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Speaker 1: So bye week over Cowboys six two. It is time
Speaker 1: to get ready for the Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you, gentlemen, when the schedule came out,
Speaker 1: said to myself, this is gonna be real tough. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a L when it first came out.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say L because it was coming
Speaker 1: out the bye week. So you're gonna have time to
Speaker 1: get ready for this. With Mike McCarthy going back to
Speaker 1: Green Bay where he won a Super Bowl, the last
Speaker 1: Packers coach to win a Super Bowl, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know this in church, I was gonna get you
Speaker 1: speak on this. This is when the players try to
Speaker 1: make sure they take care of their coach without a
Speaker 1: doubting I mean, you know, coming you know that your
Speaker 1: head coach. You got McCarthy, all right, he was. He's
Speaker 1: done a long service of duty in Green Bay, got
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, did all that good stuff. And the
Speaker 1: way he exited, I mean, I don't think they were
Speaker 1: on the best of terms him in the Green Bay organization.
Speaker 1: He took a year off in the lab then he
Speaker 1: came down here to Dallas and he's doing this thing.
Speaker 1: So as players, you already know the coach ain't gonna
Speaker 1: come out and say, man, you know what, I hate that.
Speaker 1: You know they did me dirty all the stuff. He
Speaker 1: ain't gonna come out and say all that. You know,
Speaker 1: He's gonna go let's go out there and do our work,
Speaker 1: do our due diligence, and we're gonna go out there
Speaker 1: and get this w guys. He's gonna give the political answer.
Speaker 1: But deep down, each one of those players know we
Speaker 1: gotta do this for McCarthy. We gotta go out there
Speaker 1: and put off our head coach who he has, you know,
Speaker 1: some bad blood with that organization over there, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna put it on for them, and we're gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and get this w for the squad, so
Speaker 1: they have some added motivation in there. And on top
Speaker 1: of that, Green Bay is struggling. So I don't expect
Speaker 1: if Dallas gets up big in this game, I don't
Speaker 1: expect McCarthy and this offense Kelly Moore, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna let up the gas. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep heading it up, just keep pushing down
Speaker 1: on it. We're up twenty one, sending them out there again.
Speaker 1: We're going up twenty eight, were up twenty eight, send
Speaker 1: him out there again, We're going up thirty five. I
Speaker 1: can fully see that happening come Sunday if Green Bay
Speaker 1: doesn't come to play. They embarrassed Mike. You know, Mike
Speaker 1: wonna say it, but I said phone. They embarrassed Mike.
Speaker 1: And not only that, Mike had to stay in the
Speaker 1: town and live with that embarrassment. He talked about it
Speaker 1: at the press conference. You know, had to go have
Speaker 1: surgery on his knee, go to the rehabilitation center right
Speaker 1: next to lambeau Field. Everybody know where you live, where
Speaker 1: you are. You know, you can't even go to you
Speaker 1: can't even go to water Burger and I know they
Speaker 1: don't have one. Whatever. You can't you can't go to
Speaker 1: your you go to the grocery store. Can't you go
Speaker 1: to grocery can't you know what I mean? Mike, Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. And I and for one, you know, you
Speaker 1: think about the pressure that Mike was under, was coming
Speaker 1: into this season on his coacher's tail off, got his
Speaker 1: team to six and two going into the bye week.
Speaker 1: You know, I think relatively this team is getting a
Speaker 1: lot healthier. So in this game versus Green Bay and
Speaker 1: I'm man, I'm I don't find any joy in what's
Speaker 1: going on in Green Bay right now. But my time,
Speaker 1: so we're coming, We're coming into town. You know, red
Speaker 1: hot right now. Offense found their found the way, you know,
Speaker 1: and defense is obviously carrying. And this this break came
Speaker 1: into much needed time for them to get healthy and
Speaker 1: man like you like you guys just said that. If
Speaker 1: I'm Mike, I'm up by twenty eight boy, I'm piling on.
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything that had Conte Turp take one to
Speaker 1: the hope, fake fake punk everything for the church. This
Speaker 1: the way he should have said, hold on that, hold
Speaker 1: on that, Seeing whoa I said it right the first time.
Speaker 1: I said it right the first time. We up by twenty.
Speaker 1: The question is you're gonna double down on that. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a little that's tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get to that. Let's get tomorrow. We've got time.
Speaker 1: We've got more time on that. We got something we
Speaker 1: got to talk about anyway, Yes, yes, he got somebody.
Speaker 1: Did somebody use away then involved the tasty cake? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Oh Philadelphia's find it his other boys, his
Speaker 1: other boy. It is the I want full credit because
Speaker 1: I picked the Green Bay Packers to miss the playoffs
Speaker 1: in my picks preseason picks of the Morning News, and
Speaker 1: I had Minnesota win the division. Oh Kurt, dude, this
Speaker 1: division is wrapped up. What did you base what did
Speaker 1: you base that assumption off? Of regression? To the mean, sir,
Speaker 1: you had three straight seasons of thirteen wins, and that's
Speaker 1: a hard thing to do, and to keep on winning
Speaker 1: that that heavily. You also lost Davante Adams, the only
Speaker 1: legitimate and replaced him with nothing and to sit up
Speaker 1: here and say, well, okay, who's the who's the top guy? Now?
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard? Come on, man, he wasn't even the top two.
Speaker 1: So then you go go sign Sammy Watkins. Then you
Speaker 1: drafted some dude. I've just said this. It doesn't work
Speaker 1: in your offensive line. It hasn't. So I just look,
Speaker 1: you've you've you've taken pieces away. You're sitting here and
Speaker 1: you expecting Aaron Rodgers to just, you know, take care
Speaker 1: of everything. He's a quarterback, not a magician. I mean,
Speaker 1: these dudes can't play. So I just saw what was
Speaker 1: going on there. And then, as much as I love
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer personally, and I do I love when he
Speaker 1: was here, it got old for him in Minnesota and
Speaker 1: Zim did not like Kirk Cousins just when his kind
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, he didn't like it. So you take Zimmer out,
Speaker 1: And how do I say this nicely? No, I'll say it.
Speaker 1: Did we say anything nicely? When that happening. Zim can
Speaker 1: be dooming gloom at times, you know, for guys, and
Speaker 1: and that wears on people. After so many years, and
Speaker 1: they wanted him gone. They bring in Kevin O'Connell, who
Speaker 1: who worked with Kirk Cousins in Washington, who had a
Speaker 1: belief in Kirk Cousins. So right out of the gate,
Speaker 1: this is a different dude, offensive guy. People were happy,
Speaker 1: people like being in the building. Um so it was
Speaker 1: you could just from the time he was how you
Speaker 1: just kept hearing more, more, more positive things. And I
Speaker 1: just thought that green Bay regression, Minnesota, having a fresh face,
Speaker 1: being able to I thought they could win the division.
Speaker 1: And I did not expect Chicago or Detroit to be there.
Speaker 1: So it was really the competition there. Now I expect
Speaker 1: them run away with it. But here it is, and
Speaker 1: we're sitting here now looking at Green Bay with five
Speaker 1: straight losses. This is a win that the Cowboys should
Speaker 1: get for Mike McCarthy, but more importantly get for themselves,
Speaker 1: which sets up a game between the Cowboys and the
Speaker 1: Vikings next week. It's in Minnesota. Is it on primetime? No,
Speaker 1: it's not. Okay, it should be. Oh it'll be. It'll
Speaker 1: be somebody's game in a week. But but it will
Speaker 1: not be. Uh, it will not be. Will not be
Speaker 1: prime time. The cowboys next primetime game is the Colts.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Hold on, hold on, here we go, ladies,
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, all right, all right, The Cowboys have only
Speaker 1: been flexed once since NBC got Sunday Night Football, like
Speaker 1: flex out of it right now, and that was because
Speaker 1: it was a terrible team that was a part of
Speaker 1: that time. No, when Jalen Smith said the owner ain't tripping, well,
Speaker 1: y'all trip ye Andy Dalton's quarterback, So that was it
Speaker 1: was that it was that team that was rough. But
Speaker 1: NBC will never flex out, flex out the Cowboys if
Speaker 1: they're good, and right now they're a good football team,
Speaker 1: so they're right. You just know Cowboys. So now now
Speaker 1: I did wonder we discussed yesterday in the office, could
Speaker 1: Cowboys in Minnesota be flexed into Sunday Night because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Colts game that's in December? So could could next
Speaker 1: week be flex because now you're in that window where
Speaker 1: you can start flexing games. That'll be interesting. But I'm
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that Fox has protected that game, but maybe
Speaker 1: not because before the season you really didn't know what
Speaker 1: Minnesota could be. So I don't. Yes, CBSM because yes,
Speaker 1: you're protected by guests. You're right, because that's what my
Speaker 1: producer toime is CBS protected the game, which CBS protects
Speaker 1: cowboy games because they want them. They don't get them
Speaker 1: very often. So um, thank you very much for correction.
Speaker 1: So no, you're gonna sit Nance and Romo on up there,
Speaker 1: and look when CBS can get cowboys. I mean you
Speaker 1: notice they don't really have them at noon, they get them.
Speaker 1: They put them with three twenty five with Romo and Nance.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, right, So so this is now your CBS
Speaker 1: lucks into a really prime game. But Jeff Saturday coaching
Speaker 1: against Mike McCarthy will be on NBC. Baby, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: Jeff with Sam Ellinger at the QB right by the way.
Speaker 1: In case you did not hear, Frank wrich fired as
Speaker 1: predicted by someone here here said Frank weeks ago. Weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Frank Wrech fired, replaced by ESPN analyst Jeff Saturday and
Speaker 1: high school football coach. Yeah so yeah, yeah, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're play in that locker room, like, who are you
Speaker 1: thinking right now? We got a guy I was watching
Speaker 1: the NFL live. He's gonna be by head coach coach.
Speaker 1: I haven't hurt my knee been hurt now I'm sitting.
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna tell him. And if you will receiving.
Speaker 1: If you listen to what he's talking about running the ball, run,
Speaker 1: you ain't getting no passes. Man, damn not like this
Speaker 1: quarterback they have can throw. Yeah, that's true, took sa Melican.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this is a tough draw for for
Speaker 1: this team and from the ownership all the way down
Speaker 1: the way that they're handling this. Um, it's just it's
Speaker 1: so bad. It's so bad. The dysfunction is like real.
Speaker 1: And right after Earth say it gets the right fired,
Speaker 1: he's out. They just put a helmet up. It's just
Speaker 1: a helmet, you know. We replaced our coach and then
Speaker 1: the next thing you got is a picture a call. Now.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke at first, because because
Speaker 1: plays like that on tway, you'll play like that. I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: he plays joke. Um, hey man, has that ever? And
Speaker 1: my question is has that in my in my and
Speaker 1: I trying to find that that has that ever happened
Speaker 1: before an interim coach from outside of the organization, someone
Speaker 1: that it has not been coaching. The thing is for me,
Speaker 1: like college football. The only time I can think of it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I mean I think I think what really kind
Speaker 1: of ticks people off. Is this the Rooney rule? Uh?
Speaker 1: Not even that. I mean, even if you're a coach
Speaker 1: on the staff, you're thinking to yourself, like, damn, nobody
Speaker 1: around here that has a pulse for what's going on
Speaker 1: with this team could have been the interim coach for
Speaker 1: then you too, possibly bring in Saturday if he's your guy.
Speaker 1: Let's just say Saturday comes in. He has any success,
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen next, He's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the coach, all right, But then all of these
Speaker 1: other guys are out to me. I just feel like,
Speaker 1: for um, for the powers that be uh in the NFL, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, guys, you gotta you have got to do
Speaker 1: a better job of trying to say face in situations
Speaker 1: like this. You're not even trying. I mean this weekend,
Speaker 1: this Saturday, I was looking at college football and Cadillac
Speaker 1: Williams is the interim coach of Arburn. Young black call
Speaker 1: Williams one of the best running backs they ever played
Speaker 1: at Arburn. That's saying a lot, right, But then you
Speaker 1: see this young man coaching that's the face of that
Speaker 1: should be the what you should be looking for. As
Speaker 1: far this inclusion in all this, man, this is a joke.
Speaker 1: This is a joke to me. Heck, I'm gonna push
Speaker 1: back a little bit here, push cuts because I've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about the Rooney rule on
Speaker 1: this Rooney rule does not apply to interim coaches. Okay,
Speaker 1: does not apply. And when you talk about getting fair
Speaker 1: chances to be a head coach, this is the organization
Speaker 1: that hired Tony Dudgy. Exactly after Tampa Bay let him go?
Speaker 1: What a Super Bowl with him? Tony Dudgy retired. They
Speaker 1: promoted Jim Caldwell black head coach with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So Jim er say smu graduate. As far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: if people want to point the finger talking about whether
Speaker 1: or not you hire black he's done it. He has
Speaker 1: done it and had success. Now would you be wised
Speaker 1: to bring Jim Caldwell back? I would say so. But
Speaker 1: when people want to point the finger at the coach
Speaker 1: and talk about diversity, I'd say, hey, hey, this is
Speaker 1: a man who's showing you that he's been more than
Speaker 1: willing to hire black head coaches and had some sex successful.
Speaker 1: I just feel like this organization all they do is
Speaker 1: kind of kick the can down the road. You know
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blame WinCE. You know I'm gonna blame Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: Now it's Frank right now, we're gonna bring in Jeff Saturday. Like,
Speaker 1: who who is the guy behind those two guys? Okay,
Speaker 1: then you gotta pay he's out the building. If Heckman
Speaker 1: sit up here and says, hey, Baron, you should hire
Speaker 1: knew he knew, he comes out to be a dude.
Speaker 1: You looking at Heckma, But what about the team? What
Speaker 1: about Ballard? You can't Now that's a fair question because
Speaker 1: he's the guy I'd be brought and Matt right now,
Speaker 1: that is that is a fair question. That is a
Speaker 1: fair question. But he's a liked guy. And you know
Speaker 1: how this in this league, when you like it, it
Speaker 1: ain't what you know, it's who you know. And I
Speaker 1: will give y'all appreciate that. With what you're saying about Earth, say,
Speaker 1: but when the dysfunction, when you hire someone from outside,
Speaker 1: he's an insider, he's a royalty there. But by the
Speaker 1: guys that's in the locker room, he's an outsider. So
Speaker 1: what connection do they have? And he hadn't been there
Speaker 1: for OTAs, hadn't been there for training camp. He hadn't
Speaker 1: been there for anything. He's been there in a consultation role.
Speaker 1: Even so, the coaching staff that's there already, I mean,
Speaker 1: and you know, these people have families, they're all they
Speaker 1: listen to these podcasts just to find out how we
Speaker 1: think about coaching staffs. Man, that those guys have got
Speaker 1: to be talking amongst themselves, like and the what you
Speaker 1: had a sister head coach for how you got all
Speaker 1: these battle around and you bringing in my guy from
Speaker 1: what ESPN had a problem with that. This is failing miserably. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you kind of love that, I'm telling you, Man, sports
Speaker 1: right now is pretty damn cool you think about. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I love the mess head TMZ between between, but the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. So hey, we're gonna we're gonna hire this
Speaker 1: dude and the Celtics that they suspended, We're gonna bring
Speaker 1: him in here. We're gonna fire Steve Nash. And now
Speaker 1: you got Jim Merci said, I was watching TV the
Speaker 1: other day out a conversation with Jeff. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't really like what Jeff had to say. You know,
Speaker 1: why don't you come up here running this thing for us? Man?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you were like you was a good high
Speaker 1: school coach. Want to stay Jampiship, Come on, how hard
Speaker 1: it canna be? You gotta met man, this it's I
Speaker 1: enjoy doing this. It's good for TV. But the players
Speaker 1: in the locker room right now, and man, they mad,
Speaker 1: it's all hell, what side did they bring to this
Speaker 1: organization that could turn us around? You haven't, like you said,
Speaker 1: you haven't been there. He hasn't been in the trenches
Speaker 1: with us, going to war with us. Like you know,
Speaker 1: it's from the outside. You don't know the inner workings
Speaker 1: of of what's going on, God's personality, all of those things, man,
Speaker 1: And and look, it just seems like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a joke to me to do it that way. That's
Speaker 1: that's the only thing. I guess. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I want gods to get an opportunity, and
Speaker 1: it's the fact that gods are not getting the opportunity
Speaker 1: to even be that, you know, That's what That's what
Speaker 1: it is, honestly. Okay, And this comes another pet peeve
Speaker 1: of mine. When you do get the job like Steve
Speaker 1: Wilkes got it in Carolina, be you know, to be
Speaker 1: the interim. It's just trash. It's trash, you know, that's
Speaker 1: what you normally get. So fine, this thing's on fire.
Speaker 1: Smith in there, I don't you know, I mean, don't
Speaker 1: love you. Somebody did love you on the phone, Margaret
Speaker 1: lewis you available for come on? We played the game
Speaker 1: right right right? So when you you block and you
Speaker 1: get the interim, headcut what its? It's been blowed the
Speaker 1: ship and been thinking. No, I don't want this. What's
Speaker 1: all this water? I said? You want an opportunity to here?
Speaker 1: Is this? Ain't it right? Right? No? Man, go take
Speaker 1: this stick this You're going out to answer these questions
Speaker 1: for this bluishness, you know, cat like Williams. Really you
Speaker 1: want to coach Auburn right now? I wouldn't want it. No,
Speaker 1: all right now, this thing is trash. I don't want
Speaker 1: this thing, and give it to me now. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to get it here in my little meeting. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: by hanging together, you know, but no, now you got
Speaker 1: to run out here answer for it now. The last
Speaker 1: guy who did it successfully in terms of handling a
Speaker 1: messy situation was Dusty Baker. Hey man, hit the ass,
Speaker 1: throws the cubes and cheating and all this kind of stuff. Hey, Dusty,
Speaker 1: you come out here and take these slings and arrows
Speaker 1: for these guys who were cheating and you had no
Speaker 1: parts of it. And Dusty I was happy, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't like Houston. I don't like the
Speaker 1: dash rolls and all. Sorry Danny mc craig, but I
Speaker 1: was happy with Dusty because it's like, hey man, how
Speaker 1: do you get the job normally when you're black, it's
Speaker 1: trash handle this mess got a mess called black man.
Speaker 1: Come hey guy, come on, here's your shot. Look at
Speaker 1: my boys down to Houston. Okay, you got Dusty had
Speaker 1: to take it over. Now you got no before love you.
Speaker 1: Where was the other black dude? Like Sean Watson was like, man,
Speaker 1: I want beating and they were like, we don't even
Speaker 1: know what name man. Brother. You had to check is
Speaker 1: he really black? So you had to see you had
Speaker 1: to do the background check because he was so light skinned.
Speaker 1: Thinking like with a Thomas Jefferson's kid. We put a man,
Speaker 1: he got a year, I got fired, and then you
Speaker 1: got to check the text. Two black coats they got
Speaker 1: they can't win nothing dudes again. Then he got Houston.
Speaker 1: The Rockets. Man, they gonna bring out my boy Stephen. Silence.
Speaker 1: Man that everybody at RUSS said, Lee, I'm leaving James
Speaker 1: harden Quit on the team he won out right right, Silence,
Speaker 1: it's yours guy, right, one black coach here. He is.
Speaker 1: His team's t straight for the lottery. Man. So no,
Speaker 1: Jim Mursey called me, Nah, Bro, I'm good. I'm I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. You called me afterwards. Okay, I'll take the
Speaker 1: inter of you after the season ends. Maning running these
Speaker 1: messages good luck Saturday. Right, they do well? You know
Speaker 1: he tried his interim coach. They lost every game. He's
Speaker 1: not real good. Nah, no, brother, the team was trash.
Speaker 1: I got Sam Ellinger. What do you want me to do.
Speaker 1: I'm a coach. I'm not a magician. Sam can't blame man.
Speaker 1: So but Jim Murs say, Man, the guy has the
Speaker 1: guy hired Jim Caldwell, Tony Dungee went to two Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: So we can't point the finger him and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's not tried to you know,
Speaker 1: who's not his part for the Greeney rule in terms
Speaker 1: of hiring people of color. So he has done that.
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Speaker 1: status man talking about Zeke going up to Green Bay.
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Speaker 1: better spirits. Do and look, I'm make good spirits. I'm fine.
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Speaker 1: Coaching games hijack. So um, I'm look. I'm happy for
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday, former tar Heel. Good luck to you, uh
Speaker 1: boof enjoy their meetings. Enjoy those meetings. I'm talking to
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson later on this week, and I'm gonna. I
Speaker 1: don't think I really ask Jimmy about that. You know, what,
Speaker 1: what is it like to step into a room where
Speaker 1: these aren't your people? When he Jimmy left Oklahoma stating
Speaker 1: went down to Miami, that's what happened. They basically needed
Speaker 1: to keep a lot of Howard Schnellenberger's staff, and it
Speaker 1: was friction. And after that first year he ran a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys off and he said, I'm never going
Speaker 1: to go somewhere I don't have my guys. So I
Speaker 1: can't imagine Jeff Saturday. Mean, it's not like you're sitting
Speaker 1: up there, coming and you bring anybody with you. But
Speaker 1: look at it, you late, Yeah, who's you? Right? That's
Speaker 1: gonna come down right? Right? So so good luck to them,
Speaker 1: but which which I will come back into. This makes
Speaker 1: me really appreciate what Mike, Mike McCarthy has done. I
Speaker 1: have got a better appreciation you are and more for
Speaker 1: what Mike has done in this organization and and the
Speaker 1: stability that they have had after that for year when
Speaker 1: he got rid of Mike Nolan and I thought I
Speaker 1: thought he had a really good point. You heard the
Speaker 1: press conference today when he talked about Hey, I sat
Speaker 1: out of the year. I got a lot of advice.
Speaker 1: I got some good advice, he says, some bad, and frankly,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of it that I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: listened to. Mike Nolan peak one of them. I can
Speaker 1: do it. I got his defense looking crazy right right,
Speaker 1: and so you see now what he has done, and
Speaker 1: you just look a right Matt Lafleur. Right now, we're
Speaker 1: Green Bay when they're facing this week. Man, that's some problems, right,
Speaker 1: They struggling. Not only are they struggling, his decision making
Speaker 1: is really being called out left and right about what's
Speaker 1: going on here. So but not just him though knew it.
Speaker 1: It's We've seen a lot of bad decision making in
Speaker 1: the NFL this year. I mean the charges. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying they're the poster child, all right for bad decisions.
Speaker 1: But even I mean the game the Rams versus Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: You have to I mean, what what what is? What
Speaker 1: are the Rams thinking? Yeah? What are you doing? You
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get some slap, you want to get Tom
Speaker 1: Brad what are you doing? And you just go, Lady
Speaker 1: marsh down for forty two seconds. But you gotta remember, man,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who would have lost the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl if the dude on the other side who used
Speaker 1: to be his assistant, what as bad as he was,
Speaker 1: I mean that that offense, I mean, mister Guru and
Speaker 1: the Op, there was not a lot of offense in
Speaker 1: there in the Super Bowl. I mean this guy kept running.
Speaker 1: Finally his own assistants, Hey, dude, maybe we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to throw and then then then it was just the Coop.
Speaker 1: Then basically Stafford like, all right, whatever and Coop me
Speaker 1: and you we're gonna go down the field. It win
Speaker 1: this thing. But I loved how Jalen Rams he called
Speaker 1: them out, called out the because Steve Wish of NFL
Speaker 1: Network said, how did you feel about, you know, having
Speaker 1: to go out for that last drive. It's like we
Speaker 1: shouldn't have had to be out there, which is him saying,
Speaker 1: Guru coach, mister offensive genius should have run out the clock.
Speaker 1: That show was a buck forty four whenever. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, that's just all them gurgles something. You know,
Speaker 1: they always think, you know, I'm smarter than the game.
Speaker 1: Look at look at she was a shanahanded with Atlanta
Speaker 1: all y'all had to do that second twenty eight to three.
Speaker 1: All y'all had to do was just run, run the ball,
Speaker 1: and it's a day you got yourself. A ring day
Speaker 1: would look bad. But then Shanahan didn't learn when he
Speaker 1: got to the Super Bowl him again. Yeah, ten point
Speaker 1: lead against Kansas City again, gonna stop running, We're gonna
Speaker 1: We're gonna let Jimmy g throw the guy who I
Speaker 1: guess it was the NFC jim to get through like
Speaker 1: what twelve passes? No, Hey, Jimmy go go, Jimmy go,
Speaker 1: miss wide open, missus miss Manuel saying wide would have
Speaker 1: won a game? Is still running, Yes, wide open to
Speaker 1: nobody around him. So but but yes, you are correct.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's coach makes some crazy decisions out there, John Harbor,
Speaker 1: What you doing? John Harbin lost three games by himself,
Speaker 1: Ye blowing lead, blowing lead. Oh, how about Josh mcdanie's
Speaker 1: blowing three seventeen point leads with the Raiders. Before before him,
Speaker 1: the Raiders organization nineteen sixty had only blown five in
Speaker 1: their history. This dude's got three. Three Again, there are
Speaker 1: some and they're all offensive. Coach. I had had this
Speaker 1: not an argument debate with somebody, and I got it
Speaker 1: from Rick Goslin, a long time NFL writer, like, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna hire a guy these days, hire somebody who's
Speaker 1: got a defensive background, because too many of these offensive guys,
Speaker 1: especially the ones that have the quarterback background. It's one throw, throw, throw, throw,
Speaker 1: and but the decision making process is really one that
Speaker 1: weirs you out. I mean, the more of these games
Speaker 1: that you watch, obviously to your point, like how do
Speaker 1: you make that decision? When you know when you come
Speaker 1: back to this, guys are telling you like, dude, if
Speaker 1: you if you're just running the ball, you're gonna run
Speaker 1: the clock out? Or the other one? How about kicked
Speaker 1: the field goal? WHOA, that's a strange phenomenon. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you see what we did here? What was that that
Speaker 1: last week? Yeah, or two weeks ago when when they
Speaker 1: had a decision to go for it, Mike was like, nah,
Speaker 1: man hold on Keller, we go back. But that was
Speaker 1: but that was I think that was a moment for
Speaker 1: everybody at first with with McCarthy where they said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you could see that's I don't want He's coaching the
Speaker 1: league for twenty nine years, so that's not maturity. But
Speaker 1: that's just him saying who woa woa, whoa, whoa. Oh Hello,
Speaker 1: we're gonna call it time him out. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: go for it here, We're gonna kick a field goal.
Speaker 1: And I think for collect all of the fan base
Speaker 1: took a collective breath together, even though there's so many
Speaker 1: people that believe in its analytics stuff. And again, those
Speaker 1: same people are the same ones that were hired for
Speaker 1: these young, offensive minded coaches to get these jobs. And
Speaker 1: then when you're sitting there watching these guys on the job,
Speaker 1: like a guy on San Diego or you know, right now,
Speaker 1: these are head scratchers, you know, but then you love
Speaker 1: to see guys having success as well as much you
Speaker 1: dump on the young ones. What about the guy in
Speaker 1: Miami he doing this thing? Oh man? Find out the
Speaker 1: brought out like what I'm saying, nothing about it the press. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess you could say that I believe
Speaker 1: in analytics. I do. I believe in analytics, but I
Speaker 1: also believe in good old fashioned common sense. And I
Speaker 1: go back to that Mike McCarthy that gets Detroit. You're
Speaker 1: getting down there, you're inside the five. You can't you
Speaker 1: can't get the momentum you want they're about to go
Speaker 1: for it. McCarthy calls a field goal. No, no, Sid
Speaker 1: maher out there. If you were watching the game, you
Speaker 1: saw the Lions had a bye week off. These guys
Speaker 1: fired up, they're ready to go. They're here in Jerry world. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're ready. Man. You need to go ahead.
Speaker 1: Just tie this thing up, kick it off, let your defense,
Speaker 1: Let your defense go out here. Play it's you don't
Speaker 1: have to start going for things in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: I'm watching this and I'm shaking. I was watching the
Speaker 1: TCU game. I was at the TCU game on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting around here. It's a it's another fourth
Speaker 1: down inside the twenty. Now we're going for it. Kick
Speaker 1: the field goal. Points, take the points. Take the point.
Speaker 1: It's a long game, especially if you like your defense.
Speaker 1: Go out there, man, get some points to go. For
Speaker 1: the life of me, I do not understand this desire
Speaker 1: too too. And then they want to blame it on analytics.
Speaker 1: By the way, now, if i'm if, i'm if I'm
Speaker 1: in ball there, I mean, and I don't get don't
Speaker 1: putting that on. That's the guys in PF. I can't stand.
Speaker 1: Don't put that on there some people that live by PF.
Speaker 1: You know, I guess in a lot of in my
Speaker 1: stance on PF is people always use it when they
Speaker 1: want to win an argument, you know. And then PF
Speaker 1: Pro Foot Focus said, you know, but sometimes the numbers
Speaker 1: are skewed and they don't make any any sense from
Speaker 1: an eyeballs perspective. You know, when you start talking about uh,
Speaker 1: Zeke's passing his his grade in blocking, he's failing. Like
Speaker 1: everybody knows, Zeke is saving the game with with his
Speaker 1: with this blocking, you know, but PFF says he's poor.
Speaker 1: Once again. Argue with with Rob Parker and Chris Passard
Speaker 1: over at Fix Sports Radio about how they feel like
Speaker 1: the carries need to be be distributed more towards Trony Pollard,
Speaker 1: and I bring up you know the pass pro ain't good, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gonna get that killed right right? What you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: They put into account like Zeke running the football, wearing
Speaker 1: a defense down, like Tony Pollard coming in their fresh legs,
Speaker 1: hitting a hole at one hundred miles an hour, when
Speaker 1: the defense was used to hitting the hole with Zeke
Speaker 1: was coming in at eighty miles. And now they don't
Speaker 1: put that into any They just see these explosive players
Speaker 1: and like that guy is better. Nah, that is a
Speaker 1: whole thing that comes into it. And thank god I
Speaker 1: believe that that Mike McCarthy doesn't buy into that narrative.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's you talking about somebody that's
Speaker 1: not listening to the outside noise. It has to be him,
Speaker 1: because every week the narrative changes from Cooper Rush needs
Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: Whoa Tony Pollard fucking zeke. You know he first got here.
Speaker 1: I think he was absolutely I think he was. I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to, oh, let me change on
Speaker 1: this and that and that. Um, you know what, common
Speaker 1: sense works. I go back into this. Brian day Ball
Speaker 1: is doing a really good job with the Giants because
Speaker 1: he doesn't do dumb things. He actually his off the
Speaker 1: Belichick tree. You know what, I'll let you guys beat
Speaker 1: yourselves and a lot of the ways. So when you
Speaker 1: have these coaches who want to go for it on
Speaker 1: fourth and four, want to skip field goals, you're just
Speaker 1: hurting yourself. Day Ball knows his team is limited and
Speaker 1: they've got some warts here and there. Put man he's
Speaker 1: just they're playing. They know who they are. They play sound,
Speaker 1: fundamental football, and you know what, they're gonna let you
Speaker 1: do something dumb, and they're winning games. Bill Belichick has
Speaker 1: won three super Bowls because the other dudes did something dumb.
Speaker 1: Mart's decided not to run Marshall Falk even though he's
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year, lost the game. Then you
Speaker 1: watch ups they watch, Hey, we're gonna let Russ cook
Speaker 1: blust Russ through an interception in the one yard line.
Speaker 1: Belichick super Bowl twenty eight to three. Out our guy,
Speaker 1: Dan quit that Kyle Santahan wants to sit around here
Speaker 1: and throw and be aggressive. We didn't need to three
Speaker 1: super Bowls based on you know what, I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you guys go beat yourselves. Mike McCarthy realize he's got
Speaker 1: a good defense, and you heard him come out there
Speaker 1: the presscotts a couple of years ago. Hey we're defensive.
Speaker 1: We are a defensive football team, and this is the
Speaker 1: way I want to play and they're living up to it.
Speaker 1: So going back into Zeke and Tony Pollard, this plays
Speaker 1: into what they want to do. You've got a good defense,
Speaker 1: don't leave him out there for forty minutes. No, don't
Speaker 1: do that. And so by the way, Zeke Ellik not
Speaker 1: practicing today, they're going to see how he progresses during
Speaker 1: the week. I was in the locker room and Zeke
Speaker 1: spoke about how you know, we go see where it goes.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting one do you play this week? Are
Speaker 1: you same from Minnesota? Depends on how bad that injury is,
Speaker 1: right depending on where you're at here. If it comes close, okay,
Speaker 1: if it gets down and it's close, do you say, hey,
Speaker 1: take the week off? Leek Davis, sh up here one
Speaker 1: more time, Tony Poller, let's go ahead get this thing done.
Speaker 1: You know? Do you do that? So you could because
Speaker 1: he spoke about we want Zeke fresh, we want it
Speaker 1: for the end of the year. Is this another So
Speaker 1: now you're giving this guy three weeks off and then
Speaker 1: you try and getting ready for Minnesota? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just the thought process. Is this a tease? Are you
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to when I board the playing the
Speaker 1: Saturday at Green Bay on American Airlines. If they got dear,
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Speaker 1: You staying the good graces for the team bridges little
Speaker 1: experience any of that here, heckman, But hey, I'm happy
Speaker 1: for you, Church. I appreciate it, man. So hopefully you
Speaker 1: get to light up the tree when they do that
Speaker 1: that Christmas extravaganza here um so Mali Cooker, Saint Williams.
Speaker 1: They spoke in the immedia session today. Both men said
Speaker 1: that there they they're they're gonna be good to go.
Speaker 1: Hamstrings or what they've been dealing with. So they'll both
Speaker 1: be good to go to travel right on up to
Speaker 1: Green Bay. And if this defense is healthy, they can
Speaker 1: make life tough. I saw Bakti when the offensive other
Speaker 1: their best officive lime in the past the past five years.
Speaker 1: He left the game. There's no excuse at this point
Speaker 1: time not to go out there and get it up.
Speaker 1: You cannot fall in the trap for this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's tough and Green Band they're
Speaker 1: trying to throw back there touchdown passes against the What
Speaker 1: are you doing man? And Aaron Rodgers he throws three interceptions,
Speaker 1: one off the top of somebody's head that just bounced
Speaker 1: up in the air. I'm like the guys struggling. But
Speaker 1: Green Bay's problem was they thought, all right, if we
Speaker 1: can get Aaron Rodgers, that solves everything. We were good,
Speaker 1: that's all we needed a quarterback. You know, we can
Speaker 1: throw five guys in from New hampstrat receiver and we'll
Speaker 1: be good because we had Aaron Rodgers. Right, That's just
Speaker 1: not the case this year. I mean, when it goes,
Speaker 1: it goes both ways. Man. With that and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has for years been able to do more with less.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's not take away the fact that
Speaker 1: he had one of the best He had DeVante, which
Speaker 1: obviously he cultivated into one of the best wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. But when they had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to make that team better, they went out got
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, it's not and he's made and
Speaker 1: he's made life a living hell for them ever since
Speaker 1: they did that. And then they went out and gave
Speaker 1: him this big they gave him this big contract, and
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's actually crying for Green Bay. And
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers brings a lot of this pressure on itself
Speaker 1: with some of the things that he says off of
Speaker 1: the field, and it's it's the it's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff with him right now. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you cannot deny the talent that he has. You can't
Speaker 1: deny some of the numbers that he has. But it
Speaker 1: just up to me out man being as elite as
Speaker 1: he's always been. He only has one super Bowl and
Speaker 1: I don't let people know how hard it is to
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. But I think, as to your
Speaker 1: point about this defense, they've got to be in a
Speaker 1: situation right now where they can't wait to get to
Speaker 1: Green Bay. It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: defensive game, and as you talk about, is you know,
Speaker 1: what is the probability of whether Zeke is gonna play
Speaker 1: or not. This offensive line has got to feel good
Speaker 1: about this game, like, Hey, they're gonna put it on
Speaker 1: our back, you know, and hey, we can rock this
Speaker 1: thing out. And they went up against a pretty formidable
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears defense, and hey they may wait. Cowboys five
Speaker 1: point favorites in this one, and Cowboys are six and two,
Speaker 1: So they win this game, they go to seven and two,
Speaker 1: and then they would travel two Minnesota to face the Vikings.
Speaker 1: The Vikings are seven and one right now they are
Speaker 1: traveling to six and two. Buffalo Bills are seven point
Speaker 1: favorites Stachard Park, New York. Yeah, surprise even Alan, you know,
Speaker 1: looking like he might be a little injured. What then
Speaker 1: you played the game coming off coming off a loss
Speaker 1: like that, and you back and home. I told you
Speaker 1: about that, Pixie does, I told, I told you so.
Speaker 1: We couldn't be seeing a seven and two Vikings team.
Speaker 1: It gets the possible seven and two Cowboys team one
Speaker 1: right now, they got some swag. I'm taking the I'm
Speaker 1: taking the Bills to win this one at home after
Speaker 1: that embarrassing loss that they had to the Jets. I'm
Speaker 1: expecting the Bills to Vegas got him seven point favorites, man,
Speaker 1: I expect the Bills win this game. The points on Minnesota, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: the struggling against Washington, bro I don't know, man, that's
Speaker 1: at Washington's Washington, you know, I don't know. Man. The
Speaker 1: Jets just beat the Bills Division game. Who's that quarterback?
Speaker 1: Zach I like people's mims Zack Wilson. Yeah, that guy
Speaker 1: Many went out beating withoutout who they got, right, I
Speaker 1: call him Stiffler. Stiffler from American five. Don't don't let
Speaker 1: your moms go around. My man got Stiffler quarterback and
Speaker 1: Jets he beat them, beat them. Like I said after that,
Speaker 1: I mean, Mary, you played in this league. When you
Speaker 1: go out there and you go win, to lose a
Speaker 1: game like this, as you looked on this the next
Speaker 1: week and you're back at home, maybe we need to
Speaker 1: That's when the good team, everybody looking at it, get
Speaker 1: your stuff straight and stop playing around. Stop trying to
Speaker 1: take these folks advantage. You know, Minnesota gonna come in here.
Speaker 1: They got a dog on primetime receiver, they got a
Speaker 1: run game. Don't mess up, get your get your mind right.
Speaker 1: I mean Vegas got Hi miss a seven time. That
Speaker 1: was surprised to me. Vegas don't miss too often. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm very anxious about that because I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want you overlook green Bay, but you got
Speaker 1: a bye week. Mike's got a really good record at
Speaker 1: the bye week. I forgot to bring my notes on that.
Speaker 1: But he's got a good record after bye week. So
Speaker 1: I'm expecting them to go get this dub. The guys
Speaker 1: in the locker room, uh, have all spoken about wanting
Speaker 1: to to to win for for McCarthy this week and
Speaker 1: he and yeah, man, I just feel like they handled this.
Speaker 1: And then, hey, Minnesota Cowboys. I know Cooper Russian now
Speaker 1: playing last year Cooper rush game, that work on Halloween,
Speaker 1: handled his business good. So I'm gonna mess with Dak
Speaker 1: a little day. Can you do what Cooper did last year?
Speaker 1: Yes he did, Yes, he did, Yes he did so
Speaker 1: and Dak, by the way, it was in the locker room,
Speaker 1: just chilling, having a good time. Um, you can see
Speaker 1: why he's so likable. But but I think Cowboy fans
Speaker 1: should feel good where things are at right now, and
Speaker 1: they should have a strong November. Okay, you got you
Speaker 1: got green Bay, got Minnesota, then you got the Giants
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving Day, and then the Colts. You know these
Speaker 1: are well that's that's December, right, But the first first
Speaker 1: week December and for years December was like, oh oh,
Speaker 1: it's December. It's been a problem. So so you were
Speaker 1: now in some games here where you should be favored
Speaker 1: in all of them. Maybe not in Minnesota, but even
Speaker 1: if it is, it'll be what three we'll get any
Speaker 1: more three times? But I gotta ask you, guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got an opportunity obviously no Cowboy football on this weekend,
Speaker 1: just to look at other teams around the NFL. Did
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, just looking at these NFC teams,
Speaker 1: this thing is wide open. It's wide open. You gotta
Speaker 1: feel good. The Cowboys have got to feel good about
Speaker 1: where they are right now. Six and you're looking at it.
Speaker 1: What offense out there is scaring this defense? And I'm
Speaker 1: not and I'm not not even enough to think that
Speaker 1: teams are ripened yet. I think there's still gonna be
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before you see like, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: they got that. You know, guys are coming back from
Speaker 1: injury or whatnot. But still, I just nobody in the
Speaker 1: league right now to mind to what from what I've
Speaker 1: seen that I said, oh man, with that's we can't
Speaker 1: beat that stef for y'all, other boys se for y'all
Speaker 1: other boys. We're talking about the next episode, We'll die boys.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, did love you bad? Next episode we
Speaker 1: will decide, We'll decide if Beckham Junior can be that song. Well,
Speaker 1: on the next episode, we will decide if Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: Junior can be that that man you've been, you've been,
Speaker 1: you've been Scarthe McCarthy spoke about him today, Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: So we'll dive in. We'll dive into it. I can't
Speaker 1: believe Harrison Barry Church and it's been the players last.
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