WEBVTT - Conversations In Atlanta 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.480 What's up, And welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.560 Sellings Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:19.080 loaw glasses Malone, So Atlanta, I'm in Atlanta doing no Ceilings. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.000 Shout out to Charlotte Man, Shout out to Black Effect, 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:28.600 Shout out to iHeart. It's weird because I'm with EP. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.600 If you listen to my podcast, y'all know who EP is. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.800 We've talked about Irving Pope a lot of times. Really 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:40.400 fantastic producer, produced the whole cancel these nuts from wats 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.680 like Me you know, produced on the first you Know, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.599 played and produced on the first four four Kanye Records. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:51.560 UH produced on Doctor's Advocate. Executive produced Lax with Game, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:57.080 produced stuff for the latest Scarface stuff, UH Tech nine single, 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.640 really Dope dude, just really all around good dude. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.160 I got EP out here. EP talked to the people, say, man, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.720 what's good y'all? It's good at Yeah. Yeah. So this 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.480 kind of podcast, like right is my podcast. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.560 I don't really interview like it's I like to think 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:14.440 of my my people. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:15.920 That's really smart. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:20.160 The people who enjoy those singlings are like really really smart, 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.640 like because I'll be taking them through some shit this, 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:29.680 you know how I think he will have some crazy conversations. Yeah, 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.520 and it's just a normal thing, Like it's just what 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.479 we do, you know what I mean, it ain't really nothing. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.119 So it's odd because I got my man, what's my man? Aj? 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:39.559 So I met AJ before? 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.840 So AJ is following me around with a camera and 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.720 me and EP And it's so weird because and I 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.040 don't know if it's like this is probably a problem, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.080 like and for me as an entertainer, is I just 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.120 don't feel like my life is that interesting. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.120 Don't get me wrong, y'all. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.120 Know, walk in, talk to drag or walk in talk 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.760 to him, talk to Atoven. But is that really that 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.240 just little stuff like that. No, yeah, just the names 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:03.880 you just named. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:04.760 Yeah, But I I. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.799 Think I'm disconnected from like like. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:10.800 How people see things. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.800 Yeah, because you've already acquired the relationships and most people 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.880 dream of even seeing these type of people. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.600 But it's nothing to you because you're not doing it. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.959 For that reason, I can see, like if I was 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.360 swimming with sharks, that would be like a dopte behind 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.480 the scenes. AJ take his ass in that water and 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.200 them sharks swimming around Nigga, that that's something to be 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:36.079 behind the scenes. But imagine, imagine a little a little 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.440 aspiring rapper from somewhere that's a rural area who's never 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.240 even seen what looked like that's true, but I guess 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.000 I really don't. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.960 I don't know. I guess I just don't think the 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:50.800 general public. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.320 Like when I, like I was telling you, when I 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.400 grew up listening to hip hop, I never in my. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.720 Life care what Scarface did. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.040 Like I really thought Scarface did the same shit as me, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.480 Like he was on the block selling rocks, then he 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.919 went to the studio made his songs. It just don't 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.000 seem like that would be that interesting to me. But 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.880 it's grown to that because of the social media presence. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.680 Now everything like you, like you always say, everything is visual. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.359 It doesn't only pertain to the to the to the product, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.000 but the lifestyle too. I'm starting to think most people 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.800 just never sold rocks. So that's like fascinating. Yeah, you know, 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.480 it's like going to work. Yeah, you know what, we 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.839 need to set up something. I got an idea, aj cub, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.240 like we need to actually have you follow somebody that 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.600 work at Walmart and do it behind the scenes and 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.640 that's just their job, like they wake like a regular nigga, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.640 like take the mail out of his box, get a shower, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.080 get the cereal, go to his job at Walmart and 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.480 talk to people. I think that's more interesting the type 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:54.800 of motherfuckers. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.480 That walk in Walmart. Yeah, to you, that would be 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:01.920 like a nigga work at Walmart. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.160 Imagine the type of people customers, or like somebody that 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.280 work at rallies or what they call it checkers in 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:07.680 the South, rallies and checkers. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.760 That'd be a crazy job. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.680 You know what I'm saying that that'll be some crazy shit, Taylor, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.960 Like you just follow the day in the life of 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.600 a nigga at rallies or Checkers and he just back 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.440 there flipping burgers. You watching any flip Burgers? I bet 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.719 you people will watch it. Absolutely. I just think we 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:30.919 had a really weird juncture in society, like a really 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.880 weird where we just so disconnected out our own personal lives. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.839 Like all I ever thought about. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.159 When I was when I decided to be a rapper, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.880 was to like make the soundtrack to your life or 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.240 give you an escape to another life that you didn't 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:52.320 know existed. I never looked at it, cause like I 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.080 never looked at it like, uh oh yeah, this is 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.360 some kind of dream life. Like this shit has worked. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.200 We out and this motherfucker waking up the ship. We 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:03.919 got the voice here. We're gonna tell you who she is. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.440 She said, she don't want to be known, but her 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.040 voice is soul Tree. Come on, say something to the 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.359 voice soul Tree. This is not a lant so I 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.800 so no Seilans goes to everybody. You just in Atlanta. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:16.919 We're just in Atlanta. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:17.440 Low world. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:18.200 Yeah, there you go. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.760 No ceilings like I like I think I was. I've 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.200 been thinking about like a name for my audience. The 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.400 people that's with me, like to be Hive or the 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.160 Kins and Barbed Black, like I don't even know how 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.039 you want to be that, Like that's just weird, like 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.880 the kins in Barbie, Like it's some niggas that's infatuated 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:35.280 with kids. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.880 That's just weird. That that goes to my point earlier. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:39.680 What's your point. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.560 That people are infatuated of watching somebody else's life and 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.800 trying to get anything from them to. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.800 Apply to their life. Do you think it really is 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.240 about applying to their life though? 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.480 That's why that's why I watch certain people that I 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.360 that I admire that grind. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.320 I watched to see who they're talking to or what 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.920 they're doing, or are. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.680 They doing something different that I can apply to my 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.239 grind that to take me to the next level. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.680 So I hope that's why people was doing that. That's 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.960 why I do it. I don't think, I really I 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.720 don't know. I don't really ever watch anybody's. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.320 Like, but you know what that's true because I do 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.880 get the benefit. Like right now on our way over here, 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.919 I want to ask battle Cat, like what happened to that? 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.960 When I wake up song with Snooping Goldie that should 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.160 have been on the last meal and I just called 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.120 Cat and like I'll ask, like, hey, why that didn't 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.880 make the album? Listen to him tell the story, and 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.560 it's it's not to to to tell a story for 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:38.640 him to somebody else. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:39.479 It's just to know. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.279 I don't know the value of it. I've been talking 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.760 to shout out to the homies from the La Posse. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.000 They're all all of good muff, all the good brothers, but. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.760 Like listening to their stories, like I don't know what 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:55.720 it means. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:56.920 Just like when I talk. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.000 To Frigi Dre recipes from south Side and he told 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.560 me the whole thing that happened with poking them. I 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.279 didn't know the value of it, but I just listen 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.039 to people who've had other experiences, so it seemed like 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.040 better to me, Like if I would like if I 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.520 would talk to the camera and just talk about experiences, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.800 Like I think I'm more of an artist that's like 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.360 story timed with glasses more than like just follow me 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.240 around and like me going to the interview and you 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.560 listen to me talk. But I guess people are interested. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.240 Have you ever seen behind the Music? 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.280 No? Those those series that. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.200 I think they are MTV or something, Okay, Yeah, Essentially 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:35.320 what they're doing is telling stories about whatever particular project or. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.600 Their journey they might have one. They might have one 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.600 on the Earth, Wind and Fire or one on. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.760 Somebody my council. These nets make our own exactly. See, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.640 I just like produce content, you know what I mean? 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.720 I guess that's but that's how you get it because 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.760 you get behind the scene footage to add in the 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.480 b roll and stuff that makes what you're saying it, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.520 documents it, and it makes it authentic. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.040 I think you and I have had conversations on the 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.800 phone before where I wish it would have been on 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:02.400 the podcast. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.320 It was like, damn, this was good classes. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.120 Yeah, fucking voices, Tayler, this is the funny shit, right. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.160 So first off, no siilings, gl you know what I mean? 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:16.239 I got Mohammed ep we in Atlanta. Fellowshipping. Some people 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.960 call it promoting. We call it fellowship because we meet 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.920 other brothers and we politic and we build relationships and 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.080 we just happened to have dialect over cameras. But reality is, 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.880 when I came out here, I came to get closer 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.400 to Atlanta to get the feel. You know, we stayed 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.360 somewhere in the community, you know, I mean killer Mike 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.800 dropped and shout out to Mike. Los has been great 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.000 for me, Carlos Miller, Like, you know what I mean, people, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.160 I really genuinely like the guys. I feel like we 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.360 are kind of like the same type of brothers. I'm 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:48.040 sure there's some some significant differences, but we are kind 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.400 of the same. And I got the voice with me. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.880 She that's her name, the voice. Remember this, When you 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.120 ever hear her on those ceilings, it'll be the voice 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.280 and one day she may announce herself. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.640 Can I ask a question? 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.400 This is for you? 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:03.000 Yeah, so everybody says, if you're if you're one of 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.920 the OG's, you've been around for a while, why won't 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.240 you feature with a new artist right now in Atlanta? 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.280 Like if I could take you door to door right now, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.720 why would you? Is it a yay or name with who? 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:18.520 Like? 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.800 Like? How like anybody that's popping in Atlanta? 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.000 I love Rich homey Kwan. That's who I really want 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.679 to mine. Like, I'm okay, so I'm talking young rich 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:28.960 Homi Kwan is pretty. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.040 He's probably the last generation. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.520 Of guys because remember twenty twenty one. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.640 Ain't no rappers eighteen nineteen twenty from Atlanta right now 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.320 that we know about PZ not from I thought PZ 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:40.040 is from Detroit. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.600 Uh huh from Atlanta. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:43.400 He's out here now. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.080 Well originally PZ is Do you know you know PZ 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.360 is on and BP. I think he's from Detroit. Tyler, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:52.840 you can turn it on your mic too. On No 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.240 sailings the engineer talk sometimes. So if you need to, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.080 nobody gonna know, nobody gonna come find you later. But 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.720 jess O, kay I asked, you said, you know what, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:06.360 it's not age for me right, It's like I'm Hella, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.920 I genuinely believe when people listen to Glasses Malone they 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.680 want the West. Now, I don't mean that I can't 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.040 feature with artists from the Midwest, the Troitch, Chicago, Cleveland, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.240 artists from the South, Houston, Atlanta, New Orleans, Florida, or 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.040 the East right as any of these coast states. It's 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.000 not that I don't genuinely think I can't rap with 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.240 the younger. Oh, I think everybody can't rap over the 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:31.840 shit we do. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.280 So what about new production because you just got with 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.920 a Yeah. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.920 They can't rap over that because they when I came 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.320 to fuck with Aay. I've been building that relationship with 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.720 Zay for about a year or a year and a half. 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.280 Like I've been talking to say, I mean, I knew 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.440 Jay was forever, but I just never looked at it 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.760 like I didn't know how to use him. So for 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.800 years I would have never asked because I wouldn't have 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.679 wanted to rap over trap music because I understood since 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.560 probably two thousand, since twenty ten, people don't want to 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:07.520 hear Glasses Malone be nothing else but the la crip 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.480 that watched Crip that he is, you know what I mean? 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.680 So do you believe we can break a song from 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:16.600 the West in Atlanta. Yeah yeah, Webb Atlanta. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.040 Yeah yeah, all of it. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.200 Yeah, because Okay, like one of the one of the 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:26.480 biggest songs in Atlanta in Los Angeles is Spaceships on Bankhead, Fabo. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:32.600 I'm starting to see spaceship some bang here kid. That's 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.840 a huge song at home, right, And I hear I 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.480 thought about it right today. I finally thought about it, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.720 and somebody told me who is that? Who told me 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.959 Fable produced that? Somebody told me it the other day. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.520 It was like Fable produced Spaceships on Bankhead. So I like, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.160 I've been following Fabo for years, So I DM Fable a, 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.880 I need me and you. I want to do a 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.120 song with you. Spaceships on bank Head. Now, he's not 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.360 this generation, but like I've reached out to rich Homi Kwan. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.080 I think rich Homei Kwan is kind of the last 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.480 generation of successful Atlanta artists that pretty much went national 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.240 Little Baby rich Homeie well Little maybe a generation before 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.400 like Thug. He was out that Thug generation. So it's 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:19.280 all twenty ten and twenty twenty. So I reached out 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.280 to him. That's the person in Atlanta, I mean outside 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.200 of that. You know you're talking about new like rich 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.160 Homey Kuan. I think he would do well. Like I 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.000 think he's a He's probably one of the most underrated 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.959 geniuses from my thay. So that's the kind of person 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.440 I would need. So even when I came finally the 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.719 fuck was Atoven. He had something special for me. We're 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.439 going to see Tump today, right, I seen Toope already, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.280 but we're going to see Tump. Tump got something special 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:44.640 for me. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.280 You know. They're like making stuff. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.600 Yeah, like Little John right, Little John gave me fort 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:55.439 these biggest records. Wow, right right in the middle of 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.800 the Hype movie, right in the middle of the this movie. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.800 The great producers JD Like the great producers, don't They're 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.960 not stuck in the regional sound. They can produce up, down, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:08.080 mid anything. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.440 So no, let me let me I want to touch 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:15.080 on that. Sure, So I had producers try to produce. Okay, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.400 producers from Cali try to produce for artists out here 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.120 in Atlanta. As soon as they heard it, they was like, no, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.559 it sounds like like a West Coast beat or something. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.080 They couldn't find the essence of the roots. Do you 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.200 find that with well? Working with producers from Atlanta, if 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.320 you're trying to get a West Coast sound, that's. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.400 A great point, right. So a programmer or a programmer 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.640 and a producer is different. So like you got you 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.160 might have people who program ideas. But if you go 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.920 to battle Cap, battle Cap can make something that fits here, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.560 the same way Doctor Dre could make something that fits here. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.920 The sound way if you listen to DJ Quick class if. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.720 That would have been an Atlanta Persons record, that would 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.679 have been the number one record in the country. Like 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.000 if you put twenty one savage freestyling, like making us 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.680 song overclassed by DJ Quick, it's the number one song 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.320 in the country, you know what I mean. So I 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.120 think it's a level of skill that you know in 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.240 experience as well that needs to be applied for producers 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.560 to do it. Rick Rock right for jay Z gave 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.280 jay Z he produced rock Life familiar Rick Rock from 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:22.960 Northern California, Drake J Mary J. Blige you know from 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.360 New York R and B Siger Her greatest record, right, 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.560 which is that song would all have made up words 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.560 hileration and dancer rees. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.240 What about your biggest hit? What do you think it was? 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.040 It a crossover with an artist out side of Cali 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.760 or do you think it was Cali? 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.360 So it depends on who you ask, like, right, my. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.080 Greatest So okay, so this is tricky, right, So as 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.840 far as hit certified probably would be considered my highest 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.000 charting song, and DJ Tump produced that with a con 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.000 But I also understood why it worked. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:56.640 At that time. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.680 Tunt was like the number one guy in the game, 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.800 right giving uh Tun't gives t I what you know 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.760 about that? He gives Kanye West, can't tell me nothing, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.600 gez like he got all the shit. So I just 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:10.520 happen to have one of. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.400 Those Timing is everything too. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.600 Timing is in for era, like where we're. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.320 At right now? So where are we at right now? 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:20.360 Who's taking over? 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.360 Well that's the point, right, We're in a fucking weird space. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.359 Yeah, I don't think it's Atlanta. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.840 No, no, no, but it's not really any specific place, right, 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.880 And so there's a couple of reasons, right well, like 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.360 producer waves create the moment, right, So, which is why 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.800 Atlanta's still probably holding up towards They may don't have 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.080 the newest artists, but they have the producers. The role 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.280 of producers. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:54.120 Producer, you know what I think, and let me know 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.320 what y'all think. Atlanta producers like with ato A Mafia 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.080 and all them, they told me they actually started branding 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:06.200 themselves as artists. As artists do what other what other 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.080 producers do you know really had that famous lifestyle with 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:14.640 social media on the West Coast. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.920 But I don't even know if if if if. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.800 That's why, you know, I understand why the marketing a 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.640 pill of it could be dope or the branding a 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.800 pill of it could be dope. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:25.520 Right, But. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.360 Also like Future is still one of the biggest artists 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:34.360 in the game currently Thug right before he goes to prison, 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.800 you know, fighting his charges. Rather, he's one of the 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.360 biggest artists in the country Gunna minus his you know, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.920 his horrible, horrible decisions to be to to to volunteer 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.440 information to the police. Is one of the hardest, you know, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.000 one of the greatest artists in game. Little baby that 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.440 the music the rappers are being produced by the same guys, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.000 like Jay is still producing stuff for people that's in 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.480 this movement versus battle Cat is not producing on YG's album, right, 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.600 Doctor Dre is not producing on Kendrick's album. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.800 So there's no more real producers, you know, and in 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:14.320 our time when you had someone you were working with 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.280 that was your producer. So now we kind of bounce around, 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:18.080 Is that what you're saying? 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.560 Not in Atlanta? No, they came with Gucci, took came 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.320 with Tip. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.080 As far as we lost our loyalty. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:31.080 No, okay, So something's okay. No no, no, no, no, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.680 so no, this is what I think for you, even 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.280 go he has a producer, it's important to get his opinion. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:43.960 But somewhere after the two thousands, the greatest producers from 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:49.040 the West stopped taking on new clients. Doctor Dre is 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.359 the only person who took on a new client as 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.800 far as established producers right in the game in two 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.800 thousand and five. He didn't produce another whole album on 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.960 a brand new artist after that, right, which is fair 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.359 because god damn, this nigga been working forty years, Like 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.399 Surgery came out and with like eighty three or early eighties, 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.840 eight eighty three, eighty four, Surgery, R and B well, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.760 and then two thousand and five he does the games alum, right, 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:18.080 So it's that the third twenty years of some twenty 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:22.119 plus years of him producing artists Battle Catch last brand 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.520 new artist that he produced consistently, not to take credit 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.560 from his brother, but outside of that, he didn't really 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:33.000 produce after the East Siders. DJ Quick didn't really produce 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.359 after Sugar Free like that. So there was this great 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.560 span from probably two thousand. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.320 And Quick tried with Massa Burg but I. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.080 Mean mored in the nineties, but like when Myra, because 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.760 my era came and that became a problem. Like Glasses, Malone, Nipsey, Hustle, 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.040 j Rod, Kendrick Lamar, Battle Cat, all of those guys 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:58.520 we came out around them, excuse me, Glasses Malone, bish 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:05.440 and Lemont, Mike stro Nipsey, Hustle, Jay Rod, Problem, Kendrick Lamar. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.639 None of us received that production from those guys. We 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.840 never they never produced our whole albums, and that kind 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.840 of became when we started to struggle. It didn't work 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.800 until it skipped. And then Mustard right who kind of 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.800 started getting his feel from you know, everything that was 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.800 going on with Hayphi and Thiz and they made their 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:25.600 own movement. 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:27.440 And then you get yg. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.359 And Mustard and ty Dolla Sign who also is an 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.639 underrated producer. So I think before the last ten years, 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.360 I already realized that. And I've been trying to develop 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.080 an artist because I don't feel like you're a super 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:44.040 producer unless you break an artist and introduce something new 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:45.120 into the game. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.119 And well, you know the history, bro. 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:52.000 I've been trying to do complete projects or producer and 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.800 artists for the past ten years, but they just haven't 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.560 worked out or come out or even pursued at the 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.200 highest It's a tough it's a tough out. 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:02.760 Yeah. 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.480 So but that's why I said, I do give you 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.240 credit and different producers from around the way credit that's trying. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.399 It's not a lot, but I'm saying right now, like 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.320 right getting him with Doctor Dre, like he's different because 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.600