1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Tyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the five and end 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: of the end zone for the touchdown. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Pacificoffice dot com. Problem solved Garrison ties for the en zone, 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: he said, touchdown. The latest news and notes from the 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray, that defender is in multiple pieces. All 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: that was nasty right there, right slam on the ground 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: by fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody. 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic. 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: I think we're good to go here on Cardinals Underground. 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure. Darren Is he's got out of 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: his kid over here. He's got the ultimate set of tools. 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: His dad's a TV repair man and he's fixing things 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: on the fly. Hashtag more you can do. That's Darren. 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: My father's no longer with us. 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Paul Danny Sirek over there and Paul Calvic over here. 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: There's the guy I wish I was, And then apparently 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: I was that guy. According to Jonathan Gannon, the guy 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: I wish I was is you see this one? A 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: German Man has won over fifteen million dollars after he 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: discovered a forgotten lottery ticket in his coat pocket six 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: months after he bought it. That was fortuitous that he 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: looked in the coat pocket. 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: You don't seem like someone who would buy a lottery ticket. Uh, 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: seems like too much risk reward for you? 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 5: Is that is that on par? 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: I do outsource it to the eighteen year old punk 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: if he's out and about and you know there's a 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: nice uh you know, eye catching total in the powerball? 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: Sure? 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: Why not? Your son's eighteen now he actually just turned nineteen. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: Oh a three year old punk is now nineteen. So yeah, 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: a moment of silence right there. That is a sobering moment, 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: SOT Like when Jonathan Gannon referenced after the Thursday night game, Yeah, 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: I got asked on the radio by he didn't actually 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: fill in the blank like maybe cam Or did. Yeah, 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: there was a got asked this question, So Danny I 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: sort of revisited that question on his TV show this week. 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Do you think the question was out of line? JG 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: might have been nice on camera. Was it out of 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: line for me to wonder about the state of the team, 47 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: Psyche when you just lost back to back division games 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: in the span of five days on walk off field 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: goals And there are different stats on that. One stat 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: said this first time it's happened to the Cardinals since 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight. Another stat said it's the first time 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: it's happened to any team walk off field goals in 53 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: the final play two games in a row since nineteen 54 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: seventy five games apart, five games apart, or five days apart. 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yes, so there's all these Anyway, it's been 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: a long time. 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: That's a very valid question to have those types of 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 4: life where it's dejecting and San Francisco Cardinals had the 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: lead late in the game and then San Francisco was 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: able to move the chains enough to make that field 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 4: goal somewhat similar. 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: Are still some differences though. 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: Thursday Night hosting the Seahawks, in the sense that the 64 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: Cardinals were the team that were making a pushback late 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: in the game, you tie the game at twenty the 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: kickoff is just shy the landing zone, which gives the 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: Seahawks a pretty significant advantage in field positioning, and then 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: they're able to have that walk off field goal either way, 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: both dejecting losses for a team that was in it 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: until the very end. That is fair because now this 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: team is two and two, which isn't necessarily something to 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: sound the alarms about. But when you're looking at the 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: statistics of how this league has shaken out over many decades, 74 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: teams that start zero to two in the division have 75 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: just a ten percent chance of making the playoffs. It's 76 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: not zero. That's not something to be up in arms about. 77 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: It's more so when you're looking with the eye test 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: of how this team has played offensively. They looked really 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: good in the fourth quarter against Seattle, where that was 80 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: the first three quarters. 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: I just is it me or do we I think 82 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: back to what was it Buffalo Kansas City in the 83 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: playoffs where Buffalo or Kansas City scored with like seventeen 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: seconds on the clock and they managed to get down 85 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: the field and get a fiel out. Like I know, 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: a lot of it has to do with the length 87 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: of field, goals these days. But it feels like as 88 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: long as there's twenty seconds on the clock, that's dangerous anymore. 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Somebody needs to run the stat hint, hint, Craig Grielho was, 90 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: somebody needs to figure out the first four games of 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: the season, every single minute has counted for the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, 92 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 2: now there was the Carolina game where maybe the last 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: two plays but it was still within the final minute 94 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: were nil downs. Yeah, but I mean think of some 95 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: of the drama. Right, even in the Carolina game, there 96 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: was in completion on fourth and sixteen, remember that to 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: number eighty seven, Everyone's like, who the X eighty seven 98 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: for Carolina? Then you add the game against the forty nine, 99 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: or there was a fourth and two sort of no 100 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: risk it, no biscuit and Mac Jones goes up top 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: to Ricky pearsall right, and then that ends up resulting 102 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: in a game winning Fueld goal. And then this time 103 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: around he had a fourth down catch by Michael Wilson 104 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: that was crazy. But there was Jackson Smith and Jigma 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: with a big chunk catch in the final game winning 106 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: touchdown drive. So I mean every two hundred and forty 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: minutes of football and every single minute the game is 108 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: hung in the balance. So far in twenty twenty five, 109 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: part of that. 110 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: Is encouraging the parts where the Cardinals have been out. 111 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: I mean, the broadcast against Seattle Thursday night said at 112 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: one point the Cardinals had as low of a three 113 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 4: point six percent chance of coming back to win the game. 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: They were down twenty to six at one point. So 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: that's the positive as this team has shown the resiliency, 116 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: resiliency and they've shown their grit to come back on 117 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: the other end, and the games where they have had 118 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: the league had the lead, the teams have been able 119 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: to make a push and make it a close game. 120 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: And we heard when the team was two to zero 121 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: after beating the Panthers and the Saints that they didn't 122 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: want their defense on the field, they wanted their offense. 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: So there's been room for improvement from week one. 124 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you guys are in the locker room every opportunity 125 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: you can with the media, give me your read. Start 126 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: with you, Darren. Do you think there's a bit of 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: a guilt complex right now by the offense that they're 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: letting the defense down. 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: I would say generally yes. I mean there weren't. 130 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: Because Kyler cites it repeatedly. Right, Well, we watched the 131 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: defense get stops and then we can't say. 132 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: Said that in his press conference, He's like, defense gets 133 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: stop after stop after stop after stop, and then we're 134 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: not holding up our end of the bargain. I'll be honest. 135 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: Like the way the locker room emptied pretty fast. I mean, 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 3: if you were in there for Gannon, who I thought 137 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: was really good after the game in terms of what 138 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 3: he said, but it was a little longer than normal, 139 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: and then Kyler literally came in right after him. If 140 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: you're in there for those two things, which I was, 141 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: by the time you get in the locker room, we 142 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: get like there's like five minutes there's no players. So 143 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: I can't give a good sense of what the locker 144 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: room was like necessarily after that game. I mean I 145 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: heard some of the stuff that was said when I 146 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: wasn't in there. Yeah, I think the offense is definitely 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: feeling it a little bit, and they should, quite frankly, 148 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: because of how these games have gone and how different 149 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: it would have been if the offense is just scoring 150 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: one more touchdown a game, just one that said I 151 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: disagree with the people that say that the locker room's 152 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: falling apart, and then the defense has got to be 153 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: angry at the offense. I don't get that sense. I 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: think the defense understands number one, that there's been a 155 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: couple of misopportunities for them too. I mean, you can't 156 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: give up game winning field goals on the last play 157 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: of the game if as a defense, you haven't already 158 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: given up some yards right before that. And the reality 159 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: is is the defense did its job at the end 160 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: of the Saints game at the end of the Panthers game. Yes, 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: the offense should have done a lot more in the 162 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: other two games, but the defense was there to get 163 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: a chance to save both those games and they weren't 164 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: able to do it. 165 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: And mis kalaeis lamented. On Monday of this week, you 166 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: gave up a buck fifty five on the ground, You 167 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: give up more than one hundred and fifty yards rushing, 168 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: And the defense doesn't feel as good about itself as 169 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: maybe they might considering their number six right now in 170 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: terms of being a scoring defense in the NFL. So 171 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: you've been a top five scoring defenser right there about 172 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: the entirety of the season. So do they have things 173 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: to clean up on the defensive side, and no doubt, 174 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: if they suffered injuries, absolutely, but they've played well enough 175 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: to win every single game. Now, the question is did 176 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: you find something offensively in that fourth quarter that continues 177 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: over into week five, because we know what it looked 178 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: like the first three quarters. Kyler Murray, if we were 179 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: talking about Kyler, had a couple of key quotes. One 180 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: the offense's quote too all over the place, and then 181 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: the other quote is bleep is loading it's taking too long, 182 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: which I brought up on the Red Sea Report. Reminded 183 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: me of the infamous Josh Rosen quote early in his 184 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: Cardinals career, which was a quick career in the NFL period, 185 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: but he used the term buffering. I'm looking at these 186 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: exotic defenses in these disguises in the secondary, and I'm 187 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: buffering meaning I'm hesitating. 188 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was about himself, whereas I felt like 189 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: the Kyler quote was a bigger Yes, sure, no doubt. 190 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's not wrong though, So was it just 191 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: urgency in the fourth quarter? Did they find something in 192 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: the four For example, how many teams have gone tempo 193 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals and it's been pretty successful at times, 194 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Cardinals went Temple in that fourth quarter, Bam, all of 195 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: a sudden two touchdown drives. 196 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: I'll be curious to see, moving forward with some of 197 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: the health questions on this team, how different the offense looks. 198 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: Because it was the game plan going into Seattle to 199 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: run eleven personnel more where you have three receivers. That's 200 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: not the norm for this Cardinals offense. They only had 201 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: three tight ends out there twice, which which is also 202 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 4: not the norm. And that was the plan going into 203 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: the game. And then you factor in the fact you 204 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 4: don't have running back James Connor, and so now you're 205 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: relying on Trey Benson to step up and try to 206 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: get things going in a run game that even with Connor, 207 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: was not getting going. You need to be able to 208 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: take some positives away from what you saw from your 209 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: receivers in eleven personnel more so than you have. 210 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 5: During the season. 211 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 4: What's frustrating is that they only seem to get things 212 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: going in the fourth quarter. That's where Marvin Harrison Junior 213 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: was unlocked. Harrison had four catches on four targets for 214 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,119 Speaker 4: forty two yards. 215 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 5: In a touchdown. 216 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: Not just Harrison, but what about the rest of the 217 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: receivers for the first three quarters. That's where the sense 218 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: of urgency came from. Was, Holy smokes, we have to 219 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: absolutely get something going if we want to have any 220 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: chance at winning this game. That's what you need to 221 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: carry over. The passing game is going to have to take. 222 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to take a closer look at the 223 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: passing game as a run first offense when the run 224 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: game is not getting going. 225 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: Here here is my hesitation. I'm a hesitation, But like 226 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: I know, the Gannon has said a couple of times 227 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 3: the margins or this is where we're talking about in 228 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 3: the margins or whatever. Coaches might have said this. And 229 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 3: there are two examples two it could be three, really 230 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: three examples of this is why I don't I think 231 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: it's a lot more nuanced than everybody wants to say. 232 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: They want to say, get rid of certain coaches. They 233 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: want to say, change the offense. They want to say, 234 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: change the play calling. They want to say, feed this 235 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: guy to that guy. Why did they come back? Okay, 236 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: they had to make place right. So Marvin Harrison high 237 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: points a touchdown catch, fantastic catch Againstspoon. What we've been 238 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: waiting to see. He did. Moss them. If Devin Witherspoon 239 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: breaks that pass up, I'm not blaming Kyler, I'm not 240 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: blaming Marvin. That's a good play by the defense. But 241 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: he didn't, and all of a sudden you have seven 242 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 3: points when maybe you wouldn't have. Final drive, Michael Wilson 243 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: makes an incredible one hand to catch on fourth down 244 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: that if it doesn't happen, that game's over. And that 245 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: is not a catch you can replicate. If that falls incomplete, 246 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: we're having a whole different discussion. But he makes that play. 247 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: And then later in that drive, Marvin Harrison I think 248 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: it was this drive makes the back shoulder on the 249 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: falling on his ass on the sideline to set up 250 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: the touchdown catch, a play that they have not hooked 251 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: up on a loft. But he made that play. So 252 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: there's are three catches that we're sitting back big picture 253 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: and saying, well, maybe they should just throw the ball more. 254 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: See what happens when they have tempo. Well, see what 255 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: happens when they all make amazing plays too. Like I 256 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: guess I get a little frustrated. I get where people 257 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: are saying, maybe you should do some of this, or 258 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 3: maybe you need to and I'm not saying you don't 259 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: look at that stuff, but the margins any one of 260 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: those plays doesn't happen, they're they're the seas are kneeling 261 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: that game out, and we're talking about an offense that 262 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: didn't do anything. 263 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 4: Again, my point on the passing is not so much 264 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: look how good the passing game was just in the 265 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: fourth quarter. It's more so looking at the run game 266 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: that is not nearly as efficient as they were last year, 267 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: which okay, that's last year, right. This is almost an 268 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: identical lineup with personnel even when you had James Connor. 269 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: That That's where I'm saying, okay, you have this time 270 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: you're quarter the way through the season. If the run 271 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: game is not going, is that something as quote unquote 272 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: simple as the blocking schemes, as the communication, something going 273 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: on in the line of scrimmage, or is it more 274 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: where you need to change your philosophy to a certain 275 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: shouldn't say change tweak your philosophy where you're not so 276 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 4: heavy on the run first, you are looking at your 277 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 4: receivers more. 278 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: But I guess my point is I'm not disagreeing with you, 279 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: and I'm maybe I'm speaking more off of you to 280 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: what people I've heard from the fandom, which is you 281 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: can do all that, and then when they run six 282 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: seconds off the clock with three incomplete passes on first, second, 283 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: and third down, everybody is going to blow their mind 284 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: because it's like, why can't we do anything right? And 285 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna obviously I'm exaggerating, but I just think that 286 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: what people want to see is successful offense. They you 287 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: can throw out there what that is, but if it's 288 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: not successful, everybody's gonna be a hater. And if it 289 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: is successful, everyone is see like, this is all you 290 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: needed to do. And I don't think it's that simple. 291 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: I think there are two categories. I know you don't 292 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: want it to be simple. I'm gonna try and keep 293 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: it simple. Two categories. There's correctable and there's concerning. Correctable 294 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: would be drop passes, very correctable, miscommunications correctable, although it persists. 295 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: I get it. There's a lot of exotic defenses. Mike 296 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: McDonald's a master at disguising coverages. He's trying to generate 297 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: these forced errors between the quarterback and the receiver and 298 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: they're very good at it. Are you reading this coverage 299 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: the same way? But then there's some that's maybe not 300 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: as easily correctable, like when Kyler says we got physically 301 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: dominated in the first half. What is the state of 302 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: the offensive line, especially maybe the right side of the 303 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: offensive line. Are they a Simon sound which Jonathan Gannon 304 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: has as which is correctable. So you got to dive 305 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: a little deeper into the offensive line, because can you 306 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: be a run first offense if the offensive line isn't 307 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: quite playing to the level it has the last couple 308 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: of years. And oh, by the way, you don't have 309 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: the identity the run game James Connor for the rest 310 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: of the year. So maybe that is legitimately concerning and 311 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: that's what results or sparks change in the offense, not 312 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: only the philosophy, but even what chapter of the playbook 313 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna use. To Danny's point, fifty four to sixty 314 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: seven snaps in as the Seahawks weren't eleven personnel. 315 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: Which again, when when the coaches talk about matchups matter, 316 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: Gannon was very clear in saying this matchup said, we're 317 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: gonna have a tough time running the ball, So we 318 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: came into it thinking we're gonna pass. 319 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: Don't want to play these guys in a phone booth that's. 320 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: What we're doing. It's interesting you bring up the communication. 321 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon talked about it and we you know, we've 322 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: seen some of the results and talked to some people too. Paul. 323 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: It's like, there's clearly times when the offensive line is 324 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: not communicating correctly and they're putting two bodies on one 325 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: and forgetting about a third. Okay, that is correctable. You 326 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: are right if it happens once, But like I feel, 327 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: if this has happened over four games, where do you 328 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: fall in the correct and that should be correctible after 329 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: one viewing of like how do we do this? But 330 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: it's not so it's like this is. 331 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: That's where it goes from correctable to concerning. That's why 332 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying there's like two categories right now. Look, any 333 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: great team in any sport, really good teams, they have 334 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: different heroes at different times, right, different players making different 335 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: But a hallmark of a losing team any sport is 336 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: that different players are taking their one chance to make 337 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: their one mistake. And too often that has been the 338 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: case with the Cardinals. Now there's still two and two. 339 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: They were right in there. Other the two games they 340 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: lost weren't like they were blowouts. So you like to 341 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: think it's correctable. But if you're getting into week five, 342 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: especially against a Tennessee team in this persist, then all 343 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: of a sudden, okay, it gets into the other category. 344 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: I can tell Darren's itching for a little competition, or 345 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: is he not? Oh, you know what we're gonna We're 346 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: gonna save wise guy. All right, We're gonna pitch it 347 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: over to Danny here for getting culture. Why do I 348 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: screw up the order in what we're gonna do here 349 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: within Cardinals. 350 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: Underdressing, because really we keep the same order everyone. 351 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: It is amazing. 352 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 5: Just hand it to me either way, Paul, Okay, I'll 353 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: take it from there. 354 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: Uh, Danny will segue. 355 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: To here getting cultured with Danny it is not just 356 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 4: directed at Paul. 357 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: Am I the deep fault uncultured philistine around here. 358 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: Yes, he got me very excited. 359 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: Now I am on social media and consume more pop 360 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: culture than both of you combined. 361 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, what go? 362 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: Super Bowl halftime performer has officially been announced. Bad Bunny, Paul, 363 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: you big bad Bunny fan the Puerto Rican He just 364 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: wrapped up his Puerto Rico residency and had a. 365 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 5: Large number of nominees and the Latin Grammys. 366 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: He's really popular, very popular. I have heard of him. 367 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: That's how popular he is. It's always a sign of popularity. 368 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: Not on my Spotify list though, Danny. 369 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: No, Okay, I'll be excited though. 370 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: It'll be cool. And I'm a big fan of his acting. 371 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: To be honest, I like, there's a movie coming out 372 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: where he plays a big role and I forget the 373 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: name of the movie, but it looks it looks good 374 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: and he plays a part in it. And then he's 375 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: been in a lot of Saturay Night Live stuff, which 376 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: has been hilarious. 377 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: Sad news Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman are separating. 378 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: Nicole has made famous see this in the family chat. 379 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: As made famous by the anc theater PSAs we make 380 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 4: movies better. 381 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 3: That's what she's famous. 382 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 4: Now, No, that was joke that went over your head. 383 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: They were married for nineteen years, they've got two kids. 384 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 5: That's pretty sad. You don't seem affected by it. 385 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: No, So it's been it's been two decades since she 386 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: broke up with Tom Cruise. Really at least Okay, didn't 387 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: realize that. By the way, if she's adding to the 388 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: length we have to endure before a movie because there's 389 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: already nine movie previews of play and now if she's 390 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: also in a PSA and then they throw in a 391 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: beverage commercial or three thirty minutes now for real? I mean, 392 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: the best thing about assigned seats in my nineteen year 393 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: old punk does this is they show up thirty minutes 394 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: late to a movie because they really don't care about 395 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: the previews. You have an assigned seat. That is the 396 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: best part about this is movie going here these days. 397 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: I feel bad for my namesake Keith. 398 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 4: Urban similar realm of love and marriage though is Selena Gummez. 399 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 4: She got married to Benny Blanco, the producer over the weekend. 400 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: I don't know who Benny Blanco is. 401 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 5: He's a music producer well. 402 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: Obviously, but that doesn't help me. He's the one person 403 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: you've mentioned today that I don't know. 404 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, we are ending on some good news. I 405 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 4: don't know if you guys saw this. Hunting Tin's disease 406 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: treatment breakthrough. This is this is really good. Huntington's disease 407 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 4: is an inherited condition in which nerve cells in the 408 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: brain break down over time. It's it's described as one 409 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: of the most devastating, devastating diseases. However, recent data from 410 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: treatment has shown that they can slow down at the 411 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: disease by seventy five percent, which is incredible for those 412 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 4: that have been diagnosed with that. And I wanted to 413 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: give a shout out to that. Woh so, way to 414 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: go science. 415 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: Okay, way to go science, winning behavior. 416 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: You're welcome, Yeah, all right, and on a positive right there, 417 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: I like that. 418 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 5: Okay, a little bit different than what I normally cover, 419 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: but no doubt. 420 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: But nonetheless that's actually something people should be cultured about. 421 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: That could have gone in winning behavior as well. So 422 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: there there you go. But see I didn't intro winning behavior. 423 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: I actually try to intro a wise guy. So keep 424 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: up with my mental errors here as we continue with Cardinals. 425 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: Owne no emms, Paul, no mes. 426 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: Okay, from here's my segue from Emmy to MHJH roller coaster. 427 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: It says here hard to dis agree with that comments. 428 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: Now JG did say that he thought Marvin Harrison Junior 429 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: played faster against the Seahawks. Okay, what I had to 430 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: say about this goes something like this. It can't get 431 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: any worse than what happened against the forty nine ers 432 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 2: with the drop and then in primetime and national TV audience, 433 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: the ball glances off your hands into the defender's hands. 434 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: For I mean literally, it can't get any worse. So 435 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: at that point, if Marv is in his own head, 436 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: well you got nothing to lose. Just go ball, just like, 437 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: no trepidation about things going wrong. They've already gone awry 438 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: in an excel way. Just go out and play ball. 439 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: The positive as you saw, the true resiliency and the grit, 440 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 4: the mental fortitude it took for Harrison to get through 441 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: that game. First three quarters good, not just Harrison, the 442 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: offense as a whole, not just the bobble that was intercepted. 443 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 4: The other interception which Murray start to scramble up through 444 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: the pocket. And so when Harrison saw that, he turned 445 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: a break on his route to try and scramble and 446 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: find space, and the unfortunate timing is Murray through the ball, 447 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 4: and it looked as though Harrison just stopped his route 448 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: until you were able to go back watch the film, 449 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: talk to some of the coaches. It's a tough game, 450 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 4: and he's in year two, and whether fans like it 451 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: or not, whether you're impatient or not, it is a 452 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: process for receivers to really blossom in the league. You 453 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 4: look at players like Larry Fitzgerald, who was not a 454 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: star his rookie year. Right look at Harrison's father, Marvin 455 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: Harrison Senior, was not a star his rookie year, went 456 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: on to have a Hall of Fame career. You still 457 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: need the fourth overall pick and you're number one receiver 458 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: to show up in big time moments. I'm not doubting 459 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 4: that the drop passes the babble. You cannot have that 460 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: to see the mental four or two though, to come 461 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 4: back in the fourth quarter and catch all of your targets, 462 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: have that incredible touchdown, and you could see it was 463 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: the weight being lifted off harrison shoulders. We've never seen 464 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 4: him celebrate a touchdown that way, where he's on one leg, 465 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: he's kneeling and he's got his head down, look like 466 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: he's just taking a big sigh, like letting out that 467 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: relief of Okay, I stuck with it. I found the 468 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 4: end zone. That's a tough game, and you do have 469 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 4: to get props for mentally what he was able to 470 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: push through, and you can acknowledge that while also saying 471 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: you need to be better and more consistent for all 472 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: four quarters. 473 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: You know what's amazing is the last three weeks, three 474 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: former Cardinals players who also appear in our broadcasts have 475 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: said the same thing individually about Marvin Harrison Junior, Ron Wolfley, 476 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: Rob Frederickson, Lorenzo Alexander earlier today. 477 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: Who is this Ron Wolfley you speak of? 478 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: Be more demanding. You don't have to be a diva 479 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: as a receiver. You don't have to be that kind 480 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: of receiver, but be more demanding. And what did Drew 481 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: Torell say at the end of last year that he 482 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: tried to implore in the rookie Marvin Harrison Junior, go 483 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: out there, feel yourself or as d. Jeffries used to say, 484 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 2: smell yourself out there. I'm Marvin bleeping Harrison junior. You know, 485 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 2: go ahead and exert yourself and that's sort of or 486 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: carry yourself with that sort of pedigree because you do 487 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: have that sort of talent, you do have that sort 488 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: of potential. You are the number four pick overall. Don't 489 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: defer to anyone again. 490 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: And I brought this up last week when you're talking 491 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 3: about different personalities though, or two weeks ago whenever it was. 492 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I was just as Danny was 493 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: talking about how he doesn't often celebrate. The first thing 494 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: I thought, after that touchdown, Yeah, no, he doesn't often 495 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: celebrate like that because he doesn't often fall in that 496 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: big of a mental hole as he was at that point. 497 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: The other thing, too, is I was kind of like 498 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: making myself kind of smile in my head because I'm like, 499 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: could you imagine if Marvin Harrison Junior had made that 500 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: catch and then run up to the camera and basically 501 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 3: done a Denzel King Kong. Ain't got nothing on me 502 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: kind of like reaction to it, you know, announcing his 503 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: presence with authority. That's not him though, And that's the thing. 504 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: That's the one thing that I remember when Drew Trell 505 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: said it last year, was yeah, you want him to 506 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: be that way. I just don't know if that who 507 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: is who Marvin Harrison is as a person. I think 508 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 3: he's got confidence and I think it will build on this, 509 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: but I don't know if he's ever the guy that's 510 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: gonna walk around saying I'm the muffer around here, get 511 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: out of my way. I and all honesty as polite 512 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: as Larry Fitzgerald would be, and he might have said 513 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 3: thank you afterwards. But even Larry was a guy who 514 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: would be like, I'm an MF or thank you for listening. 515 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: But he might have said that, I don't know if 516 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 3: that's Marvin's thing, And you. 517 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: Know what, that's fine if he's not that way, you know, 518 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: in terms of his personality, especially off the field with 519 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: the media, that sort of thing. I get it, even 520 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: on the sideline, I get it. But when the ball's 521 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: in the air, Larry Fitzgerald was a killer. Yeah, when 522 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: the ball was in the air, he saw dollar signs, 523 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: he saw. 524 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: That's what it was. 525 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: He saw w's you know, he saw endorsements, he saw everything. 526 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: His future was predicated on snagging that football out of 527 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: the air, and he would fight you to the death 528 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: for it, as we saw. 529 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: I agree, and and and hopefully the play and the 530 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: end zone over Witherspoon is kind of what we're going 531 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: to see. And all all you can ask of a player, 532 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: even on this level, is you make the mistake, once 533 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: you learn from it, and then you don't make it again. 534 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 3: And where were we a couple of weeks ago after 535 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: the Carolina game. How come you didn't go up and 536 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: high point the end zone ball? That was almost exact 537 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: same play, and this time he made it work. 538 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: You guys, remember the key to this season that I 539 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: threw out right before the season opener, My. 540 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: Key, like literally the key you had? 541 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the key I had? And uh, you know what, 542 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, Darren, because let's see 543 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: if I'm here for. 544 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: You, Paul I said, just call me the straight guy. 545 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: I sort of cheated because it was sort of a 546 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: big picture key that really involved about a dozen players. 547 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: But here we go. I got the key right here, 548 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: all right. The key to the season was the two 549 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: thousand twenty four draft class. 550 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: Oh that's true, you did say that. 551 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: And their development. So if you're Marvin Harrison junior and 552 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 2: you've been asking yourself, am I legitimate wide receiver? 553 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: One? 554 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: Can I truly excel at this level? Well? 555 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: You just did it. 556 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: You just made a highly contested catch in the end 557 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: zone over one of the top three corners in the game. 558 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: There was some next gen stat there was zero point 559 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: three yards of separation, which was like the second most 560 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: contested catch all year. I have no idea how they 561 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: measure these things. I have no clue, but it's interesting 562 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: to read. And if he wants to put it up 563 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: in his locker, it's if he wants to put it 564 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: up in his locker. So when he looks in the 565 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: little mirror in the locker, he knows, yes, I belong here. 566 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: What was the phrase Isaiah Adams used with the media 567 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: before the season started, or maybe it was during camp, 568 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: he said, you know, there was a point in which 569 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: my rookie year where there was imposter syndrome. You're asking yourself, 570 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: are you truly and AFL caliber player? When he's making 571 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: his second start last year and there's big cat Leonard 572 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: Williams dominating the game in the trenches against Seattle. So 573 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: all these guys have to prove it to themselves. To me, 574 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: that play in the end zone. I think there's already 575 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: enough evidence Marv can play. But maybe that's the convincing 576 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: moment so far in his young career that ends up 577 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: being sort of a pay turning the corner, a pivot 578 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: point of sorts. 579 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 5: I like that this offense targeted him ten targets. That's 580 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 5: what you need. You need to continue to feed the 581 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 5: ball through Harrison. 582 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: That's what the coaches have said, they know that they 583 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 4: are a better offense when they feed the ball through 584 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 4: their number one receiver. Getting those reps is how he's 585 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: going to get better. The chemistry is going to get better, 586 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: the confidence is going to grow. All of those things. 587 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: You just need that more throughout an entire game. What 588 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: I don't appreciate online because we haven't had a podcast 589 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: since Thursday's game. What I don't appreciate online is when 590 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: everybody is clamoring on top of this player and immediately 591 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 4: calling him a bust when he has played one season 592 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: and four games and was it a good game for 593 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: him overall? No, He'll tell you the same thing. But 594 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: if you are going to believe that from having almost 595 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 4: a thousand yard rookie season last year and breaking rookie 596 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 4: records for this franchise, and if you have the eye 597 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: test of seeing how Harrison can play, if after a 598 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: season and four games you're ready to call him a 599 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 4: bus and there's nothing that we can say to change 600 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: somebody's mind, just know that you're wrong. 601 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: Right. You can say that he is room for. 602 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: Improvement and that maybe you're impatient for the process or 603 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 4: you want them to target him more. But to say 604 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: that Harrison is a bust. I don't appreciate that online. 605 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone cares about my opinion that 606 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: that take. 607 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 5: I did not. 608 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: Agree with that for Thursday's game, thank you. And again, 609 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean I was even seeing people on Twitter who 610 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: were saying that during the game. And then Harrison has 611 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: his fourth quarter and I saw someone online, Oh no, no, no, 612 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: like I take. 613 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: It back too late. 614 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 5: Doesn't work. 615 00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: It's out there. 616 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: It's too extreme of a bust is a four letter thing, 617 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: is extreme. But you can't you you can't apply the 618 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: term bust. It's a four letter word. It has to 619 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: be reserved for the most extreme cases. Andy Isabella's I 620 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: second round pick bust? Did he ever have a fourth quarter? 621 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: Like Marvin Harrison Junior? Just did? No, So you gotta 622 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: you gotta reserve the word bust. 623 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 5: Where's my bingo card for? 624 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: And for the most extreme cases. 625 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: Here's here's a good here's a good thought exercise. At 626 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: what point does a is a guy? Where does a 627 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: guy have to be drafted to be a bust? 628 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: Well, okay, here's here's the rub on that. Look at 629 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: everyone drafted after Marvin Harrison Junior Romadonsay is blossoming in 630 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: year two. He has five touchdown catches already. We know 631 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: what Lad McConkie did. We know what my league neighbors did. 632 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: We know what Brian Thomas Junior did. So there are 633 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: a number of receivers after Marvin, and I think that's 634 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: part of the pressure he's feeling. 635 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no. I get that I was doing 636 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: a general thing. This wasn't even about Marvin. Like you 637 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: just said, Isabella as a high second round pick. Like 638 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: to me, you can't be a third round pick and 639 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: be a bust. 640 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 5: Agreed? 641 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: Well, can I bring up Buster Davis as we were 642 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: talking about him about twenty years ago? He was a 643 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: third round linebacker and he didn't make it out. 644 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: There was a fourth round offensive lineman that got cut 645 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: out of a draft pick that got cut out of 646 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: camp once too, and I'm trying to remember he went 647 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: to pit. I think, okay, those are fair if you're 648 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: if you're a draft pick and you're getting if. 649 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: You're a well, even make it out of camp. 650 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: The seventh round pick not making it out of camp 651 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: that big of it. 652 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 653 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: So, Marvin Harrison Junior is not a freaking bust and 654 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: everybody can just shut up about that camp. 655 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: So let's see if I can shut darn up in 656 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: Wise Guy. As long as we're talking about the power 657 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: of recollection. 658 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: Let's see he's on fire with the Segways. 659 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy, the world's Bestest Growing 660 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz Show. The stakes are low, the winner gets 661 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your host. Just swip them upstis Denny's, sir, right. 662 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: Welcome into my favorite time of the week, wise Guy Trivia. Darren, 663 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: you are the reigning champ. I am excited for this. 664 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: We don't play the Tennessee Titans very often, so we 665 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: don't have a lot of Tennessee Trivia questions. 666 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: We'll have to save them up for four years from now. 667 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: Let's go with number four, Danny. 668 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: That's a bad move. That's a bad move, right, Darren's 669 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: out of the gates at a deficit. Here we go. 670 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: Never start with four. 671 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: Okay, four, keep that in mind. 672 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 4: In nineteen sixty four, country music legend Dolly Parton moved 673 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: to Nashville just after finishing high school. Darren is rolling, 674 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: not just his eyes, his whole head. At the start 675 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: of this In nineteen eighty six, Parton became owner of 676 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: an amusement park in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee that is still 677 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 4: in operation today. 678 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 5: What park is it? 679 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: Is it Dollywood? 680 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 5: It sure is well. 681 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: I take back four usually lives up to its reputation 682 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: as being the most difficult. Obviously not this week. I'm sorry. 683 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 5: Okay, you knew that answer, ball I did. 684 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: Yes, so further reinforcing how easy it was, here we 685 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: Golly Parton. Here we go. I mean you know I was. 686 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: I was actually enjoying that till the very end, because 687 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm like Darren, cannot have a catalog of information about 688 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: Dolly Parton. But okay, here we go. Key to victory resilience. 689 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: I have resilience. So to the Cardinals, Let's see what 690 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: I can do here, booda Baker, let's go. 691 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: In twenty ten, the Cardinals and Titans held a joint 692 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 4: practice at the Titans training facility. On that same trip, 693 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 4: the Cardinals held a practice on their own at this 694 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: Nashville based university. 695 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Okay, that was the infamous ESPN just left and the 696 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: Cardinals made a quarterback change. Derek Anderson was installed as 697 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: the starter and Matt Leiner was a YESPN showed up, 698 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: shot a stand up and left, and they missed the 699 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: actual news Vanderbilt University. 700 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 5: Correct, Amon, though, quite the road trip, Paul. 701 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: That that was a road trip. Not long after that, 702 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: Matt Lioner did an unsanctioned press conference at the hotel. 703 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: All right, Danny, here we go. 704 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: Let's go number two. Let's just keep moving up the chain. 705 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: The nineteen ninety nine AFC Wildcard game between the Bills 706 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 4: and Titans ended in dramatic fashion. The Titans won twenty 707 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: two to sixteen on a play famously known as the 708 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 4: Music City Miracle. Kevin Dyson scored the game winning touchdown 709 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: by running seventy five yards after catching a lateral from 710 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: a fellow Titans player. 711 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: Name him what hilarious is? At every step you went, 712 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I know this. Then you named the 713 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: next thing I thought was going to be the answer. 714 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: But I'm still gonna go with Frank whitecheck. 715 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 5: And that was correct, And I knew that one. 716 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 4: I do it, Paul, if you get this, it's a 717 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: tie game. Okay, no pressure, just a lot of pressure. 718 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: Here we go here. 719 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 5: Question number one. 720 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: See if the light don't go off of my head? 721 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 5: This former kicker, Oh you love special teams. Here we go. 722 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: That's true. 723 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: This former kicker play for the Cardinals when the team 724 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 4: made its Arizona debut in nineteen eighty eight. He went 725 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 4: on to play ten years for the Houston Oiler slash 726 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans organization. 727 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, Grimatica. 728 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 4: Al del Greco, Darren with the seal and the win. 729 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: He did not score on the fake field goal. 730 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: There's a pattern here. See Darren is a native and 731 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: I didn't get here till ninety five, So anything from 732 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: eighty eight to ninety five, I'm at a serious deficit. 733 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 3: I was actually supposed to go to the cardinals first 734 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: ever regular season game here in Arizona against the Cowboys 735 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: when al del Greco did the fake field goal right 736 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: before halftime and had no chance because it was like 737 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: forty yards away. I chose not to because I had 738 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: just gone to class that day and didn't want to 739 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: drive all the way back out to the stadium. 740 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 4: Do the two of you want to do the tiebreaker 741 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 4: just for fun, Tennessee. 742 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: Often Notice how I went with Gramatica because I couldn't 743 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: remember if it was Bill or Martin. But anyway, go ahead, 744 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: this won't count. 745 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 5: But We'll just do it for fun. Just see how 746 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 5: you tell? 747 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: What is the driving distance in miles from Nissan Stadium 748 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: in Nashville to State Farm Stadium, Frick Olmo. I would 749 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 4: have no idea what range to do this if I 750 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 4: were the one guessing. 751 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 5: Okay, so no judgment, No, I haven't. 752 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: Once Darren writes his answer, you can share yours, Paul. Okay, 753 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 4: Darren has shown. 754 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 3: Me his Okay, forty seven, I did two three hundred 755 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 3: ninety one. 756 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: The answer is one thousand, six hundred and fifty two. 757 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: Oh doesn't count though, So Darren. 758 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 5: Gets the win. 759 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: How about that? Okay? 760 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 5: Darren wins? Absolutely all right? 761 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, does Darren need to adapt during the mini bye? 762 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: Did Darren make any adjustments tweaks major or minor? Did 763 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: he do any self scouting or saying you vow to 764 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: do better the rest of this this season, Darren Irby. 765 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: I will say nothing during the mini bye, but I 766 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: will say that after the announcement that the Cardinals are 767 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 3: going to have a brand new facility way up north, 768 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 3: I have had initial discussions with my wife of would 769 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: we move. 770 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: The news is like three hours old. 771 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 3: I just told her that, and I'm like, well, I 772 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: guess I'm gonna have a drive now, which I've never 773 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 3: had because I literally live within two minutes of the 774 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: facility and uh. And she's like, well, we could always 775 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 3: move to this area because we've talked about it before 776 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: and it would get me closer. 777 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: But Darren, you're an early retirement guy. Come on, you 778 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: know you're a saver, not a spender. These things are 779 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: all true property. My wife is. 780 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: About to retire from teaching, and only one of us 781 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: is going to have like, uh, medical insurance, and quite frankly, 782 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: in this climate, somebody better have medical insurance. 783 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but anyway, so I know that you 784 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: are talking no, but that is it was big news, 785 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. And it's going to be 786 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: a big facility. 787 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 4: Up in Paradise Ridge. You're gonna have room for three 788 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 4: practice fields plus a fieldhouse. They're gonna have a whole 789 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 4: bunch of things up there in that area, right off 790 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 4: the one on one. 791 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 5: So it's exciting. 792 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 4: And we haven't seen a lot of the renders, but 793 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 4: from what we have seen, one of which is included 794 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 4: in Darren's article on Easycarnos dot com, it looks modern, 795 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 4: it looks sleek. 796 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 5: It's going to be very nice. 797 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: It's it's almost surreal. I'll be honest with I'm not 798 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: sure if it's hit home yet that there's going to 799 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: be We have lots of time before you yeah, I mean, 800 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: and you know there's two three years at least, right, 801 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't twenty twenty eight, So okay, Well, because we've. 802 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 3: Been so used to being here. They've been in this 803 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 3: Tempee facility since nineteen eighty nine, and it's obviously it's time, 804 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: and it's something that Michael Bidwell has been thinking about 805 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 3: doing for a long time and it finally all came together. 806 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: But in the now and the adaptation over the Mini 807 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: by which is obviously going to be still done here 808 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: in Tempee, like it was interesting because I I had 809 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 3: asked Nick Rolis and this is generally we hear about 810 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 3: changes happening on the Bye or the Mini buy and 811 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 3: tweaks that they want to do. And the reality is 812 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 3: is the vast majority of anything players and coaches are 813 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: going to do aren't going to be seen by the 814 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 3: naked eye most of the time. And I know fans 815 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: are out there waiting for drastic changes and big things 816 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: and big announcements and it doesn't happen. It's the same 817 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 3: reason why you don't usually change coaches in midstream. We've 818 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 3: been through this before, like where you get rid of 819 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 3: a head coach or a coordinator in season and it's 820 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 3: not going to change that much, and so you try 821 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: and work with in the context of what you already have. 822 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 3: And I think it goes back to what Danny was 823 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 3: saying earlier about how they might do this or that offensively, 824 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 3: but you got to get some things right of what 825 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 3: you're already trying to do, because quite frankly, that's what 826 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: you've been doing since January, is building a roster and 827 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 3: a playbook to what you were already trying to do. 828 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 3: And the reality is this offense that they're doing, it's 829 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: we're not just talking about since January. This is essentially 830 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 3: what they've been doing since they show it up in 831 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. So if you're talking about making drastic changes, 832 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: you're talking about turning a massive, you know, cruise ship 833 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: in midstream. I just think it's tough. 834 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 2: But once again, if you've been a run first offense 835 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: and you're missing James Connor, if you've been a run 836 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: first offense and defensive lines have adjusted defensive fronts, and 837 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: they're taking away your quote bread and butter, which guys 838 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: have talked about. If you're a run first offense and 839 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're not generating enough on first 840 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: down and it's always second and long second and obvious 841 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: pass right there, that restricts your playbook. So is it 842 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: a want or a need? And to me, it's a 843 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: need right now and then minus is sort of the 844 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: heartbeat of your offense. And James Connor, you guys know 845 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: how Adam and I've been on this and I doubled 846 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: down on this more than ever. Give me more Trey McBride. 847 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: I just you've seen offenses over the years, whether it 848 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: was Mahomes and Kelsey, whether it was Lamar Jackson and 849 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: Mark Andrews when they had zero receivers, but they go 850 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 2: to AFC championship games. I would love to see Kyler 851 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: and Trey McBride by far the best chemistry on the field. 852 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 2: Just give me more that one of, if not. 853 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 5: The most reliable receiver. 854 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 4: Good news is for the Cardinals is if you're wanting 855 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: to get the passing game going a little bit more, 856 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 4: maybe don't be so run first. Maybe a little more balanced. 857 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 4: They have the weapons. You have one of the best 858 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 4: tight ends in the league in Trey McBride. You have 859 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior out wide, Michael Wilson out wide, Zay Jones, 860 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 4: who have shown that they can make some really nice plays. 861 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 4: So the Cardinals have what they need to get the 862 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 4: passing game going. You can't completely abandon the run. That's 863 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: the bread and butter for a reason. And the reason 864 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 4: the passing game hasn't really been going to a certain 865 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: extent is because the run game hasn't been going. And 866 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 4: once you're able to keep a team honest and they 867 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 4: have to defend against the run, that's going to allow 868 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 4: this casing offense to really take advantage of what a 869 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 4: defense is showing them. If a defense doesn't have to 870 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 4: defend a run at all, okay, they'll just keep two 871 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 4: high safeties and they'll prevent you from moving the ball 872 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: down the field in the air. That's not tough. So 873 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 4: I am I do not want this team to abandon 874 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 4: the run and the identity. You have to find a 875 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 4: way to make it work. The reality is as good 876 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 4: as Connor is this run game and that's not on him. 877 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 4: Was not going the way that it needed to when 878 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 4: he was here. So what can you get from Trey Benson? 879 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 4: What can you get from a Michael Carter who was 880 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 4: signed to the active roster or Amari de Mercado. At 881 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 4: the time of recording this on Tuesday, we don't really 882 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: know what any sort of updates are. All we know 883 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 4: was the bonus practice Monday. Benson was not out there. 884 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 4: We don't have an injury report, so we're not sure 885 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 4: what's going on there. So what do you have in 886 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 4: the rest of that room? And Carter has done some 887 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 4: nice things when his number has been called upon the 888 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 4: last year plus of being in this organization. 889 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 2: You know, if Grioley once again or maybe Zach Grishman 890 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: would get off their keister and run these numbers. I'd 891 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: like to know what sort of six as Trey McBride 892 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: has had through four games this year catching second and 893 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,479 Speaker 2: third level balls. Is it me or does that seem 894 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 2: to be missing versus last season? 895 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 3: It feels it feels like it's. 896 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 4: Missing, but in general, it's all short passes. That's not 897 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 4: just McBride, but. 898 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 3: I but I would also wonder if the reason he 899 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: was making more second level catches was because defenses were 900 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: cheating up because the run game was going so well. 901 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 3: So again, chicken or the egg. But if he does 902 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 3: get more, if he does get more catches, just don't 903 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 3: say Tray mcplay. 904 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 2: Okay, can I can? I can? I take an issue 905 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 2: with that? Okay, now now now, now, now you finally 906 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna get the best out of me right here, Danny, 907 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 2: did you not do an interview sideline exchange last week 908 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 2: week before Elijah Higgins? 909 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: I did? 910 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: And did he not call Trey McBride Trey mcplay. He did? 911 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: He said, Remember, he literally said, in the room, we 912 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 2: call him Trey mcplay because you have about the dynamics 913 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: in the tight end room. And I stood up and 914 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: I went, really, so who's the person who came out 915 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 2: with you? 916 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 3: But so here's the problem with that he said in 917 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 3: the room, And the problem within the room is we 918 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: all know because we all have good friends that call 919 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 3: us stuff that pisses us off as a nickname, because 920 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 3: that's what friends do is call you something that you 921 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 3: don't want to be called. 922 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, just think about what we call Darren when 923 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 4: he's not around. 924 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I light the lamp 925 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 2: on that one. That's a good one. 926 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: Okay, knocked right into that. 927 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: The I team has been launched on that one. I'm 928 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: just going to tell you the Calvison consulting item is 929 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: going to get to the is going to get to 930 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: the bottom of that. 931 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 3: Here's what I want me have, Danny clip that and 932 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: you need to put that on your on your Twitter feed. 933 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, I actually forget where I was going next 934 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 2: because you guys got me all triggered about the tray mcplay. 935 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 2: So why don't we go ahead and how about some 936 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: winning behavior? How about it? 937 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 938 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: Can you display winning behavior? 939 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 5: You have to consistently display winning behavior. 940 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 2: That's winning behavior. 941 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 4: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold 942 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 4: people to that standard. 943 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna take the first one because I think 944 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: Danie'll be enlightened to hear that Tyreek Stevenson has actually 945 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: been replaced on the powerpol of incompetent slash ineptitude by 946 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 2: and and I Mitchell. Oh yeah, turning a touchdown into 947 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 2: a touchback. Nobody's better at this than the Colts Jonathan 948 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: Taylor did at the end of last season, and now 949 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 2: ad Mitchell. He drops the ball somewhere between the one 950 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: yard line and the goal line, and thou shalt not 951 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 2: get a touchdown instead, it's a touchback. 952 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 4: You can't celebrate until you are fully in the end zone. 953 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 5: You can't. That's what happens. 954 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 3: That's a killer for the Cardinals because the Rams lose 955 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 3: that game. 956 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, You're absolutely right. 957 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: I just noticed also that as I put this stuff together, 958 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 3: most of the time this is non winning behavior, no offense, 959 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: John thinking. 960 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 5: Hey, but congrats to Tyreek Stevenson. 961 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is for Tyreek Stevens. 962 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: He's on the everybody he's on the upswing, he's on 963 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 2: the comeback. Took him, you know, a while, but there 964 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 2: we go. Uh, let's see the other non winning behavior. 965 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: You say that, Darren, and you got to think of 966 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: the fans at the Ryder Cup, right, I mean, you know, 967 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: out on Long Guyland, all the Jabroni's out on Long 968 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 2: Island and uh yeah, that. 969 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: Was That's It's disappointing, it's stupid, it's I mean. 970 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 2: How about Rory McElroy in a true happy Gilmore moment, 971 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 2: backing off his shot and screaming, would you guys shut 972 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 2: the bleep off? 973 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 3: I love it? Like That's that's how it should be 974 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 3: because these guys were a bunch of idiots. There was 975 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 3: way too many idiots for way too much. It's just 976 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 3: it's so it's so irritating. 977 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 2: So as Rory said, and actually I give Roy a 978 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 2: lot of credit. I mean, he spoke to it at 979 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: length and just said, you know, why not cheer on 980 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 2: your own players? Why do you have to make derogatory 981 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 2: comments about the other guys? Wrong? Anyway, he has some 982 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: notion that golf is a gentleman's game and all that 983 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 2: sort of thing, and. 984 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 3: Again Ryder Cup has had certain it's a little bit 985 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 3: different than most golf tournaments, but when it gets that 986 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 3: ugly all the time, and we've seen it quite frankly 987 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 3: from a lot of crowds way too much recently. But 988 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 3: that's kind of where our culture is right now. Everybody 989 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 3: thinks it's it's cool to just be able to never mind. 990 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: All right, Darren, So, as an ASU guy, you're going 991 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 2: to handle the will I am? 992 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 3: First of all, I thought that was really cool, will 993 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,479 Speaker 3: I am joining the ASU faculty, And then I saw 994 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 3: that he's teaching an AI class, and then all of 995 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 3: a sudden, I thought, that's not winning behavior. 996 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 5: What why is he the one teaching AI. 997 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 3: He has some kind of company that works with AI, 998 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 3: and so he's going to teach a class in it. 999 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 3: And you will have people there live. But I think 1000 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: it's I think it's in California, so you can zoom 1001 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 3: in or you could be. 1002 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 4: Their lives a number of outcasts and black eyed peas 1003 00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 4: for anybody unaware. 1004 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 3: Oh yes, well I am. It could have been in 1005 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 3: getting cultured for all we knew. But yes, I thought 1006 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 3: that was really cool because I like William's stuff. But no, AI, 1007 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 3: get the f out of here. 1008 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 2: AI uh and Danny, what do we have here? Did 1009 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 2: you throw the one in about the squirrel? No, that 1010 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 2: was me, okay, I. 1011 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 3: I didn't want zach Gershman to feel left out. So 1012 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 3: this is for you, Zach Gershman. Residents of the Bay Area, 1013 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 3: which it's always the Bay Area, Like I gotta talk 1014 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 3: to Paul. 1015 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: Let's let's distinguish and differentiate. This is Marin County. Marin 1016 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 2: County is unlike the rest of the Bay Area. Tony swanky, Okay, 1017 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, no, wonder like a squirrel is big news 1018 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: in Marin. 1019 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: Joan Hellbach told the local affiliate she was walking in 1020 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 3: the neighborhood when a squirrel seemingly came out of nowhere 1021 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 3: and attacked her leg, clawing and biting. And Isabella camp 1022 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 3: Boys said she was also attacked while walking in the 1023 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 3: same area. The squirrel launched itself from the ground to 1024 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 3: her face and wound up on her arm. It bloody, 1025 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 3: she said. But the reason I saw this is because 1026 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 3: when I called it up, there was a photo of 1027 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 3: the flyer that has been posted, and there's a picture 1028 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 3: of this squirrel looking like it's jumping at the camera 1029 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: and it says it's warning residents the squirrel is no joke. 1030 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 3: And five people have been attacked by quote a very 1031 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 3: mean squirrel unquote. And let me just tell you, if 1032 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 3: Zach Gershman isn't off crying in a corner after he 1033 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 3: hears this story, I think we will accomplish that he 1034 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 3: has come a long way in a short. 1035 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 4: It's like that episode of Parks or Wreck where they're 1036 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 4: trying to catch a possum. How do you know it's 1037 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 4: the same squirrel? They had this debate. How do they 1038 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 4: know they caught the wrong the right possum? 1039 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 5: How do you know it's the same squirrel? 1040 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 3: I don't know a serial squirrel attacker. 1041 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, look out in a Belvedere and 1042 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 2: Tiberan and Saucelito, they can afford a squirrel hunter, So 1043 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: just go ahead and hire someone to hunt down the squirrel. 1044 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 3: Now, I will say this not winning behavior if you're 1045 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 3: attacked by the squirrel. But for all I know, the 1046 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 3: squirrel is exhibiting winning behavior. He's taking over this very 1047 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 3: rich neighborhood. Who knows. I mean, if I recall correctly, 1048 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 3: the new version of the Planet of the Apes was 1049 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 3: set in the Bay Area, So maybe instead of apes, 1050 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 3: it's going to be squirrels. 1051 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's something I can't segue off of. I'm sorry. 1052 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: I met my match late stages of Cardinals underground on 1053 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: this one at. 1054 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 3: San Francisco, lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 1055 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Niners, oh boy, I mean all the injuries, brock. 1056 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 3: Perty pay a short week go to the ram I. 1057 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: Mean, hello, by the way, the return of ball Nichols. 1058 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 2: Is that something we can count on anytime soon? Any idea? 1059 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 2: Any question? 1060 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's a three week window to come 1061 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 3: back on the active roster. Can It depends on what 1062 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 3: your definition of soon is. But I don't think they 1063 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 3: put them back on the practice field unless they feel 1064 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 3: like at some point he's going to be able to 1065 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 3: be activated, and it's got to be within the next 1066 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 3: three weeks. So fingers crossed because with all the guys, 1067 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 3: there's still guys getting banged up. You still have Justin 1068 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 3: Jones who's not playing. We still don't know about Walter Nolan. 1069 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 3: So if you can get back a defensive lineman like 1070 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 3: Ballall Nichols, who hasn't played since Week six of last year, 1071 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 3: that would be good. 1072 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 4: He's been out for almost a year with a neck injury, 1073 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 4: he was dealing with some stingers. He only played in 1074 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 4: six games last year, and unfortunately, when the Cardinals originally 1075 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 4: signed Nichols as a free agent, part of the attraction 1076 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 4: was the fact that he had been incredibly reliable and 1077 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 4: he hadn't been hurt throughout his career. So the Cardinals 1078 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 4: can get some reinforcements on the defensive line, especially because 1079 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 4: at that bonus practice Monday didn't see defensive lineman Darius 1080 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 4: Robinson out there, who left Thursday's game with a chest injury. 1081 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: Had a great game. He showed up all over the 1082 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 2: box score. 1083 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 4: Nichols doesn't necessarily have to play on Sunday. He has 1084 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 4: three weeks for the team to decide whether or not 1085 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 4: to sign him, to activate him to that roster, or 1086 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 4: he would have to be sidelined for the rest of 1087 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 4: the year. The fact that he's at practice Monday, though, 1088 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 4: get things going. That's that's a very good sign and 1089 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 4: they could use some help in that room. 1090 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm authorizing the two of you, by the way, when 1091 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 2: the practice window is open for Walter Nolan the third 1092 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 2: to feel free to remind me to go, Paully, pump 1093 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 2: your brakes, okay, because you know he has yet to 1094 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 2: take a snap in the NFL in pats. 1095 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 5: He hasn't practiced in pad since he was in college. 1096 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be. I don't care how talent 1097 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 2: he is. And Kalai has talked him up again this week. 1098 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean Kalai has doubled down in his confidence. What 1099 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 2: a jerk Walter Nole in the third is going to 1100 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 2: be a dude, just how soon? And so you know, 1101 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 2: some of us are more inclined to others to maybe 1102 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 2: getting over our skis a little bit, and you know, 1103 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 2: waiting for instant results in week one and so please 1104 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 2: remind me not to be that guy. 1105 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 3: Is that where Jonathan Gannon says, hey, the radio guy 1106 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 3: was getting over his skis. 1107 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 4: On quick sidebar is I actually would have had a 1108 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 4: segue for you, Paul, from the squirrel back to football 1109 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,959 Speaker 4: because in the rundown, one of the bullet points says 1110 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 4: landing zone in the kickoff rules bite, So I would 1111 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 4: have said, hey, squirrels aren't the only things that bite 1112 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 4: these days. 1113 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's an opinionated statement right there, like kickoff 1114 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: rules bite, like they stink or they came Oh, they 1115 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 2: came up and bit you because zone. I get it. 1116 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 3: Speaking of biting, I bit the dust in my picks 1117 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 3: this week. I was in the eight and six. You 1118 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,240 Speaker 3: two are both ten and four, so you're picking up ground. 1119 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 4: You can't make a comment about how well I did 1120 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 4: this week well because you had the same RECORDA ante can't. 1121 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 4: So we didn't get the Packers Cowboys game because it 1122 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 4: was a tie. 1123 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,879 Speaker 2: I do need to go full disclosure, right hey, put 1124 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 2: the bright put the bright white light in AI chat GPT. 1125 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 1: Light. 1126 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 2: Have made my picks this week? 1127 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 5: I eliminated you're disqualified. 1128 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 2: Yearly out of town Friday morning in a Lurch, I 1129 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 2: did not submit my picks. I notified Cody at the 1130 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 2: last minute. Please just let chat GPTs step in for yours, truly, 1131 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 2: so I will come clean. I will come clean. 1132 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,240 Speaker 5: On that qualify to be quite honest. 1133 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 2: Believe me. By by the end of the year, I'll 1134 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 2: be in third place. 1135 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 5: So you were trying to launch an investigation onto me 1136 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 5: for cheating. 1137 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 3: I'm just saying this is. 1138 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 2: This might be a good time to wrap up here. 1139 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 2: This Mike is getting a little it's getting a little 1140 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 2: tough here. Okay, So on that note, before there's any more, 1141 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 2: we don't want to sound like the Tennessee Titans around here, 1142 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, with cam Ord going to the podium and 1143 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 2: saying stuff we can't repeat. 1144 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 3: We got T Shirtsaul or they do? 1145 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: You know they made it into T shirts. 1146 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 3: Well the team didn't, but somebody did. We bleep, we bleed. 1147 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 2: Oh boy, by the way, he wasn't the only one. 1148 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this is the most dangerous aspect 1149 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 2: of playing the Tennessee Titans in Week five if they 1150 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: are angry and you are laxadaisical. Because Jeffrey Simmons came 1151 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: out and said we're playing bad football simple. I'm tired 1152 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 2: of hearing the same thing coming into the locker room. 1153 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 2: I'm tired of saying it we got to play better. 1154 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 2: When are we actually going to do the things we're 1155 00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: talking about? End quote Jeffrey Simmons, team leader. So if 1156 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 2: he's firing guys up and they're actually angry and agitated, Oh, 1157 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: by the way, their head coach is three and eighteen. 1158 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 2: Brian Callahan is an NFL head coach. And it can 1159 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 2: usually go one of two ways. Either the bottom completely 1160 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 2: falls out and they quit on the coach, or they 1161 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 2: sober up in a losing locker room and they say, 1162 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,240 Speaker 2: guess what if the coach changes this depth chart might change, 1163 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 2: job security might change. Maybe we should play hard for 1164 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 2: the guy who's in charge of some of the roster decisions. 1165 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 4: A winless team can still be a dangerous team. Cardinals 1166 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 4: cannot get caught in a mental trap of thinking this 1167 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 4: might be an easy game because Tennessee hasn't won a game, 1168 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 4: and because they might not be putting up a lot 1169 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 4: of numbers either offensively or defensively to really seem like 1170 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 4: they're going to be a formidable threat. 1171 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 5: Not the case. Everyone makes it right. You're making it 1172 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 5: to the NFL for a certain reason. Anybody can win on. 1173 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 2: Any given Sunday. 1174 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 3: I feel like we got off of Paul's chat cheepy 1175 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 3: tea time players. 1176 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 5: Oh no, don't. 1177 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 2: Worry before we get back on it. That'll do it 1178 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 2: for this edition of Cardinals Underground brought to you by 1179 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 2: Pacific Office Automation