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He's been grabbing people, pulling them 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 6: with him. 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 5: Is Kurt Franklin. 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 6: He's a sixteen Grammy Award winning gospel songwriter, arranger, and producer. 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 5: We're both Texas boys. Kirk and I go all the 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: way back to while we sing, Jimmy, Why we sing? 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 6: After for thirty years and continuous hits and tremendous success, 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 6: bridging hip hop, pop and gospel together. Now he is 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 6: a big time television and film producer, but music is 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 6: his first love. Started with fall in Love with Christal 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 6: with Kirk, Mariah Careyy, Ron Carrey and Khalid, a new 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 6: holiday event featuring the first and only exclusive performance of 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 6: fall in Love a Christal, Kirk, A, Riah and Khalid, 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 6: with premiere on Apple TV Plus in December. 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 5: BT Plus Series has. 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 6: Given Kirk Franklin a series order for Kingdom Business, a 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 6: music driven drama executive produced by my boy Devon Franklin. 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 5: You know him. Miracles from Heaven, Holly Carter. 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 6: Up My Girl Way back two thousand, The Clark Sisters, 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 6: They set all kind of viewing records on Lifetime, The 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 6: First Ladies of Gospel and Michael Van Dyke. 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 5: The eight episode series explores the gospel. 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 6: Music industry through the lens of family, faith and love 49 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 6: and the redemptive power of music. And finally, Kurt Franklin, 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 6: executive producer, a new holiday movie. 51 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: I just saw today. 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 6: They gave me an earlier look at it. Outstanding Kirk Franklins. 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 6: A Gospel Christmas with premiere, which premiere is on December 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 6: fourth on Lifetime. The Lifetime movie stars Dimitria McKinnie. You've 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 6: heard on our sho show many times, Regina Bell and 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 6: my boy I met him when he was a teenager. 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 6: Chad Lamar Sheppard. Please work with the money made conversations. 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 5: I got a lot to say because he's doing a lot. 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 5: Kurt Franklin, Kurt, Kurt Kurk Brother, Kurt. 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 6: Man, I'm gonna say your name like that, man, because 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 6: you know, when you go to a mountaintop and you 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 6: want to hear people hear good news, you just repeat it, 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 6: you repeat it, repeat it. Kurt Franklin, Man, this. 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 5: Transition, brother, let's just talk with the fall in Love. 65 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 6: It was released November fifth, with Mariah, You and Khalid 66 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 6: and one point five million views so far in climbing. 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 6: Talk about putting that together, talk about the importance of 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 6: that particular, you know, because Mariah has the all time 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: Christmas song record, and now you're doing a Christmas song 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 6: with us, so you're. 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 5: Working with a Christmas legend. Talk about that, Kirk. 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, man, I was. First of all, it's great 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 7: seeing you. It's great so my brother who's been so 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 7: supported my entire career, that's been there from day one, 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 7: and I'm just very honored to be able to be 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 7: a part of your continuing just career and legacy. And 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 7: so it's always beautiful to connect with a brother who 78 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 7: you've looked up to for so long. Yeah, the Mariah 79 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 7: Carey project came up. She invited me to write along 80 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 7: with her and her writing partner, and so I went 81 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 7: to her home and she showed me where they were 82 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 7: with the song and it felt good, and they just 83 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 7: kind of wanted to have some different moments in the song, 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 7: and so I said down at the piano and kind 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 7: of just threw out some ideas of where we could 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 7: go with the song, how we could, you know, maybe 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 7: even do some different things in the bridge, and then 88 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 7: I had a whole idea for a vamp kind. 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 8: Of like a tape, kind of like a take them 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 8: to church vamp, you know. 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 7: And so I sat down just kind of threw out 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 7: some ideas and so we co wrote uh the record together, 93 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 7: and and I and I brought it back to Dallas, 94 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 7: and I put my band on it, put my singers 95 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 7: on it, kind of did my thing, and uh, I 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 7: mean she really loved it and just really humbling for 97 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 7: her to be able. 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 8: To really connect with it like that. 99 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 7: And yeah, and and h then Khalad jumped on it 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 7: and theyre super dope. 101 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 8: He's a great young talent, yes, and so. 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 7: And so Yeah, it's a great opportunity to just to 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 7: continue to try to have the conversation about, you know, man, 104 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 7: how gospel music in the community that come from uh 105 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 7: and just just the gravity and just the breath of 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 7: the people in it, and and and how viable gospel 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 7: music style and the message in just the community is 108 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 7: when it comes to any area of music, it can 109 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 7: be pop music, it can be hip hop, it can 110 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 7: be country music. Wherever it is, this music can live 111 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 7: there because you're talking about a part of America them, 112 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 7: and so you know, to not only is it the 113 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 7: good news of Jesus Christ, it's also music that is 114 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 7: the foundation of American music. It's the foundation of black 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 7: experience here and UH and Western civilization. 116 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 8: And so because of that, you can always. 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 7: See it's it's it's its influence and you can always 118 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 7: see UH its impact even now. I mean, every pop artists, 119 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 7: every hip hop artists, their band are a bunch of 120 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 7: church musicians. I mean I was at a snoops a 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 7: mother's funeral this past week. Snoop asked me to do 122 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 7: some music for his mother's funeral, and the whole and 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 7: this whole band is church guys. That's what I was 124 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 7: able to just and I didn't have one rehearsal. I 125 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 7: didn't have one rehearsal. I just jumped on the piano 126 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 7: with the singers and we were able to go from 127 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 7: somebody to name Jesus to sliver to my life is 128 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 7: in your hands, because I mean, you know, we all 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 7: speak that same language and so H it was really 130 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 7: exciting to bring that six UH music and to the 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 7: Mariakh Carey song, and it's very humbling to bring that 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 7: that essence of culture music to even now scripted programming 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 7: and to visual to visual platforms like uh, Kirk Franklin's 134 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 7: The Gospel Christmas. 135 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 5: You got too much. 136 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 6: You ain't gonna slide through these different things. I gotta 137 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 6: stop on great moments now you you out there with 138 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 6: you talking. I had I had Mariah Carey come on 139 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 6: down the Dallas and mix it up with the band, 140 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 6: and I was a Snoop Dogg and play with the 141 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 6: band and then you know something about the name of 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: Jesus who he knows. 143 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 5: That's my all time favorite Kirk Franklin song. Write there, 144 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: He's just gonna. 145 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 6: Slide past that, you know. Unfortunately delivered it a sad 146 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 6: moment for Snoop Dogg. But that's an inspirational song to 147 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 6: let you know there is, Uh, there is, there is 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 6: guidance for us in our sad moments, and that. 149 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 5: Type of music that you produced over the years creates that. 150 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: But I'm looking at this video, man. 151 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: First of all, I'm kind of mad because Mariah Carey 152 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 6: don't age. 153 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: She don't age. 154 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 6: I'm man, I'm looking at going, Okay, really, Mariah, really 155 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 6: you're gonna do it like this? And then then but 156 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 6: I'm enjoying I'm enjoying the video, right, Kirk, and then 157 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden. 158 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: Kirk, you you Kirk defied it. You know what I'm saying. 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: You know how you do it? 160 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 8: Man? 161 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: Come on there with that Kirk tones. I love it. Man, 162 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: a hey man, because you have a style. 163 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 6: Man, you have a presence, man, you have a and 164 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: that that that brand. Let's talk about that Kirk Franklin brand, because, 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 6: like I said, it's really when I sit up and think. 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: About we have been on this journey together. 167 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 8: Man. 168 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 5: You know, you know BT celebrations of gospel. 169 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 6: Man, we both Texas boys, you know, all journey, different 170 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 6: TV shows that he did or when I was doing 171 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 6: Sister Sister, all these different thing movie ideas. 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 5: We kicked back and forth. 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: But what is the Kirk Franklin brand Man that you 174 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 6: that you built man, because you built through your your honesty, 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 6: built through your you know the performance. You was injured 176 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: and you covered from that. So that's a journey in 177 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 6: life and you've been out there. But this brand is 178 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 6: just growing. That's what's going to allow us to talk 179 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 6: about these television productions that are coming up. 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: Talk about that, Kurt Franklin brain. 181 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 7: Oh, well, you know, this is going to probably be 182 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 7: the part of the interview that I'm going to suck 183 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 7: at the most. 184 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 8: Is because I. 185 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 7: Mean, you know me better than anyone you know in 186 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 7: this space, and I am unapologetic in my faith. I'm 187 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 7: unapologetic in my Christian faith, and I try very hard 188 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 7: to live it more than I preach it. 189 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 8: It's because I think people. 190 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 7: Would rather see a sermon rather than hear a sermon 191 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 7: any day. And so I really believe, well unapologetic lead 192 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 7: that everything that I'm blessed to do is all by 193 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 7: the grace and kindness of the Lord. 194 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not that smart, I'm not. 195 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 7: That genius to have this strategy. There may be other 196 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 7: people that are like that, but not me. 197 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 8: I mean I am, I am totally. 198 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 7: Whatever whatever I've been blessed to do, or whatever I 199 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 7: desired to do is it's all because of the Lord's kindness. 200 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 7: It's it's it's not I don't have a remedy, you know, 201 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 7: I don't. I don't have ingredients of songwriting. These are 202 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 7: songs that God loans me. These are these are these are. 203 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 8: Moments I try to be a good steward over. 204 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 7: One of my mantors in life that one of my mentors, 205 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 7: doctor Tony Evans, taught me, is I'm a manager of everything, 206 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 7: but I'm an owner of nothing. That everything, that everything 207 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 7: belongs to God. And so I'm just a steward. I'm 208 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 7: just a manager of moments. 209 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 8: And so. 210 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 7: You know, and and and I align with that ideal, 211 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 7: those those those those constructs of what I subscribe to. 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 8: And it's it's it's by the grace and kindness of Christ, 213 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 8: you know. 214 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 6: And so you know, I when he else because doctor 215 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 6: Tony Evans, he was on my show last week, and 216 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 6: Priscilla Shire and her son and you know, it's just 217 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 6: watching my show Shift. You know, it's about money making conversations, 218 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 6: but it's about life. It's about journeys and things like that. 219 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 6: And when I look at what you're doing. The movie, 220 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 6: I saw, you know, the stars McKinnie and the stars 221 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: Chad Lamuon Shepard and Regina Bell comes a fire at 222 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 6: the very top of its you know, leading the church 223 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 6: and strong women and female characters. That's what that was 224 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 6: My number one takeaway from this particular project was that 225 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 6: was that was that a purposeful motion of uh uh 226 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 6: take on this particular script, you wanted to do a 227 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 6: movie that they show women, especially black women, in powered 228 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 6: in this manner because they are very very directive. They're 229 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: showing leadership, they showing sensitivity, they showing artist all these things. 230 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 6: That's what was my number one takeaway from this, which 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 6: I thought was fantastic. 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, that is no doubt a man date for Lifetime. 233 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 7: Lifetime is very committed to to diversity and to be 234 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 7: able to give uh, women, especially women of color, opportunities 235 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 7: in front of. 236 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 8: The camera, behind the camera. And so it is uh 237 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,119 Speaker 8: uh very much intentional. 238 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 7: And and even from from the writer of the movie 239 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 7: to the to other EPs that are being the project 240 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 7: with me, Tracy, Twinky Bird and uh Leslie Grief and 241 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 7: and and and just so many others, is is that 242 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 7: it is it is intentional to be able to show 243 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 7: the diversity of who we are as people of color. 244 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 7: And I even think Lifetime even allowing me to brand 245 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 7: the movie Kirk Franklin's The Gospel Christmas shows even their 246 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 7: commitment to diversity, to to even genres, uh, to be 247 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 7: able to show that there's a viability within this space, 248 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 7: to be able to bring to even allow somebody from 249 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 7: my community. To be able to to brand a movie 250 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 7: that they spend realion of dollars to make is something 251 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: that I'm very humbled of and I and I pray 252 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 7: that the community comes out and supports it. 253 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 8: To be able to show networks is because you and 254 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 8: I both. 255 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 7: Know I'm you know, TV and film they're not in 256 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: the missionary business. 257 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 8: You know, there their money business, yes and so and 258 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 8: so it is very important that if we want. 259 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 7: Inspirational and aspirational entertainment that we've got to show up, 260 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 7: that we've got to be able to show up in 261 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 7: the numbers. Like for example, in twenty twenty, Lifetime was 262 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 7: the number one holiday movie destination with over seventy one 263 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 7: point eight million viewers of watching this type of programming 264 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 7: for the holidays. And so with Kirk Franklins The Gospel Christmas, 265 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 7: I would really love to show them that people really 266 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 7: love this genre of music and that they're going to 267 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 7: show up because they get excited like this. 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Welcome back to money making Conversations 315 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 6: as I continue my conversation with sixteen time Grammy Award 316 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 6: winning gospel singer, songwriter, arranger and producer Kurt Franklin. 317 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 5: First of all, you know it's romance. 318 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 6: You know it's romantic, attractive beads, Charles Lamus Shppard, Like 319 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 6: I said, Charles le Busshippard, before we go back to 320 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 6: Steve Harvey and I when we did his very first sitcom, 321 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 6: Me and the Boys, back in ninety four, Chad LAbau 322 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 6: Shephard was one of the kids on the show. So 323 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 6: I'm been knowing Chad all the way back since ninety four. 324 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 6: And then Dimitri and McKinney, I've been. 325 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 5: Knowing us since on the show. 326 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 6: Met a wonderful son, she's a powerful single mom. 327 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 5: And then Regina Mayle. 328 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 6: So when I watch a show like this, and like 329 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 6: I said, I just had Kelly Rowland and Brisia Webb 330 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 6: on the show talking about their lifetime project. The only 331 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 6: reason I bringing up in the interview is that lifetime 332 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 6: is making. 333 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: A commit to diversity. Like you were saying, this is 334 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 5: not a warder. 335 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 6: They're comfortable with putting us people of color on their network. 336 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 6: That's important for us to see, correct. 337 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 8: Very important. 338 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 7: But just because we have heard what's been coined as 339 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 7: this new phrase, but it's really true across all cultural 340 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 7: format is that representation matters. So that matters in any aspect. 341 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 7: Uh it's not on the gender uh gender equality, but 342 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 7: it's also race equality and and so uh these things matter. 343 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 7: These these these things matter to also be able to 344 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 7: address some of the key line things that systemically divide us, 345 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 7: like socio economic equality or disparity. 346 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 8: And so when when black folk. 347 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 7: Are able to write scripts and to be behind the 348 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 7: camera and to work on movies, then now what you're 349 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 7: doing is that you're making that that playground a more 350 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 7: more more fair opportunity for all people. Is because you're 351 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 7: not only seeing us with with uh needs on our 352 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 7: necks in the street. You're saying that we want to 353 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 7: be able to show a bigger image of the hopefulness 354 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 7: that can come from a community of people, well. 355 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 6: You know the beauty of you know, like I was mentioning, 356 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 6: like I was interviewing doctor Tony Evans based out of Dallas, 357 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 6: is about his doctor humanery and his journey and which 358 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 6: I call him is a visual Bible. It's beautiful going 359 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 6: back to Israel with his family and all that stuff. 360 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 6: And his wife is in it before she passed away, 361 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 6: has said to Daddy, who's recently passed away. 362 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 5: So it's an emotional story. 363 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 6: But what I want to say is that never in 364 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 6: my life have I seen this amount of black culture 365 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 6: on so many different unique mainstreams, you know. And that's 366 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 6: the beauty of where we're living at Kirk And for 367 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 6: you to be a person who you know, who has 368 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 6: come through the lens of music and music allows you 369 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 6: to produce videos and be a part of that directorial. 370 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 6: And one of the I'm gonna tell you that one 371 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 6: of the all time great funny entertaining videos was when 372 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 6: Kurt spoofed himself with Steve Harvey back. If y'all find 373 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 6: that video, that's one of the funniest videos of all time. 374 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 5: Where they do a spoof of Eddie Murphy. Yeah, that's 375 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 5: one of the all. 376 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 6: Time This brother right here is very funny. I just 377 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 6: popped in my head when I was thinking about you 378 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 6: laughing about that, man, But when you look at these transitions. Man, 379 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 6: now you're about to do a series, eight episode series 380 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 6: that explores the gospel music industry through the Lens family, faith, love, 381 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 6: and redemptive power of music. That's the power of gospel 382 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 6: music is the redemptive power. That's what I got out 383 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 6: of the show, your movie that was just watching. You know, 384 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 6: Kirk Franklin's Gospel Christmas is redemptive because of the fact 385 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 6: that in her she doubted herself, she didn't believe she 386 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 6: could accomplish. 387 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 5: The task that her parents knew she could do. 388 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 6: And that's really powerful content for young people to see, 389 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 6: and especially for black people to see. 390 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I think that that that. 391 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 7: The narrative of the black experience in North America is 392 00:20:49,640 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 7: so transferable over socioeconomic lines, religious lines, uh lines of 393 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 7: academia and scholarship. Is because as people of color, we 394 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 7: speak these the secret languages, these these these these. 395 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 8: Waves and and and and and. 396 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 7: These energies that that are just transferable. 397 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 8: To our people. 398 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 7: We we we know what this means, you. 399 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 8: Know, we we know what this means. Yes, you know 400 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 8: what I'm saying, you know, you know, you know you 401 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 8: know and and we understand it. If you went to 402 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 8: an HB c U or if you went to an Ivy. 403 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 7: League school, you understand the heartbeat of our people and soul. 404 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 8: For Hollywood two uh uh. 405 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 7: To not always continue to appropriate our experience, but to 406 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 7: include us and our own stories. It just makes for 407 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 7: a for for for a more civil society when people 408 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 7: feel like they matter and they're experiences are not being plagiarized, 409 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 7: but they are being they are being compensated for the 410 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 7: uniqueness of how God made it. 411 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 6: Before we get into the drama series Kingdom Kingdom Business. 412 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 6: Now the Apple TV plus that you're doing with Mariah 413 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 6: Carey Khalid, what exactly is that? And it falls the 414 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 6: line of Christmas. What exactly is that? It's going to 415 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 6: air in December? 416 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean we all know that Mariakh carrige 417 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 7: Christmas song is the biggest, biggest Christmas song in history, 418 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 7: her single All I Want for Christmas Is You. And 419 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 7: so with this new single that we were part of, 420 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 7: she presented a or She's going to be a part 421 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 7: of a Christmas special featuring her and it's going to 422 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 7: be a big production for Apple TV for the Christmas holidays. 423 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 8: And you'll be able to ge and watch it. And 424 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 8: of course me and. 425 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 7: Khalid will be performing right so, and it's a major production. 426 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 7: She's going to be doing several different songs and so 427 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 7: it's a big event. It's going to be a big 428 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 7: event for Apple Plus. And there's no release state for 429 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 7: it yet. Apple wants it to be something that is 430 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 7: kind of a shock value moment. 431 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 8: But it will be the only. 432 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 7: Place that you'll be able to see the performance of 433 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 7: us three together for the song. It's an exclusive performance 434 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 7: and so it's going to be a very big night 435 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 7: once again for the coaching. 436 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 5: Wow. 437 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 6: Now let's go on to my main you know, Kingdom 438 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 6: Business eight episodes. 439 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: Okay, Holly Carter, you know the var Franklin. Franklin, come 440 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 5: on now, talk to talk about this new series. Man. 441 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, man, we were working on this project for about 442 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 7: three years, just just. 443 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 8: Just working in development. 444 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 7: Sachmar and Sagmar and lean Hart are two beautiful white brothers, yes, 445 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 7: that had this script that I had a story about 446 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 7: gospel music and faith and challenges and drama and and 447 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 7: and just the realities of of of like real life 448 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 7: experiences that are all the backdrop of this incredible opportunity 449 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 7: for music. I'm also the not I'm also one of 450 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 7: the executive producers. I'm the music supervisor, and so by 451 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 7: God's grace, I'm writing new music for every episode, every scene. 452 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 7: Uh that that that gospel music is now being a 453 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 7: part of telling biggest stories and so like you'll hear 454 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 7: music in the episodes that are that are from from 455 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 7: the culture, but they speak to the moments that the 456 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 7: that the script requires. 457 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 8: And it was a wonderful opportunity. It was hard. I'm 458 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 8: in the studio right now finishing one of the songs 459 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 8: right now. 460 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 7: I was here till five o'clock this morning just kind 461 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 7: of finishing up the song. And I'm back today for 462 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 7: the band and singers while doing interviews for for Kirk frankl. 463 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 8: Is the Gospel Christmas. 464 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 7: So you know, it's it's, it's it's been a lot 465 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 7: of work because Kingdom business is a it's it's uh, 466 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 7: it's it's episodic, so you know, you know, so so 467 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 7: you're having to wait on the scripts to be able 468 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 7: to know exact what's happening, you know. 469 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 8: And I've got a couple and. 470 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 7: And I'm also a character in in a in a 471 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 7: in a few of the episodes, I make these cameos 472 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 7: as a very left of center character. It's not it's 473 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 7: not what's what's what's expected of me? And so you know, 474 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 7: just it's I just let me tell you what my motors, 475 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 7: OPERENDI is are life. I mean, everything we've talked about today, 476 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 7: the bottom line is what I want, my friend, Sean 477 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 7: is I just want to make God. 478 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 8: Proud of you. 479 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 5: Brother. 480 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 6: You know when I before we got on the mic, 481 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 6: I was like jumping for joy for you, because you 482 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 6: know when I see people make transitions. 483 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: And I can remember, man, when we was on the 484 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 5: Say of Sister Sister. 485 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 6: Way back then, you know, and it was like, wow, man, 486 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 6: I'm seeing my brother man. 487 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: And you know, I loved it when you was. 488 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 6: Hosting the gostel Or Singing Competition. I just love that 489 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 6: seeing you do that. Man, that was one of my 490 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 6: favorite shows, just watching you man, just just so smooth 491 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 6: and so articulate. Man, just on the porn and just 492 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 6: knowing that you cared about people where they want all lost, 493 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 6: you know, because it was a journey and to see 494 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 6: you now this is this hardbreaking, this rolling into being 495 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 6: a television introducer and you're doing both hats. You're executive 496 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 6: producing and also you're a music director, and so people 497 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 6: understand what he's saying. He's saying that. We talked about 498 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 6: a video with Mariah Carey. Okay, you know Khalid, it's 499 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 6: already got one point five interviews. We talked about an 500 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 6: Apple TV special. Apple ain't told him yet when they're 501 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 6: gonna drop it in the month of the summer. We 502 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 6: talked about, you know, Kurt Franklin, a gospel Christmas coming out, 503 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: you know, December fourth on Lifetime. And now he has 504 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 6: a series he doing with de Vonne Frankel, who is 505 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 6: one of my favorite people who's marriage to Megan Good 506 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 6: another one of my favorite people who's totally entrenched in 507 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 6: the gospel word. My man, this is a great interview 508 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 6: for me to share with my viewers my listeners, because friend, 509 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 6: you're a blessing brother. You've always been that way, and 510 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 6: I appreciate you man. Thank you for coming to Money 511 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 6: Making Conversations. 512 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 8: I am so proud of you too, my friend, and 513 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 8: thank you for having me. 514 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 6: Because if you want to see hear any of my 515 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 6: interviews of Money Making Conversation, please go to money Making 516 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 6: Conversation dot com. 517 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: I'm with Sean McDonald. 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