1 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: My name is Clay Neukleman. 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: This is a production of the Bear Grease podcast called 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper, 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: presented by f HF Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting 6 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged as 7 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: the place as we explore. 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: Welcome to at Oklahoma. 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: Welcome to ad to Oklahoma. That's right, you know what 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, Welcome to the bear Grease Render. This 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: is an unusual render. We're in the field and where 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: are we at? 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: Justin aight, Oklahoma, the Oklahoma Muleshell. 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: To Mule Sale. Yes, sir, So, I've got to my left. 15 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Right here, I've got Justin Kelso, who's whose family has 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: been involved in this mule sale since the beginning. Y'all 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: say yes. And then to your left is Max Bishop. 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: I just met today, but I've known about you for 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: years from Arkansas. 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're still trying to sign if it's infamous or famous, 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: we're not sure. Definite influence. 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Justin tell us what we're watching. So if 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: you're watching on YouTube, you're gonna see you're gonna see 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: us talking about. You're also going to see an arena 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: with some mules out there. 26 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Tell us what this is yesterday, what this is? 27 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: We started, We started a catalog or a consignment portion 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: of this sale, so you can have a preview of 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: the mules at home. That's at least that those are 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: coming here. Plus whatever else is checked in is open 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: consignment after these. And when we've done that, we decided 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: these mules, if you're gonna come here expecting to get 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: more money, instead of ragging on how broke the r list, 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: show how broke they are. So we very simple trail course, 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: got a few obstacles, nothing, nothing too scary, nothing too serious. 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: Every year we had or take away something. It's just 37 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: to show how broke your mule is. I mean it 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: is sitting and everything you encounter. I mean, we've got 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: pool noodles here. I've been riding a lot in the 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: back country and the trail riding, I've never encountered to 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: pull the noodle away from that. 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: What they've got is they've got a little a little 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: rack with pool noodles hanging down from it on strings, 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: and you ride your mule through the pool noodles. And 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: if you've ever been around equan animals, you know that 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: they're they're prone to be scared of us about anything. 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: And while this is a judged course, we give a 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: prize to the winners and that kind of thing, it's 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: not so much to when the trail course is to 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: sell your mule. 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: And so today's Thursday, A look. 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 5: At this one here, that's coal trains. Now he's gonna 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 5: have a really quality mealtl. 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: Your mic up a little bit mix. Yeah, there you go. 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 5: Okay, so that's coltrain mule. Come now, see like it's 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 5: a little thing. But so when you go down there 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: and you get mounted on, well he stood on that block, 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 5: snapped his fingers, that muil side passed over and picked 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: him up. So what that tells us is, though not 60 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 5: only is this mule gentleman, but like he's actually taken 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: tom to actually trained this mual. He's invested some times, 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 5: he raised it. It's out of his own stock. 63 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: So this is. 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: Gonna be one of the things. You know, he's cold 65 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: trained mules, he's well known. And so he's showing what 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 5: he's spent like probably a year on this meal doing 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: to bring to this cell to get the maximum amount 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 5: of money. 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: And so that's. 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: Course, today's Thursday, Saturday is the sale. So Saturday there's 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: a live auction and we've we've already talked about that 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: on some on the past Baggaries podcast. But but so 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: this guy right here, where's he from in northern Missouri? 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: I forget exactly what he's up around Columbia. I think 75 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: in that area. Kevin cole Trane. His wife is Brandy. 76 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: They've been coming here for a while and they go 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: to all the other sales too, and they'll have two 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: three and never sail. Like Max said, ninety percent of 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: them they raised. They've known these mules all that. They 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: don't they like I sell off my form. They generally 81 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: don't like. As a matter of fact, I just had 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: some people come buy some mules from me. They tried 83 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: to buy these mules from him last week and he 84 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: wouldn't tell them me, saying they're already in sell, they're consigned, 85 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 4: we can't sell them. And he actually told them to 86 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: come down there and see what I had. So he 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: don't want to deal with the public, and so he 88 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: can consign them to the kelso Sell and the Kelselos 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: are gonna market them nationally. 90 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 5: They're gonna have an internet, you know, so you people 91 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 5: are gonna be here, but it's also on the internet. 92 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 5: And so this guy can get the maximum amount of 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: money for his mule without having to deal with the public. 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a huge advantage of that. 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, Max, tell me tell everybody what you do, 96 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: what you're. 97 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: I deal with the public? 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, no, but I mean you're a mule You're you're 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: you're a mule man. You sell mules for a living 100 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: and have for a long time. 101 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: Well, the easy ones. Or if I buy this mule 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: and all I have to do is to be able 103 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 5: to outmarket Coltrane, he's already. 104 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: Done all the work. 105 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna buy at his top. 106 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 5: But then I'm going to out market him well because 107 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 5: he don't want to deal with the public. 108 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: And I will know that MAT's supposed likely has customers 109 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: he sold were his mules to before. Yes, I phone, Hey, 110 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: I got another co train mule for you, exactly the 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: mule sold I. 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: Mean over a phone call. 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: It probably gets it done right away, right if the 114 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: mule fits what the guys are woman's looking for. 115 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 5: So we I have mules that's never been rolled before, 116 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: and we'll get them we'll have to do the full process. 117 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 5: But you're talking about months of time of training, and 118 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 5: then you've got I've got mules that I'll get that 119 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: maybe they've let it get buddy sour and maybe it 120 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 5: has something problem. We'll have to fix a specific problem 121 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 5: and then we can sell it. Sometimes we buy the 122 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 5: mules from the Amish, and again they've done a lot 123 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: of the work. They just don't have Facebook, so we 124 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: can we can out market them. So I do everything 125 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 5: from marketing them to just the full on training them 126 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: to fix the problems. But like in this case that 127 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 5: this celle while I'm here, like Jody and Justin's and 128 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 5: Johnny sell is that there will be quality mules like 129 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 5: col trains that he won't sell you off the forum 130 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 5: and I can come here and buy them and then 131 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: I can market them. 132 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: And put the work. 133 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: In the same instance, on the flip side of what 134 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: Kevin doesn't want to deal with the public, you have 135 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: people wanting to buy meals that don't want to come 136 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: to the auction. They want to deal with Max or 137 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: Justin or Jodi or Johnny call whatever the case may be. Yeah, 138 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: they don't want to they don't want the fast thinking 139 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: auction style, so Max can They're gonna pay Max at premium. 140 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 5: They know they're paying him a premium, okay, and they 141 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 5: can come to they can ride it two or three days, 142 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: whatever they want to do. I got really good trails 143 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 5: in my house. There's twenty one thousand acres right across 144 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 5: the road from me, and they instead of saying they 145 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 5: got two minutes to bid, they can come down there 146 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: and they can ride it. Make sure this mule likes them, 147 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: it fits them, and that they can do. 148 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: What do you call yourself if somebody says, what do you. 149 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: Do for a list MYX Special Meal company? 150 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: Well, but I mean, like like an elevator pitch. Would 151 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: you say you're a mule trader? Would you say you're 152 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: mual salesman. 153 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: Would you say, well, there's other people like you in 154 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: the country that you buy and sell mules. 155 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: Well, my deal was I used to train mules and 156 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: horses for the public. That's all I did. So I 157 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: was a trainer. 158 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 5: But then you got to deal with these people don't ride, 159 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: they're not putting their time in, they're not investing in theirself. 160 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 5: So you'll get their mule trained or their horse training, 161 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 5: and then they still suck it riding, and so then 162 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 5: they're blaming you, and then they want a video every 163 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 5: day and you're on their time schedule, and like what 164 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: how's my mule doing? And they wanted it all done 165 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 5: in thirty days. Well, when I finally had enough money 166 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: and stuff set up where I could just I can 167 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 5: pick out the quality mules that I want, I know what, 168 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 5: it's a good mule. I can pick out the ones 169 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: that I want to train, I want to work with 170 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: on my time and my schedule, and then sell it. 171 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: And so like I was charging them one thousand dollars 172 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: a month to train a mule. Well I can buy 173 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: a mule here for six thousand or seven thousand dollars 174 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: and ride it two weeks and make eight thousand dollars 175 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: and not get buck thrown or kicked because it was 176 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: already a nice mule. 177 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: So so you just said something. I did ride it 178 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: a lot for the public. But some you know, you 179 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: need a little extra cash, so have a little extra time. 180 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: Somebody got a coat, one broke out or something. Yeah, 181 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: I ride it. 182 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: I quit doing it now, And I wouldn't tell aybody. 183 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it. 184 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: I just kept raising my price till they stopped paying me. 185 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: But the problem was, you, like what Matt's saying, You 186 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: ride something thirty days for them, get doing every and 187 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: it may take me forty five days to get that 188 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: thirty days of riding in. But ye, what I would 189 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: do is I would say, it may take me forty 190 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: five days to get your thirty days of riding in, 191 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: but it's gonna do this, this, and this when I'm done, 192 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: it's gonna cost you this this money. 193 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: Welly, get it home. They turn it out for three months. 194 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Don't ride it, don't ride it, don't touch it, yeah, 195 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: feed it, yeah. 196 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: And then call me, Hey, this ain't bumped me off? Well, 197 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: what have you done as the first time I wrote it? 198 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: Sorry? Yeah, And it just gets so disgusted with it 199 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: that I mean, there was the last horse I rode 200 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: for the public, wasn't even broke to lee still running 201 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: with its mother's two years old two year old past 202 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: like two and a half years old, not being broke 203 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: to lead or anything. I get this thing right in 204 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: and never done thing with me. My wife calls me 205 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: because it come to find out it was her cousin's 206 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: husband's family that owned the horse, and all her uncles 207 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: and brother. He bucked everybody off. She says, you gonna 208 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: write USA. No, it never booked with me. Why would 209 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: I go try to prove myself on something of already 210 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: done and they waited a year to write it. That's 211 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 4: not my fault, that's their fault. So I would I 212 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 4: wouldn't have got only one time for six hunderd at that. 213 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: Point, Max, I saw you something writing something down. 214 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: Do you see something you liked out there? 215 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: Well, the one that the Wild Bunch had you could 216 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: tell was doing pretty good. He was one he one 217 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 5: hand rained it through the whole deal. So the course, 218 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 5: so like when he went through the everything like that, 219 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 5: he didn't have to use two hands. So and it's 220 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 5: comously got a handle. 221 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we got interrupted by technical issues. 222 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: But that was Mark Balley Wild the Wild Bunch horse 223 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 4: Meal Company, and they helped the us Kelso's put to sell. 224 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: On okay, and uh, but they he's a hand. 225 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just there's no other way to say it. 226 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: He yeah, very good roper. He's just a cowboy. And 227 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: when I say kelboy, I'm not talking about this rough browdy. 228 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: He knows what he's doing. He knows he's a trainer, 229 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: he's a roper, he's he's the whole package, and mat 230 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: say anything he's had very long. If he said it 231 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: very long and worked it very long, it's it's it's 232 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: kind of me. He was talking earlier. Don't waste your 233 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: time on the sorry ones. If that thing's not responding 234 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: and not going to respond to stuff, why I waste 235 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 4: your time? Go get you something better. And so if 236 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: he's spending very much time on one, it's it's all right. 237 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: And then vice versa with this one. So you got 238 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: this one here. 239 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 5: It's got no business mouth, so you know it's got 240 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 5: a hacking more gadget type thing, so you know it's 241 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 5: probably sleaning its head. And then you know, like he 242 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 5: couldn't do this obstacle here, he can't do that on 243 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 5: obstacle there. He went around out of obstacle there. So 244 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 5: you know, you've got a mule that's basic basic. You know, 245 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 5: it's not It didn't buck him, it didn't hurt him. 246 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 5: But there's a place for this mule. But it's just 247 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 5: not gonna be it's not going to from the high dollar. 248 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: Knowing it's not gonna be a soap propers, what do 249 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: what would you say for somebody that was wanting to 250 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: get their first animal. I mean, I talk to a 251 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: lot of people that are like I've been around Equon 252 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: animals some but never owned one, and they want to mule. 253 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: The first thing safe, safe disposition. And if you've never 254 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 4: owned one, don't come to the doustion by one. I mean, seriously, 255 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: go spend the money to go to somebody's house and 256 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: some maady like Max or or us. I mean, we 257 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: got to there at our house, kelsehold meals dot com 258 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 4: come to our house. Uh, go find you somebody you trust, 259 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: go to their house, spend a week there if you 260 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: need to. If you're a good person and you're willing 261 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: to work, most most sellers will work with you on 262 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: something like that. I'm uncomfortable. I don't know what I'm doing. 263 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: Can I come out and try this mule for so 264 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: long and ride with the person that owns it, that 265 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: knows the buttons, knows the issues, knowse devices. Because like 266 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: we talked about in the other podcast, you're dealing with 267 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: something that God gives its own mind to. It's got 268 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 4: its own fears, its own is not a four wheeler, 269 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: that's right, so so uh go spend some time, and 270 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: if you know what you're doing, maybe you don't need that. 271 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: But but but when you're buying an animal and you 272 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: don't know what you're doing, get some help. 273 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: Don't be too proud to ask for help. 274 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: Now what are you seeing in this mule? Max? Pretty basic? 275 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: You got the same thing here you've got you've got 276 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: a hack a more so you know he's not. 277 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: That's the style of bit. 278 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing nothing, No, it's just on his nose 279 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: clamping down. But you see, as soon as he picks 280 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 5: the reins up, the thing immediately goes looking up in 281 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 5: the air. See how so everything so you've got no 282 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: control over it to a degree. 283 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: Now I want to add to what you're sent here 284 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: just a little bit. Max. 285 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: There's a guy he's dead now from southwest New Mexico 286 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: or southeast. See how southwest is the HeLa Uh his 287 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: name just tobaty me Max Harsha. Yeah, and he had 288 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: a combination bit with a nose band. Myself, I don't 289 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: like him. 290 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: That's just me. 291 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: It's kind of a some peoples. It is kind of 292 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: GIMMI don't get me wrong. When the mule responds that 293 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: Max harsh bit. Well, it responds real well, but it's 294 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: not a be all end all bits are not are 295 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 4: so different than the other piece of equipment you're gonna use. 296 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: But there are certain people get hung up on something 297 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: that worked and to keep using it. Once again, we're 298 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: dealing with the individual. You're not dealing with a full 299 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: hitter that's mass produced. And there are things just to like, 300 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 4: maybe this mule will ride with a bit maybe maybe 301 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: maybe maybe not. We don't know. I mean we're looking 302 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: at the first time I've seen the mule, so I 303 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: don't know. But also the flips and I'm not arguing 304 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: Max on what he's saying, but the flip side, this 305 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: guy maybe he rides everything with a hack. 306 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: More, right, So you don't so you're trying to we 307 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 5: have to try to decide is it the mule or 308 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 5: is it the rider? 309 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, And we got to watch the response and like. 310 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Whether that's a big, pretty mule. 311 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, But and the mule trotted down in a real 312 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: straight line like you sa you know, you can tell it, 313 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: like it's probably a good sound and all that, and 314 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 5: it's trotd what he's gonna do, And then it started 315 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 5: acting up with the. 316 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: I noticed, well when he come out here, he kind 317 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: of cut kind of quick right here when he turned, 318 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: and not a not a I wouldn't call the mule 319 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: fly to your unsafe nothing like that. 320 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 321 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: I mean what I've seen looks safe, but I could 322 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: tell that you had to. That was a mule that 323 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: if if that had been a greenhorn riding his fuel 324 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: right here when he comes to this obstacle, these this 325 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: l right here they had back through. If I had 326 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: been and greenrn, that mule would have would have made 327 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: some more steps. So look to me, that guy knew 328 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: the mule was gonna spook just a little bit. Now 329 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: this is Toddy John from Iowa. Really good hand. I've 330 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: known Todd for thirty years. He'll have some pretty nice mules. 331 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: Now what's he done is he shaved that mule's head? 332 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: All right? That's this goes back. 333 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: So we're looking at a meal that there's a distinct line, 334 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: looks like it's. 335 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: His head's been clipped and clipped pair. 336 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: They're not sheepshar, but there are same different ways with 337 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: the same styles as sheep shears. 338 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: Is that just a stylistic thing for showing that started? 339 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 4: That started on draft mule coats, they would share their 340 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: head because as a donkey or jack has has a 341 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: real heavy eyebrow, boned eyebrows. And so you take a 342 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: coat that maybe just a little bit, we call it 343 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: being rough over the eyes, a little full over the eyes. 344 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: We take a coat's got hair on it, baby hair 345 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: on it, four inches long, and it's sticking out, well, 346 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: that hair like a hood of her. 347 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: I mean, and it really makes them. No, that just 348 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: shows how clean the mule's head is. 349 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: I see, it's kind of showing it. 350 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: And it's went from there. I hate having right mules hit. 351 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: I hate it. However, some mules, why I stop there. 352 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: If you want to do that body clip the thing, 353 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: which I totally against but in my opinion, but it does. 354 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it makes her if you got if you 355 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: get it, she's tight haired. No, she didn't need it. 356 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, some people just grew up seeing it doesn't. 357 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 358 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: Now, so you guys are you're looking at a lot 359 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: of different stuff. Max, You're looking at the tack. You're 360 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: trying to discern. 361 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 5: You see how well that's the thing in this case, 362 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: here is how it's gaping his mouth open and pull 363 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: them back. But we know for a fact that that 364 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: is a good runner. Say, like on the other one, 365 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: we were like, well, we don't know if it's this 366 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 5: this mule or is it this guy Because we don't 367 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: know the guy. We know that if that mule won't 368 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 5: back up with his head down and collected, it ain't 369 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 5: his fault. 370 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: Because you know, that's why me and we was talking 371 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: about earlier in another podcast about him. 372 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Oh he through the pull noodles. 373 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: Right, but he's done. He done what he should do 374 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: around him. 375 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Now, what why is he selling this mule? This is 376 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: a good mule trainer. 377 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: He yeah, he sells it. 378 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: If I had to guess, let's see here, If I 379 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: had to guess, it's probably one that he's riding for 380 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 5: somebody else to say, it's his charity. 381 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: So Max is looking in the catalog. 382 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 4: He don't he works instruction, but he'll ride a few 383 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: mules with the evening and go to some sales. 384 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: So you might buy that meal, Max and take it 385 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: home and ride it for sixty days and really tune 386 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: it up. And it's a sharp looking mule, and I 387 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: mean it needs a little more. 388 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: Once all right, Yeah, but once again, maybe the same situation. 389 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: Even though Todd's a good hand. Maybe Max has got 390 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: a bit to fits that mule better. He may and 391 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: and me personally, I think every ride mule should be 392 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: born with a cavasall. Yes, cavasol is a nose band 393 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: with a headstall on it. Just a simple and it 394 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: keeps from gapping mouth open. In what they're doing. They 395 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: gat that mouth open. They're trying to get away from 396 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: the bed. Now you got if you've got one on, 397 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 4: you need smart enough not to have too much bit 398 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 4: in your mouth, you know what I'm saying, because then 399 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 4: you're fighting against one another. 400 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: But every mule should be born with the cavsal. 401 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: Now this this is a that's a flashy meal. What's 402 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: a flashy mual? 403 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 4: Max? 404 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: When people say that. 405 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 5: It's got chrome on it, like that color or really good, 406 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 5: but the stocking legs that that mule's got some cast. 407 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: Is that going to be a good selling mule because 408 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: of the way it looks. 409 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 410 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: I don't it has it doesn't have the confirmation. 411 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: Oh does it not? 412 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: No, I'm sitting here with two guys that lot flashy mules. 413 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: I don't. 414 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: I'm a sorrowing day guy. And what MAATX means here 415 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: this mule, she's well made. She's not thick made though, 416 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: I mean she's she's got a well rounded hip. 417 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: Now what what consequences one not being thick and not 418 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: having a lot of muscle? 419 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: I mean, is that meal not going to be? 420 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like in the on a trail ride, 421 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: you're not gonna know the difference between that one and 422 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: one that weighs two hundred more pounds? 423 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: Are you? 424 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: Depends on what you know? 425 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you're used to take your four hitners. 426 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: If you know this fore hitterer will do more. But 427 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: you always grew up on this smaller foreheader that you 428 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: always able to get done what you want to done. 429 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 4: That beer folder may be intimidating you, you see what 430 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Yeah, but a guy that knows the difference 431 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: of what job application goes or pick up? All right, 432 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: you grew up you're having a half ton truck all 433 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: your life. You only have a bunpet pull trailer or 434 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: boat whatever the case may be. This does what I 435 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 4: want to do? Yeah, tase man Max, he's got a 436 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 4: goosetack trauler. He's got to go down the road with 437 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: eight to ten mules in it. That half ton truck 438 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 4: is no good to him. So if you're used to 439 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: a mule that's got a more body, a little more 440 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 4: size to it. 441 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: And maybe do you think that's a young mule ten 442 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: years old? Ten years old, so that mules fro it's done. Yeah, 443 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna buy that mule max. I mean, i'd probably 444 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: we're gonna come out after the same out. 445 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 5: I wouldn't been on this field because like when it's 446 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: going Monday, it is doing the obstacles. He is writing 447 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: it one handed for the majority of everything. It's got 448 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 5: floppy years, which means it's relaxed its confidence of what 449 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 5: it's doing. I do have a lot of people that 450 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 5: just want a smaller meal. It's they're just TROI run. 451 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 5: They're not gonna rope, they're not going to go to 452 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: the mountains. They're you know, an older couple whatever. They're 453 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 5: just want something small. And then a lot of people 454 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 5: have bad hips or whatever. They don't want to be 455 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 5: spread out with something real. I don't like that near 456 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 5: build that a frame. So there are clients and like 457 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 5: I said, you say, when he's pulling his. 458 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Tail and doing around like it's just too small. 459 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: It's head. It's for a personal meal. 460 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: But I'm gonna say I sell more from fourteen to 461 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 5: fourteen three to older people than I do any other thing. 462 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 5: I like a sixteen hand meal looks like a head 463 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 5: of horse. They don't sell that well. But it goes 464 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 5: back to what we said about earlier. Our clientle. Clientele 465 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: has gotten older. 466 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: Next, you mind pulling up that mike a little bit. 467 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm sorry our clientele has gotten older, more crippled. I mean, 468 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: I'm broke up at fifty years old. It's been if 469 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: I'm really fifty one, I got to knees their junk 470 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 4: or help this junker right arm is. 471 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: Junk because of h riding all those bad mules. 472 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: Bad decisions a lot of times. 473 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: But but that small us whole we was talking about earlier, 474 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: This older woman that doesn't care like match's saying. She 475 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: wants something that's safe, and she lots looks of it. 476 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: That little me right, there's got some retail to it. Yeah, 477 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: this mule here, I mean, yeah, mules got its snose 478 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: up a little bit, but it's responsive that see that 479 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 4: if I was buying this meal, it's stepping out of them. 480 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: That wouldn't affect me. Mules trying. You know, it's not 481 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: it's not fighting. He's not doing exactly what he asked. 482 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 4: But the mull still not a it's not an idiot. 483 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: But once again see it. No, it's coming up like that. Yeah, 484 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 4: that wants to get out of it hates this. Serena 485 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 4: guarantee it. M also, though, might be going towards them 486 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 4: littles too. I just thought of that because going away 487 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: the mules relaxed. I remember I was talking about earlier 488 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 4: about mule seeing something hundred yards out. I guarant what 489 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: you said. You were picking his head up. Yeah, going 490 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: towards them noodles. You think it want to go through 491 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: them noodles? 492 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: Am? I ask? 493 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: How many meals did you buy here last year? Eighteen 494 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: eighteen meals in the fall? 495 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: In the fall, yeah, about the same in the spring. 496 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: I was wrong. 497 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: How how fast will you turn those over? 498 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: Say? 499 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I would take that out if. 500 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: You there's old saying the fox don't tell the hounds 501 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: all the hide notes here you go. 502 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: I was wrong. You went through the noodles and then 503 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 3: pretty well. 504 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, very well, I mean didn't hesitate, But but the 505 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: noodles to me is the same thing as a blue tarp, 506 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: whether it's over them or under them. You spend enough time, 507 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: they'll do it. That the noodles to me, the noodles 508 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 4: on a three year old had a response to it's 509 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: one thing a ten year old. It doesn't mean it 510 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: means they're going to do They're not going to do it. 511 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that mules not safe or well broke. 512 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: To my opinion, that may be the one thing that 513 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: wouldn't do. Maybe does everything else we've discussed taking the 514 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 4: noodles plumb out. 515 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: I hate them noodles. 516 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Hey, now justin here's the mule. 517 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 4: You might like. 518 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: This is a solid colored dark bay or black. I 519 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: can't tell. 520 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: Got a yeah, Yeah, it's a that's a pretty nice mule, 521 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: isn't it. 522 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? Safe. I'm gonna say this mule, yes, it's gonna be. 523 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: It's a be a older me. You, I'd say, no 524 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 4: one who's who owns it? An olderman? You'll be a 525 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: safe le thirteen years old? What it says thirteen? 526 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: What's the prime age? 527 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: Max? 528 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 5: To sell at six to ten? Ten to twelve would 529 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: be better than four to six, and as a horse 530 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 5: will four to six. Yes, that's why I was talking 531 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: about earlier. It is so different than it was twenty 532 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 5: years ago, thirty years ago. If that mule got over 533 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: a mule horse, the one got over seven eight years old. 534 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: If it's over eight, you didn't retail it. 535 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: People didn't want to know. 536 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: But I mean, a mule is coming into his prime 537 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: when he's ten, Is that about right? 538 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: A don horse mule, if he's got stripes and tiger 539 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: stripes on her legs, they should be born there six 540 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: or so. They're kind of like a blue hitter dog 541 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: could be the best one you ever had. However, it 542 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 4: takes a little water mature and that they are tough. 543 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: I like this mule. 544 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: This mule is gonna be just what I've seen, is 545 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: gonna be a very safe from you. It's gonna be 546 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: for that. This mualle here is the one that for 547 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 4: the wife does all the riding, and she wants to 548 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: buy her husband mule just to go with her when 549 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 4: he don't ride that much. 550 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 551 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 4: I used to have people that call me, he said, listen, 552 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 4: I've got a mule. My husband will ride with me, 553 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: but his mule can't be as pretty as mine. And 554 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: I would buy these. 555 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: Beig really oh, all the time, And I made lots 556 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: of money off rich women that their husband went ride 557 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: with them to please them, to be part of the lot. 558 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not knocking what they were doing, but 559 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 4: you could retail them. People are like, my husband cannot 560 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: have as nice of mules I got. 561 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 5: I literally just did a video on that. It's like 562 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: kept going viral right now about husband safe mules, husband 563 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: safe men. 564 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: Remember what someone earth where the women are leading on 565 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 4: these animals dogs. I mean the women are leading on 566 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: the animals because you know these men are. I mean, 567 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: let's face the way economy or whatever you want, the 568 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: way the lifestyles went has changed the last forty fifty years. 569 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: You have to work so much your hobbies. You don't 570 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: have hobbies anymore. 571 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: That's interesting. 572 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: You chase your kids, you know this? 573 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: Would you would you say you're. 574 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: Marketing as much to women as men. 575 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: More than women. The women are controlling the mule work. 576 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: It really mostly unless it's a roping mule or something 577 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: like that. You get us. 578 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, wagon mules, so men because all the wagon team 579 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 4: you just sit there in that wagon. You put your 580 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: cooler of whatever beverages you prefer, a lot of these 581 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 4: a lot of these wagons now cookers on the of them. 582 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: This guy or I'm not saying women, don't worry. That's 583 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: what I mean by this. This guy's been stretched out 584 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: for five days. He will spend his Saturday relaxing. So 585 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: he hook his team up. He's got his cooker on 586 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 4: the back, got his cooler full of whatever beverage. Adult 587 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: or not an adult. You want your cooter and you 588 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: sit back and hold a pair of lines and go 589 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: drive around back roads all day with your mules, with 590 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: your mules, and just enjoy the day's rollers. 591 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: Man. 592 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: So if you're if you're listening to this on audio, 593 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: you probably would do better. Let's watching this on YouTube 594 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: because we're we're again, we're we're. 595 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: Here at the catalog the cattle. 596 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: These are the catalog mules, which means mules that have 597 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: been pre registered for the sale in two days or 598 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: watching them go through the trail course. 599 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 3: Now I tee you here, now this mule, hear anybody 600 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: can write it based on just the rider. She can't 601 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: write a link. 602 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: Now, is that your daughter? 603 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: It is? 604 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: Now, that's not what I heard all day. This girl 605 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: is a she's as good as they cut. 606 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: Yes, if you see a kill it on there. 607 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 4: She's kind of some of these meals she could use 608 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: some her finding. She's pretty tough. 609 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 5: And we were at a mule sell here and I 610 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 5: don't want to I don't want to ruin his story, 611 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 5: but they paid her twenty bucks or whatever to ride 612 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: a mule through the cell. This mule kicked her and 613 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: burst her appendix or was the last ready to deliver, 614 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 5: last ready to deliver? She still rolled that meal through 615 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 5: that cell, got that meal sold, then went to the hospital. 616 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: She's tough. 617 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Wow, don't girl how old she. 618 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: She's twenty two, twenty three as fall She's tough. 619 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 1: Man. That's a nice looking mual. So this is what 620 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: do you call that? 621 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: That's a that's a du tire strap leads. 622 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: Now what makes that the it's it's the donkey. 623 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: The daddy put most of that on him. 624 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: So what typically if you saw that, you know what 625 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 2: kind of jack and what kind of mare that came 626 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: out of? 627 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: No, but I know that's a tough sung gun. That 628 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 4: would be the toughest meal you step on. You will 629 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: not kill that meal? 630 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: Right? What is that up numberstem here? It's uh Jase 631 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: Curtis's maybe. 632 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: So we're looking at a tall mule and Justin's daughter 633 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: there is riding it. I'd say it's a putting over 634 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: fifteen hands. 635 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's fifteen to one at least, yeah, maybe two. 636 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: And it's a it's a palomino color. 637 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: So it's like it's like he's got he's got black yeah, 638 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: black man and tail. 639 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: It's like the color of coffee if you poured quite 640 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: a bit of creamer in it. 641 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: Yes, and he's got the black legs up to his 642 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: to his pastons, but her passions to his. 643 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: Knees for a butt skin be black all. 644 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: The way up. He's got the stripes. 645 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: So is that your mule, No, sir, she's just riding 646 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: through for somebody. 647 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be a high dollar mule. It's 648 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: just pretty lady. 649 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 4: He's laid back, he's gentle, uh, not overly dolgeable. 650 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: I don't think you know what I'm saying. 651 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 4: But and though, well she got him through the pull noodles, okay, 652 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 4: I mean he's safe as they come, and he's ride 653 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: between I don't old to. 654 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 3: See four year old. 655 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: Oh he's just I don't think. 656 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: I don't think that's that one. I think it is 657 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: don't have a color on her for some reason. 658 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that mule has done everything. It's it's walked over. 659 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: So the trail course, forgive us. We just jumped right 660 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: into it because the mules were coming. But the trail 661 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: course basically involves the mules riding around a dirt arena, 662 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: jumping over a small log, and then they come and 663 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: have to go through basically some landscape landscape timbers that 664 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: are laid out that make a little l shape, and you. 665 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: They're supposed to back through that back and turn back. 666 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: You're supposed to make the mule go and reverse ye, 667 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: and all this is just about proving how much control 668 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: the rider has over the mule willing and they're. 669 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: Not a force control. That mule does it willingly because 670 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: it's been trained properly. 671 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: And then there's there's two fifty five gallon drums out here, 672 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: and there's a there's a cooler on top of the 673 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: fifty five gallon drums, like a like. 674 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: A collapsible cooler. 675 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: Call cooler like a yeah, like a collapsible cooler. 676 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: And the guys ride up to the fifty five gallon 677 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: drum with a cooler and reach in and get a 678 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: water bottle. And if you can like get your mule, 679 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: have enough control over your meal to pull it up 680 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: right to that cooler and reach in and get it 681 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: off of the meal like you're doing something. 682 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: Yep, and take it around a barrel, come and put 683 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: it back in. 684 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: Take it around the other barrel, and then you ride 685 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: through the pool noodles, which we've already described this little 686 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: arch with pull noodles, and then there's a wooden bridge 687 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: made of two before's and two of sixes. 688 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: Yep, it's gonna be pretty nice meal right here. This 689 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: new here will be when you're I almost say one 690 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: of the top five, would you max. 691 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: See say, and it's backing up, it's putting its head down. 692 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: It's collected where I was talking about earlier about time 693 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: one's head down. 694 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: Would you call this a bay? 695 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 6: Black bay brown, but not a bay, not a bu bay. 696 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 6: Basically he was backing on his head down to his chest. 697 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 6: That's what you're That's what the others are supposed to 698 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: be doing. Yeah, and you're seeing them. We get on 699 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 6: high headed and so that's what it's supposed to look like. 700 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: So this is probably fourteen to two. 701 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: Fourteen fifteen one. I don't really that meal was not that. 702 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: Tall, but it's a it's good thick meal, got good 703 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: thick legs. 704 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 4: You see that what he was talking about earlier about 705 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: your body condition. See, while there's a bunch of those 706 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: mules that are well rounded on the hips like that 707 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: mule is. 708 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: Look how much thicker width wise hip on the hip on. 709 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: That that animal is gonna be able to carry a 710 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: bigger person for a longer period of time. 711 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: Like you go the mountains and you take that. 712 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 4: If I'm riding, if I'm done checking cows and taxis 713 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: or just trail riding down in Texas, that little eight 714 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pound mule stands fourteen three. 715 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: It's fine. That mule is gonna be tough. It'll carry 716 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: you all day, it'll travel well. 717 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: But now if you're gonna go up the mountains or something, 718 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: you need something a little more substance underneath you. Yeah, 719 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: I mean, just the mule's gonna last longer. You can 720 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: take that smaller mule. It ain't gonna last. 721 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: Max. Tell everybody how we're describing the height of these mules, 722 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: Like what. 723 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: Hand is four inches? And where do you measure from 724 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: on their withers? The hohest point on their backs. 725 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: So you measure from the ground to the basically where 726 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: their main ends on. 727 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: The back, and you'll see people take a tape measure 728 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: and lay it against them measure. That's not a true measurement. Yeah, 729 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: because how thick you can throw, that's right. You know, 730 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: if it's a that thing high behind the two before, Yeah, 731 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 4: that's pretty true measurement. 732 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: So a hand is like this archaic measurement from its 733 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: way in the back down the basically the width of. 734 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: A man's palm. 735 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: It's gonna be as. 736 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: Thirteen hands as sixty inches, that's right. 737 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: As a rule, I don't remember I've measured with my 738 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 4: hand becleus i rode. I was stooped enough for our 739 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: bevery courses in high school and college, so I had 740 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: to buy a glove. But as a rule, every a 741 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: man's hand is gonna be three and three quarters inches 742 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: to four in a quarter, it's going to average four inches. 743 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: You measure ten people's hands, take the giants out and 744 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 4: the little guys out, it's going to average about four inches. 745 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: I mean, whoever decided to do that wasn't really they 746 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: figured who figured up them? All the same guys that 747 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: made horse hands mule hands. 748 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: Well that's like you get in our country's leaps and 749 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: bounds when you measure stuff. They we're out here, everything's 750 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: in a section, everything's a square mile. But our country 751 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: they had a drunk you'll never blind, so they done 752 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 4: leaps and bounds. 753 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 5: You know, you were talking about body condition with with 754 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 5: the mule, and Mark's on their thermonomy. So last year 755 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 5: we come here and about ten different people thought Mark 756 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 5: was me. So I lost twenty pounds because I didn't 757 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 5: want the confusion. L I was like, we can't be 758 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: having that. 759 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: That's a true story. Yeah, this is Jason Ayers. He's 760 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: from Soper, Oklahoma, southeast. 761 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: That's a smaller mule. 762 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: But now this is your typical smaller Oklahoma Missouri. It's 763 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: that coon hunting hall hunting type mule. Once because of 764 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: the bruh, you know, you take Arkansas's even that way 765 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 4: in someplace. Oh yeah, you get that brush, you'll spend 766 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 4: more time picking your hat up than you will riding. 767 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: So a lot of times when you get out on 768 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: the trails in Arkansas or wherever, you'll see a lot 769 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: of smaller mules fourteen fourteen hands and even smaller sometimes 770 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: and it's they're pretty handy. It's not as hard to 771 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: get on them, it's not as hard to get off them. 772 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: If you get bucked off, it ain't here as far 773 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: to falling exactly. But you'll notice a percentage wise the 774 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 4: smaller mules are and he's trained as the bigger mules 775 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 4: percentage wise. Part of it is who's riding them. They 776 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 4: don't care. They just want something go. 777 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: Maybe they know it's not ever going to be a 778 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: top end because of its size. 779 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: You've given them, you're giving the junk public to. They 780 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 3: just don't spend that time with them. They bought him. 781 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: They bought him cheaper because they were very few times 782 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: they bought that mule because he was cheaper a lot 783 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 4: of times too. Yeah, you know what I mean. Maybe 784 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: so they're not They're not the guys that's gonna spend 785 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 4: the money. I can do it, don't have time to 786 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: do it. I'm not gonna pay some guy to do it. 787 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: I'll just write him when I can. Yeah, I think 788 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: that's don't you, Max. That's it's not a knock on 789 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: anybody or the mule itselfish. 790 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: Just what what a lot of people wouldn't know is 791 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: that mule. If it's I don't know, it's probably not 792 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: even fourteen hands, is it? That sucker would carry a 793 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: grown man all day? 794 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 795 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: Am I right? Max? 796 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 797 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 5: They do. 798 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean you think you think, oh, the short one, 799 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: the small one's not gonna do it. 800 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: Man. 801 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: That sucker will carry one hundred and ninety pounds man 802 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: all day. 803 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: When you pack them that. If you packed the mule, 804 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 4: you can put as much weight on it you can 805 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 4: another one. Now, what you won't do is for that 806 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 4: fifteen thousand and fifty pounds me will last twenty years 807 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: in the mountains. This mule is gonna last ten gonna 808 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: breakhim down? Care it'll do if you really do. But 809 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 4: you're gonna you're gonna break him down. 810 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: I see. 811 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 812 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 4: I'll tell you a story the first sale we had here. 813 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 4: And I'm not for your listeners and viewers. I'm not 814 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: knocking any base, but the oklahomarrat I's tell you about. 815 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: You know this. 816 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety three, I'm almost nineteen years old in college 817 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 4: and Jody was Shoot, Jody would have been in middle school. 818 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: I guess no, he'd been in high school anyway. So 819 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: as me, John Robert. 820 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: This is your daughter again it is okay. 821 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: She's riding. She had two mules ride for someone else. 822 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: That's a nice meal. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. 823 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: Anyway, Dad said, hey, we're going to Teacher's Cowboys. And 824 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: he wasn't knocking anybody Teachy's Cowboys to ride these fifteen 825 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: meals to the Oklahoma Rats are riding. 826 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Oklahoma Rat is a small, smaller music. 827 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 4: It didn't fit our customers, so we didn't view them 828 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: with a lot of desirability because they didn't make us 829 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: any money. 830 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not. And so. 831 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: He works for us now, helps us check stock in 832 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: and clerks for us there and sell. Justin McCoy he 833 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 4: had a mule and we never made him, never knew him. 834 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: I'm thinking all this time was Oklahoma Rat. Well, Justin's 835 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: got this mule and he was stits and bust all 836 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 4: slaps on him and we didn't kick any kind of 837 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 4: hopped up neck in the hind end like he was 838 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 4: going to. 839 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: I said, oh, oklahma rat got it, Dad, I understand. 840 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 4: So we take him in there, like I told you earlier, 841 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 4: Dad put all he always starts the mules. Me Dad 842 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 4: or Jody will put the full price on every mule. 843 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 4: We might let the auction near. We're not gonna let 844 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 4: him miss around along. You can play for a minute, 845 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 4: but I mean a second or two, but fifteen six, 846 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: we're gonna give you a price. 847 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 3: That's the bottom. He ain't get no cheaper. 848 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: So you're saying, at the auction on Saturday, meal comes out. 849 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: If nobody bids on it pretty quick, you'll bid on 850 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: it and you'll buy, and you'll mean it too. 851 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: It's not that's that it's not getting cheaper. 852 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 4: That's all. 853 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: You'll buy it now. 854 00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 4: If we don't want it and you want it, we 855 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: might let you have it at that price. But that's 856 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 4: it's gonna bring that much. And Dad's done that since 857 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: he started putting sales on the said he's always been 858 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 4: that way. Well, so this mule comes in. Back then, 859 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: we didn't let him play around it because we didn't 860 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 4: have this high. It was all kind of standard of 861 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 4: what mules is gonna bring. Dad starts this mule from 862 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 4: three fifty and we had We pulled a customer out 863 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 4: of Montana that used to buy one hundred head of 864 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: a year from us, either through the sails or privately, 865 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: uh named Larry Klinkbeard. That it's called busted ash ranks 866 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 4: at early Montana and uh he uh this mule, I 867 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 4: mean he was handy, broke. I'm talking about right. No 868 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: horse would handle any better. And he's riding his mule around. 869 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: He got up here about seven eight hundred. He's heard 870 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 4: on show y'all something. He steps off this mw and 871 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 4: I'm if I'm lying, God will strip me dead. Snapped 872 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 4: his finger. His mule fell like he shot him. Stapped 873 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 4: all even STAPs Ferris fuel fell. I'm talking about it, 874 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 4: just shot up. 875 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: It would lay down un commanded. 876 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 4: This thing dropped like I mean, just dropped. Just climb 877 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 4: the ladder. I mean we went up to like fifteen 878 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 4: sixteen hundred boom. I'm talking about it in twenty seconds. 879 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 4: Went from eight hundred to sixteen hundred. Yeah. 880 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: When people saw that it would it would drop. 881 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: Tory clinking Beard stands up in the crowd. He said, 882 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 4: come on, boys, ain't bringing up. 883 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 3: Beat him up. He's not bringing up, just encouraging. He 884 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 3: was in. 885 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: It was his mule. At that moment. 886 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: He had to win in bid and he was encouraging people. 887 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: At vid Morgus. 888 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 4: He wouldn't bring enough and the mule he gets We 889 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: got kind of get hung up for about fifteen sixteen hundred. 890 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: This one of our mules. Here is Jody's boy riding 891 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 4: this mule. Jase pretty nice mle bend in the mountains 892 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 4: out west. But uh so we get hung up kind 893 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 4: of about fifteen hundred and just hold on to show 894 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: you one more thing and I'll be done. And he 895 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: reachs and grabs this mule by his left front leg, 896 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 4: piets it up in front of not picking up like 897 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 4: on Clean's foot out, brings that front and walks off 898 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 4: in his mule, hops three legged behind him, brings twenty 899 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: two to fifty life of heilsover. It's making Johnny, you 900 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: missed that one. We started him too cheap, he said, 901 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 4: Burn his little narrow butt in again. I start him 902 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 4: again at three fifty. I didn't want him. And mule 903 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 4: comes back year later, brings like sixteen, sent me anund 904 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 4: We had to find justin get him right to the 905 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 4: mule through getting he had him by the week to 906 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 4: tunume up and getting back ready again. 907 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: But you just don't every Hey, what does that tell you? 908 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: When one does that? Right there, he's saying, Hello, It's 909 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: not a big deal. 910 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: Depends on how what what miill just did is he's 911 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 2: been ridden and he win. 912 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 4: He braid out on it's not that's not a big deal. 913 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 4: She's hollering her buddies. Hey, I'm stuck at her in 914 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: this ring, this jack leg driving me around this course 915 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 4: I don't go through. But she's being responsive, she's not 916 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: fighting anything. She got her mouth out of anything dangerous. 917 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 5: Which I know you were talking about earlier about the 918 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 5: stalking legged flashy meal. This is considered flashing because it's 919 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 5: a Palomino. But this one also has the little head, 920 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 5: the neck, the hip, a little height, some withhither to it, 921 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 5: the whole of saddle. So now it's got the confirmation 922 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 5: and the color. 923 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 4: I was telling Clay earlier. If you see one with color, 924 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 4: use it as a bonus, not the rule. Look at 925 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 4: it as if it was a sorrow. Obey if you 926 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: like it picturing it that way. The color is a bonus. 927 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 4: If you're buying one just for color, you're you're looking, 928 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 4: you're you're going, you're putting cart in front of the horse. 929 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 5: But you like that on Max, Yeah, this is this 930 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 5: one's an oscer, like I said, when it's walking like 931 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 5: you see, it's going over the tubs and so it's 932 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 5: going over in uh like it's heads down, it's for 933 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 5: like it's not getting spun up about it, like they're 934 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 5: just trying to step around. Is it just like it 935 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 5: didn't see no point in it. There was no fear 936 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 5: about it. It wasn't like, oh, it wasn't trying to 937 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 5: shoulder out to get away from the tire. 938 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: It's just like kind of the last time about the 939 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 4: stubborn and saying like he just said that mual seen 940 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 4: he point to walk through them tires. 941 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 3: It's got all the world in the world around it. 942 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: Why why did I go through those tires? 943 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? So the last obstacle on the course, it's too big, old. 944 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: It's left foot with it was like, I'm I'm gonna 945 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 4: heap you out. I'm gonna do it a little bit. 946 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 4: But this is the stupidest thing I've ever done. My 947 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 4: kids have looked at me like that. 948 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 5: And j could have Jase could have spurred it and 949 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 5: made it get in there, but he chose just to 950 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 5: let it do what it's gonna do. Scene, let it show. 951 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 5: It showed quiet through the whole course. Let's go with that, 952 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 5: versus it may have lined out and did it perfect, 953 00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: or it may have jumped clean over the tire. 954 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 3: It didn't look bad. 955 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 4: And so he doesne what he should do, exactly exactly 956 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: what he should have done, right, because it's once again, 957 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 4: this is not training time. This is we're trying to 958 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 4: We want people to show what they will do. Don't 959 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 4: worry about what they want. 960 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: Now, this is a young man. 961 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 5: Okay, but you see the mule were not going to 962 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 5: it's not going in a straight line. It's supposed to 963 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 5: try it so far, lope, so far, and and so 964 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 5: you know it's not doing its very young. I think, yeah, 965 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 5: it's not doing a bad deal. But where the Palamedo 966 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 5: had just come through with Jason, it just just it 967 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 5: was just straight as the line with no corrections. 968 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know it's just been there, done that man. 969 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: Now, look that mule gathered up in his face and 970 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: touched his chin, touched his nose. 971 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: The view was going very well, that's got the million. 972 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 4: Kids, it is. It's one of the wild bunch kids. 973 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 4: That's that's mark young youngest boy. I think, yeah, but uh, 974 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 4: but I mean this mule's got a lot of potential. Yeah, 975 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 4: thirty years ago, this mule retail because me or you 976 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 4: at twenty five don't want to start one. But I 977 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 4: don't one to know that. I get to teach a 978 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 4: lot of that stuff too. This is the mule I 979 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 4: want that. That's me why I would sell twenty years ago, 980 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: twenty five. 981 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: This could even though it's it's clear that it's kind 982 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: of young, it's still got a ton of potential. 983 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 4: A ton of potential. And he'll get overlooked, would you 984 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 4: say so, Max? Yeah? 985 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 5: Right, but he'll get overlooked because, like I said, the 986 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 5: older ladies and people do it. They're not even gonna 987 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 5: look at anything under the rix. 988 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: People are not going to spend the money on this one. 989 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, got you. 990 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 5: They're not even gonna look at nothing under six. If 991 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 5: you had the best mule out here and it was 992 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 5: two or three years old, they're gonna go. Don't have 993 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 5: an experience for me, Yeah, only average. 994 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: There's always foot deals. 995 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 4: Well that's fastening the mule that I could have bought 996 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 4: at home for two thousand and fifteen hundred. 997 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 3: No, I'm scared of it. I wouldn't. I didn't want 998 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: to give a thousand for walk I ever brings forty 999 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: two and a half. 1000 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 4: You just don't eat. Hey, I'm gonna say this. I've 1001 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 4: been I don't go to sales like I used to. 1002 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: But when I was going to sales, this is the 1003 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: only sale that you cannot predict what something's going to bring. 1004 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 4: Would you say, at Max, Hey. 1005 00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: That's sucker. 1006 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,479 Speaker 2: Just it cruised through the last part of the course. 1007 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: It looked over here, it looked a little yancy. 1008 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 3: That's the age thing. 1009 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,479 Speaker 2: How old is that mule? I bet it's not over four, 1010 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 2: but I could be wrong. 1011 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 3: We're not that far long, are we there? I haven't 1012 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 3: seen cloudes mules. Yeah, clones story bender has it go? 1013 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, she just that one. 1014 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: So when you are looking at a catalog mule, at 1015 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: a mule auction, you have an actual catalog that has 1016 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: the mules numbered, and then every mule has a sticker 1017 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 2: on their rump and on their forehead. So it's like 1018 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: this mule number sixteen, And then you go to the 1019 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 2: catalog and you look at number sixteen, and you'll be 1020 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: able to read all that's been that Actually the owner 1021 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 2: wrote about that mule. 1022 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 3: She's a that mule is a four year old. 1023 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: Four year old. 1024 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 5: Now see this girl here says a lot of hard 1025 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 5: d mules here. She's real successful with this cell. She 1026 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 5: wins the trail course the majority. Yeah, she'll win it morning. 1027 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 3: Well. They live Kirby, Arkansas. 1028 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 4: You know where that says. Yeah, oh yeah, they write 1029 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 4: these things. They get up in the mountains, they ride. 1030 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: Her husband trains border colleagues and they and they trade 1031 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 4: some which I don't Some people want to discount that 1032 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 4: I do not. But Andrew is a very good hands. 1033 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 4: She's very quiet, very soft with them. 1034 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1035 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 3: And to me, you're asking me to back through something 1036 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: they see no point in. 1037 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: Right. 1038 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: So the fact is, if you're out in the mountains 1039 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: and there were two big rocks right there, you can 1040 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: probably make it go right between it. 1041 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 4: Right, because this mule wants to do something like why 1042 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 4: see there? Now, once she got her line that she's doing. 1043 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: It, yeah, yeah, yeah, she knows that mule can do it. 1044 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1045 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 3: Let very few have made that corner and kept backing. 1046 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: Yes. 1047 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: In all, she's probably been working with these mule quite 1048 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 4: a bit, and the mules getting tired of that trick 1049 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 4: quote unquote. 1050 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: That makes sense. And so you know these mules, if 1051 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 3: you hammer on too far, they just after a while 1052 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 3: they get tired of it. 1053 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, grab that water bottle. 1054 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 2: Oh so we lost a water bottle out there on 1055 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 2: the trail course and Justin's going to go out and 1056 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: pick it up for him. 1057 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1058 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 5: Now the thing with Andrea, if she's tiny, that's she's 1059 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 5: a tiny woman. 1060 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 3: So that's a tiny mual. 1061 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 5: That m is probably not even fourteen hands, So that 1062 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 5: that gets to be a problem. Like a lot of 1063 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 5: times I tell her, I'm like, because I've tried to 1064 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 5: buy some mules from her, I bought a couple of it. 1065 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 5: I'm like, if you just put this time in a 1066 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 5: fifteen hand or fourteen three versus a thirteen two. But 1067 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 5: there's a big market for those smaller mules, for just 1068 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 5: people just like that that are a smaller lady or 1069 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 5: a kid and they want those little mules. 1070 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: You know what else? Should what have we? 1071 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 2: So imagine somebody listening to this that's never been here anything, max? 1072 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 2: What what would what would be interesting to somebody? What 1073 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 2: does somebody need to know about a sale like this? 1074 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 4: Seller? 1075 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: Anybody? 1076 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 4: I think the buyers, I mean, I don't think we're 1077 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 4: the most premier mule sale in America. There's there's some 1078 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 4: good sales out there. I do think based on what 1079 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 4: I know, so don't. I don't want to offend anybody 1080 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 4: when I say this. I believe we try harder than 1081 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,439 Speaker 4: anybody to the customer. The seller pays us to sell 1082 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 4: their mule, the buyer pays us nothing. I think we're 1083 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 4: a seller friendly of any sale, would you say it, Max? 1084 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? And I told you earlier. 1085 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 5: So the thing about this cell is is if you 1086 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 5: go to a Saturday night cattle horse type auctions sell, 1087 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 5: there's no guarantees, there's no nothing else. If they're drugged up, 1088 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 5: the agents, whatever they're going to do, you're seeing them 1089 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 5: in a little bit of ring. You're not getting a 1090 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 5: seeing work here. You're getting see the work. 1091 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 3: Now. 1092 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 5: You can go to a Jay Clarix or something. You're 1093 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 5: going to get to see a course like this and 1094 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 5: do this. But everything there people are expecting to bring 1095 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 5: twenty or more and they're disappointed if it brings under twenty. 1096 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 5: So it's a seller's more. You're not going to come 1097 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 5: about just a good trum mule that you can get 1098 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 5: down the road, and this cell is the best of 1099 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 5: where you can come. And you can get some of 1100 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 5: those mules that are high end just as good as 1101 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 5: the ones that are at Jake's or Cromeny Canyon. But 1102 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 5: you can also get one for worth the money. 1103 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 4: Right just because, like we say, an earlier, just because 1104 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: it won't bring the twenty thousand, doesn't mean it's a 1105 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 4: good mule. Yeah, but the sellers also got to understand 1106 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 4: that even though in your mind they're the same, it's 1107 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 4: all up to the buyer. And like I said earlier, 1108 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 4: a mule is worth six cents a pound. Whatever you 1109 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 4: get over that, if it is worth what you talk 1110 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 4: somebody out of, and that's I mean, that's just the 1111 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 4: way it is. 1112 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: Just told me that earlier. 1113 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: Equine animals at slaughter are worth sixty cents a pound. 1114 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: So anything above that, you're talking to somebody. 1115 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 3: I didn't say that. 1116 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: What's this mule right here? I like the looks of 1117 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: that mule. I have a young meal that looks just 1118 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: like that. 1119 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 4: I know it's got stocking legs. You got a weakness 1120 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 4: for that clock. 1121 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 5: I don't know why, but see here like okay, so 1122 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 5: you hog hunt, right, Yeah, so that's something that you 1123 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 5: would need to don't see claude or on this mule. 1124 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 5: This is a guy where they hol count all the time. 1125 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 5: Mules don't like bears and hogs on the smell generally, 1126 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 5: they got to get used to that. And so like 1127 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 5: if you were looking for a mule, this would be 1128 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 5: something you'd be interested in because for one, it's flashing 1129 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 5: and you're like flashy. 1130 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 3: But two, this one actually probably has drug hogs out. 1131 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1132 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a lot of mules there sale. 1133 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: You would know that if you came here and talk 1134 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 2: to some people and you get to this guy. 1135 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 3: You got three days like tomorrow. Yeah, only tack is selling. 1136 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 3: If you see a mule and the trail course today 1137 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 3: and you want to go talk to. 1138 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 5: The guy and ride it all day tomorrow, you can 1139 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 5: do it. If you talk to Clark. 1140 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that you could actually ride. I 1141 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 2: mean I could go talk to a guy and be like, hey, 1142 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: let me ride that mule, and he'd be like, heck, yeah. 1143 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: That's most of the time. 1144 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 4: See when we first started having a catalog pors and 1145 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's been what eight nine years ago, 1146 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 4: we had the trail course on Friday afternoon, we'd stopped 1147 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 4: the tax sall at four o'clock. Have the trail. Of course, 1148 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 4: we'd have fifty head in it. We'd have a real 1149 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 4: big course, get done pretty quick. And our tax sails 1150 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 4: last until mid night or one o'clock in the morning, 1151 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 4: so you know, let's stop this crap. So we moved 1152 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 4: it instead of moving the tack on Friday. Because you've 1153 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 4: got people that want to come for the tax Say, well, 1154 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 4: if if we moved the tax seller on Thursday, then 1155 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 4: they're taking two days off of work. We want we 1156 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 4: want those tax guys to stay of Sarday too also 1157 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 4: if possible, because then you never know. 1158 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 1: That might decide to your daughter's back. 1159 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. This mule that I. 1160 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 4: Brought up here for a friend of mine retired sect 1161 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 4: trip at Marietta, Oklahoma. 1162 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 3: He has not wrote this meal in five years. 1163 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 4: And she is literally he was worried about her a 1164 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 4: little bit, just because this mule will push through want 1165 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 4: to push through the bit just a little bit, not 1166 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 4: not aggressively, but see it right there. Yes, and she's 1167 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 4: and we've worked with it. But I'm gonna tell you 1168 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 4: the mule was not stepped on in five years. Casey 1169 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 4: after she got her liver lacerated. Two months later, she 1170 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 4: went to work for a gut Salasaul. Right after that, 1171 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 4: moved out here to course she's already living in Oklahoma 1172 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 4: the time moved out here, moved over sala sauce. She 1173 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 4: got healed up from the liver, went to settle a 1174 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 4: coat up, stepped on her steps on a coat, coat 1175 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 4: once up and falls on her. So Casey's nerve has 1176 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 4: gotten tested a little bit since just so many injuries. 1177 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 4: She broke her back when she's fourteen, liver lacerated it. 1178 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 4: But that she's she's been, Yeah, I mean that's been. 1179 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 4: That was two years ago. She got a liver lacerated. 1180 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 4: She's had a lot of injuries, and she she's not 1181 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 4: quite as nervy on stepping on one as she used 1182 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 4: to be. Yeah, and she's w you right first, I said, yeh, well, 1183 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 4: and so I'm I mean, I ain't. I ain't this 1184 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 4: first time I sit in the settle in four or 1185 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 4: five months because the hip that bossed me, I'm telling you. 1186 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 4: And we we lunged her for thirty seconds tops, just 1187 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 4: to see what she's going to do. You lunched out good. 1188 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 4: I mean I just stepped right on her and looked 1189 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 4: right down the road immediately. So that that's this here 1190 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 4: won't do her anything proper. That's the safety that people 1191 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 4: need to buy. I mean, turn them you all out 1192 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 4: for five years. Yeah, she's she might push you a 1193 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 4: little bit here there, yeah yeah, yeah, but she's not 1194 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 4: gonna hurt you. She's going to step off and right off. 1195 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: I wish we could see them all so that I 1196 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: could we could make a bet on what's going to 1197 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: be the high bed mule, red room, A red room. 1198 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 4: That's uh yeah, who's got that mule? 1199 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 3: Colton? 1200 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: It's a mule you actually know of? 1201 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 3: No, No, the kid kid, Yeah, he's as good. His 1202 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 3: parents are rain horse trainers. 1203 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 2: Now do you know a specific animal that he has here? 1204 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 4: He's Christie Hazard, his mama. 1205 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 3: Well whoever it is, don't think they trained rainer horses. 1206 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 4: And he's soft though. All I know is his mules. 1207 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 4: I'm telling you they'll have their head down level. They 1208 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 4: will ride as proper as they come. Uh yeah, that 1209 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 4: I forgot about that. Eddie is a nice people. That 1210 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 4: that mule will definitely be in the top five. 1211 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: Really, now, tell me about this mule. 1212 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 3: Max. 1213 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 2: I talked to this guy early a little bit. What 1214 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 2: do you I want to hear your assessment of this one. 1215 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 3: That is definitely a mule. I've noticed this young the 1216 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 3: ones he asked about the most are all stuck it legged. 1217 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 1: He's got no no. 1218 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: I did you have a girlfriend before your wife? 1219 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 1: Like Max said, I'm uncomfortable answering that question. 1220 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 4: Seriously, you dated a few girls high school, probably free 1221 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 4: mat you wife? Sure what colors are here? 1222 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not answering this question. I never dated a stocking 1223 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: legged girl. 1224 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 3: Okay, whatever color your watch here is? 1225 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 4: I better? 1226 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 3: Every girlfriend had the same color hair. 1227 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: I played the fifth. 1228 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 3: I did burn that once. 1229 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 2: I think probably I like a stocking leg of mule 1230 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 2: because the first good mule that I ever had was 1231 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 2: stocking that place and everything. 1232 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, just yeah, the first good coon dog you had, 1233 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: you like that, that breded dog. 1234 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 3: Take a take, kid when the one that me and 1235 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 3: you talked about it. 1236 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if a record or not, but you know, 1237 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 4: Hollywood runt the mule image because there's always the comic 1238 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 4: relief that rode the mule always. Yeah, and that was 1239 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that it was all mules in the 1240 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 4: West back in the day, but there was. Mules used 1241 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 4: a lot more than just teams and draft applications and 1242 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 4: pack applications and also the other thing that messed up mules. 1243 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 4: Is is there was so many mules used on a 1244 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 4: farm that you got Let's let's just say pretend my 1245 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 4: granddad didn't light mules, but he was forced to drive 1246 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 4: that mule all the time in the field. 1247 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: They just had a bad image. 1248 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 4: It's like everybody wants a molly mule, and it's old 1249 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 4: stigmatism because back in back in the day, on the 1250 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 4: smaller farms, not the big ranches out west, but the 1251 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 4: smaller farms had three or four milk cows and you 1252 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 4: know this sheep all that they'd run all their stock 1253 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 4: together and rotate their pastors based on where they throw 1254 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 4: on their crops. As a rule, a molly meule, when 1255 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 4: a cow has a calf, won't kill the calf. She'll 1256 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 4: try to take that cave away from the cow. She 1257 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 4: sh shoe, She'll keep that cow kicked off that calf 1258 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 4: and you born calf. Well, farmer, looks out, cow had 1259 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,479 Speaker 4: the caf, I see it, mulee to enter, don't kich 1260 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 4: pick the cave up, carricked the. 1261 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 3: Barn and it's safe. 1262 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 4: The horse mule would kill the calf as a rule, 1263 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 4: paul to death. So in everybody's mind, molly mules are best. 1264 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: Molly mules and female horse meta. 1265 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: Trap and I despise merrior meule. I'd ride all. 1266 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 4: I would ride a mare horse before I ride a 1267 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,919 Speaker 4: merrior me there when that when they're not in heat, 1268 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 4: there's good as they come. But I do not want 1269 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 4: to have to guess that things in heat when I 1270 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 4: go catch her horse. Muill may be a just a 1271 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 4: turd pick at you. Aggravate you all the time. Whatever, 1272 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 4: pressure you a little more, test you a little more. 1273 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 4: But you know when you go put your hawk turning 1274 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 4: that morning to go ride here, you know you're gonna 1275 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 4: deal with it. 1276 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: Do you have a preference over Molly or no. 1277 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 5: I've had I've had good and bad in both. The 1278 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 5: best meal I've ever had in my life with Grace, 1279 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 5: that was a Molly. I got her sold this year. 1280 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 5: I kept her for years, but she I got her 1281 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 5: soul real high. But my personal will now and my 1282 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 5: daughter's person will both John mules. 1283 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 1284 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 4: So there's a boy here. He's from Camaggio, cam Running. 1285 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 4: He's been coming to this cell for a long long time. 1286 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 1287 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 4: He wanted Molly mules, but he would get the spade. 1288 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 4: It would stop that that room you're talking about my mom. 1289 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 4: We had we bought a mele for her in nineteen 1290 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 4: ninety nine and looked just like that meal. I mean, 1291 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 4: I thought it was this mule reincarnated. 1292 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 3: And she that mule. 1293 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 4: She would come in heat almost on command if you 1294 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 4: hadn't wrote her for a month, and when you caught 1295 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 4: her you put a halter on, she'd come and eat, 1296 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 4: and you knew she's in heat because she was earshy 1297 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 4: when she was in heat, was not earshy any other time. 1298 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 4: And that mule was as nice and as broke as 1299 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 4: they come. But you had to beg everything she gave 1300 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 4: you for a horse mule A lot of times if 1301 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 4: they'll do something if you're dragging a log and you 1302 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 4: want to drag that log in a lope. If you 1303 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 4: ask a horsemal if he had done it before, he'll 1304 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 4: do it. But with it not asking a lot that 1305 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 4: marror me. We met to beg. Yeah that I got 1306 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 4: a wife and two daughters plus a son. But so 1307 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 4: I had three women in my life. I didn't want 1308 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 4: to have to ride one to go enjoy myself. 1309 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 5: Now, see this is probably one of the This is 1310 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 5: David Bourne trigger right, and he's one of the better 1311 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 5: trainers in the country. He's one of a bunch of 1312 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 5: mule trainers challenges. He goes around the country doing clinics. 1313 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,760 Speaker 5: He used to be amish and jump the fence, whatever 1314 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 5: you want to call it. He's down in Antlers, Oklahoma now. 1315 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 5: But it's really good trainer. So you see the mule 1316 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 5: backing up like it's supposed to. Yeah, so you know, 1317 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 5: now you could probably give him any mule here and 1318 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 5: in sixty days it be right and just like that. 1319 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is when you're bidding on this mule, 1320 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 5: you're not just bidding that that's a good mule that 1321 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 5: you know, you're buying the training too. 1322 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's been trained right and handled right. Yeah, 1323 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 3: and you know there's a there's a value to that. 1324 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that might be a little bit older mule too, 1325 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 1: do you think. Yeah, so this is a. 1326 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 2: Black or a darker bay, darker brown colored mule, really 1327 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 2: nice like a mule, good and thick. 1328 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 3: It's nine years old, nine years old. 1329 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that animals in its prime, right, So 1330 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 2: that's that's one to look for. Well, Hey, I Josh, 1331 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna and this keep going on. 1332 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 3: If you. Yeah. 1333 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're we're there's one hundred mules that are 1334 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,359 Speaker 2: going to go through this course, and we probably were 1335 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 2: probably on number thirty one, thirty one, so there's seventy 1336 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,479 Speaker 2: more mules. But we hope you enjoyed getting to watch 1337 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 2: if you're watching on YouTube, but hopefully if you're listening, 1338 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 2: you've been able to follow along. And man, guys that 1339 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 2: know as much about Mules is Max and Justin. I 1340 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 2: learned a lot just hearing them talk. 1341 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 3: And uh, well, Clay, I do want to thank you 1342 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:52,919 Speaker 3: for coming. 1343 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I, like I said, I've been trying to 1344 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: get over for a year and a half visically you 1345 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 4: about Mules and I want I want this out. It 1346 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 4: was so ironically I've been trying to get you, hold 1347 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 4: you to get you to come here. Then you contact 1348 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 4: us like what's this? Yeah, so I really appreciate you coming. 1349 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, thanks for your time. It's been it's 1350 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: good to meet you. Man. 1351 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 5: I've heard about you for years and stuff and all 1352 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 5: the stuff you do in Archadras and the stories you do. 1353 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 4: You're what you're doing with your podcast is great. I 1354 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 4: mean some educational stuff plus and fun stuff. I've been 1355 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 4: Turkey hunting once in my life, but I listened. When 1356 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 4: I don't listen to all your podcasts I share, but 1357 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,919 Speaker 4: when I see turkey stories, I listen to them. I'm 1358 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 4: going to listen to turkeys and I don't turkey hunt, 1359 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 4: but I really enjoyed listening. And then tell Brent, I 1360 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 4: think you did, really did beat him in the who 1361 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 4: deal with Ah, I'm gonna call him out because he 1362 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 4: thinks I'm a stalker on Instagram. 1363 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to get He tried to message Brent 1364 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 2: to tell me to come to the aid of mule Seal, 1365 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 2: but no. I A meal sales usually the second weekend 1366 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 2: in April. 1367 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 3: That was always the. 1368 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 4: Second Saturday of April, that being whatever falls in the 1369 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 4: first Setarday of October. Find us on Facebook a eight 1370 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 4: to Oklahoma mule sale. Go to our website Keillsomegos dot com. 1371 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 4: Our phone numbers are on the website. Any questions, any anything. 1372 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 3: Give us a call. 1373 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks guys, Thank you,