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, Russell Wilson, I think he had twenty nine 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: points when it came to distorted these targets, and poor 41 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: mac Jones only had three or four. He was close. 42 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: But it was nice to see guys have some personality. 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Mac Jones definitely has personality. I like the way he interacts. 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: You could tell he's well liked. And then just seeing 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: you know, the Diggs brothers and you know, justin Jefferson. 46 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: The Steelers had some players in there. Obviously Max Crosby 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: a great story there. I just I like to see 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: all the smiling and when you get down the field, 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: obviously you're competing, but to see DJ Humphrey's playing right tackle. 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: There was two seventy four jerseys the line. Again guys 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: are going to wear their jerseys. And then looking at 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones dropping into coverage, um, literally running down to 53 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: the end zone and then Kyler, I mean he looked 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: like he had a good time. All we can see 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: he was smiling. Um. You know, he obviously got a 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: chance to talk to Danny Sereki, which we'll get into. Um, 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it's nice to see some other guys. 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: You know, we know Mark Mark Andrews, one of the 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: best tight ends of football, probably doesn't get the credit 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: after Kelsey and um Gronkowski and then you're throwing George Kittle. 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: But you know, you see Justin Herbert in a different setting. 62 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: So I watched it it was on, but I didn't 63 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: watch it like closely. You weren't taking notes. No, but again, 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's entertainment. It was a great venue. Vegas 65 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: went all out. Um, you could see the everyone enjoyed it. 66 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: It would look like some of the practices were cool 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: just that time of the year, but um, you know, 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: it was interesting. Both the NHL and the NFL had 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: their All Star games they are now. For the NHL, 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: they played on Saturday night, which is probably smart, and 71 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: then the NFL usually like games in the afternoon. It 72 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: was because it's been in Hawaii so many years, but 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: the fact that it did start at one o'clock local 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: time was kind of nice. Look, I think all the 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: players that were there had a good time, and that's 76 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: what you saw during the week. The game itself forty 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: one thirty five. The AFC beats the NFC for fifth 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: straight season. I think it is what it is is 79 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: I think what you said entertainment. Now, as far as competition, 80 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: there very rarely was any competition. I don't think Michael 81 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Parsons though there was one hit and then late in 82 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: the game he tried to get that ball back for 83 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: the NFC. But as jj Watt tweeted at the start 84 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: of the game, quote I've seen walk through is more 85 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: intense than this laughing emoji, And he's absolutely right. It 86 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: was less than half speed. There was no tackling, two 87 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: hand touch and you wonder, look, are you going to 88 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: invest three hours on a Sunday to watch that game? 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: You said you had it on maybe paying it a 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: little bit of attention, and you do like to see 91 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: your hometown team represents and be productive at the end 92 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: of the day, though, this game is nothing like it 93 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: was five years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago. 94 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know where they go next with this game. 95 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen how well it was received as far 96 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: as the television numbers, but it does always earn a 97 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: great rating, whether it did this year or not. But 98 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: as far as football, it is not football. It is 99 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: a practice out there. It's almost like seven on none 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: at times or eleven on none very rarely was there 101 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: much contact between the offense and the defense. Well, it 102 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: was on ABC, so you really didn't have to go 103 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: looking for it. You know. Obviously sometimes it's been on ESPN, 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: but it was on ABC. They were going against a 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: golf tournament, kind of a celebrity, and you know, obviously 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: the golfers and you know, you had some nice names 107 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: at the top of the board. But yeah, listen, the 108 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is go there and 109 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: get hurt. It's not worth it. And if somebody tears 110 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: an acl see here, this thing is, if it's not 111 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: worth for the players to get hurt, then why play 112 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: the game at all? Well, they're playing sixty percent. But 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I mean, that's the argument because you're charging 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: people to attend. Yep, you're making this a football game. 115 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: It's being broadcast by the Monday Night Football crew. Yet 116 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: if you're not getting the efforts from the players, then 117 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: what's the purpose. That's the argument against this game. I 118 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: think it's just to get everyone together, reward these guys 119 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: that are not in the Super Bowl, that had good 120 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: years and we know Kyler obviously started off well, and 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, obviously it didn't end well, but you know, 122 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: last year it was virtual and Kyler was the MVP 123 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: of that, and you know, a lot I'm sure there's 124 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: a lot of games that play video games, and probably 125 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: some guys that are married and have kids probably don't 126 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: have the time to do that. So there's I just 127 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: like the fact that there was there was activities and 128 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: in festivities and events. It's leading up to the game. 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: So if you went in there and look like the 130 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: fans had great access to their practices. You can see 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: based on acy cardinals dot com they were getting autographs. 132 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: You know. I like the way they introduced the players. 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: It's never gonna be perfect. But if you're playing sixty percent, 134 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: and I know you can get hurt at any time, 135 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: take a wrong step. But to me, when you're playing 136 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: hard and you're trying to, you know, show up, that's 137 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: when the injuries occur. So I think as a gentleman's agreement, Hey, 138 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: we're just gonna sit here and play Patty Cake. We're 139 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: not taking anybody down, because that'd be the worst thing. 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden somebody gets hurt and 141 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: they which canceled. Again. Here are the numbers as far 142 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: as what the Cardinals players did. Kyle the Murray outside 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: of that pick six eighteen to twenty seven for one 144 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards and a game high three touchdown passes, 145 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: all on fourth down. By the way, James Conner carry 146 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: the ball three times for three yards, had two catches 147 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: for thirteen yards. Dja Humps as you mentioned, MJ play 148 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: both left and right tackle. Chandler Jones had one pass defense. 149 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker did not register on the stat sheets, but 150 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: I just like the fact that we got to see him, 151 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: because the last image of Buddha Baker for anyone was 152 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: seeing him carted off the football field and the wild 153 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Card lost the Rams, And there was a part of 154 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: me MGA that was surprised to see Buddha Baker play 155 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: even show up, figuring, you know, yeah, he was cleared 156 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: and everything is good. But that was not that long ago. 157 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: So as he put out on social media from the 158 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: hospital bed and then later when he flew back to 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Arizona after that game in Los Angeles, yeah, full bill 160 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: of health. He's good to go, and it was good 161 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: to see Buddha Baker on the football field on Sunday. Yeah, 162 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, considering him and his girlfriend reasons 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: he just had a baby, he had, you know, two 164 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: or three different reasons to tap out, but maybe he 165 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: was just good to put the uniform on. Plus, I 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: mean between him and Chan, they're like two comedians out there. 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: And then James Connor obviously he's a guy that likes 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: to chat it up. And Kyler and then we know 169 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: that when it comes to TJ. Humphries, I mean, he 170 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: can carry his own conversation. So you know, it was 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: good to see him out there, but if he tapped out, 172 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: I would not begrudge him one bitch is based on 173 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: what happened, and he does have a child at home 174 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: now and he's really playing for him and his girlfriend 175 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: eventually his family. Now, what we talked about going into 176 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: this game here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday 177 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, was the spot and 178 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: choose And I don't think that was really discussed and 179 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: strategize enough on the broadcast to figure out, right, there's 180 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: not going to be any more kickoffs, so where do 181 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: you spot the ball and then what do you choose 182 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: to play offense or defense? So that was a little 183 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: confusing but the real interesting aspect as far as the 184 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: rule change was the fourth and fifteen and how often 185 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: teams after scoring a touchdown chose again, there's no onside kick, 186 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: so hey, we want the ball back either to extend 187 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: the lead or get back in the ball game. And 188 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen teams want to combine, oh for eight 189 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: on fourth and fifteen. And as much as I was 190 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: looking forward to that just to see, hey, could this 191 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: wind up in the preseason or even in the regular season, 192 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: But going back to our initial conversation, when you were 193 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: playing at fifty percent speed and efforts, how do you 194 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: judge whether fourth and fifteen went well because guys are 195 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: throwing the ball shorts or there's a half effort at 196 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: making a tackle, not an effort to get the first down. 197 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: So again, on paper, it was something I was looking 198 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: forward to, but you can't judge whether this is something 199 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: that you want to see in the preseason or a 200 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: regular season based off what we saw on Sunday. Well, 201 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're taking eleven different guys from probably nine 202 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: and a half ten teams where you have your own roster. 203 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: It was interesting after that. I think the AFC scord 204 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: Raybel wanted to I think Matt Lafleur, as you pointed 205 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: out two minutes ago with three time outs, he decided, 206 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: you know what I don't don't We're gonna put you 207 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: back on the field, try to get a defense stop. Yeah, exact, 208 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: and I guess Ray Bowl told the punter like all week, 209 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: not punning. This guy said he had two hot dogs 210 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: at halftime. It was classic, very well said, we're not punny. 211 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Can you imagine get an invited there? Can you just 212 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: throw me a bone? Like? Can I punt one time? 213 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: You can hold on extra points? That he did. He'd 214 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: had a couple holds, he said, but he did had 215 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: two hot dogs at halftime. That was like his highlight. 216 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: Besides you know, getting eighty grand Yeah, Mac Jones converting 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: on fourth and two to nag Harris and all of 218 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: a sudden the AFC able to run out the clock. 219 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: And that fourth and two conversion was worth forty thousand 220 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: dollars for the AFC because they got the winner's purse 221 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: versus the NFC. So that was He's the answer in 222 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: the end zone. Maybe that was the only competitive nature 223 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: of that game, But I am really intriggued by fourth 224 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: and fifteen to see if we can now get it 225 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: in the preseason, which you touched on and our most 226 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: recent Cardinals covered two show last week. Let each team 227 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: over three games in the priests season home away experiment 228 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: with fourth and fifteen, because maybe it's not your starters, 229 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: but it's your backups, guys who are trying to make 230 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: a team, and you're going to have full speed. You're 231 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: going to have guys go all out in the preseason, 232 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: especially those players that are looking to make an impact 233 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: either on their team or try to get on film 234 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: and stand out for one of the other thirty one teams. Well, 235 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: we know, you know during training camp there there's different 236 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: sessions two minute JO, four minute JO, red zone, hurry 237 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: up offense, trying to get in field goal range. You know, 238 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: anytime you see Andy Lee, you know with the with 239 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: the towel that that's mean it's like, you know, kind 240 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: of emergency. Everyone's gonna get in the field. So to me, 241 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: if you practice it, you'll get better results. And you know, 242 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: again the onsite kick has become obsolete. Now there's a 243 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: couple kickers out there, Tucker Prater probably missing a few 244 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: more that can do it. But it's the way the 245 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: ball is made. It's not just gonna go in wonder direction. 246 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: You can you can bounce it off the ground and 247 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: hope you got some outside guys and use it your 248 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: hands team, But it's tough to come back in those 249 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: games when you're down by four and there's only you 250 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: know again, you got to play defense. But it's just tough. 251 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: So I would hope they would implement it just for 252 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: the preseason, but I think if teams practice on it, 253 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: it'd be more part of a situational football. And remember 254 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: on the onside kick, you have to limit how many 255 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: players you have on each side. You can't overload like 256 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: you saw back in the day to where you've got 257 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: eight guys on one side to outnumber the opponent to 258 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: try to get that football that's been outlawed. Yeah, and 259 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: if you even go back to the kickoff, I mean, 260 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: you know, some teams are kicking at high trying to 261 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: down to you at the five or six yard line. 262 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: Some are kicking at three yards out of the end zone. 263 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: Some of these returners are returning it to me. If 264 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: you can't get to the twenty five, just down it. 265 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: And it's easier said than done. Because maybe you thought 266 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: you had a block, but they you can't have the 267 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: wedge anymore. So to me, that was the most dangerous 268 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: playing football was kickoff and kickoff return, just because you 269 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: got guys like Ron Wolfee run down there kamikaze style, 270 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: and his job was to stay in a lane and 271 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: make sure he takes care of the big guys. And 272 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: so that's two things that you know, they've cleaned the 273 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: sport up when it comes to kickoff and kickoff return, 274 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: but they have to find a solution to where if 275 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: you know the on site kick is, it's the percentages 276 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: that are very low, and I know it's hey, the 277 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: winning team, they scored more points than you got to counter. 278 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: But just like the overtime, you know, you got to 279 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: play defense. And if the Chiefs would have scored another 280 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: touchdown like they did in overtime against the Bills, I 281 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: think we would have looked at rule changes. You know, 282 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: both teams should touch the ball. On the broadcast, they 283 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: mentioned that over the last ten years, teams have been 284 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: successful converting fourth and fifteen twenty two percent of the time. 285 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a lot, but that's a of a 286 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: lot better percentage than teams converting an onside kick. Over 287 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: the last several seasons. Okay, twenty two is close to 288 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: twenty five. I gotta think it's in the single digits 289 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to the on site kicks. Yeah, so 290 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: you could see again there's gonna be teams that are 291 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: aggressive about it. And it's not like it's fourth and thirty. 292 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you third and tens a long way, 293 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: but fourth and fifteen. I don't think coaches would have 294 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: something in their playbook, probably more passing or a screen game, 295 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: or you know, trying to get something in the open field. 296 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Maybe take a shot. But yeah, it's twenty two versus 297 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: single digits is a vast improvement to where you can 298 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: actually get the ball, keep the ball. We'll see where 299 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: that is headed. I would like to see it take 300 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: that next step, probably in the preseason, but it obviously 301 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: was not successful in the Pro Bowl. Again, the NFC 302 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: loses forty one to thirty five. More up on Asy 303 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com about that game and the five players 304 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: five Cardinal players involved in the twenty twenty two Pro Bowl. 305 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of Easy Cardinals dot Com, you mentioned Danny Serek 306 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: and crew in Las Vegas all week long. She had 307 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: a chance to speak with I believe every single player 308 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: but Buddha Baker and maybe that's coming but not yet 309 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: on Easy Cardinals dot com. But Kyler Murray had a 310 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: chance to speak with Danny after Saturday's practice, first time 311 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: we've had a chance to hear from Kyler since the 312 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: season ended. Quote we made strides throughout the three years 313 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: I've been here, but we haven't reached that ultimate goal 314 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: and quotes. So yeah, he's taking the approach like I 315 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: believe a lot of people are. The further week get 316 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: away from that regular season that you can see improvement. 317 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: But the goal for every team is not just to 318 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: make the super Bowl, but to win the Super Bowl. 319 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: And that is the goal of Kyler Murray and it 320 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: should be the goal of everyone. Yeah. I mean, I 321 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: clearly this is the first time and he's had plenty 322 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: of time to think about what happened. Hopefully it bothers 323 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: him to where it doesn't happen again. You gotta you 324 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: gotta eat it and you gotta learn from it. But 325 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: we heard this stuff last year, Craig, you know, and 326 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: I want you know at some point we be referring 327 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: to a team. I would like to come out in 328 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: him say I need to play better. For I make 329 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: a reference to it all the time when the Chiefs 330 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: were like three and four. That Wednesday press conference, obviously 331 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: that's when the quarterbacks talk. Patrick Mahomes was asked a 332 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: question and I don't know what the question was, but 333 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: he said, I have to play better. It starts with me. 334 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm the quarterback, meaning I'm the leader of this team. 335 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: And I know these a little bit older obviously had 336 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: more success in Kyler, but at some point, you know, 337 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: Kyler's got to take responsibility to where I could have 338 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: done a lot of different things. Now, the coaching staff, everyone, 339 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: I thought the team regressed down the stretch. I mean offense, defense, coaching, 340 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean the offensive line was a strength in his 341 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: goal when they were ten and two. So it's just 342 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: one of those deals. And again he's twenty four years old, 343 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: but you see some of these young quarterback make these 344 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: strides and maybe you know, listen to Joe Burrow and 345 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: a couple of his teammates this week. You know, obviously 346 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: when you're in a super Bowl, you hear a lot 347 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: of things. They said he's so cool and common cleft. 348 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: He never yells, but if there are times he needs 349 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: to tell you to do something, but he's trying to 350 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: He's trying to help you versus talk down to you. 351 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: And I don't think Kyler does that. But again, if 352 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: he's going to be successful in this league, he's got 353 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: to be a much better leader, and he's got to 354 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: take more responsibility, and hopefully that happens. The quarterback always 355 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: should accept all of the criticism and deflects all of 356 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: the praise. That's what we heard from a Kurt Warner 357 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: or Carson Palmer. Now how long does it take for 358 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback to understand that, regardless of what level you're 359 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: playing at. But yeah, you are of the team, you're 360 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise. You'd say, stand up their 361 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: post game and accept whatever happened during those sixty minutes, 362 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: whether it was your faults or not. That is what 363 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback does. And I think at times we saw 364 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: heard a little bit of that from Kyle Murray during 365 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: the season. But to your point, I agree, not enough 366 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: to say, hey, look at me, learn or follow my lead, 367 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: and then let's see how we can move this forward, 368 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: because we all want to see this moved forward, not 369 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: as far as the win total, but a playoff run 370 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: moved forward. I couldn't agree more with him. They definitely 371 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: made progress. I think he's made progress with his press 372 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: conferences on Wednesdays. I think he's made progress, even though 373 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: you know he hates to lose. I'm sure everyone hates 374 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: to lose once you get to this level because you 375 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: work so hard during the week. But I think he's 376 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: definitely made progress. I think he's matured, but he still 377 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: has the ways to go to become that leader. And 378 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: at some point he's gonna have to grow up and 379 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: say this is my team and I don't need to 380 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: take responsibility for it. But I do agree. I mean, 381 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: the way this team was rolling, we got a chance 382 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: to see in training camp every day, and I think 383 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: you and I were optimistic. We didn't know how many 384 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: games are gonna win. You know, we figured ten or 385 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: eleven based on you know, seventeen game schedule, and they 386 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to make the Poe season. 387 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: Now the goal is in year four, it's I mean, 388 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: this team could be a crossroads when it comes to 389 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback and head coach going in a year four. 390 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: They were hoping to see progress in the year three, 391 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: and they hope in the offense would have been clicking 392 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: late in the year. That was the hope and that 393 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: was the goal. Well we didn't see that. So this 394 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: year there's gonna be a lot of pressure. And as 395 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: you pointed out, we talked about it's not how you start, 396 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: it's how you finish, and they're gonna get judged on 397 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: what they do in the month of December, which is 398 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: kind of unfair because we got we gotta respect the process, 399 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: but I understand the noise when it comes to these 400 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: second half collapses or falls. The full interview is up 401 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: on asy cardinals dot com, but it'll give Danny credit 402 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: for asking Kyler the question that we all want to 403 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: know about the off season and what he planned on 404 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: working on. Quote. I wouldn't get into too much detail, 405 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: but just get better. I think there are a lot 406 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: of things we all need to address individually. Team wise, 407 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: we understand kind of what happened, how we get there. 408 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: We've got to do it together. Obviously, everyone has to 409 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: work hard individually when we come together, as we've got 410 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: to be ready to go because it doesn't get easier. 411 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: And quotes and some of what we heard a year ago. 412 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Not wanting to get into detail and to a certain extent. 413 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: I understand keeping things behind closed doors, but this is 414 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: a fan base that now wants answers and wants to 415 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: know where this team is headed. You can't say wait 416 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: and see, we want to know right now. That's just 417 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: the way society is as well. Knowing now is opposed 418 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: to all right, well, let's see, and you go through 419 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: an entire offseason, you get to the regular season, hopefully 420 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: the postseason, but yeah, there are things that need to 421 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: be worked on, but specifics. I think fans right now, 422 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: MG wants specifics to try to figure out what twenty two, 423 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two is going to look like. Yeah, and 424 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I think they wanted, you know, answers were transferred at 425 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: the end of the season. I just think, you know, 426 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: I think injuries. I think it definitely affected them on offense. 427 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: I know you have to over come that stuff, but 428 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about a top three receiver. The offensive line 429 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: had nine different line combinations and this happens everywhere. And 430 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: I thought they had good depth going into the season, 431 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: but at times you're now you're down to your third 432 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: or fourth corner and that shows up. And then you 433 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: had a couple of rookies that flash, but they didn't 434 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: hold up throughout the season, and that's to be expected 435 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: because you only play twelve or thirteen games in college, 436 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes it hit the wall, and sometimes 437 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: Area says, as you know when he was here after Thanksgiving, 438 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: they're not rookies anymore. You've been here long enough. So again, 439 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: it's just not one area. I mean, they got to 440 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: get better on a lot of different areas. How this 441 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: team looked as far as on paper in September, I 442 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: think we were all encouraged, but it's how the team finished. 443 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: And you brought up a good point as far as injuries, 444 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: which kind of leads us into our next conversation here 445 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday probably partner of 446 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and that has taken a look at 447 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: the defensive back position, cornerbacks and safeties, because I can't 448 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: remember if it was at the end of the first month, 449 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: but the first quarter of the season, MJ. You looked 450 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: at the secondary and I think the safety position was 451 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: a little bit higher than the cornerbacks, but based off 452 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: the numbers and some solid numbers as far as Buddha Baker, 453 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson, Marco Wilson, Robert Alford, and Byron Murphy, those five. 454 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: And you called the secondary a strength of the defense. 455 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: And it was early in the season, Yeah, it wasn't 456 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: when the season ended. No, well, a couple things you 457 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: lose Robert Alford, Now he was here for the majority 458 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: of the season. He played in thirteen, but obviously they 459 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: missed him in both of those Rams games. You know 460 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: how I feel with his physicality Marco Wilson, I think 461 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: it was early on where you know, he had some confidence, 462 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: but also he had Byron Murphy that teams were maybe 463 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: targeting him more because Murphy obviously had a couple of 464 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: interceptions early on, he had a couple of passes defense 465 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: he you know, he made a great play on the 466 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: ball on de Seawan Jackson against the Rams. And then 467 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: then you look at just you know, Chase Whittaker and 468 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Bryon Borders. You know, Whittaker played in two games, Border 469 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: played just that one game. Missed a call. There was 470 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown to was it Odell Beckham Junior? I think 471 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: it's what it was. Yeah, so an Antonio Hamilton any 472 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: game and lift. But again, you're only as good as 473 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: your depth. And once those guys kind of hit the 474 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: wall and teams were targeting Wilson and Murphy Moore. Again, 475 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: it coincides with the front seven, but I thought these 476 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: guys were able to hold up, especially when the Cardinals 477 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: run defense wasn't getting gashed and they were able to 478 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. Doesn't mean you have to have 479 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: five or six acts. And let's be honest, when this 480 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: team was winning on the road, they were forcing turnovers 481 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: the defense and again they all play off of each other. 482 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: One the defensive line, the outside linebackers are getting to 483 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback. It makes things easier on the back end. 484 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: But when you're not getting to the back and that 485 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: quarterback has more time in the pocket to scan the 486 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: defense look for an open receiver, then you're asking these 487 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: corners and safeties to play their area or play man 488 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: to man a little bit longer full second half a 489 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: second longer than normal. And that's difficult for any defensive 490 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: back out there, even at all pro defensive back, because 491 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: if you have a quarterback enough time in the pocket, 492 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't care how good of a corner you are, 493 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: that wide receiver is going to find a way to 494 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: get open. There's no doubt, and you know I think 495 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: that's what Chandler was talking about. He wish he would 496 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: playing in the Browns game because Baker Mayfield was holding 497 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: the ball. We saw a lot of these quarterbacks, even 498 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: guy like p J. Walker and you know, Matthew Stafford 499 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: and even Jimmy Garoppolo, even Kirk Cousins, they're getting rid 500 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 1: of the ball. Two point one, two point five, and 501 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: that's kind of the in Just to give you a 502 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: reference point, Kyler was three three in the first half 503 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: of the Rams game, obviously feeling pressure, looking at the rush, rattled, 504 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: holding onto the ball, trying to make a play, gave 505 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: up the pick six down the second half he was 506 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: two point two. So the difference only is one second, 507 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: but the fact that you're getting rid of the ball, 508 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: guys are getting open and maybe they didn't get the separation, 509 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: and he was bailing on the pocket where earlier in 510 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: the year he was sitting in the pocket making those 511 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: tight throws down the field. Looking at this Cardinals secondary 512 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: and when we talk about defense backs, cornerbacks and safeties, yeah, 513 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: it was a good starts, but a poor finish. And 514 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: you'll just have to look at the last five games 515 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: and this again, Burgang and This is not all on 516 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and safeties. But when you talk about passing plays 517 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: passing touchdowns, you immediately go into the secondary because that's 518 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: one on one coverageery or in zone defense and someone 519 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: is getting open. Cardinals in twenty twenty one allowed the 520 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: fourth most passing touchdowns in the league thirty, but fourteen 521 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: of those mj nearly half came over the last five games. 522 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: And the big plays that we heard Kingsbury and jose 523 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: To talk about seven passing plays a thirty five or 524 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: more yards over those last five games. Seven There were 525 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: just six such plays in the season's first twelve games. Again, 526 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: that's not all on the secondary edge rushers. Are you 527 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: getting pressure on the quarterback? Is at quarterback having enough 528 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: time in the pocket, too much time? Obviously having too 529 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: much time in the pocket. But the drop off, and 530 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: this goes for everyone offense, defense and special teams, the 531 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: drop off dramatically different in that secondary as far as 532 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: what they were giving up versus what they were stopping 533 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: in the first half of the season, well, I think 534 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: it's twofold. First of all, this team was playing with 535 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: the lead. You're putting up thirty points a game, and 536 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: you had over four hundred yards pretty much in the 537 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: averaging and maybe the first month of the season. And 538 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team forced a lot of turnovers on the road, 539 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: but it came down to get enough pressure on the quarterback. 540 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden. Maybe he had once he had a sack 541 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: in the in the postseason game, but he had one 542 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: sack and the last five games prior to that. Chandler 543 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Jones had one sack in the last five games. Um, 544 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: So to me, it's a combination where and there was 545 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: poor tackling and guys are running free and that's miscommunication. 546 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: And I don't blame Bryon Borders. He just got here. 547 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: He missed a call um And then you look at 548 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: the Derek Kennard play on the Van Canar excuse me, 549 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: on the on the Rashad Penny, he takes a bad angle. 550 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: Ten guys are doing their job. So I think it's 551 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: a combination. They were scoring points and teams we had 552 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, so their forcing turnovers getting them 553 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: off the field. We know third down was much better 554 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: early than the season. The red zone defense was much 555 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: better than the season. It's just all it just it 556 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: wasn't the same in the second half. Um teams were 557 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: playing with the lead. Cardinals were going three and out, 558 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: four consecutive three and outs. In that rams games, you 559 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: off your call sheet and next thing you know, you're pressing. 560 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: And they weren't playing couplementary football. I mean, those a 561 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: lot of factors, but I do think earlier in the 562 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: season they were outscoring teams and that's where they were 563 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: forcing turnovers. There they were playing couple minary football that 564 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: the defensive force return they would score it was a 565 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: touchdown or a field goal. So but when you show 566 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: me this stat on Friday, I was like wow. I 567 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: mean we witnessed it obviously some in person on television 568 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: fourteen over the last five games, and Craig we talked 569 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: about splash plays usually there are twenty yards or more, 570 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: or chunk plays thirty five yards. I mean, you're talking 571 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: about guys running free, wide open. So now Vans is 572 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: in a situation where, hey, we want to put pressure 573 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: on Matthew Stafford, we want to put pressure on Russell Wilson, 574 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. So you're doing that, but also are you 575 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: playing man and manner zone? And they did a great 576 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: job against the Cowboys. I mean they shut all three 577 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: of those guys down. Gallup obviously had the touchdown tour 578 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: ACL City, lamb Amari Cooper, Schultz had a good day, 579 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: Elliott did nothing, and then all of a sudden next 580 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: week it was the total opposite. So again, I just 581 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: think the defense took a step back to last month 582 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: of the season trying to find some consistency. And if 583 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: you are the defensive coordinator and those position coaches, you know, 584 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: what do you do? How do you react when things 585 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: are going so well the first two and a half 586 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: months of the season and you get into late December 587 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: early January and there's a drop off, a dramatic drop off. 588 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: And I do think injuries played a factor. And maybe 589 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson not the single one player out, but I'm 590 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: going to as far as played maybe a little bit 591 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: beyond his means early in the season and then teams 592 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: got a read on what he could and could not do. 593 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: I do think I liked what we saw out of 594 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. He missed those final two games with a 595 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: shoulder injury, but I'm encouraged by what we saw because 596 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: we know it's in there for Marco. Wilson and Kingsbury 597 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: brought that up at his end of the sea. He's 598 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: in press conference. Asked about Wilson as far as his struggles, 599 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: because he did missed the regular season, but did play 600 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: in that wildcard game and struggled a lot, But according 601 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: to Kingsbury quote, it's an opportunity to grow a lot 602 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: as far as learning from those mistakes, and you hope 603 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: that Wilson now going into year two, considering how much 604 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: he played, started thirteen of the fourteen games he played, 605 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: and how much of an improvement do we see out 606 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: of Marco Wilson, specifically a young corner in what is 607 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: a pretty strong Dare I say the best division in 608 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: all of football depending on what happens here this offseason, 609 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: but you need strong cornerback play to win in the 610 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: National Football League. Yeah, I just look at the scope 611 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: position players. We don't need to go through the list. 612 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean, each team has a couple of guys, and 613 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: Robert Way was going to come back. We'll see what 614 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: happens with Beckham, but yeah, I mean, you know, going 615 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: into the season, you know I had tweeted out you 616 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: know the Cardinals have five or six guys that are 617 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: twenty five years old, and you know the future looks bright, 618 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not I'm not downing Bier and Murphy, 619 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: but when when we talk about all these guys, Craig, 620 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, and I'll give Marco Wilson, rookies and 621 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: maybe a second year guys a little bit benefit of 622 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: the doubt. But it's a consistency part. And once you 623 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: become a number one or two cornerback, especially in this 624 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: in this defense, if you're a number two, you're gonna 625 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: get targeted. And every team has three wide receivers. Now, 626 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: so let me ask you this, do they have a 627 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: number one corner on this roster? It's a very good question, 628 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: and my immediate response is no. Based off of how 629 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: the season ended. Now, if you ask me that's week eight, 630 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: I'd say yeah, because number wise, Bayern Murphy was playing 631 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: very well. He finished with four interceptions and twelve passes defense, 632 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: both marks led the team. In fact, they were career 633 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: best marks for Buyer Murphy. Yet how many of those 634 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: interceptions and passes defense happened late in the year. Only 635 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: four passes defense over the last nine games for Byron Murphy. 636 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: So that leads me to believe that, yeah, this is 637 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: a need because what happens with Robert Alford. He's an 638 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent. Were both on the record saying, yeah, 639 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: I love to see him come back, depending on how 640 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: much that's gonna cost. Yeah, he's up there in age, 641 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: but when he's been healthy, and it's only been one season, 642 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: he's been very, very good. This team needs to address 643 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: the cornerback position. Is that a number one or is 644 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: that just one of your top three? Because is Murphy 645 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: now and another question, MJ's Byron Murphy better suited to 646 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: play outside or inside, And that's something that this coaching 647 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: staff and maybe even Murphy's got to have a little 648 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: heart to heart look himself in the mirrors. All right, 649 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: where am I most effective? We've heard he's in the slot, 650 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: But your number one wide receivers nine times out of 651 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: ten are on the outside unless you're Cooper cut and 652 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: you move all the way around. But yeah, in the 653 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: perfect scenario, you would like to have Wilson and Alfred 654 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: on the outside and Murphy now, he played a ton 655 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: of snaps. So we're gonna look at your notes here. 656 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Most targeted deep on the team allowed the fifth highest 657 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: completion percentage of sixty five. Kind of goes back to 658 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: his first year was even worse. Um yeah he again, Um, 659 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: I know the confidence is there. I thought he became 660 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: more of a physical player. But you know, the way 661 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: I look at this, Craig and I know we're talking 662 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: about the defensive backs and corners. I mean, I think 663 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: just defensively interior defensive line, cornerback, pass rusher, and then 664 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: maybe some depth a inside linebacker. But at twenty three, 665 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of choices, and you know, just 666 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: watching the Senior Bowl, there's there's some really good corners 667 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: out there, and they're they're about six feet, They're they're long, 668 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes you like that five eleven guy. Matter of fact, 669 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: I read something this morning. Half of the dbs that 670 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: are in the Pro Bowl are under six feet under 671 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: six feet, So like Buddha Baker, he's a canon. I 672 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: mean he plays safety though versus you know. Yeah, but 673 00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: I definitely think corner, and I just don't know when 674 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: it comes to the salary cap and how much money 675 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: they'll have to spend a different position. I don't know 676 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: if you can go out and sign a big time corner, 677 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I think you got to try to develop one. And again, 678 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: whoever that guy is, you like to get You like 679 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: to get a veteran guy in here to compete like 680 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: a bonum breon borders. Yeah, I mean that's a late 681 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: edition just because he has experienced been in the league. 682 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: But I would say at this point in time, whether 683 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: they trade down, I don't see him trading up. I 684 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: think everything's on the table and we'll have to wait 685 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: what they's doing free agency because that will dictate what 686 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: they do. But I definitely think corner is a must 687 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: playing in this division. And the fact is, if you're 688 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: not scoring thirty points a game and putting up a 689 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: four hundred yards, you're gonna have to be tightened up 690 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: on the secondary and you can't be given up twenty 691 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: five thirty points a game. Some names to throw out 692 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: there as far as pick number twenty three and some 693 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: of the bigger draft prospects as far as first round 694 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: talents LSUS, Derek Stingley, junior Cincinnati's on that, Gardner, Washington, 695 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie of course, Washington known for its defensive back play. 696 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: And then free agency, you know, do you go out 697 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: and spend money on a J. C. Jackson out of 698 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: New England who made the Pro Bowl and played very, 699 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: very well at Darius Williams, who's twenty eights playing for 700 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: the Rams in the Super Bowl, Or do you look 701 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: for an older cornerback. Stefan Gilmour is going to be 702 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: a unrestricted free agent. Bryce Callahan from the Denver Broncos 703 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: thirty years old, Stephen Nelson of the Eagles twenty nine 704 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: years old, Casey Howard thirty two years old. So there 705 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: is a range on the free agent market from twenty 706 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: five to about thirty two. But how much money do 707 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: you want to put at that position? I do think 708 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: if you can't find a number one corner out there, 709 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: you might want to invest in a number one and 710 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: then that puts Spyry Murphy maybe back into the slot. 711 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson plays the other corner spot. But again, this 712 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty one, as far as defense, it's 713 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: a backplay and cornerbacks play play. Specifically, the drop off 714 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: happened significantly when Robert Alford went down, and you can 715 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: never plan for injuries, so you need good depth, and 716 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: maybe the Cardinals didn't have as much as they needed, 717 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: but certainly that is something that every team and every 718 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: general manager will look back in say what if, especially 719 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: when you're hit at a certain position significantly when it 720 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: comes to lost games because of injury. Yeah, when I 721 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: look at this draft, first of all, you know that's 722 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: how deep the tight end position is. But I think 723 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: interior line, interior line on both sides of the ball, corner, 724 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: pass rusher, and wide receiver. And you can make a 725 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: case that Cardinals can check all those box whether it's 726 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: in free agency, whether it's resigned their own player, whether 727 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: it's a trade or obviously going to a draft a player. 728 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: But you know, be in arresting to see, you know, 729 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: how many pass rushers come off the board, how many 730 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks come off the board. Obviously you could see a 731 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: tight end or two, and then you start to see 732 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: a run at a certain position because I do think 733 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: there's some really good left tackles. Now, I don't think 734 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are in m you know, again, you can 735 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: never have enough lineman when Beach him under contract, and 736 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: we'll see who the future right tackle is. DJ obviously 737 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: could have. But I we're gonna see some tackles come 738 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: off the board, and that will that will slide some 739 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: guys down at different positions. But there's always going to 740 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: be a run at a certain position at some point 741 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: in the draft and you just hope you're in it. 742 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: So cornerbacks certainly a position of need. As far as safeties, 743 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: I really like what the Cardinals have with Buddha Baker 744 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: and Jalen Thompson. And Thompson stayed healthy seventeen games. He 745 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: was on the field for every single game, and that 746 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: is big. But when you look behind your team captain 747 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: and Jalen Thompson, Deanta Thompson, James Wiggins, Javon Hagan who 748 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: was signed to a futures deal, Chris Banjoe Charles Washington, 749 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: both of those players unrestricted free agents and more special 750 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: teams players than anything else but safety. I could see 751 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: a position, not free agency, first wave, second wave, or 752 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: maybe even in the draft first or second day, but 753 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: a position that they look at to find someone behind 754 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: a Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson, because right now Deanti 755 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 1: Thompson just he hasn't been that guy yet. In fact, 756 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: he only played seventy one defensive snaps. He was mainly 757 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: a special teams player. Yeah, and clearly they have their starters, 758 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: and I'm intrigued with Wiggins. We just haven't had a 759 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: chance to see him, and you know he's kind of buried. 760 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: And we know chrisp angel is a special teams player, 761 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: So if you're a backup, you're gonna have to play 762 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: on teams in order to dress on game day. So 763 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: that will always be the role there. And Charles Washington 764 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: obviously wasn't able to contribute as much as he has 765 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: in the past because he's a good special teams player too. 766 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: Wiggins is an interesting one, the late round draft pick. 767 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: He's got good size, five eleven two oh nine, didn't 768 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: make the team coming out of training camp, started the 769 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: season on the practice squad, did find himself in three games, 770 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: but then end of the year on injured reserves. So 771 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: very limited role for James Wiggins. What is his motivation? 772 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: What does he do here? Taking that next step from 773 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: rookie season two year or two. Can he be a 774 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: factor where maybe he supplants Deontay Thompson as that third 775 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: safety special teams. You have to be able to play 776 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: special teams to be active on Sunday and then be 777 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: available to play on defense. Yeah, and so again, and 778 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: you look across the board. Usually you have two or 779 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: three corners or starters, depending on Usually teams are going 780 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: seventy eleven personnel that three wide receivers, one tighten won 781 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: back and then you want to you want to have 782 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: at least four or five or six when it comes 783 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: to playing on teams. And you know, Chris Angels a 784 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: guy if somebody gets hurt, he gets a chance to play. 785 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: You know, normally it would have been Deontay Thompson. There. 786 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson got a chance to play this year when injuries. 787 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: Right now he's not on the roster. So yeah, if 788 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: you're not starting, clearly you know that's Jeff Rogers has 789 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: a role. How can you use them? And you look 790 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: at the Victor de mcachee um. He wasn't going to 791 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: a lot of play on time on defense until late 792 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: in the year, but he really carved out his niche 793 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: on special teams. And that means you're gonna be dressing 794 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: on game day. So I think that I think you know, right, 795 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: you can go right now with Marco Wilson and Byron Murphy, 796 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: add to a draft pick and a veteran guy, try 797 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: to bring offered back and then add some depth to 798 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: the safety position behind the starters. You also have as 799 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: far as cornerbacks Breon Borders, Nate Brooks, and Jay's Whittaker 800 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: all signed to future contracts. And Whittaker has been one 801 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: of those players the former U of a Wildcat that 802 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: is flashed has seen sometime and one of those players 803 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: that has been protected a bunch when he's been on 804 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: the practice squad. So that tells me you don't want 805 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: to lose him, but you're looking to develop him. Five eleven, 806 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: one eighty five. He's got the hype, maybe not the 807 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: one eighty five doesn't sound like a lot Byron Murphy's 808 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: one ninety. But how does that look on you? Where 809 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: is that distributed on you? And I think he can 810 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: get a little bit stronger as far as jas Whittaker 811 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: is concerned. But defensive backs, ten players right now under contract, 812 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: four unrestricted free agents, two on either side. As far 813 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: as cornerbacks and safeties, Robert Alford, Antonio Hamilton, plus Chris 814 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: Banjo and Charles Washington, those are your unrestricted free agents 815 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: when you look at the secondary position. Yeah, and as 816 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: you pointed up, Banjo played sixteen games cores special teams player, 817 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: Charles Washington played in ten and I thought definitely missed 818 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: him on special teams. But those are other guys that 819 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: stepped up. Again, it's just more about tweaking here. It's 820 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: more you don't need to you don't need to start over, 821 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: hit the reset button. There's they have capable guys on 822 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: this roster, starting with Buddha and Jalen Thompson. There's probably 823 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: the strength of their defense. You have to get more 824 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: consistency out of Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson. But to me, 825 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: you have to add to this position to create more 826 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: depth and more competition and let the best five or 827 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: six guys make the roster. The back end of the defense, 828 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: safety the strength because you have a All Pro and 829 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: you have Jalen Thompson, I don't think gets enough credit now. 830 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: It's everyone in fronts of them doing their jobs. You're 831 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: not asking a Buddha Baker and a Jalen Thompson to 832 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: be everywhere on the football field where nine times out 833 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: of ten they have been because someone didn't do their 834 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: job or was beaten on a specific play. Yeah, I mean, 835 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: you know, I looked at the numbers. Jalen Thompson. You 836 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 1: know one Hunter tackles. You know when you look at him, 837 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: you can compare him to some of the other safeties 838 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, he probably doesn't get in 839 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: the same breath as those guys. And you know, I 840 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: like the way he approaches it. I like his practice habits. 841 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: He talks about going out there and you know, what 842 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: you do during the week is going to carry over 843 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: to game. And he hasn't made some bonehead penalties, So 844 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: to me, he's he's a guy you can build around. 845 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think locally, we think, 846 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, you start looking at the ages and what 847 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: those guys provide for the defense. They're two keepers in 848 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: my opinion, real quick. And we'll get more into this 849 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: later in the week. But as we sit here on 850 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 1: this Monday edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, 851 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals Super Bowl fifty six, 852 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: which way is Mike Jarecki going to go? Well, hold 853 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: you to it. I'll come later in the week, but 854 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: right now, what do you think? Well, Well, first of all, 855 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: I want to give Cincinnai a lot of credit because 856 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: nobody picked them, and that's the beauty of football. I 857 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: think it's the best reality show going. And I with 858 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: my concern going into the previous game, was the Bengals 859 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: offensive line. Now he gets rid of the ball pretty quick. 860 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: Obviously he's got weapons, Jamar Chase, winning a lot of 861 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: one on one matchups. They got a nice running game 862 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: and Joe Mixon, they have other receivers and Tee Higgins. 863 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: I just wonder I'll take the Rams defensive line pass 864 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: rush against their secondary. Can Burrow get the ball off 865 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: quick enough? Because you know Aaron Donald, this is the 866 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: only thing he's missing. And you know Matthew Stafford thirty 867 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: four today and obviously really you know have a nice 868 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: little feather in a cap by winning a Super Bowl, 869 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: going to a new team, the reason why they went 870 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: out and got them. I just want to say, I 871 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: just want to see a good game. But if there's 872 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: one area where I think the Rams can excel, and 873 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: that is the dur front seven against that line where 874 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow will not be able to make those down 875 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: the field throwers. All right, burg Gang. We'll see if 876 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki's opinion changes as we get closer and closer 877 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: to Super Bowl Sunday and literally discuss this matchup a 878 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: little bit more in depth. But we'll let MJ marinates 879 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: on that and kind of look ahead and really do 880 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: a deep dive on the Bengals and Rams matchup. Again, 881 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult for a lot of fans, myself included, 882 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 1: to watch another NFC West team in that game on Sunday. 883 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 884 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,479 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud 885 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 886 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Almahandro for Mike Drekie, I'm Pregria Loop. 887 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.