WEBVTT - ITS Home Edition: Jason Mraz

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Joe Leaving. Okay, so, as you probably know,

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<v Speaker 1>we started the home edition of the show to let

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<v Speaker 1>you in on the ways that artists are coping with

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine and how these times are impacting their lives and

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<v Speaker 1>the way they make music. I think it's pretty safe

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<v Speaker 1>to say that no one we've spoken with has given

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<v Speaker 1>this quite as much thought, reflection and meditation as Jason Morass.

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<v Speaker 1>When Jason said this has been the weirdest year of

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<v Speaker 1>his life, I felt that big time. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>he followed it up by by talking about feeling a

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing positivity is people try to learn how to make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel their smile behind their mask, I felt that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason's got a lot of interesting things to say. And

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<v Speaker 1>even if I'm not a hundred percent sure about disadvice

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<v Speaker 1>to start every day by making your bed, I did

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<v Speaker 1>try it this morning and it definitely didn't make things

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<v Speaker 1>any worse anyway. If you enjoy this episode, be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to the I Heart Radio podcast hosted by

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<v Speaker 1>our Quarantine correspondent Jordan run Talk. It's called Rivals, Music's

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<v Speaker 1>Greatest Feuds and it's available wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Jordan run Talk, But enough about me.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is a singer songwriter, and when he's

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<v Speaker 1>not doing that, he's growing food on his ranch in

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<v Speaker 1>southern California's uplifting summer jams like the Remedy and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Yours are just as sunny as his disposition. And now

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<v Speaker 1>he's putting some badly needed positive vibes into the world

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<v Speaker 1>with his latest release, Look for the Good. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>collection of original reggae tracks and bued with messages of

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<v Speaker 1>optimism and gratitude, as practiced by his hero Mr Rogers.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also backing up his ideals with action by dating

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<v Speaker 1>proceeds from the record to charities promoting Black Lives Matter causes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled the welcome, Mr Ada z Jason Mraz Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>It's such an honor to speak to you. God knows

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<v Speaker 1>I've spent so much of my my teenage years playing

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<v Speaker 1>your songs two girls on guitar, trying to impress them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I owe you a belated apology for for all

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<v Speaker 1>of those times I've massacred your songs in the name

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<v Speaker 1>of love. Oh, I don't mind. They're your songs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when we record them and put them out there for

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<v Speaker 1>you to do what you wish for good or bad,

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<v Speaker 1>for for awkward or for romantic heroism. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the above. In that one, i'd say, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, how does life in quarantine find you today?

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<v Speaker 1>Totally weird, man. I've just this has been the weirdest

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<v Speaker 1>year of my life and probably for everyone. Probably for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>just what was normal has been changed, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>now being normalized into some really radical, far out and

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<v Speaker 1>painful things as well. During it all, we're just asked

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of stay away from each other, stay home,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your keep your mouth covered. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>Twilight Zone all over the place, you know who it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. But what's very What I find is interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it adds to the weirdness, is that I've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced an increased level of politeness and cooperation. Like even

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<v Speaker 1>though we are being we are seeing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>negativity in the world, Like America is getting an education,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go to the grocery store and you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the gas station, you're doing the things we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do to interact in the public working environments all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just found an overall sense of like, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get through this, and hey, how are you? And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure you can feel my smile

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<v Speaker 1>behind this mask. I really am getting that so and

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird too, you know, it's like, Wow, everybody's being

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<v Speaker 1>really nice. What's going on? It's definitely like I've noticed

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<v Speaker 1>to trying to like smile with the eyes more, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I guess, like what Tyra taught us. I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose it's the smizing. It's like you want people to

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I do that too. I agree. Wow. Thanks Tyra.

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<v Speaker 1>You've said on many occasions you are such an EmPATH,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know a lot of my friends and myself

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<v Speaker 1>for it's so hard not to to get bogged down

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<v Speaker 1>with the feeling of just just taking on everybody else's pain.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you try to keep your own head above

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<v Speaker 1>water and look out for yourself first without taking everything

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<v Speaker 1>else on? Well, they do tell you on the aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>to secure your own mask first before you help the others, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's a metaphor for something, but definitely I've always

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<v Speaker 1>found that world peace begins within So anything I do

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<v Speaker 1>when I get up in the morning, make my bed,

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<v Speaker 1>brush my teeth, do a little yoga stretch, that short

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<v Speaker 1>little routine is sort of my mindfulness and my alignment

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<v Speaker 1>in my balance. So when I step out into the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen where I have a shared space with roommates, or

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<v Speaker 1>I flip on my phone and I see the entire

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<v Speaker 1>world exploding, I can at least observe that from a

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<v Speaker 1>balanced in a calm place. I can observe the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the always changing world, the uncertain world. I can observe

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<v Speaker 1>it with a with a grounded sense of like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know who I am and I can handle this. I

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<v Speaker 1>can make calm decisions out of love, not of fear.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas if I skip the bed making, if I skip

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<v Speaker 1>my yoga practice, if I don't brush my teeth and

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<v Speaker 1>I just run into the kitchen, I just look at

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, I don't have any I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>place to stand on, and that whole world, uh can

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelm me, and then it's harder to even get out

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<v Speaker 1>of bed and get on with my day or be productive. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's small practices of mindfulness that I truly

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<v Speaker 1>do believe begins with making your bed when you wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something to that. Also, you're you're correct me if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong on an avocado and coffee ranch. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, I can't think of a place that's

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<v Speaker 1>better than being a farm. Just being connected to the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that help keep you centered? Absolutely? Absolutely. Now, farm work,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as of an ideal it is, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a very challenging thing to maintain and sustain, especially in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything in agriculture in California is is not native. It

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<v Speaker 1>was planted here because the weather is great, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can be able to produce a lot of food and

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<v Speaker 1>flowers and grains and all kinds of things that are

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<v Speaker 1>made in California. But the irony is it requires irrigation

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<v Speaker 1>and it requires a lot of farmer's footsteps. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of just natural food forests happening it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is all designed I guess through generation generations

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<v Speaker 1>of agriculture. Um. So that's the boring part of the answer. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But what it means is living out here is it's challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it requires us to do some work as what

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<v Speaker 1>puts a lot of energy into it, and most the

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<v Speaker 1>other farmers I've met do have second jobs, They have

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<v Speaker 1>multiple loans and leans on their properties, they have mortgages

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<v Speaker 1>because farming itself just doesn't make any money. So I

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<v Speaker 1>always like to stress that when we're talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people want to go and live

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<v Speaker 1>out on a farm and what not, just be mentally

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<v Speaker 1>prepared that it is hard work to live the farm dream.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been very blessed because I have music in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been very successful with my first six albums

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<v Speaker 1>too to be able to afford a beautiful ranch. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we're trying to turn this little ranch into its

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<v Speaker 1>own sustaining business. So let's say that should the music

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<v Speaker 1>industry collapse and we we no longer are selling music

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<v Speaker 1>because everything is free, right, or we no longer are

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<v Speaker 1>doing concerts because there's a pandemic and we just can't breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully my little fruit farm will figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to sustain itself. And what I mean is will the

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<v Speaker 1>fruit ever actually pay for the labor, or will my

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<v Speaker 1>other jobs and my other loans have to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>that labor too. So living on a farm is exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>it's romantic, it's beautiful. Who everything you've just said right

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<v Speaker 1>now is just so tinged with optimism. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tour right now, and the music industry is

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<v Speaker 1>really weird, but I'm gonna do this amazing beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, And that brings me to this album you've

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<v Speaker 1>just made, which it's an album of hope, of optimism,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet you've self identified correct me if I'm wrong

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<v Speaker 1>as a pessimist, Like, how is that? I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe you teach me your ways? How are you

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<v Speaker 1>this this hopeful and optimistic? Ah? Yeah, So the album

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<v Speaker 1>is called Look for the Good, and I sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and I will write a song like that, And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>almost every song I've ever written is kind of through

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<v Speaker 1>that filter of like look for the good? How can

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<v Speaker 1>I look for the goodness? And it's usually because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting in either insecurity or lack of confidence or

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<v Speaker 1>sort of not really knowing what the future holds, And

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<v Speaker 1>so with that you can kind of feel out of balance.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'll sit at an instrument piano or guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll try to sing breathe life into a more

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<v Speaker 1>stable future, or breathe life into love. Romance poetry breathe

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<v Speaker 1>life into um just security, self confidence, things that I'm missing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I use music too basically fill those I guess

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<v Speaker 1>voids in my life. And if it works, if I

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<v Speaker 1>really feel the uplift and the song itself just by

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<v Speaker 1>the use of language, shifts my perspective into one that's

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<v Speaker 1>more confident, more optimistic than I know. I've done my

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<v Speaker 1>job on the piano, or at least the music has

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<v Speaker 1>done its potent alchemy on me, which is what I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it can really do for all of us. In

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<v Speaker 1>that saying, if I believe it can do it for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, that's when I'll take that song and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put it on a record, I'll put it on

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<v Speaker 1>stage because I feel like there there might be some

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<v Speaker 1>medicine in this music, because it worked for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why it is. I have a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of self confidence and insecurities. It's whether it's being rejected

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<v Speaker 1>in I would is uh not the best soccer player

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<v Speaker 1>in fourth grade and I remember kind of being heartbroken

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of the field, and like those little

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<v Speaker 1>moments when you're seven, eight, nine years old, they have

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge impact on you and they start to

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<v Speaker 1>shape what you believe about yourself, and then however your

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<v Speaker 1>parents may have treated you, or your siblings may have

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<v Speaker 1>treated you, or people at school or teachers, etcetera piles on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as an adult, I'm still having to basically

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<v Speaker 1>try to prove myself on the soccer field. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>make sense? Oh? Absolutely. I mean there's a reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a pink shirt right now. I'm wearing it in

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<v Speaker 1>your honor. Thank you? Think um if reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>the album's closing track, Gratitude, which you express gratitude for

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<v Speaker 1>for so many things, including you know, like bullies when

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<v Speaker 1>you were seventeen, which is just looking for things from

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<v Speaker 1>such a positive place. Can you tell me about that song?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what kind of had a long gestation period. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um again, look for the how can I look for

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<v Speaker 1>the good in everything? And when I was a senior

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<v Speaker 1>in high school, it's especially my senior year. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>even starting the year going wow, I didn't get beat

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<v Speaker 1>up because my first year of ninth grade, driving to

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<v Speaker 1>school with my friend Brad, he said, hey, man, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get your ass beat every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just part of high school. And so I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was terrified of high school. And then in my

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<v Speaker 1>and then in my senior year, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty cool guy. I've done all the plays and

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<v Speaker 1>and proved myself to be you know, have friends at

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<v Speaker 1>all the different cafeteria tables, you know. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gloating, like, wow, I never got my ass kicked.

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<v Speaker 1>I did pretty good in high school. And then like

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<v Speaker 1>a week later, Uh, I got a series of beat

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<v Speaker 1>downs and slams up against the locker. One was off

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<v Speaker 1>site at school, offside of school grounds. That was pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of it was just jealous guys because I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing well and I all my friends were their girlfriends,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just wanted to put me in their place.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, as as I continue to write songs in

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<v Speaker 1>my adult life, how can I look back at those

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<v Speaker 1>moments and see them as beneficial to who I am today?

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<v Speaker 1>So I have to say thank you for those experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, here we are still taking time on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast to talk about those little moments. So those moments

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<v Speaker 1>are still contributing to my life today. And the song

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<v Speaker 1>Gratitude UH actually began out of that um that instant,

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<v Speaker 1>those instances in high school and when I have a

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<v Speaker 1>little seed like that, then I can't wait to turn

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<v Speaker 1>something into a song. Um. So I also thought about

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<v Speaker 1>the rejection and the song also used to have other

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<v Speaker 1>verses in it. And that's the typical of songwriting, is

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<v Speaker 1>I'll overwrite a song or I'll do multiple rites and

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<v Speaker 1>things just kind of end up on the cutting room

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<v Speaker 1>floor eventually. But this, this song actually began even probably

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<v Speaker 1>when I was first starting to write songs for love

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<v Speaker 1>as a four letter word, and unfortunately just it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>fully realized ten years ago. And when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio last year working on this new reggae album

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<v Speaker 1>with Michael Goldwasser and Raining Jane and some amazing musicians,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have this gratitude song idea. Um. Another great songwriter,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Morris, and I had gotten together maybe in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fIF and spun an idea around the gratitude song, but

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<v Speaker 1>again it never never saw the light. So it had

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<v Speaker 1>just been kind of hanging around one of the many

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<v Speaker 1>posted notes on the wall about potential song ideas someday.

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<v Speaker 1>And this album Look for the Good was just the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect final like package that Gratitude finally fit in and

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<v Speaker 1>it finally found its home, you know, I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of the title, and I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded familiar, and then it finally clicked. It reminded me

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<v Speaker 1>of Mr Rogers, sort of looked for the Helpers. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've actually seen that Mr Rogers was a big influence

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<v Speaker 1>on you morally and spiritually, at least as you made

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<v Speaker 1>this album right. Absolutely, And you know, I always knew

0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy was onto something, but the lad a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, there's been some great documentaries about the man

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<v Speaker 1>and books and articles, and I kind of got reacquainted

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<v Speaker 1>with him over the last five years and was very

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by how he chose to use the power of television,

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<v Speaker 1>how he chose to use that to get to people's feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>And about five years ago, I was visiting a middle

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<v Speaker 1>school and I met the counselor and I said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you need. What's a common request that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to make your life better or make the

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<v Speaker 1>students lives better? And she goes, you know what, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have Mr Rogers anymore. And by the time a

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<v Speaker 1>student gets even to elementary school, if they have emotional problems,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost too late to start to address them. In

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<v Speaker 1>the old days, Mr Rogers would address those from a

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<v Speaker 1>very young age and basically give kids counseling before they

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<v Speaker 1>ever showed up in school. And she was right. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>very inspired by him of the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do believe it has affected my work from

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<v Speaker 1>the No album with the Habit All track and what

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to do on that album to look for

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<v Speaker 1>the Good and the messages we're trying to do here,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're right, look for the Helpers is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>what inspired this song. Um Nelson Mandela's famous quote it

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<v Speaker 1>always seems impossible until it's done inspired this song. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Goldwasser sent me the song title look for the

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<v Speaker 1>Good after he'd heard it sermonized at his synagogue by

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<v Speaker 1>his rabbi, who said, look for the good and you

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<v Speaker 1>will find the good. Look for the bad and you

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<v Speaker 1>will find the bad. So how do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend your time? You know? And Uh, that to me

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<v Speaker 1>is like that's songwriting. That's what we do in the

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<v Speaker 1>song is we want to highlight those little moments in

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<v Speaker 1>life so that we can cherish those moments forever and

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<v Speaker 1>really make them feel big. Using the song for good,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean use it for the theme for the Food

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<v Speaker 1>for Heroes program in New York City, which provides food

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<v Speaker 1>for essentral healthcare workers and an essential personnel. How did

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<v Speaker 1>have that come to be? And what's been that that's

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<v Speaker 1>experience been? Like? That was that came right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gates, because apparently someone in the Mayor's office of

0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.320
<v Speaker 1>New York is a big fan. So the minute we

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<v Speaker 1>put the song out there, like, oh my gosh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is so in alignment with what we're doing right now.

0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Can we use this song? I said absolutely, So we

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<v Speaker 1>all signed off. Just play the song, do what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. Let's raise some awareness and money for

0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>your your essential workers. They're feeding feeding healthcare workers, which

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty awesome. You released the album on June this year,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a very important charge day. Tell me a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit that decision. Yeah, man, so you know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>honestly never even heard of Juneteenth. That was not something

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<v Speaker 1>that was taught to me in my high school government

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<v Speaker 1>or Civics or history classes about I don't know. Six

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<v Speaker 1>months ago we decided, yeah, we'll put the album out

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer June Nineteenth looks great. We'll do Today's

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<v Speaker 1>show on June one. Like when you're putting music out,

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<v Speaker 1>you lay out a whole schedule of promotional events. Well,

0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the world's had its eyes opened, America started getting education,

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<v Speaker 1>including myself, and we realized, oh my gosh, our album

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<v Speaker 1>is scheduled on this very historic day. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't I don't want to not

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<v Speaker 1>put my album out because I feel like the lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>and the songs of this sing about the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>world we're working towards, a more equal and just and

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<v Speaker 1>fair world. And I can't just have an album about

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<v Speaker 1>these lyrics and these ideas without doing something. So I

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<v Speaker 1>reallocated my royalties that had already earned through the advance

0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that I got um with BMG, and uh, six different

0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.880
<v Speaker 1>organizations received the total sum of two or fifty dollars already,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes me feel great because I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>album now also serves that purpose of advancing a quality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've been hearing about reparations, You've been hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about redistribution of wealth, You've been hearing about socialism. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Bernie Sanders supporter, and who am I if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not actually donating and volunteering and doing that work to

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<v Speaker 1>help society breathe easier. I'm beautiful thing that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to read the names of the organizations you donate to

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if if I if I miss any, just

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<v Speaker 1>in case anyone listening also wants to contribute. San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>Young Artist Music Academy, Rise, San Diego Grassroots Law Project,

0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Center on Policy and Initiatives, and Equal Justice Initiative, and

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter. I leave those are the six that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing so much. I feel sort of almost bad asking

0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.359
<v Speaker 1>you this question, Uh, what else are you doing? Let

0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.800
<v Speaker 1>me let me rephrase that. What are you working on that? Musically?

0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I read that you have a second reggae project in

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<v Speaker 1>the works. Yeah. So when we made this new album,

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<v Speaker 1>we assembled a phenomenal band, some guys that had toured

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<v Speaker 1>with me, some guys that have been working with Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Goldwasser in the past, and I just I want to

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<v Speaker 1>play more music with these guys. We're gonna tour next

0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>year on this album, and we thought, heck, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>another session before we hit the road, just so we

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<v Speaker 1>can continue to build our catalog of some great songs,

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<v Speaker 1>old and new using these these new reggae arrangements. So

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<v Speaker 1>definitely working on that. I've been working on some some

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<v Speaker 1>holiday musical comedies for a holiday coming soon. Uh. And

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:33.280
<v Speaker 1>then recently, this bizarre gig I got during quarantine came

0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 1>from PBS and the creators of The Masked Singer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This weird reality show which I do not like the

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<v Speaker 1>show title at all, but it's called Celebrity Show Off

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about different households competing for the best television

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<v Speaker 1>show that you can produce in a week. And we

0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, we compete and if you know, if your

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<v Speaker 1>show is not great, you get kicked off the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh I. I I kind of rejected it at first, like, yeah,

0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll do one or two episodes, And now I'm shoot,

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm six episodes deep into a full season almost, and uh,

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.159
<v Speaker 1>but it's cool. I've learned a lot about film production

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and how to make movies on an iPhone and uh.

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.600
<v Speaker 1>And in that I get to write short, little musical

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<v Speaker 1>comedies as well and try to be a goofy Mr

0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Rogers character, which you know we were just talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You've said that this Quarantine has been a gift in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways. Why is that? What's been the silver lining

0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of this for you? Oh man, I've never been home

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<v Speaker 1>this much, and that is a gift because I just

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm such a transient. I've been living out of a

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<v Speaker 1>suitcase since I was by eight years old. That this year,

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean ship man, I'll probably home for most of

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the year. I've been here since March and doesn't look

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like I'm going anywhere anytime soon. I've learned how to

0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>play the piano this year, which feels great. I mean,

0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:58.919
<v Speaker 1>I could cheat it a little bit, but I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm finally in confident um and that's been

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<v Speaker 1>a gift because I've been stuck at home and at

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<v Speaker 1>piece of advice. Right at the beginning of all this

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<v Speaker 1>is someone said, hey, man, just master whatever's in front

0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of you, and if you're impatient, master your patience. All right,

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.199
<v Speaker 1>For me, I was afraid or or I couldn't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>myself just sitting at a piano bench and practicing scales

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<v Speaker 1>and things that to me was always boring ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was five years old. I didn't want to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and here I am almost forty five, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that. So this year I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna master that. I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>learn something. And that's how I have to look at

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<v Speaker 1>it as a gift, you know. I I like to

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<v Speaker 1>also hope that the piano is getting a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of mitigation and remediation through our being at home and

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.920
<v Speaker 1>are traveling less and are consuming less. But I don't

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.160
<v Speaker 1>know if that's really true. You know. I think we're

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>also still drilling in the Arctic, and the Arctic is

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<v Speaker 1>on fire, and we're all still ordering from Amazon. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the world's any better that we're at home.

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But I can skitterly do you a piano song before

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<v Speaker 1>before we explode. Uh So, I guess that's a gift.

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say. I noticed a lot of like

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<v Speaker 1>Fender Rhodes runs and stuff on this new album. Is

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that you playing that? I feel felt more keyboard having.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I gotta tell you, it's not It's not me. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I I can I can slowly fake you a solo

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:38.359
<v Speaker 1>on the roads. But my friend Daniel Mandelman played the

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<v Speaker 1>Rhods on this record, and he just crushed crushes anything

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>he plays. He's a one tape guy too, man. He'll

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>he'll whip you up a solo or a second or

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>do it, do what you take for you and we'll say, hey, man,

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>do you want to give us another one? He's like, nah,

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that one's pretty good, and well listen to it,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, that's pretty amazing. Where I think we're done.

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 1>It's so it's so wonderful. So I aspire to be

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like Daniel. Thanks Daniel. It's gonna say. It sounds like

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you're getting there. Oh that's so you got piano. That's

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.159
<v Speaker 1>that's a wonderful thing. What are some of your other

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.679
<v Speaker 1>favorite distractions during this time, the things that you know,

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of get you out of yourself for a minute.

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Weed good answer. Thank you California for legalizing recreational cannabis,

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>because um, that's they dispensaries were one of the um

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>businesses on the essential list right away. They never closed

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and in the strip malls where we have dispensaries, they

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 1>are slammed. I mean business in and out all day long,

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee it. And it's so sad because you know,

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the little sandwich shop next door or the nail salon

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>next door, etcetera just shut down and the weed businesses

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>are just cranking. Just goes goes to show you how

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 1>many people are self medicating and or having a pretty

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>good time, Uh, during quarantine. Uh, you know, that's that's

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>always been my my, my wine. At the end of

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the day, it's just twist up a little dupe and

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 1>then um, if I'm not careful, a musical comedy will

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>break out. So I try not to overdo it because

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I can only write to so many musical comedies per day.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that something you would ever get into in an

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>agricultural sense, like on on your farm. Uh No, not

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>just yet, because it's not federally regulated still, like, which

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>is so crazy. At any time, unmarked federal agents could

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 1>appear in your city. That would never happen, um, and

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 1>they could destroy your plants, you know, or they could

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>seize your property or something. So it's to me, it's

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not really a safe agricultural bet just yet, even

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.880
<v Speaker 1>though plenty of huge corporations are making billions of dollars

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>off cannabis, while many small time cannabis offenders still sit

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in jail, which is uh, which is totally bizarre. And

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>if I were to have a crop, let's say, I

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 1>would also need to promote that crop, right like Willie

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Nelson has a has a weed strain right or a

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>weed variety? Um, I still want to stay in that Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers Lane. I still would love to be on Sesame

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<v Speaker 1>Street again. So with that, I'm not going to put

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<v Speaker 1>my name on like a strain of Jason Miraza's purple

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<v Speaker 1>icky sticky uh titty twister thirty three percent th h C.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm just I can't see my name and

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>face on a on a sticky butt just yet because

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather be hanging out with Oscar the Grouch And

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, And I don't think I

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can do both just yet, even though

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Oscar the Grouch does look just like a nug of weed.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, there's our ad break right now. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theory that we just unveiled Oscar the Grouch?

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Is he really just a weed dealer? Can we get

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that trending? Please? All right? I definitely just got kicked

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>off a Sesame Street forever. Thank you hashtag Oscar the

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>nug Oh man, Oh you know what, we could have

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>an indocou stran called Oscar the Couch. Are you sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're not want to go into this business because this

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>is not good? Yeah? Man, I might have to. Hey,

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>if looks like this year then yeah, forget about I'm

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna just go into the weed business. I get

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta ask you, and I'm sure you get this

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I spent a number of years as a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding deed jay in college and I can't tell you

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the number of times that people ask me to play

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>yours is the their first dance. How does that feel

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to have something so personal like a song? And I

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 1>can't write songs. I don't know what that feels like,

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>so I know it's gonna be I imagine it has

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to be pretty personal to be embraced by so many

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<v Speaker 1>millions and have it be such a huge part of

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. I mean, you know, first dance. Yeah, it's

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>crazy because most people don't realize that song is about

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>a breakup and it's about devil worship. No, I'm just kidding.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not about either of those things. It's about finding love,

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>everlasting love. Um, it's a high honor. Man. You'd ever

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>know where a song is going to end up. I

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>mean I didn't even know the song would end up

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>on an album when I wrote it, But over time,

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>audiences loved it and it always felt good to sing,

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>so it ended up on an album, and it just

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>kept getting played and played, and um, you know, I

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>didn't really come up with the words I'm yours. It's

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>written on a Valentine's heart. You can eat them. They're

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>crappy little candies that you eat every every Valentine. But

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>it was written in such an honest moment, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>um reconnect with the thing I love the most, which

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<v Speaker 1>is losing myself in a song, like giving myself away

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to something so hard that I don't even experience myself anymore.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just saying I'm yours, like I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even exist anymore because I am now eternally connected to source,

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to something greater. And so of course that's what you'd

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>want on your wedding day, is to look into your

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>partner's eyes and say, I am giving myself to you

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and now we are just going to be one entity

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.479
<v Speaker 1>and and you are going to source me, et cetera,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>which is heavy on our wedding day. Also beautiful, but

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>also beautiful. Yeah, man, So I'm thrilled about that. And

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.479
<v Speaker 1>I've been to some weddings and heard my music come on.

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I usually step out. I usually go out to the

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>bathroom or I go get a re phil. It's hard

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to just kind of sit and listen to something or

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>or even like be on the dance floor and rock

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<v Speaker 1>out to myself. I don't know why that is. Like

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I could be on stage and rock it out for you,

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to. It's so weird, right although,

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, I'll admit it right now. I

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>could do it with the new album, with the reggae album.

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>If someone put it on, I'd walk into and be like, yeah,

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>turn it up. I just love the sound of this record.

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael Goldwasser knocked it out of the park sonically, and

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Berkeley, who recorded it here in our studio, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to give him a shout out. Is it true

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that that your Your Home studio was based loosely on

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>on Bob Marley's Home? Is that it is? Yeah? In

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand three, I was touring a lot on my

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>first album, and things were going well, and I was

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>still living in an apartment in Los Angeles, and I'd

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>come home for these little short weekends or two week

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>breaks from tour in my little apartment in l A.

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, Okay, it's time, like I'm i gotta find

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<v Speaker 1>like a little space, a little house somewhere, just I

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>can't have neighbors right behind mine on the other side

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>of the wall. And I went to Jamaica to do

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a track with Sly and Robbie, and while I was there,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I took a tour of Bob Marley's house on Hope Road,

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>which is now in a museum. And a fun story

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>about this story is I was working with Grace Vanderwald once,

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<v Speaker 1>who was an amazing young ukulele player, and I was

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>telling her about the time I visited Bob Marley's house,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>which is a museum now, and she was waiting Bob

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Marley's house is a museum. I was like, yeah, well,

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>when he passed away his estate his family decided they

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>would turn it into She was wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Bob Marley is dead. And I thought, oh my gosh,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, you guys, I'm the person responsible for

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>telling Grace Vanderwald Bob Marley is out of town forever. Um.

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't a great moment. Man. Back to the real story.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.959
<v Speaker 1>I visited Bob's home and for a young kid in

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>his mid twenties who was trying to imagine what a

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>house or a home could feel like seeing this house

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>that Bob that they said all of the whalers would

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>move in and they'd be able to live and rehearse

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>together and eat together and be totally immersed in the music.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>That little studio in the backyard. They had fruit trees

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and herb garden. It was a compound. It was a

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>community center. And I thought, that is cool. That sounds

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>very Zoolander. Yeah, And I came home from that trip

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and I just started looking around, and I looked on

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the fringe of San Diego, where in San Diego was

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of the town where I started my career, and

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I still had coffee shops there that I frequent and

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>lots of friends and songwriters in the area. Still close

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>enough to l A. But I didn't have to do

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>l A or be in that world. So I found

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a little fringe farm on the outskirts of San Diego,

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>just a small little property that had some fruit trees,

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh, I've been here ever since, sixteen years

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and a few years into living out here. At first

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>we had the studio in the house and the whole

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>band moved in and we made Mr. A to Z

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that my second album, kind of mostly in the house,

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and then built a studio in my backyard and did

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the work, shopping and demos for we seeing,

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>we dance, We steal things, And then same every album.

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I would just continue to chip away at the studio

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>and use it as a workspace and kind of a

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>workshop where I would build bird houses essentially. But my

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>bird houses are these little songs, and I could come

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>in at all hours and just chip away at at

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a variety of things. And but this album was the

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>first time I ever did all the tracks here, um,

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>which was very, very exciting. You know. It took fifteen

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>years to finally get to a place where the studio

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>was in a shape where I could support the band

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>feel good about the quality of the recordings. Um, and uh,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>yeah we did it. Thanks Bob, Thanks for Bob and

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the Whalers and Bunny Whaler and and uh the Tough

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Cong crew for making Bob's home a museum to inspire

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a young person like me to try to grow up

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and continue the positive vibes that Bob and his music

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>was making as well. So I see it. I see

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.479
<v Speaker 1>our effort as a as a tribute to what they

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>were up to. You made your dream. That's incredible. Yeah, man, thanks,

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it's and I'm trying to make it a dream for

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>others too. There's a lot of people that get to

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>live and work here that are all doing their version

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of that dream, whether you're an engineer or a drummer

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>or um into agricultures. A lot of young people that

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>work in agriculture here. So it feels good. And I

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>know this place is gonna outlive me. You know, when

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you plant a tree, it's going to outlive you. That's

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>just the nature of trees. When you write a song,

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it's going to outlive you. All of our favorite song

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>or most of our favorite songs might be by artists

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>who are no longer on the planet anymore. But thank

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>goodness for recorded music. It gets to continue to inspire us.

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And thank goodness for mother nature who continues to grow

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>these avocados trees outside our studio. They were planted in

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the early seventies before I was even born, so I

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>can't really take credit for the fruit that's growing. I

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>just I'm just lucky enough to live here. Jason, Thank

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 1>you for your time, your music, your avocados. My last

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>question when this pandemic is over you can snap your

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>fingers and have everything go right back to normal. Whatever

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>normally is. What's the first thing you would do? Trips,

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you would take people, you'd hug meals, you'd go out

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and eat. What's what's the first thing you want to do?

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>The first thing is organized a big tour. Um he

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what I would do. Call every musician, Call the crew,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>call my dad, called the bus drivers. Um, Charlie quick,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope you do it well. I heard you in

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a car accident. I hope your shoulders doing better. Buddy,

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Charlie has been my driver for fifteen years on on

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>tour buses. It's just amazing. Guy. Um, I would call

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody man because that's what we really do. I feel,

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>um as that's our jobs. We we are a traveling circus,

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>were showmen, were entertainers, and when we go to small

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>towns and all over the country, I feel like we

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:14.720
<v Speaker 1>um we stir up hopefully positive vibes and maybe even

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>add some some juice to the local economies when we tour.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I asked Willie Nelson once, why do you still tour

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>after all these years? He said, you know, it gives

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>people jobs. It's it It matters to people. So and

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>plus the joy that you get for those two hours

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>when you just crank up the apps and the sound

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.479
<v Speaker 1>system and you rock the house and you surf those

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>giant waves of music. There's nothing like it. There's no

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>other job quite like it. So that's the first thing

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I do. The minute they say we can go back

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to life is normal. Uh, I'm gonna hit the road.

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go on a long, juicy tour. Jason can't

0:35:51.000 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>wait to get you back out there. Thanks Buddy, We

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