WEBVTT - Conversations West Coast Hip Hop Needs To Hear 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.400 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440 Saler's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:08.879 loaw glasses, Malone? 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.120 Was that four minutes later today? 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.520 Three minutes late you start that countdown? I would have 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:21.840 been three or two if you didn't do that countdown. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.200 You gotta do the countdown even when you late. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.640 Why do you have to do the countdown? People are 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:28.320 people are tuning into the countdown. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:33.640 It's so professional. You don't fuck with the professionalism of 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.440 the countdown. Well, I turn on a television. They don't 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.720 do a countdown. They just they just do the show. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.040 Nah, just they show the intro. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.560 Even if the show been on for twenty years as vu, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.120 you still get the intro right now to this day, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.440 twenty seven years later, they. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:59.440 Have production credits. Boy, this is this is like breaking 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.840 news and version see stuff. They don't do an intro. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.160 When you know they dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan, 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:06.919 they said this just then. 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.240 You want to go more news, not so programming. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.400 I don't know. We could do a little, but I 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.880 think if we if we if we lead it right. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.600 I think we need to make an intro. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.320 I think next time you come to LA we need 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.480 to make an SVU intro that's for the lunch hour, 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.280 and then it starts like the intro we had a. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:33.640 Don't boom bom bom bom boom boom boom boom boom 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.480 boom boom bom. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:39.480 And like we just investigating all kind of like crazy 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:40.280 shit in the world. 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.959 I want to do three different intro concepts, one for 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.920 each day of the week, and they could be thematic. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.320 One's like SVU. The other one's kind of like family matters, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.680 where we turn and wave and then it shows our name. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:53.800 Like we're doing a thing, yo. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.400 So we agree the shout out to everybody in the commons. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.680 No Senters live the lunch hour every Monday, Wednesday or 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:10.720 Friday Pacific time noon. You feel me, click the thumbs 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.480 up button. Let everybody know you here. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:14.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.280 Do that for real quick clicking thumbs up button. Check 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.800 the comments you know what I'm saying. Hit the comments 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.440 up so I can see y'all in here. Shout y'all 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.960 out correctly. Going to the description, subscribe to No Siller's Podcast. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.600 That's the reason why we do this. We do the 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.280 No Siller's Podcast. That's that's the exact reason why we 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:31.600 do this. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.560 You know what I'm saying. So go to the No 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:39.320 Sillers Live podcast Feel Me and we in the game. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.200 Subscribe it to a link below. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:49.160 Executive produced by Charlemagne of God Black Effect Network and iHeart. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.320 We could do something like a role reversal of the 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.960 Fresh Prince intro or I get out of a cab 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.920 on one hundred and seventeenth Street in Wilmington and then 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.400 I walk up and then next thing you know, I'm 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:00.800 getting thrown out of the house. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:01.440 At the end of the intro. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:08.120 I like that too, oh man. So shout out to 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.720 the homie. I think his name is either pronounced real 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.800 Studis or Sutis. I'm not sure how to pronounce it. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.519 Shout out to the homie from Twitter, but I thought 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.080 it was interesting and he gave me the idea that 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.560 I wanted to talk about glasses. Did I go through 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.840 a character change? Noah, No, no, no no, I just 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:29.919 not even like that, not. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:30.440 Even like that. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:35.640 Shout out to Laura nick Land Me Fat Hassan JD 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.000 my favorite Squishy. I just put together your package, Squishy 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.360 and selled it up and I got you for your today. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.480 Fats Tommie Fast, what's up, Fast, Bela, What's up? 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:44.800 Queen? 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.600 JD Thug was heading Nick everybody in here showing love 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.320 You feel Me? West Side was heading so the Homiel like, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.480 so today I'm looking and I realized, like, it's a 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.760 great time to be on the West coast. Ice Cube 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.360 is dropping Friday. He's dropping a new album this Friday. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.160 I don't know why the name is slipping. You feel Me? 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.440 Snoop is dropping in December. As soon as I leave here, 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.240 I'm gonna go to the compound with him and dre 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.240 Aight invited me over there to check out the record. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:23.560 They want to play the record for me. So I 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.280 get to be critical over some people I grew up 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:32.599 listening to. Exhibit is dropping in February. I'm dropping in March. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.960 The one ten album oh Ice Cubes album is called 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:40.479 Man Down. Snoops album is called uh Missionary. I know 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.320 exhibits album. He send me the cover heems I helped 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.920 choose to cover. And then we dropping Glass and Long 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.600 Presents one ten with me Joey Induced, and I was like, man, 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.119 somebody got to drop in January, like you know, maybe game. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.880 I know Gang was preparing documentary three, So. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.120 I thought it would be dope to, you know, if 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.839 he dropped in January and we just getting back to 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:09.479 business and a homie hopped on my Twitter. He tweeted 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:16.960 me and he said something specific to he said, he 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.280 responded to the tweet where I named all these albums 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.840 in the month for sure, rest and peace of fear. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.479 That's a good point. Cousin Harold Man I was a 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.960 dope brother. I never got a chance to meet uh 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.880 cousin Sofa. I never got a chance to meet cousin 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.760 Harold Sofia and he was hella dope. But so homie 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.520 responds to me when I'm really showing support for q 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:43.600 Snoop exhibit, and he said, respectfully, I'm from Compton, Greenleaf 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.320 and Willerbrook. I love all West Coast, but new artists 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.880 have to be featured more or get more exposure like 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:57.040 these established artists have within LA culture. And I responded 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:02.120 to him and I let him know like. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.680 Like I'm from around the corner from where you're from. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.400 And I don't think, really that wasn't the appropriate time 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.400 to really say that, you know what I mean, Like 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.320 if you showing love to a particular group of people 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.680 and that's to me where social media can be a 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.760 bit like, you know what I mean, kind of like counterproductive, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.200 where it's like you showing love, like you showing love 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:27.400 to catch up, and niggas start talking about mustard, you 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.600 know what I mean. It's like, what about mustard? It's like, 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.159 that's not what this is about. But it sent me 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.039 into a spiral thought and it took me back to 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.760 when I first started. We created a movement when I 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.840 first started in two thousand and five six seven called 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:47.120 West Coast Hip Hop right New West. That was our movement. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.840 And my attitude when I first got in this gang 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.320 was always like I felt like I didn't get embraced 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.840 by by the legends, and I don't even know what 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.880 that embrace shit look like. You know what I'm saying, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.560 be honest, you know what I mean, Like I don't 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:06.839 even know quite what I expected. But we started a 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.040 movement called New West because we were on our own 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.960 and we had to make it happen, like we none 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.480 of us was getting signed to labels, you know what 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:20.120 I'm saying. And forgive me, uh studies. I'm not saying 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.920 that that was your intentions to be that way. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:23.440 I'm just saying. 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.880 Social media can create that environment where you could be 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.680 showing love to something specifically, you know what I'm saying, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.120 and other things come into play and it may not 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:39.120 be the time for that. But anyway, we started this 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.760 New West movement, right and we started this New West 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:48.040 movement and me Bishop and Mike stro we were like 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:49.200 at the pinnacle of it. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:54.040 And really. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:59.000 It wasn't negative. It was just like, okay, we on 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.480 our own, so we're gonna make our own movement. See 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.800 back then, even sub like like like unconsciously knew you 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.880 needed a movement to market when it comes to hip hop. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.080 Does that make sense, Pete? Sure? Sure, Okay. 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:18.960 So as we the movement start picking up steam, different 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.520 new artists who were in the game or just getting 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.440 in the game, or been struggling in the game felt like, damn, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.120 it's some dudes that we can be down with. They 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.560 with us, and we with them. So they became a 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:35.200 part of the movement. And within that conversation, now you 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:40.040 have people with real gripes, you know what I mean. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.920 It was with real gripes. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.760 It like people who had felt like they've been messed 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.040 over by certain legendary artists. You know what, I mean, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.000 they had gripes. So what started coming from the movement 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:58.160 was like, you know, f them old dudes, or I 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.960 got a problem with this person. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.840 It just start being crazy, you know what I mean. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.360 It just it started being a different thing, and a 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.080 lot of the legends started responding. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:10.320 To the energy. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.319 And because everybody kept saying New West, right, and they 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.079 knew the center of New West was Glasses Low on 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:24.520 Seventh Street was Glasses alone, So immediately people start talking 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.960 shit about me. So I'm like, what the fuck, like, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.480 you know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't like this 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.880 is the New West. I get it, like this is 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.520 PEPSI and were talking about coke. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.840 But I never said nothing about coke. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.960 But now as they start to respond to me or 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.640 start saying shit to me, fore me, Now I gotta 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.600 say something back. I'm compelled, right, I'm still Hella Street, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.680 I'm still Hella a crip like, so I'm I'm giving 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.720 them the energy they asking back. So now I'm talking 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.520 shit too, now not specifically about nobody. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.240 Go ahead, Pete, No. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.040 I just didn't know because you're meeting with Dre later 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.560 and there's kind of this old Old West Coast theme 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.480 going on? Is this a bad time to pitch Dre 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.240 the idea for the new album the Chronic lower Back 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.840 Pain for the sixty and upcrowd. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.640 Yes, it is definitely a problem. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.080 Okay, well we'll hold on to that for later then, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:22.080 But on the theme as it exists now, it is interesting, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.640 like this is so parallel in human behavior to so 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:28.400 many other. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.360 Topics we've discussed. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:30.960 Yes, it is. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:31.920 It's the same. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:37.600 It's the same conversation as what is the kind of 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:42.200 collectivist responsibility of wealthy black people to look out for 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.679 up and coming black aspiring wealth. It's the same conversation 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.120 also as pro black doesn't mean anti white, it's it's 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.560 it's just a recurrence in the same human behavioral pattern 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.319 that exists throughout the canvas, exactly. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.960 And that's why, And that was my point set. He's like, 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.280 I'm not I don't disagree with you, because I think 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.280 when you say one thing, you're saying three things. Still, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:11.599 even if you're not saying three things, you know what 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.280 I'm saying, Like, I'm not saying. 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.079 That, I get it. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.520 So I'm just I'm just taking you back to somebody 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.400 who had that mind state that he's talking about you 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.280 feel me Like I had that mind state where I 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.720 really didn't have no I mean I grew up listening 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.400 to Snoop and Cue like it was to a point 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.199 that people thought me and Cube really had an issue 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.720 with each other. And I'm like, dog, I don't have 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.480 a problem with Q. I'm telling you my journey in 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.040 the business. You feel me, I don't. It's fucking Ice 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.960 cubing bonds, fucking alb since I was like eight, like 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.320 how the fucking min have a beef with Ice Cue? 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.720 So go ahead, go. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.640 Ahead, Snoop, And this is serious because the beauty of 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.320 doggy style was that it was doggy. It was double 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.960 entrantra between dogs and sex. Right now, Snoop's a little older, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.000 there's no such thing as a missionary dog. Why the 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.120 album needs to be called put Them to Sleep? 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.880 Well, that's only if it's If it's it's it's like 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.640 you're still evolving pass from doggy Style. But again, because 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.120 missionary is a play off doggy style. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.000 But put them to Sleep it's also a playoff doggy 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.480 style because you give it to them doggy style, you're 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:22.280 gonna put them to sleep. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.439 But when dogs get old, you put them to sleep. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:29.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but chill because I alady hear this 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.920 shit later and the nigga will be telling me later 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.400 like we sup with your hommy, don't do that. So look, 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.280 we got this New West movement popping right, you know 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.360 what I'm saying, So like it's blowing up. Bishop get 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.400 a deal, I get a deal, Mikey is heating up. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.719 And now it's like a lot of us, you know 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.000 what I mean, everybody is on Jay Rock, like all 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.240 the hommies. We we blowing up, but our attitudes was 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:57.840 what they. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.920 Were because it it went from a bunch of people 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:01.760 talking shit. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.680 Like again, certain people like Topic really had a bad 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.040 experience with dove C, the hommy. Topic he's a rapper 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.640 from West Covina, real dope brother and he was signed 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.280 to dove C and him and DUBC had an issue 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.120 in a falling out, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.760 So so uh. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.760 When Topics start pushing New West, he started addressing his 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.840 issues with Douve and then like it'd be different things. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.959 So I guess legends kind of felt that heat coming. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:38.760 So then they start talking shit about me, like maybe Bishop, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.000 but they just start talking shit about me, and then 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.240 so niggas hearing him talk shit about me, So then 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.280 we start responding and. 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.160 Then it's a bunch of other little. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.000 Goofy shit like right, that really created a weird riff 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.320 that I really didn't understand. I'm like, brother, like, how 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.400 do like, how does this work? 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:58.959 So it got to. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.880 The point to where, like cube, I remember being with 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.400 Joe Buddens and this is when Joe Buddens this two 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.080 thousand and eleven. So Joe Budden is doing a podcast when 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.440 podcasts don't even exist. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:10.600 That's one thing I can give. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.320 Him credit that Nigga has in podcasting before podcasting was 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:14.640 a thing. 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.520 But he had his laptop halfway. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.200 I didn't know he was recording on his laptop, like 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.800 he was talking to his audience, like he was just 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.120 broadcasting live. And he had his we on the tour 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.120 bus and his laptop is halfway you know what I mean, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.200 it's not wide open, so I don't know he's talking 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.240 on it. Not to mention, who the fuck was thinking 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.520 you was talking to the computer in twenty eleven, I 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.920 never did no shit like that, So I didn't even. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:39.760 Know what's streaming or. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.440 Yeah, but I still wouldn't have knew because I didn't 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.360 fucking know what the fuck could you be doing on 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:47.920 the laptop. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:49.280 And two, that's what I'm saying. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.760 That's like you might want to mention that. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.240 That's what I'm saying, Like I'm giving clarity. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.800 So with people here, it is like they don't think 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.480 Joe is just like something scammy dude, Like yeah, he 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.160 could be vloggy and I didn't know, but no, he 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.400 was live streaming back then. He was way up name 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.520 brand on live streaming. Like I didn't know what that was, bro. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.640 So I'm telling him a story. He's telling me a 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:19.360 story about when he met Wu Tang. This is before 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.560 obviously you know him and Wu Tang get into it 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.640 and they kind of punch on him. So I'm telling he, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.480 like you don't know what it feels like glasses. He 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.000 telling me what it was like where he felt he 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.440 was disappointed meeting some member of Wu Tang. I forgot 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.120 exactly the person. I'm sure it's out there, you can 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.000 find it. And I'm telling him, I'm like, Joe, that's normal. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.120 Like I remember I met ice Cube at a at 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.240 a record store signing and watch and I explained to 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.520 him the story where Cube was doing his signing and 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.760 he didn't feel as comfortable. Now, I don't know why 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.560 that don't he could been sick. I don't know, Like, 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.040 and I'm still telling you my perspective, I don't know, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.840 but I said, like, this is the person who I 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.320 grew up kind of looking up to as the ultimate 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:58.640 kind of man. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:15:59.840 And it just felt like. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.560 Because he didn't react the way I wanted to, and 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.040 him come meet all these ogs who really was his 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.960 fans like I came to. I was like, man, I 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.960 think I saw Q scared like I said it. I 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.520 was like, yeah, he just kind of seemed scared. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:15.640 Anyway, they take. 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.280 That clip and they chop it up and all of 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.920 the blogs go crazy with it. Again, it's twenty eleven, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.120 so shit is hitting. So Q comes out and he's like, nigga, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.760 I'm not scared of no glasses malone and fuck that 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.960 nigga and down I'm like, what the fuck is going on? 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.800 So again, this is all on top of. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.760 This whole New West thing where they all killed and 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.480 already is looking crazy. You know what I mean, It's 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.400 just been crazy. There's Cube got songs this in the 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.840 New West, like it's crazy. So but in my mind, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.240 I never in my life felt like I was beefing 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.000 with Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube or Doctor I know Doctor Dre. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.520 I knew Doctor Dre before I even got serious about 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.960 rap like I don't, or MC eight like I knew 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.960 because he messed with the Homie Boom. I knew Chill 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.680 because chilling them gave me my first singles two hundred 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:06.320 that blew up. 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:07.720 So I never had a problem. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.560 I've been buying these dudes records and listening to that 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.159 music my whole life. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:11.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:17.880 So how are you and cute? Like you guys cool? 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.719 Like I don't know, Yeah, we cool now you know 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:20.080 each other? 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.840 Like, I don't know how it got so crazy, bro, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.400 it got so crazy because this is the real story, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.439 how we kind of got to a place where we 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.320 settled it and rest in peace to crazy tunes. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:32.399 This. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.800 I don't think I ever told this story publicly, but 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.040 this is the story. So all this talking, so they 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.600 would ask me cu Din already put out these dish 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.480 records if you never heard them, drink. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:42.920 The kool aid? 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.280 Uh, No country for young men. It's some songs, and 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.639 he says some shit. Like even when he disses me 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.040 on the song, he like you Bobby Bouchet something, And 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.920 it's like Qute knows my alter ego to water Boy, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.280 Like that was everything to me, Like how could I 0:17:58.320 --> 0:17:59.399 even manifest a this. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.440 I'm more impressed that Cube knows who I am. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.840 Mind you, I'm a full seventh Street watch crit Nigga like, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.359 but I'm like, this is ice Cue cause like I'm 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.320 in bond this movies cuz watching like Nigga, what like 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.679 this cue, Like Nigga formed my style after your style. 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.439 But again, and if. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.240 He years this, he can go look through the interviews 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.640 because if I've never in my life said fuck ice 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.840 Cube or this ice Cube, it. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.840 Just sound weird. Yeah, and even though it don't. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.520 Even matter that I'm with mac Tin at the time, 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.560 and you know, they got the issue where they not talking. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.119 I don't have a song saying fuck ice Cue or 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.320 ever saying that. But again it's this energy like that's 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.680 what I'm saying, and I'm like, yeah, bro, my homies 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:45.800 even said that, like, man, glad you you had a problem. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.320 I'm like, no, I didn't, Like, I don't have no 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.120 song said fuck Snoop Dogg like that shit sounds stupid. 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:52.280 I don't know them. 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.000 All I know is I'm a fan of their music 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.879 cuz you feel me so and I got you said this, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.439 give me a second. Let me just worry through all 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.720 this shit. So this is how me and the Q shit, 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.760 this Q shit come to the head. So I have 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.800 a show because I have the number one record in 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:13.240 this town. It's in Indiana. I got the number one 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.560 song and that Haters is the number one song. Or 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.560 son come up, I get that one of them song 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.680 is the number one song at the time in Indiana. 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.359 It's it's a town in Indiana. So the radio station 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.639 booked me for a car show. So I go to 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.160 to do a car show. Now, outside the car show 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.919 is where it's at. But inside this in front of 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.639 a club almost looked like a like a born style 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.200 of club in Indiana. Fort Wayne. Fort Wayne, Indiana. That's 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.960 the name of the town. Matter of fact, I actually 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.280 I used to know who that. I knew who the 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.120 dead I knew who the dude name was. 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:49.359 That was actually the PD Yeah, I think that's my 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.480 old roommate in college. Was this girl on the track team. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:53.960 She stayed with me for like half a year. She 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:55.240 was from four Way, Indiana. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.399 Yeah, so Fort Wayne is one of those kind of 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:59.120 small big towns. 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.320 It's like a town that means something two six. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:02.680 Oh right, so. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.240 Yeah, good point. D Johnsy said, So at the ten years, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.479 they don't forget they forgot. No, that's the point. They 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.440 ain't forgott about me. Right, So fast forward? 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.480 Right, So is that Dennis Johnson from the Celtics. Was 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:19.120 he number three? 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.080 No? No, that's not Denis Johnson died rest of Soul. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.760 Oh you're right, DJ from counter Too out of the 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:26.840 DJ top ten point guard all time. I don't care 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:28.760 when nobody say, we'll talk about that another time. Yeah, 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.119 fast forward, So win four Way, Indiana. They booked me 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.920 for the car show outside. The outside car show is 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.879 the parking lot of a club. That night they have 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.560 a club going and they have ice Cube performance. I 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.919 didn't know. So we fly into town, right, I go 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.400 do my sound check. Me it's me and DJ Head 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.400 and the Homie Quiz shout out their head because Head 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.560 was there and we was with a record ind from 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.359 from Universal a Girl. So I'm doing my soundcheck and 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.120 we're finna go back to the hotel to chill out 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.920 and get you know, till listen to do the card show. 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:02.840 Fast forward. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.199 I'm walking back to the van and I hear like 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:11.800 faintly skip skip yy yay, like like music, and I 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:16.720 hear somebody checking the mic. This is me outside hearing 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.520 a sound check inside the club. Hey, my name glasses 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.760 because I can't see cuz, but my fucking ears it's 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:25.840 top tier at this point in my life. 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.080 You understanding, my ears is crazy. So I hear it, 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.960 I'm like, is that these niggas sound checking in the air? 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:37.959 So I'm like, damn. So I'm like, I tell the promoter. 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:39.800 I said, hey, what's going on. Later he's like, oh, 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:43.400 we got a concert. I'm like, oh yeah, they say, 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.480 acting their sound checking. It's a white man. So he 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:47.800 don't quite tell me who it is, but I know 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.760 who it is. So I'm like, could y'all give us 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.720 a tour of the club. They said, okay, Now this 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:53.400 is raggedy because I did do that. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:55.239 It was raggedy. I did do that. 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.320 I didn't tell nobody what I thought or what I felt. 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.639 I just knew I needed to get in there because 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:04.159 I always said, like, look, man, I'm not gonna argue. 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.879 I love DUBC The shadey is one is my favorite 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.240 album all time. Like, I'm not gonna argue with y'all 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.600 over records. I'm not Fena dish y'all the interviews, cause 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.320 when I see y'all, we get addressing and get to 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.240 whatever it gotta be. That's just the nigga I was. 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.040 That's how I am to this day. Like I'm not 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:20.800 gonna do too much of that with you. If I 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.959 could see you, if I could see you, nigga, I'm 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.359 gonna see you. So the man walk us in, head 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:29.640 like okay, so we all walking in. I'm getting closer 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:36.679 and closer. Nigga is duve see sound checking. Oh I'm now, 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.560 So head figures out what I know? He like, oh shit, 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.520 like he like he know and he see me going. 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.280 So I walk. I walk right past Q. So I'm like, 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.880 what up, cuz I and I know you son see 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.040 me like this. Nigga is right here. 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.520 So I stood in front of the stage cuse probably 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.679 about a good twenty feet back. Why cuz and tunes 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.560 and sound checking rest in peace to twos and they 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.080 checking and them niggas looking, and I'm standing in front 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.000 of the stations like watch up, Cuz niggas look at 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.720 they like glasses tones comet behind the DJ booth, Hop down, 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.320 Dub hot down. Now I'm looking for the Q. I'm like, 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.040 what's up man? You niggas been talking about me? You 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.640 feel me? Fuck that? What's happening? Cuz, like, let's get 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.800 these shits right now. That's where my mind was at. 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:26.199 So Nigga Toon was saying something. I'm like, what's handing case? 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:27.840 Y'all niggas been talking about me and all that. You 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.720 like nigga, nigg nobody worried about you. Nigga, it's whatever. 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.520 I'm like, whatever, Cud, we can get out right now. 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.280 So Cuds is coming there, He coming around Dub to 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:38.480 get at me. So I feelsh squabble crazy tunes. This 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.119 is crazy tunes, Cuz, like what the fuck? Why am 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.840 I about the squabble? Like one of the my favorite niggas. 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:46.840 I don't even know what's wrong cuz, but at this 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.639 point the cripp is just coming out like I'm like, cuz, whatever, cuse, like, 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:52.919 let's get it that nigga. Dub pushed me. He pushed 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:55.480 to This is how strong Cuz is. He pushed tunes 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.680 back Tunes fly back. He pushed me into the kitchen, which. 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.080 Is behind me the fuck. So Doug like, glassing, man, 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:04.080 what your motherfucking problem. 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.919 He ain't got no problem cause y'all niggas getting at me, 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.000 fileing shit. He like, Nigga, you lean the movement, Nigga, 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:10.919 you told this story. You thene called this. Nigga, you 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.520 just set this Nigga scared and died out out out 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.120 And I'm like, Cuz, I'm just telling the story. You're like, glasses, 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.040 this niggas lies and you just saying shit and you 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:20.239 not thinking about it. 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.840 So he started just talking to me, cuz. 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.440 And and Tunes like, yeah, nigga, you keep trying to 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.040 bring the streets to this shit. I'm like, nigga, I 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.199 thought this was the streets. And they like, Nigga, this 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:32.240 is a business, nigga. 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:33.440 You get paid. You gotta check. 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.080 Nigga, they almost got you a million dollars and cuse, 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.439 they just kept talking to me, cuz, and I just 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:42.480 got I went from six to three itchy foot to five, 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:47.920 seven to five, four to four, nine to three six 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.360 by the time that conversation was over. Because Douve made 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.760 me feel like a Toddler. And I mean, he wasn't 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.000 like assaulting me, he wasn't calling me out my name, 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:04.399 he wasn't doing none of that cuz he was just 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.840 telling me how the business goes. And it made me 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:13.760 feel like fuck, man, Like how did I know that 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.080 this business was a business? You know what I mean? Like, 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.080 how didn't I know? Like I didn't know? You know, 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:24.479 I'm thinking these niggas, it's really like, you know, like 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:28.040 I believe the raps. I'm not thinking that they're telling 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.879 us stories. That's not to say whether it's real or not, 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.000 but they are professionals in double like you got to 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:34.879 be a professional. 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:35.320 Cousin. 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:39.360 I was like fuck, And he was like, look, man, 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.680 I'm finished selling shit with Cube that nigga call QB. 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.320 He's like, Cube, I got this nigga glass right now. 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.399 He's like, what, like, yeah, mana to check this nigga. 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:46.840 Man out to get at this young nigga man and 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.840 tell me, man, y'all niggas need to go ahead get. 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:49.440 This shit worked out. 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.480 He's like, all right, dude, just whatever you say, dog, 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:53.200 you know it's cool, you know, shut it up, and 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.320 da da dah. And they was like all right, glasses. 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.639 So they talked and he and he's like, look, nigga, 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.000 after y'all show, after our show, after your show, nigga. 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:00.840 Come meet up tonight. 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.640 Nigga, were gonna talk and get this ship worked out. 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:08.359 I felt so little, I didn't even go back to 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:08.840 the meeting. 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:14.520 Oh I did my show. I did my show. 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.479 So you got these two poor guys sitting in some 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.200 diner in Indiana waiting around and waiting around, and you 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:21.440 ghost of them out after all that. 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:22.280 Ship first. 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:28.320 Man, it was had cause I felt so stupid and 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:33.000 little and and ignorant, like I didn't know, and uh 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.480 so I took it dub Man. 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.080 Dub as you know, like my two most underrated favorites, 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.560 like of all time of in l A ever is 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.200 Tashing Dub like as far as. 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:51.000 Like the guys who and I got tashed on the 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:52.480 song too. So you're gonna love. I'm gonna sit it 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:53.840 to you. This is RIF. 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.320 So yeah, but we definitely got to get double on 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.960 this platform because he could tell you the conversation right 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:05.359 so fast forward right something like damn Cuz He's like, 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.120 uh so we talked later and I didn't go because 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.080 I just felt so stupid, so I know it's over. 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.240 He's like, look, man, we talk. He's like, man, cub 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.239 ain't tripping. He said, you know, loans, it ain't no 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.320 you know, it ain't no problem. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.960 So fast forward. This is about ten months later. 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.040 Now I really ain't said nothing else about it because 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.119 I'm over it, Like my whole mind is fucked up. 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:32.600 Whatever. I go to a radio room for the Grammys, right, 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:33.200 the Grammy. 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.240 So a radio room is when all the different people 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.440 from all the different radio stations in media come to 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.439 LA because they doing the Grammys, and they set up 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.960 a room for all of the stars to walk through 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.680 and do press. It's just a room full of different 0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:51.480 media outlets, radio station, television stations, magazines, and you sit 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.520 down with each of them and you get pressed all 0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.240 over for all over. 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.879 The country, all over the world. It's kind of dope. 0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.080 I mean. So I go there. 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.680 I take Pun. This is punk Pun fresh in the business, 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:06.880 you know what I mean. Like he like I knew 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:08.720 we had all the talent in the world, but he's 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:09.640 fresh in the business. 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.159 He's here a crib like me. 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.560 So like, you know, we we on time, but were 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.720 not chipping like I've been in the business now four years, 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.840 five years, so I feel like I kind of know 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:22.960 what's going on. I mean, so we walking in, everybody 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.439 talking to us, and then like all of a sudden, 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.800 everything just get quiet, like it got kind. 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.040 Of weirdly quiet. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.680 Like why everybody just it just got quiet, like. 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:40.000 A whole loom came over the room. Cube and then 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:45.640 walk in. So people know that I'm here and they 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.280 see Cube walking in. Sell mind you, they don't know 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.960 what happened in Indiana because I'm not that kind of nigga, 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.680 Like I'm not no matter who I had a problem with, 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:56.640 I don't really get on the internet and talk about 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.800 it like I just because I'm gonna see you and 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.360 we're gonna get to the problem, you know what I mean. 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.160 I'm trying to fight anyway. I'm trying to do it anyway. 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.520 So they don't know that we solve the problem already, 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.960 Like whatever the problem could have been, it was already 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.479 solved because I didn't go do interviews like yeah, everything 0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:12.280 is cool with me, and. 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.640 Q Q followed me. Kill would be watching this. He's 0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:15.080 on Twitter. 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.240 He follows me on Twitter. We like we talk, so 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.680 you know what I mean, like nobody knows. We already 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.600 had settled whatever differences that people thought it could have been. 0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.000 But because I didn't go say nothing, he didn't say nothing. 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.600 So he comes in. But everybody know that there was 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:35.560 supposed to be a problem, right, So I'm like, why 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.440 is it? And then it hit me like, oh, they 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.360 think is a problem with me and Cuz and we 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.800 in LA. So I'm like, man, I'm not even getting 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.320 into it. I'm just doing my radio run. So it 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.959 is you could tell like it's to people, it's attention. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.440 They're acting like there's a tension in the room. In 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.080 my mind, I'm just trying to get this shit done 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.120 to leave. I'm really embarrassed. I don't even want to 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.280 face these niggas because I really feel cause it's like, Bro, 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.640 I really never dish you. I don't have no songs 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.000 dishing you. I'm really a fan. 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:05.760 This is stupid. 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.480 This ain't gonna work out, Like, how do I even 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.280 write a disrecord against you? I don't even know you, nigga, 0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.080 nor do I have a problem with you. Nor if 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:14.640 I write a disc record, it's gonna sound like you 0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:18.000 rapping Cuz. Like the fuck this stupid. It's like a 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.880 son fighting his father. It's just dumb at a certain place, 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.560 like you taught me all the moves. I'm gonna hit 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:24.400 you back with your moves. 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:24.920 It's stupid. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:32.240 So nigga, we get to that point, right all right, Keyboy, 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.120 come up now, mind you it was some shit at 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:36.840 a time, because key I remember keybo talked to one 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.360 of my older homies, my older Army Boo, and it 0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.600 was finna be some shit then. But again it was 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.600 never could really be no shit because it wasn't no shit. 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.840 Like I'm not finna entertain dissing cbe ice Cube in 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:49.520 the back battle, like this is fucking ice Cube. 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:54.000 It's just stupid. So Keyboard walk up. He's like, glass, man, 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:54.880 I gotta get you a cube. 0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:55.000 Man. 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:55.440 Q's in. 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.600 I gotta got your niggas need to talk yo. I'm like, yeah, 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.760 I know, I know. Man, let's do another time, Like now, 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.160 let's do it here we together right now. I'm like, 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:04.720 and I don't want to do it in front of 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.800 all these people because I really don't have nothing to say. 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.640 He like, man, come on, bada, so he walk off. 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.040 I tell a point. I say, man, we're gonna sneak 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.120 out on them niggas. Man, I'm not finna do this because. 0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:16.560 Twice. 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.200 Yeah, I'm trying to go seem again cause it's like, bro, 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.760 because now it's dumb. You know what I'm saying, Because 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.000 it's stupid. It's like, bro, like what the fuck? 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.040 You know what I'm saying? Like what the fuck? Uh? 0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.920 Keybo, come back, give us some T shirts? And everybody's watching, 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:35.800 crip yang everybody watching. So I'm like, man, I'm not 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.320 finna do this. Paul, like, man, why don't you talk 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:39.640 to me? I said, Man, I talk to that nigga 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.400 another time when it ain't a bunch of people around, 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:42.720 because it's really stupid. 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.400 Keybo, come back, give us some shirts. Keep it. 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.320 He gave you ice cube shirts. 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.200 So Keybo is a g is a triple og for 0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:57.640 one eleven. Keybo is Pinky's drivering Friday. Okay, like but 0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.640 he like a triple og nigga for one eleven. 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:01.560 He like a real respect, like one of the guys 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.840 in the van on Friday and and and the alley 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.120 because it was dob see you jumped out and spray. 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.760 To get not the first Friday he's in there. 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.960 I know what you mean, but I was like, oh no, no, 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:13.640 I wasn't jumped out of the van. 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.200 Yeah that was dub and original Friday. 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.320 Okay, so he's be one of the people in the 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:18.760 van too. 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.200 No, so Keyboards Pinky's driver, when Pinky be like, you 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.680 made me spill yat on his suit. So but Keyboards 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.960 like this super fly ass nigga build dope cars. Cuz 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.880 just like this super triple o G nigga for one 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.440 left like I have respect for Cuffore. 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:32.040 I even met him. 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.560 His name always missed some solid nigga. So he's trying 0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.320 to give me to talk to this nigga, and I'm like, man, 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.840 I don't want to talk more because I'm embarrassed, like 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.320 I don't like, I really feel stupid, and I'm really 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.360 mad because I felt like niggas didn't educate me on 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:50.680 what's happening. So fast forward, I'm trying to get out 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.480 the door. I didn't did all my radio shit. I 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.320 just stopped at all these booth It's time for me 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.280 to get up out of here, so I'm trying to 0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:01.320 slide out. I see keybo working Q through the roles 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.880 to catch me at the door. So I'm trying to 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.360 wait till he ain't looking. Cuz, look away, cousin, I 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.320 start making my way to the door me and pun. 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:11.400 Them niggas. 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:12.440 Catch us at the. 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:16.360 Door, he said, y'all to get y'all together the whole 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:22.880 radio room. Cuz is looking at us, the whole radio 0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:28.440 cause it's two hundred people. Cuz looking at us. It's 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:32.240 two hundred people. Couse just staring at us. And I'm like, look, 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.680 big dog, I don't really know. He was like, yeah, 0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.920 I just felt like, you know, maybe Mac told you. 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.320 I said, look, I don't god know songs this in you, 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.160 big dog, like this stupid, Like I grew up listening 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.280 to your music. You influenced my style. Like I don't 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.200 even know you. How could I make a record thisition you? 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:46.960 I said. 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.480 Our movement was because we felt like we was by ourselves. 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.360 That's it. We made our movement. 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:52.840 I said, y'all get it with some people that was 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.960 anti y'all that came about, I said, But that wasn't 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:57.320 the foundation of the movement. 0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.600 The movement was just us embracing. 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.240 Each other like yeah, gee, like you know, it don't 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.280 got to be I'm like, it ain't like that, Like 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.560 I can't or like I could never be with you, bro, 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.000 like you created my style. You know what I'm saying, 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:13.160 This is stupid, and and you know we shook hands 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.439 whatever adapter was like all right, we'll get up for sure, 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.120 and then I got on right, But like I didn't 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.880 like all that stupid ass attention because I really didn't 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:26.560 have no problem with cuz right. So I say all 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:31.279 that to say such, it's like there's an arrogance when 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.399 you young and you come in this business. You come 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.960 in this business thinking you know what to do. You 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.800 come in this business thinking you have everything it takes 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.000 to make it happen. 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.919 Lord knows, you get a record deal that's worth millions 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:44.440 of dollars. 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.719 Is there another component of that where and you kind 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.600 of see it some of us to do with age. 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.800 Something has to do with a lot of various stuff 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.000 as well. But you see, like young dudes and like 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.840 really street guys that are rappers, they might come in 0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:02.600 and be like they still got fixed street residue on them. 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:04.720 And some of these older people been. 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.439 You know, wealthy and successful for too fucking long or whatever. 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.840 So the attitude is a perspective or change. So and 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.200 on top of being young, and exuber and or whatever. 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.160 You also think you hard as fucking in the room. 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.560 I'm not saying you personally specifically, but like you know, 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.000 you see young guys who just get on and they 0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:24.960 still doing crazy stuff for whatever the hell. 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.840 They got a lot of bravado, a lot. 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.759 Of attitude and that kind of thing, and it really 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.400 becomes a little blurrier as to you know what exactly 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:32.160 their agenda is. 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:32.680 Sometimes. 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.360 I mean again it is the same arrogance where you 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:44.800 feel like you hellas street. But I can't find I 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:49.239 can't believe I'm doing this because but like defending them, 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.640 but I don't think they quite know that they need 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.200 to teach you something. And I don't think just because 0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:59.480 they successful means that they are naturally teachers. 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:04.279 True, just because MC eight is hell is successful, it 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:05.520 doesn't make him a teacher. 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.560 Yeah, I mean, especially in something like this. I mean, like. 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.960 It's the arts, like it's all just to say quad, 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.520 most of it is you either got it or you don't. 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.520 You can't teach it. You got it or you don't. 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:20.440 You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:21.239 business to it, but. 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.120 Like no, no, no, there is a lot to teach 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.760 but you got it like being a teacher, like people 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:31.160 get taught how to teach. Sure, just because you did something, 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.480 don't mean you could teach people how to do it, 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:37.040 Like like that's why some of the best professional athletes 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.640 make some of the worst coaches. 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.120 Yeah, well that's kind of where I was going, Like 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.319 do you think that there? And it's again it's it 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:45.960 can't be either or you know, there's a lot of 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:46.680 spectrum to it. 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.239 But in a rap you could be. 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.400 A type of artist and you're an extremely talented artist 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:59.359 and other people because you're such a like well of 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.440 just money, like you know, like the little fish to 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.120 hang out by the sharks or whatever the hell were 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:06.240 you just get such an apparatus around you that does 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.000 all the business and all the whatever shit that some 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.520 people just have a pave just just go be RCU 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:13.799 and make the records and do that. 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.280 Whatever the hell. We're gonna make our fifty million dollars 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:16.719 off of you. 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.399 We don't care. We'll do everything. And they don't have 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.200 to learn that much. They just have to do their 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.359 thing or is that not quite so much? 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.240 Yes and no, Like all of these things are true, 0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:31.720 but you know what the problem with the New West 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:37.120 was and even the driving force of the attitude. And 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.400 I could tell you in twenty twenty four as I 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.640 got older, is we didn't know the right questions to ask. Sure, 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.040 like I'm naturally a teacher, like I've been teaching my 0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.399 whole life, But that don't mean MC eight just because 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.920 he's successful as a teacher. But there are things to know, 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.040 Like there are things to know, bro, Like, yes, there's 0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.319 a natural element to this business. And you know, people 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:02.040 say a million things. It ain't only one way to 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.120 skin a cat. Yes, there is only one way to 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.840 skin a cat. Got to take a skin on. So 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.439 you might can use different types of nods and shit, 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.040 but there's only one way to skin a cat. 0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:12.680 I mean it really is. 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.280 So you're saying the younger dudes don't want to embrace 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:21.120 the wisdom from the older generation. No, it's not they 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.360 don't want to They don't know that there's something to know. 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.680 Yeah, that's to me, Like you said, you don't know 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:33.120 the right questions to ask, Like in football terms, once 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.120 you have the right questions, you're in the red zone. 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:37.000 Yes, you know. 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.120 The more you know you don't know like that I'm at. 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.839 Now where I'm at now, like the success that I'm 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.120 about to experience next year is because I got the wisdom. 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:50.600 So now the questions are different because they're I actually 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.000 took time to know something. 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:52.839 Listen. 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.200 Hip hop has never just been a young man's sport. 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:59.160 That's just this really weird expression that people have some 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:04.600 reason carried. The culture of it is driven by youth. 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:08.200 But then the business of the record business. Sylvia Robinson 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.560 when she was making records for you know, a twenty 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.919 two year old Mellie Mail or twenty one year old 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:15.800 or twenty two year old or twenty year old or 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:16.920 nineteen year old. 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:19.040 Him. 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.480 What's the name of that group the original record, Yeah, 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.279 sugar Hill. They were twenty in nineteen and twenty one, 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:33.120 but Sylvia Robinson was forty. She produced you know the 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:37.680 sugar Hill record. She produced the Message. You know, Larry 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.520 Smith is smart and older. Doctor Dre doesn't produce Snoop 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:45.520 Dogg until he's thirty. So it's always been a combination 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:50.759 of the knowledge of music, rappers, the light you're looking 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:55.000 our name brand rappers delight right, There's always been a 0:39:55.000 --> 0:40:03.080 combination of you know, experience with youth, the energy of youth, the. 0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:03.600 The the. 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:10.000 Knowledge and experience of the wise with the cultural you know, 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.399 reverence and and and and and energy of the youth. 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.200 That's always been the success of hip hop as the 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:21.600 record business. So I don't think it's young people don't 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.160 want to embrace the wisdom of the older generation. 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.000 I don't think they know they need it. You don't 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:28.839 know you need it. 0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.680 You don't know that hip hop or the record business 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:33.400 side of hip hop, there's something to know. 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.440 You don't know that. You just feel like I'm dope. 0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:41.000 I got something to say cuz and I'm for real, 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.880 and that's enough. You don't think about that. There is 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.840 a business you know what I mean in Santa Monica 0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.759 called Interscope that got six floors of people that make 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.759 the chronic and Doggie style sell the way they sell. 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.279 You don't think of it like that. 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:04.759 You like, okay, you don't think of records. So it's like, 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.920 you don't know there's something to know. So to his point, 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.000 he was like, well, it's almost like he was saying 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.759 that he felt the older generation needed to embrace the 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:19.600 youth more. And it's like, no, it's two people that 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:25.799 got to know that together they can make history. It's 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:29.239 two people it's an elder and a young person that 0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.600 got to know together they can change the course of 0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.879 what's happening. That's what it's always been. You don't get 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.279 the greatest hip hop artists of all time, Snoop Dogg. 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.399 If Dre is not thirty years old at this point, 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.640 the things he knows about music, the things he knows 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:49.480 about records, the experience combined with the cultural renaissance and 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:54.440 the energy of a prime Snoop Dogg, you don't get it. 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.920 It don't work. That's why it works. The way it works, 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:00.000 that's why it works. 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.319 So it's two people that got to understand that each 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:08.319 person possesses a value. They gotta know that. So that's 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.920 what I was saying to him. It's like, you both 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.719 have to know that you have a value for each other. 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:18.040 If when I was young, I would have loved to 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:19.880 work with I did work with Battlecat. 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:23.840 It became one of my most important songs. DJ Toomp, who. 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.359 At that time probably was thirty five, thirty six years old, 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.000 maybe even closer to forty. 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.320 DJ Tump gave me my first hit record. 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:31.959 You know what I mean in two thousand and seven 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.320 and eight, You know what I'm saying like I became 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.759 instrumental in helping my team understand how to make it 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:42.759 with that good again. It's a combination of knowledge, right, 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:48.720 you know, history and knowledge and cultural renaissance. It's both, 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:52.760 like I'm helping Homie White Dog. Like there is an 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.600 arrogance when you young and you feel like you know it, 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.600 then there is also you gotta be smart and realize 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:00.560 some already. 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:05.440 Experienced it and it ain't easy. It ain't easy, you 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.279 know what I mean. You got to you gotta peel. 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.000 I tell another thing I realized too in the streets, 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.160 gang bang and hustling, ego and pride are your most 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:18.520 prized possessions. Say how you earn they how you avoid problems. 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.400 Everything about what people think about you, the reputation that 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.439 you carry is everything. I could tell you one thing 0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.440 if you're a young artist in a business, that is 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:28.640 the one thing you don't need. 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:34.560 And I think also, like in the street environment, if you're. 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:40.600 Getting knowledge from older people with a lot of experience, 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:48.759 it's probably more pitfall oriented knowledge than rather like a 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.040 lot of guys you could point too easily that did 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:54.520 it really big at that level, didn't have a problem, 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:59.480 made it out clean and are like you know, on 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.279 the golf in Palm Spring smoking a cigar, like, let 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.920 me tell you how to do this. It's probably not 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.239 quite so much that as it is like, look, it's 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.280 all good until you make this mistake. Don't make this mistake. 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:11.799 And at that point, you know, sometimes you look at 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:15.560 people who failed. There's always that Tennessee. Like you hear 0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.960 like with kids at parcies, don't drink and do drugs, Well, 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.920 you're drinking dud drugs when you were in high school. 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:22.320 It doesn't mean it was a good idea. 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.080 Well, I mean even in the streets some people like 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.120 Jenius like my big Hommy Pluck Boo man, them niggas 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:30.319 is jeniuses, you know what I mean. 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.480 So it ain't about losing as much as they've tried 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.040 so many different ways. 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.520 Sure, but again, like I say, the pride and ego 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.640 part of the business. You know what I'm saying that 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.480 you need in the streets, you don't need that in 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.759 hip hop. You gotta lead that there because that's the 0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.759 biggest thing such is that The issue is is you 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:54.360 have to understand that you don't need that in the business. 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.040 You actually really need to get with all of these 0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.719 people and learn what they know. I ask to catch 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.080 because they all know some shit. Here's today like even 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:05.960 Snoop and dradon them now to deal with them, To 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.879 go deal with them now was like the same thing, 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.160 Like I'm always still a student. I'm still gonna be 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.279 able to pass the information to young homies whoever that 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.799 want to rap. You know what I'm saying and all 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:21.759 of the above. Shout out to real studies again. No 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.240 Sellers Live the lunch hour Monday, Wednesday and Friday noon 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:29.560 Pacific Standard time. Click the thumbs up. But let everybody 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.920 know you here. If you're on Twitter, retweet this. Let 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.839 everybody know hop on I I mean we're cooking, going 0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.000 to work. Look at the description. Click the link to 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.680 the No Sellers podcast, Apple Podcasts, anywhere you get your podcasts. 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:46.000 Executive produced by charlamagnea God, Black Effects Network. 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:47.720 I heart real settings. 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.320 I was speaking more towards the formula needs to change, 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:54.200 not necessarily the younger generation not listening to the older generation. 0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.840 I don't think it's the younger generation not listening to 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.879 the older generation. I don't think people realize su there's 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:02.600 something to know. 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.400 There's not really a dialogue at all. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.799 Yes, it's not something to know. The problem is they 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.279 don't realize it's something to know. Most people come into 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:14.360 this business thinking it's art, so it's like whatever works. 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.400 They forget that the record business is not a business 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.319 of art. It's a business of records, and records get 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:25.320 real scientific. So that's the point that's not talked about 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:29.399 the science of a record. Everybody naturally can paint, and yeah, 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.960 you can improve on being a dope painter, you know 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:33.759 what I mean, you can learn some stuff, but art 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.759 is art. But the science of records is where all 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.799 of those guys understand. 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.520 And here's a great example. This is a great carryover 0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.360 from what we were talking about two days ago. This 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:50.520 is the difference between Jake Paul is a boxer and 0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.719 every other boxer who's a ten times better boxer. He's 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:58.520 manipulating the business side of the sport better than all 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.520 the other boxers who are doing better at the boxing 0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:02.360 side of the sport. 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.000 He definitely is another part of the business, and it's 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:14.840 a business. So the record part of the business. 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:10.799 Is just. 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.080 This record selling records. 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.399 It's science and records. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.600 science in boxing. It's science, and. 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.480 There's a natural element where RJ could come in, right, 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.160 I remember him coming in and he could be a 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.600 cultural renaissance on his own with his style. 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:31.719 Right. 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.400 But then there is a science about records. There's a 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.680 science about this business. And if you don't quite know it, 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.760 you know what I mean, you will never maximize potential. 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:46.719 You will never maximize possibility. Joe moses different people to 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.719 me that are like cultural renaissance on their own. Like 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.879 them dudes are like culturally incredible. Nothing is more hip 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.440 hopp than some of them dudes. But you gotta do 0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.320 the record side of the business. 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:02.879 Shout out to. 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:06.239 Unknown raider God. That is where Jake Paul messed up. 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.440 He said his dream is to become a champion. That 0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.080 will never happen with the route he's taking. That's because 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.880 that's not his goal to be a champion. His goal 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.200 is being achieved. Every time he goes to the bank account, 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.600 he's selling you the marketing of him wanting to be 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:21.480 a champion to. 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.040 Keep driving your hate. 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.280 He knows the route to become a boxing world champion, 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:31.799 he knows it is obvious, but again he's marketing to 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:35.160 you that to drive your hate for him. To make 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.839 you watch him. Everything Jake Paul sells is the same 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.840 thing Floyd Mayweather, So you just want to see him lose. 0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.680 So he keeps putting himself in the ring with the 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:48.839 least the lesser gamble of beating him that you think 0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:50.840 could beat him. That's what he's selling you. He's selling 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.359 you who you think could beat him, and he's getting 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.960 in the ring with them, and he's making educated guesses 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.719 on it every time. So the confusion is that you 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:00.880 really believe that he thinks his goal is to be 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:01.440 a champion. 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:02.840 That's just to market. 0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:06.040 It's like when it's like when a rapper markets independent 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:07.640 even though they signed to a record label. 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.319 Sure, I mean that's like, you know, there's also an 0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.200 element to it. I don't know what it is. We 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.440 live in an era that has just got a hard 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:20.680 on for a nostalgia like I've never seen. Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:26.200 But the people that Joe viewer gets more personal gratification 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:30.799 out of seeing, hypothetically Mike Tyson, with whom they have 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.319 an emotional connection, knock out Jake Paul than if we 0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:35.480 put in coyote Dude. 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:36.600 We're talking about the other day that. 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.719 No one knows by and large, he's not like way 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.680 into boxing, just roll up and just lay his ass out. 0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:43.960 You know what I mean. 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.759 Like people don't get the same gratification out of that, 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.839 so they're willing to pay more to see that opportunity 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:50.200 if it were. 0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:54.680 It's not nostalgia, like it's who do people know and 0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.000 think could knock you out because they have to know 0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:01.239 you sure sure so, Like his goal is to make 0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.799 the educated guess. And just like when it comes to 0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:08.799 West Coast hip hop, I do think impact matters, but 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.600 I think how you get back to that, it's nothing 0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.800 to get back to. Like if there was a problem 0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:19.120 with West Coast hip hop is our culture is revered 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:24.440 all around the world. Our culture is studied. Everybody knows 0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:28.960 who we are. We're not presenting anything new culturally, you 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.560 know what I'm saying. We're not presenting anything new culturally. 0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.120 There's nothing new culturally happening as a movement on the 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:40.839 West Coast that's worth talking about. Like, everybody knows who 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.640 we are. They everybody you know. Most people can name 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.400 a crip that they know. Most people can name a blood, 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:53.080 most people can name popular people from this culture. There's 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.759 films there have been films about West Coast street urban 0:50:56.800 --> 0:51:02.520 culture now for almost forty years. Colors is loosely on it, 0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:06.840 like that's how long Hollywood has been showcasing our lives 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:07.920 and the way we. 0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:11.080 Live on the West. So it's just it's just stale. 0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:12.920 That's it. 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:17.800 It's just stale. It's nothing wrong. It's not about music. 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:20.120 Like this is the thing about hip hop. Hip hop 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:24.720 is not music first. Hip hop is culture first then music. 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.640 And and this is why the arguments happen all the 0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:31.600 time on social media because people didn't do their studies. 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:35.600 Everybody black streak. They feel entitled to hip hop, but 0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:38.960 they don't quite understand what's going on or the business 0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.000 itself of it. They just feel like it's something innately, 0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.880 like most people think black people can play basketball. 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:50.000 Most you niggas can't play basketball. But again that's. 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:51.399 What people of us. 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.080 But I'm saying probably not even still. 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.560 But again it's like these are the things that we 0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:58.359 feel like in native we understand that we don't. 0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:00.879 We don't take the time to understand them. So hip 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:05.680 hop is coaching first, music second. And that's the trick. 0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:11.320 Everybody is spoiled with West Coast Street urban culture everybody spoiled. 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:15.840 It's they so spoiled, bro, that now there's gangs, crips 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:24.880 and blood gangs in everybody's town. Yeah, like crips and bloods, 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:29.320 gangs in everybody's town. There's like, every town got cripson bloods. 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:32.400 There are kids who grew up in this world, teenagers, 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.880 maybe even twenty, that didn't know gang bangs. 0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:36.600 Started on the West Coast. 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.840 There are people who grow up in this world that 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.359 didn't know, you know, hip hop started in New York. 0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:50.160 That's how spoiled people are with West Coast culture. Most 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:54.000 people don't realize Kentucky Fried Chicken is an Americanized version 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:58.400 of soul food, a mainstream pop version of soul food. 0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.000 They don't know that. They just think that's soul food. 0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:08.479 Most people think Taco bell is Mexican food. People don't know, man, 0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:11.200 And you gotta understand why they wouldn't know, because they 0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:14.440 just don't know, straight up, bro, they don't fucking know, 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:15.920 and they don't got time to know it. Why the 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.160 fuck should they know? You can't even get mad that 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.920 people don't know or don't care. Why should they? 0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.000 What the fuck do it got to do with they life. 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:27.759 Now? 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:28.160 It's true. 0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.800 I mean, you go through the night club and it 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.719 saw drops, people start dancing, cares you know about the 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.080 backstory at that point, they haven't drink and danced some 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:39.920 good time whatever the genre music is, or the nightclub 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:40.480 for that matter. 0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:46.520 Yeah, So it's like, it's like the West Coast has 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:53.799 been producing legendary hip hop acts since eighty five, since 0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.480 Iced Tea, since Too Short. 0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:57.839 That's eighty three. 0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:02.160 That's eighty four and eighty five, right, like shit, The 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:06.120 last one is probably Kendrick or Tyler Tyler. Kendrick is 0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:10.120 twenty eleven, good Kid Messity. I think it's eleven or twelve. 0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:18.640 Tyler is probably thirteen fourteen, his first debut album come out, 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:23.960 like the Oshit Cat is probably sixteen seventeen. I mean, goddamn, 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.440 you can't have the ball all the time, bro, You 0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:31.400 cannot have the ball all the time. Bro, Everybody know us. 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:35.080 Everybody know us. We are not the ball of the 0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:38.319 ball anymore. Culturally, West Coast Street urban culture is not 0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:39.800 the bell of the ball anymore. 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:40.080 Bro. 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:42.799 We're trying to learn about other shit that we don't 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.959 know about. People don't care to keep learning. They don't 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.160 their desires not to take a deep dive into who 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:52.239 the founder of crips was. That's not their job. They 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:55.239 from another town. They got to figure out they own shit. 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:55.920 Culturally. 0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.800 Most people don't even shit. You could ask most people 0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.360 right now. Ask some of your homeboys. Shout out to 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:06.040 everybody in the chat. No Saler's live the lunch hour Monday, 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:10.799 Wednesday and Friday noon specific standard time. Click that thumbs up. 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.000 But ask some of your homies that game bang. If 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:17.400 you game, ask some homes that game bang. Nine percent 0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:23.200 of them niggas don't know who started their neighborhood. Don't 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:27.239 know the niggas who started their game, let alone to 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:28.959 know who started all this other shit. 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.000 Don't nobody got time for that. They don't. 0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.920 They're not looking for depth. That was the mistake I 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:38.040 made with two pot months Die. I thought people were 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.000 looking for depth into culture. 0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:40.840 They not. 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:44.720 Most people not looking for the best soul food restaurant. 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:48.600 They looking for the cheapest, most convenient soulful That's why 0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:50.560 they go to Kentucky Fried Chicken or. 0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:55.399 In other cases, they're looking for the restaurant that's got 0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:57.960 the most cache to take the selfiet. 0:55:59.080 --> 0:55:59.920 People don't come. 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.040 Here and go to Elouise and Ernestine's in Miami. They 0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:03.520 come here and go to the licking and take a 0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:07.360 picture because they're so original for going to the I 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:08.759 don't know what the fuck they want to go DJ 0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.200 Colors for, but they sure should do. 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.640 Shout out the name brand. That's why Drake works exactly. 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:21.839 Yeah, because he covers the surface of all culture which 0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.160 is mainstream and. 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.279 He got in with baby and then at the right 0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:30.080 time they knew the shit because they were forty five. 0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:32.640 Years old, exactly. It's a great point. 0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:37.839 Fucking tune was probably thirty four or something at the time. Yeah, 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:42.320 so they don't they're not digging deep into the cultures, 0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:44.920 you know what I mean. Uh. 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:47.399 Shout out to Unknown. 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.600 Raider Guy, Hey Glasses, speaking of Tupac months died, Did 0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:53.600 you really film the video at MGM? I did everything 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.080 through the location, Unknown Raider Guy. I went and shot 0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:59.960 it inside the MGM. I went shot it right out 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:03.800 side of it. I shot it all true the location, 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:06.600 everything through the location. I went to the Lakewood Mall 0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:10.960 for the flashback. That's the actual mall. So again, that's 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.520 one of them things that I understood as an artist 0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:16.360 that I am great at. But I also understood cultureally. 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:19.080 Why people I just learned, why people don't appreciate it. 0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:23.439 They're not into it that deep. That's why people got 0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:25.680 so mad about Tupac must die. In their mind, they 0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:28.440 didn't hear the nuance that I'm speaking of. They just 0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:31.160 heard glasses think it's okay that this nigga killed Tupac. 0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:32.040 That's all they heard. 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:36.880 That's highlighted and condensed, condensed and heightened. That's what they 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:40.520 think it means. 0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:41.560 You know what I'm saying. So that's the thing hip 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:42.080 hop is. 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:44.560 You know again, it's for people to make sense out 0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:49.560 of their own life, not about your life. It's so 0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:51.400 they can make sense out of their own life. How 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.960 do they use this for their own life? And most 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:56.400 people ain't gonna run into gang bangers, and you know, 0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:59.280 and they friends ain't finna jump a game banger that 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:01.520 storied me's nothing to them, you know what I'm saying. 0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:05.440 They don't have no meaning to them at all. But honestly, 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:08.320 I think the only thing that's wrong with West Coast 0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:12.160 hip hop is the whole world is spoiled by our 0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:15.680 culture already, our forefathers of this hip hop thing. This 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:19.760 is such a fantastic job that there is really nothing 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:25.560 to expose, so you really just plan the game where 0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.840 culturely you don't have anything much offer to you don't 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:30.080 have much things to offer. 0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.760 That's new, and I think that's also like what we 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:37.200 talked about when we go to Atlanta, Like there is. 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:38.120 A certain. 0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:44.920 Aspect to just LA's culture when you're there that is 0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:49.800 going to and you can define it any way you 0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.760 want to, all say, like it's going to remain true 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:58.600 to itself and there's going to be a certain the 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:02.760 appropriate word is, but it it doesn't just morphed and 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:06.320 evolve into anything at any time. It stays largely centered 0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:12.120 around its base and opposed to like by comparison Atlanta 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.240 that will morph and change into really anything. 0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:17.840 You know, al we say, but that's not even true, 0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:19.000 that's overstated. Right. 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.200 Let me get to this shout out to Beezy. Yeah, 0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:24.360 from a far surface level, it looked like he was 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.920 happy about pog dying when that song came out. And 0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:30.360 that's my point, because it takes a different type of 0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:34.440 human to understand nuance of something else outside of them. 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:36.200 That's not a standard thing. 0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.560 I'm starting to realize again it goes back to that 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.920 book that I've been raving about on this podcast, The 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:45.080 Anatomy of a Story by John Truby, where he talks 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:49.920 about that that's what they feel like. Shout out to 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.440 Madon Kemmick's my first time seeing you. How you just 0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:55.000 poked then't wonder why the West Coast is dead? You 0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:57.600 get it like it's not his fault. It's not his 0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:00.840 fault that he couldn't like it's not so fought, Madonna. 1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:04.560 You couldn't dissect the nuance of me explaining street urban 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:06.640 culture from the West and how we make sense out 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:09.200 of the way we live, versus you just thinking out 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:12.040 this pop. I couldn't even be upset at that, you 1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:14.400 know what I'm saying. It don't make like I get 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:16.440 it now, like I get where I went wrong. I 1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:18.840 went wrong because I tried to give you something that 1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:21.040 you could never understand. 1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:23.840 Or ask for. It's way past your you know. 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:25.480 What I mean, Like you got too much shit in 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:27.520 your own life to be worried about me giving you 1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:31.120 nuances of what going on, what's going on in our lives. 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:34.720 You just want the heightened and condensed version of how 1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:38.440 we live to make sense for your own mind. But 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:41.560 it's weird, like and I don't mean this as an insult, Bro, 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.280 it's weird that you know what I mean, people think 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:46.600 somebody like me, who if you hear any of my music, 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:49.080 I have all Tupac, DNA and my music, and I 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:51.600 talk about him with a different reverence that people would 1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:52.240 even think. 1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:53.040 I would this pop. 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:56.680 But it's not just you corrupt thought I this pop 1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:58.800 like that. Nigga was cussing me out when he first 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:00.720 heard the song. I was like, Bro, why the fuck 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:04.320 would you think I was this Tupac? Doctor Dre sat 1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:06.520 me down at the studio, was cussing me out because 1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:08.440 he thought I this Tupac. And I'm like, cause you've 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:10.520 been knowing me since I was a kid like that, 1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:12.600 Nigga knew me not a kid. I was twenty two 1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:15.800 when I met Doctor Drake. Nigga, why would you think 1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:18.320 I would this Tupac? How did how did you look 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:20.560 at that and think knowing me? You didn't talk to 1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:23.160 me all these times and think to yourself glasses with 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:25.880 insult Tupac. That's just crazy. 1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:29.000 You're the one who didn't put the parentheses on that. 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:34.560 If you put Tupac was die. The baby lame story no. 1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:36.680 One had a question, That's what it says. 1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:44.480 It says that, yes where on a YouTube, straight up. 1:01:44.600 --> 1:01:48.080 In the video or on the on the video, on 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:50.680 the title, it says that. 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:53.439 I'll pull this up right now. 1:01:53.680 --> 1:01:57.320 On the title it says that, no, lie, it says 1:01:57.360 --> 1:01:59.960 that it's not none of that. I'm telling you, fucking 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:04.400 John Truby is a genius, bro. John Truby is a genius. 1:02:05.800 --> 1:02:09.040 And I finally got it. It was like, Oh, they 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:15.480 not even hearing all of this shit. They just not 1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:18.439 even hearing all this shit. They not even reading it. 1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:22.040 They just again, people got their own lives to live. 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:25.760 They got their own lives to live, Bro, They don't 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:27.840 got time for nuance. You know what I'm saying. That 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:32.040 just ain't the thing. Shut out to the homie Revenge name. 1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:34.520 The classic album since two thousand and five from West 1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:37.640 Coast hip hop is just counting on one hand. Musically, 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:40.000 the South guy, the West Coast artists don't make classics. 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:47.520 Just k dot, you don't need new listen. The problem 1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:50.880 is first, that's just not true. Atlanta is going through 1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:53.120 the same thing. California is going through. Georgia is going 1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:55.280 through it. They haven't broken a new act in probably 1:02:55.440 --> 1:03:00.000 five or six years, because we're spoiled by Georgia culture. 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:04.160 We know everything about their streets culturally, we know what 1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:06.960 they're into, we know how they hustle, we know everything 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.040 about what they got going on, you know what I'm saying. 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:12.840 So that's normal for any New York is going through 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:16.840 the same thing anywhere where hip hop has been predominantly 1:03:17.160 --> 1:03:19.800 and just it's been so much West Coast, whether it's 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:24.440 the Bay Area or southern southern California culturally that you 1:03:24.480 --> 1:03:29.360 don't need new stuff from us anymore. You just don't, 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:32.480 and you don't care about revisiting the stuff we already 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:32.840 showed you. 1:03:32.880 --> 1:03:34.320 At this point. You spoiled by it. 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:37.440 You've had access to it a million times. So it's 1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:41.320 not about do they make classic albums? Can culturally it 1:03:41.400 --> 1:03:43.880 create a new space? Like do you really think it's 1:03:44.000 --> 1:03:46.200 just music and it's more than music? 1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:50.480 I think that's really true to a large degree. 1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:54.600 Like I don't get the sense that the genre in 1:03:54.680 --> 1:04:00.880 general is illuminating cities and the way it used to. 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.880 I could be tripping, but it's like I can't think 1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:07.160 of a city that, Like you said the same thing 1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:09.280 about Miami. You can say the same thing about New Orleans. 1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:11.360 They had windows that were putting out a bunch of stuff. 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:13.000 They were shining a line on This is how it 1:04:13.000 --> 1:04:14.680 really goes on here, you know what I mean? It's 1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:16.280 different here than there. You can kind of see it, 1:04:16.280 --> 1:04:21.040 and it's really interesting. I don't see it, like, I 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:23.160 don't really see it unless it's just like to me 1:04:23.200 --> 1:04:24.640 and like, there's a lot of people coming out of Memphis, 1:04:24.680 --> 1:04:26.800 but I don't necessarily think that there's a lot. 1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:29.600 Of Memphis coming out of them, if that makes me sense. 1:04:29.920 --> 1:04:31.040 But that's my point. 1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:34.320 That's also why if you look like Memphis, like you 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:37.480 gotta look at Southern California as a cultural movement and 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:46.080 you're talking about ice tea, Easy Nwa, Doctor Dre, Snoop Dogg, Like, like, 1:04:46.240 --> 1:04:50.160 think about how many legendary acts were in the first 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:54.320 seven or in the first ten years. Sure, like huge 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:59.280 legendary acts. Shout out to groups like A Ball and MJG. Right, 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:02.520 them guys who who really laid the foundation down for Memphis. 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:05.360 But you know they don't have the same stardom as 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:07.040 an ice Cube or a Snoop Dogg. 1:05:07.640 --> 1:05:09.240 We got guys that have the. 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:12.320 Same stardom Ice Tea is probably as big of a 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:14.200 star as Cute Like. 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:15.320 He's probably as. 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:18.720 Famous to maybe not quite, but he's on the same 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:22.919 level as Ice and Ice Cube Dog is fucking Iced Tea. 1:05:24.040 --> 1:05:28.959 He is famous, probably as Ice Tupop is probably as fair. 1:05:29.160 --> 1:05:34.120 The first ten years of West Coast hip hop too short, 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:37.920 Like this is crazy, Like we got ten people in 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:40.919 the first two years. Ten years, Memphis don't even have 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:44.160 one person as famous as Ice Tea. 1:05:44.440 --> 1:05:49.800 Memphis hip hop, that's the first guy, the. 1:05:49.680 --> 1:05:53.760 First Lord knows a Snoop Dogg or Ice Cube Memphis 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:54.280 hip hop. 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:56.800 For as great culturally as it is, they. 1:05:56.640 --> 1:06:00.640 Don't have one star as famous and as popular as 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:01.600 Ice Tea. 1:06:03.840 --> 1:06:04.560 Sure do I get that. 1:06:04.600 --> 1:06:07.280 I'm just saying, like, you know, I listened to like 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:10.479 say like a Pat or Gotti or something like that. 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:14.560 There was more Memphis in that music than now. It's 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:16.600 just music that's coming out of Memphis. But there's not 1:06:16.640 --> 1:06:18.480 a lot of Memphis that's coming out of the music. 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:20.200 And I feel like that's true. 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:20.960 In a lot of parts of it. 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:23.960 I think Memphis right with Glow. I think the culture 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:28.240 of how she enunciates words. But but that's my point too. 1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:31.720 Revenge I agree, we know the West Coast for classic albums, 1:06:31.720 --> 1:06:34.760 but not recently. That's my that's that's not the point. 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:39.760 Like culturally, what's happening is going to be important, Like right, 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:41.880 how new something is culturally to you? 1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:43.840 Like a Chief Key first album? 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:46.640 Right, finally famous, Like that's the beginning of the coach 1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:48.840 and then people learning. 1:06:48.560 --> 1:06:51.280 Culture, Like we pick up culture so fast. 1:06:51.000 --> 1:06:55.760 Now, like man, like it took years for certain things 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:58.600 to be popular when I was growing up, Like the 1:06:58.640 --> 1:07:01.480 way we acted, the way we talk away New York talk, 1:07:01.600 --> 1:07:04.080 it took years for it to get become popular and 1:07:04.080 --> 1:07:10.160 become mainstream. When the Chicago dudes starts saying, right, they 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:13.760 start saying putting ops in packs they smoking on like 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:16.080 the pack of an enemy. Right, They saying this person 1:07:16.120 --> 1:07:19.400 represents weed, and now that they passed away, I'm smoking 1:07:19.440 --> 1:07:20.480 this person's ashes. 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:23.080 Right, that's the thought. 1:07:23.280 --> 1:07:29.720 They were saying that on ESPN in twenty sixteen. I 1:07:29.920 --> 1:07:33.000 first heard it in twenty fourteen. They were saying it 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:38.480 in twenty sixteen. I've heard culture go so fast from 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:47.520 ground level to the news in two months. Sure you 1:07:47.560 --> 1:07:51.160 get what I'm saying. So again, there's nothing wrong with 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:54.720 hip hop on the West Coast. It's just it's our 1:07:54.800 --> 1:08:00.280 culture is mainstream to some degree. Now everybody has a 1:08:00.400 --> 1:08:02.120 version of our culture in their town. 1:08:03.320 --> 1:08:04.880 The things that we celebrate that. 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:08.520 Made it, that made us us, everybody has those things now. 1:08:11.600 --> 1:08:15.680 Everybody has those things now, Bro, everybody has those things. 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:18.880 Now. We can't even be proud of crips and bloods. 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:24.040 Bro, everybody got cripson bloods every town. There is no 1:08:24.120 --> 1:08:27.840 longer any social currency saying you're a crip in the blood. 1:08:28.240 --> 1:08:29.719 Everybody has those. 1:08:35.600 --> 1:08:40.720 Everybody has those just where it's at culturally, our forefathers 1:08:40.760 --> 1:08:41.200 did the. 1:08:41.160 --> 1:08:44.639 Best job our man. 1:08:45.240 --> 1:08:48.439 Like I said, Memphis culture is just as dense and 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:50.439 coarse as Los Angeles like. 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:52.360 They do things a Memphis way. 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:55.240 They dance a certain way, they music a certain way, 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.160 they talk a certain way, they acts in a certain way, 1:08:57.200 --> 1:08:59.960 they dress a certain way. Everything about them is identified. 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:02.479 You can see their cars, you can see all of 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:03.040 that stuff. 1:09:06.320 --> 1:09:07.000 You know what I'm saying. 1:09:07.160 --> 1:09:12.000 And again, Ice Tea is still more famous than everybody 1:09:12.000 --> 1:09:16.320 from their Culturely, that's the first guy from Los Angeles 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:23.479 street urban culture. So again, it's one of those things 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:28.760 where it's nothing wrong. Goddamn, they already did it. They 1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:32.400 already did it. It's a conversation to culture and everybody 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:35.680 got our version of their culture in their town. So 1:09:35.840 --> 1:09:38.120 just being a crip has no social currency no more. 1:09:39.000 --> 1:09:40.600 That's like right now, if you come out saying you 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:42.840 make drill music, it just probably won't hit the same 1:09:42.880 --> 1:09:45.760 because every England got a drill music. They don't even 1:09:45.800 --> 1:09:48.280 got guns, and they have a drill music in England. 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:50.760 They call it using drills. 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:55.160 They mean they are working on houses. 1:09:54.800 --> 1:10:00.000 Glasses to get where's the money? 1:10:01.840 --> 1:10:06.760 But think about this, right, It's like like UK has 1:10:06.880 --> 1:10:10.640 drill music and they don't have guns. New York is 1:10:10.640 --> 1:10:13.920 probably the worst town, the worst state in the United 1:10:13.960 --> 1:10:17.599 States and the whole Union that are the hardest on guns, 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:20.200 and it's the least amount of guns probably. 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:24.080 And they got drill music. You feel me. 1:10:24.120 --> 1:10:27.320 So it's one of those things. It's like, you know, 1:10:28.720 --> 1:10:36.280 the cultural peal is not there. Shout out to real 1:10:36.280 --> 1:10:39.000 settists who started this conversation, and I appreciate you being here. 1:10:39.080 --> 1:10:42.040 No sentners live to lunch hour. We're still cooking. Got 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:43.840 a little bit more time longst p ain't chipping, I 1:10:43.840 --> 1:10:47.120 ain't chipping. Wait a manu ain't nobody bought us lunch. 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:47.400 Neither. 1:10:47.800 --> 1:10:49.360 Don't make me get on here and be begging for 1:10:49.439 --> 1:10:52.240 y'all for no damn super CHATSI we talking to y'all 1:10:52.240 --> 1:10:53.800 could buy us lunch. I know you're sitting on your 1:10:53.800 --> 1:10:56.360 desk and click that little cash box under the comments 1:10:56.439 --> 1:10:57.240 buy us some lunch. 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:58.080 Don't be like that. 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:03.559 This wasn't a convo about numbers, only LA culture impact 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:05.040 from West Coast rap on hip hop. 1:11:05.080 --> 1:11:06.599 Well that's the point, right. It's like. 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:12.600 Hip hop is culture, so our culture, our street urban culture. 1:11:12.320 --> 1:11:17.240 Is over discovered, it's over revealed. So that's driving why 1:11:17.320 --> 1:11:17.960 the music is. 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:20.720 We don't have the excitement of who we are, Like 1:11:21.080 --> 1:11:24.559 a lot of excitement goes into marketing new right. Outside 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:26.280 of that, you have to figure out something else. So 1:11:26.320 --> 1:11:31.559 it's up to all West Coast artists too to You 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:36.080 have to figure out how to make it exciting. You 1:11:36.120 --> 1:11:38.040 gotta be on YouTube to do it. Set this, I'm sorry, 1:11:38.040 --> 1:11:40.240 you can't do it from Twitter, big dog. We don't 1:11:40.240 --> 1:11:44.320 got no ain't no thing on Twitter. But on the 1:11:44.360 --> 1:11:50.480 YouTube link, yeah, you could do it. Cav Yeah, but yeah, so. 1:11:52.000 --> 1:11:52.719 Drill music. 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:55.960 But that's the same thing. Like they had to run, 1:11:56.240 --> 1:11:58.200 you would have to go to the YouTube. So it 1:11:58.240 --> 1:11:59.640 wouldn't matter what j I phone. You got to do 1:11:59.680 --> 1:12:01.920 it from Cherry on bo LUNs bos lunch. 1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:06.640 Scherry be like that like that, they don't be like 1:12:06.680 --> 1:12:08.320 that Sharry's lunch. 1:12:08.520 --> 1:12:13.160 Uh, shout out to name brand. So real artists have 1:12:13.240 --> 1:12:15.160 no reason to be deep if no one is mining 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:19.000 for it. I mean deep, it is different, right, Deep 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:21.680 don't have to be the way we perceive it. Right, 1:12:21.720 --> 1:12:28.000 it's nuanced, it's nuanced. It's nuanced, you know what I'm saying. 1:12:28.080 --> 1:12:33.360 Nuance is not necessarily what people really are looking for. No, 1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:37.840 people really want their their stories heightened and condensed. And 1:12:37.880 --> 1:12:40.439 you can't be upset at them, bro, Like you can't 1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:42.400 be upset at them. Shout out to Sherry. She brought 1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:45.439 us some lunch. Ten donas, Thank you, Sherry, Thank y'all. 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:49.200 That's two burgers, my dog, Pete and Florida. So, I 1:12:49.200 --> 1:12:51.720 don't know how you ain't got up with him Peter 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:53.320 in Florida. I don't know how you ain't got share 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:57.200 that lady who moved to Florida. Yeah, you pulled her up, 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:04.640 and that's what's wrong. Like I'm with you said this. 1:13:04.720 --> 1:13:07.360 I don't think anything is wrong with West Coast hip hop. 1:13:07.360 --> 1:13:11.040 That's the point. I think I think everybody would do better. 1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:13.800 I think younger artists would do better to have the 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:17.680 wisdom and the knowledge and experience and the science that 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:20.719 the legends obviously like. How could you not be better 1:13:20.760 --> 1:13:22.880 off if you listen to ice Cube or Gotta answer 1:13:22.880 --> 1:13:25.080 out ice Cube about something you wanted to know or 1:13:25.120 --> 1:13:28.880 Snoop Dogg or Ice Team or exhibit. I mean, these 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:31.760 motherfuckers is millionaires and they've been doing this at this 1:13:32.040 --> 1:13:33.880 high level that they're platinum acts. 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:36.040 You know what I'm saying, film stars to some degree. 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:43.840 All of these guys I named are film stars. And 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:47.080 I think I think the legends could use especially because 1:13:47.080 --> 1:13:49.760 they're still releasing music. I think they could use the 1:13:49.880 --> 1:13:55.479 cultural renaissance and the and the modern interpretation and energy 1:13:55.560 --> 1:13:58.920 of a young person. I think everybody could benefit from it, 1:13:59.120 --> 1:14:01.759 you know what I'm saying. I think everybody could benefit 1:14:01.840 --> 1:14:06.599 from it. I think everybody could benefit from it, but 1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:09.880 they have to make a choice. I'm with you said this, 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:11.679 I go find my young homies. 1:14:11.880 --> 1:14:14.080 I go find the young homies, and I go work 1:14:14.120 --> 1:14:15.400 with them, you know what I mean. 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:17.599 Shout out to Joey and Deuce and the younger homies 1:14:17.640 --> 1:14:20.000 White Dog, and then my young homie out of pass it. 1:14:20.040 --> 1:14:23.040 Then I go find the young ones and I'm gonna 1:14:23.080 --> 1:14:24.920 go see Dre and I'm gonna go see Warren, and 1:14:24.920 --> 1:14:27.439 I'm gonna ask Warren how do I do this? I 1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:29.760 told them all to do the same thing. I think 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:31.439 it's a value in all of them. But if they 1:14:32.160 --> 1:14:35.479 if they don't realize they need each other and not 1:14:35.520 --> 1:14:38.679 even need Because a young artist Joe Moses is fine, 1:14:39.920 --> 1:14:43.240 yg is fine, you know what I'm saying, even younger, 1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:46.599 Let's let's go to Solk City a three to one. 1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:50.360 Oh baby, he's fine. Zoel Sama is fine. Zoel Sama 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:52.920 don't have to talk to me, you know what I'm saying. 1:14:53.000 --> 1:14:55.519 But could he benefit from talking to Glasses? 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:55.880 Yes? 1:14:56.080 --> 1:14:58.439 Because could he benefit from talking to Snoop Yes? Could 1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:00.240 he benefit from talking to Bactin Hell? 1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:01.400 Yeah? 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:07.360 But it's up to you to make that decision. Shout 1:15:07.400 --> 1:15:09.040 out to Sherry. Sherry said, oh no, I ain't gonna 1:15:09.040 --> 1:15:11.800 just leave y'all with no burger. Got us some fries too. 1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:14.439 That's my dog. That's why I let Sherry cuts me 1:15:14.479 --> 1:15:15.599 out on Live bro. 1:15:16.200 --> 1:15:18.800 Damn right, And you keep it up. Don't give him up. 1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:20.400 You don't take off nobody. 1:15:20.479 --> 1:15:22.240 Yeah, Triven Sherry cuts me out. 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:24.800 Shout out to Squishy, our number one supporter in our 1:15:24.800 --> 1:15:27.479 original She send me a bunch of screenshots where she 1:15:27.560 --> 1:15:30.240 had tweeted us and I never saw it. 1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:33.280 Squisher could cuss us out any day of the week. 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:33.800 Fucking right. 1:15:33.840 --> 1:15:35.640 And we're gonna barbecue for Squish when we do the 1:15:35.640 --> 1:15:38.240 No Sillers Barbecue next year. Because we're gonna do a 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:40.439 No Sellis barbecue, y'all gonna have to fly in town. 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:42.559 Yep, come up, flying town. 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:45.360 We're gonna do a No Siller's Barbecue, and uh, we're 1:15:45.400 --> 1:15:47.280 gonna make sure we hook it. I got you, Squiz. 1:15:47.320 --> 1:15:50.920 We're gonna do some good stuff. Shout out to real settings. 1:15:51.000 --> 1:15:53.200 I just want to keep the Golden Age window open. 1:15:53.360 --> 1:15:55.679 I'm with you, set it and I just think it's 1:15:55.680 --> 1:16:00.400 hard because we're fighting like a monumental job. That snoop 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:04.320 ice ta ice q eazy e n w A m 1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:08.360 C A coolio. They did a monumental job. Not to mention, 1:16:08.439 --> 1:16:10.519 we had Hollywood, you know what I mean. We had 1:16:10.640 --> 1:16:13.960 John Singleton, We had you know, people like the dude 1:16:13.960 --> 1:16:14.799 who made Colors. 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:18.000 Who directed? Is that Sean directed that? Somebody directed that? 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:21.400 Like we've had like the the the Hughes Brothers, they 1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:27.040 culturally have revealed West Coast Street urban lifestyle to another level. 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.040 So it's like we are fighting, you know what I mean, 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:35.680 Like really great jobs by like by entertainment giants, like 1:16:35.800 --> 1:16:40.040 Snoop is the greatest hip hop artist ever, Like it's great, 1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:43.160 Like he's done a fantastic job. Because doctor Dre like 1:16:43.640 --> 1:16:48.840 DJ Quick, fantastic job. So you know, shit, you gotta 1:16:49.000 --> 1:16:55.479 you gotta be creative. Shout out to the Tomie Fast Yes, 1:16:55.640 --> 1:17:00.519 Sherry from Compton, that is Sharry from Compton. Uh real, 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:02.639 sudden see you know of these guys we don't bro 1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:05.120 you got it. You just got to do your homework. 1:17:05.560 --> 1:17:07.920 Shout out to Nick Man. I appreciate the five dollars. 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:11.519 That's good lunches today. Salute g and the West East 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:14.160 shot that part right there, player that part right there. 1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:17.080 I had to tell a Homi Sutus because Sutus was like, yeah, 1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:20.160 I'm from He was like, respectfully, I'm from Compton, you know, 1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:22.639 I mean I'm from Willerdbrook and Greenley. If I'm like yeah, nigga, 1:17:22.680 --> 1:17:24.840 I'm from Oleander and Carwell Nigga. 1:17:24.840 --> 1:17:26.200 I went to Kennedy and Walton. 1:17:26.520 --> 1:17:28.519 People know I'm from Watts, but they don't realize I 1:17:28.520 --> 1:17:31.600 grew up in Compton the same. So I know I 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:34.680 remember having Toddy t in Spain and Nwa and not 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:37.360 really tripping off or not really tripping off of them 1:17:37.400 --> 1:17:41.439 being from Compton until quick. So you know we spoiled 1:17:41.479 --> 1:17:43.559 too because we come up in a fray of it all. 1:17:44.479 --> 1:17:46.840 Shout out to Don Duff for the five dollars. Appreciate it. 1:17:46.920 --> 1:17:49.960 Don we cooking were getting the work. Shout out to 1:17:50.000 --> 1:17:53.240 b Bray. Snoop was a double aged getting diggler, getting 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:56.200 diddled for the dollar, never standing in his own two feet, 1:17:56.240 --> 1:17:58.680 jumping from label to label. Protection Now that's gangster it 1:17:59.160 --> 1:18:03.479 he Bray, that's for it's a business. That's just don't 1:18:03.479 --> 1:18:06.400 be crazy like him signing record deals because he don't 1:18:06.400 --> 1:18:08.720 know how to run a record label. Is incredible. That's 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:10.719 why he's the greatest hip hop act ever. 1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:15.680 James of hip hop. He's got ringsed. 1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:19.919 Like he's a champion. 1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:22.960 Bro, He's the greatest, Like you know what I mean, Like, Uh, 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:26.240 somebody asked a question about death row let me find 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:27.439 that question about death Row. 1:18:27.520 --> 1:18:31.599 That was a dope question. Where is it at? 1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:35.280 Somebody asked me, do I think death Row can recapture glory? 1:18:35.320 --> 1:18:38.000 And I'm like, I think Snoop is going the right direction. 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:40.680 I think he's finding certain type of R and B 1:18:40.880 --> 1:18:44.160 acts and he's really he got some real talent too. 1:18:44.280 --> 1:18:46.960 He didn't just get popular people. He got people that 1:18:47.000 --> 1:18:50.760 had these unique sounds and you know, you look at 1:18:50.760 --> 1:18:53.439 a couple of actually got some of this stuff can happen. 1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:57.719 I mean like, like, yes, I think. And it's weird 1:18:57.760 --> 1:19:01.920 because that was Shig's visions. Three Pops like Sug was 1:19:02.320 --> 1:19:04.040 he wanted to do R and B because I think 1:19:04.080 --> 1:19:08.000 one of Shug's greatest influences. I never asked him. I'm 1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:09.720 ask him. We need to get him on here. 1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:14.880 But to the Francis Phone interview. 1:19:14.920 --> 1:19:16.439 Yeah, we can probably get him on here. We get 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:18.880 big Pops to do it. 1:19:18.920 --> 1:19:21.840 He ain't tripping, but I'm saying I think Snoop is 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:25.720 fulfilling the last legacy that Shug. 1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:26.600 Wanted for an R and B. 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:28.720 And that's why if you look at him, he's doing 1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:31.040 the legendary acts right. He gave you the east side 1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:34.400 of his album Dog food Snoop Dog album Trip Off 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:39.120 This Death Row Aftermath Innerscope is released in Missionary. 1:19:40.600 --> 1:19:42.240 That's historical coup in itself. 1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:47.599 Yeah, that's historical in itself. Much loved to Dangster. Shout 1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:50.000 out Sherry for the major support to the channels. Sherry 1:19:50.040 --> 1:19:51.600 support me in real life. That's the only reason I 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:53.439 let her cuts me out and I never say nothing 1:19:54.400 --> 1:19:56.639 real set has called me crazy. But house parties played 1:19:56.640 --> 1:19:59.320 a big part in developing younger artists and cultivating a 1:19:59.320 --> 1:20:02.360 fan base. No one owns houses anymore. But great point, 1:20:02.439 --> 1:20:05.760 and said is no, he makes a great point. I'll 1:20:05.760 --> 1:20:07.640 be telling my homeboys this in the group chat. They 1:20:07.640 --> 1:20:09.160 didn't pissed me off, and I ain't been talking to 1:20:09.280 --> 1:20:14.600 him because they just stubborn as fuck. But like the 1:20:14.640 --> 1:20:18.639 West Coast hip hop scene had a foundation where the 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:21.320 party right. So whether it was at a house or 1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:28.040 at a club right, that was the infrastructure on how 1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:30.839 we broke records, all our records. 1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:34.360 The core of our sound is rooted in funk. The core. 1:20:35.280 --> 1:20:37.760 Obviously you got eight who got some different stuff. You 1:20:37.840 --> 1:20:39.680 got warned who she could be a little jazzy, but 1:20:39.680 --> 1:20:42.840 it's still funky. But for the most part, the core 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:46.240 of our you know, sound is funk. 1:20:46.400 --> 1:20:47.959 So the party was everything. 1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:52.840 Our party scene kind of died because we adopted. 1:20:53.560 --> 1:20:56.120 Now this is my personal thing. As matter of fact. 1:20:56.120 --> 1:20:58.880 We can hold this for Friday, but I'll just visit 1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:01.519 it real fast. Why that the party died? Shout out 1:21:01.520 --> 1:21:05.080 to little bro Dot Kendrick. He dropped watched the party die. 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:07.640 Now I think Friday we should talk about why the 1:21:07.680 --> 1:21:08.360 party is dying. 1:21:08.640 --> 1:21:10.719 I have I have an answer for that myself. 1:21:10.800 --> 1:21:12.360 That's gonna be great. So we're gonna hold it to 1:21:12.400 --> 1:21:12.760 next week. 1:21:12.800 --> 1:21:17.040 But I think the party dying is also hurting the 1:21:17.080 --> 1:21:19.240 West Coast because the core. 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:22.280 Of our sound was rooted in funk. That was the foundation. 1:21:22.880 --> 1:21:26.760 Now you gotta be creative and remember, Kendrick sound is 1:21:26.800 --> 1:21:31.200 not rooted in funk. Tyler sound is not rooted in funk. 1:21:32.640 --> 1:21:35.360 Uh uh, what's the what's the cistern? 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:35.800 She from? 1:21:35.840 --> 1:21:38.400 She from La too, She's from the valley. She got 1:21:38.439 --> 1:21:41.360 to paint the town doja cats. Sound is not rooted 1:21:41.400 --> 1:21:46.880 in funk. It's not rooted in funk. So where is 1:21:46.920 --> 1:21:48.639 the West hip hop without funk? 1:21:49.240 --> 1:21:49.360 So? 1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:54.160 And what's funk without the party? True? You know what 1:21:54.200 --> 1:21:56.840 I'm saying, what's funk without the party? 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:59.519 Shout out to Revene what we say glasses hip hop 1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:01.880 needs a new Where's the new classic album? Where's the 1:22:01.920 --> 1:22:04.600 new Doctor Dre? Where's the new Snoop? Where is the 1:22:04.640 --> 1:22:05.360 new Top Dog? 1:22:05.439 --> 1:22:05.560 Is it? 1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:06.320 Pg lang? 1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:09.599 Where's the West Coast at? Where's the West Coast at? 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:11.800 Nipsey and DoD had it? But where the new twenty 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:13.000 three year old with the classic? 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:17.559 I mean that's for a lot of density and time. 1:22:17.640 --> 1:22:21.519 I mean there's not any place that's producing that degree 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:22.000 of density. 1:22:22.080 --> 1:22:25.120 There's always a gap, you know. 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:29.679 I mean, what's the new culture that we should say? 1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:33.000 Let's let's pull it away from artists. Let's stop making 1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:35.920 it like Doctor Dre is the star Let's stop making 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:38.559 it like Snoop Dogg is the star Let's not make 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:41.000 it like top Dog is the star Let's not make 1:22:41.000 --> 1:22:44.479 it like Nipsey Hustle is the star or Kadok. Let's 1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:49.479 make the culture the star Let's make the stuff that 1:22:49.640 --> 1:23:00.160 TOOKI Raymond Terry Goudo, Peabody from Lanes, Let's make that 1:23:00.320 --> 1:23:05.599 the star the culture the star Let's make baby Gangster 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:07.640 from Santana. 1:23:07.680 --> 1:23:09.879 Shout out to the old Gummy. Let's make. 1:23:11.479 --> 1:23:15.360 Hancho not not not Big brother Hancho, but Hancho from 1:23:15.360 --> 1:23:20.760 Great They are the stars, Turtle from Santana. That's who 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:25.920 the stars were. The culture is the star, So the 1:23:26.080 --> 1:23:31.040 artists represent the culture. Pudding and tam Or was a star. 1:23:31.240 --> 1:23:33.520 Mob James and his Prime. 1:23:33.400 --> 1:23:33.960 Was a star. 1:23:34.240 --> 1:23:38.280 That lifestyle is the star. That's what everybody fell in 1:23:38.320 --> 1:23:41.960 love with. The artists don't do nothing but artistically express 1:23:42.360 --> 1:23:45.719 the culture. So where is the new culture? 1:23:45.800 --> 1:23:46.040 Now? 1:23:47.000 --> 1:23:50.280 That's you know, the Doctor DREDA chronic album is rooted 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:54.679 around us standing up and fighting outside of gang banging 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:57.160 and the way we lived our lives, but also us 1:23:57.160 --> 1:24:00.600 standing up against you know, the state of California for 1:24:00.840 --> 1:24:03.680 not convicting the police officers over Rodney King. That's what 1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:06.639 made the Chronic the chronic. The culture is the start. 1:24:07.320 --> 1:24:10.400 The culture is the leader of hip hop. So you 1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:13.320 don't get all of that stuff. You don't get the 1:24:13.439 --> 1:24:16.880 classic albums without a classic culture. You don't get a 1:24:17.000 --> 1:24:21.559 classic artist without classic culture. You gotta really figure out 1:24:21.680 --> 1:24:25.360 where is the culture at That's the trick. And I've 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:30.400 been thinking real deep about this. I've been thinking real 1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:33.120 deep about this shout out to Fats. I love this podcast. 1:24:33.160 --> 1:24:35.240 I learned something new every episode. That's the gold. 1:24:35.280 --> 1:24:40.440 Fats like I I'm. 1:24:38.720 --> 1:24:41.160 Here to teach bro, I'm here to pass information. I'm 1:24:41.200 --> 1:24:43.120 here to tell you what doctor Dre told me. Because 1:24:43.160 --> 1:24:45.760 Doctor Dre may not tell you, Snoop may not tell you. 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:47.960 I'm gonna tell you what they told me. You gonna 1:24:47.960 --> 1:24:50.599 get it from me. I'm gonna tell you when me 1:24:50.640 --> 1:24:52.000 and Kill sing that, I'm gonna tell you what he 1:24:52.080 --> 1:24:54.000 told me. I'm gonna give y'all the gang I tell 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:56.519 y'all with Mac Tien tell me all the time. I'm 1:24:56.560 --> 1:24:59.400 gonna pass the wisdom to you because I know that 1:24:59.720 --> 1:25:01.920 I'm may not be the person to use it and 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:03.280 you may be able to use it. 1:25:05.360 --> 1:25:08.600 I think one story that's not been told yet in 1:25:08.720 --> 1:25:11.320 hip hop, out of LA that has a lot of potential, 1:25:12.439 --> 1:25:15.600 like in its era, like I mean like a timeframe, 1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:20.240 you know what I mean, like LA and gang culture 1:25:20.280 --> 1:25:21.599 and a lot of the stuff that was going on 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:28.360 had it's It was visually, optically, structurally, culturally so unique 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:31.280 relative to any other place, you know, it was. It 1:25:31.400 --> 1:25:38.839 was more something that you could it had a brand, 1:25:39.080 --> 1:25:43.040 you know what I'm saying more than other places. One 1:25:43.040 --> 1:25:47.519 thing that La has that other cities don't have to 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:51.280 that degree. In the era of female rappers, LA has 1:25:51.360 --> 1:25:56.879 the sleaziest, hustling, ass conniving who ass bitches like nobody 1:25:56.920 --> 1:25:59.200 else in this country. And one of them needs to 1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:00.479 make a goddamn them album. 1:26:00.880 --> 1:26:02.120 It needs to be a group of them. 1:26:02.680 --> 1:26:06.520 Yeah, I mean, like the second place city is probably 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:09.320 the one I'm in now well, and and the Bay, 1:26:09.439 --> 1:26:13.640 the Bay, but the Bay is still La women or 1:26:13.680 --> 1:26:16.040 seven La and Miami really got it, but there needs 1:26:16.080 --> 1:26:18.280 to be La needs to do city girls in the 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:20.439 way that it really doesn't. The thing about like I 1:26:20.479 --> 1:26:26.280 feel like Miami, it's so physically narrow geographically, you could 1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:31.000 be the most like hood rat ass chick and you 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:34.840 like fucking a mile and a half, you know, you 1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:37.479 have nowhere to go, Like you go in any direction, 1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:41.120 you can only go you're alligators or you're you know, 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:46.120 at fucking carbones getting a seven thousand dollars, you know, 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:48.120 steak dinner or something like that. 1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:52.760 They immediately race there. They get there so fast. They're 1:26:52.800 --> 1:26:53.320 in La. 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:58.519 It's so big, it's like you can stay like an 1:26:58.560 --> 1:27:02.400 insular street hustling woman much longer, you know, would have 1:27:02.479 --> 1:27:03.400 a bigger story. 1:27:03.600 --> 1:27:04.760 And the way that they do it. 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:06.760 It's it's not like, oh, I just happened to get 1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:09.240 on the train with some ass cheeks hanging out and 1:27:09.240 --> 1:27:11.280 then like some rich lawyer threw me into his car 1:27:11.320 --> 1:27:13.360 because I'll have to go fifty feet to find him. 1:27:13.520 --> 1:27:15.960 Like you have to have real crafts and ship and 1:27:16.120 --> 1:27:18.960 real angles and real game out there, and they got 1:27:19.000 --> 1:27:20.040 more of other places. 1:27:20.160 --> 1:27:22.400 Man, that's my little homegirl, Creana. There was some stuff 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:26.439 in a prime that's a great point, and we need 1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:29.760 to find that. That's something we should offer the world. Uh, 1:27:29.840 --> 1:27:32.400 shout out to name brand. Like you said, we spoiled 1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:35.840 from having all this party culture. Well that spoils the 1:27:36.000 --> 1:27:40.240 artists and the business, so you don't learn marketing. The 1:27:40.280 --> 1:27:43.360 rest of the country is spoiled from West Coast street 1:27:43.479 --> 1:27:44.360 urban culture. 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:47.479 Period, so they don't really value it. It's like if you. 1:27:51.600 --> 1:27:53.960 Like, human beings are not is it fair to say, pete, 1:27:54.040 --> 1:27:57.680 human beings are not naturally uh the two it is 1:27:57.720 --> 1:28:01.559 like they're not they're not grateful, Like is it fair 1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:04.240 to say, like they tend to neglect things that happen 1:28:04.360 --> 1:28:07.120 so easy, like waking up two thousand percent. 1:28:07.280 --> 1:28:14.960 I mean that, I think it's really observable. You see the. 1:28:13.120 --> 1:28:18.599 Degree of faith and religion decline as you go up 1:28:18.640 --> 1:28:22.479 in tax brackets. The more people achieve and the more 1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:24.559 that they're blessed with, the more they think it's them 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:28.000 being special, and the less they think it's circumstance being 1:28:28.200 --> 1:28:32.000 for tuitous for their ability to, you know, do something special. 1:28:32.640 --> 1:28:34.400 Did he say, where's a new top Dog? 1:28:35.680 --> 1:28:39.000 I mean, goddamn, how many top dog do you think 1:28:39.040 --> 1:28:46.000 you're gonna get? You got easy, you got shug Nite, right, 1:28:47.479 --> 1:28:54.760 you got Tony Lange, you got top Dog? 1:28:54.800 --> 1:28:57.120 Got how many more all time. 1:28:57.000 --> 1:28:59.400 Great black executives and hip hop do you think you're 1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:00.440 gonna get? 1:29:01.080 --> 1:29:04.240 Like you just spoiled? Y'all just spoiled. 1:29:04.880 --> 1:29:07.880 You don't realize how great you know Dude Dog is, 1:29:08.080 --> 1:29:10.880 or how great should Not is, or how great Puff 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:11.519 Daddy is. 1:29:11.840 --> 1:29:13.000 You take him for granted. 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:18.519 You probably don't even deserve that type of excellence. And 1:29:18.600 --> 1:29:21.000 black men from where we come from, because the way 1:29:21.040 --> 1:29:24.000 you treat the ones we have now, it's no way 1:29:24.040 --> 1:29:26.640 you give top Dog the credit that he deserves. If 1:29:26.680 --> 1:29:29.040 you think you're gonna get another top dog, you don't 1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:31.360 think you gonna get another Jordan. You don't think you're 1:29:31.360 --> 1:29:34.400 gonna get another Lebron, but you think you're gonna get 1:29:34.400 --> 1:29:37.639 a new top Dog. You lucky, you have Dude Dog 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:40.559 from Bonnie on It. You lucky, you have top Dog Entertainment. 1:29:41.360 --> 1:29:43.200 He could have died, he could have been killed in 1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:44.720 a war, He could have went to prison for the 1:29:44.760 --> 1:29:46.400 rest of his life for the stuff that we had 1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:49.080 to do to be alive at this point, to live 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:51.880 to to you know, the things we had to do 1:29:51.920 --> 1:29:52.519 to survive. 1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:54.360 You lucky you got him. 1:29:54.400 --> 1:29:56.479 And you don't even treat it like you lucky because 1:29:56.520 --> 1:30:00.599 you don't understand the nuance of exactly what what's going 1:30:00.680 --> 1:30:01.160 on here. 1:30:02.000 --> 1:30:02.840 You know what I'm saying, and. 1:30:02.760 --> 1:30:06.400 That's the truth. Like, you're lucky, you got a top 1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:10.200 Dog Entertainment. You're lucky, you have a brilliant mind like 1:30:10.280 --> 1:30:14.240 dude Dog to run it. Women are currently dominating hip hop? 1:30:14.280 --> 1:30:16.920 Why are there no West Coast women in hip hop? 1:30:16.960 --> 1:30:20.240 Shout out to Sherry. I think it's because culturally, like 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:23.840 Peters saying, you have to figure out, you have to 1:30:23.880 --> 1:30:29.400 figure out culturally what you're gonna represent, and once you 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:31.080 figure that out, you'll be good. 1:30:31.320 --> 1:30:33.760 And I think there's a little bit of resistance. 1:30:35.000 --> 1:30:39.840 At that level because la in California does have that 1:30:39.960 --> 1:30:42.480 kind of pimp glamorization mentality. 1:30:42.560 --> 1:30:43.960 There is gonna be a little bit. 1:30:43.880 --> 1:30:47.080 Of resistance to whole glamorization mentality to a degree, and 1:30:47.120 --> 1:30:48.800 some of that's gonna come out in some of that music. 1:30:48.840 --> 1:30:51.920 You know what I mean, facts shout out to name brand, 1:30:52.000 --> 1:30:54.200 that's deep. What's the new culture? If the party is 1:30:54.240 --> 1:30:58.280 dead businessmen and ball players, there's no culture in that stuff. Again, 1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:00.880 that's a whole nother conversation that we have to tackle 1:31:00.920 --> 1:31:05.799 on another day. West Coast is the culture. The party 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:07.840 is the outro of the current state of rap. We 1:31:07.960 --> 1:31:11.960 end no like the street urban culture is, you know, 1:31:12.080 --> 1:31:15.639 skaters or gang gang banging, like the way people dress 1:31:15.680 --> 1:31:19.000 and act and talk. A party was the way we 1:31:19.200 --> 1:31:23.200 kind of lived our lives. Like funk was what the 1:31:23.720 --> 1:31:26.280 West Coast hip hop singing in a mask was built 1:31:26.320 --> 1:31:29.120 off of the music, and funk is. 1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:32.080 Rooted in the party. So the party it worked together. 1:31:32.520 --> 1:31:36.960 But without the party, the music we make it doesn't 1:31:37.000 --> 1:31:40.200 have a natural place to travel. It becomes independent. Like 1:31:40.240 --> 1:31:43.360 you gotta think, what's breaking music now is TikTok. The 1:31:43.439 --> 1:31:45.960 last big West Coast song was Soak City three ten 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:49.360 Baby that got broke off social media. I mean, I 1:31:49.400 --> 1:31:51.559 don't remember the last time I heard the song break 1:31:51.880 --> 1:31:54.920 in just la parties like they were everybody was doing 1:31:54.960 --> 1:31:56.280 the dance to Soak City. 1:31:56.800 --> 1:31:57.439 You know what I'm saying. 1:31:57.479 --> 1:32:00.280 That's what broke that song that he has great record 1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:02.280 since then he asked records to me. The last two 1:32:02.320 --> 1:32:06.000 records three ten Baby put out are way better than 1:32:06.040 --> 1:32:09.400 Soak City. But because we don't have the infrastructure anymore 1:32:09.520 --> 1:32:12.479 to make records work, because the party is dying, which 1:32:12.520 --> 1:32:15.439 is we'll talk and tackle that on Friday. Cuz, like 1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:18.400 those songs are not getting as big as Silk City. 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:23.080 It's just what it is. It's just fucked up, you 1:32:23.120 --> 1:32:23.639 know what I'm saying. 1:32:23.680 --> 1:32:25.800 It's tough. 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:31.360 Shout out to revenge. Yes we do, Yes we do. 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:33.600 The get those glasses. What's the point of cherish and 1:32:33.600 --> 1:32:36.040 culture and hip hop and passing it down? That's what 1:32:36.040 --> 1:32:38.880 we're in it for. We have the new hip hop 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:41.400 Michael Jordan Lebron did happen, and then Steph Curry came. 1:32:41.920 --> 1:32:44.559 But that's the point. That's why you only get one 1:32:44.640 --> 1:32:49.080 guy you don't get a thousand guys, and you're not 1:32:49.200 --> 1:32:50.400 going to get a Michael Jordan. 1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:52.479 You lucky you got Kobe. That was the closest thing. 1:32:52.560 --> 1:32:54.639 You're not going to get a Lebron You're not going 1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:55.840 to get another Steph Curry. 1:32:56.240 --> 1:32:58.320 That's why you should appreciate them. 1:32:58.960 --> 1:33:01.360 An interesting thing about ain't number one, as there can 1:33:01.439 --> 1:33:03.880 only be one. 1:33:03.320 --> 1:33:04.400 Because it's number one. 1:33:05.240 --> 1:33:08.479 Shout out to Dick Griffy Recipes, to that legend Solar Records. 1:33:08.479 --> 1:33:09.360 Go do your homework. 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:13.280 Uh, Kamalia is amazing and she is doing incredible And 1:33:14.240 --> 1:33:15.720 it's funny because I want to have her on the 1:33:15.720 --> 1:33:18.240 pod because she was talking about two Pac must die. 1:33:18.560 --> 1:33:20.720 I'm just gonna you know what, fuck I made a 1:33:20.720 --> 1:33:26.599 decision right now. I'm gonna find some Blazian looking chick 1:33:26.640 --> 1:33:28.840 from the valley who's got a lot of body. I'm 1:33:28.840 --> 1:33:31.280 gonna say you look, your new rap name is sugar Baby. 1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:35.160 Here's the I will write the lyrics for you. Go 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:37.800 dress fly ship, Go in there, say that, get in 1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:40.080 front of a camera, look that way, saying this piece 1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:41.519 of paper here that I wrote for you. 1:33:41.560 --> 1:33:43.679 We're gonna go make a goddamn record. That's what's gonna 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:44.160 have to happen. 1:33:44.640 --> 1:33:46.760 Shout out to Don Dub, what's up, big dog, and 1:33:46.920 --> 1:33:51.040 thank you for that lunch bonus lunch. There is though 1:33:51.280 --> 1:33:53.799 TD for dough she nominated, but do she from Florida? 1:33:54.880 --> 1:33:58.519 And again that's that's top and and and moves and 1:33:58.520 --> 1:34:01.320 and and the homies going to work. You're not gonna 1:34:01.360 --> 1:34:03.840 get that often. That's not gonna happen. That's why you 1:34:03.880 --> 1:34:06.599 have to value what you have. Y'all gotta stop trying 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:08.680 to move on to the next thing so easy and 1:34:08.760 --> 1:34:09.720 value what you have. 1:34:10.520 --> 1:34:11.880 Like that's the lack. 1:34:11.680 --> 1:34:17.040 Of gratuitous that's the lack of gratuit that like, you 1:34:17.040 --> 1:34:19.320 don't have a grateful attitude. Shut out to the name brand. 1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:23.200 Yeah night crying for sure. You know what I'm saying. 1:34:23.240 --> 1:34:26.960 So you have to really understand the greatness you're witnessing. 1:34:27.280 --> 1:34:29.280 That was something I had to do though, So I'm 1:34:29.280 --> 1:34:33.320 not mad at you, uh revenge, I'm not upset like 1:34:34.000 --> 1:34:36.519 you have to learn like I I. It took like 1:34:36.640 --> 1:34:39.479 snoop with somebody perfect example. Before we get out of here, 1:34:39.600 --> 1:34:41.160 we're gonna we're gonna leave in five minutes, so we 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:42.640 canna let y'all get back to work. I know you 1:34:42.760 --> 1:34:45.479 at your desk. You done finish eating your lunch. You're 1:34:45.520 --> 1:34:47.880 still watching your boss gonna walk by. You know what 1:34:47.880 --> 1:34:49.240 I'm saying. So I ain't gonna get you in trouble. 1:34:49.240 --> 1:34:51.240 We gonna get yall five more minutes and then Friday 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:53.040 we back discussing. 1:34:53.080 --> 1:34:53.559 I'm gonna call. 1:34:54.040 --> 1:34:55.680 I'm gonna call Kendrick can see if he'll hop on 1:34:55.680 --> 1:34:57.599 the live. I don't think he will, but I'm gonna 1:34:57.600 --> 1:34:59.960 ask him so we could talk about LA's party scene 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:07.080 and how we saw it coming up. Gosh, what was 1:35:07.080 --> 1:35:12.960 my thought? What was I finna talk? Snoop Dogg said 1:35:12.960 --> 1:35:15.479 out to Evince k out is thirty seven. But you 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:19.559 you're you're missing the greatness of Dojah Cat. Thojah Cat 1:35:19.680 --> 1:35:24.400 is happening right now. Thojah Cat is happening right now, 1:35:25.080 --> 1:35:26.720 So you're missing it. 1:35:26.760 --> 1:35:27.120 Stop. 1:35:27.439 --> 1:35:29.560 You know it's something new there too, you know what 1:35:29.600 --> 1:35:32.240 I mean. So again, so let me let me get 1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:35.200 this last point out. So I'm gonna tell you Snoop 1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:38.080 was the artist. Bro Ironically, this is crazy because again, 1:35:38.080 --> 1:35:39.759 like I said, I'm finna go check out this record 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:43.160 with them. Snoop was somebody I was always spoiled by 1:35:43.479 --> 1:35:46.519 I never tripped off Snoop as a rapper, not like 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:49.280 I didn't enjoy his music, you know what I mean, 1:35:49.479 --> 1:35:52.559 and play his songs and you. 1:35:52.520 --> 1:35:54.200 Know all of that. 1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:57.040 Obviously I heard more Snoop Dogg music than anybody else, 1:35:57.400 --> 1:35:59.760 but I didn't really look at him like I looked 1:35:59.760 --> 1:36:03.200 at rappers from somewhere else because I didn't understand. 1:36:02.840 --> 1:36:05.880 What hip hop was. So again, all this Snoop. 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:08.320 Dogg music I'm digesting, I would have never named Snoop 1:36:08.360 --> 1:36:11.320 Dogg in my top three out of named ice Cube, 1:36:11.520 --> 1:36:17.480 who kind of seemed a little different, Jay Z and Scarface. 1:36:18.080 --> 1:36:18.280 Right. 1:36:19.000 --> 1:36:24.000 So, the more I started to learn about hip hop 1:36:24.120 --> 1:36:26.519 and it being street urban culture, being in the Bronx 1:36:26.760 --> 1:36:29.960 with the legendary dudes from Spade couple real dope brothers 1:36:29.960 --> 1:36:34.439 I got to meet, and the Eric Bees and all 1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:37.160 of these legends, and they started to really help me 1:36:37.240 --> 1:36:41.280 understand what hip hop was. Everything that Snoop Dogg was 1:36:41.720 --> 1:36:45.720 started to shine brighter and brighter for me. Right, And 1:36:45.840 --> 1:36:49.920 I looked one day and after all this information, I 1:36:50.000 --> 1:36:53.280 looked and I was like, Oh, it's this motherfucker And 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:58.680 if you really think about what hip hop is, that 1:36:58.880 --> 1:37:04.519 is what it is. He has never turned his back 1:37:04.640 --> 1:37:07.599 on the coaching. He never denounced where he came from, 1:37:08.040 --> 1:37:12.599 how he grew up, none of the above. That is 1:37:12.840 --> 1:37:16.240 what it is, Ice Tea. When you look at SVU, 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:19.880 shout out to og. When you look up Low Nord 1:37:19.960 --> 1:37:24.080 SVU and they don't say Tracy Morrow, it don't say 1:37:24.120 --> 1:37:30.400 Tracy Morrow. It says Ice Tea. That's a thing for 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:33.320 hip hop. When you see that screen, say ll COOLJ. 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:36.920 Or when you look and you on ESPN, it says 1:37:37.040 --> 1:37:41.840 ice cubes like that is what they're doing for hip hop. 1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:45.519 Curtis fifty cent Jackson, he still holds it in there 1:37:45.560 --> 1:37:47.439 between the Curtis and Jackson. 1:37:48.880 --> 1:37:51.800 He trying, but it's you get what I'm saying, Like, 1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:56.920 that's the shit. That's what this shit is about, showing 1:37:56.960 --> 1:38:00.640 people that come from these ghettos. Could he evolved to 1:38:00.680 --> 1:38:05.120 be regular, you know, incredible people in society. If the 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:09.840 opportunity is presented and you watching him do that, you 1:38:10.000 --> 1:38:13.760 watching Ice Tea be a part of television history. 1:38:13.960 --> 1:38:15.240 You're watching him do it. 1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:20.559 I'm telling you, I was at that shit in Vegas. 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:23.960 If it's like a libertarian thing with a bunch of 1:38:24.000 --> 1:38:25.479 business people to go up in song. 1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:26.840 So you're gonna get whatever you're gonna get. 1:38:27.240 --> 1:38:29.920 But it's like it's just called Freedom Fest in Las 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:33.679 Vegas and Ice Teas up there working the crowd doing 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:34.400 this interview. 1:38:34.680 --> 1:38:37.559 I was thirty years younger than the next youngest guy. 1:38:38.840 --> 1:38:39.519 It was just like. 1:38:41.280 --> 1:38:44.519 Twelve hundred, like sixty five year old white people who 1:38:44.520 --> 1:38:49.439 are like between libertarian and Republican, just clapping and laughing 1:38:49.479 --> 1:38:52.320 their asses off at every fucking hanging on every syllable 1:38:52.320 --> 1:38:54.240 this guy says for like thirty minutes in a row. 1:38:54.320 --> 1:38:57.360 Was unbelievable and he and he was real as fuck. 1:38:57.479 --> 1:38:59.479 He didn't tailor anything to that audience, not. 1:38:59.479 --> 1:39:00.080 A fucking. 1:39:01.680 --> 1:39:02.639 Not a fucking word. 1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:07.120 Well again, this is No Selings Live to lunch hour 1:39:07.840 --> 1:39:13.160 every Monday, Wednesday and Friday noon Pacific Standard time. 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I'm gonna text Katot 1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:55.200 and see if I can get him to come on here. 1:39:55.240 --> 1:39:56.960 He may come, he may not. You just never know 1:39:57.000 --> 1:40:00.200 what the hommy. But we can really talk about out 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:03.320 this and get into it. It's a really great conversation. 1:40:03.720 --> 1:40:05.960 So Friday will be here at noon. I'll let y'all know. 1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:08.800 Also what I think I Snoop album. I'm for to 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:10.280 go listen to that, so I'll let y'all know what 1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:15.479 I think of Missionary. We come back on Friday. So 1:40:15.560 --> 1:40:21.880 much love to everybody. Good looking out For tuning in 1:40:21.920 --> 1:40:25.160 to the Note Sellers podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, 1:40:25.240 --> 1:40:28.479 rate commentist share. 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