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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. He is all about Chris Wesley.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Connie Fox. What up, people? Hey Dan? There we go.

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Speaker 1: West uh nodded his head by the way to that

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Speaker 1: Money intro and congratulations to Money, who was announced officially

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Speaker 1: by the l A Chargers that he is the voice,

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Speaker 1: I guess, the radio voice of the Chargers. And it

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Speaker 1: was called, I believe by Money himself, a once in

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Speaker 1: a lifetime opportunity. And that is a major, major gig

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Speaker 1: to book in this industry, to the the voice of

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Speaker 1: an NFL team. Uh, it's like top of the ladder stuff.

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Speaker 1: So hearty. Congratulations to Money, and I think he'll be

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Speaker 1: absolutely amazing at it because he has done hundreds upon

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Speaker 1: hundreds of college football games. Don pro you know he's done.

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Speaker 1: He just does. He does every type of sport. He's

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Speaker 1: a total pro. He's Money. He told me a story

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Speaker 1: once because I did this that announcer's article last year

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Speaker 1: the first time he ever did a basketball like it

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Speaker 1: was a Lakers game that the longtime Lakers announcer came

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Speaker 1: in and he's like, he thought it was a TV game.

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Speaker 1: TV is obviously the people. It's easier. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to describe the action the same way, right, And so

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Speaker 1: this veteran came into the booth and said, hey man,

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Speaker 1: so this is radio right, No, he's basically Money was

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Speaker 1: like Money, He's like, you're doing TV right, and Money

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Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm a little nervous. No, it's radio.

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Speaker 1: He goes, oh you are and just walked out, and

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Speaker 1: Money had to just deal with the game from them.

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Speaker 1: He did fine, though obviously he's obviously quite talented. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would say that this is only going to help

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Speaker 1: the Chargers chances of becoming the team of you know,

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Speaker 1: it's possible, the possibility for sure. And uh, let's just

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Speaker 1: hope he can continue to do the Money tags, because

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Speaker 1: that would be you think he's getting too big Now

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Speaker 1: maybe he might be hitting that territory. Now. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we have any reason to fear. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: having to follow that voice if you're the next person

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Speaker 1: trying to do that job for us? Yeah, there is

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Speaker 1: no following it. Like Brian Greasy trying to take over

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Speaker 1: for John Elway. Uh big, so much to talk about today,

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Speaker 1: um on the Around the NFL podcast, So much to

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Speaker 1: get to. Yesterday we were at the what is termed

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Speaker 1: the NFL Media Summit. Yeah we were. Yeah, we were,

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Speaker 1: which Uh I saw it, Mark as a sign of progress. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The entire A T and crews invited. Mark and I

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Speaker 1: were the only ones able to attend, so we were there.

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Speaker 1: We got to be, you know, a little behind the

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Speaker 1: curtain his old hat for Connie Fox. You've been to

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Speaker 1: many of you know, this was actually my first, your

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Speaker 1: first as well. I couldn't attend one two years ago

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Speaker 1: and last year's was camp right. Uh So what were

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Speaker 1: your thoughts Mark on the NFL Media Summit. I really,

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Speaker 1: I honestly thought that it was very enjoyable. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: session itself, the actual work business side of it. Uh

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Speaker 1: learned a lot. But it was long, I will give

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Speaker 1: it that. I think most people would agree with me

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Speaker 1: that it would. It was a certain length, but nine

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Speaker 1: I do remember partaking of that. Yeah, there was Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was an open bar and that was fun. And

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe we'll share some exclusive footage at some point

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Speaker 1: during the week that at this point has not really

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Speaker 1: been released in the masses, but Colleen did some great

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Speaker 1: photography work later in the night. Of course, it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a tease. It's embargoed right now. I

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Speaker 1: always found find out about this stuff about twelve hours later.

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Speaker 1: It's just yes. And and if you're not a if

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Speaker 1: you're a listener of the show, regular listener, you know

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Speaker 1: this is all kind of pointing towards them. Mark Cesler

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Speaker 1: moment that was captured on video, as often happens when

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Speaker 1: we have a get together as they get boozy. It's

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Speaker 1: We have so much to get to We need to

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Speaker 1: go through the news. We haven't uh been with you

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Speaker 1: since Thursday, so we will go through all the latest

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Speaker 1: uh happenings in the NFL, UH, including more dire news.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Jets fan hoping for a somewhat competitive season.

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Speaker 1: We will also uh talk a little bit about what

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Speaker 1: happened with Greg Rosenthal, who is not with us. He's

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Speaker 1: in and don't let him tell you otherwise. Greg is

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Speaker 1: in Martha's vineyard. Oh, I thought something bad happened. Not

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Speaker 1: unlike the Wrong Side of the Tracks in Massachusetts, like

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Speaker 1: he tries spin that one. He is in Marth has

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Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to his return. But uh, right

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Speaker 1: before he left, he found himself in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a major beef tweef. Frankly, I was worried about him

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Speaker 1: then just teach you Spanish, OPI made it there, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get it. We'll get into that, and then that

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Speaker 1: we will spend nicely into we have a little discussion

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Speaker 1: on our favorite NFL feuds through the years. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: we'll circle back to the NFL Media Summit some takeaways.

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Speaker 1: But before we do any of that, we'll say hi

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Speaker 1: uh to the man behind the glass. He's already dropped

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Speaker 1: one of the great lines of history of the show.

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Speaker 1: So at this point there's nowhere to go but down.

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Speaker 1: But there he is Sean Sullivan. We call him Sully.

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Speaker 1: What's up? But not that much? Guys and gals. How

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Speaker 1: we're doing today? We're doing great? Just one thank you,

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Speaker 1: Let's do some news. Let's go. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: Rex and Rob were videotaped getting into a fight. Uh Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: that were cooked by Wait a second, how did he

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Speaker 1: do that from any You know what, even as I'm

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Speaker 1: reading this, I hate this story as activate stupid. I

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Speaker 1: ain't the on that one meto next love it, but

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Speaker 1: a great addition to the show. Oh guess what's back baby?

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Speaker 1: And we're the ground football bring over the battle in

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Speaker 1: the NFL Altnight alright. Hank Williams Jr. Was the longtime

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Speaker 1: musical voice of Monday Night Football with his song all

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Speaker 1: my rowdy friends are here on Monday Night and uh

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Speaker 1: the famous catchphrase are you ready for some football? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Six years ago, they dropped Hank after he made some

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Speaker 1: remarks about President Barack Obama. Does anybody remember those remarks? Yes?

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Speaker 1: What were there? Compared Barack Obama to Hitler. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: as Barack Obama was golfing with John very good Hitler

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Speaker 1: playing golf with that in Yahoo referring to the Israeli

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister. That that caused ESPN to get away. But

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Speaker 1: these are strange times in the world. No longer is

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Speaker 1: that that big an issue, so Hank, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: still think it's pretty big of an issue. They ask ESPN.

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Speaker 1: They seem to be okay with it, talking about sticking

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Speaker 1: in my crawl. Why is now the right time for this.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Right now is the right time

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Speaker 1: because ESPN has come under heavy, heavy criticism from the

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Speaker 1: propagandist right side of the political spectrum. They are in

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Speaker 1: some cases boycotting ESPN for being so liberal so and

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's America. They think they can appease the right

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Speaker 1: by bringing Hank Williams back. And it's a blatant, blatant

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Speaker 1: you know, cow tow Chris a propagandist portion of the

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Speaker 1: United States. Chris Westling is hit an analytical and slam

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Speaker 1: there how incisive. That is absolutely why they do this.

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Speaker 1: Is anybody talking about that or is that? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: It's just I mean, I think it's pretty easy to

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Speaker 1: see three and connect those dots. I mean, did anybody

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Speaker 1: that's the other thing about the Hank Williams Jr. Song

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Speaker 1: And let's not go cray. I mean, do we have

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Speaker 1: Prianka by the way on the board still, which I love?

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Speaker 1: I mean we love Panka song? I love? Yes, Um,

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Speaker 1: Sessler too. I can get behind this. What happened to

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Speaker 1: this so much better? What happened I got play this

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Speaker 1: at the cozy, it's danceable and now you know it

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Speaker 1: was you could theme it towards every team that was

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Speaker 1: hosting the game. Come on, but we're moving backwards in time.

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Speaker 1: I was, um, I like that song ironically, I'm and

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Speaker 1: it's a bad song. Objectively, it's just not a good song.

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Speaker 1: Uh And and the Faith Hill song is bad, and

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Speaker 1: the Pink song before it, and the Hank Williams Junior

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Speaker 1: song is bad. There's a lot of good songs in

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Speaker 1: the world. What part we gonna all like start landing

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Speaker 1: on some good football tellcast. Thank you for acknowledging that

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Speaker 1: the Faith Hill song is a mess. Great performance though

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Speaker 1: by Faith and of course carry the Carrie Underwood is

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Speaker 1: is on my on my Power rankings. It's at the

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Speaker 1: very well, it's just above this Hank Williams song, which

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Speaker 1: the only thing I like about it is it harks

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Speaker 1: back to a time when my team actually was on

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Speaker 1: Monday night football a long long time. Yes, it's been

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Speaker 1: about that long all right. That's what's happening in the news.

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Speaker 1: Let's circle back to that media summit, and we can't

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Speaker 1: talk about everything that happened because it is, by its

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Speaker 1: nature it's supposed to be kind of a closed door

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Speaker 1: look at both the direction of the company, what's doing well,

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Speaker 1: what's not? Uh. In some cases a stage to air

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Speaker 1: grievances and share feelings about how to improve the operation here.

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Speaker 1: So the shadow I mean, the Shadow League figures are

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Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit a lot off the

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Speaker 1: grid when it comes to our podcast. But we don't

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Speaker 1: want to risk spilling circuit, you know, secrets here, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be careful. But what we can involved, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what we can say, Please Sally remind me after the

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Speaker 1: sure that it's it's it's yeah anyway, Um, Otherwise you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of editing work to do. But

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Speaker 1: we we can share that. Uh. The great Al Riverron,

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Speaker 1: who has stepped into a a much more prominent role

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now he's got the top officiating job

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00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: after Dean Blandino hit it and quit it headed on

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Speaker 1: to what I wasn't looking at you you know, took

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Speaker 1: the money and ran over to Fox. Uh. And now

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Speaker 1: Riveron it was his term to take the podium and

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Speaker 1: it was a room. It was people like us. But

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Speaker 1: then also all the players that that um, work for

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Speaker 1: the NFL Hall of Famers signed seating, I was sitting

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Speaker 1: people basically yeah. Uh. And once Al Riveron got up

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Speaker 1: there to explain the new rules and some new policies

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Speaker 1: for officiating, Uh, that really juiced up all the players

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Speaker 1: in attendance. And Mark, I think, and colle and I

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Speaker 1: think it's safe to say that Al more than held

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Speaker 1: his own against these prominent legends of the sport. It

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Speaker 1: was the for me, the most striking debut by anyone

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Speaker 1: that's worked at this company that I've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: my life. And I I thought many times, I wish

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Speaker 1: but what about West's first around the NFL post back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand second second to Chris Wrestling. But I

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Speaker 1: thought many times I wish West was here because this

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Speaker 1: is the guy you would have loved. You would have

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Speaker 1: loved what was happening in the room because he had

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Speaker 1: to go point by point through all the rule changes.

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Speaker 1: What do you think this is going to be long

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Speaker 1: and dull? And we had no idea who Al river

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Speaker 1: Roun was. He showed up like a total commander. And

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Speaker 1: he's taken on every Player's taken on William McGuinness, he's

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Speaker 1: taken on Steve Smith, everyone's throwing fire at him, and

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Speaker 1: he just Marshall falk Lt Shawn O'Hara, nobody could stand

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Speaker 1: up again. He basically say one of my favorite exchanges

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Speaker 1: of the whole thing. Uh, he goes, now let's talk

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Speaker 1: about protecting receivers, and you hear from the crowd, Oh

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Speaker 1: that's too late. Man. It was fantastic. I was sitting,

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Speaker 1: I happened to be in a very interesting cluster me

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Speaker 1: than nobody, and then you had Thrilled Davis behind me,

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Speaker 1: Ladanian Thomas and excuse me TV next to me, Trilled

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Speaker 1: LT behind me, Marshall falking front of me, and when

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Speaker 1: they were don't forget who else was in front of you, Mark, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's you know. And and when they got

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Speaker 1: to oh now we're gonna protect receivers, new rules to

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Speaker 1: protect receivers on routes, the whole group and then I

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Speaker 1: was just like with him, like smoking in the boys room, like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I don't worry about the running back. So

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, man, it's like I looked at

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Speaker 1: TV like for a little moment between us, no moment.

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Speaker 1: It was cool though, it was very cool to me.

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Speaker 1: Was great. I also heard somebody yell out, I just

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Speaker 1: think that rules trash. So anyway, Mark, you I know

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Speaker 1: UM's And by the way, at some point it got

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Speaker 1: to a point it was like an old church in

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Speaker 1: the South when River would be taking care of all

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Speaker 1: these legends. I just started going like River River like

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Speaker 1: rich eyes is right behind me. I'm sure he was

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Speaker 1: looking at me, like, what's wrong with that guy? Dan

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Speaker 1: and I were passing notes about him. Guys were on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ru Yeah. Anyway, so Mark,

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Speaker 1: you also were smitten and you wanted to him. This

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Speaker 1: is my new favorite person in the league. And so

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Speaker 1: I just wrote a statement about him and what I observed.

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Speaker 1: So here we go. Al river Iron on Monday explained

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Speaker 1: the Earth to common men. Al river N left no

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Speaker 1: doubt about his God ordained authority. Al river Ran capably

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Speaker 1: ran his personal computer from a fiery podium. Al river

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Speaker 1: Ron's skin is built of metal. Al river N's bones

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Speaker 1: are made of white hot gold from the center of

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Speaker 1: the Earth. Al river N sits for weeks on end

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Speaker 1: in a silent room forming his master plan. Al river

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Speaker 1: N doesn't tangle in political theory. He operates in cold,

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Speaker 1: hard facts. Al river N doesn't waste his hours watching

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Speaker 1: The Bachelorette Season fourteen. Al Rivern doesn't concern himself with fashion.

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Speaker 1: You will not mistake him for a clothes horse. Al

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Speaker 1: river N walks thirty three miles into the woods and

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Speaker 1: sits for days in solitude, surrounded only by the sound

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Speaker 1: of forest animals. Al river Iran is on the radar

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Speaker 1: of the c i A. Al Riveron does not believe

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Speaker 1: in squirrels. Al river N's concept of a vacation is

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Speaker 1: walking to the junkyard and smashing old cars with a

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Speaker 1: fifty pound hammer. Al Riveron is adored by children in

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Speaker 1: every country. Al Riveron has taken control and will not

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Speaker 1: let go. Well, that seems to check out. So he's

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Speaker 1: actually an upgrade on Dean Blanding. I think he Are

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Speaker 1: you kidding me? Not? Even He's what the NFL needed.

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Speaker 1: We needed our Riveron. This is this is Al Riveron.

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Speaker 1: You ask me if I have a God complex, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. I am God. Al baby. One

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Speaker 1: last thing when they because when they had to bring

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Speaker 1: Dean Blandino on to explain rules and stuff, that's part

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Speaker 1: of that job. And I don't know if he will

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Speaker 1: necessarily have it, but he'll be perfect for it all.

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Speaker 1: There's and ringing over losing Dean Blandino because he's so

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Speaker 1: perfect on TV and we're saying that, basically, we have

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Speaker 1: the guy made for the job right here. And I

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Speaker 1: think the one thing mark that you left out is

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Speaker 1: in addition to all of that, he left something out.

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Speaker 1: One thing I was gonna, I was gonna, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say the squirrel thing. But what he did, one

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00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: thing he left out. Not only did he slay all

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Speaker 1: comers coming at the Crown with his unsheathed his mighty

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Speaker 1: blade and slayed all Oh my god. So uh he

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Speaker 1: had the Xbox controller and nimbly operating it in his

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Speaker 1: right hand. That's big and Blandino, who was, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: a a revolutionary when it came to the Xbox controller,

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Speaker 1: a trailblazer. River n said I can do it too, baby,

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Speaker 1: that's why, and I can do it better. Two questions

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Speaker 1: related to your clothes horse portion of was that an

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Speaker 1: indirect shot at Dean Blandino, known to be a little

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Speaker 1: uh meticulous about his appearance. No, not consciously, not consciously,

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Speaker 1: but he he just he just had like a he

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Speaker 1: just came in wearing it was like we're fancy jeans

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Speaker 1: in a nice shirt, and he just rolled in. He

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Speaker 1: was wearing whatever he's wearing. Said, I don't care what

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Speaker 1: anyone think about me. My other comment is my continued

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Speaker 1: inability to get past the mental hurdle of attending these

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Speaker 1: functions when I get an email telling me how I

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Speaker 1: should dress. That's why I don't go to these functions.

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Speaker 1: Stop telling Mark, stop telling adults how to dress, and

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Speaker 1: I'll go to your little company function. Elevate your underwear

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Speaker 1: to the next level with me. Undy's no, all right, Sully,

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Speaker 1: We're learning on the fly together. There is a placement

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Speaker 1: all right? Oh? I'm all right? All right? Scratch you

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Speaker 1: from the through the years, I want to, uh touch

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Speaker 1: on why we thought of that as an idea. And

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Speaker 1: it all goes back to um Our Fearless former leader

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, who got himself in a tweet on Friday,

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Speaker 1: a big one in fact, and with none other than

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Speaker 1: Miko Grimes. And it's a bummer because Greg obviously is

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Speaker 1: on vacation. Um uh so we can't talk to him

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Speaker 1: about it. But I think that we should at least

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Speaker 1: touch on the Miko Grimes tweet. Should we hold often

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Speaker 1: going through all the tweets until Greg's back. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we should. Yeah, yeah, but you have to reference

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Speaker 1: what she said. Yeah, basically, at the heart of it

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00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: was and and one of Greg's pieces on the biggest

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Speaker 1: weaknesses of every NFC team. Greg made a little passing

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Speaker 1: remark that last season, Uh, Miko, who's of course, if

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Speaker 1: you're aware, Miko, who, by the way, says she listens

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00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: to this podcast. Uh Miko, Uh had more headlines. The

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Speaker 1: outspoken wife of Brent Grimes had more Yeah, had had

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Speaker 1: had guarded more headlines than her husband. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Grimes came back and had one

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Speaker 1: of his best seasons last year. So he pointed out

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Speaker 1: that Grimes is still an impact player, but also pointed

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Speaker 1: out that maybe at some point, if I'm reading this correctly,

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Speaker 1: he seemed to be trending downward and Miko was taken

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Speaker 1: center stage. She didn't like that. She didn't like being

703
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Speaker 1: referenced uh not enough respect, but on her name, I

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Speaker 1: think she was not into Greg's name. And again, I

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Speaker 1: think this is too good to to do without Greg.

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Speaker 1: But she then took him to task over the course

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Speaker 1: of multiple tweets coming after him insult Scalore, saying it

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Speaker 1: knows nothing about football, and it did get me thinking

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Speaker 1: the idea of, um, how we need to fight back

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Speaker 1: on this. We can't take this Lake. Then can I

711
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Speaker 1: start right now? You can start go ahead was speaking

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Speaker 1: of things that stick in my crawl. You had another

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Speaker 1: La ravio magnifico from one Miko grind who has been

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Speaker 1: unhinged at times in her takes online and in locker rooms.

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Speaker 1: Give me a break, And when one thing I've learned

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Speaker 1: on this job, when somebody's gonna somebody's gonna come out

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00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: and criticize a person who works as hard as Greg

718
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Speaker 1: and does his homework, there is far more ignorance coming

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Speaker 1: from the person criticizing Greg Rosenthal, who watches as much

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Speaker 1: film and does as much homework as anyone in the

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Speaker 1: business as anyone in the business. So, Miko Grime, if

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Speaker 1: you are showing your blatant ignorance when you come out

723
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Speaker 1: and you trash the work that Greg does, clean it up. Okay,

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00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: that's fair. And speaking of fair, Greg on the topic

725
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: of Grimes has been fair all along with Grimes and

726
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: absolute His analysis was not even really taking this guy down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I think that it's come on, listen, this

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Speaker 1: is the Around the NFL podcast, This is uh you

729
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Speaker 1: you have to, you know, fight for the brotherhood here

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Speaker 1: West Gray points. I was thinking it would be a

731
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: good idea, perhaps because now we're We're in a legitimate beef.

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00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: It's not just Greg we're in. We're in this beef. Now,

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Speaker 1: what about a little like this track? And there's one

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Speaker 1: literally know one person who could deliver Get your act together, bro,

736
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Speaker 1: get trash. I love her. We got her in our

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Speaker 1: back pocket. And her name, of course is Little Debbie.

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Speaker 1: So we try to reach out. We did any any luck? Mark? Well,

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00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: we're very very interested as always in being on the show.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't get it done today's schedule wise, but I promise

741
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: you she will be back. Okay, So what we were

742
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna have We want to talk a little bit because

743
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Speaker 1: if you know anything about Little Debbie's career is that

744
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: she is no um amateur or she is. She is

745
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: not like a baby in the woods when it comes

746
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: to uh beefs and people coming at her. We need

747
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Speaker 1: to talk to me. What's the best way for Little

748
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Speaker 1: Debbie in her mind to come back now at Grimes, MS,

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Speaker 1: Grimes and maybe a distract. So we're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: get her on the phone and figure it out that

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00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: I've already blocked her. Really, I blocked her immediately when

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00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: I first saw the first tweet at Greg, I was like,

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00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: this ignorant person does not need to be on my timeline. Well,

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00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: she's definitely on the sonar, I'll tell you that. And

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Speaker 1: that's the number one reason she's not blocked us. We

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Speaker 1: gotta track what's going on right now. And lest anyone

757
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Speaker 1: think that the Patriot missiles aren't being loaded up for

758
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: for for a counter let's any would think, get your

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Speaker 1: act together for a little frightening me goes a little frightening.

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00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: I got cancer. What do I care? We have. We

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00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: have a little debt that hopefully fingers crossed. Little Debbie

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Speaker 1: is like our ace in the whole. By the way,

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Speaker 1: and I think I mentioned this to Colleen last night

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Speaker 1: at the gathering. There are still podcast listeners out think

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Speaker 1: that I believe I did. I'm not sure, but I

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Speaker 1: believe this came up that there are still listeners out

767
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Speaker 1: there that that are convinced that when Little Debbie came

768
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Speaker 1: into the studio last August, that it was Colleen dressed

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Speaker 1: up it is. It is a conspiracy theory out there

770
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: that they are the same person. I love this conspiracy theory.

771
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: I love it. It's true, all right. So and then

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Speaker 1: and when Greg gets back and we get Little Debbie

773
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Speaker 1: on the phone. We will continue to figure out this

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00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: this this counter offensive that we have planned. Um, because

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00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: is this don't stand. I've never met her. I'm I

776
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: I would love to meet her. I hope she comes in,

777
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: Little Debbie. Yeah, we've never been in the same room together.

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00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you met Miko. Oh God, no, no,

779
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm seriously frightened of her. Should be all right, here

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00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: we go now. Uh. In the meantime, let's talk about

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00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: our favorite NFL feuds and uh and there have been

782
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: so many great feuds over the years, well documented of course.

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00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: Uh so why don't we go around the room here,

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Speaker 1: West get us going. I know you're a man that

785
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: likes a nice side of beef. Well, I think anytime

786
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: you talk about great feuds in NFL history, it starts

787
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: with Al Davis, who is the greatest feudal in sports history.

788
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: Nobody feuds better than a David. Leg starts out when

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Speaker 1: he is elected president of the a f L. During

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Speaker 1: the a f L and NFL Wars, the NFL's giants

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Speaker 1: signed Peak Goglak, Hungarian kicker credited with being the guy

792
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: who popularized soccer style kicking started off, there was a

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00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: gentleman's agreement that these two leagues would not sign each

794
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: other's players. NFL signs Gogglak. Al Davis immediately writes up

795
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: a plan to target all of the best quarterbacks in

796
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: the NFL and have his a FL owners way over

797
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: pay to steal these quarterbacks away. So that basically the

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00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: merger happens because al Davis's plan to sign away all

799
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks. So that's how it starts. And then

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Speaker 1: in the late seventies early eighties, he sues for the

801
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: right to move from Oakland to Los Angeles, and at

802
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: the owners meetings, this is my favorite NFL story of

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Speaker 1: all the time, one of the owners trains a parrot,

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00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: stations this parrot outside, trains him to squawk you Al Davis,

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00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: and they're walking into the building. Al Davis wins his

806
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: lawsuit against the NFL. I believe there are trebled damages

807
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: awarded to him, and he is allowed to move to

808
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And a year later, Pete Rosel has to

809
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: hand him the Lombardi Trophy because his Raiders won the

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00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Al Davis feuds better than anyone. That's pretty

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Speaker 1: good to win every time that's awesome. The parrot move

812
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: was just phenomenal. I like to think it was like

813
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: some card like Paul Brown. That's top of the list.

814
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: The parent move wouldn't it just couldn't happen today. Wouldn't

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00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: happened today. I don't even know if parrots anymore have

816
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: that ability. I feel like parrots slipped a little bit,

817
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: like you could have lost a step. You think that

818
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: that an animal species, over the course of a decade

819
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: or two loses. It's amazing this ability gradual decline. It's

820
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: going as well as the other one. Show me one

821
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Speaker 1: parrot that's impressed you in the last twenty years on

822
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: my block that rides his bike with a shirt off

823
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: and a parrot on his bike and it talks. There's

824
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Speaker 1: like he's more impressive than the parrot. To me, there's

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Speaker 1: a trash talking part in Venice Beach when you're walking

826
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Speaker 1: down to go to Henano and the whaler. Yes I

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00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: saw it the other day, Yeah, bit or it didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Did happen? To dance point a very overrated animal. Do

829
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: they live forever and they speak? I don't need it

830
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: to it's it can entrap you to hear things exactly.

831
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: It's always up to no good. It's a Stinky Davis

832
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: of the animal kingdom. And we have enough people talking

833
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: in the world do we need animals? I might be

834
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: coming over to your side on this one. It is

835
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: the Stinky Davis of the animal roll Oh my god. Anyway,

836
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: moving on my favorite um feud, Well, I got it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not talk about feuds and

838
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: talk about Geno Smith? First? I K and Polly Who.

839
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I can't Polly Who. I don't know if he's I

840
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: think he's a free agent now actually, but I just

841
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: want not to be labor the story because somebody knows

842
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: it that and Polly knocked out. Um Gino Smith broke

843
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: his jaw with a punch in the locker room at

844
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: Jets camp a couple of years ago. Does anyone remember?

845
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: This will test people's short term memory. Why I K

846
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: did it? Oh, it was over. It was a little

847
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: bit of money he owed him on money over the

848
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: course of a season or something like that, and hadn't

849
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: paid back. The story, as legend goes, is that I

850
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: K had asked Gino Smith to attend his football camp

851
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: I believe in Texas, and Gino gave him his word

852
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: that he would go and then did a no show

853
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: at the camp. So I K was angry about the

854
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: no show. And then because he was angry, he said, oh, ps,

855
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: not only am I angry about the no show. Uh,

856
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: you owe me for the plane ticket and the and

857
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: the transportation to and from the airport, which cost six

858
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. And when Gino was dismissive, Gino, I think, Uh,

859
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: and if you could read the tea leaves of how

860
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: the locker room operated and acted in the in the

861
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: time after this, Uh was kind of giving him a

862
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: little like, you know, disrespect. I'm a starting quarterback. I

863
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: don't care what you're saying to me. And and uh,

864
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: he lets put it this away. He was never starting

865
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: quarterback again after he got punched in the job. My

866
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: favorite feud because it was it was perfectly Jets and

867
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: outrageous for Ah. It was vintage Jets. Uh, and I K,

868
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: we'll live in infamy. I mean I can't really blame him.

869
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: I'd be piste too. Well. You don't punch a guy

870
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: in the jaw in the locker room when he's the

871
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: starting quarterback and you're a undrafted linebacker. It was a

872
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: complete but I can understand where he was coming from.

873
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan went and signed him to the Bills because

874
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Rex wanted the headlines that was ted. I don't think

875
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: anybody else will ever sign him in. Yeah he also

876
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: also Yeah, he also blew out his knee last year.

877
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: But anyway, Mark, you got. I don't want to spend

878
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: too much time on this, but it's a large issue.

879
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: I go back to the old a f C Central.

880
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: I know, Wes, you were at one point of Bengals fan,

881
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: so you know this just as well as I do

882
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: that growing up a Browns fan when Marty Schottenheimer was

883
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: their coach, pretty classy guy, not one who would run

884
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: his mouth. But he was in a division with Jerry Glanville,

885
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: who ran that Houston Oilers team in a way that

886
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: got into a lot, got on a lot of people's

887
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: sonar number one, and what I remember mostly was the

888
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: Sam Wish Jerry Glanville, the hatred between these guys, because

889
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: people remember Sam Wish getting on the mic against the

890
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: Browns and yelling, you don't live in Cleveland, and that

891
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: got that place right up. Jerry Glanville called Cleveland rat hole.

892
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: Cleveland never really mouthed off in return because they were

893
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of right about the city. It's at that point

894
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: was a big, big, big trouble was on fire. The

895
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: Kyoga River was on fire. A little better now, but

896
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: it's like, but, but I'll never forget I thought the

897
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: height of this feud. And you can tell me if

898
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: you think it's a different one. But when the when

899
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals on December sevente whipped up on the

900
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers sixty one to seven, and there are so

901
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: many opportunities to put your foot on the break and

902
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: show a little respect to the opponent, and they just

903
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 1: kept dropping bombs on these guys, sixty one to seven. Sam,

904
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: which runs up the score on purpose, does not apologize afterwards,

905
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: tells the Oilers players, Look, this is what happens when

906
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Jerry Glanville is your coach. He's a classless fool. He

907
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: never stops running his mouth. I'm tired of it. And

908
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: you got beat down today because your coach is an idiot.

909
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: He he did get He got that kind of reaction

910
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: because people, if you loved him, you loved him. But

911
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: if you didn't like him, he was the most obnoxious guy.

912
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: I could not stand him for my entire life. I

913
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: talked him on the phone for this uh astrodome piece

914
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: at the super Bowl, and this guy likes to talk.

915
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean I have a recording it is forty five

916
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: minutes long where he told me stories about how he

917
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: used to like there was some tree where they would

918
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: hang things from outside the astrodome to look like a

919
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: hanging person, so every coach and player coming in would

920
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: know that that's gonna be where they were gonna be

921
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: after playing the oiler. I mean, he was entertaining when

922
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: you look back on this guy, like he was a

923
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: fascinating coach, but hugely annoying to deal with, even people

924
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: that didn't hate him. And this is always a giveaway

925
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: with anybody, a couple of giveaways. When somebody is almost

926
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: impossible to deal with and nobody really likes him, it's like, oh,

927
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: what's Uh, I think I gotta give a damn straight

928
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: credit on this one. Uh, he's like, yeah, what's what's

929
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: the deal with Jerry? Jerry's and be Jerry? And also

930
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: the other and the other dead giveaway is when some

931
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: of that does have loyalty to that person. Uh, but uh,

932
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: it needs to find a way. We're like grasping for

933
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Straws on how to describe why they're actually a good

934
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: person in spite of what you've seen and heard. It's like,

935
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing about Jerry, He'll give you

936
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: the shirt off his back. If it's the last one,

937
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: that's a code for he's probably a bad guy. Anything else,

938
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: as you got another feud? I have one? Oh you

939
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: got one, Connie? Yeah? What about? My favorite was it's

940
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: from the Eagles, but Terrell Owens when he got into

941
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: it with Hugh Douglas and the two of them. I

942
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: guess t O was rehabbing, so he was in one

943
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: of the tubs. And my favorite version of the story

944
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: is when Brian Westbrook tells it because he was in

945
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: the training room when it happened. So we watched the

946
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: whole thing because you get like so many different iteration

947
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: of the same story. But as Brian tells it, Uh,

948
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: te O was in the tub like icing up or whatever,

949
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: and Hugh comes in and they start drawing at each other,

950
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: and I think Westbrook was in another tub so like

951
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: he couldn't get out, and all of a sudden TiO

952
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: stands up and goes and gets his shoes to put

953
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: his shoes on so he could have like some leverage,

954
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: and then they just start throwing punches at each other

955
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: in the training room in the middle of it all,

956
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: and TiO walks out because it was a closed locker room.

957
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: TiO walks out, as the story goes, and goes into

958
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: the main locker room and then challenges anybody else that

959
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: has a problem with him to take care of it

960
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: right then and there. And most people viewed that as

961
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: a direct challenge to Donovan McNabb who was also in

962
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: the locker room, so right after that he got like

963
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: suspended and definitely and the whole thing a Hall of

964
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: Famer by the way, any stories like this, uh point

965
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: to why maybe he struggled to get people onside selling

966
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: you have one. Yeah, I was gonna bring up a

967
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: question to my my favorite current one right now Isoto

968
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: belcom versus Josh Norman? Is her a better current feud?

969
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is the worst one, but it

970
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: is awesome anytime Josh Norman talks. I'm just like, God,

971
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: somebody shut this guy. I love it. I love him

972
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: not necessarily off the field, but on the field when

973
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: they're they're basically swinging at each other. That was the

974
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: rare fight December in two thousand fifteen, the regular season

975
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: game between the Giants and uh uh Panthers. Now he's

976
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: with the Redskins, of course, where neither guy came off well,

977
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: it was very clear it got to a point where

978
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: neither guy cared about the game on any level and

979
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: it had just become like a Mano Imano situation, only

980
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: both guys just came off incredibly lame in my opinion

981
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 1: at least, and I think a lot of people thought

982
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: it was. It went too far where it's just farce

983
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: by the end of the game. Uh. And I have

984
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: a little prediction. I think that's gonna come back this year.

985
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: It was a little quiet last year. I think ninety

986
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: percent of the reason Josh Norman signed in the with

987
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: the Redskins is because he could continue to have uh

988
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: serve up slabs of beef with Des Bryant with Odell Beckham.

989
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: That I think, yeah, And I have a feeling we're

990
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: going to see another meltdown between Beckham and Norman before

991
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: the season goes out, and West's head will explode. I'm

992
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: gonna save all of my veto powers for Josh Norman. Two.

993
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. Uh, we talked about Al Davis

994
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: being great at feuding. Buddy Ryan is another one. Feuded

995
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: with Mike Dick almost his entire time running the four

996
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: six defense with the Bears, and then famously punched gil

997
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: Kevin Gilbride in the face on the sideline when he

998
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: went when they were both with the Oilers. Yeah, that

999
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: when Buddy Ryan got carried off the field. Uh, super

1000
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty. How do you think that's that with Dicka? Well,

1001
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: we he It's very clear it did not sit well

1002
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: with him at all. And my favorite it, I'll I'll

1003
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: read a quote, my favorite quote in the midst of

1004
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: a massive feud. If if that man was on fire

1005
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: and I had to piss to put him out, I

1006
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. I hate him and will never respect him.

1007
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: Anybody remember that one? Who's that? That's James Harrison on

1008
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: the commissioner part of when they were fighting about illegal

1009
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: hits and when the NFL's cracking down on players and

1010
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: in an effort to begin their player safety initiative, and

1011
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: Harrison was at the spocal point of that. That was

1012
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: an interview with Men's Journal in two thousand eleven. Uh. Interesting, Well,

1013
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: don't we have a little We don't to go into it,

1014
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: but do we want to do a little list of

1015
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: the other ones that the West for both of us, Uh,

1016
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson Jerry Jones, Well they could have that dynasty

1017
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: could have gone many years longer. But by all reports,

1018
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: that feud was about who deserved credit for building the dynasty,

1019
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: and jim you always got the credit. Jerry did not

1020
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: like it. I was in Australia for some random month,

1021
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: like six months off of school because I basically was

1022
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: done with college and I did not want to go

1023
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: back and was traveling around. I was in Sydney and

1024
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: I saw this like international version of USA Today saying

1025
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: that Jerry Jones had fired Jimmy Johnson, and I was like,

1026
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: am I have I eaten a tab of acid? This

1027
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: cannot pos Probably yeah. And then one of those things

1028
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: where it worked out for neither guy. Jimmy Johnson went

1029
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: to Miami, never won anything. Jerry Jones has been back

1030
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl since. How about this one? Marcus Vick?

1031
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: Everyone on Twitter just awful at Twitter. I think the

1032
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: reason we don't hear from anymore is because he got

1033
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: so bad. Twitter was like, bro, you're you're overserved. I

1034
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: mean every time Michael Vick started to do well, even

1035
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and play well, his brother would just start

1036
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: mouthing off on Twitter. It was awful about Peyton Manning

1037
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: versus is Mike Vanderjack got all liquored up and ran

1038
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 1: his mouth. That was a comment made at the Pro Bowl,

1039
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: by the way, and UH after Belichick versus Mangini of

1040
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: course spy Gate, and this came up recently rich to

1041
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: me and he was my favorite UM beat writer for

1042
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: the Jets. He's a legend on that beat and he

1043
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: interviewed Simini had excuse me, Mangini at a football camp

1044
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: UH recently about how he liked He hasn't spoken with Belichick,

1045
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: who was very close with before spy Gate, and he

1046
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: would like to mend fences on that front, but probably

1047
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: knows deep in his heart probably will never happen. And

1048
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: if you're looking to know if if Belichick has forgiven

1049
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: UH Mangini recently in a press conference, UH, Belichick was

1050
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: just going through all the UH coaches in his past

1051
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: that went on to get head coaching jobs and he

1052
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: left Mangini out of the list. Could be an oversight

1053
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: or could be the man is dead to him low

1054
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: key burn. Yeah, all right, top feuds and now Greg

1055
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: Rosenthal and Miko Grimes top of the list, top of

1056
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: the list with a bullet number one. We will be

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Speaker 1: back on h Thursday with another episode of the Round

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. People are getting upset when they're not

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Speaker 1: seeing podcasts on Monday. We you know, we're doing two

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Speaker 1: shows a week until we hit training camp, and then

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Speaker 1: once training campaigns we're back to three uh a week

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Speaker 1: all through the end of July, August, Sotimber, October. Is

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Speaker 1: Sannie ever coming home? Yeah, that's when that begins. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: thank you Connie for joining us once again, of course,

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Speaker 1: just so versatile real b J shf, Wow, how I

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Speaker 1: look at you? Thank you b J s Off one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest catching prospects of the nineteen eighties. Let's

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Speaker 1: send a football podcast by going out on a low

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Speaker 1: level baseball reference. It's a good way to do it,

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Speaker 1: all right, stay hands the sun about for a quiet storm,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, Connie Fox and Sully behind the glass until Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I kept Daddy might be slipping out of here a

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Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Today. It's really repeat when you call

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Speaker 1: yourself daddy, like us lightly. What have I referred to

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Speaker 1: myself as mommy? Now that would be weird. Mommy might

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Speaker 1: begetting that here little really