Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Saler's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses, Malone?
Speaker 2: Was that four minutes later today?
Speaker 3: Three minutes late you start that countdown? I would have
Speaker 3: been three or two if you didn't do that countdown.
Speaker 2: You gotta do the countdown even when you late.
Speaker 3: Why do you have to do the countdown? People are
Speaker 3: people are tuning into the countdown.
Speaker 1: It's so professional. You don't fuck with the professionalism of
Speaker 1: the countdown. Well, I turn on a television. They don't
Speaker 1: do a countdown. They just they just do the show.
Speaker 2: Nah, just they show the intro.
Speaker 1: Even if the show been on for twenty years as vu,
Speaker 1: you still get the intro right now to this day,
Speaker 1: twenty seven years later, they.
Speaker 3: Have production credits. Boy, this is this is like breaking
Speaker 3: news and version see stuff. They don't do an intro.
Speaker 3: When you know they dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan,
Speaker 3: they said this just then.
Speaker 2: You want to go more news, not so programming.
Speaker 4: I don't know. We could do a little, but I
Speaker 4: think if we if we if we lead it right.
Speaker 2: I think we need to make an intro.
Speaker 1: I think next time you come to LA we need
Speaker 1: to make an SVU intro that's for the lunch hour,
Speaker 1: and then it starts like the intro we had a.
Speaker 2: Don't boom bom bom bom boom boom boom boom boom
Speaker 2: boom boom bom.
Speaker 1: And like we just investigating all kind of like crazy
Speaker 1: shit in the world.
Speaker 3: I want to do three different intro concepts, one for
Speaker 3: each day of the week, and they could be thematic.
Speaker 3: One's like SVU. The other one's kind of like family matters,
Speaker 3: where we turn and wave and then it shows our name.
Speaker 2: Like we're doing a thing, yo.
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Speaker 3: We could do something like a role reversal of the
Speaker 3: Fresh Prince intro or I get out of a cab
Speaker 3: on one hundred and seventeenth Street in Wilmington and then
Speaker 3: I walk up and then next thing you know, I'm
Speaker 3: getting thrown out of the house.
Speaker 4: At the end of the intro.
Speaker 1: I like that too, oh man. So shout out to
Speaker 1: the homie. I think his name is either pronounced real
Speaker 1: Studis or Sutis. I'm not sure how to pronounce it.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the homie from Twitter, but I thought
Speaker 1: it was interesting and he gave me the idea that
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about glasses. Did I go through
Speaker 1: a character change? Noah, No, no, no no, I just
Speaker 1: not even like that, not.
Speaker 2: Even like that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Laura nick Land Me Fat Hassan JD
Speaker 1: my favorite Squishy. I just put together your package, Squishy
Speaker 1: and selled it up and I got you for your today.
Speaker 1: Fats Tommie Fast, what's up, Fast, Bela, What's up?
Speaker 2: Queen?
Speaker 1: JD Thug was heading Nick everybody in here showing love
Speaker 1: You feel Me? West Side was heading so the Homiel like,
Speaker 1: so today I'm looking and I realized, like, it's a
Speaker 1: great time to be on the West coast. Ice Cube
Speaker 1: is dropping Friday. He's dropping a new album this Friday.
Speaker 1: I don't know why the name is slipping. You feel Me?
Speaker 1: Snoop is dropping in December. As soon as I leave here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the compound with him and dre
Speaker 1: Aight invited me over there to check out the record.
Speaker 1: They want to play the record for me. So I
Speaker 1: get to be critical over some people I grew up
Speaker 1: listening to. Exhibit is dropping in February. I'm dropping in March.
Speaker 1: The one ten album oh Ice Cubes album is called
Speaker 1: Man Down. Snoops album is called uh Missionary. I know
Speaker 1: exhibits album. He send me the cover heems I helped
Speaker 1: choose to cover. And then we dropping Glass and Long
Speaker 1: Presents one ten with me Joey Induced, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: somebody got to drop in January, like you know, maybe game.
Speaker 2: I know Gang was preparing documentary three, So.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be dope to, you know, if
Speaker 1: he dropped in January and we just getting back to
Speaker 1: business and a homie hopped on my Twitter. He tweeted
Speaker 1: me and he said something specific to he said, he
Speaker 1: responded to the tweet where I named all these albums
Speaker 1: in the month for sure, rest and peace of fear.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Cousin Harold Man I was a
Speaker 1: dope brother. I never got a chance to meet uh
Speaker 1: cousin Sofa. I never got a chance to meet cousin
Speaker 1: Harold Sofia and he was hella dope. But so homie
Speaker 1: responds to me when I'm really showing support for q
Speaker 1: Snoop exhibit, and he said, respectfully, I'm from Compton, Greenleaf
Speaker 1: and Willerbrook. I love all West Coast, but new artists
Speaker 1: have to be featured more or get more exposure like
Speaker 1: these established artists have within LA culture. And I responded
Speaker 1: to him and I let him know like.
Speaker 2: Like I'm from around the corner from where you're from.
Speaker 1: And I don't think, really that wasn't the appropriate time
Speaker 1: to really say that, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: if you showing love to a particular group of people
Speaker 1: and that's to me where social media can be a
Speaker 1: bit like, you know what I mean, kind of like counterproductive,
Speaker 1: where it's like you showing love, like you showing love
Speaker 1: to catch up, and niggas start talking about mustard, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, what about mustard? It's like,
Speaker 1: that's not what this is about. But it sent me
Speaker 1: into a spiral thought and it took me back to
Speaker 1: when I first started. We created a movement when I
Speaker 1: first started in two thousand and five six seven called
Speaker 1: West Coast Hip Hop right New West. That was our movement.
Speaker 1: And my attitude when I first got in this gang
Speaker 1: was always like I felt like I didn't get embraced
Speaker 1: by by the legends, and I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that embrace shit look like. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: be honest, you know what I mean, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even know quite what I expected. But we started a
Speaker 1: movement called New West because we were on our own
Speaker 1: and we had to make it happen, like we none
Speaker 1: of us was getting signed to labels, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And forgive me, uh studies. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that that was your intentions to be that way.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: Social media can create that environment where you could be
Speaker 1: showing love to something specifically, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and other things come into play and it may not
Speaker 1: be the time for that. But anyway, we started this
Speaker 1: New West movement, right and we started this New West
Speaker 1: movement and me Bishop and Mike stro we were like
Speaker 1: at the pinnacle of it.
Speaker 2: And really.
Speaker 1: It wasn't negative. It was just like, okay, we on
Speaker 1: our own, so we're gonna make our own movement. See
Speaker 1: back then, even sub like like like unconsciously knew you
Speaker 1: needed a movement to market when it comes to hip hop.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Pete? Sure? Sure, Okay.
Speaker 1: So as we the movement start picking up steam, different
Speaker 1: new artists who were in the game or just getting
Speaker 1: in the game, or been struggling in the game felt like, damn,
Speaker 1: it's some dudes that we can be down with. They
Speaker 1: with us, and we with them. So they became a
Speaker 1: part of the movement. And within that conversation, now you
Speaker 1: have people with real gripes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It was with real gripes.
Speaker 1: It like people who had felt like they've been messed
Speaker 1: over by certain legendary artists. You know what, I mean,
Speaker 1: they had gripes. So what started coming from the movement
Speaker 1: was like, you know, f them old dudes, or I
Speaker 1: got a problem with this person. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It just start being crazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It just it started being a different thing, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the legends started responding.
Speaker 2: To the energy.
Speaker 1: And because everybody kept saying New West, right, and they
Speaker 1: knew the center of New West was Glasses Low on
Speaker 1: Seventh Street was Glasses alone, So immediately people start talking
Speaker 1: shit about me. So I'm like, what the fuck, like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't like this
Speaker 1: is the New West. I get it, like this is
Speaker 1: PEPSI and were talking about coke.
Speaker 2: But I never said nothing about coke.
Speaker 1: But now as they start to respond to me or
Speaker 1: start saying shit to me, fore me, Now I gotta
Speaker 1: say something back. I'm compelled, right, I'm still Hella Street,
Speaker 1: I'm still Hella a crip like, so I'm I'm giving
Speaker 1: them the energy they asking back. So now I'm talking
Speaker 1: shit too, now not specifically about nobody.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Pete, No.
Speaker 3: I just didn't know because you're meeting with Dre later
Speaker 3: and there's kind of this old Old West Coast theme
Speaker 3: going on? Is this a bad time to pitch Dre
Speaker 3: the idea for the new album the Chronic lower Back
Speaker 3: Pain for the sixty and upcrowd.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is definitely a problem.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll hold on to that for later then,
Speaker 3: But on the theme as it exists now, it is interesting,
Speaker 3: like this is so parallel in human behavior to so
Speaker 3: many other.
Speaker 4: Topics we've discussed.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
Speaker 4: It's the same.
Speaker 3: It's the same conversation as what is the kind of
Speaker 3: collectivist responsibility of wealthy black people to look out for
Speaker 3: up and coming black aspiring wealth. It's the same conversation
Speaker 3: also as pro black doesn't mean anti white, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's just a recurrence in the same human behavioral pattern
Speaker 3: that exists throughout the canvas, exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's why, And that was my point set. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't disagree with you, because I think
Speaker 1: when you say one thing, you're saying three things. Still,
Speaker 1: even if you're not saying three things, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: That, I get it.
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just taking you back to somebody
Speaker 1: who had that mind state that he's talking about you
Speaker 1: feel me Like I had that mind state where I
Speaker 1: really didn't have no I mean I grew up listening
Speaker 1: to Snoop and Cue like it was to a point
Speaker 1: that people thought me and Cube really had an issue
Speaker 1: with each other. And I'm like, dog, I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem with Q. I'm telling you my journey in
Speaker 1: the business. You feel me, I don't. It's fucking Ice
Speaker 1: cubing bonds, fucking alb since I was like eight, like
Speaker 1: how the fucking min have a beef with Ice Cue?
Speaker 2: So go ahead, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Snoop, And this is serious because the beauty of
Speaker 3: doggy style was that it was doggy. It was double
Speaker 3: entrantra between dogs and sex. Right now, Snoop's a little older,
Speaker 3: there's no such thing as a missionary dog. Why the
Speaker 3: album needs to be called put Them to Sleep?
Speaker 1: Well, that's only if it's If it's it's it's like
Speaker 1: you're still evolving pass from doggy Style. But again, because
Speaker 1: missionary is a play off doggy style.
Speaker 3: But put them to Sleep it's also a playoff doggy
Speaker 3: style because you give it to them doggy style, you're
Speaker 3: gonna put them to sleep.
Speaker 4: But when dogs get old, you put them to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but chill because I alady hear this
Speaker 1: shit later and the nigga will be telling me later
Speaker 1: like we sup with your hommy, don't do that. So look,
Speaker 1: we got this New West movement popping right, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So like it's blowing up. Bishop get
Speaker 1: a deal, I get a deal, Mikey is heating up.
Speaker 1: And now it's like a lot of us, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, everybody is on Jay Rock, like all
Speaker 1: the hommies. We we blowing up, but our attitudes was
Speaker 1: what they.
Speaker 2: Were because it it went from a bunch of people
Speaker 2: talking shit.
Speaker 1: Like again, certain people like Topic really had a bad
Speaker 1: experience with dove C, the hommy. Topic he's a rapper
Speaker 1: from West Covina, real dope brother and he was signed
Speaker 1: to dove C and him and DUBC had an issue
Speaker 1: in a falling out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So so uh.
Speaker 1: When Topics start pushing New West, he started addressing his
Speaker 1: issues with Douve and then like it'd be different things.
Speaker 1: So I guess legends kind of felt that heat coming.
Speaker 1: So then they start talking shit about me, like maybe Bishop,
Speaker 1: but they just start talking shit about me, and then
Speaker 1: so niggas hearing him talk shit about me, So then
Speaker 1: we start responding and.
Speaker 2: Then it's a bunch of other little.
Speaker 1: Goofy shit like right, that really created a weird riff
Speaker 1: that I really didn't understand. I'm like, brother, like, how
Speaker 1: do like, how does this work?
Speaker 2: So it got to.
Speaker 1: The point to where, like cube, I remember being with
Speaker 1: Joe Buddens and this is when Joe Buddens this two
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven. So Joe Budden is doing a podcast when
Speaker 1: podcasts don't even exist.
Speaker 2: That's one thing I can give.
Speaker 1: Him credit that Nigga has in podcasting before podcasting was
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 2: But he had his laptop halfway.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was recording on his laptop, like
Speaker 1: he was talking to his audience, like he was just
Speaker 1: broadcasting live. And he had his we on the tour
Speaker 1: bus and his laptop is halfway you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not wide open, so I don't know he's talking
Speaker 1: on it. Not to mention, who the fuck was thinking
Speaker 1: you was talking to the computer in twenty eleven, I
Speaker 1: never did no shit like that, So I didn't even.
Speaker 2: Know what's streaming or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I still wouldn't have knew because I didn't
Speaker 1: fucking know what the fuck could you be doing on
Speaker 1: the laptop.
Speaker 4: And two, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's like you might want to mention that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like I'm giving clarity.
Speaker 1: So with people here, it is like they don't think
Speaker 1: Joe is just like something scammy dude, Like yeah, he
Speaker 1: could be vloggy and I didn't know, but no, he
Speaker 1: was live streaming back then. He was way up name
Speaker 1: brand on live streaming. Like I didn't know what that was, bro.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling him a story. He's telling me a
Speaker 1: story about when he met Wu Tang. This is before
Speaker 1: obviously you know him and Wu Tang get into it
Speaker 1: and they kind of punch on him. So I'm telling he,
Speaker 1: like you don't know what it feels like glasses. He
Speaker 1: telling me what it was like where he felt he
Speaker 1: was disappointed meeting some member of Wu Tang. I forgot
Speaker 1: exactly the person. I'm sure it's out there, you can
Speaker 1: find it. And I'm telling him, I'm like, Joe, that's normal.
Speaker 1: Like I remember I met ice Cube at a at
Speaker 1: a record store signing and watch and I explained to
Speaker 1: him the story where Cube was doing his signing and
Speaker 1: he didn't feel as comfortable. Now, I don't know why
Speaker 1: that don't he could been sick. I don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: and I'm still telling you my perspective, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I said, like, this is the person who I
Speaker 1: grew up kind of looking up to as the ultimate
Speaker 1: kind of man.
Speaker 2: And it just felt like.
Speaker 1: Because he didn't react the way I wanted to, and
Speaker 1: him come meet all these ogs who really was his
Speaker 1: fans like I came to. I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: think I saw Q scared like I said it. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he just kind of seemed scared.
Speaker 2: Anyway, they take.
Speaker 1: That clip and they chop it up and all of
Speaker 1: the blogs go crazy with it. Again, it's twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: so shit is hitting. So Q comes out and he's like, nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of no glasses malone and fuck that
Speaker 1: nigga and down I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: So again, this is all on top of.
Speaker 1: This whole New West thing where they all killed and
Speaker 1: already is looking crazy. You know what I mean, It's
Speaker 1: just been crazy. There's Cube got songs this in the
Speaker 1: New West, like it's crazy. So but in my mind,
Speaker 1: I never in my life felt like I was beefing
Speaker 1: with Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube or Doctor I know Doctor Dre.
Speaker 1: I knew Doctor Dre before I even got serious about
Speaker 1: rap like I don't, or MC eight like I knew
Speaker 1: because he messed with the Homie Boom. I knew Chill
Speaker 1: because chilling them gave me my first singles two hundred
Speaker 1: that blew up.
Speaker 2: So I never had a problem.
Speaker 1: I've been buying these dudes records and listening to that
Speaker 1: music my whole life.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So how are you and cute? Like you guys cool?
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, Yeah, we cool now you know
Speaker 4: each other?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know how it got so crazy, bro,
Speaker 1: it got so crazy because this is the real story,
Speaker 1: how we kind of got to a place where we
Speaker 1: settled it and rest in peace to crazy tunes.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever told this story publicly, but
Speaker 1: this is the story. So all this talking, so they
Speaker 1: would ask me cu Din already put out these dish
Speaker 1: records if you never heard them, drink.
Speaker 2: The kool aid?
Speaker 1: Uh, No country for young men. It's some songs, and
Speaker 1: he says some shit. Like even when he disses me
Speaker 1: on the song, he like you Bobby Bouchet something, And
Speaker 1: it's like Qute knows my alter ego to water Boy,
Speaker 1: Like that was everything to me, Like how could I
Speaker 1: even manifest a this.
Speaker 2: I'm more impressed that Cube knows who I am.
Speaker 1: Mind you, I'm a full seventh Street watch crit Nigga like,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, this is ice Cue cause like I'm
Speaker 1: in bond this movies cuz watching like Nigga, what like
Speaker 1: this cue, Like Nigga formed my style after your style.
Speaker 2: But again, and if.
Speaker 1: He years this, he can go look through the interviews
Speaker 1: because if I've never in my life said fuck ice
Speaker 1: Cube or this ice Cube, it.
Speaker 2: Just sound weird. Yeah, and even though it don't.
Speaker 1: Even matter that I'm with mac Tin at the time,
Speaker 1: and you know, they got the issue where they not talking.
Speaker 1: I don't have a song saying fuck ice Cue or
Speaker 1: ever saying that. But again it's this energy like that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I'm like, yeah, bro, my homies
Speaker 1: even said that, like, man, glad you you had a problem.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I didn't, Like, I don't have no
Speaker 1: song said fuck Snoop Dogg like that shit sounds stupid.
Speaker 2: I don't know them.
Speaker 1: All I know is I'm a fan of their music
Speaker 1: cuz you feel me so and I got you said this,
Speaker 1: give me a second. Let me just worry through all
Speaker 1: this shit. So this is how me and the Q shit,
Speaker 1: this Q shit come to the head. So I have
Speaker 1: a show because I have the number one record in
Speaker 1: this town. It's in Indiana. I got the number one
Speaker 1: song and that Haters is the number one song. Or
Speaker 1: son come up, I get that one of them song
Speaker 1: is the number one song at the time in Indiana.
Speaker 1: It's it's a town in Indiana. So the radio station
Speaker 1: booked me for a car show. So I go to
Speaker 1: to do a car show. Now, outside the car show
Speaker 1: is where it's at. But inside this in front of
Speaker 1: a club almost looked like a like a born style
Speaker 1: of club in Indiana. Fort Wayne. Fort Wayne, Indiana. That's
Speaker 1: the name of the town. Matter of fact, I actually
Speaker 1: I used to know who that. I knew who the
Speaker 1: dead I knew who the dude name was.
Speaker 3: That was actually the PD Yeah, I think that's my
Speaker 3: old roommate in college. Was this girl on the track team.
Speaker 3: She stayed with me for like half a year. She
Speaker 3: was from four Way, Indiana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Fort Wayne is one of those kind of
Speaker 1: small big towns.
Speaker 2: It's like a town that means something two six.
Speaker 4: Oh right, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. D Johnsy said, So at the ten years,
Speaker 1: they don't forget they forgot. No, that's the point. They
Speaker 1: ain't forgott about me. Right, So fast forward?
Speaker 4: Right, So is that Dennis Johnson from the Celtics. Was
Speaker 4: he number three?
Speaker 2: No? No, that's not Denis Johnson died rest of Soul.
Speaker 1: Oh you're right, DJ from counter Too out of the
Speaker 1: DJ top ten point guard all time. I don't care
Speaker 1: when nobody say, we'll talk about that another time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fast forward, So win four Way, Indiana. They booked me
Speaker 1: for the car show outside. The outside car show is
Speaker 1: the parking lot of a club. That night they have
Speaker 1: a club going and they have ice Cube performance. I
Speaker 1: didn't know. So we fly into town, right, I go
Speaker 1: do my sound check. Me it's me and DJ Head
Speaker 1: and the Homie Quiz shout out their head because Head
Speaker 1: was there and we was with a record ind from
Speaker 1: from Universal a Girl. So I'm doing my soundcheck and
Speaker 1: we're finna go back to the hotel to chill out
Speaker 1: and get you know, till listen to do the card show.
Speaker 2: Fast forward.
Speaker 1: I'm walking back to the van and I hear like
Speaker 1: faintly skip skip yy yay, like like music, and I
Speaker 1: hear somebody checking the mic. This is me outside hearing
Speaker 1: a sound check inside the club. Hey, my name glasses
Speaker 1: because I can't see cuz, but my fucking ears it's
Speaker 1: top tier at this point in my life.
Speaker 2: You understanding, my ears is crazy. So I hear it,
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that these niggas sound checking in the air?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn. So I'm like, I tell the promoter.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, what's going on. Later he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we got a concert. I'm like, oh yeah, they say,
Speaker 1: acting their sound checking. It's a white man. So he
Speaker 1: don't quite tell me who it is, but I know
Speaker 1: who it is. So I'm like, could y'all give us
Speaker 1: a tour of the club. They said, okay, Now this
Speaker 1: is raggedy because I did do that.
Speaker 2: It was raggedy. I did do that.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell nobody what I thought or what I felt.
Speaker 1: I just knew I needed to get in there because
Speaker 1: I always said, like, look, man, I'm not gonna argue.
Speaker 1: I love DUBC The shadey is one is my favorite
Speaker 1: album all time. Like, I'm not gonna argue with y'all
Speaker 1: over records. I'm not Fena dish y'all the interviews, cause
Speaker 1: when I see y'all, we get addressing and get to
Speaker 1: whatever it gotta be. That's just the nigga I was.
Speaker 1: That's how I am to this day. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do too much of that with you. If I
Speaker 1: could see you, if I could see you, nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see you. So the man walk us in, head
Speaker 1: like okay, so we all walking in. I'm getting closer
Speaker 1: and closer. Nigga is duve see sound checking. Oh I'm now,
Speaker 1: So head figures out what I know? He like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: like he like he know and he see me going.
Speaker 2: So I walk. I walk right past Q. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: what up, cuz I and I know you son see
Speaker 2: me like this. Nigga is right here.
Speaker 1: So I stood in front of the stage cuse probably
Speaker 1: about a good twenty feet back. Why cuz and tunes
Speaker 1: and sound checking rest in peace to twos and they
Speaker 1: checking and them niggas looking, and I'm standing in front
Speaker 1: of the stations like watch up, Cuz niggas look at
Speaker 1: they like glasses tones comet behind the DJ booth, Hop down,
Speaker 1: Dub hot down. Now I'm looking for the Q. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's up man? You niggas been talking about me? You
Speaker 1: feel me? Fuck that? What's happening? Cuz, like, let's get
Speaker 1: these shits right now. That's where my mind was at.
Speaker 1: So Nigga Toon was saying something. I'm like, what's handing case?
Speaker 1: Y'all niggas been talking about me and all that. You
Speaker 1: like nigga, nigg nobody worried about you. Nigga, it's whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, whatever, Cud, we can get out right now.
Speaker 1: So Cuds is coming there, He coming around Dub to
Speaker 1: get at me. So I feelsh squabble crazy tunes. This
Speaker 1: is crazy tunes, Cuz, like what the fuck? Why am
Speaker 1: I about the squabble? Like one of the my favorite niggas.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's wrong cuz, but at this
Speaker 1: point the cripp is just coming out like I'm like, cuz, whatever, cuse, like,
Speaker 1: let's get it that nigga. Dub pushed me. He pushed
Speaker 1: to This is how strong Cuz is. He pushed tunes
Speaker 1: back Tunes fly back. He pushed me into the kitchen, which.
Speaker 2: Is behind me the fuck. So Doug like, glassing, man,
Speaker 2: what your motherfucking problem.
Speaker 1: He ain't got no problem cause y'all niggas getting at me,
Speaker 1: fileing shit. He like, Nigga, you lean the movement, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you told this story. You thene called this. Nigga, you
Speaker 1: just set this Nigga scared and died out out out
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Cuz, I'm just telling the story. You're like, glasses,
Speaker 1: this niggas lies and you just saying shit and you
Speaker 1: not thinking about it.
Speaker 2: So he started just talking to me, cuz.
Speaker 1: And and Tunes like, yeah, nigga, you keep trying to
Speaker 1: bring the streets to this shit. I'm like, nigga, I
Speaker 1: thought this was the streets. And they like, Nigga, this
Speaker 1: is a business, nigga.
Speaker 2: You get paid. You gotta check.
Speaker 1: Nigga, they almost got you a million dollars and cuse,
Speaker 1: they just kept talking to me, cuz, and I just
Speaker 1: got I went from six to three itchy foot to five,
Speaker 1: seven to five, four to four, nine to three six
Speaker 1: by the time that conversation was over. Because Douve made
Speaker 1: me feel like a Toddler. And I mean, he wasn't
Speaker 1: like assaulting me, he wasn't calling me out my name,
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing none of that cuz he was just
Speaker 1: telling me how the business goes. And it made me
Speaker 1: feel like fuck, man, Like how did I know that
Speaker 1: this business was a business? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: how didn't I know? Like I didn't know? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking these niggas, it's really like, you know, like
Speaker 1: I believe the raps. I'm not thinking that they're telling
Speaker 1: us stories. That's not to say whether it's real or not,
Speaker 1: but they are professionals in double like you got to
Speaker 1: be a professional.
Speaker 2: Cousin.
Speaker 1: I was like fuck, And he was like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I'm finished selling shit with Cube that nigga call QB.
Speaker 1: He's like, Cube, I got this nigga glass right now.
Speaker 1: He's like, what, like, yeah, mana to check this nigga.
Speaker 1: Man out to get at this young nigga man and
Speaker 1: tell me, man, y'all niggas need to go ahead get.
Speaker 2: This shit worked out.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, dude, just whatever you say, dog,
Speaker 1: you know it's cool, you know, shut it up, and
Speaker 1: da da dah. And they was like all right, glasses.
Speaker 1: So they talked and he and he's like, look, nigga,
Speaker 1: after y'all show, after our show, after your show, nigga.
Speaker 2: Come meet up tonight.
Speaker 1: Nigga, were gonna talk and get this ship worked out.
Speaker 1: I felt so little, I didn't even go back to
Speaker 1: the meeting.
Speaker 2: Oh I did my show. I did my show.
Speaker 3: So you got these two poor guys sitting in some
Speaker 3: diner in Indiana waiting around and waiting around, and you
Speaker 3: ghost of them out after all that.
Speaker 2: Ship first.
Speaker 1: Man, it was had cause I felt so stupid and
Speaker 1: little and and ignorant, like I didn't know, and uh
Speaker 1: so I took it dub Man.
Speaker 3: Dub as you know, like my two most underrated favorites,
Speaker 3: like of all time of in l A ever is
Speaker 3: Tashing Dub like as far as.
Speaker 2: Like the guys who and I got tashed on the
Speaker 2: song too. So you're gonna love. I'm gonna sit it
Speaker 2: to you. This is RIF.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but we definitely got to get double on
Speaker 1: this platform because he could tell you the conversation right
Speaker 1: so fast forward right something like damn Cuz He's like,
Speaker 1: uh so we talked later and I didn't go because
Speaker 1: I just felt so stupid, so I know it's over.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, man, we talk. He's like, man, cub
Speaker 1: ain't tripping. He said, you know, loans, it ain't no
Speaker 1: you know, it ain't no problem.
Speaker 2: So fast forward. This is about ten months later.
Speaker 1: Now I really ain't said nothing else about it because
Speaker 1: I'm over it, Like my whole mind is fucked up.
Speaker 2: Whatever. I go to a radio room for the Grammys, right,
Speaker 2: the Grammy.
Speaker 1: So a radio room is when all the different people
Speaker 1: from all the different radio stations in media come to
Speaker 1: LA because they doing the Grammys, and they set up
Speaker 1: a room for all of the stars to walk through
Speaker 1: and do press. It's just a room full of different
Speaker 1: media outlets, radio station, television stations, magazines, and you sit
Speaker 1: down with each of them and you get pressed all
Speaker 1: over for all over.
Speaker 2: The country, all over the world. It's kind of dope.
Speaker 2: I mean. So I go there.
Speaker 1: I take Pun. This is punk Pun fresh in the business,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like he like I knew
Speaker 1: we had all the talent in the world, but he's
Speaker 1: fresh in the business.
Speaker 2: He's here a crib like me.
Speaker 1: So like, you know, we we on time, but were
Speaker 1: not chipping like I've been in the business now four years,
Speaker 1: five years, so I feel like I kind of know
Speaker 1: what's going on. I mean, so we walking in, everybody
Speaker 1: talking to us, and then like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everything just get quiet, like it got kind.
Speaker 2: Of weirdly quiet. I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: Like why everybody just it just got quiet, like.
Speaker 1: A whole loom came over the room. Cube and then
Speaker 1: walk in. So people know that I'm here and they
Speaker 1: see Cube walking in. Sell mind you, they don't know
Speaker 1: what happened in Indiana because I'm not that kind of nigga,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not no matter who I had a problem with,
Speaker 1: I don't really get on the internet and talk about
Speaker 1: it like I just because I'm gonna see you and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the problem, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to fight anyway. I'm trying to do it anyway.
Speaker 1: So they don't know that we solve the problem already,
Speaker 1: Like whatever the problem could have been, it was already
Speaker 1: solved because I didn't go do interviews like yeah, everything
Speaker 1: is cool with me, and.
Speaker 2: Q Q followed me. Kill would be watching this. He's
Speaker 2: on Twitter.
Speaker 1: He follows me on Twitter. We like we talk, so
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like nobody knows. We already
Speaker 1: had settled whatever differences that people thought it could have been.
Speaker 1: But because I didn't go say nothing, he didn't say nothing.
Speaker 1: So he comes in. But everybody know that there was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a problem, right, So I'm like, why
Speaker 1: is it? And then it hit me like, oh, they
Speaker 1: think is a problem with me and Cuz and we
Speaker 1: in LA. So I'm like, man, I'm not even getting
Speaker 1: into it. I'm just doing my radio run. So it
Speaker 1: is you could tell like it's to people, it's attention.
Speaker 1: They're acting like there's a tension in the room. In
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm just trying to get this shit done
Speaker 1: to leave. I'm really embarrassed. I don't even want to
Speaker 1: face these niggas because I really feel cause it's like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I really never dish you. I don't have no songs
Speaker 1: dishing you. I'm really a fan.
Speaker 2: This is stupid.
Speaker 1: This ain't gonna work out, Like, how do I even
Speaker 1: write a disrecord against you? I don't even know you, nigga,
Speaker 1: nor do I have a problem with you. Nor if
Speaker 1: I write a disc record, it's gonna sound like you
Speaker 1: rapping Cuz. Like the fuck this stupid. It's like a
Speaker 1: son fighting his father. It's just dumb at a certain place,
Speaker 1: like you taught me all the moves. I'm gonna hit
Speaker 1: you back with your moves.
Speaker 2: It's stupid.
Speaker 1: So nigga, we get to that point, right all right, Keyboy,
Speaker 1: come up now, mind you it was some shit at
Speaker 1: a time, because key I remember keybo talked to one
Speaker 1: of my older homies, my older Army Boo, and it
Speaker 1: was finna be some shit then. But again it was
Speaker 1: never could really be no shit because it wasn't no shit.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not finna entertain dissing cbe ice Cube in
Speaker 1: the back battle, like this is fucking ice Cube.
Speaker 2: It's just stupid. So Keyboard walk up. He's like, glass, man,
Speaker 2: I gotta get you a cube.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Q's in.
Speaker 1: I gotta got your niggas need to talk yo. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Man, let's do another time, Like now,
Speaker 1: let's do it here we together right now. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it in front of
Speaker 1: all these people because I really don't have nothing to say.
Speaker 1: He like, man, come on, bada, so he walk off.
Speaker 1: I tell a point. I say, man, we're gonna sneak
Speaker 1: out on them niggas. Man, I'm not finna do this because.
Speaker 4: Twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to go seem again cause it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: because now it's dumb. You know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 1: it's stupid. It's like, bro, like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like what the fuck? Uh?
Speaker 1: Keybo, come back, give us some T shirts? And everybody's watching,
Speaker 1: crip yang everybody watching. So I'm like, man, I'm not
Speaker 1: finna do this. Paul, like, man, why don't you talk
Speaker 1: to me? I said, Man, I talk to that nigga
Speaker 1: another time when it ain't a bunch of people around,
Speaker 1: because it's really stupid.
Speaker 2: Keybo, come back, give us some shirts. Keep it.
Speaker 4: He gave you ice cube shirts.
Speaker 1: So Keybo is a g is a triple og for
Speaker 1: one eleven. Keybo is Pinky's drivering Friday. Okay, like but
Speaker 1: he like a triple og nigga for one eleven.
Speaker 3: He like a real respect, like one of the guys
Speaker 3: in the van on Friday and and and the alley
Speaker 3: because it was dob see you jumped out and spray.
Speaker 2: To get not the first Friday he's in there.
Speaker 4: I know what you mean, but I was like, oh no, no,
Speaker 4: I wasn't jumped out of the van.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was dub and original Friday.
Speaker 4: Okay, so he's be one of the people in the
Speaker 4: van too.
Speaker 1: No, so Keyboards Pinky's driver, when Pinky be like, you
Speaker 1: made me spill yat on his suit. So but Keyboards
Speaker 1: like this super fly ass nigga build dope cars. Cuz
Speaker 1: just like this super triple o G nigga for one
Speaker 1: left like I have respect for Cuffore.
Speaker 2: I even met him.
Speaker 1: His name always missed some solid nigga. So he's trying
Speaker 1: to give me to talk to this nigga, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk more because I'm embarrassed, like
Speaker 1: I don't like, I really feel stupid, and I'm really
Speaker 1: mad because I felt like niggas didn't educate me on
Speaker 1: what's happening. So fast forward, I'm trying to get out
Speaker 1: the door. I didn't did all my radio shit. I
Speaker 1: just stopped at all these booth It's time for me
Speaker 1: to get up out of here, so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: slide out. I see keybo working Q through the roles
Speaker 1: to catch me at the door. So I'm trying to
Speaker 1: wait till he ain't looking. Cuz, look away, cousin, I
Speaker 1: start making my way to the door me and pun.
Speaker 2: Them niggas.
Speaker 4: Catch us at the.
Speaker 1: Door, he said, y'all to get y'all together the whole
Speaker 1: radio room. Cuz is looking at us, the whole radio
Speaker 1: cause it's two hundred people. Cuz looking at us. It's
Speaker 1: two hundred people. Couse just staring at us. And I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: big dog, I don't really know. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, maybe Mac told you.
Speaker 1: I said, look, I don't god know songs this in you,
Speaker 1: big dog, like this stupid, Like I grew up listening
Speaker 1: to your music. You influenced my style. Like I don't
Speaker 1: even know you. How could I make a record thisition you?
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 2: Our movement was because we felt like we was by ourselves.
Speaker 2: That's it. We made our movement.
Speaker 1: I said, y'all get it with some people that was
Speaker 1: anti y'all that came about, I said, But that wasn't
Speaker 1: the foundation of the movement.
Speaker 2: The movement was just us embracing.
Speaker 1: Each other like yeah, gee, like you know, it don't
Speaker 1: got to be I'm like, it ain't like that, Like
Speaker 1: I can't or like I could never be with you, bro,
Speaker 1: like you created my style. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: This is stupid, and and you know we shook hands
Speaker 1: whatever adapter was like all right, we'll get up for sure,
Speaker 1: and then I got on right, But like I didn't
Speaker 1: like all that stupid ass attention because I really didn't
Speaker 1: have no problem with cuz right. So I say all
Speaker 1: that to say such, it's like there's an arrogance when
Speaker 1: you young and you come in this business. You come
Speaker 1: in this business thinking you know what to do. You
Speaker 1: come in this business thinking you have everything it takes
Speaker 1: to make it happen.
Speaker 2: Lord knows, you get a record deal that's worth millions
Speaker 2: of dollars.
Speaker 3: Is there another component of that where and you kind
Speaker 3: of see it some of us to do with age.
Speaker 3: Something has to do with a lot of various stuff
Speaker 3: as well. But you see, like young dudes and like
Speaker 3: really street guys that are rappers, they might come in
Speaker 3: and be like they still got fixed street residue on them.
Speaker 4: And some of these older people been.
Speaker 3: You know, wealthy and successful for too fucking long or whatever.
Speaker 3: So the attitude is a perspective or change. So and
Speaker 3: on top of being young, and exuber and or whatever.
Speaker 3: You also think you hard as fucking in the room.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you personally specifically, but like you know,
Speaker 3: you see young guys who just get on and they
Speaker 3: still doing crazy stuff for whatever the hell.
Speaker 2: They got a lot of bravado, a lot.
Speaker 3: Of attitude and that kind of thing, and it really
Speaker 3: becomes a little blurrier as to you know what exactly
Speaker 3: their agenda is.
Speaker 2: Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I mean again it is the same arrogance where you
Speaker 1: feel like you hellas street. But I can't find I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm doing this because but like defending them,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they quite know that they need
Speaker 1: to teach you something. And I don't think just because
Speaker 1: they successful means that they are naturally teachers.
Speaker 2: True, just because MC eight is hell is successful, it
Speaker 2: doesn't make him a teacher.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, especially in something like this. I mean, like.
Speaker 3: It's the arts, like it's all just to say quad,
Speaker 3: most of it is you either got it or you don't.
Speaker 3: You can't teach it. You got it or you don't.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 3: business to it, but.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, there is a lot to teach
Speaker 1: but you got it like being a teacher, like people
Speaker 1: get taught how to teach. Sure, just because you did something,
Speaker 1: don't mean you could teach people how to do it,
Speaker 1: Like like that's why some of the best professional athletes
Speaker 1: make some of the worst coaches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's kind of where I was going, Like
Speaker 3: do you think that there? And it's again it's it
Speaker 3: can't be either or you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: spectrum to it.
Speaker 4: But in a rap you could be.
Speaker 3: A type of artist and you're an extremely talented artist
Speaker 3: and other people because you're such a like well of
Speaker 3: just money, like you know, like the little fish to
Speaker 3: hang out by the sharks or whatever the hell were
Speaker 3: you just get such an apparatus around you that does
Speaker 3: all the business and all the whatever shit that some
Speaker 3: people just have a pave just just go be RCU
Speaker 3: and make the records and do that.
Speaker 4: Whatever the hell. We're gonna make our fifty million dollars
Speaker 4: off of you.
Speaker 3: We don't care. We'll do everything. And they don't have
Speaker 3: to learn that much. They just have to do their
Speaker 3: thing or is that not quite so much?
Speaker 1: Yes and no, Like all of these things are true,
Speaker 1: but you know what the problem with the New West
Speaker 1: was and even the driving force of the attitude. And
Speaker 1: I could tell you in twenty twenty four as I
Speaker 1: got older, is we didn't know the right questions to ask. Sure,
Speaker 1: like I'm naturally a teacher, like I've been teaching my
Speaker 1: whole life, But that don't mean MC eight just because
Speaker 1: he's successful as a teacher. But there are things to know,
Speaker 1: Like there are things to know, bro, Like, yes, there's
Speaker 1: a natural element to this business. And you know, people
Speaker 1: say a million things. It ain't only one way to
Speaker 1: skin a cat. Yes, there is only one way to
Speaker 1: skin a cat. Got to take a skin on. So
Speaker 1: you might can use different types of nods and shit,
Speaker 1: but there's only one way to skin a cat.
Speaker 2: I mean it really is.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the younger dudes don't want to embrace
Speaker 1: the wisdom from the older generation. No, it's not they
Speaker 1: don't want to They don't know that there's something to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's to me, Like you said, you don't know
Speaker 3: the right questions to ask, Like in football terms, once
Speaker 3: you have the right questions, you're in the red zone.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know.
Speaker 4: The more you know you don't know like that I'm at.
Speaker 1: Now where I'm at now, like the success that I'm
Speaker 1: about to experience next year is because I got the wisdom.
Speaker 1: So now the questions are different because they're I actually
Speaker 1: took time to know something.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: Hip hop has never just been a young man's sport.
Speaker 1: That's just this really weird expression that people have some
Speaker 1: reason carried. The culture of it is driven by youth.
Speaker 1: But then the business of the record business. Sylvia Robinson
Speaker 1: when she was making records for you know, a twenty
Speaker 1: two year old Mellie Mail or twenty one year old
Speaker 1: or twenty two year old or twenty year old or
Speaker 1: nineteen year old.
Speaker 2: Him.
Speaker 1: What's the name of that group the original record, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sugar Hill. They were twenty in nineteen and twenty one,
Speaker 1: but Sylvia Robinson was forty. She produced you know the
Speaker 1: sugar Hill record. She produced the Message. You know, Larry
Speaker 1: Smith is smart and older. Doctor Dre doesn't produce Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg until he's thirty. So it's always been a combination
Speaker 1: of the knowledge of music, rappers, the light you're looking
Speaker 1: our name brand rappers delight right, There's always been a
Speaker 1: combination of you know, experience with youth, the energy of youth, the.
Speaker 3: The the.
Speaker 1: Knowledge and experience of the wise with the cultural you know,
Speaker 1: reverence and and and and and energy of the youth.
Speaker 1: That's always been the success of hip hop as the
Speaker 1: record business. So I don't think it's young people don't
Speaker 1: want to embrace the wisdom of the older generation.
Speaker 2: I don't think they know they need it. You don't
Speaker 2: know you need it.
Speaker 1: You don't know that hip hop or the record business
Speaker 1: side of hip hop, there's something to know.
Speaker 2: You don't know that. You just feel like I'm dope.
Speaker 1: I got something to say cuz and I'm for real,
Speaker 1: and that's enough. You don't think about that. There is
Speaker 1: a business you know what I mean in Santa Monica
Speaker 1: called Interscope that got six floors of people that make
Speaker 1: the chronic and Doggie style sell the way they sell.
Speaker 2: You don't think of it like that.
Speaker 1: You like, okay, you don't think of records. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you don't know there's something to know. So to his point,
Speaker 1: he was like, well, it's almost like he was saying
Speaker 1: that he felt the older generation needed to embrace the
Speaker 1: youth more. And it's like, no, it's two people that
Speaker 1: got to know that together they can make history. It's
Speaker 1: two people it's an elder and a young person that
Speaker 1: got to know together they can change the course of
Speaker 1: what's happening. That's what it's always been. You don't get
Speaker 1: the greatest hip hop artists of all time, Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1: If Dre is not thirty years old at this point,
Speaker 1: the things he knows about music, the things he knows
Speaker 1: about records, the experience combined with the cultural renaissance and
Speaker 1: the energy of a prime Snoop Dogg, you don't get it.
Speaker 2: It don't work. That's why it works. The way it works,
Speaker 2: that's why it works.
Speaker 1: So it's two people that got to understand that each
Speaker 1: person possesses a value. They gotta know that. So that's
Speaker 1: what I was saying to him. It's like, you both
Speaker 1: have to know that you have a value for each other.
Speaker 1: If when I was young, I would have loved to
Speaker 1: work with I did work with Battlecat.
Speaker 2: It became one of my most important songs. DJ Toomp, who.
Speaker 1: At that time probably was thirty five, thirty six years old,
Speaker 1: maybe even closer to forty.
Speaker 2: DJ Tump gave me my first hit record.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean in two thousand and seven
Speaker 1: and eight, You know what I'm saying like I became
Speaker 1: instrumental in helping my team understand how to make it
Speaker 1: with that good again. It's a combination of knowledge, right,
Speaker 1: you know, history and knowledge and cultural renaissance. It's both,
Speaker 1: like I'm helping Homie White Dog. Like there is an
Speaker 1: arrogance when you young and you feel like you know it,
Speaker 1: then there is also you gotta be smart and realize
Speaker 1: some already.
Speaker 2: Experienced it and it ain't easy. It ain't easy, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You got to you gotta peel.
Speaker 1: I tell another thing I realized too in the streets,
Speaker 1: gang bang and hustling, ego and pride are your most
Speaker 1: prized possessions. Say how you earn they how you avoid problems.
Speaker 1: Everything about what people think about you, the reputation that
Speaker 1: you carry is everything. I could tell you one thing
Speaker 1: if you're a young artist in a business, that is
Speaker 1: the one thing you don't need.
Speaker 4: And I think also, like in the street environment, if you're.
Speaker 3: Getting knowledge from older people with a lot of experience,
Speaker 3: it's probably more pitfall oriented knowledge than rather like a
Speaker 3: lot of guys you could point too easily that did
Speaker 3: it really big at that level, didn't have a problem,
Speaker 3: made it out clean and are like you know, on
Speaker 3: the golf in Palm Spring smoking a cigar, like, let
Speaker 3: me tell you how to do this. It's probably not
Speaker 3: quite so much that as it is like, look, it's
Speaker 3: all good until you make this mistake. Don't make this mistake.
Speaker 3: And at that point, you know, sometimes you look at
Speaker 3: people who failed. There's always that Tennessee. Like you hear
Speaker 3: like with kids at parcies, don't drink and do drugs, Well,
Speaker 3: you're drinking dud drugs when you were in high school.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it was a good idea.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean even in the streets some people like
Speaker 1: Jenius like my big Hommy Pluck Boo man, them niggas
Speaker 1: is jeniuses, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it ain't about losing as much as they've tried
Speaker 2: so many different ways.
Speaker 1: Sure, but again, like I say, the pride and ego
Speaker 1: part of the business. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: you need in the streets, you don't need that in
Speaker 1: hip hop. You gotta lead that there because that's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing such is that The issue is is you
Speaker 1: have to understand that you don't need that in the business.
Speaker 1: You actually really need to get with all of these
Speaker 1: people and learn what they know. I ask to catch
Speaker 1: because they all know some shit. Here's today like even
Speaker 1: Snoop and dradon them now to deal with them, To
Speaker 1: go deal with them now was like the same thing,
Speaker 1: Like I'm always still a student. I'm still gonna be
Speaker 1: able to pass the information to young homies whoever that
Speaker 1: want to rap. You know what I'm saying and all
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Speaker 2: I heart real settings.
Speaker 1: I was speaking more towards the formula needs to change,
Speaker 1: not necessarily the younger generation not listening to the older generation.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the younger generation not listening to
Speaker 1: the older generation. I don't think people realize su there's
Speaker 1: something to know.
Speaker 4: There's not really a dialogue at all.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not something to know. The problem is they
Speaker 1: don't realize it's something to know. Most people come into
Speaker 1: this business thinking it's art, so it's like whatever works.
Speaker 1: They forget that the record business is not a business
Speaker 1: of art. It's a business of records, and records get
Speaker 1: real scientific. So that's the point that's not talked about
Speaker 1: the science of a record. Everybody naturally can paint, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you can improve on being a dope painter, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you can learn some stuff, but art
Speaker 1: is art. But the science of records is where all
Speaker 1: of those guys understand.
Speaker 3: And here's a great example. This is a great carryover
Speaker 3: from what we were talking about two days ago. This
Speaker 3: is the difference between Jake Paul is a boxer and
Speaker 3: every other boxer who's a ten times better boxer. He's
Speaker 3: manipulating the business side of the sport better than all
Speaker 3: the other boxers who are doing better at the boxing
Speaker 3: side of the sport.
Speaker 1: He definitely is another part of the business, and it's
Speaker 1: a business. So the record part of the business.
Speaker 2: Is just.
Speaker 4: This record selling records.
Speaker 2: It's science and records. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 2: science in boxing. It's science, and.
Speaker 1: There's a natural element where RJ could come in, right,
Speaker 1: I remember him coming in and he could be a
Speaker 1: cultural renaissance on his own with his style.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But then there is a science about records. There's a
Speaker 1: science about this business. And if you don't quite know it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you will never maximize potential.
Speaker 1: You will never maximize possibility. Joe moses different people to
Speaker 1: me that are like cultural renaissance on their own. Like
Speaker 1: them dudes are like culturally incredible. Nothing is more hip
Speaker 1: hopp than some of them dudes. But you gotta do
Speaker 1: the record side of the business.
Speaker 2: Shout out to.
Speaker 1: Unknown raider God. That is where Jake Paul messed up.
Speaker 1: He said his dream is to become a champion. That
Speaker 1: will never happen with the route he's taking. That's because
Speaker 1: that's not his goal to be a champion. His goal
Speaker 1: is being achieved. Every time he goes to the bank account,
Speaker 1: he's selling you the marketing of him wanting to be
Speaker 1: a champion to.
Speaker 2: Keep driving your hate.
Speaker 1: He knows the route to become a boxing world champion,
Speaker 1: he knows it is obvious, but again he's marketing to
Speaker 1: you that to drive your hate for him. To make
Speaker 1: you watch him. Everything Jake Paul sells is the same
Speaker 1: thing Floyd Mayweather, So you just want to see him lose.
Speaker 1: So he keeps putting himself in the ring with the
Speaker 1: least the lesser gamble of beating him that you think
Speaker 1: could beat him. That's what he's selling you. He's selling
Speaker 1: you who you think could beat him, and he's getting
Speaker 1: in the ring with them, and he's making educated guesses
Speaker 1: on it every time. So the confusion is that you
Speaker 1: really believe that he thinks his goal is to be
Speaker 1: a champion.
Speaker 2: That's just to market.
Speaker 1: It's like when it's like when a rapper markets independent
Speaker 1: even though they signed to a record label.
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean that's like, you know, there's also an
Speaker 3: element to it. I don't know what it is. We
Speaker 3: live in an era that has just got a hard
Speaker 3: on for a nostalgia like I've never seen. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: But the people that Joe viewer gets more personal gratification
Speaker 3: out of seeing, hypothetically Mike Tyson, with whom they have
Speaker 3: an emotional connection, knock out Jake Paul than if we
Speaker 3: put in coyote Dude.
Speaker 4: We're talking about the other day that.
Speaker 3: No one knows by and large, he's not like way
Speaker 3: into boxing, just roll up and just lay his ass out.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like people don't get the same gratification out of that,
Speaker 3: so they're willing to pay more to see that opportunity
Speaker 3: if it were.
Speaker 1: It's not nostalgia, like it's who do people know and
Speaker 1: think could knock you out because they have to know
Speaker 1: you sure sure so, Like his goal is to make
Speaker 1: the educated guess. And just like when it comes to
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop, I do think impact matters, but
Speaker 1: I think how you get back to that, it's nothing
Speaker 1: to get back to. Like if there was a problem
Speaker 1: with West Coast hip hop is our culture is revered
Speaker 1: all around the world. Our culture is studied. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: who we are. We're not presenting anything new culturally, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We're not presenting anything new culturally.
Speaker 1: There's nothing new culturally happening as a movement on the
Speaker 1: West Coast that's worth talking about. Like, everybody knows who
Speaker 1: we are. They everybody you know. Most people can name
Speaker 1: a crip that they know. Most people can name a blood,
Speaker 1: most people can name popular people from this culture. There's
Speaker 1: films there have been films about West Coast street urban
Speaker 1: culture now for almost forty years. Colors is loosely on it,
Speaker 1: like that's how long Hollywood has been showcasing our lives
Speaker 1: and the way we.
Speaker 2: Live on the West. So it's just it's just stale.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: It's just stale. It's nothing wrong. It's not about music.
Speaker 1: Like this is the thing about hip hop. Hip hop
Speaker 1: is not music first. Hip hop is culture first then music.
Speaker 1: And and this is why the arguments happen all the
Speaker 1: time on social media because people didn't do their studies.
Speaker 1: Everybody black streak. They feel entitled to hip hop, but
Speaker 1: they don't quite understand what's going on or the business
Speaker 1: itself of it. They just feel like it's something innately,
Speaker 1: like most people think black people can play basketball.
Speaker 2: Most you niggas can't play basketball. But again that's.
Speaker 4: What people of us.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying probably not even still.
Speaker 1: But again it's like these are the things that we
Speaker 1: feel like in native we understand that we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't take the time to understand them. So hip
Speaker 2: hop is coaching first, music second. And that's the trick.
Speaker 1: Everybody is spoiled with West Coast Street urban culture everybody spoiled.
Speaker 1: It's they so spoiled, bro, that now there's gangs, crips
Speaker 1: and blood gangs in everybody's town. Yeah, like crips and bloods,
Speaker 1: gangs in everybody's town. There's like, every town got cripson bloods.
Speaker 1: There are kids who grew up in this world, teenagers,
Speaker 1: maybe even twenty, that didn't know gang bangs.
Speaker 2: Started on the West Coast.
Speaker 1: There are people who grow up in this world that
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, hip hop started in New York.
Speaker 1: That's how spoiled people are with West Coast culture. Most
Speaker 1: people don't realize Kentucky Fried Chicken is an Americanized version
Speaker 1: of soul food, a mainstream pop version of soul food.
Speaker 1: They don't know that. They just think that's soul food.
Speaker 1: Most people think Taco bell is Mexican food. People don't know, man,
Speaker 1: And you gotta understand why they wouldn't know, because they
Speaker 1: just don't know, straight up, bro, they don't fucking know,
Speaker 1: and they don't got time to know it. Why the
Speaker 1: fuck should they know? You can't even get mad that
Speaker 1: people don't know or don't care. Why should they?
Speaker 2: What the fuck do it got to do with they life.
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 3: I mean, you go through the night club and it
Speaker 3: saw drops, people start dancing, cares you know about the
Speaker 3: backstory at that point, they haven't drink and danced some
Speaker 3: good time whatever the genre music is, or the nightclub
Speaker 3: for that matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like, it's like the West Coast has
Speaker 1: been producing legendary hip hop acts since eighty five, since
Speaker 1: Iced Tea, since Too Short.
Speaker 2: That's eighty three.
Speaker 1: That's eighty four and eighty five, right, like shit, The
Speaker 1: last one is probably Kendrick or Tyler Tyler. Kendrick is
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, good Kid Messity. I think it's eleven or twelve.
Speaker 1: Tyler is probably thirteen fourteen, his first debut album come out,
Speaker 1: like the Oshit Cat is probably sixteen seventeen. I mean, goddamn,
Speaker 1: you can't have the ball all the time, bro, You
Speaker 1: cannot have the ball all the time. Bro, Everybody know us.
Speaker 1: Everybody know us. We are not the ball of the
Speaker 1: ball anymore. Culturally, West Coast Street urban culture is not
Speaker 1: the bell of the ball anymore.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: We're trying to learn about other shit that we don't
Speaker 1: know about. People don't care to keep learning. They don't
Speaker 1: their desires not to take a deep dive into who
Speaker 1: the founder of crips was. That's not their job. They
Speaker 1: from another town. They got to figure out they own shit.
Speaker 2: Culturally.
Speaker 1: Most people don't even shit. You could ask most people
Speaker 1: right now. Ask some of your homeboys. Shout out to
Speaker 1: everybody in the chat. No Saler's live the lunch hour Monday,
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday noon specific standard time. Click that thumbs up.
Speaker 1: But ask some of your homies that game bang. If
Speaker 1: you game, ask some homes that game bang. Nine percent
Speaker 1: of them niggas don't know who started their neighborhood. Don't
Speaker 1: know the niggas who started their game, let alone to
Speaker 1: know who started all this other shit.
Speaker 2: Don't nobody got time for that. They don't.
Speaker 1: They're not looking for depth. That was the mistake I
Speaker 1: made with two pot months Die. I thought people were
Speaker 1: looking for depth into culture.
Speaker 2: They not.
Speaker 1: Most people not looking for the best soul food restaurant.
Speaker 1: They looking for the cheapest, most convenient soulful That's why
Speaker 1: they go to Kentucky Fried Chicken or.
Speaker 3: In other cases, they're looking for the restaurant that's got
Speaker 3: the most cache to take the selfiet.
Speaker 4: People don't come.
Speaker 3: Here and go to Elouise and Ernestine's in Miami. They
Speaker 3: come here and go to the licking and take a
Speaker 3: picture because they're so original for going to the I
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck they want to go DJ
Speaker 3: Colors for, but they sure should do.
Speaker 2: Shout out the name brand. That's why Drake works exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he covers the surface of all culture which
Speaker 1: is mainstream and.
Speaker 3: He got in with baby and then at the right
Speaker 3: time they knew the shit because they were forty five.
Speaker 2: Years old, exactly. It's a great point.
Speaker 1: Fucking tune was probably thirty four or something at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they don't they're not digging deep into the cultures,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Uh.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Unknown.
Speaker 1: Raider Guy, Hey Glasses, speaking of Tupac months died, Did
Speaker 1: you really film the video at MGM? I did everything
Speaker 1: through the location, Unknown Raider Guy. I went and shot
Speaker 1: it inside the MGM. I went shot it right out
Speaker 1: side of it. I shot it all true the location,
Speaker 1: everything through the location. I went to the Lakewood Mall
Speaker 1: for the flashback. That's the actual mall. So again, that's
Speaker 1: one of them things that I understood as an artist
Speaker 1: that I am great at. But I also understood cultureally.
Speaker 1: Why people I just learned, why people don't appreciate it.
Speaker 1: They're not into it that deep. That's why people got
Speaker 1: so mad about Tupac must die. In their mind, they
Speaker 1: didn't hear the nuance that I'm speaking of. They just
Speaker 1: heard glasses think it's okay that this nigga killed Tupac.
Speaker 2: That's all they heard.
Speaker 1: That's highlighted and condensed, condensed and heightened. That's what they
Speaker 1: think it means.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So that's the thing hip
Speaker 2: hop is.
Speaker 1: You know again, it's for people to make sense out
Speaker 1: of their own life, not about your life. It's so
Speaker 1: they can make sense out of their own life. How
Speaker 1: do they use this for their own life? And most
Speaker 1: people ain't gonna run into gang bangers, and you know,
Speaker 1: and they friends ain't finna jump a game banger that
Speaker 1: storied me's nothing to them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They don't have no meaning to them at all. But honestly,
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that's wrong with West Coast
Speaker 1: hip hop is the whole world is spoiled by our
Speaker 1: culture already, our forefathers of this hip hop thing. This
Speaker 1: is such a fantastic job that there is really nothing
Speaker 1: to expose, so you really just plan the game where
Speaker 1: culturely you don't have anything much offer to you don't
Speaker 1: have much things to offer.
Speaker 3: That's new, and I think that's also like what we
Speaker 3: talked about when we go to Atlanta, Like there is.
Speaker 4: A certain.
Speaker 3: Aspect to just LA's culture when you're there that is
Speaker 3: going to and you can define it any way you
Speaker 3: want to, all say, like it's going to remain true
Speaker 3: to itself and there's going to be a certain the
Speaker 3: appropriate word is, but it it doesn't just morphed and
Speaker 3: evolve into anything at any time. It stays largely centered
Speaker 3: around its base and opposed to like by comparison Atlanta
Speaker 3: that will morph and change into really anything.
Speaker 2: You know, al we say, but that's not even true,
Speaker 2: that's overstated. Right.
Speaker 1: Let me get to this shout out to Beezy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from a far surface level, it looked like he was
Speaker 1: happy about pog dying when that song came out. And
Speaker 1: that's my point, because it takes a different type of
Speaker 1: human to understand nuance of something else outside of them.
Speaker 2: That's not a standard thing.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize again it goes back to that
Speaker 1: book that I've been raving about on this podcast, The
Speaker 1: Anatomy of a Story by John Truby, where he talks
Speaker 1: about that that's what they feel like. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Madon Kemmick's my first time seeing you. How you just
Speaker 1: poked then't wonder why the West Coast is dead? You
Speaker 1: get it like it's not his fault. It's not his
Speaker 1: fault that he couldn't like it's not so fought, Madonna.
Speaker 1: You couldn't dissect the nuance of me explaining street urban
Speaker 1: culture from the West and how we make sense out
Speaker 1: of the way we live, versus you just thinking out
Speaker 1: this pop. I couldn't even be upset at that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It don't make like I get
Speaker 1: it now, like I get where I went wrong. I
Speaker 1: went wrong because I tried to give you something that
Speaker 1: you could never understand.
Speaker 2: Or ask for. It's way past your you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean, Like you got too much shit in
Speaker 1: your own life to be worried about me giving you
Speaker 1: nuances of what going on, what's going on in our lives.
Speaker 1: You just want the heightened and condensed version of how
Speaker 1: we live to make sense for your own mind. But
Speaker 1: it's weird, like and I don't mean this as an insult, Bro,
Speaker 1: it's weird that you know what I mean, people think
Speaker 1: somebody like me, who if you hear any of my music,
Speaker 1: I have all Tupac, DNA and my music, and I
Speaker 1: talk about him with a different reverence that people would
Speaker 1: even think.
Speaker 2: I would this pop.
Speaker 1: But it's not just you corrupt thought I this pop
Speaker 1: like that. Nigga was cussing me out when he first
Speaker 1: heard the song. I was like, Bro, why the fuck
Speaker 1: would you think I was this Tupac? Doctor Dre sat
Speaker 1: me down at the studio, was cussing me out because
Speaker 1: he thought I this Tupac. And I'm like, cause you've
Speaker 1: been knowing me since I was a kid like that,
Speaker 1: Nigga knew me not a kid. I was twenty two
Speaker 1: when I met Doctor Drake. Nigga, why would you think
Speaker 1: I would this Tupac? How did how did you look
Speaker 1: at that and think knowing me? You didn't talk to
Speaker 1: me all these times and think to yourself glasses with
Speaker 1: insult Tupac. That's just crazy.
Speaker 3: You're the one who didn't put the parentheses on that.
Speaker 3: If you put Tupac was die. The baby lame story no.
Speaker 2: One had a question, That's what it says.
Speaker 4: It says that, yes where on a YouTube, straight up.
Speaker 3: In the video or on the on the video, on
Speaker 3: the title, it says that.
Speaker 4: I'll pull this up right now.
Speaker 1: On the title it says that, no, lie, it says
Speaker 1: that it's not none of that. I'm telling you, fucking
Speaker 1: John Truby is a genius, bro. John Truby is a genius.
Speaker 1: And I finally got it. It was like, Oh, they
Speaker 1: not even hearing all of this shit. They just not
Speaker 1: even hearing all this shit. They not even reading it.
Speaker 1: They just again, people got their own lives to live.
Speaker 1: They got their own lives to live, Bro, They don't
Speaker 1: got time for nuance. You know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: just ain't the thing. Shut out to the homie Revenge name.
Speaker 1: The classic album since two thousand and five from West
Speaker 1: Coast hip hop is just counting on one hand. Musically,
Speaker 1: the South guy, the West Coast artists don't make classics.
Speaker 1: Just k dot, you don't need new listen. The problem
Speaker 1: is first, that's just not true. Atlanta is going through
Speaker 1: the same thing. California is going through. Georgia is going
Speaker 1: through it. They haven't broken a new act in probably
Speaker 1: five or six years, because we're spoiled by Georgia culture.
Speaker 1: We know everything about their streets culturally, we know what
Speaker 1: they're into, we know how they hustle, we know everything
Speaker 1: about what they got going on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's normal for any New York is going through
Speaker 1: the same thing anywhere where hip hop has been predominantly
Speaker 1: and just it's been so much West Coast, whether it's
Speaker 1: the Bay Area or southern southern California culturally that you
Speaker 1: don't need new stuff from us anymore. You just don't,
Speaker 1: and you don't care about revisiting the stuff we already
Speaker 1: showed you.
Speaker 2: At this point. You spoiled by it.
Speaker 1: You've had access to it a million times. So it's
Speaker 1: not about do they make classic albums? Can culturally it
Speaker 1: create a new space? Like do you really think it's
Speaker 1: just music and it's more than music?
Speaker 4: I think that's really true to a large degree.
Speaker 3: Like I don't get the sense that the genre in
Speaker 3: general is illuminating cities and the way it used to.
Speaker 3: I could be tripping, but it's like I can't think
Speaker 3: of a city that, Like you said the same thing
Speaker 3: about Miami. You can say the same thing about New Orleans.
Speaker 3: They had windows that were putting out a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3: They were shining a line on This is how it
Speaker 3: really goes on here, you know what I mean? It's
Speaker 3: different here than there. You can kind of see it,
Speaker 3: and it's really interesting. I don't see it, like, I
Speaker 3: don't really see it unless it's just like to me
Speaker 3: and like, there's a lot of people coming out of Memphis,
Speaker 3: but I don't necessarily think that there's a lot.
Speaker 4: Of Memphis coming out of them, if that makes me sense.
Speaker 2: But that's my point.
Speaker 1: That's also why if you look like Memphis, like you
Speaker 1: gotta look at Southern California as a cultural movement and
Speaker 1: you're talking about ice tea, Easy Nwa, Doctor Dre, Snoop Dogg, Like, like,
Speaker 1: think about how many legendary acts were in the first
Speaker 1: seven or in the first ten years. Sure, like huge
Speaker 1: legendary acts. Shout out to groups like A Ball and MJG. Right,
Speaker 1: them guys who who really laid the foundation down for Memphis.
Speaker 1: But you know they don't have the same stardom as
Speaker 1: an ice Cube or a Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 2: We got guys that have the.
Speaker 1: Same stardom Ice Tea is probably as big of a
Speaker 1: star as Cute Like.
Speaker 2: He's probably as.
Speaker 1: Famous to maybe not quite, but he's on the same
Speaker 1: level as Ice and Ice Cube Dog is fucking Iced Tea.
Speaker 1: He is famous, probably as Ice Tupop is probably as fair.
Speaker 1: The first ten years of West Coast hip hop too short,
Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, Like we got ten people in
Speaker 1: the first two years. Ten years, Memphis don't even have
Speaker 1: one person as famous as Ice Tea.
Speaker 2: Memphis hip hop, that's the first guy, the.
Speaker 1: First Lord knows a Snoop Dogg or Ice Cube Memphis
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 2: For as great culturally as it is, they.
Speaker 1: Don't have one star as famous and as popular as
Speaker 1: Ice Tea.
Speaker 4: Sure do I get that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, you know, I listened to like
Speaker 3: say like a Pat or Gotti or something like that.
Speaker 3: There was more Memphis in that music than now. It's
Speaker 3: just music that's coming out of Memphis. But there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of Memphis that's coming out of the music.
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's true.
Speaker 2: In a lot of parts of it.
Speaker 1: I think Memphis right with Glow. I think the culture
Speaker 1: of how she enunciates words. But but that's my point too.
Speaker 1: Revenge I agree, we know the West Coast for classic albums,
Speaker 1: but not recently. That's my that's that's not the point.
Speaker 1: Like culturally, what's happening is going to be important, Like right,
Speaker 1: how new something is culturally to you?
Speaker 2: Like a Chief Key first album?
Speaker 1: Right, finally famous, Like that's the beginning of the coach
Speaker 1: and then people learning.
Speaker 2: Culture, Like we pick up culture so fast.
Speaker 1: Now, like man, like it took years for certain things
Speaker 1: to be popular when I was growing up, Like the
Speaker 1: way we acted, the way we talk away New York talk,
Speaker 1: it took years for it to get become popular and
Speaker 1: become mainstream. When the Chicago dudes starts saying, right, they
Speaker 1: start saying putting ops in packs they smoking on like
Speaker 1: the pack of an enemy. Right, They saying this person
Speaker 1: represents weed, and now that they passed away, I'm smoking
Speaker 1: this person's ashes.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the thought.
Speaker 1: They were saying that on ESPN in twenty sixteen. I
Speaker 1: first heard it in twenty fourteen. They were saying it
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. I've heard culture go so fast from
Speaker 1: ground level to the news in two months. Sure you
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. So again, there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: hip hop on the West Coast. It's just it's our
Speaker 1: culture is mainstream to some degree. Now everybody has a
Speaker 1: version of our culture in their town.
Speaker 2: The things that we celebrate that.
Speaker 1: Made it, that made us us, everybody has those things now.
Speaker 1: Everybody has those things now, Bro, everybody has those things.
Speaker 2: Now. We can't even be proud of crips and bloods.
Speaker 1: Bro, everybody got cripson bloods every town. There is no
Speaker 1: longer any social currency saying you're a crip in the blood.
Speaker 2: Everybody has those.
Speaker 1: Everybody has those just where it's at culturally, our forefathers
Speaker 1: did the.
Speaker 2: Best job our man.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Memphis culture is just as dense and
Speaker 1: coarse as Los Angeles like.
Speaker 2: They do things a Memphis way.
Speaker 1: They dance a certain way, they music a certain way,
Speaker 1: they talk a certain way, they acts in a certain way,
Speaker 1: they dress a certain way. Everything about them is identified.
Speaker 1: You can see their cars, you can see all of
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And again, Ice Tea is still more famous than everybody
Speaker 1: from their Culturely, that's the first guy from Los Angeles
Speaker 1: street urban culture. So again, it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's nothing wrong. Goddamn, they already did it. They
Speaker 1: already did it. It's a conversation to culture and everybody
Speaker 1: got our version of their culture in their town. So
Speaker 1: just being a crip has no social currency no more.
Speaker 1: That's like right now, if you come out saying you
Speaker 1: make drill music, it just probably won't hit the same
Speaker 1: because every England got a drill music. They don't even
Speaker 1: got guns, and they have a drill music in England.
Speaker 4: They call it using drills.
Speaker 2: They mean they are working on houses.
Speaker 3: Glasses to get where's the money?
Speaker 1: But think about this, right, It's like like UK has
Speaker 1: drill music and they don't have guns. New York is
Speaker 1: probably the worst town, the worst state in the United
Speaker 1: States and the whole Union that are the hardest on guns,
Speaker 1: and it's the least amount of guns probably.
Speaker 2: And they got drill music. You feel me.
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the cultural peal is not there. Shout out to real
Speaker 1: settists who started this conversation, and I appreciate you being here.
Speaker 1: No sentners live to lunch hour. We're still cooking. Got
Speaker 1: a little bit more time longst p ain't chipping, I
Speaker 1: ain't chipping. Wait a manu ain't nobody bought us lunch.
Speaker 2: Neither.
Speaker 1: Don't make me get on here and be begging for
Speaker 1: y'all for no damn super CHATSI we talking to y'all
Speaker 1: could buy us lunch. I know you're sitting on your
Speaker 1: desk and click that little cash box under the comments
Speaker 1: buy us some lunch.
Speaker 2: Don't be like that.
Speaker 1: This wasn't a convo about numbers, only LA culture impact
Speaker 1: from West Coast rap on hip hop.
Speaker 2: Well that's the point, right. It's like.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is culture, so our culture, our street urban culture.
Speaker 2: Is over discovered, it's over revealed. So that's driving why
Speaker 2: the music is.
Speaker 1: We don't have the excitement of who we are, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of excitement goes into marketing new right. Outside
Speaker 1: of that, you have to figure out something else. So
Speaker 1: it's up to all West Coast artists too to You
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to make it exciting. You
Speaker 1: gotta be on YouTube to do it. Set this, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you can't do it from Twitter, big dog. We don't
Speaker 1: got no ain't no thing on Twitter. But on the
Speaker 1: YouTube link, yeah, you could do it. Cav Yeah, but yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Drill music.
Speaker 1: But that's the same thing. Like they had to run,
Speaker 1: you would have to go to the YouTube. So it
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter what j I phone. You got to do
Speaker 1: it from Cherry on bo LUNs bos lunch.
Speaker 2: Scherry be like that like that, they don't be like
Speaker 2: that Sharry's lunch.
Speaker 1: Uh, shout out to name brand. So real artists have
Speaker 1: no reason to be deep if no one is mining
Speaker 1: for it. I mean deep, it is different, right, Deep
Speaker 1: don't have to be the way we perceive it. Right,
Speaker 1: it's nuanced, it's nuanced. It's nuanced, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Nuance is not necessarily what people really are looking for. No,
Speaker 1: people really want their their stories heightened and condensed. And
Speaker 1: you can't be upset at them, bro, Like you can't
Speaker 1: be upset at them. Shout out to Sherry. She brought
Speaker 1: us some lunch. Ten donas, Thank you, Sherry, Thank y'all.
Speaker 1: That's two burgers, my dog, Pete and Florida. So, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you ain't got up with him Peter
Speaker 1: in Florida. I don't know how you ain't got share
Speaker 1: that lady who moved to Florida. Yeah, you pulled her up,
Speaker 1: and that's what's wrong. Like I'm with you said this.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything is wrong with West Coast hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's the point. I think I think everybody would do better.
Speaker 1: I think younger artists would do better to have the
Speaker 1: wisdom and the knowledge and experience and the science that
Speaker 1: the legends obviously like. How could you not be better
Speaker 1: off if you listen to ice Cube or Gotta answer
Speaker 1: out ice Cube about something you wanted to know or
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg or Ice Team or exhibit. I mean, these
Speaker 1: motherfuckers is millionaires and they've been doing this at this
Speaker 1: high level that they're platinum acts.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, film stars to some degree.
Speaker 1: All of these guys I named are film stars. And
Speaker 1: I think I think the legends could use especially because
Speaker 1: they're still releasing music. I think they could use the
Speaker 1: cultural renaissance and the and the modern interpretation and energy
Speaker 1: of a young person. I think everybody could benefit from it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think everybody could benefit
Speaker 1: from it. I think everybody could benefit from it, but
Speaker 1: they have to make a choice. I'm with you said this,
Speaker 1: I go find my young homies.
Speaker 2: I go find the young homies, and I go work
Speaker 2: with them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Joey and Deuce and the younger homies
Speaker 1: White Dog, and then my young homie out of pass it.
Speaker 1: Then I go find the young ones and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go see Dre and I'm gonna go see Warren, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Warren how do I do this? I
Speaker 1: told them all to do the same thing. I think
Speaker 1: it's a value in all of them. But if they
Speaker 1: if they don't realize they need each other and not
Speaker 1: even need Because a young artist Joe Moses is fine,
Speaker 1: yg is fine, you know what I'm saying, even younger,
Speaker 1: Let's let's go to Solk City a three to one.
Speaker 1: Oh baby, he's fine. Zoel Sama is fine. Zoel Sama
Speaker 1: don't have to talk to me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But could he benefit from talking to Glasses?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Because could he benefit from talking to Snoop Yes? Could
Speaker 1: he benefit from talking to Bactin Hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But it's up to you to make that decision. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Sherry. Sherry said, oh no, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: just leave y'all with no burger. Got us some fries too.
Speaker 2: That's my dog. That's why I let Sherry cuts me
Speaker 2: out on Live bro.
Speaker 4: Damn right, And you keep it up. Don't give him up.
Speaker 4: You don't take off nobody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Triven Sherry cuts me out.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Squishy, our number one supporter in our
Speaker 1: original She send me a bunch of screenshots where she
Speaker 1: had tweeted us and I never saw it.
Speaker 4: Squisher could cuss us out any day of the week.
Speaker 2: Fucking right.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna barbecue for Squish when we do the
Speaker 1: No Sillers Barbecue next year. Because we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: No Sellis barbecue, y'all gonna have to fly in town.
Speaker 2: Yep, come up, flying town.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a No Siller's Barbecue, and uh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna make sure we hook it. I got you, Squiz.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do some good stuff. Shout out to real settings.
Speaker 1: I just want to keep the Golden Age window open.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, set it and I just think it's
Speaker 1: hard because we're fighting like a monumental job. That snoop
Speaker 1: ice ta ice q eazy e n w A m
Speaker 1: C A coolio. They did a monumental job. Not to mention,
Speaker 1: we had Hollywood, you know what I mean. We had
Speaker 1: John Singleton, We had you know, people like the dude
Speaker 1: who made Colors.
Speaker 2: Who directed? Is that Sean directed that? Somebody directed that?
Speaker 1: Like we've had like the the the Hughes Brothers, they
Speaker 1: culturally have revealed West Coast Street urban lifestyle to another level.
Speaker 1: So it's like we are fighting, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like really great jobs by like by entertainment giants, like
Speaker 1: Snoop is the greatest hip hop artist ever, Like it's great,
Speaker 1: Like he's done a fantastic job. Because doctor Dre like
Speaker 1: DJ Quick, fantastic job. So you know, shit, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta be creative. Shout out to the Tomie Fast Yes,
Speaker 1: Sherry from Compton, that is Sharry from Compton. Uh real,
Speaker 1: sudden see you know of these guys we don't bro
Speaker 1: you got it. You just got to do your homework.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Nick Man. I appreciate the five dollars.
Speaker 1: That's good lunches today. Salute g and the West East
Speaker 1: shot that part right there, player that part right there.
Speaker 1: I had to tell a Homi Sutus because Sutus was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm from He was like, respectfully, I'm from Compton, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm from Willerdbrook and Greenley. If I'm like yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm from Oleander and Carwell Nigga.
Speaker 2: I went to Kennedy and Walton.
Speaker 1: People know I'm from Watts, but they don't realize I
Speaker 1: grew up in Compton the same. So I know I
Speaker 1: remember having Toddy t in Spain and Nwa and not
Speaker 1: really tripping off or not really tripping off of them
Speaker 1: being from Compton until quick. So you know we spoiled
Speaker 1: too because we come up in a fray of it all.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Don Duff for the five dollars. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Don we cooking were getting the work. Shout out to
Speaker 1: b Bray. Snoop was a double aged getting diggler, getting
Speaker 1: diddled for the dollar, never standing in his own two feet,
Speaker 1: jumping from label to label. Protection Now that's gangster it
Speaker 1: he Bray, that's for it's a business. That's just don't
Speaker 1: be crazy like him signing record deals because he don't
Speaker 1: know how to run a record label. Is incredible. That's
Speaker 1: why he's the greatest hip hop act ever.
Speaker 4: James of hip hop. He's got ringsed.
Speaker 2: Like he's a champion.
Speaker 1: Bro, He's the greatest, Like you know what I mean, Like, Uh,
Speaker 1: somebody asked a question about death row let me find
Speaker 1: that question about death Row.
Speaker 2: That was a dope question. Where is it at?
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me, do I think death Row can recapture glory?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I think Snoop is going the right direction.
Speaker 1: I think he's finding certain type of R and B
Speaker 1: acts and he's really he got some real talent too.
Speaker 1: He didn't just get popular people. He got people that
Speaker 1: had these unique sounds and you know, you look at
Speaker 1: a couple of actually got some of this stuff can happen.
Speaker 1: I mean like, like, yes, I think. And it's weird
Speaker 1: because that was Shig's visions. Three Pops like Sug was
Speaker 1: he wanted to do R and B because I think
Speaker 1: one of Shug's greatest influences. I never asked him. I'm
Speaker 1: ask him. We need to get him on here.
Speaker 4: But to the Francis Phone interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can probably get him on here. We get
Speaker 2: big Pops to do it.
Speaker 1: He ain't tripping, but I'm saying I think Snoop is
Speaker 1: fulfilling the last legacy that Shug.
Speaker 2: Wanted for an R and B.
Speaker 1: And that's why if you look at him, he's doing
Speaker 1: the legendary acts right. He gave you the east side
Speaker 1: of his album Dog food Snoop Dog album Trip Off
Speaker 1: This Death Row Aftermath Innerscope is released in Missionary.
Speaker 2: That's historical coup in itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's historical in itself. Much loved to Dangster. Shout
Speaker 1: out Sherry for the major support to the channels. Sherry
Speaker 1: support me in real life. That's the only reason I
Speaker 1: let her cuts me out and I never say nothing
Speaker 1: real set has called me crazy. But house parties played
Speaker 1: a big part in developing younger artists and cultivating a
Speaker 1: fan base. No one owns houses anymore. But great point,
Speaker 1: and said is no, he makes a great point. I'll
Speaker 1: be telling my homeboys this in the group chat. They
Speaker 1: didn't pissed me off, and I ain't been talking to
Speaker 1: him because they just stubborn as fuck. But like the
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop scene had a foundation where the
Speaker 1: party right. So whether it was at a house or
Speaker 1: at a club right, that was the infrastructure on how
Speaker 1: we broke records, all our records.
Speaker 2: The core of our sound is rooted in funk. The core.
Speaker 1: Obviously you got eight who got some different stuff. You
Speaker 1: got warned who she could be a little jazzy, but
Speaker 1: it's still funky. But for the most part, the core
Speaker 1: of our you know, sound is funk.
Speaker 2: So the party was everything.
Speaker 1: Our party scene kind of died because we adopted.
Speaker 2: Now this is my personal thing. As matter of fact.
Speaker 1: We can hold this for Friday, but I'll just visit
Speaker 1: it real fast. Why that the party died? Shout out
Speaker 1: to little bro Dot Kendrick. He dropped watched the party die.
Speaker 1: Now I think Friday we should talk about why the
Speaker 1: party is dying.
Speaker 4: I have I have an answer for that myself.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be great. So we're gonna hold it to
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 1: But I think the party dying is also hurting the
Speaker 1: West Coast because the core.
Speaker 2: Of our sound was rooted in funk. That was the foundation.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta be creative and remember, Kendrick sound is
Speaker 1: not rooted in funk. Tyler sound is not rooted in funk.
Speaker 1: Uh uh, what's the what's the cistern?
Speaker 2: She from?
Speaker 1: She from La too, She's from the valley. She got
Speaker 1: to paint the town doja cats. Sound is not rooted
Speaker 1: in funk. It's not rooted in funk. So where is
Speaker 1: the West hip hop without funk?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: And what's funk without the party? True? You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, what's funk without the party?
Speaker 1: Shout out to Revene what we say glasses hip hop
Speaker 1: needs a new Where's the new classic album? Where's the
Speaker 1: new Doctor Dre? Where's the new Snoop? Where is the
Speaker 1: new Top Dog?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Pg lang?
Speaker 1: Where's the West Coast at? Where's the West Coast at?
Speaker 1: Nipsey and DoD had it? But where the new twenty
Speaker 1: three year old with the classic?
Speaker 4: I mean that's for a lot of density and time.
Speaker 3: I mean there's not any place that's producing that degree
Speaker 3: of density.
Speaker 4: There's always a gap, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the new culture that we should say?
Speaker 1: Let's let's pull it away from artists. Let's stop making
Speaker 1: it like Doctor Dre is the star Let's stop making
Speaker 1: it like Snoop Dogg is the star Let's not make
Speaker 1: it like top Dog is the star Let's not make
Speaker 1: it like Nipsey Hustle is the star or Kadok. Let's
Speaker 1: make the culture the star Let's make the stuff that
Speaker 1: TOOKI Raymond Terry Goudo, Peabody from Lanes, Let's make that
Speaker 1: the star the culture the star Let's make baby Gangster
Speaker 1: from Santana.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the old Gummy. Let's make.
Speaker 1: Hancho not not not Big brother Hancho, but Hancho from
Speaker 1: Great They are the stars, Turtle from Santana. That's who
Speaker 1: the stars were. The culture is the star, So the
Speaker 1: artists represent the culture. Pudding and tam Or was a star.
Speaker 1: Mob James and his Prime.
Speaker 2: Was a star.
Speaker 1: That lifestyle is the star. That's what everybody fell in
Speaker 1: love with. The artists don't do nothing but artistically express
Speaker 1: the culture. So where is the new culture?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: That's you know, the Doctor DREDA chronic album is rooted
Speaker 1: around us standing up and fighting outside of gang banging
Speaker 1: and the way we lived our lives, but also us
Speaker 1: standing up against you know, the state of California for
Speaker 1: not convicting the police officers over Rodney King. That's what
Speaker 1: made the Chronic the chronic. The culture is the start.
Speaker 1: The culture is the leader of hip hop. So you
Speaker 1: don't get all of that stuff. You don't get the
Speaker 1: classic albums without a classic culture. You don't get a
Speaker 1: classic artist without classic culture. You gotta really figure out
Speaker 1: where is the culture at That's the trick. And I've
Speaker 1: been thinking real deep about this. I've been thinking real
Speaker 1: deep about this shout out to Fats. I love this podcast.
Speaker 1: I learned something new every episode. That's the gold.
Speaker 2: Fats like I I'm.
Speaker 1: Here to teach bro, I'm here to pass information. I'm
Speaker 1: here to tell you what doctor Dre told me. Because
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre may not tell you, Snoop may not tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what they told me. You gonna
Speaker 1: get it from me. I'm gonna tell you when me
Speaker 1: and Kill sing that, I'm gonna tell you what he
Speaker 1: told me. I'm gonna give y'all the gang I tell
Speaker 1: y'all with Mac Tien tell me all the time. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pass the wisdom to you because I know that
Speaker 1: I'm may not be the person to use it and
Speaker 1: you may be able to use it.
Speaker 3: I think one story that's not been told yet in
Speaker 3: hip hop, out of LA that has a lot of potential,
Speaker 3: like in its era, like I mean like a timeframe,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like LA and gang culture
Speaker 3: and a lot of the stuff that was going on
Speaker 3: had it's It was visually, optically, structurally, culturally so unique
Speaker 3: relative to any other place, you know, it was. It
Speaker 3: was more something that you could it had a brand,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying more than other places. One
Speaker 3: thing that La has that other cities don't have to
Speaker 3: that degree. In the era of female rappers, LA has
Speaker 3: the sleaziest, hustling, ass conniving who ass bitches like nobody
Speaker 3: else in this country. And one of them needs to
Speaker 3: make a goddamn them album.
Speaker 2: It needs to be a group of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like the second place city is probably
Speaker 3: the one I'm in now well, and and the Bay,
Speaker 3: the Bay, but the Bay is still La women or
Speaker 3: seven La and Miami really got it, but there needs
Speaker 3: to be La needs to do city girls in the
Speaker 3: way that it really doesn't. The thing about like I
Speaker 3: feel like Miami, it's so physically narrow geographically, you could
Speaker 3: be the most like hood rat ass chick and you
Speaker 3: like fucking a mile and a half, you know, you
Speaker 3: have nowhere to go, Like you go in any direction,
Speaker 3: you can only go you're alligators or you're you know,
Speaker 3: at fucking carbones getting a seven thousand dollars, you know,
Speaker 3: steak dinner or something like that.
Speaker 4: They immediately race there. They get there so fast. They're
Speaker 4: in La.
Speaker 3: It's so big, it's like you can stay like an
Speaker 3: insular street hustling woman much longer, you know, would have
Speaker 3: a bigger story.
Speaker 4: And the way that they do it.
Speaker 3: It's it's not like, oh, I just happened to get
Speaker 3: on the train with some ass cheeks hanging out and
Speaker 3: then like some rich lawyer threw me into his car
Speaker 3: because I'll have to go fifty feet to find him.
Speaker 3: Like you have to have real crafts and ship and
Speaker 3: real angles and real game out there, and they got
Speaker 3: more of other places.
Speaker 1: Man, that's my little homegirl, Creana. There was some stuff
Speaker 1: in a prime that's a great point, and we need
Speaker 1: to find that. That's something we should offer the world. Uh,
Speaker 1: shout out to name brand. Like you said, we spoiled
Speaker 1: from having all this party culture. Well that spoils the
Speaker 1: artists and the business, so you don't learn marketing. The
Speaker 1: rest of the country is spoiled from West Coast street
Speaker 1: urban culture.
Speaker 2: Period, so they don't really value it. It's like if you.
Speaker 1: Like, human beings are not is it fair to say, pete,
Speaker 1: human beings are not naturally uh the two it is
Speaker 1: like they're not they're not grateful, Like is it fair
Speaker 1: to say, like they tend to neglect things that happen
Speaker 1: so easy, like waking up two thousand percent.
Speaker 4: I mean that, I think it's really observable. You see the.
Speaker 3: Degree of faith and religion decline as you go up
Speaker 3: in tax brackets. The more people achieve and the more
Speaker 3: that they're blessed with, the more they think it's them
Speaker 3: being special, and the less they think it's circumstance being
Speaker 3: for tuitous for their ability to, you know, do something special.
Speaker 2: Did he say, where's a new top Dog?
Speaker 1: I mean, goddamn, how many top dog do you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna get? You got easy, you got shug Nite, right,
Speaker 1: you got Tony Lange, you got top Dog?
Speaker 2: Got how many more all time.
Speaker 1: Great black executives and hip hop do you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna get?
Speaker 2: Like you just spoiled? Y'all just spoiled.
Speaker 1: You don't realize how great you know Dude Dog is,
Speaker 1: or how great should Not is, or how great Puff
Speaker 1: Daddy is.
Speaker 2: You take him for granted.
Speaker 1: You probably don't even deserve that type of excellence. And
Speaker 1: black men from where we come from, because the way
Speaker 1: you treat the ones we have now, it's no way
Speaker 1: you give top Dog the credit that he deserves. If
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna get another top dog, you don't
Speaker 1: think you gonna get another Jordan. You don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna get another Lebron, but you think you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a new top Dog. You lucky, you have Dude Dog
Speaker 1: from Bonnie on It. You lucky, you have top Dog Entertainment.
Speaker 1: He could have died, he could have been killed in
Speaker 1: a war, He could have went to prison for the
Speaker 1: rest of his life for the stuff that we had
Speaker 1: to do to be alive at this point, to live
Speaker 1: to to you know, the things we had to do
Speaker 1: to survive.
Speaker 2: You lucky you got him.
Speaker 1: And you don't even treat it like you lucky because
Speaker 1: you don't understand the nuance of exactly what what's going
Speaker 1: on here.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and.
Speaker 1: That's the truth. Like, you're lucky, you got a top
Speaker 1: Dog Entertainment. You're lucky, you have a brilliant mind like
Speaker 1: dude Dog to run it. Women are currently dominating hip hop?
Speaker 1: Why are there no West Coast women in hip hop?
Speaker 1: Shout out to Sherry. I think it's because culturally, like
Speaker 1: Peters saying, you have to figure out, you have to
Speaker 1: figure out culturally what you're gonna represent, and once you
Speaker 1: figure that out, you'll be good.
Speaker 4: And I think there's a little bit of resistance.
Speaker 3: At that level because la in California does have that
Speaker 3: kind of pimp glamorization mentality.
Speaker 4: There is gonna be a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of resistance to whole glamorization mentality to a degree, and
Speaker 3: some of that's gonna come out in some of that music.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, facts shout out to name brand,
Speaker 1: that's deep. What's the new culture? If the party is
Speaker 1: dead businessmen and ball players, there's no culture in that stuff. Again,
Speaker 1: that's a whole nother conversation that we have to tackle
Speaker 1: on another day. West Coast is the culture. The party
Speaker 1: is the outro of the current state of rap. We
Speaker 1: end no like the street urban culture is, you know,
Speaker 1: skaters or gang gang banging, like the way people dress
Speaker 1: and act and talk. A party was the way we
Speaker 1: kind of lived our lives. Like funk was what the
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop singing in a mask was built
Speaker 1: off of the music, and funk is.
Speaker 2: Rooted in the party. So the party it worked together.
Speaker 1: But without the party, the music we make it doesn't
Speaker 1: have a natural place to travel. It becomes independent. Like
Speaker 1: you gotta think, what's breaking music now is TikTok. The
Speaker 1: last big West Coast song was Soak City three ten
Speaker 1: Baby that got broke off social media. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't remember the last time I heard the song break
Speaker 1: in just la parties like they were everybody was doing
Speaker 1: the dance to Soak City.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's what broke that song that he has great record
Speaker 1: since then he asked records to me. The last two
Speaker 1: records three ten Baby put out are way better than
Speaker 1: Soak City. But because we don't have the infrastructure anymore
Speaker 1: to make records work, because the party is dying, which
Speaker 1: is we'll talk and tackle that on Friday. Cuz, like
Speaker 1: those songs are not getting as big as Silk City.
Speaker 2: It's just what it is. It's just fucked up, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's tough.
Speaker 1: Shout out to revenge. Yes we do, Yes we do.
Speaker 1: The get those glasses. What's the point of cherish and
Speaker 1: culture and hip hop and passing it down? That's what
Speaker 1: we're in it for. We have the new hip hop
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan Lebron did happen, and then Steph Curry came.
Speaker 1: But that's the point. That's why you only get one
Speaker 1: guy you don't get a thousand guys, and you're not
Speaker 1: going to get a Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: You lucky you got Kobe. That was the closest thing.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get a Lebron You're not going
Speaker 1: to get another Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: That's why you should appreciate them.
Speaker 3: An interesting thing about ain't number one, as there can
Speaker 3: only be one.
Speaker 2: Because it's number one.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Dick Griffy Recipes, to that legend Solar Records.
Speaker 2: Go do your homework.
Speaker 1: Uh, Kamalia is amazing and she is doing incredible And
Speaker 1: it's funny because I want to have her on the
Speaker 1: pod because she was talking about two Pac must die.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna you know what, fuck I made a
Speaker 3: decision right now. I'm gonna find some Blazian looking chick
Speaker 3: from the valley who's got a lot of body. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say you look, your new rap name is sugar Baby.
Speaker 3: Here's the I will write the lyrics for you. Go
Speaker 3: dress fly ship, Go in there, say that, get in
Speaker 3: front of a camera, look that way, saying this piece
Speaker 3: of paper here that I wrote for you.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go make a goddamn record. That's what's gonna
Speaker 4: have to happen.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Don Dub, what's up, big dog, and
Speaker 1: thank you for that lunch bonus lunch. There is though
Speaker 1: TD for dough she nominated, but do she from Florida?
Speaker 1: And again that's that's top and and and moves and
Speaker 1: and and the homies going to work. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: get that often. That's not gonna happen. That's why you
Speaker 1: have to value what you have. Y'all gotta stop trying
Speaker 1: to move on to the next thing so easy and
Speaker 1: value what you have.
Speaker 2: Like that's the lack.
Speaker 1: Of gratuitous that's the lack of gratuit that like, you
Speaker 1: don't have a grateful attitude. Shut out to the name brand.
Speaker 1: Yeah night crying for sure. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you have to really understand the greatness you're witnessing.
Speaker 1: That was something I had to do though, So I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at you, uh revenge, I'm not upset like
Speaker 1: you have to learn like I I. It took like
Speaker 1: snoop with somebody perfect example. Before we get out of here,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna leave in five minutes, so we
Speaker 1: canna let y'all get back to work. I know you
Speaker 1: at your desk. You done finish eating your lunch. You're
Speaker 1: still watching your boss gonna walk by. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I ain't gonna get you in trouble.
Speaker 1: We gonna get yall five more minutes and then Friday
Speaker 1: we back discussing.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call Kendrick can see if he'll hop on
Speaker 1: the live. I don't think he will, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask him so we could talk about LA's party scene
Speaker 1: and how we saw it coming up. Gosh, what was
Speaker 1: my thought? What was I finna talk? Snoop Dogg said
Speaker 1: out to Evince k out is thirty seven. But you
Speaker 1: you're you're missing the greatness of Dojah Cat. Thojah Cat
Speaker 1: is happening right now. Thojah Cat is happening right now,
Speaker 1: So you're missing it.
Speaker 2: Stop.
Speaker 1: You know it's something new there too, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So again, so let me let me get
Speaker 1: this last point out. So I'm gonna tell you Snoop
Speaker 1: was the artist. Bro Ironically, this is crazy because again,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm finna go check out this record
Speaker 1: with them. Snoop was somebody I was always spoiled by
Speaker 1: I never tripped off Snoop as a rapper, not like
Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy his music, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and play his songs and you.
Speaker 2: Know all of that.
Speaker 1: Obviously I heard more Snoop Dogg music than anybody else,
Speaker 1: but I didn't really look at him like I looked
Speaker 1: at rappers from somewhere else because I didn't understand.
Speaker 2: What hip hop was. So again, all this Snoop.
Speaker 1: Dogg music I'm digesting, I would have never named Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg in my top three out of named ice Cube,
Speaker 1: who kind of seemed a little different, Jay Z and Scarface.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, the more I started to learn about hip hop
Speaker 1: and it being street urban culture, being in the Bronx
Speaker 1: with the legendary dudes from Spade couple real dope brothers
Speaker 1: I got to meet, and the Eric Bees and all
Speaker 1: of these legends, and they started to really help me
Speaker 1: understand what hip hop was. Everything that Snoop Dogg was
Speaker 1: started to shine brighter and brighter for me. Right, And
Speaker 1: I looked one day and after all this information, I
Speaker 1: looked and I was like, Oh, it's this motherfucker And
Speaker 1: if you really think about what hip hop is, that
Speaker 1: is what it is. He has never turned his back
Speaker 1: on the coaching. He never denounced where he came from,
Speaker 1: how he grew up, none of the above. That is
Speaker 1: what it is, Ice Tea. When you look at SVU,
Speaker 1: shout out to og. When you look up Low Nord
Speaker 1: SVU and they don't say Tracy Morrow, it don't say
Speaker 1: Tracy Morrow. It says Ice Tea. That's a thing for
Speaker 1: hip hop. When you see that screen, say ll COOLJ.
Speaker 1: Or when you look and you on ESPN, it says
Speaker 1: ice cubes like that is what they're doing for hip hop.
Speaker 3: Curtis fifty cent Jackson, he still holds it in there
Speaker 3: between the Curtis and Jackson.
Speaker 1: He trying, but it's you get what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's the shit. That's what this shit is about, showing
Speaker 1: people that come from these ghettos. Could he evolved to
Speaker 1: be regular, you know, incredible people in society. If the
Speaker 1: opportunity is presented and you watching him do that, you
Speaker 1: watching Ice Tea be a part of television history.
Speaker 2: You're watching him do it.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I was at that shit in Vegas.
Speaker 3: If it's like a libertarian thing with a bunch of
Speaker 3: business people to go up in song.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna get whatever you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: But it's like it's just called Freedom Fest in Las
Speaker 3: Vegas and Ice Teas up there working the crowd doing
Speaker 3: this interview.
Speaker 4: I was thirty years younger than the next youngest guy.
Speaker 4: It was just like.
Speaker 3: Twelve hundred, like sixty five year old white people who
Speaker 3: are like between libertarian and Republican, just clapping and laughing
Speaker 3: their asses off at every fucking hanging on every syllable
Speaker 3: this guy says for like thirty minutes in a row.
Speaker 3: Was unbelievable and he and he was real as fuck.
Speaker 3: He didn't tailor anything to that audience, not.
Speaker 2: A fucking.
Speaker 4: Not a fucking word.
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Speaker 1: I heeart feel mean, this has been an amazing conversation. Friday,
Speaker 1: we will be back to discuss why the party died. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to die for making the song Watch the
Speaker 1: Party Die, and that also to some degree, is why
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop feels like it's dying. So we'll
Speaker 1: be back here Friday at noon. Y'all be here. Tell
Speaker 1: a friend to tell a friend. I'm gonna text Katot
Speaker 1: and see if I can get him to come on here.
Speaker 1: He may come, he may not. You just never know
Speaker 1: what the hommy. But we can really talk about out
Speaker 1: this and get into it. It's a really great conversation.
Speaker 1: So Friday will be here at noon. I'll let y'all know.
Speaker 1: Also what I think I Snoop album. I'm for to
Speaker 1: go listen to that, so I'll let y'all know what
Speaker 1: I think of Missionary. We come back on Friday. So
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