Speaker 1: My name is Clay Neukleman.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Welcome to ad to Oklahoma. That's right, you know what
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Speaker 2: is an unusual render. We're in the field and where
Speaker 2: are we at?
Speaker 3: Justin aight, Oklahoma, the Oklahoma Muleshell.
Speaker 1: To Mule Sale. Yes, sir, So, I've got to my left.
Speaker 2: Right here, I've got Justin Kelso, who's whose family has
Speaker 2: been involved in this mule sale since the beginning. Y'all
Speaker 2: say yes. And then to your left is Max Bishop.
Speaker 2: I just met today, but I've known about you for
Speaker 2: years from Arkansas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're still trying to sign if it's infamous or famous,
Speaker 4: we're not sure. Definite influence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Justin tell us what we're watching. So if
Speaker 2: you're watching on YouTube, you're gonna see you're gonna see
Speaker 2: us talking about. You're also going to see an arena
Speaker 2: with some mules out there.
Speaker 1: Tell us what this is yesterday, what this is?
Speaker 4: We started, We started a catalog or a consignment portion
Speaker 4: of this sale, so you can have a preview of
Speaker 4: the mules at home. That's at least that those are
Speaker 4: coming here. Plus whatever else is checked in is open
Speaker 4: consignment after these. And when we've done that, we decided
Speaker 4: these mules, if you're gonna come here expecting to get
Speaker 4: more money, instead of ragging on how broke the r list,
Speaker 4: show how broke they are. So we very simple trail course,
Speaker 4: got a few obstacles, nothing, nothing too scary, nothing too serious.
Speaker 4: Every year we had or take away something. It's just
Speaker 4: to show how broke your mule is. I mean it
Speaker 4: is sitting and everything you encounter. I mean, we've got
Speaker 4: pool noodles here. I've been riding a lot in the
Speaker 4: back country and the trail riding, I've never encountered to
Speaker 4: pull the noodle away from that.
Speaker 2: What they've got is they've got a little a little
Speaker 2: rack with pool noodles hanging down from it on strings,
Speaker 2: and you ride your mule through the pool noodles. And
Speaker 2: if you've ever been around equan animals, you know that
Speaker 2: they're they're prone to be scared of us about anything.
Speaker 4: And while this is a judged course, we give a
Speaker 4: prize to the winners and that kind of thing, it's
Speaker 4: not so much to when the trail course is to
Speaker 4: sell your mule.
Speaker 1: And so today's Thursday, A look.
Speaker 5: At this one here, that's coal trains. Now he's gonna
Speaker 5: have a really quality mealtl.
Speaker 1: Your mic up a little bit mix. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's coltrain mule. Come now, see like it's
Speaker 5: a little thing. But so when you go down there
Speaker 5: and you get mounted on, well he stood on that block,
Speaker 5: snapped his fingers, that muil side passed over and picked
Speaker 5: him up. So what that tells us is, though not
Speaker 5: only is this mule gentleman, but like he's actually taken
Speaker 5: tom to actually trained this mual. He's invested some times,
Speaker 5: he raised it. It's out of his own stock.
Speaker 4: So this is.
Speaker 5: Gonna be one of the things. You know, he's cold
Speaker 5: trained mules, he's well known. And so he's showing what
Speaker 5: he's spent like probably a year on this meal doing
Speaker 5: to bring to this cell to get the maximum amount
Speaker 5: of money.
Speaker 3: And so that's.
Speaker 2: Course, today's Thursday, Saturday is the sale. So Saturday there's
Speaker 2: a live auction and we've we've already talked about that
Speaker 2: on some on the past Baggaries podcast. But but so
Speaker 2: this guy right here, where's he from in northern Missouri?
Speaker 4: I forget exactly what he's up around Columbia. I think
Speaker 4: in that area. Kevin cole Trane. His wife is Brandy.
Speaker 4: They've been coming here for a while and they go
Speaker 4: to all the other sales too, and they'll have two
Speaker 4: three and never sail. Like Max said, ninety percent of
Speaker 4: them they raised. They've known these mules all that. They
Speaker 4: don't they like I sell off my form. They generally
Speaker 4: don't like. As a matter of fact, I just had
Speaker 4: some people come buy some mules from me. They tried
Speaker 4: to buy these mules from him last week and he
Speaker 4: wouldn't tell them me, saying they're already in sell, they're consigned,
Speaker 4: we can't sell them. And he actually told them to
Speaker 4: come down there and see what I had. So he
Speaker 4: don't want to deal with the public, and so he
Speaker 4: can consign them to the kelso Sell and the Kelselos
Speaker 4: are gonna market them nationally.
Speaker 5: They're gonna have an internet, you know, so you people
Speaker 5: are gonna be here, but it's also on the internet.
Speaker 5: And so this guy can get the maximum amount of
Speaker 5: money for his mule without having to deal with the public.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a huge advantage of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, Max, tell me tell everybody what you do,
Speaker 2: what you're.
Speaker 3: I deal with the public?
Speaker 2: Well, no, but I mean you're a mule You're you're
Speaker 2: you're a mule man. You sell mules for a living
Speaker 2: and have for a long time.
Speaker 5: Well, the easy ones. Or if I buy this mule
Speaker 5: and all I have to do is to be able
Speaker 5: to outmarket Coltrane, he's already.
Speaker 3: Done all the work.
Speaker 1: You're gonna buy at his top.
Speaker 5: But then I'm going to out market him well because
Speaker 5: he don't want to deal with the public.
Speaker 4: And I will know that MAT's supposed likely has customers
Speaker 4: he sold were his mules to before. Yes, I phone, Hey,
Speaker 4: I got another co train mule for you, exactly the
Speaker 4: mule sold I.
Speaker 3: Mean over a phone call.
Speaker 4: It probably gets it done right away, right if the
Speaker 4: mule fits what the guys are woman's looking for.
Speaker 5: So we I have mules that's never been rolled before,
Speaker 5: and we'll get them we'll have to do the full process.
Speaker 5: But you're talking about months of time of training, and
Speaker 5: then you've got I've got mules that I'll get that
Speaker 5: maybe they've let it get buddy sour and maybe it
Speaker 5: has something problem. We'll have to fix a specific problem
Speaker 5: and then we can sell it. Sometimes we buy the
Speaker 5: mules from the Amish, and again they've done a lot
Speaker 5: of the work. They just don't have Facebook, so we
Speaker 5: can we can out market them. So I do everything
Speaker 5: from marketing them to just the full on training them
Speaker 5: to fix the problems. But like in this case that
Speaker 5: this celle while I'm here, like Jody and Justin's and
Speaker 5: Johnny sell is that there will be quality mules like
Speaker 5: col trains that he won't sell you off the forum
Speaker 5: and I can come here and buy them and then
Speaker 5: I can market them.
Speaker 3: And put the work.
Speaker 4: In the same instance, on the flip side of what
Speaker 4: Kevin doesn't want to deal with the public, you have
Speaker 4: people wanting to buy meals that don't want to come
Speaker 4: to the auction. They want to deal with Max or
Speaker 4: Justin or Jodi or Johnny call whatever the case may be. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they don't want to they don't want the fast thinking
Speaker 4: auction style, so Max can They're gonna pay Max at premium.
Speaker 5: They know they're paying him a premium, okay, and they
Speaker 5: can come to they can ride it two or three days,
Speaker 5: whatever they want to do. I got really good trails
Speaker 5: in my house. There's twenty one thousand acres right across
Speaker 5: the road from me, and they instead of saying they
Speaker 5: got two minutes to bid, they can come down there
Speaker 5: and they can ride it. Make sure this mule likes them,
Speaker 5: it fits them, and that they can do.
Speaker 1: What do you call yourself if somebody says, what do you.
Speaker 3: Do for a list MYX Special Meal company?
Speaker 1: Well, but I mean, like like an elevator pitch. Would
Speaker 1: you say you're a mule trader? Would you say you're
Speaker 1: mual salesman.
Speaker 2: Would you say, well, there's other people like you in
Speaker 2: the country that you buy and sell mules.
Speaker 3: Well, my deal was I used to train mules and
Speaker 3: horses for the public. That's all I did. So I
Speaker 3: was a trainer.
Speaker 5: But then you got to deal with these people don't ride,
Speaker 5: they're not putting their time in, they're not investing in theirself.
Speaker 5: So you'll get their mule trained or their horse training,
Speaker 5: and then they still suck it riding, and so then
Speaker 5: they're blaming you, and then they want a video every
Speaker 5: day and you're on their time schedule, and like what
Speaker 5: how's my mule doing? And they wanted it all done
Speaker 5: in thirty days. Well, when I finally had enough money
Speaker 5: and stuff set up where I could just I can
Speaker 5: pick out the quality mules that I want, I know what,
Speaker 5: it's a good mule. I can pick out the ones
Speaker 5: that I want to train, I want to work with
Speaker 5: on my time and my schedule, and then sell it.
Speaker 5: And so like I was charging them one thousand dollars
Speaker 5: a month to train a mule. Well I can buy
Speaker 5: a mule here for six thousand or seven thousand dollars
Speaker 5: and ride it two weeks and make eight thousand dollars
Speaker 5: and not get buck thrown or kicked because it was
Speaker 5: already a nice mule.
Speaker 4: So so you just said something. I did ride it
Speaker 4: a lot for the public. But some you know, you
Speaker 4: need a little extra cash, so have a little extra time.
Speaker 4: Somebody got a coat, one broke out or something. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I ride it.
Speaker 3: I quit doing it now, And I wouldn't tell aybody.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 4: I just kept raising my price till they stopped paying me.
Speaker 4: But the problem was, you, like what Matt's saying, You
Speaker 4: ride something thirty days for them, get doing every and
Speaker 4: it may take me forty five days to get that
Speaker 4: thirty days of riding in. But ye, what I would
Speaker 4: do is I would say, it may take me forty
Speaker 4: five days to get your thirty days of riding in,
Speaker 4: but it's gonna do this, this, and this when I'm done,
Speaker 4: it's gonna cost you this this money.
Speaker 3: Welly, get it home. They turn it out for three months.
Speaker 1: Don't ride it, don't ride it, don't touch it, yeah,
Speaker 1: feed it, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then call me, Hey, this ain't bumped me off? Well,
Speaker 3: what have you done as the first time I wrote it?
Speaker 4: Sorry? Yeah, And it just gets so disgusted with it
Speaker 4: that I mean, there was the last horse I rode
Speaker 4: for the public, wasn't even broke to lee still running
Speaker 4: with its mother's two years old two year old past
Speaker 4: like two and a half years old, not being broke
Speaker 4: to lead or anything. I get this thing right in
Speaker 4: and never done thing with me. My wife calls me
Speaker 4: because it come to find out it was her cousin's
Speaker 4: husband's family that owned the horse, and all her uncles
Speaker 4: and brother. He bucked everybody off. She says, you gonna
Speaker 4: write USA. No, it never booked with me. Why would
Speaker 4: I go try to prove myself on something of already
Speaker 4: done and they waited a year to write it. That's
Speaker 4: not my fault, that's their fault. So I would I
Speaker 4: wouldn't have got only one time for six hunderd at that.
Speaker 2: Point, Max, I saw you something writing something down.
Speaker 1: Do you see something you liked out there?
Speaker 5: Well, the one that the Wild Bunch had you could
Speaker 5: tell was doing pretty good. He was one he one
Speaker 5: hand rained it through the whole deal. So the course,
Speaker 5: so like when he went through the everything like that,
Speaker 5: he didn't have to use two hands. So and it's
Speaker 5: comously got a handle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we got interrupted by technical issues.
Speaker 4: But that was Mark Balley Wild the Wild Bunch horse
Speaker 4: Meal Company, and they helped the us Kelso's put to sell.
Speaker 3: On okay, and uh, but they he's a hand.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just there's no other way to say it.
Speaker 4: He yeah, very good roper. He's just a cowboy. And
Speaker 4: when I say kelboy, I'm not talking about this rough browdy.
Speaker 4: He knows what he's doing. He knows he's a trainer,
Speaker 4: he's a roper, he's he's the whole package, and mat
Speaker 4: say anything he's had very long. If he said it
Speaker 4: very long and worked it very long, it's it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of me. He was talking earlier. Don't waste your
Speaker 4: time on the sorry ones. If that thing's not responding
Speaker 4: and not going to respond to stuff, why I waste
Speaker 4: your time? Go get you something better. And so if
Speaker 4: he's spending very much time on one, it's it's all right.
Speaker 3: And then vice versa with this one. So you got
Speaker 3: this one here.
Speaker 5: It's got no business mouth, so you know it's got
Speaker 5: a hacking more gadget type thing, so you know it's
Speaker 5: probably sleaning its head. And then you know, like he
Speaker 5: couldn't do this obstacle here, he can't do that on
Speaker 5: obstacle there. He went around out of obstacle there. So
Speaker 5: you know, you've got a mule that's basic basic. You know,
Speaker 5: it's not It didn't buck him, it didn't hurt him.
Speaker 5: But there's a place for this mule. But it's just
Speaker 5: not gonna be it's not going to from the high dollar.
Speaker 2: Knowing it's not gonna be a soap propers, what do
Speaker 2: what would you say for somebody that was wanting to
Speaker 2: get their first animal. I mean, I talk to a
Speaker 2: lot of people that are like I've been around Equon
Speaker 2: animals some but never owned one, and they want to mule.
Speaker 4: The first thing safe, safe disposition. And if you've never
Speaker 4: owned one, don't come to the doustion by one. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 4: go spend the money to go to somebody's house and
Speaker 4: some maady like Max or or us. I mean, we
Speaker 4: got to there at our house, kelsehold meals dot com
Speaker 4: come to our house. Uh, go find you somebody you trust,
Speaker 4: go to their house, spend a week there if you
Speaker 4: need to. If you're a good person and you're willing
Speaker 4: to work, most most sellers will work with you on
Speaker 4: something like that. I'm uncomfortable. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: Can I come out and try this mule for so
Speaker 4: long and ride with the person that owns it, that
Speaker 4: knows the buttons, knows the issues, knowse devices. Because like
Speaker 4: we talked about in the other podcast, you're dealing with
Speaker 4: something that God gives its own mind to. It's got
Speaker 4: its own fears, its own is not a four wheeler,
Speaker 4: that's right, so so uh go spend some time, and
Speaker 4: if you know what you're doing, maybe you don't need that.
Speaker 4: But but but when you're buying an animal and you
Speaker 4: don't know what you're doing, get some help.
Speaker 3: Don't be too proud to ask for help.
Speaker 1: Now what are you seeing in this mule? Max? Pretty basic?
Speaker 3: You got the same thing here you've got you've got
Speaker 3: a hack a more so you know he's not.
Speaker 1: That's the style of bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing nothing, No, it's just on his nose
Speaker 5: clamping down. But you see, as soon as he picks
Speaker 5: the reins up, the thing immediately goes looking up in
Speaker 5: the air. See how so everything so you've got no
Speaker 5: control over it to a degree.
Speaker 3: Now I want to add to what you're sent here
Speaker 3: just a little bit. Max.
Speaker 4: There's a guy he's dead now from southwest New Mexico
Speaker 4: or southeast. See how southwest is the HeLa Uh his
Speaker 4: name just tobaty me Max Harsha. Yeah, and he had
Speaker 4: a combination bit with a nose band. Myself, I don't
Speaker 4: like him.
Speaker 3: That's just me.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a some peoples. It is kind of
Speaker 4: GIMMI don't get me wrong. When the mule responds that
Speaker 4: Max harsh bit. Well, it responds real well, but it's
Speaker 4: not a be all end all bits are not are
Speaker 4: so different than the other piece of equipment you're gonna use.
Speaker 4: But there are certain people get hung up on something
Speaker 4: that worked and to keep using it. Once again, we're
Speaker 4: dealing with the individual. You're not dealing with a full
Speaker 4: hitter that's mass produced. And there are things just to like,
Speaker 4: maybe this mule will ride with a bit maybe maybe
Speaker 4: maybe maybe not. We don't know. I mean we're looking
Speaker 4: at the first time I've seen the mule, so I
Speaker 4: don't know. But also the flips and I'm not arguing
Speaker 4: Max on what he's saying, but the flip side, this
Speaker 4: guy maybe he rides everything with a hack.
Speaker 5: More, right, So you don't so you're trying to we
Speaker 5: have to try to decide is it the mule or
Speaker 5: is it the rider?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, And we got to watch the response and like.
Speaker 1: Whether that's a big, pretty mule.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But and the mule trotted down in a real
Speaker 5: straight line like you sa you know, you can tell it,
Speaker 5: like it's probably a good sound and all that, and
Speaker 5: it's trotd what he's gonna do, And then it started
Speaker 5: acting up with the.
Speaker 4: I noticed, well when he come out here, he kind
Speaker 4: of cut kind of quick right here when he turned,
Speaker 4: and not a not a I wouldn't call the mule
Speaker 4: fly to your unsafe nothing like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean what I've seen looks safe, but I could
Speaker 4: tell that you had to. That was a mule that
Speaker 4: if if that had been a greenhorn riding his fuel
Speaker 4: right here when he comes to this obstacle, these this
Speaker 4: l right here they had back through. If I had
Speaker 4: been and greenrn, that mule would have would have made
Speaker 4: some more steps. So look to me, that guy knew
Speaker 4: the mule was gonna spook just a little bit. Now
Speaker 4: this is Toddy John from Iowa. Really good hand. I've
Speaker 4: known Todd for thirty years. He'll have some pretty nice mules.
Speaker 1: Now what's he done is he shaved that mule's head?
Speaker 4: All right? That's this goes back.
Speaker 2: So we're looking at a meal that there's a distinct line,
Speaker 2: looks like it's.
Speaker 3: His head's been clipped and clipped pair.
Speaker 4: They're not sheepshar, but there are same different ways with
Speaker 4: the same styles as sheep shears.
Speaker 1: Is that just a stylistic thing for showing that started?
Speaker 4: That started on draft mule coats, they would share their
Speaker 4: head because as a donkey or jack has has a
Speaker 4: real heavy eyebrow, boned eyebrows. And so you take a
Speaker 4: coat that maybe just a little bit, we call it
Speaker 4: being rough over the eyes, a little full over the eyes.
Speaker 4: We take a coat's got hair on it, baby hair
Speaker 4: on it, four inches long, and it's sticking out, well,
Speaker 4: that hair like a hood of her.
Speaker 3: I mean, and it really makes them. No, that just
Speaker 3: shows how clean the mule's head is.
Speaker 1: I see, it's kind of showing it.
Speaker 4: And it's went from there. I hate having right mules hit.
Speaker 4: I hate it. However, some mules, why I stop there.
Speaker 4: If you want to do that body clip the thing,
Speaker 4: which I totally against but in my opinion, but it does.
Speaker 4: I mean, it makes her if you got if you
Speaker 4: get it, she's tight haired. No, she didn't need it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, some people just grew up seeing it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, so you guys are you're looking at a lot
Speaker 2: of different stuff. Max, You're looking at the tack. You're
Speaker 2: trying to discern.
Speaker 5: You see how well that's the thing in this case,
Speaker 5: here is how it's gaping his mouth open and pull
Speaker 5: them back. But we know for a fact that that
Speaker 5: is a good runner. Say, like on the other one,
Speaker 5: we were like, well, we don't know if it's this
Speaker 5: this mule or is it this guy Because we don't
Speaker 5: know the guy. We know that if that mule won't
Speaker 5: back up with his head down and collected, it ain't
Speaker 5: his fault.
Speaker 4: Because you know, that's why me and we was talking
Speaker 4: about earlier in another podcast about him.
Speaker 1: Oh he through the pull noodles.
Speaker 3: Right, but he's done. He done what he should do
Speaker 3: around him.
Speaker 2: Now, what why is he selling this mule? This is
Speaker 2: a good mule trainer.
Speaker 3: He yeah, he sells it.
Speaker 5: If I had to guess, let's see here, If I
Speaker 5: had to guess, it's probably one that he's riding for
Speaker 5: somebody else to say, it's his charity.
Speaker 1: So Max is looking in the catalog.
Speaker 4: He don't he works instruction, but he'll ride a few
Speaker 4: mules with the evening and go to some sales.
Speaker 2: So you might buy that meal, Max and take it
Speaker 2: home and ride it for sixty days and really tune
Speaker 2: it up. And it's a sharp looking mule, and I
Speaker 2: mean it needs a little more.
Speaker 4: Once all right, Yeah, but once again, maybe the same situation.
Speaker 4: Even though Todd's a good hand. Maybe Max has got
Speaker 4: a bit to fits that mule better. He may and
Speaker 4: and me personally, I think every ride mule should be
Speaker 4: born with a cavasall. Yes, cavasol is a nose band
Speaker 4: with a headstall on it. Just a simple and it
Speaker 4: keeps from gapping mouth open. In what they're doing. They
Speaker 4: gat that mouth open. They're trying to get away from
Speaker 4: the bed. Now you got if you've got one on,
Speaker 4: you need smart enough not to have too much bit
Speaker 4: in your mouth, you know what I'm saying, because then
Speaker 4: you're fighting against one another.
Speaker 3: But every mule should be born with the cavsal.
Speaker 2: Now this this is a that's a flashy meal. What's
Speaker 2: a flashy mual?
Speaker 4: Max?
Speaker 1: When people say that.
Speaker 5: It's got chrome on it, like that color or really good,
Speaker 5: but the stocking legs that that mule's got some cast.
Speaker 2: Is that going to be a good selling mule because
Speaker 2: of the way it looks.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't it has it doesn't have the confirmation.
Speaker 1: Oh does it not?
Speaker 3: No, I'm sitting here with two guys that lot flashy mules.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm a sorrowing day guy. And what MAATX means here
Speaker 4: this mule, she's well made. She's not thick made though,
Speaker 4: I mean she's she's got a well rounded hip.
Speaker 2: Now what what consequences one not being thick and not
Speaker 2: having a lot of muscle?
Speaker 1: I mean, is that meal not going to be?
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like in the on a trail ride,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna know the difference between that one and
Speaker 2: one that weighs two hundred more pounds?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 3: Depends on what you know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you're used to take your four hitners.
Speaker 4: If you know this fore hitterer will do more. But
Speaker 4: you always grew up on this smaller foreheader that you
Speaker 4: always able to get done what you want to done.
Speaker 4: That beer folder may be intimidating you, you see what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Yeah, but a guy that knows the difference
Speaker 4: of what job application goes or pick up? All right,
Speaker 4: you grew up you're having a half ton truck all
Speaker 4: your life. You only have a bunpet pull trailer or
Speaker 4: boat whatever the case may be. This does what I
Speaker 4: want to do? Yeah, tase man Max, he's got a
Speaker 4: goosetack trauler. He's got to go down the road with
Speaker 4: eight to ten mules in it. That half ton truck
Speaker 4: is no good to him. So if you're used to
Speaker 4: a mule that's got a more body, a little more
Speaker 4: size to it.
Speaker 1: And maybe do you think that's a young mule ten
Speaker 1: years old? Ten years old, so that mules fro it's done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna buy that mule max. I mean, i'd probably
Speaker 1: we're gonna come out after the same out.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't been on this field because like when it's
Speaker 5: going Monday, it is doing the obstacles. He is writing
Speaker 5: it one handed for the majority of everything. It's got
Speaker 5: floppy years, which means it's relaxed its confidence of what
Speaker 5: it's doing. I do have a lot of people that
Speaker 5: just want a smaller meal. It's they're just TROI run.
Speaker 5: They're not gonna rope, they're not going to go to
Speaker 5: the mountains. They're you know, an older couple whatever. They're
Speaker 5: just want something small. And then a lot of people
Speaker 5: have bad hips or whatever. They don't want to be
Speaker 5: spread out with something real. I don't like that near
Speaker 5: build that a frame. So there are clients and like
Speaker 5: I said, you say, when he's pulling his.
Speaker 1: Tail and doing around like it's just too small.
Speaker 3: It's head. It's for a personal meal.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna say I sell more from fourteen to
Speaker 5: fourteen three to older people than I do any other thing.
Speaker 5: I like a sixteen hand meal looks like a head
Speaker 5: of horse. They don't sell that well. But it goes
Speaker 5: back to what we said about earlier. Our clientle. Clientele
Speaker 5: has gotten older.
Speaker 1: Next, you mind pulling up that mike a little bit.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry our clientele has gotten older, more crippled. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm broke up at fifty years old. It's been if
Speaker 4: I'm really fifty one, I got to knees their junk
Speaker 4: or help this junker right arm is.
Speaker 1: Junk because of h riding all those bad mules.
Speaker 3: Bad decisions a lot of times.
Speaker 4: But but that small us whole we was talking about earlier,
Speaker 4: This older woman that doesn't care like match's saying. She
Speaker 4: wants something that's safe, and she lots looks of it.
Speaker 4: That little me right, there's got some retail to it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this mule here, I mean, yeah, mules got its snose
Speaker 4: up a little bit, but it's responsive that see that
Speaker 4: if I was buying this meal, it's stepping out of them.
Speaker 4: That wouldn't affect me. Mules trying. You know, it's not
Speaker 4: it's not fighting. He's not doing exactly what he asked.
Speaker 4: But the mull still not a it's not an idiot.
Speaker 4: But once again see it. No, it's coming up like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that wants to get out of it hates this. Serena
Speaker 4: guarantee it. M also, though, might be going towards them
Speaker 4: littles too. I just thought of that because going away
Speaker 4: the mules relaxed. I remember I was talking about earlier
Speaker 4: about mule seeing something hundred yards out. I guarant what
Speaker 4: you said. You were picking his head up. Yeah, going
Speaker 4: towards them noodles. You think it want to go through
Speaker 4: them noodles?
Speaker 3: Am? I ask?
Speaker 1: How many meals did you buy here last year? Eighteen
Speaker 1: eighteen meals in the fall?
Speaker 3: In the fall, yeah, about the same in the spring.
Speaker 3: I was wrong.
Speaker 2: How how fast will you turn those over?
Speaker 5: Say?
Speaker 1: Okay, I would take that out if.
Speaker 4: You there's old saying the fox don't tell the hounds
Speaker 4: all the hide notes here you go.
Speaker 3: I was wrong. You went through the noodles and then
Speaker 3: pretty well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very well, I mean didn't hesitate, But but the
Speaker 4: noodles to me is the same thing as a blue tarp,
Speaker 4: whether it's over them or under them. You spend enough time,
Speaker 4: they'll do it. That the noodles to me, the noodles
Speaker 4: on a three year old had a response to it's
Speaker 4: one thing a ten year old. It doesn't mean it
Speaker 4: means they're going to do They're not going to do it.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that mules not safe or well broke.
Speaker 4: To my opinion, that may be the one thing that
Speaker 4: wouldn't do. Maybe does everything else we've discussed taking the
Speaker 4: noodles plumb out.
Speaker 3: I hate them noodles.
Speaker 1: Hey, now justin here's the mule.
Speaker 4: You might like.
Speaker 1: This is a solid colored dark bay or black. I
Speaker 1: can't tell.
Speaker 2: Got a yeah, Yeah, it's a that's a pretty nice mule,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah? Safe. I'm gonna say this mule, yes, it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: It's a be a older me. You, I'd say, no
Speaker 4: one who's who owns it? An olderman? You'll be a
Speaker 4: safe le thirteen years old? What it says thirteen?
Speaker 1: What's the prime age?
Speaker 3: Max?
Speaker 5: To sell at six to ten? Ten to twelve would
Speaker 5: be better than four to six, and as a horse
Speaker 5: will four to six. Yes, that's why I was talking
Speaker 5: about earlier. It is so different than it was twenty
Speaker 5: years ago, thirty years ago. If that mule got over
Speaker 5: a mule horse, the one got over seven eight years old.
Speaker 5: If it's over eight, you didn't retail it.
Speaker 1: People didn't want to know.
Speaker 2: But I mean, a mule is coming into his prime
Speaker 2: when he's ten, Is that about right?
Speaker 4: A don horse mule, if he's got stripes and tiger
Speaker 4: stripes on her legs, they should be born there six
Speaker 4: or so. They're kind of like a blue hitter dog
Speaker 4: could be the best one you ever had. However, it
Speaker 4: takes a little water mature and that they are tough.
Speaker 1: I like this mule.
Speaker 4: This mule is gonna be just what I've seen, is
Speaker 4: gonna be a very safe from you. It's gonna be
Speaker 4: for that. This mualle here is the one that for
Speaker 4: the wife does all the riding, and she wants to
Speaker 4: buy her husband mule just to go with her when
Speaker 4: he don't ride that much.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: I used to have people that call me, he said, listen,
Speaker 4: I've got a mule. My husband will ride with me,
Speaker 4: but his mule can't be as pretty as mine. And
Speaker 4: I would buy these.
Speaker 2: Beig really oh, all the time, And I made lots
Speaker 2: of money off rich women that their husband went ride
Speaker 2: with them to please them, to be part of the lot.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not knocking what they were doing, but
Speaker 4: you could retail them. People are like, my husband cannot
Speaker 4: have as nice of mules I got.
Speaker 5: I literally just did a video on that. It's like
Speaker 5: kept going viral right now about husband safe mules, husband
Speaker 5: safe men.
Speaker 4: Remember what someone earth where the women are leading on
Speaker 4: these animals dogs. I mean the women are leading on
Speaker 4: the animals because you know these men are. I mean,
Speaker 4: let's face the way economy or whatever you want, the
Speaker 4: way the lifestyles went has changed the last forty fifty years.
Speaker 4: You have to work so much your hobbies. You don't
Speaker 4: have hobbies anymore.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: You chase your kids, you know this?
Speaker 1: Would you would you say you're.
Speaker 2: Marketing as much to women as men.
Speaker 3: More than women. The women are controlling the mule work.
Speaker 3: It really mostly unless it's a roping mule or something
Speaker 3: like that. You get us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wagon mules, so men because all the wagon team
Speaker 4: you just sit there in that wagon. You put your
Speaker 4: cooler of whatever beverages you prefer, a lot of these
Speaker 4: a lot of these wagons now cookers on the of them.
Speaker 4: This guy or I'm not saying women, don't worry. That's
Speaker 4: what I mean by this. This guy's been stretched out
Speaker 4: for five days. He will spend his Saturday relaxing. So
Speaker 4: he hook his team up. He's got his cooker on
Speaker 4: the back, got his cooler full of whatever beverage. Adult
Speaker 4: or not an adult. You want your cooter and you
Speaker 4: sit back and hold a pair of lines and go
Speaker 4: drive around back roads all day with your mules, with
Speaker 4: your mules, and just enjoy the day's rollers.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're listening to this on audio,
Speaker 2: you probably would do better. Let's watching this on YouTube
Speaker 2: because we're we're again, we're we're.
Speaker 1: Here at the catalog the cattle.
Speaker 2: These are the catalog mules, which means mules that have
Speaker 2: been pre registered for the sale in two days or
Speaker 2: watching them go through the trail course.
Speaker 3: Now I tee you here, now this mule, hear anybody
Speaker 3: can write it based on just the rider. She can't
Speaker 3: write a link.
Speaker 1: Now, is that your daughter?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 1: Now, that's not what I heard all day. This girl
Speaker 1: is a she's as good as they cut.
Speaker 3: Yes, if you see a kill it on there.
Speaker 4: She's kind of some of these meals she could use
Speaker 4: some her finding. She's pretty tough.
Speaker 5: And we were at a mule sell here and I
Speaker 5: don't want to I don't want to ruin his story,
Speaker 5: but they paid her twenty bucks or whatever to ride
Speaker 5: a mule through the cell. This mule kicked her and
Speaker 5: burst her appendix or was the last ready to deliver,
Speaker 5: last ready to deliver? She still rolled that meal through
Speaker 5: that cell, got that meal sold, then went to the hospital.
Speaker 4: She's tough.
Speaker 1: Wow, don't girl how old she.
Speaker 4: She's twenty two, twenty three as fall She's tough.
Speaker 1: Man. That's a nice looking mual. So this is what
Speaker 1: do you call that?
Speaker 3: That's a that's a du tire strap leads.
Speaker 4: Now what makes that the it's it's the donkey.
Speaker 3: The daddy put most of that on him.
Speaker 2: So what typically if you saw that, you know what
Speaker 2: kind of jack and what kind of mare that came
Speaker 2: out of?
Speaker 4: No, but I know that's a tough sung gun. That
Speaker 4: would be the toughest meal you step on. You will
Speaker 4: not kill that meal?
Speaker 3: Right? What is that up numberstem here? It's uh Jase
Speaker 3: Curtis's maybe.
Speaker 2: So we're looking at a tall mule and Justin's daughter
Speaker 2: there is riding it. I'd say it's a putting over
Speaker 2: fifteen hands.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's fifteen to one at least, yeah, maybe two.
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a palomino color.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's like he's got he's got black yeah,
Speaker 4: black man and tail.
Speaker 2: It's like the color of coffee if you poured quite
Speaker 2: a bit of creamer in it.
Speaker 4: Yes, and he's got the black legs up to his
Speaker 4: to his pastons, but her passions to his.
Speaker 3: Knees for a butt skin be black all.
Speaker 4: The way up. He's got the stripes.
Speaker 3: So is that your mule, No, sir, she's just riding
Speaker 3: through for somebody.
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be a high dollar mule. It's
Speaker 1: just pretty lady.
Speaker 4: He's laid back, he's gentle, uh, not overly dolgeable.
Speaker 3: I don't think you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But and though, well she got him through the pull noodles, okay,
Speaker 4: I mean he's safe as they come, and he's ride
Speaker 4: between I don't old to.
Speaker 3: See four year old.
Speaker 1: Oh he's just I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's that one. I think it is
Speaker 3: don't have a color on her for some reason.
Speaker 2: I mean, that mule has done everything. It's it's walked over.
Speaker 2: So the trail course, forgive us. We just jumped right
Speaker 2: into it because the mules were coming. But the trail
Speaker 2: course basically involves the mules riding around a dirt arena,
Speaker 2: jumping over a small log, and then they come and
Speaker 2: have to go through basically some landscape landscape timbers that
Speaker 2: are laid out that make a little l shape, and you.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to back through that back and turn back.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to make the mule go and reverse ye,
Speaker 2: and all this is just about proving how much control
Speaker 2: the rider has over the mule willing and they're.
Speaker 4: Not a force control. That mule does it willingly because
Speaker 4: it's been trained properly.
Speaker 2: And then there's there's two fifty five gallon drums out here,
Speaker 2: and there's a there's a cooler on top of the
Speaker 2: fifty five gallon drums, like a like.
Speaker 3: A collapsible cooler.
Speaker 1: Call cooler like a yeah, like a collapsible cooler.
Speaker 2: And the guys ride up to the fifty five gallon
Speaker 2: drum with a cooler and reach in and get a
Speaker 2: water bottle. And if you can like get your mule,
Speaker 2: have enough control over your meal to pull it up
Speaker 2: right to that cooler and reach in and get it
Speaker 2: off of the meal like you're doing something.
Speaker 3: Yep, and take it around a barrel, come and put
Speaker 3: it back in.
Speaker 2: Take it around the other barrel, and then you ride
Speaker 2: through the pool noodles, which we've already described this little
Speaker 2: arch with pull noodles, and then there's a wooden bridge
Speaker 2: made of two before's and two of sixes.
Speaker 4: Yep, it's gonna be pretty nice meal right here. This
Speaker 4: new here will be when you're I almost say one
Speaker 4: of the top five, would you max.
Speaker 3: See say, and it's backing up, it's putting its head down.
Speaker 3: It's collected where I was talking about earlier about time
Speaker 3: one's head down.
Speaker 1: Would you call this a bay?
Speaker 6: Black bay brown, but not a bay, not a bu bay.
Speaker 6: Basically he was backing on his head down to his chest.
Speaker 6: That's what you're That's what the others are supposed to
Speaker 6: be doing. Yeah, and you're seeing them. We get on
Speaker 6: high headed and so that's what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 1: So this is probably fourteen to two.
Speaker 3: Fourteen fifteen one. I don't really that meal was not that.
Speaker 1: Tall, but it's a it's good thick meal, got good
Speaker 1: thick legs.
Speaker 4: You see that what he was talking about earlier about
Speaker 4: your body condition. See, while there's a bunch of those
Speaker 4: mules that are well rounded on the hips like that
Speaker 4: mule is.
Speaker 3: Look how much thicker width wise hip on the hip on.
Speaker 2: That that animal is gonna be able to carry a
Speaker 2: bigger person for a longer period of time.
Speaker 3: Like you go the mountains and you take that.
Speaker 4: If I'm riding, if I'm done checking cows and taxis
Speaker 4: or just trail riding down in Texas, that little eight
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pound mule stands fourteen three.
Speaker 3: It's fine. That mule is gonna be tough. It'll carry
Speaker 3: you all day, it'll travel well.
Speaker 4: But now if you're gonna go up the mountains or something,
Speaker 4: you need something a little more substance underneath you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, just the mule's gonna last longer. You can
Speaker 4: take that smaller mule. It ain't gonna last.
Speaker 1: Max. Tell everybody how we're describing the height of these mules,
Speaker 1: Like what.
Speaker 3: Hand is four inches? And where do you measure from
Speaker 3: on their withers? The hohest point on their backs.
Speaker 2: So you measure from the ground to the basically where
Speaker 2: their main ends on.
Speaker 4: The back, and you'll see people take a tape measure
Speaker 4: and lay it against them measure. That's not a true measurement. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because how thick you can throw, that's right. You know,
Speaker 4: if it's a that thing high behind the two before, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's pretty true measurement.
Speaker 2: So a hand is like this archaic measurement from its
Speaker 2: way in the back down the basically the width of.
Speaker 1: A man's palm.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be as.
Speaker 1: Thirteen hands as sixty inches, that's right.
Speaker 4: As a rule, I don't remember I've measured with my
Speaker 4: hand becleus i rode. I was stooped enough for our
Speaker 4: bevery courses in high school and college, so I had
Speaker 4: to buy a glove. But as a rule, every a
Speaker 4: man's hand is gonna be three and three quarters inches
Speaker 4: to four in a quarter, it's going to average four inches.
Speaker 4: You measure ten people's hands, take the giants out and
Speaker 4: the little guys out, it's going to average about four inches.
Speaker 1: I mean, whoever decided to do that wasn't really they
Speaker 1: figured who figured up them? All the same guys that
Speaker 1: made horse hands mule hands.
Speaker 4: Well that's like you get in our country's leaps and
Speaker 4: bounds when you measure stuff. They we're out here, everything's
Speaker 4: in a section, everything's a square mile. But our country
Speaker 4: they had a drunk you'll never blind, so they done
Speaker 4: leaps and bounds.
Speaker 5: You know, you were talking about body condition with with
Speaker 5: the mule, and Mark's on their thermonomy. So last year
Speaker 5: we come here and about ten different people thought Mark
Speaker 5: was me. So I lost twenty pounds because I didn't
Speaker 5: want the confusion. L I was like, we can't be
Speaker 5: having that.
Speaker 4: That's a true story. Yeah, this is Jason Ayers. He's
Speaker 4: from Soper, Oklahoma, southeast.
Speaker 1: That's a smaller mule.
Speaker 4: But now this is your typical smaller Oklahoma Missouri. It's
Speaker 4: that coon hunting hall hunting type mule. Once because of
Speaker 4: the bruh, you know, you take Arkansas's even that way
Speaker 4: in someplace. Oh yeah, you get that brush, you'll spend
Speaker 4: more time picking your hat up than you will riding.
Speaker 2: So a lot of times when you get out on
Speaker 2: the trails in Arkansas or wherever, you'll see a lot
Speaker 2: of smaller mules fourteen fourteen hands and even smaller sometimes
Speaker 2: and it's they're pretty handy. It's not as hard to
Speaker 2: get on them, it's not as hard to get off them.
Speaker 4: If you get bucked off, it ain't here as far
Speaker 4: to falling exactly. But you'll notice a percentage wise the
Speaker 4: smaller mules are and he's trained as the bigger mules
Speaker 4: percentage wise. Part of it is who's riding them. They
Speaker 4: don't care. They just want something go.
Speaker 2: Maybe they know it's not ever going to be a
Speaker 2: top end because of its size.
Speaker 3: You've given them, you're giving the junk public to. They
Speaker 3: just don't spend that time with them. They bought him.
Speaker 4: They bought him cheaper because they were very few times
Speaker 4: they bought that mule because he was cheaper a lot
Speaker 4: of times too. Yeah, you know what I mean. Maybe
Speaker 4: so they're not They're not the guys that's gonna spend
Speaker 4: the money. I can do it, don't have time to
Speaker 4: do it. I'm not gonna pay some guy to do it.
Speaker 4: I'll just write him when I can. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's don't you, Max. That's it's not a knock on
Speaker 4: anybody or the mule itselfish.
Speaker 2: Just what what a lot of people wouldn't know is
Speaker 2: that mule. If it's I don't know, it's probably not
Speaker 2: even fourteen hands, is it? That sucker would carry a
Speaker 2: grown man all day?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Am I right? Max?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: They do.
Speaker 1: I mean you think you think, oh, the short one,
Speaker 1: the small one's not gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: That sucker will carry one hundred and ninety pounds man
Speaker 2: all day.
Speaker 4: When you pack them that. If you packed the mule,
Speaker 4: you can put as much weight on it you can
Speaker 4: another one. Now, what you won't do is for that
Speaker 4: fifteen thousand and fifty pounds me will last twenty years
Speaker 4: in the mountains. This mule is gonna last ten gonna
Speaker 4: breakhim down? Care it'll do if you really do. But
Speaker 4: you're gonna you're gonna break him down.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you a story the first sale we had here.
Speaker 4: And I'm not for your listeners and viewers. I'm not
Speaker 4: knocking any base, but the oklahomarrat I's tell you about.
Speaker 3: You know this.
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety three, I'm almost nineteen years old in college
Speaker 4: and Jody was Shoot, Jody would have been in middle school.
Speaker 4: I guess no, he'd been in high school anyway. So
Speaker 4: as me, John Robert.
Speaker 1: This is your daughter again it is okay.
Speaker 3: She's riding. She had two mules ride for someone else.
Speaker 1: That's a nice meal. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Dad said, hey, we're going to Teacher's Cowboys. And
Speaker 4: he wasn't knocking anybody Teachy's Cowboys to ride these fifteen
Speaker 4: meals to the Oklahoma Rats are riding.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oklahoma Rat is a small, smaller music.
Speaker 4: It didn't fit our customers, so we didn't view them
Speaker 4: with a lot of desirability because they didn't make us
Speaker 4: any money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not. And so.
Speaker 4: He works for us now, helps us check stock in
Speaker 4: and clerks for us there and sell. Justin McCoy he
Speaker 4: had a mule and we never made him, never knew him.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking all this time was Oklahoma Rat. Well, Justin's
Speaker 4: got this mule and he was stits and bust all
Speaker 4: slaps on him and we didn't kick any kind of
Speaker 4: hopped up neck in the hind end like he was
Speaker 4: going to.
Speaker 3: I said, oh, oklahma rat got it, Dad, I understand.
Speaker 4: So we take him in there, like I told you earlier,
Speaker 4: Dad put all he always starts the mules. Me Dad
Speaker 4: or Jody will put the full price on every mule.
Speaker 4: We might let the auction near. We're not gonna let
Speaker 4: him miss around along. You can play for a minute,
Speaker 4: but I mean a second or two, but fifteen six,
Speaker 4: we're gonna give you a price.
Speaker 3: That's the bottom. He ain't get no cheaper.
Speaker 2: So you're saying, at the auction on Saturday, meal comes out.
Speaker 2: If nobody bids on it pretty quick, you'll bid on
Speaker 2: it and you'll buy, and you'll mean it too.
Speaker 3: It's not that's that it's not getting cheaper.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 1: You'll buy it now.
Speaker 4: If we don't want it and you want it, we
Speaker 4: might let you have it at that price. But that's
Speaker 4: it's gonna bring that much. And Dad's done that since
Speaker 4: he started putting sales on the said he's always been
Speaker 4: that way. Well, so this mule comes in. Back then,
Speaker 4: we didn't let him play around it because we didn't
Speaker 4: have this high. It was all kind of standard of
Speaker 4: what mules is gonna bring. Dad starts this mule from
Speaker 4: three fifty and we had We pulled a customer out
Speaker 4: of Montana that used to buy one hundred head of
Speaker 4: a year from us, either through the sails or privately,
Speaker 4: uh named Larry Klinkbeard. That it's called busted ash ranks
Speaker 4: at early Montana and uh he uh this mule, I
Speaker 4: mean he was handy, broke. I'm talking about right. No
Speaker 4: horse would handle any better. And he's riding his mule around.
Speaker 4: He got up here about seven eight hundred. He's heard
Speaker 4: on show y'all something. He steps off this mw and
Speaker 4: I'm if I'm lying, God will strip me dead. Snapped
Speaker 4: his finger. His mule fell like he shot him. Stapped
Speaker 4: all even STAPs Ferris fuel fell. I'm talking about it,
Speaker 4: just shot up.
Speaker 1: It would lay down un commanded.
Speaker 4: This thing dropped like I mean, just dropped. Just climb
Speaker 4: the ladder. I mean we went up to like fifteen
Speaker 4: sixteen hundred boom. I'm talking about it in twenty seconds.
Speaker 4: Went from eight hundred to sixteen hundred. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When people saw that it would it would drop.
Speaker 4: Tory clinking Beard stands up in the crowd. He said,
Speaker 4: come on, boys, ain't bringing up.
Speaker 3: Beat him up. He's not bringing up, just encouraging. He
Speaker 3: was in.
Speaker 4: It was his mule. At that moment.
Speaker 3: He had to win in bid and he was encouraging people.
Speaker 3: At vid Morgus.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't bring enough and the mule he gets We
Speaker 4: got kind of get hung up for about fifteen sixteen hundred.
Speaker 4: This one of our mules. Here is Jody's boy riding
Speaker 4: this mule. Jase pretty nice mle bend in the mountains
Speaker 4: out west. But uh so we get hung up kind
Speaker 4: of about fifteen hundred and just hold on to show
Speaker 4: you one more thing and I'll be done. And he
Speaker 4: reachs and grabs this mule by his left front leg,
Speaker 4: piets it up in front of not picking up like
Speaker 4: on Clean's foot out, brings that front and walks off
Speaker 4: in his mule, hops three legged behind him, brings twenty
Speaker 4: two to fifty life of heilsover. It's making Johnny, you
Speaker 4: missed that one. We started him too cheap, he said,
Speaker 4: Burn his little narrow butt in again. I start him
Speaker 4: again at three fifty. I didn't want him. And mule
Speaker 4: comes back year later, brings like sixteen, sent me anund
Speaker 4: We had to find justin get him right to the
Speaker 4: mule through getting he had him by the week to
Speaker 4: tunume up and getting back ready again.
Speaker 1: But you just don't every Hey, what does that tell you?
Speaker 1: When one does that? Right there, he's saying, Hello, It's
Speaker 1: not a big deal.
Speaker 2: Depends on how what what miill just did is he's
Speaker 2: been ridden and he win.
Speaker 4: He braid out on it's not that's not a big deal.
Speaker 4: She's hollering her buddies. Hey, I'm stuck at her in
Speaker 4: this ring, this jack leg driving me around this course
Speaker 4: I don't go through. But she's being responsive, she's not
Speaker 4: fighting anything. She got her mouth out of anything dangerous.
Speaker 5: Which I know you were talking about earlier about the
Speaker 5: stalking legged flashy meal. This is considered flashing because it's
Speaker 5: a Palomino. But this one also has the little head,
Speaker 5: the neck, the hip, a little height, some withhither to it,
Speaker 5: the whole of saddle. So now it's got the confirmation
Speaker 5: and the color.
Speaker 4: I was telling Clay earlier. If you see one with color,
Speaker 4: use it as a bonus, not the rule. Look at
Speaker 4: it as if it was a sorrow. Obey if you
Speaker 4: like it picturing it that way. The color is a bonus.
Speaker 4: If you're buying one just for color, you're you're looking,
Speaker 4: you're you're going, you're putting cart in front of the horse.
Speaker 5: But you like that on Max, Yeah, this is this
Speaker 5: one's an oscer, like I said, when it's walking like
Speaker 5: you see, it's going over the tubs and so it's
Speaker 5: going over in uh like it's heads down, it's for
Speaker 5: like it's not getting spun up about it, like they're
Speaker 5: just trying to step around. Is it just like it
Speaker 5: didn't see no point in it. There was no fear
Speaker 5: about it. It wasn't like, oh, it wasn't trying to
Speaker 5: shoulder out to get away from the tire.
Speaker 4: It's just like kind of the last time about the
Speaker 4: stubborn and saying like he just said that mual seen
Speaker 4: he point to walk through them tires.
Speaker 3: It's got all the world in the world around it.
Speaker 3: Why why did I go through those tires?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So the last obstacle on the course, it's too big, old.
Speaker 4: It's left foot with it was like, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 4: heap you out. I'm gonna do it a little bit.
Speaker 4: But this is the stupidest thing I've ever done. My
Speaker 4: kids have looked at me like that.
Speaker 5: And j could have Jase could have spurred it and
Speaker 5: made it get in there, but he chose just to
Speaker 5: let it do what it's gonna do. Scene, let it show.
Speaker 5: It showed quiet through the whole course. Let's go with that,
Speaker 5: versus it may have lined out and did it perfect,
Speaker 5: or it may have jumped clean over the tire.
Speaker 3: It didn't look bad.
Speaker 4: And so he doesne what he should do, exactly exactly
Speaker 4: what he should have done, right, because it's once again,
Speaker 4: this is not training time. This is we're trying to
Speaker 4: We want people to show what they will do. Don't
Speaker 4: worry about what they want.
Speaker 1: Now, this is a young man.
Speaker 5: Okay, but you see the mule were not going to
Speaker 5: it's not going in a straight line. It's supposed to
Speaker 5: try it so far, lope, so far, and and so
Speaker 5: you know it's not doing its very young. I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not doing a bad deal. But where the Palamedo
Speaker 5: had just come through with Jason, it just just it
Speaker 5: was just straight as the line with no corrections.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know it's just been there, done that man.
Speaker 4: Now, look that mule gathered up in his face and
Speaker 4: touched his chin, touched his nose.
Speaker 3: The view was going very well, that's got the million.
Speaker 4: Kids, it is. It's one of the wild bunch kids.
Speaker 4: That's that's mark young youngest boy. I think, yeah, but uh,
Speaker 4: but I mean this mule's got a lot of potential. Yeah,
Speaker 4: thirty years ago, this mule retail because me or you
Speaker 4: at twenty five don't want to start one. But I
Speaker 4: don't one to know that. I get to teach a
Speaker 4: lot of that stuff too. This is the mule I
Speaker 4: want that. That's me why I would sell twenty years ago,
Speaker 4: twenty five.
Speaker 2: This could even though it's it's clear that it's kind
Speaker 2: of young, it's still got a ton of potential.
Speaker 4: A ton of potential. And he'll get overlooked, would you
Speaker 4: say so, Max? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Right, but he'll get overlooked because, like I said, the
Speaker 5: older ladies and people do it. They're not even gonna
Speaker 5: look at anything under the rix.
Speaker 3: People are not going to spend the money on this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got you.
Speaker 5: They're not even gonna look at nothing under six. If
Speaker 5: you had the best mule out here and it was
Speaker 5: two or three years old, they're gonna go. Don't have
Speaker 5: an experience for me, Yeah, only average.
Speaker 3: There's always foot deals.
Speaker 4: Well that's fastening the mule that I could have bought
Speaker 4: at home for two thousand and fifteen hundred.
Speaker 3: No, I'm scared of it. I wouldn't. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to give a thousand for walk I ever brings forty
Speaker 3: two and a half.
Speaker 4: You just don't eat. Hey, I'm gonna say this. I've
Speaker 4: been I don't go to sales like I used to.
Speaker 4: But when I was going to sales, this is the
Speaker 4: only sale that you cannot predict what something's going to bring.
Speaker 4: Would you say, at Max, Hey.
Speaker 1: That's sucker.
Speaker 2: Just it cruised through the last part of the course.
Speaker 2: It looked over here, it looked a little yancy.
Speaker 3: That's the age thing.
Speaker 2: How old is that mule? I bet it's not over four,
Speaker 2: but I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: We're not that far long, are we there? I haven't
Speaker 3: seen cloudes mules. Yeah, clones story bender has it go?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she just that one.
Speaker 2: So when you are looking at a catalog mule, at
Speaker 2: a mule auction, you have an actual catalog that has
Speaker 2: the mules numbered, and then every mule has a sticker
Speaker 2: on their rump and on their forehead. So it's like
Speaker 2: this mule number sixteen, And then you go to the
Speaker 2: catalog and you look at number sixteen, and you'll be
Speaker 2: able to read all that's been that Actually the owner
Speaker 2: wrote about that mule.
Speaker 3: She's a that mule is a four year old.
Speaker 1: Four year old.
Speaker 5: Now see this girl here says a lot of hard
Speaker 5: d mules here. She's real successful with this cell. She
Speaker 5: wins the trail course the majority. Yeah, she'll win it morning.
Speaker 3: Well. They live Kirby, Arkansas.
Speaker 4: You know where that says. Yeah, oh yeah, they write
Speaker 4: these things. They get up in the mountains, they ride.
Speaker 4: Her husband trains border colleagues and they and they trade
Speaker 4: some which I don't Some people want to discount that
Speaker 4: I do not. But Andrew is a very good hands.
Speaker 4: She's very quiet, very soft with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And to me, you're asking me to back through something
Speaker 3: they see no point in.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So the fact is, if you're out in the mountains
Speaker 2: and there were two big rocks right there, you can
Speaker 2: probably make it go right between it.
Speaker 4: Right, because this mule wants to do something like why
Speaker 4: see there? Now, once she got her line that she's doing.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, yeah, yeah, she knows that mule can do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Let very few have made that corner and kept backing.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: In all, she's probably been working with these mule quite
Speaker 4: a bit, and the mules getting tired of that trick
Speaker 4: quote unquote.
Speaker 3: That makes sense. And so you know these mules, if
Speaker 3: you hammer on too far, they just after a while
Speaker 3: they get tired of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, grab that water bottle.
Speaker 2: Oh so we lost a water bottle out there on
Speaker 2: the trail course and Justin's going to go out and
Speaker 2: pick it up for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now the thing with Andrea, if she's tiny, that's she's
Speaker 5: a tiny woman.
Speaker 3: So that's a tiny mual.
Speaker 5: That m is probably not even fourteen hands, So that
Speaker 5: that gets to be a problem. Like a lot of
Speaker 5: times I tell her, I'm like, because I've tried to
Speaker 5: buy some mules from her, I bought a couple of it.
Speaker 5: I'm like, if you just put this time in a
Speaker 5: fifteen hand or fourteen three versus a thirteen two. But
Speaker 5: there's a big market for those smaller mules, for just
Speaker 5: people just like that that are a smaller lady or
Speaker 5: a kid and they want those little mules.
Speaker 1: You know what else? Should what have we?
Speaker 2: So imagine somebody listening to this that's never been here anything, max?
Speaker 2: What what would what would be interesting to somebody? What
Speaker 2: does somebody need to know about a sale like this?
Speaker 4: Seller?
Speaker 1: Anybody?
Speaker 4: I think the buyers, I mean, I don't think we're
Speaker 4: the most premier mule sale in America. There's there's some
Speaker 4: good sales out there. I do think based on what
Speaker 4: I know, so don't. I don't want to offend anybody
Speaker 4: when I say this. I believe we try harder than
Speaker 4: anybody to the customer. The seller pays us to sell
Speaker 4: their mule, the buyer pays us nothing. I think we're
Speaker 4: a seller friendly of any sale, would you say it, Max?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I told you earlier.
Speaker 5: So the thing about this cell is is if you
Speaker 5: go to a Saturday night cattle horse type auctions sell,
Speaker 5: there's no guarantees, there's no nothing else. If they're drugged up,
Speaker 5: the agents, whatever they're going to do, you're seeing them
Speaker 5: in a little bit of ring. You're not getting a
Speaker 5: seeing work here. You're getting see the work.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: You can go to a Jay Clarix or something. You're
Speaker 5: going to get to see a course like this and
Speaker 5: do this. But everything there people are expecting to bring
Speaker 5: twenty or more and they're disappointed if it brings under twenty.
Speaker 5: So it's a seller's more. You're not going to come
Speaker 5: about just a good trum mule that you can get
Speaker 5: down the road, and this cell is the best of
Speaker 5: where you can come. And you can get some of
Speaker 5: those mules that are high end just as good as
Speaker 5: the ones that are at Jake's or Cromeny Canyon. But
Speaker 5: you can also get one for worth the money.
Speaker 4: Right just because, like we say, an earlier, just because
Speaker 4: it won't bring the twenty thousand, doesn't mean it's a
Speaker 4: good mule. Yeah, but the sellers also got to understand
Speaker 4: that even though in your mind they're the same, it's
Speaker 4: all up to the buyer. And like I said earlier,
Speaker 4: a mule is worth six cents a pound. Whatever you
Speaker 4: get over that, if it is worth what you talk
Speaker 4: somebody out of, and that's I mean, that's just the
Speaker 4: way it is.
Speaker 1: Just told me that earlier.
Speaker 2: Equine animals at slaughter are worth sixty cents a pound.
Speaker 2: So anything above that, you're talking to somebody.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: What's this mule right here? I like the looks of
Speaker 1: that mule. I have a young meal that looks just
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: I know it's got stocking legs. You got a weakness
Speaker 4: for that clock.
Speaker 5: I don't know why, but see here like okay, so
Speaker 5: you hog hunt, right, Yeah, so that's something that you
Speaker 5: would need to don't see claude or on this mule.
Speaker 5: This is a guy where they hol count all the time.
Speaker 5: Mules don't like bears and hogs on the smell generally,
Speaker 5: they got to get used to that. And so like
Speaker 5: if you were looking for a mule, this would be
Speaker 5: something you'd be interested in because for one, it's flashing
Speaker 5: and you're like flashy.
Speaker 3: But two, this one actually probably has drug hogs out.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a lot of mules there sale.
Speaker 2: You would know that if you came here and talk
Speaker 2: to some people and you get to this guy.
Speaker 3: You got three days like tomorrow. Yeah, only tack is selling.
Speaker 3: If you see a mule and the trail course today
Speaker 3: and you want to go talk to.
Speaker 5: The guy and ride it all day tomorrow, you can
Speaker 5: do it. If you talk to Clark.
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that you could actually ride. I
Speaker 2: mean I could go talk to a guy and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: let me ride that mule, and he'd be like, heck, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's most of the time.
Speaker 4: See when we first started having a catalog pors and
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's been what eight nine years ago,
Speaker 4: we had the trail course on Friday afternoon, we'd stopped
Speaker 4: the tax sall at four o'clock. Have the trail. Of course,
Speaker 4: we'd have fifty head in it. We'd have a real
Speaker 4: big course, get done pretty quick. And our tax sails
Speaker 4: last until mid night or one o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 4: so you know, let's stop this crap. So we moved
Speaker 4: it instead of moving the tack on Friday. Because you've
Speaker 4: got people that want to come for the tax Say, well,
Speaker 4: if if we moved the tax seller on Thursday, then
Speaker 4: they're taking two days off of work. We want we
Speaker 4: want those tax guys to stay of Sarday too also
Speaker 4: if possible, because then you never know.
Speaker 1: That might decide to your daughter's back.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This mule that I.
Speaker 4: Brought up here for a friend of mine retired sect
Speaker 4: trip at Marietta, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: He has not wrote this meal in five years.
Speaker 4: And she is literally he was worried about her a
Speaker 4: little bit, just because this mule will push through want
Speaker 4: to push through the bit just a little bit, not
Speaker 4: not aggressively, but see it right there. Yes, and she's
Speaker 4: and we've worked with it. But I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 4: the mule was not stepped on in five years. Casey
Speaker 4: after she got her liver lacerated. Two months later, she
Speaker 4: went to work for a gut Salasaul. Right after that,
Speaker 4: moved out here to course she's already living in Oklahoma
Speaker 4: the time moved out here, moved over sala sauce. She
Speaker 4: got healed up from the liver, went to settle a
Speaker 4: coat up, stepped on her steps on a coat, coat
Speaker 4: once up and falls on her. So Casey's nerve has
Speaker 4: gotten tested a little bit since just so many injuries.
Speaker 4: She broke her back when she's fourteen, liver lacerated it.
Speaker 4: But that she's she's been, Yeah, I mean that's been.
Speaker 4: That was two years ago. She got a liver lacerated.
Speaker 4: She's had a lot of injuries, and she she's not
Speaker 4: quite as nervy on stepping on one as she used
Speaker 4: to be. Yeah, and she's w you right first, I said, yeh, well,
Speaker 4: and so I'm I mean, I ain't. I ain't this
Speaker 4: first time I sit in the settle in four or
Speaker 4: five months because the hip that bossed me, I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: And we we lunged her for thirty seconds tops, just
Speaker 4: to see what she's going to do. You lunched out good.
Speaker 4: I mean I just stepped right on her and looked
Speaker 4: right down the road immediately. So that that's this here
Speaker 4: won't do her anything proper. That's the safety that people
Speaker 4: need to buy. I mean, turn them you all out
Speaker 4: for five years. Yeah, she's she might push you a
Speaker 4: little bit here there, yeah yeah, yeah, but she's not
Speaker 4: gonna hurt you. She's going to step off and right off.
Speaker 2: I wish we could see them all so that I
Speaker 2: could we could make a bet on what's going to
Speaker 2: be the high bed mule, red room, A red room.
Speaker 4: That's uh yeah, who's got that mule?
Speaker 3: Colton?
Speaker 1: It's a mule you actually know of?
Speaker 3: No, No, the kid kid, Yeah, he's as good. His
Speaker 3: parents are rain horse trainers.
Speaker 2: Now do you know a specific animal that he has here?
Speaker 4: He's Christie Hazard, his mama.
Speaker 3: Well whoever it is, don't think they trained rainer horses.
Speaker 4: And he's soft though. All I know is his mules.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you they'll have their head down level. They
Speaker 4: will ride as proper as they come. Uh yeah, that
Speaker 4: I forgot about that. Eddie is a nice people. That
Speaker 4: that mule will definitely be in the top five.
Speaker 1: Really, now, tell me about this mule.
Speaker 3: Max.
Speaker 2: I talked to this guy early a little bit. What
Speaker 2: do you I want to hear your assessment of this one.
Speaker 3: That is definitely a mule. I've noticed this young the
Speaker 3: ones he asked about the most are all stuck it legged.
Speaker 1: He's got no no.
Speaker 3: I did you have a girlfriend before your wife?
Speaker 1: Like Max said, I'm uncomfortable answering that question.
Speaker 4: Seriously, you dated a few girls high school, probably free
Speaker 4: mat you wife? Sure what colors are here?
Speaker 1: I'm not answering this question. I never dated a stocking
Speaker 1: legged girl.
Speaker 3: Okay, whatever color your watch here is?
Speaker 4: I better?
Speaker 3: Every girlfriend had the same color hair.
Speaker 1: I played the fifth.
Speaker 3: I did burn that once.
Speaker 2: I think probably I like a stocking leg of mule
Speaker 2: because the first good mule that I ever had was
Speaker 2: stocking that place and everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, just yeah, the first good coon dog you had,
Speaker 1: you like that, that breded dog.
Speaker 3: Take a take, kid when the one that me and
Speaker 3: you talked about it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if a record or not, but you know,
Speaker 4: Hollywood runt the mule image because there's always the comic
Speaker 4: relief that rode the mule always. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that it was all mules in the
Speaker 4: West back in the day, but there was. Mules used
Speaker 4: a lot more than just teams and draft applications and
Speaker 4: pack applications and also the other thing that messed up mules.
Speaker 4: Is is there was so many mules used on a
Speaker 4: farm that you got Let's let's just say pretend my
Speaker 4: granddad didn't light mules, but he was forced to drive
Speaker 4: that mule all the time in the field.
Speaker 1: They just had a bad image.
Speaker 4: It's like everybody wants a molly mule, and it's old
Speaker 4: stigmatism because back in back in the day, on the
Speaker 4: smaller farms, not the big ranches out west, but the
Speaker 4: smaller farms had three or four milk cows and you
Speaker 4: know this sheep all that they'd run all their stock
Speaker 4: together and rotate their pastors based on where they throw
Speaker 4: on their crops. As a rule, a molly meule, when
Speaker 4: a cow has a calf, won't kill the calf. She'll
Speaker 4: try to take that cave away from the cow. She
Speaker 4: sh shoe, She'll keep that cow kicked off that calf
Speaker 4: and you born calf. Well, farmer, looks out, cow had
Speaker 4: the caf, I see it, mulee to enter, don't kich
Speaker 4: pick the cave up, carricked the.
Speaker 3: Barn and it's safe.
Speaker 4: The horse mule would kill the calf as a rule,
Speaker 4: paul to death. So in everybody's mind, molly mules are best.
Speaker 1: Molly mules and female horse meta.
Speaker 3: Trap and I despise merrior meule. I'd ride all.
Speaker 4: I would ride a mare horse before I ride a
Speaker 4: merrior me there when that when they're not in heat,
Speaker 4: there's good as they come. But I do not want
Speaker 4: to have to guess that things in heat when I
Speaker 4: go catch her horse. Muill may be a just a
Speaker 4: turd pick at you. Aggravate you all the time. Whatever,
Speaker 4: pressure you a little more, test you a little more.
Speaker 4: But you know when you go put your hawk turning
Speaker 4: that morning to go ride here, you know you're gonna
Speaker 4: deal with it.
Speaker 1: Do you have a preference over Molly or no.
Speaker 5: I've had I've had good and bad in both. The
Speaker 5: best meal I've ever had in my life with Grace,
Speaker 5: that was a Molly. I got her sold this year.
Speaker 5: I kept her for years, but she I got her
Speaker 5: soul real high. But my personal will now and my
Speaker 5: daughter's person will both John mules.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: So there's a boy here. He's from Camaggio, cam Running.
Speaker 4: He's been coming to this cell for a long long time.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: He wanted Molly mules, but he would get the spade.
Speaker 4: It would stop that that room you're talking about my mom.
Speaker 4: We had we bought a mele for her in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety nine and looked just like that meal. I mean,
Speaker 4: I thought it was this mule reincarnated.
Speaker 3: And she that mule.
Speaker 4: She would come in heat almost on command if you
Speaker 4: hadn't wrote her for a month, and when you caught
Speaker 4: her you put a halter on, she'd come and eat,
Speaker 4: and you knew she's in heat because she was earshy
Speaker 4: when she was in heat, was not earshy any other time.
Speaker 4: And that mule was as nice and as broke as
Speaker 4: they come. But you had to beg everything she gave
Speaker 4: you for a horse mule A lot of times if
Speaker 4: they'll do something if you're dragging a log and you
Speaker 4: want to drag that log in a lope. If you
Speaker 4: ask a horsemal if he had done it before, he'll
Speaker 4: do it. But with it not asking a lot that
Speaker 4: marror me. We met to beg. Yeah that I got
Speaker 4: a wife and two daughters plus a son. But so
Speaker 4: I had three women in my life. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to have to ride one to go enjoy myself.
Speaker 5: Now, see this is probably one of the This is
Speaker 5: David Bourne trigger right, and he's one of the better
Speaker 5: trainers in the country. He's one of a bunch of
Speaker 5: mule trainers challenges. He goes around the country doing clinics.
Speaker 5: He used to be amish and jump the fence, whatever
Speaker 5: you want to call it. He's down in Antlers, Oklahoma now.
Speaker 5: But it's really good trainer. So you see the mule
Speaker 5: backing up like it's supposed to. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 5: now you could probably give him any mule here and
Speaker 5: in sixty days it be right and just like that.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is when you're bidding on this mule,
Speaker 5: you're not just bidding that that's a good mule that
Speaker 5: you know, you're buying the training too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's been trained right and handled right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know there's a there's a value to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that might be a little bit older mule too,
Speaker 1: do you think. Yeah, so this is a.
Speaker 2: Black or a darker bay, darker brown colored mule, really
Speaker 2: nice like a mule, good and thick.
Speaker 3: It's nine years old, nine years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that animals in its prime, right, So
Speaker 2: that's that's one to look for. Well, Hey, I Josh,
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna and this keep going on.
Speaker 3: If you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're we're there's one hundred mules that are
Speaker 2: going to go through this course, and we probably were
Speaker 2: probably on number thirty one, thirty one, so there's seventy
Speaker 2: more mules. But we hope you enjoyed getting to watch
Speaker 2: if you're watching on YouTube, but hopefully if you're listening,
Speaker 2: you've been able to follow along. And man, guys that
Speaker 2: know as much about Mules is Max and Justin. I
Speaker 2: learned a lot just hearing them talk.
Speaker 3: And uh, well, Clay, I do want to thank you
Speaker 3: for coming.
Speaker 4: I mean, I, like I said, I've been trying to
Speaker 4: get over for a year and a half visically you
Speaker 4: about Mules and I want I want this out. It
Speaker 4: was so ironically I've been trying to get you, hold
Speaker 4: you to get you to come here. Then you contact
Speaker 4: us like what's this? Yeah, so I really appreciate you coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, thanks for your time. It's been it's
Speaker 1: good to meet you. Man.
Speaker 5: I've heard about you for years and stuff and all
Speaker 5: the stuff you do in Archadras and the stories you do.
Speaker 4: You're what you're doing with your podcast is great. I
Speaker 4: mean some educational stuff plus and fun stuff. I've been
Speaker 4: Turkey hunting once in my life, but I listened. When
Speaker 4: I don't listen to all your podcasts I share, but
Speaker 4: when I see turkey stories, I listen to them. I'm
Speaker 4: going to listen to turkeys and I don't turkey hunt,
Speaker 4: but I really enjoyed listening. And then tell Brent, I
Speaker 4: think you did, really did beat him in the who
Speaker 4: deal with Ah, I'm gonna call him out because he
Speaker 4: thinks I'm a stalker on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to get He tried to message Brent
Speaker 2: to tell me to come to the aid of mule Seal,
Speaker 2: but no. I A meal sales usually the second weekend
Speaker 2: in April.
Speaker 3: That was always the.
Speaker 4: Second Saturday of April, that being whatever falls in the
Speaker 4: first Setarday of October. Find us on Facebook a eight
Speaker 4: to Oklahoma mule sale. Go to our website Keillsomegos dot com.
Speaker 4: Our phone numbers are on the website. Any questions, any anything.
Speaker 3: Give us a call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks guys, Thank you,