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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. I'm Matt Miller and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Hot Pursuit.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. We have a break from guests this week,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty good. And I think this could be

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I've ever remembered to promo the email

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<v Speaker 1>Is Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. And we do

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<v Speaker 2>have awesome guests coming up, like next week we have

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Wagner, which I'm super excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and we also have Soon Haggerty coming up too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so a couple of in different ways giants of

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<v Speaker 2>the industry, titans really titans.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon as a petite will but her impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's large Haggarty or Haggarty or I never know

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how to say it, but they've just their presence

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<v Speaker 2>has grown exponentially, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And Publand Company, Now, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not it's like media because I always see like

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Tomissa videos and that he works for them. And podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a podcast Carmulogen and others. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>obviously have the insurance, they have the auctions.

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<v Speaker 1>And Soon's really interesting because she has been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the brains and savvy behind that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so I'm looking forward to that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Wagner runs Nighthead Capital. They own at least Big

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<v Speaker 2>Steaks in singer In, which is obviously for some reason

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<v Speaker 2>the most important Portia restaurad company.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have I mean, what have they been

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<v Speaker 1>around fifteen years now?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's related to the guy from Iron Maiden, right, yes, so,

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<v Speaker 2>and they own Revology, which is a company I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of obsessed with. They build They build new nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight Mustangs. They obviously they own Herts, which is selling

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred you've heard of Herts fifty million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>debt right now. They own Yoda, a racing team. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just I think they is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the money behind a lot of name brands

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<v Speaker 1>that we know and might not think that they're all

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<v Speaker 1>actually under the same ownership.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. All of this to say, if anybody has

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<v Speaker 2>any questions for Soon or Tom, for Hagarty, or what

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<v Speaker 2>should we ask Nighthead? Yeah, please message us and then

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of stuff to talk about. You

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<v Speaker 2>have a story on the terminal about a car I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anything about, so I'm excited. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>story about the Huron successor the Bugatti Bugotti. So and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm driving a couple of interesting cars. And also, you

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<v Speaker 2>got married.

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<v Speaker 1>I did get married on Monday. I'm so start.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with that because it was so much fun

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<v Speaker 2>and it was great. So you marry Magnus Walker. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>my fella, famous designer, collector, real estate magnate. Yes. Always.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just the best. He is such a.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind and generous person.

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<v Speaker 1>I love him so much. He's a good man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was really honored to be invited to the wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>which was on a Monday morning in Washington Square Park.

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<v Speaker 2>And I I tell everybody that I went because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so excited. I'm so proud of myself. But everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 2>why why on a Monday morning? So why why did

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<v Speaker 2>you do it on a Monday morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Just felt right? You know, we're not exactly conventional sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, honestly, for a month we kind of thought

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<v Speaker 1>we might elope all together and just do a way.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to keep it simple and we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it just us, and you know, it just felt

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<v Speaker 1>simple and nice. And I had a friend who I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to be there, who was leaving for Paris

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night. So a big reason why we had it

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<v Speaker 1>Monday morning is because we wanted her to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to be with us. But Washington Square is a part

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<v Speaker 1>that Magnus really loves and is very close to where

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<v Speaker 1>we used to live when we lived in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just love New York so much. It just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a great celebration sort of. It's like chaotic,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I love it. You know, it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt it felt right. I can't tell you any other reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally get I totally get it, especially Washington Square Park.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of grew up there too. I lived on

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<v Speaker 2>ninth and Broadway. Then I moved to ninth and University,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was and I was working at Generation Records,

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<v Speaker 2>which is down on Thompson Street, so every day my

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<v Speaker 2>walk was through Washington Square Park.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love it. And the arches are really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the big George Washington Arch. I think it commemorates George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington's birthday or when he became the president. Or there's

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<v Speaker 1>some George Washington times.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought of it as just a little arc

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<v Speaker 2>de triomphan exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we kind of knew would be really pretty

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<v Speaker 1>for photos.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and you guys love Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, yeah, we do love Paris. We do have that tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it just felt, you know, we just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>something that felt simple and intimate and easy, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the answer. It's sort of easy, breezy,

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<v Speaker 1>felt natural and was fun. We had the best time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. It was great, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when the sky's clear for an event, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was worried that, you know, people would be moving,

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<v Speaker 2>like a drum circle would come over and then like

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<v Speaker 2>a marathon would run through the.

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<v Speaker 1>Protests, an interpretive dance, someone on bombed.

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<v Speaker 2>All that happened before and after, like immediately after, but

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<v Speaker 2>when during the actual ceremony, like everything worked out perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Monday morning thing really helped with that

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<v Speaker 1>because with Sunday we did go down there around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time in the morning and it was pretty busy.

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<v Speaker 1>But Monday, you know, everyone's going to work, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really I kind of just like going with the flow.

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<v Speaker 1>And trusting the universe that we found our little pocket

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<v Speaker 1>and it worked out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very cool. I loved meeting your family.

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<v Speaker 1>They're big fans of you met. They're very big, they

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<v Speaker 1>listened to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm big fans of them as well. Meeting your sister

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<v Speaker 2>and meeting your dad. And I also loved meeting all

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<v Speaker 2>of your friends, who I didn't know who they were

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<v Speaker 2>when I was meeting them, so it was like meeting

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<v Speaker 2>them as normal people. But then I'm also a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of their work because I realized afterwards that, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>follow you on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I love that that happened. I love

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. You know. That was part of the goal,

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<v Speaker 1>just that people would feel comfortable and chummy and chatty

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<v Speaker 1>and it would feel really natural.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we can get some of them to be

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<v Speaker 2>guests on the podcast, like Eli fascinating dude, Yes, Porsham alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean yeah, all those guys. Yeah, they they

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<v Speaker 1>got interesting stuff to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was great, Thanks for you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really it was really fun. We honestly wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>change a thing. I will say I highly recommend doing

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding that suits you and you know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>so wrapped up into doing a wedding for other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand why that happens, but I I highly

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<v Speaker 1>recommend keeping it as simple as you can and just

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<v Speaker 1>telling people we love you so much and we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it to suit us, and it's very freeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, awesome. Well it was. It was such a cool event.

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<v Speaker 1>I told Magnus, I'm going to commit to learning more

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<v Speaker 1>about the Grateful Dead because I feel really bad whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you refer to them, which you do quite frequently. I

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing, Like, I got nothing. I couldn't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a single song. I couldn't tell you who's in the band.

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of know Jerry Garcia is, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he died. But I will make a commitment. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to listen to some of their music and

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<v Speaker 1>I will do some research.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can help you with this, OK, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which direction? I can tell you that. So for my

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<v Speaker 2>whole middle school and high school career, part of my

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<v Speaker 2>personality was that I didn't like the Grateful Dead.

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<v Speaker 1>That was part of your identity.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all of my identities, right, So all my

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<v Speaker 2>friends love the Dead, and I like rebelled violently against it.

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<v Speaker 2>Proclaiming it country music and saying like, how can you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this crap? And I only listened to like

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<v Speaker 2>metal and industrial, you know, ministry. But when I when

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<v Speaker 2>I was dropped at high school, kicked out of my house,

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<v Speaker 2>I opened a record store downtown with some friends of

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<v Speaker 2>mine from Second Coming, and we sold bootlegs CDs of

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<v Speaker 2>live concerts, and so the customer always wants to hear

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<v Speaker 2>the quality of the concert. So I my job was

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<v Speaker 2>every day just playing these over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 2>through that I became a huge fan of the music. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and not on purpose, like trying not to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is really wow. So what you said it

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<v Speaker 1>was country country like this, I mean that's where I think,

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<v Speaker 1>what were the reasons that you were saying it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>super Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was only listening to like A C.

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<v Speaker 1>D C.

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<v Speaker 2>And Black Sabbath. It wasn't and exactly it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have that doesn't have that vibe at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, So why do people like The Grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead, Well, it's I think if you listen to it

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<v Speaker 2>in the right and you're in the right moment, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the right space, you do not have to

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<v Speaker 2>be on drugs at all. In fact, I got, I

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<v Speaker 2>really got into it. It will open you up and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the music will take you and make you

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<v Speaker 2>your life better. I think I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>describe it. Well, I haven't really thought.

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<v Speaker 1>About it, but I will go in with an open heart.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started going to shows also luckily before Jerry died,

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<v Speaker 2>but still I love going to Dead and Company and

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<v Speaker 2>I take Edna to Grateful Dead cover bands, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I recommend you start with Cornell.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's got an album.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a show that they did in nineteen seven.

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<v Speaker 1>A live show, yes at Cornell.

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<v Speaker 2>At Cornell University of Barton Hall, and it's like the best,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what got me really into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, that's the starting point, noted.

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<v Speaker 2>But also you might not like it. Some people don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the Grateful Dead.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll give it a fair shot, give it

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<v Speaker 1>the old College.

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<v Speaker 2>In that case, I think you will because you also,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never got I mean the whole history of like

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry and Bobby and pig Pen and like the whole crew,

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<v Speaker 2>like yes in San Francisco and the hate and Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like so like if you read Tom Wolfe's Electric

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<v Speaker 2>Kool Aid Acid Tests, which is a great book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, part of the cannon really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the Dead is in that book because

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<v Speaker 2>they do the acid test or they take part in

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<v Speaker 2>the acid tests Alseie's Acid Tests and it's okay, so cool, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Wait what kind of music? What is like

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<v Speaker 2>it for you? Like? What music occupies your soul?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly like synth bands, like I really like churches. I

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<v Speaker 1>really like boy Harsher, I really like I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like Grimes, you know, like her early stuff. Like honestly

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone that came that sort of came from, like

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<v Speaker 1>a Kate Bush or a Daft Punk, but like future

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<v Speaker 1>generations that that developed after them. That type of sound

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<v Speaker 1>really resonates with me. But I like, I like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things, you know. I like jay Z, I

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<v Speaker 1>like Mariah Carey. I mean, I will go to my

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<v Speaker 1>grave saying Mariah Carey is underappreciated. I love and I

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<v Speaker 1>am proud to say I love shot A Like shot A,

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<v Speaker 1>I will listen to all of them. O s Big

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Thornton is. I listened to her on Sundays. She's church.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're putting together your like the playlist for

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<v Speaker 2>your wedding, for example, or for your funeral. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be synthpop?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, I couldn't tell you who that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about cars a little bit, yes, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and start with the Bugatti Success. Well, let's start first

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<v Speaker 2>with a Z four because I drove it to your wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you did. How was that so? I had it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a B M W. Let me drive the

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<v Speaker 2>new Z four M forty I and I will say

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<v Speaker 2>the first day I drove it, I didn't really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>The drive perform I.

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<v Speaker 2>Felt like I felt like there wasn't enough weight on

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<v Speaker 2>the front, and the brakes were a little bit scary

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<v Speaker 2>when I had to use them in a hurry. But

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<v Speaker 2>after that, and I did like a little video review

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<v Speaker 2>with the camera guy here and I said kind of

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, And then after that, for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the week, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>What changed?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I just had to get used to going

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<v Speaker 2>from a Dodge Challenger, Oh yeah, to a little two

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<v Speaker 2>seater convertible. It's a totally different feel. So obviously in

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<v Speaker 2>the Challenger, all of the weight is on the front, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and here it's a fifty to fifty. The Z four

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<v Speaker 2>is a fifty to fifty balance, so it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>different kind of driving experience. But I got immediately addicted

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<v Speaker 2>to it and started driving it like everywhere. I started

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<v Speaker 2>making excuses. I started picking people up at the airport,

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<v Speaker 2>which no, yeah, in Scarsdale to LaGuardia, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pick her up, Yeah, I'll drop her off. I

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<v Speaker 2>even took someone to JFK. What so I made like

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<v Speaker 2>three airport trip.

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<v Speaker 1>That's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it at off like off peak hours, so

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<v Speaker 2>I could really drive the car. And I think also

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I forget how much I love driving a manual transmission.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he didn't mention that it's a man Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a stick.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think it's I think there are only

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<v Speaker 2>three two door soft tops that you can get with

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<v Speaker 2>a stick in production these days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the only choices if you want that experience,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like the classic six speed yeah driving experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the only thing you can get as a

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<v Speaker 2>Miata huh, the Z four or a Porsche.

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<v Speaker 1>Box dr And where does the price of the Z

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<v Speaker 1>four middle of the tube, but not not.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as exactly. So I think a Miata is

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<v Speaker 2>about four right optioned out the way you want it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Z four is about seventy five, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>less optioned out the way you want it, which seemed

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<v Speaker 2>kind of expensive. But then I then I put together

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<v Speaker 2>a boxter on you know, the configurator and the way

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<v Speaker 2>I would want it. For a box, well, I want

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<v Speaker 2>the four point zhay, you know, but it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>a good deal. At first I thought that's very expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, A Now I love the weight balance B

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<v Speaker 2>the breaks you do have to dig a little to

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<v Speaker 2>get them to stop, but you get used to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It has a steering. How tight is this?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the steering was great. It's not overly tight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not. It's not like an M car, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's the M forty I. But it doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>S fifty eight as the B fifty eight in line six,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's great. Three hundred and I don't know, three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty No, three hundred and eighty two horse

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<v Speaker 2>power I think so it's more than enough. And just

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<v Speaker 2>rowing your own gears is so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Very curious. You mentioned driving people to the airport, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course my mind instantly goes to luggage space in

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<v Speaker 1>the trunk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's surprisingly roomy in the trunk the top down, with.

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<v Speaker 1>The top down, yes, luggage space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not one of those convertibles where when you

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<v Speaker 2>put the top down you can't fit anything in the trunk.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother had a Kmaro like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When Yeah, totally useless.

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<v Speaker 2>The first car I ever wrecked was a Renault Gta,

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<v Speaker 2>which was the same, like, no, in this even when

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<v Speaker 2>you put the top down, the trunk is big enough

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<v Speaker 2>for a huge My goddaughter's suitcase fit in there. And

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<v Speaker 2>she's a seventeen year old girl who came to State

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<v Speaker 2>of this for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the truth too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's big wow. Yeah, Like I don't personally think I

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<v Speaker 2>need the convertible experience on a regular back.

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<v Speaker 1>My next question like, how are you with convertibles in general?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the wind buffeting there's none, okay, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Some genius engineered that thing, and there's no wind buffeting

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<v Speaker 2>with the top down, okay. But I always think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm configuring nine to eleven's like all day,

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<v Speaker 2>every day, and I always like, I like the shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>line of the nine to eleven cabriolet.

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<v Speaker 1>With THEO but with the top up. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not, But in real life I'm I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really going to put the top down because I'm bald,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, so I have to wear a hat. It's

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<v Speaker 2>way too hot, you know, unless you live in like

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<v Speaker 2>the northern parts of Scandinavia. It's too hot. And it's loud.

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<v Speaker 1>It's loud.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't actually it's this isn't. It's like a little

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<v Speaker 2>too loud to be on a conference call. I did

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of conference calls with the top down, and

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<v Speaker 2>also in New York City. That's not a great experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have to say I came away thinking I've

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<v Speaker 2>always wondered why BMW doesn't make the Z eight again,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it's such a gorgeous car. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is I think worthy of being a Z eight successor,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas the Z three never was. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was intended to be. And also it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>You need something a little brawnier than that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is big. I think it's I think it's about

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<v Speaker 2>the size of a Z eight in terms of the dimensions,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a beautiful design.

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<v Speaker 1>What color was the car that you had.

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<v Speaker 2>It was called Frozen Deep Green Metallic, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Matt colors. Normally I'm not a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of Matt finishes, but it really worked for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a car wash guy, so that's a problem because you

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<v Speaker 2>can't take it to a car wash it'll ruin it.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead I washed it myself in the driveway. Did

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<v Speaker 2>the girls help, Yes, Edna help, Well, you could say help.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't really a help, but she definitely was there

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<v Speaker 2>doing support. Yeah, and yeah, I just came away thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 2>even though so I'm six three, I was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit cramped.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the foot room? Speaking of cramp like in

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<v Speaker 1>the football wee.

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<v Speaker 2>Shifting Natasha, Yeah, seat, she said she had more than

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<v Speaker 2>enough room.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a tall woman and she would let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>She told me she was recently in a jag two

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<v Speaker 2>seater and there was not enough time. Yeah, and this

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<v Speaker 2>was there was more than enough room for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt a little cramped because you know, I'm used to

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<v Speaker 2>giant vehicles, so I'm used to Like right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>driving the Hummer EV. It's huge. I'm used to big trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>But I found myself thinking I would take this. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care that it's a little bit tight for a

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<v Speaker 2>huge person like me, because the trade off for that motor,

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<v Speaker 2>which is sonorous like it sounds beautiful and that transmission amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>And once I got used to the weight balance so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I really loved it. I really did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the fact that you're doing multiple trips to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport says everything. Yeah, that's a good litmus test

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<v Speaker 1>a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was your wedding car for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Love. I love it because you went back uptown to

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<v Speaker 1>get the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, drive it back down right because I had to

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<v Speaker 2>anchor a TV show until ten. Yeah, your ceremonies at

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. And I knew I wouldn't make it from here,

0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.399
<v Speaker 2>which is like Bloomingdale's down the Washington Square Park in

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<v Speaker 2>a car. I quickly took the subway down, which was awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>very quick. I love in efficient, and then I came

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<v Speaker 2>back to get it to drive to the reception. Plus

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<v Speaker 2>I plus I I realized I could take Natasha down.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a good use.

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<v Speaker 1>You appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm always skeptical when I drive a new BMW,

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<v Speaker 2>and I typically come away impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>I had skeptical because.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many haters, you know, online I spend too

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<v Speaker 2>much time in forums. Everybody's mad that it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>it used to be, or that it isn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like an E forty six M three or an E thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I find that ninety nine of people in

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<v Speaker 1>online forums haven't actually driven the vehicle. It may be

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<v Speaker 1>the case, so therefore I take their opinion with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of grains of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also usually have the first day I drive, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, the I five, I drove that and I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>not for me, and for most of the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the week, I just drove my car. I had it

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<v Speaker 2>for a week, and then the last day I drove

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.959
<v Speaker 2>it like an anger, you know, up to the mountain

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<v Speaker 2>and it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's what it needed.

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:13.679
<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>vehicles you need to have more than a half hour

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<v Speaker 2>seat time in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well that's for sure, because I do think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>first impressions are informative, but they can't be the only impression.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're used to you're you're still feeling what you

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<v Speaker 2>got out of right completely and it takes a while

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<v Speaker 2>to transition your muscle memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I completely agree. Yeah, so how's the Hummer.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that. I want to hear about the

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<v Speaker 2>body successor Okay, and then because we because we both

0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.639
<v Speaker 2>have driven the Hummer and we and yeah it's you

0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 2>probably can guess how it is kind of anyway. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear about this because I did love driving

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<v Speaker 2>the Charon.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, chirn, Now, why do you say that

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<v Speaker 1>because you're in news.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? Because that's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>I said it to myself in my head for years

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<v Speaker 2>before I ever said it to anyone else out loud. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was out forever before I finally got

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to drive it. I went up to the

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<v Speaker 2>bilster Berg in Germany and I drove it with Stephen Winkleman,

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<v Speaker 2>whoa on the track.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good drive. It was a good first drive.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very fun. I'd never driven anything with sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>cylinders and for turbo chart anyway, it was amazing. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interesting to see what they follow that up with.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what there's a call.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a turbion, turbion, the Bugatti turbion, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a w sixteen. Act noally, no, it's a V

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen hybrid.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting hybrid, I get because you can do so much

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, yeah, but it's a it's a V sixteen,

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it's eighteen hundred horse power. This is the first time

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:56.920
<v Speaker 1>they've ever obviously done this type of configuration. Top speed

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.200
<v Speaker 1>they're saying is about two hundred and seventy six miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hour. And they they they're saying like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually the hardest configuration choice for following up the Sharon,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they could have done another W sixteen, they could

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<v Speaker 1>have gone full electric, they could have tried to do

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<v Speaker 1>something different, and this was like the most difficult option

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>for them, So of course, and yeah, so of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they kind of justify it, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Bugatti Rimac is a company together.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I still don't understand the configurations.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, So Portia and Rimac formed a joint venture

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one that incorporated Bugatti. Is the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>way that I can say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally someone explains it to me, so I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so mate Rimac, who's the CEO of that group,

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>who oversees electric which is the electric Yes, is also

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>overseeing Bugatti, so now of course they're sharing everything, which

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 1>is good for Bugatti. And honestly, I don't know when

0:22:56.760 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the idea to make the Charon success or a hybrid developed,

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>because at one point it did seem like they were

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking that Bugotti could go electric, and the thing nudging

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>that was within VW. What role was Bugotti going to

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>play Because a big part of VW's business strategy for

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the next decade is electrics, centered around electrics and electric technology.

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>So when you have one hundred and fifteen year old

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>brand that's made its bread and butter on massive internal

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>combustion engines, how does that fit. So part of the

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.679
<v Speaker 1>reason why portion Rimac joined together and incorporated Bugatti was

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>to help figure out where Bugatti would fit into VW

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:47.239
<v Speaker 1>group in a broader sense. And apparently this hybrid car,

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:51.159
<v Speaker 1>the Urbion, is their answer. And Matte Rimac was on

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg TV and he said, basically, they've decided that Bugatti

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>still needs to have an element of analog in it.

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I hope so.

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes. I think that's really where they landed, that this

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:07.199
<v Speaker 1>is such an old company, it's a French company, it

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to have an element of analog something that can

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>be timeless. And they're sort of sensing that cars with

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of screens and computers may look out dated

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.439
<v Speaker 1>in ten years, because obviously technology is evolving so quickly.

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>So the only way to really stay timeless and classic

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and to know that your car in fifty years on

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>a lawn is going to look timeless in classic is

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>still to maintain some sense of analog.

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Thank God, who someone's getting that?

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I thought that was really interesting. It makes sense.

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's just marketing speak. I actually think

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>that is accurate for them. It seems logical.

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>It seems like are the other bit Like you've driven

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the new Rolls.

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Royce, the Specter, the Electric is it.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Also fairly analog? They don't have a ton of screens

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>in it, do they?

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.719
<v Speaker 1>No, they've got it. They've got a screen that you

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>can hide if you want. And actually there is a

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.640
<v Speaker 1>screen in this new Bougatti the term be on. There

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is a screen that is hidden at the top of

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.959
<v Speaker 1>the dash. You can make it appear by pushing a button.

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>But some interesting things in this one are if you

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>have there's if you have the screen hidden, you start

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>it and stop it by pulling a lever like the

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>old bugattis like you literally pull a lever and push

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a lever to turn it on and turn it off nice.

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>On top of the steering wheel is a three gauge

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>cluster that looks like sort of a mechanical watch. And

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I think this is all tied in with the name.

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>And the steering wheel turns around those gauges, so those

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>gauges are station they're planted in the center of the

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>steering wheel.

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 2>So and yeah, you said exactly. That's the kind of

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>watch that you can sort of see through.

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>It is a component in a watch that basically helps

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>it keep time. It basically makes the watch keep time

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>and keeps it on track basically.

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>For from my understanding, well, usually when they have the

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>edition of a watch, that means you can see through it.

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>And right, the fact that you're seeing through it just

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 1>means they're showing off, rightbo this thing that rotates the

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>components to increase accuracy.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's in a wristwatch. That's very cool.

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's I do think it's cool. I mean,

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the car itself kind of looks like a Sharon It

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 1>looks kind of the same.

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>The doors it was a good look.

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the doors open up instead of out, they open

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>up in like you know, billionaire doors.

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure, if you have three Commas in your net worth,

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>that's a car for you.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go. And you know the

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>price here is three point eight million euros, so that's

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like four point one million dollars. So yeah, price, the

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>price is gone up. They're going to make two hundred

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>and fifty of them. Deliveries are going to begin in

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. It's exciting, you know, it seems like

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a natural.

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 2>They went with a V twelve instead of the W.

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I was very surprised.

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And the V sixteen, sorry, a V sixteen instead of

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 2>a W sixteen. So I guess they just put two

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>inline eights together in a sense.

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't I honestly don't know. That's I don't know.

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 2>That's strange because the the reason was at W sixteen,

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess was that they had two V eights bolted together.

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 2>That's how I thought of it in my head. And

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>they also the Volkswagen Group does this right because Bentley

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 2>has the W twelve, sure right, so.

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>W is kind of there thinking of going away.

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>With interesting And did they put the U is the

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 2>electric component, like it's on the front.

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>At two on the front, one on the back. Eighteen

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred horsepower total.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the top.

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Speed of two seventy six. I did ask if they'll

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>be doing any variants that would potentially go for a

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>world record, you know land speed, right.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Because the went over three hundred.

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, they don't want to comment on that. No,

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>you know it's a it's a no comment. But I

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>think maybe we could think about that. I don't see

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>why not.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that Remac. I wonder if they would go

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 2>for it.

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I mean with a Nevara there. Remember

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 1>last year at during Pebble Brimaca just set a record

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna not remember.

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was the fastest in reverse, right, Yeah?

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that it? I knew it was something kind of quirky,

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you like care about records, which half the

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>time I'm like, does anyone care at all?

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's one that probably no. But also like

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>if James Bond is going to use that car, they

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 2>could make something of that. You know, he has to

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>go backwards super fast?

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>There you go?

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Well cool, I had I'd say Bugatti is another one

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>of those when I first saw the veyrone, I thought,

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>this is ugly and I didn't like it. And also

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>the first few times I saw the chirone, I didn't

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.959
<v Speaker 2>really love it, but it grew on me same and

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 2>by the time they did they did like a one

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten year anniversary edition that was like blue

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>on blue, and I think that.

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Was their last addition that like that is that's coming

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>off the production line like this year, and then that's it.

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was beautiful, yeah.

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it already has, so it might have already.

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I wish somebody would daily drive one of these kind

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 2>of cars. You know, some people do. No, I don't

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>think so. I think they keep them low mileage. I

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>saw on Bring a Trailer there was I think a

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety three nine to six y four turbo that

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>had one hundred and seventy thousand miles or something.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Did it sell?

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>No, it's still it still goes. As we speak, it's

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 2>still going. And it was at one fifty and I thought, wow,

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'd rather have that than one that

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>has like seventeen miles, because you know it's going to

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>work completely.

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It's actually it's been tried and tested and yeah.

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>And obviously that's not the same league as a as

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>a Bugatti, but it would be cool if somebody bought

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>a Bugatti or Pegani, you know, and then daily drove it.

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>He used it like from you know, uh, Greenwich to

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the city every day. Yeah.

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And the thing about the bugattis that I think separate

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it separate them a little bit from other million, multimillion

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>dollar cars is the cab The interior cabins of the

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Bugattis are like Bentley level of comforts and just sort

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of opulence where I I think, you know, even in

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the Remacnavara it's a little more utilitarian, it's a little

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>more minimal, or something like the Peninferina Batista. You know,

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>those are multimillion dollar electric hypercars, but their interiors are

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>not quite as cushy as the Bugatti. So like to

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>your point, you could live in it and be comfortable.

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>True, do you think it's Do you think Bugatti is

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>at the same level of luxury and design as Pegani,

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like Pegani, like every single piece is

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 2>machined out of aircraft grade aluminum, and they're maybe over

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>designed in.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't find Pegani as usable or as practical or

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, to be honest, I've never driven a Pegani.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been driven in a Pegani, but they did not

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>want me to drive it, which I'm instantly skeptical of.

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, they wanted to drive me in it, but

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't let me drive it. So of course, you know,

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why I.

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Feel like Pegani is heavier on the design element and

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>not as much on the engine, you know, because they

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>buy those motors from Daimler.

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>It's harder.

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Bugatti is all about the engineering, right of.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Course, and it comes from you know, you can't compare

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifteen years of automaking like that. You

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>can't buy that. It just is to me that is

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>such credibility and authority and authenticity. And then to have

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the backing of VW Group, it's tough to compete with

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that in any way, you know. And then with the

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>technology of Rimac, it's like, I mean, that's your dream

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>team basically.

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I suppose. Yeah, I just like Pegani has like a

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>smaller workshop, factory workshop, and they are building more like

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>one at a time. Yeah, I mean, whereas Pugatti they

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>could be building like five or six at a time practically, yeah,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>but you're.

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Still I mean, it took them years to make all

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>five hundred of the Sharon. I think they made five

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred total, and it took them years to do that,

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like they're mass producing.

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 2>If I'd either one, I would daily drive it.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cool, I hope you would.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm driving something that's crazy, right, So the Hummer EV

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>is just crazy in a lot of ways, and I'm

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 2>glad that you have driven it too.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a crazy idea, like not a

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>good idea?

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's a very good idea, like everyone

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 2>wanted to at the time, like we're all going green.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred percent EV. There wasn't any backlash yet,

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>you know. It was still like this musk is a

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>god for saving the world, you know, and everyone has

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to drive an EV and you couldn't even be mad

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>about it, like you had to agree.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>That this is our future.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>And so I love that. Mary Bearra and Mark Royce

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>are like, Okay, I see your sixty five kilowat hour

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>battery and I am going to raise it to a

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and ten kilo hour battery. I mean this

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>is a ten thousand pound vehicle. I don't know actually

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>how much.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>It weighs, but well they wouldn't tell me, but they said,

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing it told me it was over nine.

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So this thing is so gigantic. Obviously it's

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a hummer, so not like the H two or the

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>H three. It's supposed to mimic the H one like

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>an actual military vehicle. It's wide enough that I can't

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>reach my wife, you know, if she's sitting in the

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>passenger seat and I'm driving and it does zero sixty

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>and three and a half seconds.

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you do launch mode?

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, of.

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Course to freedom, which is like God to half the country.

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 2>That's an offensive sprase.

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I know. I wasn't going to repeat it.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I mean the thing is, if you're

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 2>going to do it, do it right for a penny,

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>in for a pound.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>So I agree with that.

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>It has these little American flag like indentations on the side,

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 2>which is perfect. Yeah, you know, my I have a

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 2>My French neighbor was like, yeah, if a redneck with

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money it wants to buy an EV

0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 2>this is it, you know.

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>So weird because you're right, like since twenty twenty two.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I drove in twenty twenty two, and I think it

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of just come out, and like evs are way

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>more political now, yeah than even then. And it's totally

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>weird because it is an EV, but it's got all

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>these you know, patriotic things, and it's really sad that, like,

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>if you take them on their own, an EV doesn't

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>mean anything. The flag is not a political thing. It

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>should unite us.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 2>What I love about it is that so people who

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>are anti EV will go on a rant about no

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>tailpipe emissions, but they'll go on a rant about the

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>production and you know, some eleven year old is mining

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>all the cobalt for this, and I get that, you know,

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 2>And but EV fans are like, you know, they'll push back.

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>They'll say it's still a greener vehicle than an ICEEE vehicle.

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 2>But even this is an EV that even EV people hate, you.

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Know, that's true.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 2>They feel like and by the.

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Way, it's just ridiculous. It is ridiculous.

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I was driving through town and Carsdale the other day.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I realized, if I lose control and I run up

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>on the curb, I'm gonna go up over the curb

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 2>and just like knock over that whole family, like it

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 2>could be a dangerous.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Vehicle driving wise, what did you think?

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it doesn't. At first You're like, this is

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 2>too wide, but that goes away in like literally two

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and a half minutes. For me, I guess I'm used

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 2>to driving like the F two fifty or the big

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Silverado twenty five hundred, so it doesn't feel that much

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>bigger than a heavy duty truck.

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And how has your range been?

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I have been abusing it for the last couple of days,

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think I started with three hundred and fifty

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 2>miles and I have two seventy left. That's pretty good

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 2>it is. I expected it to have like a huge

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>churning radius, like it'd have to do like five point turns,

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>but it's got a better turning radius than any of

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the other vehicles in my driveway. Yeah. I tried the

0:35:55.760 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>crab walk. It's obviously gimmicky and I couldn't really can

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 2>troll it that well, but it was still fun to

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>have tried.

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>And did you use the super cruise at all?

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Did they not yet? Okay, I haven't been in a

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>super cruise situation because I'm just driving from Sarsdale to

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 2>New York and back.

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm still a little like, you can't use it all

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think even when I use uh, you know

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 2>BMW's whatever, they're kind of semi self driving technology, is

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I only use it like when I'm on the A five,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, to Carlsrue and I'm not going to turn

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 2>for fifty miles. But I think it's probably up there

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 2>with the best of them. I don't really care about

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that so much. I like a lot of room, a

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 2>luxurious cockpit, and you know, fun stuff, so like having

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 2>thirty fives on this double wide suv is fun.

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I'm going to push back a little bit on

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the luxurious cockpit because I mean thinking it Okay, okay,

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you're saying it was capacious. Which cockpit? Yes, because I

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>would say it's it's like inside from what I remember,

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>it was extremely utilitarian, you know, like kind of the

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>inside of a truck.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 2>My thought was the designers did this on purpose so

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>that when they update the car, they'll have something to

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 2>make better.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Now, why did they give you the car now? Because

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they haven't.

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>We haven't heard new This is the new version, right

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:22.760
<v Speaker 2>three X Yeah from.

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>A business since I wonder how many of these I

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard about it in the news or from them.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>So my in terms of buying one, right, it's still

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and I think one hundred and six grand

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 2>for this version. That one version is one hundred and forty,

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and when you option it up it's going to be

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>a little more. But I've looked on auto Trader and

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 2>found some twenty twenty four's with six seven eight thousand

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 2>miles that are eighty five okay, So I would be

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>happy to let the other guy take the depreciation hit

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 2>and pick it up for because you know, the my

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.240
<v Speaker 2>most important criteria is does it fit to rear facing

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 2>car seats in the back? Yes, and it'll still allow

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>me to fully recline, and it does.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>So aren't you worried about buying a used electric vehicle

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that the battery is degraded already?

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I would I would be worried about that, yes, so

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 2>i'd have to see. First of all, I don't think

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>my wife would ever let me do this, so it's

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 2>totally not happening.

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But hypothetically, I think you can.

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>You can accept some degradation in a two hundred and

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>ten kilowat hour battery pack because it's gigantis.

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Also, I expect at some point some technology to appear

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 2>where you can swap out batteries or install a better

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>battery pack for all of these electric vehicles, not just this. Right,

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 2>at some point you're gonna want to do a V

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 2>eight swap whatever that means in electric worlds. Right.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Who's telling you that's going to happen.

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 2>No, No one tells me it's going to.

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Happen, just because I'm like, I certainly wouldn't buy a

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Hummer EV thinking in three years they're going to have

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a new battery that I can swap in.

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>No, no, No, I don't think three years. I think like

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years. Okay, there's gonna be You're gonna be able

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 2>to put a flux capacitator in it, and it'll be like, you.

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Know if in fifteen years we're actually back to internal combustion.

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>You've been talking to people at Poor Show a lot,

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 2>haven't you.

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I actually haven't. I actually I haven't been talking to

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 1>anything the past week. I'm on my honeymoon.

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, Okay, Yeah, I think that's it's a possibility.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.439
<v Speaker 2>That's a possibility. But I think look these vehicles. They're

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 2>not gonna all be just thrown away in the dumpster,

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 2>all these EV's. I mean, right, you'll you're gonna take

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the interesting ones in ten or twenty years and resto

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 2>mod them. And this is a prime candidate for that

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 2>because it's so big and so different looking. Even if

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't like the way that looks, it doesn't look

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 2>like every other jellyma.

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a question, speaking of big and different, would you

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>buy this or a cyber truck?

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>This? Hands down? Why? In an instant why. I really

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 2>appreciate the looks. It reminds me of an actual hummer.

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I love the look of that. It's why and low

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 2>you can still there's still decent visibility, especially at the back.

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Interesting And there's.

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Also something to be said for buying from general motors,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.959
<v Speaker 2>from the general you know, from a good old American brand.

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's American. Yeah, my friend.

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I know it's different, you know, is it? Yes? I

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>mean you know, Elon Musk's grandfather didn't work at Tesla.

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know we were going to do a legacy thing.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 2>No, But it's like this a GM as GM as

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 2>the tradition of Detroit, and I you know, Tesla's a

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 2>different vibe, and if that's your vibe, I'm I'm happy

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 2>for you, but it's not mine.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So okay, noted, that doesn't.

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Mean I don't like any new products, you know, I

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I would compare this to a Rivian. If I'm going

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>to buy this, Do I buy this or a Rivian?

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:56.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because I haven't driven.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't look as unusual like we're talking about.

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>The looks more like futuristic and probably more elegant.

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>More like Patagonia, Like you know, Rivian's all about we

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be the Patagonia of electric vehicles, so we'll

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>give them that, right and then you.

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Know they still have fifty horsepower squad motor version, so sure.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if we're talking aesthetics, the Hummer is

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>an iconic look and it's an aggressive affront and assault

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's not going to apologize. And I think the

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.720
<v Speaker 1>cyber truck's the same in a way. But the Rivian's

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the middle, you know, the Raven's trying

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to be like, you know, more basic.

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, so to be fair, I haven't really I've only

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>seen a cyber truck once in real life. What it

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>was shocked.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I see I see New York five a day.

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 2>That's very different there live in you know, the people

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 2>in Republic of Tesla. That's different.

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It's wild how many I see every day so every day.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Here we don't in New York. You've barely even see

0:41:56.160 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Model s's. It's just Model three, Model y Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I can't make a real call on a

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Tiber truck until I've seen it in real life and

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 2>studied it, and b I would have to drive it.

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 1>You should throw one.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I haven't driven you vince that. I'm sure I might.

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I might try that. Yeah, I also haven't driven a Rivian.

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Have you driven the Rivian? Is it awesome? I imagine

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 2>it's awesome.

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't use the word awesome. I would use the

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>word interesting and good enough.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, and the other thing is, Hannah, I kind of

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 2>gravitate towards products that make other people angry, you know,

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 2>and in a way the Hummer kind of does that too.

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 2>The soccer moms are going to be like, I'm not

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 2>happy that it's need and they're angry that I'm driving.

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>See this is true art, like art should provoke a reaction,

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and if you get people extremely happy or extremely upset.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.919
<v Speaker 1>You at least have made them feel something. It's far

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>better to do that than to just have them be neutral.

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>You know. That's an appliance. An appliance leaves people feeling like, oh,

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it's okay.

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I also like to drive big vehicles with big wheels,

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and this thing. I feel very I'm like on my sofa,

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, piloting this. Yeah, it's it's I've never driven

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 2>actually an original Hummer, and I imagine it's not a

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>good experience compared to this is a very pleasant experience.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Like when you push the pedal, it goes fast. When

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you push the brake, it stops quickly. The turning rais

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 2>as set is very tight, so you can easily navigate corners.

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm coming up to a junction and somebody

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>else is making a left in front of me, and

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking to make it right. I'm not worried about

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 2>going out too far in the intersection. Super easy to handle.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>The infotainment system is very intuitive, Okay. I have owned

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>recently Chevy products, so I know how they work. But

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 2>it's like a breeze. Are there improvements that they could make? Yeah?

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>The interior when they update it, Please update that, because

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 2>it feels like they just stuck a big screen in

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the middle and the roof panels. It has four roof panels,

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 2>just like a Bronco and when you hit any kind

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>of bump or turn a corner too hard, they squeak

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and rattle.

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the fit and finish does matter.

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean are for the most part. The fit and

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>finish is fantastic. It's just the rooftop interesting. Which if

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 2>you pay one hundred and ten thousand dollars for a vehicle,

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna buy the while.

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, what about the like have you used

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the little containers, like the storage containers like with I

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>remember in the cabin there were some sort of clever

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>storage containers that they had put in the back. In

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the front just have a store.

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been in the back other than to install

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 2>child seats.

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>My daughters love it, by the way, because you can

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:53.479
<v Speaker 2>roll down the rear window. I have the pickup truck

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 2>version and it's awesome. But yeah, there's a ton of

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 2>storage in the front for like as many big gulps

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<v Speaker 2>as you can possibly buy. And I've I've got all

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 2>the pool equipment in there. So like, as a family vehicle,

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>it's very functional. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do agree it didn't you know, you kind of

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>go into driving those things with a little like oh boy,

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>here we go, And I remember just getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>it and thinking it's fun. It's cool, it's fun. They

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>did a really good job. It's it's exactly what it promises,

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like when you look at it and when you drive

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<v Speaker 1>it and it delivers, and.

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>When you pull up quickly to some person in the

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>left lane who isn't quite paying attention and they look

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 2>behind them and see that grill, they do move over

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>to hate. Not really, but I just you know, when

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm when I'm driving through town, a lot of times

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I'll notice like a mom like give me a look

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<v Speaker 2>like how dare you? How dare you drive that in

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 2>our school district. But on the other hand, you know,

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like a nice bluish gray and it's got the

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<v Speaker 2>American flags Croco USA, and it's electric. So no, I

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>can't hate.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hate actually on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm I'm pretty I'm a pretty big fan

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I would say cool, but I'm a sucker

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<v Speaker 2>for any big truck with with big wheels.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I always come back to the g wagon.

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, it's it's an iconic shape, it's polarizing,

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it's been around forever. It does the job. This falls

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 1>into this category of it's a specific philosophy that has

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>been executed and maybe you hate it, maybe you like it,

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>but it is what it is. You can take it

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>or leave it. I really like that. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just like, give me something interesting and maybe I'll hate it,

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>but at least it's something exactly exactly.

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 2>At least it's not another jelly bean.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's not in appliance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, what have you got coming up? Anything?

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh? You know, on Monday, I'm going to go finally

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>drive the nine to eleven GTS the in Sevilla and

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>severe Yeah. Yeah, I'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice. Okay, you know, the screen is the biggest

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 2>problem that I have with that, you know, the lack

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 2>of animal I.

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Will report back speaking of you know, the Bugatti stink

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to stay analog. I guess Portia didn't. Yeah.

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's a money saving thing or

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I need to like getting rid of a handbrake, Like

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>why do that? I don't get it.

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Sure they'll have an answer.

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they will.

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>What about you? What do you have coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, so in terms of vehicles, I fingers crossed,

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 2>am going to get a Corvette E raate? Well, that'll

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>be after you come back out from Sevilla.

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<v Speaker 1>We might have an issue with that. What's that I

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.280
<v Speaker 1>seem to have I'm not supposed to be checking email

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.439
<v Speaker 1>this week, but I might have got an email where

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>they said, never mind, due to undo unforeseen circumstances, we

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>can't fulfill your press.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a bummer.

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I haven't replied to that email because it annoyed me.

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 2>But so the cool thing is we're gonna The idea

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 2>is we were both gonna drive that time. You would

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>have it in La, I'll have it here in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're getting that next week or the week after week,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 1>week after a weekend. Me too. Me too. I'll have

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to coordinate on that.

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>But I'm also excited about it because my friend David Weston,

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:14.359
<v Speaker 2>who anchors Wall Street Week, has an original Gen one

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>C one Corvette cool and cool. He lives near me.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, dude, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.240
<v Speaker 2>get this Corvette E Ray it's like the newest, most

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>cutting edge. I know it's not the Z six, but

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 2>it's like even more because it's electric, right or hybrid. Yes,

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bring it over and then we're gonna shoot

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 2>a video where David has his C one and I

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 2>have this and I get his take on this one,

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, Yeah, and I get to sit in his

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I've never been in his before, and I think it'd

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 2>be a cool comparing.

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 1>He's a big Corvette guy like he is. He doesn't

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>he is not just the.

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<v Speaker 2>One like when we had when when he heard we

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 2>are having Jim Farley on the podcast, he said, ask

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.800
<v Speaker 2>him why they don't make a sports car? He says,

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 2>he contends that Corvette is the only American made sports

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 2>car because he says the Mustang has it doesn't have

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 2>isn't the two seater? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as a Corvette owner, I'm not disagreeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'm excited to do that.

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:10.759
<v Speaker 1>And that'll be good, that'll be great. You don't get well,

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll sort it out. They can find another one. Well.

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 2>And also you will just have driven the nine to eleven,

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 2>which is.

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming.

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I hope you get to go like around the region.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, you know, I like, I like having track time,

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of course, but honestly, it's more real world to drive

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the car on on roads. So I'm imagining it's probably

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a little both.

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like track time almost does a disservice to

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 2>consumers who listen, uh to this podcast or read your

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>reviews to try and decide if they would want a car,

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 2>because and you see, like all these car journalists, you know,

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>flogging vehicles and motorcycles around the track, and it doesn't

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 2>really translate at all to what we do on the road.

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm rolling my eyes a little bit right now

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>because it's so true true. I mean, they like, look,

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>we're journalists. No one out there is a professional driver.

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Most of them, if you know, ninety nine percent of

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>them have never even you know, raced in any sort

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 1>of amateur or professional capacity, or been a drive instructor anything.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Who's going to buy the car, myself included, I would

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.919
<v Speaker 1>never I would never pretend to say that I am

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>so it is kind of you know, yeah, it's nice

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to drive on the track, but I'm so with you,

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>it's actually much more usable and relatable and you can

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 1>really sift through the car to have it on the road,

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>because the other thing with the track is it's very

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 1>very very controlled. You know, you have a specific amount

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>of labs, you have a specific amount of time. A

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of times it's lead follow, and so it's just

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it's extremely controlled, and it just seems a little like

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>this is just for a journalists bragging rights, which I

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>really don't care exactly.

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 2>You're you're gonna probably really enjoy your experience. So you're

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 2>by the way, in terms of the nine to eleven, like,

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 2>of the million piece people who've bought a nine to eleven,

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 2>how many people are doing track data in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Very small percentage, right, very small.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine if you want to go on the track,

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 2>then you're gonna get a Cayman like, not a nine

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 2>to eleven. Right.

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Every pro driver that I talked to that like drives

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>is on these drives. I always say, like, which car

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:18.760
<v Speaker 1>do you want on the track? They all love the Cayman.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 1>They say it's far more balanced and far more predictable

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and just a lot more fun and you can really

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>get really you can get more out of it with

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>less effort.

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a nine to eleven is your daily driver.

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a great daily driver. Yeah, so you should. Porsche

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:37.359
<v Speaker 2>should invite you out to commute in Atlanta, you know

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 2>they should. They should invite you to a suburb of

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta and invite you to drive into the middle of

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 2>the city during rush hour, and that should be what

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 2>you write the review on.

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Just I'll commute in LA That's fine. Atlanta seems really

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 1>hot and sticky, all.

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, So I'm excited for UH to hear about that.

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:54.480
<v Speaker 2>And are you taking Magnus with you too, Savilla?

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, sadly, what I know? I know, why not?

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 2>This seems like the perfect opportunity. You just got married.

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.919
<v Speaker 2>Now you're going to Sevilla. The two of you could

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 2>go to the Alhambra, you know, in Granada. You could

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 2>spend a few days on the beach in Marbella, you know.

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:15.959
<v Speaker 1>And he looks great in a speedo too. You should

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>really see him.

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I've heard about that.

0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:20.399
<v Speaker 1>But once we get that sunscreen on, you know, he's

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. I know, it's we have a lot

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of fun.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, I hope you have a good time,

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and do remember the sunscreen? I know, all right, So Friday,

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:34.240
<v Speaker 2>dear listener, remember to send us any questions or suggestions.

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 2>The email address once again.

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Is hot Pursuit at bloomberg dot net.

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's what we got for this week. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you back here next week. I'm Matt Miller and I'm

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Hanna Elliott, and this is Bloomberg