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Speaker 2: Donks look at us now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, October twenty eighth, twenty twenty. It is time,

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Speaker 1: donks for Morning Combat. Hi everyone, my name is Luke

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Speaker 1: Thomas and one half of your hosting duo. You see

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Speaker 1: me here on your screen, joined by the man on

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Speaker 1: the other side of your screen. But I should say, BC,

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Speaker 1: this is how they've been seeing us for the past

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Speaker 1: bit differently this time.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at that got him bottom? Yeah, all right, we.

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Speaker 1: Are in the bunker, by the ways, Brian Campbell from

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports. I'm Luke Thomas from CBS Sports. Make sure

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Speaker 1: everyone in the control room mutes that things. I don't

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Speaker 1: everything they're saying back in there.

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Speaker 3: How, Luke and Form today not tolerating any tech issues

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Speaker 3: or hey that COVID Vigien Jay even showed up today.

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Speaker 1: He certainly did. We had Jay in the house, although

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Speaker 1: he's not here right now because he apparently has better

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Speaker 3: Orchids of Combat, you know down here at the tug shop.

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Speaker 1: Right the only way to shop Manytimes. You're gonna make

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a deep dive on Anderson Silla because hello,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be with you Thursday press conference stream live

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Speaker 1: No doubt and yeah you know, people.

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Speaker 1: All right, tons of stuff there, but first things First,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the stow the UFC side of things.

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Speaker 1: B see Dana White, UFC president has I don't know

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Speaker 1: Sort of a broad, open ended way to start this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts when you hear that you got a Duncan sponsorship?

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Speaker 1: What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Look? My thoughts are this, it's the right fight to make,

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Speaker 2: You can't make this guy wait two years. You know

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Speaker 3: He's done it. They've set him up, he's knocked him down.

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Speaker 3: It's time for him to get that chance. Let's make

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Speaker 1: Say, Luk, why not just go right to step A

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Speaker 2: It would be. But also, I mean, you see Jones

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Speaker 3: while you do that, you give a Ghanu the proper time.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if UFC would rather have when Jones does

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Speaker 2: Then, Stepe, you got to ask yourself that.

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Speaker 1: Also. I heard Eugene Barman talking about a fight against

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Speaker 3: For John Jones, it's really that or the the odd

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Speaker 1: Don't know who else you could possibly be at this point,

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Speaker 1: for me, I think it's probably fine. Steep I didn't

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Speaker 3: He seems better, I mean, if emotionally means anything, if

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Speaker 3: and now it's sort of figured out. I think more

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Speaker 2: But I think he's a more season I'm I'm so

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Speaker 1: If you go back and you look at that fight

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Speaker 3: Interesting, So you're saying, and Gan, who fights like guys

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Speaker 2: You're gonna wear the wife beater on the beach, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means? What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? The hell is wrong?

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Speaker 1: When all right, well, you know we put this in

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Speaker 1: Beltore wigh Ins, Belltore two fifty is tomorrow. I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: just my personal opinion. I don't know that Thursday nights

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Speaker 1: when there's football on. And also you have two guys

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Speaker 1: in Musas and Lima, who Musase will get saucy with you,

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Speaker 1: but only if the other person kind of provokes them

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Speaker 1: or does something. But Lima is your consummate professional, so

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Speaker 1: there's no trash talk whatsoever between them. But BC, you

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Speaker 1: I'm not making a joke here. This is arguably one

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Speaker 1: Well, everyone's like, we're not going to give you any gear.

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Speaker 1: Saying that's the hardest thing to do, all right, So

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Speaker 1: a favorite. But BC minus one sixty five to Limas

436
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,720
Speaker 1: plus one forty five. Very very very very tight contest.

437
00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,200
Speaker 3: By the way, do you see a tweet that was

438
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,359
Speaker 3: out there about all the military cut some big names.

439
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so they cut They cut Roy Nelson, they

440
00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 1: cut Frank me.

441
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Speaker 2: I mean that those are somewhat expected.

442
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,400
Speaker 3: They they cut former champion JP al Carvallo, Joe Shilling, Caveman,

443
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,159
Speaker 3: Rickles Lovato officially did announcie retirement.

444
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Speaker 2: He had the brain issue unfortunately.

445
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Speaker 3: But it goes to Derek compos It's a j AGAs

446
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Speaker 3: arm Is that how.

447
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Speaker 1: You're saying is AGAs arm Yeah he didn't. He underperformed.

448
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying there were about three to four others where

449
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,560
Speaker 3: you'd be you know, uh here, I have.

450
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Speaker 1: The whole list here. Uh it's uh this is who

451
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 1: got cut, not one Archi letter the other. Ricky benlet

452
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 1: is the champion, Venicia Zani, Joe Warren, Many Vasquez, Sewan Bunch,

453
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 1: former Olympic, Olympian, Olympic Ultimate Mike Kimball. Now, this was

454
00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 1: the guy that was supposed to be that big prospect

455
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,679
Speaker 1: that a Connecticut he was. He a great for By

456
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 1: the way, his folks tried to play hardball with me

457
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 1: on an interview one time. Shouts to them for that

458
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 1: amazing decision on their part. Ricky ben Dejas a j A,

459
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't take slides like that kindly.

460
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 2: Wow, especially not after a day when everything's falling apart.

461
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 1: I was like, really, the guy was one to no,

462
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 1: y'all want to play hardball with me on a one

463
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Speaker 1: to no fighter, Okay, Ricky Ban Dejas a j Agaz

464
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 1: arm Adele Altamini. So these guys, I don't know. Derek

465
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Speaker 1: compos who had a Brandon Gertz is fighting as the

466
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Speaker 1: comin event, and the Derek Compost fight against Brandon Gertz

467
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: was a classic. That was a great one. Let's see

468
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,120
Speaker 1: Jim Gozzali, who's been a sort of a staple for them,

469
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 1: Richard Keeley, I on Pascu, David Rickles, Joe Shilling, Joe Shilling,

470
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,160
Speaker 1: got let Go, Tuco Tokos is Tucco, the guy from

471
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Speaker 1: Breaking Bad. I can't remember Halfaelo Carvagio, Roy Nelson, Frankmeer,

472
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: Christina Williams who fought against uh, Heather Hardy, and then

473
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 1: a couple of people I didn't hear about it. And

474
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 1: by the way, the retirements are John Fitch, Raffael Avato

475
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 1: Junior and then Pat Kuran, the former champion.

476
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Speaker 2: You can say current though, sorry whatever.

477
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Speaker 3: All right, So look, we got that main event sort

478
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 3: of we know it's going to be a great fight.

479
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Speaker 2: You don't like to really go on the record. I'm

480
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 2: believing in Limaher. I think you can pull this off.

481
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy at all.

482
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Speaker 2: Uh do you like the rest of the card.

483
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 3: Do you like that cole main event, that potential banger

484
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 3: at featherweight as Henry Corrals he's riding a two fight

485
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 3: losing streak, but he just got a new Bellator deal.

486
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Speaker 1: Yep.

487
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 3: He fought the very best, losing to Darren Caldwell. Losing

488
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Speaker 3: to the current champion won. Archiletta went in there against

489
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Speaker 3: Brandon Gertz, who's coming down from lightweight.

490
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Gurtz heavy hitter at one fifty five. Again the

491
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: fight against compos where they were just killing each other, bloodbath.

492
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Speaker 1: He goes down away class. Actually, both of these guys

493
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: are in pretty similar positions in that every time they

494
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Speaker 1: step up against the very elite or the big names,

495
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: they tend to have issues. With the exception of Corrals

496
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Speaker 1: who knocked out Pico, but other than that, no, excuse

497
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: me and let me correct that. That's not fair to Corrals.

498
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: He also be Georgie Kara Khanyan. That's a very big

499
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: win for him as well, so I'll give him that.

500
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: But against the truly truly upper upper upper tier, he's

501
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 1: had some issues. Brandon Gertz the same kind of thing

502
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Speaker 1: at one fifty five. Question is what kind of power

503
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: will he have down away class? Will his gas take

504
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: be effected to what extent? Are those relevant factors when

505
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: assessing this fight. But I'll tell you this much. Corrals

506
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: wide open striker Brandon Gertz wide open striker, tends to

507
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit, likes to wrest a

508
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: little bit more all action written all over it.

509
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: They're given us as Belitor can often do.

510
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: They're filling the undercard at least with some interesting names

511
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 3: and storylines coming in Nick Newall, this is the third

512
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 3: fight in his Belatre journey. Won the first lost a

513
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 3: split decision to a guy I believe was Manny Murrow,

514
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 3: who then got a Belitor contract. Afterwards, Newell did say, look,

515
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: I took too many fights in a short period. I

516
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: came in maybe a little bit overworked against a guy

517
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: who was certainly hungry. Given Nick Newell's situation, Luke the

518
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: congenial amputee congenital congenial.

519
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: Congenial is like a word that's like you're like master

520
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: p when you mix eloquent and elegant. It's elegant.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I put the genital in congenital. I'll tell you

522
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: that much. But I will say this, Luke get out.

523
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: We know his situation. He was good in World Series

524
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: of Fighting.

525
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: Yes, UFC gave him the tryout with the Dana White

526
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 3: Contender Series. He lost that fight that was going to

527
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 3: be it. Belta is giving a chance or does he

528
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: need a win? Though, all things considered, given his situation,

529
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Speaker 3: does he need a winning.

530
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Speaker 1: So he sins at sixteen and three. He's a good

531
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Speaker 1: draw for them Connecticut, which right now doesn't really matter

532
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 1: obviously because of the situation. I don't think he's on

533
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: some kind of chopping block. He had the win in

534
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Speaker 1: his debut, he had lost in this decision in the

535
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Speaker 1: second one. Listen, they put him on a prelim card

536
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: when they have crowds. Again, he's valuable for that. Historically

537
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: he has been good for generating media less so these

538
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: days in the second run, I mean, I think the

539
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: story about here, here's this guy he wants to do

540
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: and then May who's been a congenital amputee. It's an

541
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 1: amazing story, but it's been told a lot. How many

542
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: times can you sort of retell it? At that point

543
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: the fighting has to take over a little bit, and

544
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: he's had He's been up and down in that regard.

545
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's on any kind of chopping block.

546
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: But I would suspect that if you. I don't think

547
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: This is going to get him cut if he loses.

548
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: But you know, any any kind of career growth, any

549
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of sticking power in a big show, probably hinges

550
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: on an ability to, you know, win two out of

551
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: every three, not lose two out of every three.

552
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: I'll be taking on Zachary Zane.

553
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: I do like by the way, Nick Newlls just sort

554
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: of fighting spirit, love the interviews. He's a very he's

555
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: very inspirational guy, so I'll give him that.

556
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: Beyond the inspirational story.

557
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: Just his regular demeanor as a fighter. I like you,

558
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: very nice person. Yes, my guy. Jake Hager formerly Jack

559
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: Swagger in the w W now making big moves.

560
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: Of course.

561
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: Way, let's go.

562
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: Let's just do it right now.

563
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: He's known for one thing in my life, the greatest

564
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: post fight sound interview that we've ever seen in the

565
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: history of mixed martial arts. Gaff in the back. Can

566
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: you hit me with the horns?

567
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: Money? Please? You gotta give it to me right now?

568
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: Does he?

569
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: I quit? I quit? All right, Let's just it was

570
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 2: it was good. Here we go, Here we go. It

571
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: happened so fast.

572
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: But you know what rock hard is that a weird face,

573
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: doesn't I got a phoner.

574
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 3: He invented the phoner Luke, which in his terms, is

575
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: a fight boner, meaning.

576
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: You're so rock hard with emotion.

577
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: That you're feeling it. He changes nickname to rock Hard.

578
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: Here's the deal and how you is that? How you

579
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: explain away all the boners? You have to tsa right flight? Sorry,

580
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 3: why do you have a full erection?

581
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: You're on a forty five minute flight.

582
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: And you have no baggage. I don't know why you

583
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: just come with this?

584
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: Dude.

585
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 2: So he's two and zero as a pro. He had

586
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: a third fight.

587
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 3: He punched the guy in the nuts, which is, you know,

588
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: on point for Bellator. He won't be fighting a meat

589
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 3: packer this time though, a guy straight off the uh

590
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: straight off the slaughterhouse.

591
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: He literally fought the guy who like slices your salami

592
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: at what the fuck you?

593
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: And Brandon Calton. Uh.

594
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Speaker 1: Luke's Virginia. I'm from Virginia.

595
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: No, Hagger's a legit sixty seven. He's looked good against

596
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: nominal competition. Here's what's interesting. This is another just sort

597
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: of who are you type of fight. He's been off

598
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: for a year doing wrestling. He's thirty eight years old.

599
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: He says within six months to a year, I will

600
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: be fighting legitimate bellator heavyweights.

601
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: Do you like anything you've seen so far from him

602
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: in the cage?

603
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, he obviously he wrestled Division one, did he not?

604
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: He's from Oklahoma.

605
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think at he wrestled at a

606
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: collegiate level, yes, which is nothing, no small matter here

607
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: in the United States. It's hard to do that, even

608
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: if you're Division three. To the extent that he has

609
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: used in his fights, the clear League has have been

610
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: a skilled differential. Granted he's been fighting.

611
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: He played football and wrestling at Oklahoma.

612
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, dude, that's a lot like that. That's

613
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: not easy to do. So you know he's a legitimate athlete.

614
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: I think he's a little older though, right, and he

615
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: kicking fort thirty eight yeah, so you know he's a

616
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: little longer than tooth. But they're matching him up so

617
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: far with people. I mean, the dude, he's fighting us

618
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: from Coburn, Virginia, which you know, I've spent a lot

619
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: of years of my life in Virginia. I don't even

620
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: know where that is. Let me look this up, Cober

621
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: Is that like near Loray Caverns? Where where is this Oh,

622
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: this dude is near Bristol. I mean, Jesus's good.

623
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Wasn't that big? And you know, Beltzer is really good.

624
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: If you're doing the Bobby Lashley circuit, they'll get you

625
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: a lot of fat guys, fat white guys.

626
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: Dude, this is past Blacksburg and Roanoke. I mean yeah, all.

627
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: Right, Well let me ask you this, what's what is

628
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: Jake Hager's endgame?

629
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: Is it a loss to somebody like Chech Congo or

630
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: is it beating a Bobby Lashley and a wrestler pro

631
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: wrestler versus pro wrestler.

632
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Fight, Yeah, probably something like that. I don't know that

633
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: he's going to climb the ranks in any kind of

634
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: serious way. Again, not that if he had started at

635
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: a different time. He looks like he's got some real ability,

636
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, all jokes aside about pro wrestling. He looks

637
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: to get some real ability. But the question is what

638
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: are his real goals? And the question is what does

639
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: Beltar want to do with him? He's fun as like

640
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: an interesting attraction who can actually fight. Yes, I don't

641
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: know that he's fun as like, wow, he could be

642
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: champion in this organization.

643
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Well he is?

644
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: He was the real American Jackswagger, and he has been

645
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: all pro Trump heading into this fight, Luke, So you

646
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: can deal with that however you do so you get

647
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: all answer in the pants about the politics and stuff.

648
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: But look the other fight.

649
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't note d Adam all the fighters left Trump.

650
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: Adam Borch is back.

651
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: And this was a guy who did anyone have a

652
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: better twenty nineteen than him upsetting Aaron Pico and then

653
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: sending pat to.

654
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: Retire exactly except twenty twenty twenty twenty.

655
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: So he loses to Darian Caldwell in the Welterweight World

656
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: Grand prixst and then he came back against Mike Hamil

657
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: and that was a real fight for random bores. They

658
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: fought to a split decision. Bortch got the win, but

659
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: it was a fight, Luke. He's coming in there against

660
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: Eric Sanchez, a team Alpha mel guy. Do you still

661
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: see in the Hungarian the same future stardom that my

662
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: guy Rishad Evans was barking about going way back at sanfordhim.

663
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this one's at a catchway. They've got it.

664
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: I listened at lightweight in certain places, but it's one

665
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds he looked awesome through his belt

666
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: or run when he was beating Silva Pico Kuran and

667
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, dude, this is gonna And then he

668
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: just got rand.

669
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: He called current current. It's fine.

670
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: He got run over by Darien Caldwell. The fight ended,

671
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: what was it two twenty into the first round. I mean,

672
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: it was not very competitive at all, you thought, I mean,

673
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: it's not that he lost.

674
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: It looked like al Joe Sanhagen, if you want to

675
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: be really honest, it.

676
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: Kind of did. It kind of did where it was

677
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: just like if that was all you ever knew about

678
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: Corey Sandhagen, you wouldn't say that was super representative of him.

679
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: So maybe that's what happened here. I think it made

680
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: us take a second to go, Okay, this guy coming

681
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: out of hunger. Yes, he trades at hard Knocks WE

682
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: sixty five, he trains with world class fighters, but maybe

683
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more seasoning on that. In fact,

684
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a young guy. He only stands at

685
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: not too young twenty seven. That's still pretty young enough. Yeah,

686
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll have to see what he can

687
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: show us in this one. As he begins to not

688
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: like some major rebuilding, but developmental process I think is

689
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: still a little bit needs some work.

690
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: I think he'll be back up to that level and

691
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: to the title level falling out of that tournament. We'll

692
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: see that tournament coming back in November on two consecutive

693
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: cards for Bellator.

694
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: On the CBS Sports Network.

695
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: So check out this Belatoor two fifty card Thursday night,

696
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: eight pm Eastern on our brotherhood there the CBS Sports Network.

697
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: Luke, you want to take us into the other topic

698
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: of the week.

699
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to move along here because we lost

700
00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: about half an hour.

701
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: It's just a lot of our life today.

702
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's day. It's been a rough one, so

703
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: let's move it along. This weekend is going to be

704
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: the uh, well, let's call what it is. It's the

705
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: crown jewel of the boxing calendar, at least in so

706
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: far as showtime is concerned. There's actually a lot of

707
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: boxing on this weekend. We'll get a little bit more

708
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: to the rest of it on Friday's show, but for today,

709
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: remember the reason why we're in the studio is because

710
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow and then Friday will be guiding through the press

711
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: conference and the weigh ins for Gervanta Gervonte, Dave, excuse me,

712
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: taking on Leo Santa Cruz, two titles up for grabs

713
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: and really probably the toughest fight of Gervonte's career. Who's

714
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: been backed by Floyd Mayweather. Honestly, you see, you've been

715
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: around this world a little bit longer than I have,

716
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: actually a lot longer, So call what it is. Have

717
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: you ever seen Floyd back a fighter the way he's

718
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: back Dravonte? Never?

719
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: Never, So Floyd's Mayweather promotions got started when Floyd was

720
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: still active, and you know, he's had jayley on Love

721
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: got him to the title level. He's had Badu Jack,

722
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: who's become a very successful and champion out there and

723
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: has been, you know, an advocate for certain fighters. But Jervonte,

724
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: it's been much deeper than that, the mentor the big brother.

725
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: And now even.

726
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Getting into the corner, you still have Calvin Ford, the

727
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: Baltimore based trainer there as sort of Dravonte's lead trainer

728
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: and father figure. But Floyd is really filling in the

729
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: gaps and I like it more specifically, Luke. While it

730
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: may be more valuable for the lessons Floyd can teach

731
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: Dravonte from the standpoint of professionalism, cleaning up some of

732
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: the outside the ring stuff that a lot of young

733
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: athletes unfortunately get into. I like more of what Floyd

734
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: can do inside the ring ropes, Luke, because Dravonte's blowing

735
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: people away in the smaller weight classes. You know, he's

736
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: the Mike Tyson of the low weight classes in some way,

737
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: he hasn't really had to show the full boxing game.

738
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: The more that Floyd can do to keep him calm,

739
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: to show him how to bring out those wrinkles if

740
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: he ends up becoming a complete fighter, Luke, not just

741
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: send you to hell, but be able to outbox you.

742
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: You're still looking at age twenty five as one of

743
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: the future pillars of this sport. We have this group

744
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: of young guys, the Ryan Garcias, Devin Hanes, Tayo, Fimo Lopez, Checkers,

745
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Stevenson belongs in that conversation. We still don't know yet

746
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: if Gravonta Davis could be.

747
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: The best out of that group.

748
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: I think he's showing you that he's got a head

749
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: start and everybody from a brand in marketing point. The

750
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: real story for me in this in this is how

751
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: big is Jervontay Davis's brand. He draws huge celebrity fandom

752
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: to his fights. He put big fans in La went

753
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: to Baltimore and sold out that arena for his homecoming.

754
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: He went to Atlanta and put out some big numbers there.

755
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: If he can put up good pay per view numbers

756
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: here against a well known name, a guy who has

757
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, rooted in that Mexican American community, you really

758
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: are talking about somebody who is going to be leading

759
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: the chargees the next big star. You gotta be able

760
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: to do both, and you got to be able to

761
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: stay professional to see Floyd give this much of himself.

762
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: While you can easily say, hey, I saw all access

763
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: Floyd's hogging up the cameras was also putting Tank over,

764
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: But what's more important to me is what they do

765
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: behind the scenes when the cameras are off, and is

766
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: Tank ready to really bite down, be in the best

767
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: shape that he can be, and completely well round his game.

768
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: Luke, you've seen flashes of him.

769
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: If you're telling me that Dravante is completely bought in

770
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: and we're going to.

771
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: See the best of him on Saturday, he may blow

772
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: through Leo for all we know. He's that good.

773
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing I'm looking at the odds, here,

774
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: Dravante is sitting at about a minus seven to seven

775
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: hundred and you've got Leo Santa Cruz at about plus

776
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: five hundred or so. This can change depending where you look. Again,

777
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: the line could close between now and whenever. But that's

778
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: what they have right now. I gotta tell you, I

779
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know that I agree with that. I don't know

780
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: that I see that as that much of a distance

781
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: between the two, because Santa Cruz, to me, is being

782
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: badly overlooked here. Now, all the things you mentioned, like

783
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: Floyd really getting behind him and the achievements he's had

784
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: to the date, Gervante, they're all real, but got some

785
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: issues on the scale, and this weight is being this

786
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: fight is being contested that at a weight that could

787
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: challenge that or at least resurface those problems. First thing

788
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: I'd say, Second thing I'd say is what Dravante really

789
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: has is just incredible decision making and huge power or

790
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: his size hence the name tank. Santa Cruz does not.

791
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: But Santa Cruz, what he has is something that could

792
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: be krypton that for somebody who has issues on the

793
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: scale and maybe is like sort of a one hit

794
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: or quitter type. By the way, he didn't drop Gamboa

795
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: in that fight until in Atlanta until late in the contest.

796
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: If you hang around against Hank, who hang around against him?

797
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: And that's what Leo said. My goal is to avoid

798
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 3: the power early in verse five rounds pull on his

799
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: gas tank down the stretch.

800
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Deil Cruz has huge volume all over you like why.

801
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: And good length.

802
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's very very experienced as well. He's fought

803
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: I would say a relative in terms of the who's

804
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: fought more of their high end piers, I would say

805
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: Cruz has done more than Davis to this point.

806
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: Who fights with Abnamars too, with Carl Frampton that we're

807
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: both classes.

808
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Right, and so to me it's like, maybe it's true

809
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: that Cruz is more weather. In fact, it's definitely true

810
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: he's more weathered, and that may be a big difference.

811
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: I still see this as a very competitive fight. I

812
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: still lean towards Davis. This is the fight he needs

813
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: to show that he can beat some of these more

814
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: known names and we'll see what happens after that. Maybe

815
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: a Gary Russell Junior fight, the fight in the Battle

816
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: of the Beltweighs or something right here, in DC and

817
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: then in Baltimore. But I don't really agree with the

818
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: odds that it's as much of a mismatch.

819
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: I don't know those odds will.

820
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: Look fine if Dravante comes in, puts the power on

821
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: him and gets him out of there within three rounds,

822
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: which is it's in play for every Davis opponent. No,

823
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: Santa Cruz does not get man handled. He doesn't have

824
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: high end power. I think right when he moved at

825
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: to featherweight, you saw that. Okay, he's not a high

826
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: end power guy, but he's a volume guy. And what

827
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: he showed in the two fights with Carl Frampton is

828
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: he has other ways to win than just coming ahead

829
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: with hurricanes of punches. He can use the jab, he

830
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 3: can alter her strategy. If he's still there and he's

831
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 3: looking good, meaning Leo Santa Cruz in round seven, eight nine,

832
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: that's when we're gonna find out what Davonte is really

833
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: made of.

834
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: And it just so happens that no one's been able

835
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: to pull that out of him.

836
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: I know Gamboa lingered for a long time right before

837
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: getting stopped. No one's really been able to pull that

838
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: out of him. Leo could be that guy. And that's

839
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: why you need to see this fight, along with the

840
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: idea that Gravante's finally stepping up to that level to

841
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: find out how big his brand is. Celebrities love him.

842
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: You got Floyd Beck in him. Also, will that equal

843
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: the same box office success? You know with the pay

844
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: per view buys? We're gonna find out.

845
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Also, should we noted something I've been to. We went

846
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: to the fight in Baltimore against was it Ricardo Nunez? Yeah?

847
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: That was That was a crowd and the half of

848
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: okay half sid Let.

849
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Me explain something. So I've been to two fights at

850
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: the same arena. One was the Tank Davis fight and

851
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: then one was John Jones versus Glover to share a

852
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: royal Royal Farm arena. I forgot what it was called before,

853
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: but in any case, the first time I went was

854
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: when Jones fought to Share. I was back in twenty

855
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: fourteen or whenever it was, and that arena was a

856
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: lot of Baltimore fight fans, predominantly white, let's just call

857
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: it what it was, wahin T shirts that was fading

858
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: out by that point, a little.

859
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Bit black leather jacket, no what.

860
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: There was a lot of like real fight fans there. Okay,

861
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: So then we go fast forward to twenty nineteen. You

862
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: and I go to the fight there in Baltimore, and

863
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: it was predominantly African Americans. And I'm gonna tell a

864
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: story here. I know people are gonna call bullshit on it,

865
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: but it's really true. I remember the night we did

866
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: not go to Atlanta, but I remember the night he

867
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: fought Gamboa in Atlanta. I had two friends with me,

868
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: one from Europe who moved to Europe for work and

869
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: came back. Was like, Hey, let's go bar hopping. And

870
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: we went bar hopping in this place in DC called

871
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: H Street. And H Street is like this weird mix

872
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: of all different kinds of people, all different kinds of groups.

873
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: And we went and I remember there was a football

874
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: game being played, a big SEC football game being played

875
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: the exact same day, and a bunch of the bars

876
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: we went to that cater too, like which you would

877
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: consider to be, you know, a mixed crowd. They all

878
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: had the game on. We wandered into a bar that

879
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: cater and specifically towards African Americans, and on all three

880
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: floors of the bar they had the showtime broadcast for

881
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: Tank Davis. He appeals to African Americans in a way

882
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: that I've not seen a lot of other boxers that

883
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: are hit that as twenty five years old, that pull

884
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: as strongly in that demo as he does, deserves to

885
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: be noticed.

886
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that crowd when we were in that arena, I

887
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: like boxing. You know in some places, going back more

888
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: to hometown markets, you saw Tam s. Crawford with Hopper

889
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: and going too Omaha and in the places where Wild

890
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: there was an energy.

891
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: In that building.

892
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: Now, maybe it's the hometown thing, but Tank brings a

893
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: different element of crowd, of crowd and style here, which

894
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: is why you can't underscore.

895
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: Why were you smirking when I told that story. I

896
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: believe me, I swear to God, No, no, no, I believe

897
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: the way you set it up was was like because

898
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: anytime I.

899
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: Tell you set it up like. We were there that

900
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: night and not a lot of white people.

901
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: In that building though Hills true it was. It was

902
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: a huge African American audience. It's just you don't appreciate it.

903
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: The difference, and one is not better than the other,

904
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: they are just different. I'm simply noting it's nearly forty

905
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: minutes between introll more than that forty five minutes between

906
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: walkout introduction if it goes a full twelve right, and

907
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: it's got all these breaks in the middle.

908
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: The UFC's figured out how to make it work. They

909
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: haven't suffered. I don't know how when we're watching on tv.

910
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: Mmas MMA is most MMA fights are better without fans,

911
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: what I can.

912
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Agree, not better without fans.

913
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: They've made it work to where you don't notice that that.

914
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: This is like saying the concert I went to for

915
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: Metallica was better with an audience. Oh no, wait, the

916
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: private Metallica concert I had was actually better. That's the different.

917
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: Luke the cheese pizza analogy. Shit is ridiculous. That doesn't

918
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: how it's not.

919
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: How okay, one person sex is pretty good. Two people changes, the.

920
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: Dynamic three has gone.

921
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: Rhea.

922
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: Thanks, you know you got a group of people, you know, Yeah,

923
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: I'm out.

924
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: All right. Well, with that in mind, we can move

925
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: it along here. Let's get to our next segment. You

926
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: take it away, all right.

927
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: Every Wednesday s j W time, we scour the inter

928
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: globes to find the biggest beef's going on and combat

929
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: sports and beyond, and we bring in the honorable judge

930
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: Joseph Fauci.

931
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: Over here to uh know, someone said, I should be

932
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: uh instead of Ruth Vader Ginsburg, I should be Luke.

933
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: Luke Vader LBG LBGT in the house over here, Luke

934
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: Bader Ginsburg.

935
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Let's start here.

936
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: I could easily start with John Jones defending himself in

937
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: the Habib debate, but we've already been God.

938
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: He won't stop, can't stop, won't stop. I mean, he

939
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: just wants John.

940
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: You're so damn good, John, I love you. Bro Okay,

941
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 3: you're so damn good. You don't need to like let it.

942
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: Let the resume speak.

943
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: Also, it's a here's two things I don't think he

944
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: really appreciates. One, people who really know, who really know

945
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: John's case is overwhelming.

946
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: Those are no.

947
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: Number Two. It's like, dude, the instant you fight at

948
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: heavyweight and win, even if it's not Francis or whatever,

949
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: it's just something like one off the instant you go

950
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: up there and get a win. Everyone is going to

951
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: come right back around that they're only giving it to

952
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: Habib because he has a decent case. I wouldn't call

953
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: it an overwhelming case. He's a decent case. And by

954
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: the way, he just won and retired feelings are strong.

955
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: Let him have his moment.

956
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 3: Although look, moment moment make the change to put Habib

957
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: number one in John two, but a lot of us

958
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: already had that change.

959
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Okay, it is what it is.

960
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: John's big argument though, when he put out that video

961
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: on Instagram, yes I didn't watch that, he was calling

962
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: out Habibe's fans, and he's like, his big debate was

963
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: every championship win he calls championships, which is weird, but

964
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: he says he has So John has the UFC record

965
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: with fourteen wins and title fights. He's calling it fifteen

966
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: because he's counting the second Cormier No contest as a win.

967
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 3: So he's saying, I had I have fifteen championships meaning

968
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: wins and title fights four best four, and he's going

969
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: fifteen to four, fifteen to four, and then certainly, look,

970
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: I have John number one, and that's a big part

971
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: of the argument. But you do have to say this

972
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: about Habib, not only did he have the unfortunate large

973
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: blocks missing, the UFC kind of fed him and strung

974
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: him along to make Connor Eddie Alvaz happen, when when

975
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: Habib deserved it more and then Hibbibe threatened, I'll never

976
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: fight in Russia for you, and then then there's gonna

977
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: go to Walter with.

978
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: John was able to skip the line because Rashad got injured,

979
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: so he was able to go from Bader to Showgun

980
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: pretty quickly.

981
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: So it whatever it is, what it is. Let's start

982
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: on SJW this week Nate Diaz versus the World Luke when.

983
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: When people started calling Habib the goat after beating Justin

984
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: gai Che, Nate came out on Saturday and was a white.

985
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Gulls boy, they will just rain on your fucking pereher.

986
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

987
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: He came back with none of these guys knows.

988
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: Yes, it's poorier gai Chi McGregor, I ain't eating this

989
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: shit up like.

990
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Y'all, okay, hitting Hey.

991
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: Then Diz came back and posted not in one in

992
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: reference to the But what he's talking about here is

993
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: the altercation at the World Series Series, A fighting in

994
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: which he claims to have slapped Habib, And we have

995
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: a quote here from Diaz saying, when I ran into

996
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: him and his team at the World Series, I was

997
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: standing there watching Jake my friend fight Jake Shields, and

998
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: they took a group picture with me behind them, just

999
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: to laugh at me and make fun of me. Habib

1000
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: is like, ah, come on, man, and they're all laughing

1001
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 3: twelve Russian dudes. So I slapped Habib in the face

1002
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: for making fun of me, and I'm like what, And

1003
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: he didn't do anything. I was outside furious, so I

1004
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: waited for him to come out, and when.

1005
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: I when I went to get him, and he ran off.

1006
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: The DZ brothers love.

1007
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: That if you don't show up to fight, it's it's

1008
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: an l whether it's in a cage or not. Right, Yeah,

1009
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: Fourier pulled out of UFC two A five's.

1010
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Or even if you fight them and win, they consider

1011
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: two thirty two thirty Like if you ask Nate who

1012
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: won the rematch he had with Connor, he's gonna tell

1013
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: you I won that. I go count that as an

1014
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: actual win. Yes, even though and it's like, you know,

1015
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: the argument is obviously quite silly because he fought Rtia.

1016
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: Granted he was injured when he fought him, but Rtia,

1017
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: first of all, RDA knows jiu jitsu, and RDA demolished him,

1018
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: and then Habib demolished the RDA And what's really important

1019
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: about that? Is because he didn't do it on the feet.

1020
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: He took him down and that was the eye opener

1021
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: when you were like, right, you were like, wow, take

1022
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: him down with ease, past guard with ease, Like he

1023
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: really had no problems with him on the ground. Also,

1024
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: we've seen the DS butters get their guard shredded a

1025
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: number of times. And oh, by the way, Josh Thompson

1026
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: knocked DS out.

1027
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, so, what you're saying is, Nate,

1028
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 3: don't make us like actually look at this and make

1029
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: us point these things out because we love you so

1030
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: much we don't want to point out that.

1031
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, dude, Nate is such an interesting addition

1032
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: to this and I almost appreciate how much he's like,

1033
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: the world is going this way and he's like, fuck

1034
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: all y'all.

1035
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, the PostScript on this, Dana did claim differently from

1036
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: that Habib story from twenty fourteen.

1037
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: Oh, Dana claimed, and here's a tweet.

1038
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: From twenty fourteen that Nate turned down the offer to

1039
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: fight a bee back then.

1040
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: Now that's years before the World Series of Fighting incident.

1041
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: But and also Nate, you know, probably just again, it.

1042
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: Was probably for fifteen and fifteen, though right here.

1043
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: Dyah exactly. Turning fights down doesn't mean shit to me,

1044
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 1: to be quite honest.

1045
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Shouldn't that be a loss? In Nate Diez's book, you

1046
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: turned to fight down to a lot.

1047
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: So we're asking, by Diaz logic, is this count as

1048
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: an EL? I guess it?

1049
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: Does?

1050
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: You know?

1051
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: We took an el today by Diaz.

1052
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: If Nate and Habib fought in the cage, according to

1053
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Nate Logic, it would be the third time you'd be

1054
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: the rubber man.

1055
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: All right, well you referenced.

1056
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 3: Josh Thompson, the great voice of bellat Or, former Strikeforce

1057
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: fighter and UFC fighter, posted this in response to Nate.

1058
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: Tough to argue with that. I think he wins.

1059
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Luke Bader Ginsburg rules in favor of.

1060
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to our next case, the

1061
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: people versus Luke Thomas. No, it is Connor McGregor and

1062
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: Fabricio for doom got into what the how did this

1063
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: thing start?

1064
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: I miss all of this because I don't follow any

1065
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: of these.

1066
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: So I missed this too.

1067
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: Shout out to Mikey mormere, a producer, for finding this

1068
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: McGregor quote, tweeted his teammate Cavanaugh Okay, he said, it

1069
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: is crazy to think Bellacher may still do not have

1070
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: a performance enhancing drug testing system in place. They do,

1071
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: it is long overdue time the promotion adopts a reputable

1072
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: testing body blah blah blah in order to.

1073
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: So they actually do have one with the mohegan Son folks,

1074
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: Mike Mazzoli.

1075
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so then Connor, so that's yeah, that's the Mohan.

1076
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: You can say you don't think it's good enough, but

1077
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: they do have one.

1078
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: I mean there was the combost life situation where he

1079
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: failed the test and then we're going to promote him.

1080
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: In Europe again. You can say it's shit, like the

1081
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: argument that it doesn't exist is technically wrong.

1082
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: So Connor taking shots at Belatoor ver Doom, who some

1083
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: people think could get signed with Belator soon comes out

1084
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: and losers will always try to find excuses. Champions work

1085
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: very hard and don't distracted by ants. Right at Cyborg's Gloves,

1086
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: which isn't even the real Cyborg is a living legend.

1087
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: McGregor is the son of a bit Yeah, that would

1088
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: be that.

1089
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: That would be that, Okay, so we have that go

1090
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: a nice little comeback there from Verduom McGregor fires back

1091
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: with a counter huh, I did not mention Chris whatsoever.

1092
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with Chris at all. It is a

1093
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: respect to the prof.

1094
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 3: There's a request to the promotion as a top tier

1095
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: one to up its PDED program as currently there is

1096
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: zero in place.

1097
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: It's a dangerous business. Blah blah blah. Okay, okay, Connor,

1098
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: I got you.

1099
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: And then he came for ver Doom one last time though,

1100
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: because Connor got man fuck you. He's like, actually, uh,

1101
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: aren't you banned for steroids?

1102
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: Bro?

1103
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: You got your centens reduced for ratting other people out?

1104
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: You know Connor hates rats, does he?

1105
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: And also just recently signed to this promotion I speak of, yeah,

1106
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: f you.

1107
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: Uh. Then for Doom pulled out his boomerang and threw

1108
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: it at Colby Covington. No, he came back with the

1109
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: funny thing is it was because a girl one that

1110
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: trains at your gym, Shineade Kavanaugh posted a tweet about

1111
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: testing following Cyborg beating her up.

1112
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: So that's where the cyborg connection.

1113
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: But why did he tags Cyborg's gloves and who the

1114
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: fuck is that?

1115
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: And now Dune says, why are you backtracking? And then

1116
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: we got Verdom. He has been pissed off, and hell

1117
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: has no fury like a verdoom. Pissed you do scarface

1118
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: amounts of coke. You come never popped.

1119
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: You got arrested for showing up naked in the pub

1120
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: and you are a rapist.

1121
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: Whoa wow. They go for the jugular on He's not done.

1122
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: He's not done.

1123
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: An alcoholic, a coke head should not worry about testing anything.

1124
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: Cocher always does a good job. It's three am in Ireland.

1125
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: You must be lonely. Too much cocaine and drunk, you

1126
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: tell us? All right, he didn't stop there, but it's

1127
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: really just at nauseum.

1128
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: At that point, I didn't see it. Yeah, he's going

1129
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: for the.

1130
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: Jug He's posting a link to Connor's sexual assault accusations

1131
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: and he's going you shouldn't manage any females because you

1132
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: cannot be trusted with anyone's daughter or wife.

1133
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: When I see you, I'm gonna give you the Brazilian slap?

1134
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: Have you ever had the Brazilian slap?

1135
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Mercifully?

1136
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 3: No?

1137
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: All right, I don't think.

1138
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: Okay, this is why she tap just like you was

1139
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 3: that was blenco Right, I don't know anymore?

1140
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: Can you rule in here?

1141
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: For dooom threw his weight around here defending Belatour and

1142
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: Cyborg and all Brazilians.

1143
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: But this ain't Kolby Covington's going against.

1144
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know what to say that is.

1145
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: That's a lot to digest right there.

1146
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: You know, you know, at least Rumble fits it into

1147
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: one tweet. He's like, you got a problem with me? Okay, yeah,

1148
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the BBC bro and we're done.

1149
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: We're done. Then he called him loose booty and every

1150
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: other thing. But you're right. It was within is it

1151
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty characters? Whatever it is now, he

1152
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: kept it. There was an economy of language. He was

1153
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: parsimonious to a degree. This guy just brought out the

1154
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: fucking hammer. He did.

1155
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: He dropped it on him.

1156
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: You know that the people are now catching on to

1157
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: my new nickname BBC Big beij Campbell, long and strong,

1158
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: down to.

1159
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Get the friction on. No one calls you that you

1160
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: should see my dms. They're spectacular.

1161
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, full of other people's dicks. I'll pass all right, No, thank.

1162
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's SJW for the week. We're trying to piece

1163
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: this shit together. Oh yeah, no homework this week, guys,

1164
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: Luke and I, as you know, will be hanging out

1165
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: later late night hotels.

1166
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: A little bit of red shoe diaries coming back.

1167
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: For you, all right, room service diaries, yes, thank you.

1168
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: It's not going to be soft core porn. Okay, Well,

1169
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: with that in mind, let's talk about this a little

1170
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: bit here, b see, we'll go into our deep dive

1171
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: segment of the week. Anderson Silva, it appears that his

1172
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: run has come to an end or has it? Here's

1173
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: what we think we know he had. It was initially

1174
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: reported that Anderson Silva's fight this weekend against Uriah Hall

1175
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: was going to be his last, and then this morning

1176
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: it was an interview with ESPN's Area Hawane where he says,

1177
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: well find Canadian journalists, where Silva says, it's definitely my

1178
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: last fight in UFC, but it may not be. Will

1179
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: We'll see after that. If you listen to him say it,

1180
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to put words in his mouth,

1181
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: but it just appears that, like he definitely you.

1182
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: Listen to that interview, you don't feel like he's done.

1183
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: Ariel did ask him, are they making you retire?

1184
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: No?

1185
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: That is not a conversation that happened.

1186
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: They did argue back and forth about does Silva have

1187
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 3: one fight left or two fights left on the deal.

1188
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: It seems like there's an additional fight left on the

1189
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: deal after this, Luke. Yet we saw Silva double down

1190
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: twice in this interview and say, you know, this is

1191
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: really just the end of my UFC run. We'll see

1192
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: what happens with the other organizations. Gun to your head,

1193
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: he's forty five. Yep, he's one in six with the

1194
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: one no contest since twenty thirteen.

1195
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: Will give him the benefit of the doubt. He's face

1196
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: top competition. Some of those fights, the Bisping fight could

1197
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: have gone the other way.

1198
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: Some bad matchmaking, some injuries, some bullshit against Wideman that

1199
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: was his fault as far as the whole thing falling

1200
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 3: apart right, drug tests, injuries, a little bit of both

1201
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 3: here in terms of what you look.

1202
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: At over the last seven years. Do we see Anderson

1203
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: Silva again after this Yaria half, Yeah.

1204
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Now, Where and under what circumstances

1205
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: that one I cannot say with any degree of certainty.

1206
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: But he did not sound like a man who was

1207
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: at all done in fact, he was talking about how

1208
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: important it was that he continued that the fans demanded

1209
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: that he continued, that this was a cause for him,

1210
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: not an option that he could go forward with. But

1211
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: here's how I want to frame the conversation. BC. Let's

1212
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: assume for the second that we can say it's his

1213
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: last fight in UFC. Here is his UFC run. He

1214
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: entered the UFC in June twenty eighth of two thousand

1215
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: and six, and this is what he has done since then.

1216
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: He beat Chris Leban, Rich Franklin, Travis Luder, Nate Markquart,

1217
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: Rich Franklin again, Dan Henderson, James Irvin, Patrick Ktaey, I'm

1218
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna stop making fingers for it, Tallas Lights, Forced Griffin,

1219
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: Demi and Maya chill Son and Vitor belfour. You should

1220
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: know Comedy chill sogn It again and then Stefan Bonner. Now,

1221
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: since then we all know the story. Two losses Chris Wideman,

1222
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: the no contest against Diaz, the loss to Bisping somewhat controversial.

1223
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: The filling against Daniel Cormier last minute doesn't really count

1224
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: a whole way.

1225
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 2: I heard him her him to the body.

1226
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: He did hurt him to the body, he did beat

1227
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: Derek Brunson. Yeah, it was a terrible fight, and then

1228
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: he lost to Atasigna, which was fair, and then he

1229
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: had the injury against Jared Cannoneer. Here's what I want

1230
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: to say though, Yeah, you know, he went into the

1231
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: UFC by the time he fought uh Chris Lieban, he

1232
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: went into that fight with the seventeen and four record.

1233
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: He was coming off the long back win over Tony

1234
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: Fricklin and Cage Rage. What can you say about if

1235
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: this is the end, what can you say about Silva's

1236
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: run in the UFC?

1237
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: Absolutely spectacular, certainly without question, a no brainer. Will Hall

1238
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: of Famer for sure, but no brainer finalist in this

1239
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: group of three, four or five who have a legitimate claim.

1240
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: At the throne of the greatest of all time. I mean,

1241
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: there's no question about it.

1242
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: The record for title defenses he had for a long

1243
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: period of time before Demetrius Johnson broke it.

1244
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 2: The consistency.

1245
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 3: But I think what separates his legacy from me Luken

1246
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: makes it a little bit unique compared to George Saint Pierre,

1247
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: compared to even John Jones. And by the way, it

1248
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 3: is a little bit of a shame that he didn't

1249
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: get super fights with either of them. When you look

1250
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: back at both scenarios in that situation, is that he

1251
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: transcended the sport. Yes, but he transcended it in a

1252
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: way of artistry that none of those other guys have.

1253
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: John Jones have come close at times, But Anderson Silva

1254
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: was a freaking video game. Whether your favorite moment is

1255
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: the front kick against bellefour or the ridiculous soul cleansing

1256
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: he did against Forrest Griffin where it's just like, you know,

1257
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: being either, or even the one against Bonner by the way,

1258
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: shout out to Bonner for forgetting full tan getting the

1259
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: abs and then Juice into the gills for that one

1260
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 3: for the big But you know, whichever of those moments

1261
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: that you pick. Luke, he reached the level where it's

1262
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: not just a habieber John Jones prime dominance, where you're like,

1263
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: find me somebody that can beat him. It's a different thing.

1264
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: It was more like, is he going to be able

1265
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 3: to find a way to beat somebody that I never

1266
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: thought of before?

1267
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: That I never thought I.

1268
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: Could see in an elite fight, in a dangerous fight

1269
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: against another guy on his level. He would do things

1270
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 3: that just didn't seem fair normal possible. His mastery and

1271
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: control of the moment was something that I don't think

1272
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: really any other UFC fighter, even when McGregor was red hot,

1273
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 3: really ever reached a level of respect.

1274
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 2: In awe that people had for him. It was jordan Esque.

1275
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 2: It was sort of like otherworldly.

1276
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: Nobody's had that, which is why even to this day,

1277
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 3: with the drug thing, we can talk about that more,

1278
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: with the hanging on too long, with this long losing streak,

1279
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: with the everything considered, if you still have Anderson Silva

1280
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: as your greatest of all time, what.

1281
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: The hell can you say against that? You really can't

1282
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: say anything against it. It's preference.

1283
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: At this point, he has ticked every box across the board,

1284
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: and I think he's uniquely different than all those other

1285
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: guys that he's up against.

1286
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if we look at the entirety of his

1287
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: UFC run, I don't think you can say it's the

1288
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: best UFC run ever because there's just too many losses

1289
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: here at the end. But if you wanted to go

1290
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: from the debut against Chris Lebin all the way up

1291
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: until the Stephan Bonner fight, you are talking about, like,

1292
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: what is a sixteen fight run, whatever it is ends

1293
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: up being, that is maybe the best run of that

1294
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: number of fights any fighter has ever had at any

1295
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: point in MMA history ever, Like that is how good

1296
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: that is. And to your point, it's not just that

1297
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: he had his hand raised at the end, although that

1298
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: you could make that consideration as well. It was that

1299
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: he redefined what was possible. He inspired your imagination. He

1300
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 1: was a figure of adoration because of his martial arts,

1301
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: creativity and his spirit. The front kick to the face,

1302
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: the on back elbow, that was one of the hardcores

1303
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: because it happened in London at Cage Rage. But you

1304
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: know again the forced griffin one. He had a million

1305
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: of these, and the clinch against Rich Franklin was so

1306
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: frightening and ferocis. And then it was always complimented by

1307
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: this sort of like Mike Tyson kind of voice, a

1308
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: little bit where he sounded a little bit like a

1309
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: squeaky mouse to a degree. And then he would go

1310
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: in there and do these ferocious things. You know, he

1311
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: made a point I draw out a sign you're talking

1312
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: about Anderson Silva. Wasn't just that he was creative. It

1313
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: was that here was this skinny black guy who you know,

1314
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: if you look, you sized them up. Okay, he looks

1315
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: like he's in shape, and maybe he's a swimmer or

1316
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: a biker or something. But you know, you put him

1317
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: next to James Irvin, who's just you know, muscled up,

1318
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: totally full of tattoos, most people are gonna be like

1319
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: that dude with the tats is gonna fuck him up.

1320
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: And James Irvin had not.

1321
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: I'll hold the leg and I'll take your had nothing

1322
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: for him.

1323
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: It redefined what was possible through fighting find what was

1324
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: possible through creativity. And I've made this point before. Habib

1325
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: has done this to the game. There are guys who

1326
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 1: do things in fights ladies too. I think Rondick should

1327
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: be credited with this, who do things in fights that

1328
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: seem impossible, and they not only make that work, they

1329
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: make it work with the kind of ease that it

1330
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: raises the overall level of the game. People talk about

1331
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: the NFL being a copycat league because someone's running cover

1332
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: two blah blah blah kind of offense or whatever, and

1333
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: the other teams looking they go, aha, we can do this.

1334
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Silva came around and showed people there's a higher order

1335
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: to fighting. Follow me if you want to get there

1336
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: and others will stand on his shoulders out of Sonya

1337
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: Habib in the wrestling department, Ben, that is a contribution

1338
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: to fighting almost. I'm not sure you could say that

1339
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: about Saint Pierre. Did he really redefine the game? He

1340
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: was very good at mastering the components, but he didn't

1341
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: really make he reimagined who was possible in terms of, oh,

1342
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: do you have to come from a wrestling background to

1343
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: get there? No, you don't, So I give him credit

1344
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: for that, but he didn't really redefine the game in

1345
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: the same way that Anderson Silva did through his creativity

1346
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: also makes.

1347
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: Some different compared to those and you touched on certain

1348
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: parts of this, and this is that like he became

1349
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: a crossover attraction on a level that no one else

1350
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 3: really had from just the standpoint of I want to

1351
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: see him do crazy shit, right.

1352
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't even about wins or losses.

1353
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it was about is someone going to be

1354
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: able to give him a problem, But it was more

1355
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: about I want to see what he does next in there,

1356
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: which is unique to himself. But even though he went

1357
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: in there to win, let's make no doubt about it.

1358
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 3: And even though Luke he did have that weird hiccup

1359
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: with Damian Meya where he was sort of acting out

1360
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: and it was a boring fight, and all that.

1361
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: He was a guy who.

1362
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: Didn't look for the easiest way to win. He always

1363
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: looked for the most spectacular. He always looked for the

1364
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: way to elevate what was possible and elevate his game

1365
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: in the moment that was so fricking fan friendly that

1366
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: he reached a level of stardom with barely being able

1367
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 3: to speak English and barely being able to sort of,

1368
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: you know, with that that very soft, defeminate voice almost

1369
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: that it's pretty badass that he's been able to juggle

1370
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: that and be such a ambassador of the sport, be

1371
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: such a proponent of bushido and sort of carry that

1372
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 3: out really into his late thirties where he was still

1373
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: super assolete, and even into this losing streak, he's had

1374
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 3: some serious moments.

1375
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: I'll throw the out of Signia fight out there.

1376
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: I know you don't necessarily believe that he sort of

1377
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: disarmed Israel with a certain degree, but he came that night,

1378
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 3: whether it was artificial or not, he came ready for

1379
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: a fight. You were gonna have to beat him and

1380
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: his ability to not necessarily age in that regard as

1381
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: sort of extra special as well, you know, not a

1382
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: trash dog guy. He was just all about the fans

1383
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: and that connection to the fans. I fear though we'll

1384
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: leave him hanging on way too long.

1385
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: One more note about that before we talk about some

1386
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: of the downside. If you came to the UFC a

1387
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: little bit late, or you know, you just missed the

1388
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: two thousand the pre two thousand and six portion of

1389
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: his career, then you miss the fact that he had

1390
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: this career before the UFC. Yes, but he had really

1391
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: interesting moments before the UFC. So the one I would

1392
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: highlight is two of them. One he beat Alex Stebling,

1393
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: which was really important. Steebling came along and pride for

1394
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 1: a time, and he beat a couple of Brazili guys

1395
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: and then gave himself I think, the nickname the Brazilian

1396
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: killer Boy. They did not like that, so they sent

1397
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva to go fuck him up, and that is

1398
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: exactly what happened along the way. So that was one piece.

1399
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: The other piece was he defeated in London Lightning Lee

1400
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: Murray in his prime in two thousand and four and

1401
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: Lee Murray man everyone knows him as like, oh, he

1402
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: was a guy who fought at MMA, who also was

1403
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: part of this incredible bank heist and the bank High

1404
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: Story BCE, as you know, is so huge and so fast,

1405
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: and the furious crazy people can't believe it. They want

1406
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: to know more about it. I understand, But if you

1407
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: can just for a moment, divorce that and just ask,

1408
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: wait a second, how good was Lightning Lee Murray. He

1409
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: was fucking good. He was very good. And Anderson Silva

1410
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: went into this fight widely disregarded and beat the breaks

1411
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: off of Lightning Lee Murray in his hometown without any issue,

1412
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: had the guy begging for his life near the end

1413
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: of that contest. He did shit like that, and then

1414
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: went to the to Pride and then went to UFC,

1415
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: and then at UFC in his thirties, had basically the

1416
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: best run any fighters ever had. It's fucking ridiculous.

1417
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: It's crazy, and it all, you know, it all seemed

1418
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: to change for him at UFC one eighty two, I'm sorry,

1419
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: one sixty two against Widman in that first fight, you know,

1420
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: the injury happened in the second fight seven years ago.

1421
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: Was it gonna catch up to him anyway. I look

1422
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: back at that.

1423
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: First fight and how it went, and it just to

1424
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: see a guy lose in such a sort of a

1425
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: bullshit way.

1426
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: That's his fault.

1427
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: That's sort of, you know, doing the bullshit thing too

1428
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 3: much that you shouldn't do, and he got caught for it.

1429
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: Was it inevitable that it was going to fall apart anyway?

1430
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think he was doing a lot

1431
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: of that because he just wasn't feeling it that night,

1432
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: and I think he was just trying to find a

1433
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: way to get him into the fight or get Chris

1434
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: out of the fight, and he just went to the

1435
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: well one too many times, looks. I mean, once time

1436
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: interviewed Matt Brown before the WonderBoy fight. This was in

1437
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta when Rashad fought John Jones, and I asked him.

1438
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you make about his kickboxing record.

1439
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: He's like, Look, I'll be honest with you. I don't

1440
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: know any of his motherfuckers he fought. I don't think

1441
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 1: anybody does, because I'll tell you what. At the point,

1442
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: I think Wonder Boy had like a fifty or sixty

1443
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: fight winning streak in kickboxing. He goes, but let me

1444
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: tell you why I respect it. He goes, do you

1445
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: think that all fifty or sixty times that he showed up,

1446
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: that he wasn't injured, that he felt great, that he

1447
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: had a good night of sleep, that he wasn't sick.

1448
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: He goes, there are guaranteed times he went in there

1449
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: feeling like ten percent of himself and he still was

1450
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: able to get the win. He goes. That consistency tells

1451
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: you how good he is. Not the names, but the

1452
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: ability to show up time after time after time. But

1453
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: you can only do that for so long, even if

1454
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: you're the great Anderson Solva. That's what I think.

1455
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's be let's be harsh here. Has he

1456
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: hung on too long? Yeah, without question, no doubt about it.

1457
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: Now he hasn't disgraced himself.

1458
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: But then again, a one in six record in eight

1459
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 3: fights and injuries and multiple piped situations.

1460
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: Supatility has done bc. He has helped people forget who

1461
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: he was. He has had a series of boring performances.

1462
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: He had the injuries which has cost him time, which

1463
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: you know to accept is that his fault, not necessarily,

1464
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: but he's you know, part of the architect of that

1465
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: the ped stuff has not helped. I don't think I

1466
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's been super damaging, but it's not helped.

1467
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: And then you know, age has also been a contributor.

1468
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: And so folks are looking at this fight with Riah

1469
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: Hall and are saying how competitive it is. It Maybe

1470
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: it'll be something like the Atasignia fight where he takes

1471
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: a defensive posture that is a little bit hard to unlock,

1472
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: and so I think it fools people into think how

1473
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: competive it is. But he did win around on the

1474
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: judge of scorecards, and so in that sense, it kind

1475
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: of was or maybe he goes out right and the wins,

1476
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: but there's a sort of this feeling that like, however

1477
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: good he was were, we've lost that and we're not

1478
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: going to get it back. And now we just have

1479
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: this dude who's surfing on a resume at this point.

1480
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's quickly hit this.

1481
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: We got a lot of hate last week when we

1482
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: did the goat debate in light of Habib, you know,

1483
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: retiring unbeaten and who's better Habib or Jones and all that,

1484
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 3: and you made a comment that I sort of agreed

1485
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 3: with you. And look, it's taken me a while to

1486
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: get here, but it is that we're not holding the

1487
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: peds against some of these guys in the goat debate

1488
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 3: who have PED issues opening blatantly and honestly because you

1489
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: and I both feel like we're at the point the

1490
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: guys with money are ahead of the testers anyway, the

1491
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: majority of opponents these guys fought along the way we're

1492
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: probably using.

1493
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, there's a lot of people who are hurt about that.

1494
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, but are hurt on.

1495
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: The level of like, that's an irresponsible take because of

1496
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 3: how dangerous it is to go on.

1497
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: You're responsible to buy into nonsense. Let me tell you

1498
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: how the camera we on. I don't know.

1499
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: Wowk, hey, we're going here.

1500
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: We got guys this no, no hold on. This is

1501
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: not some like fire and brimstone thing. I'm just honestly,

1502
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: we're trying to reason with people, folks. If you want

1503
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: to be that hardcore about how we include or not

1504
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: folks who have any kind of known or suspected relationship

1505
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: to perform some enhancing drugs, you have to do away

1506
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: with the Hall of fame altogether. You can't do it.

1507
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: It's not coherently possible. Even if you wanted to say

1508
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: you could start in the USADA era, even then, you

1509
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: can't do it. It's not possible. So if you want

1510
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: to have a hall of fame where you honor fighters

1511
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: who camp he did at the sport in various times,

1512
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: you have to understand that's going to come with inextricable

1513
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: drug use, even and especially at the elite level Anderson

1514
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: Silva has. I mean, first of all, he fought in pride.

1515
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: You can just imagine every one of them was on

1516
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: something all the way through Cage range anything two thousand

1517
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: and six and prior anything pre use.

1518
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 3: It wasn't legitimate drug testing back then unless you took it,

1519
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: unless you took nothing to block it, and you went

1520
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 3: in there straight up to a BIS test.

1521
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: Even now, there are tons of ways to get around it.

1522
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to point out to you it's not

1523
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: possible to have a hall of fame where you honor

1524
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: the history of the sport and then suggest you can

1525
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: have one that's drug free. All of your heroes in

1526
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: MMA most likely have either taken drugs or taken drugs

1527
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of time, not the entirety of

1528
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: their career, but a certain amount of time. I mean,

1529
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: he had those two losses to widemen, but they had

1530
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: the devastating injury, right, I mean he came back in

1531
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: what less than a year or about a year or something.

1532
01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you think you can come back.

1533
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna be naive anymore in all sports.

1534
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 3: But look, I've covered boxing and we may at the

1535
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: highest level so of you, Luke, We've seen things with

1536
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: our eyes that just like I mean, things that guys

1537
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: are doing.

1538
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: And the guy went on his best run in his

1539
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: thirties BC. Do I really think the entirety of that,

1540
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: the entirety of that was drug free? Of course, I don't.

1541
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: I think it's almost getting to the level and look,

1542
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: this made you know, anger people where if you're not

1543
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: doing it, you're not being as smart as you could

1544
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 3: be to protect yourself, knowing how many others are. And

1545
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 3: maybe and look, I'm just I've gotten to that point

1546
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: where I'm just not gonna believe that everything I see

1547
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 3: is the eupity because somebody didn't pop. I mean, you

1548
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: know I've seen enough when people do pop, they do

1549
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: make a mistake, they do whatever.

1550
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, testing is for the dogs and it's and

1551
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: it's theater for low information fans. And it hurts to me.

1552
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: I know when I say that, people want to dismiss it,

1553
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: and it hurts. But the evidence on this is.

1554
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: So I came around. I came around.

1555
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you. That is, that is what it is?

1556
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: Your favorite Anderson Silva moment?

1557
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: Though?

1558
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: Should We don't know.

1559
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: If he gets knocked out by Hall on Saturday, maybe

1560
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 3: we don't see him again.

1561
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: What's your favorite moment?

1562
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. So I had a guy he

1563
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: let me give a shout out if I can. He's

1564
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: one of the hosts of the midday show in DC

1565
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: on one oh six seven The Fan. His name is

1566
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: Danny Ruyer. Oh you're hit.

1567
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: I got Chad Dukes love that guy well.

1568
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: So Chad Dukes follows Danny Ruye and Grant Paulson on

1569
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: the on the channel shouts to Chad as well. But

1570
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: Chad was already an MMA fan, And I remember Danny

1571
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: and I had sparked a relationship and Danny was like,

1572
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: I want to watch MMA, so will you teach me

1573
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: how to watch MA? Will you show me some? So

1574
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: I said sure enough. I said, why don't you come over?

1575
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: And this was the fight against be toor Bell for

1576
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: he had heard about Anderson Silva, he had heard all

1577
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: the good things, and then Silva went in there and

1578
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: front kicked him in the face. There is no greater

1579
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: like this. Nothing is worst PC than when you talk

1580
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: someone up about MMA or a fighter in particular, and

1581
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: it just shits the bed.

1582
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 3: Oh you gotta see Maypack. It's gonna be the best

1583
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: fighter the third exactly.

1584
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: It's the worst. But nothing is sweeter. Nothing is sweeter

1585
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: than when you have a casual sports sorry casual m fan,

1586
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: but a hardcore sports fan who's willing at this one

1587
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: time to give M a a look, and Anderson Silva

1588
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: fucking front kicks Vitor belfour in the face. The payoff

1589
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: to this day, every time I see the guy he

1590
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: always like and some silver sil front kicking people in

1591
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: the face, I'm like, no, but I'm glad you remember

1592
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: that day.

1593
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: I gotta go with the Fort Griffin moment.

1594
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: There's never been a moment in MMA where I can't

1595
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: stop giggling because I just feel like like he just f'

1596
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 3: somebody up at such an embarrassment, no wonder, and I

1597
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: shot out to Forest Griffin in Hall of Famer, No wonder.

1598
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: He got up and ran out of the Cajun filly

1599
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 2: and was like dying.

1600
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1601
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 3: It was very caveman Rickles against MVP. By the way,

1602
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: it's just sort of like, I'm not no Moss, I

1603
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: ain't dealing with this shit.

1604
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: He reached the level Luke of sorcery in that moment.

1605
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe Griffin slow enough to always be a guy,

1606
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: he could do that too, but he moved to a.

1607
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: Five against a former champion.

1608
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 3: It wasn't in, you know, a gimme, and to make

1609
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: it look like when you're playing video games against your

1610
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 3: young child and you're just like watch the I mean,

1611
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 3: the gambles that Silva could take at the elite level

1612
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 3: and pull it off was magic. That magic is rare

1613
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 3: in the fight game for somebody to do that at

1614
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 3: that level. That encapsulates everything I love about him.

1615
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andy.

1616
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: And then there's that time he tried to positioned me

1617
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: to bring my significant other to that training session and

1618
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 3: wear the spider gear and roll with him. I'll still

1619
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: say this though he loved the interview I did with

1620
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: him on the phone. Instead of the accepting the indecent

1621
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: proposal and going to his la Jim. He loved the

1622
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 3: interview so much that his team sent me. Now, granted

1623
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 3: they sent me skin tight medium.

1624
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm not a medium. I'm a large luke.

1625
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 3: They sent me some men's clothing, and they sent me

1626
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: some hair gel. I'm wearing the Anderson Silver hair gel

1627
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 3: today to honor the damn Spider.

1628
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: But no, I would not give him my backside or

1629
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: my wife's. I don't know where that was going. Who says, came,

1630
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: interview me and you can put on my clothes and

1631
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: we can roll together and bring your wife.

1632
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: Who says that, Yeah, I don't know.

1633
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just really really nice.

1634
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe when I've gotten there and.

1635
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: He would have been like, we don't actually need you

1636
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: for this? Or would I have been the boom? My

1637
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: guy probably would have been the.

1638
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: Boom who needed a sneeze guard. That's all right, Well,

1639
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was gonna I was gonna

1640
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: contribute something real.

1641
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: No, let's get out here with the fansan mission, all right,

1642
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: let's go. Hey, big week for Scott Rizzo this week,

1643
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: one of our favorites. We got any intro for the fans.

1644
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: Submissions all right away?

1645
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: Always they can do what Morning Combat at Gmail Morning

1646
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: to combat at gmail dot com or slide into my

1647
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: dms on Instagram or Twitter.

1648
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: You have our addresses at the end of the show.

1649
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: Scott Rizzo came out this week MK Dumb and Dumber

1650
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 3: style with a little bit.

1651
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 2: Of a movie poster here, very webscream esque. Are you

1652
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: down with this? Looks like a little bit of a

1653
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: hack job on the skin?

1654
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Daniels for Harry and Lloyd every day is a

1655
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: no brainer. Shouldn't they have? Oh? I guess those are

1656
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: the character names, dumb and Dummer. I love the movie.

1657
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: You look like fucking Frankenstein.

1658
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not working for me.

1659
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: That's not working. And you know it's an okay photo shot.

1660
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll give it a bet.

1661
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 2: Underscore m underscore Rizzo on Twitter. Hey, let's go back

1662
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 2: to yuzz bite. Heear he's been hitting us a lot

1663
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: on ig.

1664
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 3: You know that famous pick of Bill Clinton sitting down

1665
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: next to the records, He put my face on it.

1666
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: My headphones are way bigger than that.

1667
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: And he's got the Genesis Abacab record in front of me,

1668
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 3: and he's got me holding the Dying.

1669
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: Fetus Ray and Supreme. Do you know what the one

1670
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: in the background. I do not know that is Jedi

1671
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: my tricks, the Thief and the Fallen, which is one

1672
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: of their best, right.

1673
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what's that bottom, right? Can you see that?

1674
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what that one? Like that one? I'm

1675
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: maybe I'm fucking that one up? Is it the some

1676
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: kind of progressive stupid assment?

1677
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 2: That is how I spend most of my time though, Luke, okay,

1678
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 2: is I got.

1679
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: To get you to that rand supreme record.

1680
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: Is Devouring Genesis is so good in the seventies.

1681
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: Dying Fetus way better.

1682
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, selling England by the pound. I should

1683
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 3: institute that as homework one week where you got to.

1684
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: Listen to that.

1685
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: I told this true story. I took my pregnant wife

1686
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: to a Dying Fetus concert in New York. We're a

1687
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: little weirded out by its weird. You just a weird

1688
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: came about? Great?

1689
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, back to Scott Rizzo. He's working overtime

1690
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 3: this week. Luke, you told that weird story about uh

1691
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: homeless lifting weights in the front yard. I think Scott

1692
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 3: put his own face on the homeless guy.

1693
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: What does that side? So many people are like, dude,

1694
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: lift with him? Do you understand that this guy every

1695
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: time he comes by he smells you know, uh not great.

1696
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: He is always drunk. But his dream is to lift

1697
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: with the so he says. I think he uses that line.

1698
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, we want to laugh.

1699
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: Do you think I want that motherfucker's COVID?

1700
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: Well chase them all.

1701
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: Shout out to Scott Rizzo's creativity here and I know this.

1702
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: The joke of this meme is that there's this random

1703
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: homeless guy. But Luke, who the frank lifts weights in

1704
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: their own front yard? What the hell's wrong? What do

1705
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 3: you live in Compton? What are just boys in the

1706
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: hood and you got a cinder block and a What

1707
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 3: are you doing?

1708
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 1: Luke? I don't my wife. My wife literally at this

1709
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: point is like if you're having a midlife crisis, can

1710
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: you just go by it.

1711
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: You don't have a basement, you don't have a backyard.

1712
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 1: I live in a metropolitan city. You have a house

1713
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: for the yard, right, Okay, so the backyard is where

1714
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: all the pets take a dump, so I have to

1715
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: do it in the front.

1716
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: Do you have a basement?

1717
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: I do, but it's a low ceiling.

1718
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like it's like an old school so I

1719
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: could squat. It's like a saw or No. No, the

1720
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 2: movie Blur Witch Project at the end of the guys.

1721
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: I could squat. No, No, it's in the corners. No,

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Speaker 1: it's livable. I mean there's we have two bedrooms down there.

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: But I can't I can reach out a touch of

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Speaker 1: ceiling with my hand, So it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's fair.

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: But so the but the front, so he means everyone

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 3: driving by, everyone walking by, all of them, see it, bro,

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 3: And what are you wearing like a wife like like.

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm wearing my Cannibal Corpse T shirt.

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01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 1: I got my headphones on. I'm not bothering anybody.

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's an element of inside of you that

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 3: wants to be seen. No, I do want to be

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01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 3: found out. You want this motherfucker in the hood to

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 3: come up to you know.

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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: I do it. I do it right what they call

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: golden hour, which is the hour as the sun goes down.

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: It's like people who pull their thing out in public

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01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: and get arrested.

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: They want you and I don't do that. I don't

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01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:25,919
Speaker 1: do that anymore.

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 2: All right.

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 3: Well, we had a small amount this week. Webscream was quiet.

1743
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 3: We had a small amount of submission. So I think

1744
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: a song, a song so nice, you gotta play it twice?

1745
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: Can we just play cal Can we play Calie Mattisen? Well, yes,

1746
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 2: come on.

1747
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 4: When eckas wm this but whifts your.

1748
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: Dreams, I'm shitting blood.

1749
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: I say that every day to my phone.

1750
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 2: The reality winds will sell it seems.

1751
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: Just everyone knows that he's doing this. You will discover that.

1752
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: So here's what we need to do. We can make

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: a music video for this, so we don't. Yeah, I'm

1754
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: down with that.

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01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 4: I'm loosing mob dreams fall flap. Oh looking Megan looks this.

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: Very rob sche very much.

1757
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: All right, thank you for the fancy missions.

1758
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 3: Morning Combat at gmail dot com, shot at the caltl Foer.

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01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: Give us a little bit more next time. Jesus Christ,

1760
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: there was hardly anything in there.

1761
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: It's your people, all right.

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01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: It's our people, speaking of our people. There's plenty of

1763
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: ways you can reach us. You can do morning Combat

1764
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Plus we're all over social BC

1765
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: and I are on Twitter, We're on Insta. You got

1766
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel, you got morning Combat on Twitter, Morning

1767
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: Combat on Insta. These are all the various places to

1768
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: follow us. Take a picture of your hog, send it

1769
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: to him.

1770
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 3: Well, Kelly was right about one thing when he said,

1771
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: Luke and BC make it look easy.

1772
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,879
Speaker 2: Nobody's doing the show like this, covering boxing mma involving

1773
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 2: the donkersons in it. Really just we'll take it on

1774
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: the road. We'll take it to the massage parlor.

1775
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 3: Luke, we are on top of the combat world and

1776
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 3: this thing's only the erection is only.

1777
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 1: Yes, everyone else who tries this is boring. We are stupid,

1778
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: but we are.

1779
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: Not more old and white and getting fat.

1780
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 1: But we bring it all right, that's right, that's what

1781
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: we do what we're supposed to do in this demo.

1782
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: If you want to try Showtime, and why wouldn't you,

1783
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: you can go to Showtime dot com thirty day free trial.

1784
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: You can check that out. If you want some gear,

1785
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: we got all kinds of gear stored dot show dot com.

1786
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: Now tonight we'll be We're going to record yes, room

1787
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: service diaries that will be up in the morning. I

1788
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 1: think I don't want to drink minimum to drink minimum,

1789
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: I tried to order forties last night and they rejected me.

1790
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: By the way, I was gonna have something ready for

1791
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: your ass. Oh, I'm sorry, real forties, right, yeah, well,

1792
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: mult liquor, it's not if you buy fucking bud. Why

1793
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: are in a forty ounce bottle? It's not a forty

1794
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: that's just extra Budwise, if you hate white people so much,

1795
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: why does liking actual malt liquor and understand the difference

1796
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: between that and beer make me hate whitey? What the

1797
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: fuck could be the connection there?

1798
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: All right?

1799
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: Anyway, it doesn't matter.

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, this week though, check out our showtime shit okay,

1801
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 3: because Tanks Davis, Leo Santa Cruz.

1802
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: It's a pay per view that matters. Tomorrow Thursday, we.

1803
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 3: Will be hosting the press conference stream, throwing it over

1804
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 3: to our folks in the Alamo Dome and San Antonio, Brancuster.

1805
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: And the crew as well.

1806
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: And Friday, the way in which is going to be important,

1807
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: Tank Davis cutting down to one thirty for this, We're

1808
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 3: gonna be there on the hosting as well, one pm

1809
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 3: for both, I believe one pm Eastern eventime.

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: Correct.

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 3: We're also going to have a live Friday, eleven am

1812
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 3: Eastern morning combat for you, setting the stage, who's gonna

1813
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 3: win and why we got a big boxing weekend. As

1814
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 3: we mentioned, Ousi's back a new AA. We got to

1815
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: get into a lot of ish there. We'll get into

1816
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 3: the UFC undercard as well. Also Belito results.

1817
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have a lot to get so Bellatore tomorrow,

1818
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: show tomorrow, presser tomorrow, weigh ins on Friday for Tank

1819
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: Davis show here on Friday, and plenty of Room Service diaris.

1820
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: So we had a lot of con're.

1821
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: Gona get Halloween costumes for Friday show.

1822
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: So I bought one and I didn't bring it. I

1823
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: bought one I was gonna wear for my daughter. What

1824
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: are you gonna go as for this year? Just you

1825
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: know myself, just a cook. I was gonna go as

1826
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo. I was gonna go with Scooby Doo for

1827
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: my daughter. All right, Well until let's see room service

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: diaries tonight and or tomorrow as Brian Campbell. I'm Luke

1829
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: Thomas for everyone at Malka and Showtime, especially the milk

1830
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: folks that with the power outage, We're not gonna blame

1831
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: them or may have caused it. The conspiracy we're not

1832
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: gonna necessarily speak about. Thanks for watching, and may all

1833
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: your games be loyal.

1834
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 3: Fifteen years ago you made your pay per view debut

1835
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 3: as a headliner against Arturo Gatti. Are there any similarities

1836
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 3: in your eyes to where Tank's brand is now to

1837
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 3: where you were entry the Gotti fight.

1838
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: I believe in team. When Tank was very, very young,

1839
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 2: I told him some day he will be fighting on

1840
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 2: pay per view, and now we're hearing I've been doing

1841
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: it for so long. I started fighting when I was eight.

1842
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm made for this, No, I'm here for a reason.

1843
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: I learn the best step of my life. As we know,

1844
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: we have a hard fight. I think the hardest fighting

1845
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: my career. There's a big opportunity for me to become

1846
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: a UK for View superstar, and that's what I wanted.

1847
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago.

1848
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 3: When I was saying I was gonna be the next

1849
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 3: paper view star, people were thinking that I was just talking.

1850
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 4: Now and that it's really here.

1851
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm on the road to be a superstar. TV taught

1852
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 2: me had a drink. It was a white jacket. I

1853
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: don't think it can be an artist and not touch people.