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Speaker 3: Emily Abadi here coming to you from the Age Studio.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect

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Speaker 2: We all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through.

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Speaker 3: These discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 3: She's an endurance athlete and amputee who recently did something

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Speaker 3: First and foremost, when you had this bulge develop on

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Speaker 1: And that's what I always say to everyone. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's just accepting what has happened.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been here if they hadn't amputated my leg.

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Speaker 2: Right, right. And so you were twenty six when this happened.

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Speaker 1: It was and it's and what's amazing is my kids

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Speaker 3: A beautiful lesson for them, like to see all different

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is it's a tedious process when

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Speaker 1: It's just it's such a like my brain took a

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and that's why I'm I'm pushing I'm getting my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people buy like treadmills all the time and then

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Speaker 1: One of those things. My husband's like, you better like

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Speaker 3: I should be using for this a running blade?

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00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 2: It's a running prosthetic, okay?

436
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: Would you say that this is more comfortable than perhaps

437
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: your every day or it's just a different feeling.

438
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: It's a different feeling, like my every day is great.

439
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: Like the running blade is really hard to walk in,

440
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 1: so like it's it's just different because the walk the

441
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: walking processus has a foot on it, like a proper foot,

442
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: So it's just it's good. It's created for that. Where

443
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: it's a running blade, it's a little bit more springy

444
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: and it's made for running, so it kind of pushes you.

445
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: It kind of just helps with that momentum of your

446
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: your missing ankle, so it just kind of helps your movement.

447
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: So when you're walking in it, it's not designed for that,

448
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: so it kind of makes it a little bit more uncomfortable.

449
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

450
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: Wow, that's so it's so interesting because I mean, one

451
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: would think like, oh, it must be more flexible, it

452
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: must be more comfortable to use regularly, but that's well.

453
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's probably because it is more flexible.

454
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: It just kind of it It's weird because when you stand,

455
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: it kind of pushes your stump a little bit more forward,

456
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So it's it's definitely more flexible,

457
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: but when you're trying walk in that, it just makes

458
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: it more uncomfortable. It's weird, but it's it's yeah, it's

459
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: it's great because it's it's quite lightweight, so it just

460
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: it just makes running a lot more comfortable.

461
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: So when you started using your running prosthetic, did you

462
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: feel excited?

463
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: Did you feel dread? Did you feel like, Wow, it's

464
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: going to take me some time to get used to that.

465
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: I felt the first time I ran with it, I

466
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: felt like I was flying. It was the weirdest sensation.

467
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: But then also I was a little on us because

468
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing. They the process is hilarious because

469
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: you get you get casted for this prosthetic and then

470
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: they put the foot on. When you get your final

471
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: like they give you a test socket and then they

472
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: had it to you and then they go, well there

473
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: you go off you go go run and it's like,

474
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: wait a minute, how do I do this? So you

475
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: have to figure that out because it's it's kind of

476
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: like going out if you went for a run and

477
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: you had your eyes closed. It's kind of that same feeling.

478
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: It's because you're running on something that your brain hasn't

479
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: picked up yet, so you're kind of nervous, like to

480
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: put all your weight on it. And for me, that

481
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: that's part took a long time because I had to

482
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: develop those muscles and develop a relationship between my brain

483
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: and the prosthetic just to kind of get that rhythm,

484
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: going to fix up my stride because my stride was

485
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: awful in the beginning because it just wasn't It just

486
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: didn't feel normal. It just didn't feel right, and it

487
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: was like weird. But yeah, it just takes some time

488
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: and then you kind of get used to it and

489
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: your brain kind of like picks up a little bit

490
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, okay, we can trust this, we

491
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: can trust this weird thing.

492
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what about the cardiovascular side of things. I mean,

493
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: to go from not running to running in itself for

494
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 3: anyone prosthetic or not, amputy or not is not no.

495
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: Because my first five k I thought I was going

496
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: to die. I was like, what did I get myself into?

497
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: And then I'm thinking, oh, I sent ten thousand dollars

498
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: on this blade. I better like it. I better kind

499
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: of keep going at it.

500
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So it was challenging.

501
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was great because it was a

502
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: great challenge and I think it Yeah, it was just

503
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: it kind of even though it was really hard, I

504
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: just felt like I was doing something I thought would

505
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: be impossible, and there's there's something with that. It just

506
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: gives you a new motivation and it just kind of

507
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: and yes, even though I've kind of gone from that

508
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: five ks two one hundred and doing this hundred, I've

509
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: had days where I'm like I don't want to run.

510
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: I hate the sport. And I mean we all go

511
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: through that because it just it gets I mean, running

512
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: is not easy. It is a tough sport to get into,

513
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: but it has so much good that you kind of

514
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: stick with that and it's just, yeah, I love it.

515
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 3: So then, what has been the evolution of trying to

516
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: get through the five k to actually really falling in

517
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: love with this thing and talking about it with this

518
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: fondness that you reflect on it so much with now?

519
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, at some point, it just clicked. And that's

520
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: why I always I always say to anyone that kind

521
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: of wants to start running, is don't judge your run

522
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: by your first the first try, because guaranteed most runners

523
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: didn't love it from the beginning. Is kind of It's

524
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: kind of one of those things where you just a

525
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: few runs in and then suddenly somewhere it just clicks

526
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my goodness, this is just amazing.

527
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: I love the sport and you just kind of get

528
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: in and for me, it kind of clicked. And then

529
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: I just started kind of upping distances and just kind

530
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: of just pushing more boundaries, and I'm like, wow, this

531
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: is incredible. I can do really really hard things and

532
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: just like kind of just carried on with it.

533
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: Just kind of carried out carried on.

534
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: I do feel as though that app lesson is certainly

535
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: applicable to so many things.

536
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: Right.

537
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: There are so many things that we put our effort

538
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: to into one day or another, and on that one

539
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: particular day it could feel completely wonky and just not

540
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: like we are, you know, have any substance in our life.

541
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: And then the next day it just you have just

542
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: that one good moment that reminds you of what you're capable.

543
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Of exactly exactly. And I think too often we give

544
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: up on ourselves too quickly, and it's just if we

545
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: just kept at things and just kind of tried one

546
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: more time, you surprise yourself.

547
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know what's going to happen with that

548
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: one time.

549
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: So talk to me then about your first ever marathon.

550
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: My first ever marathon was Chicago actually in twenty seventeen. Yeah,

551
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: that was that was I was quite a mess.

552
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: Divine mess, Jackie.

553
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it was just like I couldn't wait to get

554
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: to the finish line. I was like, oh my goodness,

555
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: I need to get done now. I mean, to be honest,

556
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: go going into it, I hadn't. I hadn't really trained

557
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: them much as I should have done. Probably if I'm

558
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: totally honest with myself, but I still smile when I

559
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: think about Chicago Marathon, just because even though it was hard,

560
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: it was just the atmosphere of the crowd. It was like, Wow,

561
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: it was just incredible. It definitely is, and probably because

562
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: it was my first, it is one of my favorite

563
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: marathons that I kind of just remember and yeah, it

564
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: was just it was just an amazing experience.

565
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: And did you feel as though you were hooked from

566
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: that point on or did you think when you finished

567
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: that you may never do one again?

568
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: I probably I remember saying when I crossed the finish

569
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: line doing this again, and then ten minutes later I

570
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: was like, oh, heck, sign me up again.

571
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: And then, of course, fast forward five years and here

572
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: we are. So now let's segue into the conception of

573
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: this crazy idea.

574
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: Where were you, where were you sitting? Who were you

575
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: with when you.

576
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: Said I have this thought about this thing.

577
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember when I broke the news to my husband,

578
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: He's like, wait, what what are you going to do again?

579
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: And he rolled his eyes at me. It came kind

580
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: of put on a post through social media, as it does,

581
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: and that someone had done ninety five consecutive days, and

582
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: it was they said this, yeah, and it was just

583
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: like and I looked at that and I thought, oh,

584
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: my goodness, that looks amazing. I'm like, I wonder if

585
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: I could, as an mputee, if I'd be able to

586
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: take that on. Because I was looking at stupidly, I

587
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, what's going to be my next challenge,

588
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: not as if anything else I'm doing was hard enough.

589
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, let's see how much more

590
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: can I push myself. And then this came up, and

591
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: I was like it would be really good. Like they

592
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: finished on ninety five and I was like, no, why

593
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: didn't you finish on one hundred? It's just five more.

594
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe. I was like, thinking, it's only five more,

595
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: and so I kind of just like that's how it went.

596
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: And I just told my husband, oh wow, I saw

597
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: this ninety five consecutive marathons. I'm going to go after it.

598
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to

599
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: do one hundred and I've applied. I've applied to take

600
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: it on, so I'm going to start on this day.

601
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: I had already worked it all out and I'm like, oh, yeah,

602
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: do you mind, I'm going to do this. He's like,

603
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: wait what?

604
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: And this became your full time job, like you're not

605
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: working nine to five and then also finding time drawing

606
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: a marathon.

607
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: No, this this became my main job. I mean I

608
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: do coaching on this. I kind of do coaching and stuff.

609
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: But that kind of took a bit of a backstep

610
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: just so I could focus on this because it was

611
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: weird because you're doing them something but their normal life,

612
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: like my kids had to go to school, my kids

613
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: had to do homework, you need to cook dinner, and

614
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: and it's like everything kind of kind of blurred into

615
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: one a little bit because we had to still normal

616
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: life was still going on.

617
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: How many marathons?

618
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: Aden?

619
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: Did you have your first thought? Am I actually going

620
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: to keep doing this? I?

621
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: I yeah. I kind of had like a mixed mixed

622
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: emotions because when I started, I didn't know how far

623
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: it would get. Then I thought, you know what, I

624
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: might actually only make it to thirty because there were

625
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: so many factors I had to think about running with

626
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: a blade, like, yeah, is my stump My biggest concern was,

627
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: is my stump actually gonna hold up? Because it's because

628
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: my stump is really bony, and it's like I always

629
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: get issues with my tibia and a lot of swelling

630
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: and things like that. So there was like all these

631
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: unknown factors. Like going into it, I was like, well,

632
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: we'll see, maybe maybe my blade snaps when I get

633
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: to city, my city marathon. You just didn't know. So

634
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: when I got to when I actually got to thirty five,

635
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, Okay, I'm actually maybe

636
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna do this. It's kind of like, okay, I've got

637
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: this far. Now I can kind of just keep pushing

638
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: through and just kind of keep going. And then I

639
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: had like I got to fifty and I had this

640
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: whole total breakdown. I was like, you know what, And

641
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: it's weird because I actually posted about that because it

642
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: was I was tired and my brain like, it's weird.

643
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: How what I've learned with this whole process is how

644
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: powerful your mind is. And my mind started telling me

645
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: is like, you know what, fifty is a good distance.

646
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Don't overdo it. You're fine. You like fifty, no one

647
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: will say anything fifty marathons, fifty days is fantastic. And

648
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: it's just like I had to fight through that. I'm like, no,

649
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like, I'm like, physically, I feel absolutely fine.

650
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: If I quit now, I'm gonna be really really disappointed

651
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: in myself, especially because if if I haven't broken my

652
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,000
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653
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654
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655
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656
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,240
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657
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Speaker 3: How did you feel on day number one when you

698
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: shared your goal with the world scared? I was actually

699
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: really impressed that you stepped outside of your comfort zone

700
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: that early, Like you made the announcement and you were like,

701
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Speaker 3: I'm in because it could have been.

702
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: Super simple for you to just start this.

703
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: And see how it fell and then tell the world.

704
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Speaker 1: It's kind of the whole thing accountability, I guess a

705
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: little bit. Because you tell the world, oh, I'm doing this,

706
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: and there is a bit of a responsibility. You then

707
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: feel like, well, I've put it all out there, I

708
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: can't fail now kind of thing. But it's really really

709
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: scary to put yourself out there. But I always teach

710
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: my kids that, you know what, it's okay to fail. Fail.

711
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: A failure doesn't mean that it's the end of it.

712
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: What means is that the best thing is that you

713
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: tried and you gave it a shot. And I just

714
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: feel like that is just a lot of us. A

715
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: lot of the times people don't try things because they're

716
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: more scared of the failure than giving it a try.

717
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: And I've learned the most out of Like when I've

718
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: failed at a race and I say fail, for me,

719
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: it's never been a failure. It's always a lesson. I've

720
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: always learned something Like if I haven't had finished a race,

721
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: I've learned and I'm like, Okay, well next time, I

722
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: can do things better. And this is what So I

723
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: deliberately kind of put myself out there because yeah, I

724
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: could fail big time and it would be like it

725
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: would be partly embarrassing, but it's also you know what,

726
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: this is who I am, and sometimes things don't go

727
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: your way and it's okay, then you pick yourself up

728
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: and you try again.

729
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate that mentality for sure.

730
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Speaker 3: You know, it's definitely a theme that we talk a

731
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: lot about here on Hurdle. And for you to know

732
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: that this could go so many different directions and that

733
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: whatever direction that it went in would be one that

734
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: you could learn from, that's really really valuable.

735
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely super valuable.

736
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: So you talked about getting to these like little benchmarks

737
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: along the way that kind of instilled confidence that.

738
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: You could keep going.

739
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: But I'm sure that did not mean that you didn't

740
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: face your fair share of hurdles on your journey. So

741
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: when you reflect on that period of time and you

742
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: think about those one hundred and four marathons, what would

743
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: you say were some of the biggest hurdles that you

744
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: face along the way.

745
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: I think it was it was emotional, Like I remember

746
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: at one point I kind of like some of the

747
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: runs were just hard. They were really really hard. Like

748
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: you get up and you were like your mind is

749
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: like I'm tired. My body is tight, and it's like

750
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: my muscles are all tight, and it's like, oh my goodness,

751
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: I need to run another marathon, as like how am

752
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: I going to get through this? And then you start

753
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: and things just don't feel nice. It's like this is

754
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: really hard and you're just kind of finding like the

755
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: emotions and the one particular runner it was a hard

756
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: run and it's like I would stop at mile five

757
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: and I was like I kind of sat down. I

758
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: was like I don't think I can do this, and yeah,

759
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: this is like really hard. I'm like I'm just not

760
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: because you get those runs where you go out and

761
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: you're just not feeling it. It's just like this is

762
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: just your strides off, everything's just not jelling, and it's

763
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: just like but then I kind of I've learned now,

764
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: and I think with this whole process, it's really built

765
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Speaker 1: mental strength. So I'm so grateful that I did go

766
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: down this journey because it's kind of one of those

767
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: things where I had to learn and say, Okay, it's okay,

768
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Speaker 1: just focus on the next mile. And that's what I

769
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Speaker 1: did with a lot of the runs when they were

770
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Speaker 1: really really hard. I just focus on the next mile

771
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Speaker 1: and then get to the mile, celebrate that mile, you know,

772
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Speaker 1: just like because I think a lot of the times

773
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Speaker 1: when we when we're doing hard things, we forget to

774
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Speaker 1: celebrate and we forget to like pat ourselves on the

775
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: back because you did a great job, you phenomen just

776
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: keep going. And so that's what I did, and it's

777
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: just like I just kind of just every step of

778
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Speaker 1: the just kind of one step at a time, just

779
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: kind of get and then before you know it, you're like, ad,

780
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: you've done the distance, and it's like heck, yeah, I

781
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: thought through that. And then it's kind of weird because

782
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: then you feel you feel really great about yourself, like

783
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: you forget about the good runs. You like, you know

784
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: what I crushed a bad run. I totally crushed the

785
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: bad run.

786
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

787
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

788
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: They always say that you learn more from your failures

789
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: and the hard times than you do from the big

790
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: moments of celebration and success.

791
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, waking up.

792
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: Everyday groundhogs day running for something like five hours, would

793
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: you say, Yeah, was there any single marathon effort that

794
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: you literally asked yourself, am I going to be able

795
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: to finish this?

796
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it was probably well at like number

797
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Speaker 1: eighty or something like that. And it's weird because it's

798
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: it's like you're so close, but yet you're still so far.

799
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: And it's like because like people are like, oh, yes, eighty,

800
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: you've only got like twenty at the time, I was

801
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: only going for one hundred, You've only got like, you've

802
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: only got twenty left, And it's like, no, you do

803
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: realize how much work that is. Kind of you you

804
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: become overwhelmed with her and you're like, I'm just so

805
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: tired you you can't see stray and and so I yeah,

806
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: I had to kind of fight through those like really

807
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: really hard times just to kind of keep going. But

808
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: then you focus on the bigger picture and you're like, well,

809
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: if you quit now you're going to be so disappointed

810
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: because you you are that close, and it's like you

811
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: kind of try and change the wording and just kind

812
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: of try and change your mindset a little bit.

813
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: I remember and escapes me when this was.

814
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: But there was one day that you ran to.

815
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: Told me, remind me, yeah, that was number thirty five.

816
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: Of course it was, Yeah, it was.

817
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: It was. It was a weird thing. And it's like,

818
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm who knows because the rules, the rules aren't like

819
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: totally black and white, and it's like it's open for interpretation.

820
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: And I had signed up, I was actually going to

821
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: do a race that day, and I had signed up

822
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: for a marathon, but with childcare with my kiddos and stuff,

823
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: I changed it. I changed it to the half. So

824
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, it'd be fine. I'll do

825
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: the half and then I'll come and check and make

826
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: sure my kids are okay, and then I'll do the

827
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: other half. I know it. It doesn't It definitely doesn't

828
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: say that you can't kind of split it. And that

829
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: was the first time I had ever done that. Like

830
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: I've always like gone out and just did everything a

831
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: marathon and it was just like this, I was like well,

832
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: there's nothing else I can do right now, so I'm

833
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: just going to have to do that and just hopefully

834
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: and obviously being on social media and being open, you're

835
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: always going to be open for criticism, which was fine,

836
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: and a few people kind of came back and said,

837
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: well that didn't count then, and I was like part

838
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: of me and a lot of people so then said

839
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have cared because it did count, and I'm like, yeah,

840
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: but I'm not one hundred percent sure. And it's like

841
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: when you're doing something like this, if you get to

842
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: the end and then you have to submit all your

843
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: data and stuff, and then they're going to come back

844
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: and say, well, actually thirty five didn't count, so then

845
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: you'd feel bad because you'd like, oh, shoot, I should

846
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: have just so it was weird. I saw that. I'm like, right,

847
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna go do another one.

848
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: And I literally went out and ran a full marathon,

849
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: and I was like part of me was broken at

850
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: the end because I literally I think I made it

851
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: within six minutes of the time, because I had to

852
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: do it before twelve because you have to do it

853
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: within the twenty four hours, so that was counting against

854
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: me too, And yeah, it was hard because I hadn't

855
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: obviously not plan nutrition for running fifty miles. I mean

856
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: because when I when I do my ultras, I the

857
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: nutrition is a little bit different, like on the day

858
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because you just obviously you need

859
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: more calories and things. Yeah, so it kind of from there,

860
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: and it's like part of me couldn't believe I had

861
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: actually done it. A lot of I'm like, I'm like,

862
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: am I some kind of freak? I don't know, because

863
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: I kind of just got on with it and got

864
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: it done, and it was I think it was just

865
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: part of like, well, now this see I've done it

866
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: and it's correct and that's it. It's done, and dust

867
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: it because I don't I kind of want to do

868
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: things correctly and as it's probably I'm a bit of

869
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: a perfectionist. So I think that's probably my damfall too,

870
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: because most people wouldn't care. And then but the hard

871
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: thing was next two days because I had to kind

872
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: of catch up on calories because I had a bit

873
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: of a deficit. So the next two runs were really

874
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: really hard. And this whole process has taught me how

875
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: amazing our bodies are because it's like my body adapted again,

876
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: and it just kind of I was like, how am

877
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: I doing this? It's just like it's just kind of

878
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: just going and it just keeps going. And that's why

879
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm a very strong believer you. We're stronger than what

880
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: we think we are. It's normally our mindset hold us

881
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: back and it's just like this, Yeah and yeah.

882
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: Two follow up questions from that.

883
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: First of all, you mentioned how difficult it can be

884
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: at times to be open about your process. Now so

885
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: many people keeping up with you on social media. I

886
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 3: feel like anytime I look at one of your tweets,

887
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: like four thousand people have liked it.

888
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: Talk to me about that.

889
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: Talk to me about how that has been the adjustment

890
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: of opening yourself up to that criticism has been, and

891
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: how you navigate it on a daily basis.

892
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: To have so many people keeping up with you.

893
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: I try, and because it can. It's it's kind of

894
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: one of those things where you have a love hate

895
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: relationship with social media because it's it can be. It's

896
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: full of so much good and that's what I focus on,

897
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: and sometimes you kind of tend to like focus on

898
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: like the negative side of it a little bit too.

899
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Much sometimes And what I've done with this whole one

900
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: hundred and four is I have made an effort to

901
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: focus on the really good and that's what got me

902
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: through because the support has been phenomenal. It has been

903
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: absolutely and yes, it's scary. It is so scary to

904
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: like post like because I remember the first time I

905
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: ever did a tweet, I was like, what am I doing?

906
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: What do I write? And stuff? And now I just

907
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: kind of put it out there and I'm like, it's

908
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: scary because you're like, yeah, it's someone going to come

909
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: back and criticize me or someone going to say something,

910
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: and how do you deal with that? And it's like

911
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: you just learn to deal with it and you just

912
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: ignore the bad and you just focus on the good

913
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: because there is so much good out there. And it's

914
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: just I just I can never thank people enough for

915
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: the amount of sport I go with doing this. It's

916
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: just it's been phenomenal.

917
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: It blows my mind the end of it.

918
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: As that make it a priority and take the time

919
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: out of their day to bring somebody else down who

920
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: is clearly trying to do something so good. It's not

921
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: as though you were just going after this for the record. Like,

922
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 3: so much good came from this effort. It's acronomical.

923
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And that's I had the conversation actually with

924
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: my husband this morning. I'm like, even if someone else

925
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: goes off to the record, for me, it wasn't about

926
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: the record ever. It was like the record was a

927
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: nice thing, but I wanted to do good. I wanted

928
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: to show people that they can be stronger than what

929
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: they think they are and just and raise money. And

930
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: it's just the whole journey. And it's like, and I

931
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm not sure why people feel the

932
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: need to bring other people down because I grew up

933
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: saying wow, my parents were really really strict and they

934
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: always said, if you don't have anything good to say,

935
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: don't say it. So I'm like, that's how I that's

936
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: my motto if if if I see something I don't

937
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: agree with and that deep another person. Really that's what

938
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: they're I'm like, you know what, if I don't have

939
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: a good thing to say, I'm not going to say anything.

940
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: What's that saying.

941
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: It's like, this isn't an airport. You don't need to

942
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: like announce your departure.

943
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: Like just leave exactly, leave me alone, leave me alone.

944
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: Well, now let's fast forward a little bit to the

945
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: big moment finishing the final marathon. Now it goes it

946
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 3: needs to be said that you, along your journey find

947
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: out that there is another woman that is also taking

948
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: on a similar feat Kate Jaden, who ultimately what did

949
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: she run?

950
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: She ran one hundred and one marathon run one hundred

951
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: and one. Yeah, so you're on.

952
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: Marathon eighty six when you find out that she also

953
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: did something like this, did you like literally want.

954
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: To like, how did you feel?

955
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: I kind of I was a little show because I'm like,

956
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: I didn't think anyone else would be this crazy to

957
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: take it on, and I was like, what the hell.

958
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I was like, you know what,

959
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: a woman can be so freaking strong, and I'm like,

960
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: you know what, there is something to be said with that,

961
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like that's amazing. That just pushes me a

962
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: little bit more. And then I was like, oh, yeah,

963
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, I just changed my goal. Now it's like

964
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and two before, So.

965
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: When did you decide to go from one hundred and

966
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: two to one hundred and four.

967
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: Oh? That was like, I think like the week before

968
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: or something, because I looked at the dates, and I

969
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, wow, I might as well end April

970
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: with the marathon because I'm like, because my one hundred

971
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: and two was the Thursday, so I was like, you

972
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: know what, I might as well do Friday and Saturday,

973
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: and then it just round it off. Wow.

974
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: Well, I saw the beautiful video of you finishing that

975
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: final marathon, super emotional, super special.

976
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: Talk to us about how that really felt for you.

977
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was just I think part of

978
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: the journey was just because the amount of support I

979
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: had received, and also that I wasn't I honestly when

980
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: I started, I wasn't. I didn't. There was there was

981
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: part of my mind that didn't think I'd make it

982
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: this far, just because of all the factors and stuff.

983
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: So I was like, I couldn't believe I'd done it.

984
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: I think I was a little bit surprised a little bit,

985
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: And it was just it was incredible, and it was

986
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: incredible having my family there, just because for them then

987
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: this has been really hard because a lot.

988
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: Of opportunity cost for everyone involved.

989
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: Exactly, and it was it was really like our family

990
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: life just took a backstep, and it was it was hard.

991
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: It was hard. For the kids, because the kids, like,

992
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: when I finished Numb one hundred and four, my son

993
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: was like, are you finished now, Mummy, And I'm like yes,

994
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: He's like yes finally, And I mean they're they're super

995
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: happy and super proud. They tell all their friends and

996
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: school and stuff. But I think for them it was

997
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: nice to kind of have a little bit more mummy time.

998
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: Did you face criticism about that?

999
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Actually, I know a lot of people were really supportive

1000
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: about that. They were more curious how I was kind

1001
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: of managing it all and stuff and I and I

1002
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: must say my husband, my husband was a rock star

1003
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: because he just really helped with the kids and stuff.

1004
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: I think I kind of feel bad for him because

1005
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: I think he was really stressed. Football buddy.

1006
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is coming out just over a

1007
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 3: week after you finishing your major beautiful feet.

1008
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: What's life like for you now?

1009
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: To be honest, I've been It's been a bit of

1010
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: a rollercoaster because I've been on like so many interviews

1011
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I'm like, ah, it's been a little

1012
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: bit overwhelming, but it's nice because I can, yeah, just

1013
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: spend some time with the kidders when they get home

1014
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: from school. And stuff, and it's not like, oh, mommy

1015
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: needs recovery and mommy needs to do this. I need

1016
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: to do this, so it's kind of they can kind

1017
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: of get a little bit more focused time with me. So, yeah,

1018
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: it's it's been good, but I'm itching to run again.

1019
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the R word recovery, something that I

1020
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: know that we should touch on before we continue here.

1021
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 3: I know you were big on epso celt baths. Also

1022
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: making sure that you were getting sleep. What else aside

1023
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: from that was a really big priority for you. Nutrition,

1024
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: I'm assuming yeah.

1025
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: Nutrition. I had to make sure I was eating the

1026
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: right stuff to recover, which was really bad. Which was

1027
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: really hard because in the beginning, I was just eating

1028
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: whatever I wanted to, Like I was Pizza's, doughnuts, whatever.

1029
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to kind of load up, and

1030
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: it's like I was cheating it, like as if I

1031
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: was doing one race. But then what I found was

1032
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: that my body wasn't recovering fast enough because I wasn't

1033
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: getting the nutrients that I needed. So I kind of

1034
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: had to switch it up a little bit and just

1035
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: make sure it was kind of a little bit more

1036
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: healthy and just getting more of a balanced diet. And

1037
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: then I was also making sure like I was rolling

1038
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: a lot, which, to be honest, like going into this,

1039
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: I was the worst with the recovery. I would never stretch,

1040
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: I would never roll. I'm like, yeah, I've got a roller,

1041
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: what do I do with it? I was just terrible,

1042
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: and I was like with this, I'm like, wow, if

1043
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: I want to get to the finish, I'm going to

1044
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: have to change my attitude with it a little bit.

1045
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: So I made sure like my stump, I was icing

1046
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: it every night just because of the swelling I was.

1047
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: I've got one of those message guns. I was using

1048
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: it all the time. So I had like like a

1049
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: little bit of a session like after I take a bus.

1050
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I just do all these things just to make sure

1051
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: my muscles just kind of had better way of recovering, right,

1052
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: all the maintenance.

1053
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: Now, you did put up a post the other day

1054
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: talking about this effort. By the numbers from one running

1055
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: blade to two hundred boiled potatoes, one hundred peanut butter

1056
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: and jelly sandwiches, giving a little bit of insight into

1057
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 3: your diet, which, as you noted, definitely evolved over time.

1058
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: I love the highlight of two hundred gummy worms, So

1059
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: where did the gummy worms come into play?

1060
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: And I'm also astounded by only twenty pizzas.

1061
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: I know, I had a few people say, what only

1062
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: twenty pizzas? And then I had some like you, actually,

1063
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: you mean twenty bags of gummy worms, right, not just

1064
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: like two or like two hundred bags of gummywims. I

1065
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: was like, uh yeaheah, I should have changed that a

1066
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I'm a big fan because I use

1067
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: gummy worms when I do ultras. It's just good because

1068
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: it gives you a quick shug of figs and stuff,

1069
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just nice to choose something else that

1070
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: is in gel and things like that. So yeah, it was.

1071
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: It was funny the comments that I got when I

1072
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: posted that.

1073
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: I loved it.

1074
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: I loved it, and I personally am a relatively new

1075
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: gummy worm enthusiast. So I feel like now I'm going

1076
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: to have to maybe start using them on my runs.

1077
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: I feel like when I started running, I was like

1078
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: really into like the energy choose because it did feel

1079
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: like you were getting like candy.

1080
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: On your way.

1081
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 3: But over time I have switched to like element packets

1082
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 3: and more in gels, and you know, less exciting.

1083
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and gummy worms a little bit cheaper too than

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00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: all the gels and stuff. So I'm like, you know why,

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: it's a win win because it's kind of does the

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00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: same thing. So I'm like, I'll just do gummy It's.

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Speaker 2: A win win.

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Speaker 3: Well, you are in, as you mentioned, this tailwind of

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00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: post accomplishment media and whatnot. But I do want to

1090
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: check in a little bit about how you're feeling emotionally.

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Speaker 3: You joked a little bit being a little anxious to run.

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Speaker 3: I would assume that accomplishing something like this is kind

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Speaker 3: of like it's momentous.

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Speaker 2: It's a life moment.

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00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: It's what some would liken too, maybe a wedding or

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00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 3: your graduate degree or having a child, Like it's big, right,

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Speaker 3: So do you feel as though you're on a little

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 3: bit of the come down now?

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Speaker 2: Like, how do you feel emotional?

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Speaker 1: I do. I do feel like I'm like I'm kind

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00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: of getting to the point that where I'm like, oh,

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00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: what's next, Cause it's like it's kind of like when

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: you've been like this has been life for like one

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00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: hundred and four days, and I've been like really open

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00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: on social media, posting every day, and it's like You're

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00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: getting like so many people interacting and stuff, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: now this is all going to die off, and it's

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Speaker 1: like what do I do next? So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like part of me you kind

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00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: of get addicted to that, like that sense of accomplishment,

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00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, now you need to kind of

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00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: fill it up with something else. What are you going

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00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: to do next? But I'm trying to be really really

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Speaker 1: careful because I again it's on the whole point of

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00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: that we often don't celebrate our accomplishments, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like with this one, I'm like, this is such a

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00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: big deal, Like it's not at all about the record.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just about the fact that I managed to

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Speaker 1: run one hundred and four marathons as an amputee and

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Speaker 1: the amount of lives that have changed and just highlighting

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Speaker 1: what amputies can do and stuff. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: that is a proud moment for me. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to I hope I'm not coming across arrogant or anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is just really important and so

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to celebrate that fact and just so it's

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00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: it is hard, it's hard because you are starting to

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00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: come down and you're like, oh, okay, now what am

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Speaker 1: I going to do? But I'm trying to be good

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Speaker 1: about it and just trying to celebrate the moments.

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Speaker 3: I've never run one hundred and four marathons in one

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00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 3: hundred and four days. I also like, haven't gotten married

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00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: or at a kid. But I have done things in

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00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: my life that have felt really important, so I can

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00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: sympathize with this like post big moment, and in my experience,

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00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: something that has helped me, especially when my accomplishments have

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00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: been athletic, have been kind of coming back to my

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00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: value as emily outside of being an athlete and outside

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: of being a runner. I mean, we hear all the

1139
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 3: time of these stories of athletes navigating depression, especially after

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00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: these big accomplishments, maybe something like the Olympics, And so

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00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: it is really important not only that you have this

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00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: frame of mind that you do right now finding that

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00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: those small winds and the glory in your day to day,

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00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: but also thinking long term about how Jackie is going

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00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: to keep showing up for herself beyond putting on that

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00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: running prosthetic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that is a very very bad point that

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00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: of course.

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Speaker 3: We would be we would be remiss if we didn't

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00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: highlight that you do have another race on your docket.

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: What are you happening at right now? Only two hundred

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00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: and forty miles. Two hundred and forty miles. Yeah, that's

1153
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: in October. It's still a long way away.

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00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: It is a long way away.

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00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: No, I start. I'm going to start training for that

1156
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: in two weeks time, just to get back because I

1157
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: need to get back on the trails because I haven't

1158
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: because this is a trail race two hundred and forty

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00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: I need to kind of and trail trail running on

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: a prosthetic just takes, so it's just a different style

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00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: of running. So I need to go out on the

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Speaker 1: trails and practice and just kind of get a lot

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00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: of hit more hills. Because I've been running with the marathons,

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00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: I've been running them quite flat just to get through them.

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited because it would be good to

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: kind of get out doing the race and just being

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00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: out there and just being in the mountains again and

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Speaker 1: just yeah, I love I love being out on the

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Speaker 1: trails and that's kind of where I find a very

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00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: therapeutic too. Is just like with this whole finding myself

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Speaker 1: and just cut going out there, going for a nice

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Speaker 1: hike and just kind of just being out there. It

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Speaker 1: just really helps.

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Speaker 3: When you first got your leg amputated, you said that

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Speaker 3: you struggled to find the beauty in yourself again. You

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00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: struggle to get over that mental hurdle. Now when you

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Speaker 3: look in the mirror, what do you see looking back

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Speaker 3: at you?

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Speaker 1: I see a strong, badass woman. Can I say that

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Speaker 1: about myself.

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00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: About yourself?

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00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: And do you feel did you feel that way before

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00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: this or do you really feel as though this feat

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: completely changed the way that you view yourself.

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Speaker 1: I think it has. It's blown my mind away that

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Speaker 1: I was able to do it. I'm like, hell, yeah

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00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: I can. I can do really hard things. And it's

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Speaker 1: just it just puts things in a total different perspective

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Speaker 1: and just like wow. It's just looking at your body

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00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: and going wow, just wow that you can, you can

1192
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: push yourself, and it's just yeah, that, yeah, that our

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00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: bodies are incredible, that we can we can do hard things.

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Speaker 3: What would you say during the one hundred and four

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Speaker 3: day period that the best piece of advice you were offered.

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Speaker 1: Was probably just take one day at a time. I

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00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: don't know. Yes, a few people I commented that they

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00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: were like, you know what, you're doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: Just take it one time, one day at a time.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I focused on, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: your your goals can be overwhelming. I feel like it's

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00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: sometimes when you set really big goals, it just can

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00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: feel like, oh my goodness, I'm never going to get there.

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00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: But if you just work on it every day and

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: just one step at a time, you eventually get there

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00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my goodness, look at that, I've

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00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: done it.

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Speaker 2: I've done it, I've done it.

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Speaker 3: Would you say that that's the biggest lesson that you

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00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: want people to walk away from watching and learning about

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Speaker 3: your story with absolutely final question, Jackie, right now, you

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Speaker 3: have an opportunity to offer.

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Speaker 2: Yourself a piece of advice.

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01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the Hurtle moment when you found

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: out that you were going to have to get your

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Speaker 3: leg amputated. You have an opportunity, with all the wisdom

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Speaker 3: that you have now to offer that woman had twenty

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Speaker 3: six a piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: What do you tell her?

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Speaker 1: I would tell her that take every day. It is

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: one step at a time, and you will be okay.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. That is my biggest things will

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: be okay because I feel like I just feel like

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01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: when you're going through something that big is it becomes

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01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: really dark and it's like you sometimes you feel like

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01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: you're drowning. You just can't see the end, like the

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01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: end inside, and it's just like and especially when you

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01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: get diagnosed with cancer, a lot of the times, it's like,

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to survive this. There is a part

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01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: of you that thinks, oh my goodness, it's cancer. I'm

1231
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: going to die. And it's like, no, that's not. It's

1232
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily a sentence. It is. There is hope, there

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01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: is it's gonna be okay if you just kind of

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01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: hold on to that.

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Speaker 2: So grateful for your time today, Jackie, So appreciative of

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Speaker 2: you sharing your.

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Speaker 3: Story with us. How do the hurdlers follow along with you?

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Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? If they don't

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01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: already give us the details that you can.

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Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter or Instagram and that's NC runner.

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01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: Jackie Beautiful.

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01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast and at Emily Abadi Another

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Speaker 3: Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.