1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The Black Effect Presents features honest conversations and exclusive interviews, 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: a space for artists, everyday people and listeners to amplify, elevate, 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: and empower black voices with great conversations. Make sure to 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: listen to The Black Effect Presents podcast on I Heart Radio, 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: sarahcu Stock. I'm the NBA analysts for they S Network, 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: and I'm hosting a new podcast called NBA Flashback. NBA 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Flashback takes you back to the best moments in NBA 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: history through exclusive archival audio from the NBA vault, and 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: each week we'll have new interviews with the legends who 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: were actually on the court. Check out NBA Flashback on 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: get your podcast. Mama, where is the Chicken fell uh 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Loo Draft? Draft? Friendly Giraffe? Giraffe. You're not gonna get 15 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: it all right. Just make sure you know the big stuff, 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: like making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: right seat for their agent's eyes. Get it right visits 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: n h s A dot gov. The Right Seat brought 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: to you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: the ad Council. My next game is a dream maker, 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: a dream planner. He from They always tell that from 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: the from the back to the front. He's been grabbing people, 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: pulling them with is Kurt Franklin. He's a sixteen Grammy 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: Award winning gospel songwriter, arranging producer. We're both Texas boys. 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Kirk and I go all the way back to Why 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: we Sing? Give me why We Sing? For the thirty 27 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: years and continuous hits and tremendous success bridging hip hop, 28 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: pop and gospel together. Now he is a big time 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: television and film producer, but music is his first love. 30 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Started with fall in Love with christ Wood, Kirk, Mariah Carey, 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Mariah Kerry and uh Collid, a new holiday event featuring 32 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: the first and only exclusive performance of fall in Love 33 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: and Chris Wood, Kurt, Rian and Collid with premiere on 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus in December. BT Plus series It's Given 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin a serious order for Kingdom Business, a music 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: driven drama executive produced by my boy de von Franklin. 37 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: You know him, Miracles from Heaven, Holly Carter, My Girl 38 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Way Back two thousands, The Clark Sisters that said all 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: kind of viewing Records on Lifetime, the First Ladiest of 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Gospel and Michael Van Dyke. The eight episode series explores 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: the gospel music in the three through the lens of family, 42 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: faith and love and the redemptive power of music. And Finally, 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin executive duced a new holiday movie. I just 44 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: saw the day they gave me an earlier look at 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: it outstanding Kurt Franklin's a Gospel Christmas with Premiere, which 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: premieres on December fourth on Lifetime. The Lifetime movie stars 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: Dmitria McKinney. You've heard on our show many times, Regina Bell, 48 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: and my boy I met him when he was a teenager. 49 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: Chas Lamar Shephard, Please work with the money. Mad conversation. 50 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: I got a lot to say because he's doing a lot. 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin, Kurt, Kurt, Kurt Brother, Kurt Man, I'm gonna 52 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: say your name like that, man, because you know when 53 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: you go to the mountaintop and you want to hear 54 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: people here good news. You just repeated, you repeated, repeated, 55 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin. Man, just transition, brother, Let's let's let's just 56 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: talk with the fall in love. It was released November 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: five with Mariah you Khalid and one point five million 58 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: views so far and climbing. Talk about putting that together, 59 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: talk about the importance of that particular, you know, because 60 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: MRA has the all time Christmas song record and now 61 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: you're doing a Christmas song with us, so you you're 62 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: working with a Christmas legend. Talk about that. Yeah, yeah, man, 63 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: I was. First of all, it's great seeing you. It's 64 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: great seeing my brother who's been so supported my entire career, 65 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: that's been there from day one, and I'm just very 66 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: honored to be able to be a part of your continuing, 67 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: uh just career and legacy and so uh, it's always 68 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: beautiful to connect with a brother who you've looked up 69 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: to for so long. Um. Yeah, the Mariah Carey project came. Um, 70 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: she invited me to write along with her and her 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: writing partner, and so I went to her home and 72 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: she showed me where they were with the song and 73 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: it felt good, and they just kind of wanted to 74 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: have some different moments in the song, and so I 75 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: said that at the piano kind of just through some 76 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: ideas and where we could go with the song, how 77 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: we could, you know, maybe even do some different things 78 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: in the bridge, and then I had a whole idea 79 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: for a vamp kind of like a tape cattle. I 80 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: could take him to church vamp, you know. And so um, 81 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: I sat down. It's kind of through some ideas, and 82 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: so we co wrote the record together and and I 83 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: and I brought it back to Dallas, and I put 84 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: my band on it, put my singers on it, kinda 85 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: did my thing, and uh, I mean, she really loved it. 86 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: And it's really humbling for her to be able to 87 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: really connect with it like that. And um yeah, and 88 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: and I then uh colead jumped on it and they 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: were super dope. He's a great young talent and so 90 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: and so yeah, it's a great opportunity to just to 91 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: continue to try to have the conversation about you know, man, 92 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: how gospel music in the community did not come from 93 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: uh and just just the gravity and just the breath 94 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: of the people in it, and and and how viable 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: gospel music style and the message in just the community 96 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: is when it comes to any area of music, it 97 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: could be pop music, it could be hip, public can 98 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: be country. Wherever it is, this music can live there. 99 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: Because you're talking about a part of America. And so 100 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: you know to not own is it the good News 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: of Jesus christis also music that is the foundation of 102 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: American music, is the foundation of black experience here and 103 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: uh in Western civilization. And so because of that, you 104 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: could always see it's it's it's it's influence and you 105 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: can always see uh it's impact even now. I mean, 106 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: every pop artist, every hip hop artist, their band are 107 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of church musicians. I mean, I was at 108 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: a Snoop's mother's funeral this past week. Snoop asked me 109 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: to do the music for his mother's funeral, and the 110 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: whole and his whole band there's church guys. That's why 111 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: I would able to just and I didn't have one rehearsal. 112 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have one rehearsal. I just jumped on the 113 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: piano with the singers and we were able to go 114 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: from some about the name Jesus to to to my 115 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: life is in your hands, because I mean, you know, 116 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: we all speak that same language. And so it was 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: really exciting to bring that six uh music and to 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the Maraack harry a song. And it's very humbling to 119 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: bring that that essence of culture music to even now 120 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: scripted programming and to visual to visual platforms like uh, 121 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin's and Gospel Christmas. You got too much. You're 122 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: gonna slide through these different things. I gotta stop on 123 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: great moments. Now you're out there with you. Something I had, 124 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: I had mariad carry coming down the Dallas and mix 125 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: it up with the band, and I was a Snoop 126 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Dogg and played with the band and then you know 127 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: something about the name of Jesus who he knows. That's 128 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: my all time favorite Kirk Franklin song right there. He's 129 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: just gonna slide past that, you know, unfortunately delivered as 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: a sad moment for Snoop Dogg. But that's an inspirational song. 131 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: And let you know, there is, uh, there is, there's 132 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: guidance for us in our sad moments, and that type 133 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: of music that you produced over years creates that. But 134 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this video, man. First of all, I'm 135 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of mad because Maria carry don't age. She don't age. Man. 136 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking at going, Okay, really, Maria, really you're gonna 137 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: do it like this? And then then but then I'm enjoying. 138 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the video, right, Kurt. And then all of 139 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: a sudden and then all a sudden, Kirk, you you 140 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: kirtified it. You know what I'm saying. You know you're doing. Man, 141 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: come on there with that Kurt tone. I love it man, absolutely, 142 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Hey man, because you have a style, man, you have 143 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: a presence. Man, you have a and that that that brand. 144 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that Kurt Franklin brand. Because like I said, 145 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: it's really when I set up and think about we 146 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: have been on this journey together. Man. You know you 147 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: know b T celebrations of gospel. Man, we both Texas boys, 148 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, all journey, different TV shows that you did 149 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: or when I was doing Sister Sister, all these different things, 150 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: movie ideas. We kicked back and forth. But what is 151 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: the Kurt Franklin brand Man that you that you built man, 152 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: because you built through your your honesty, go through your 153 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: you know you performance. You was injured and you you 154 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: cover from that. So that's a journey in life and 155 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: you've been out there. But this brand is just growing. 156 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: That's school. It's going to allow us to talk about 157 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: these television productions that are coming up. Talk about that 158 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: kurk Franklin brain. Oh well, you know this is going 159 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: to probably the part of the interview that we're going 160 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: to suck at the most, because I mean, you know 161 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: me better than anyone you know in this space, and 162 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I am unapologetic in my faith. I'm unapologetic in my 163 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: Christian faith and I and I try to very hard 164 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: to live it more than I preach. It is because 165 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: I think people would rather see a sermon rather than 166 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: here sermon any day. And so I really believe, well 167 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: unapologetic lead that everything that I'm blessed to do, it's 168 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: all by the grace and kindness of the Lord. I mean, 169 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm not that smart, I'm not that genius to have 170 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: this strategy. And there may be other people that are 171 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: like that, but not me. I mean I am, I 172 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: am totally Whatever whatever I've been blessed to do or 173 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: whatever I desire to do is it's all because of 174 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: the Lord's kindness. It's it's it's not I don't have 175 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: a rim and you know I don't. I don't have 176 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: ingredients of songwriting. These are songs that God loans me. 177 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: These are these are these are moments I try to 178 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: be a good steward over um. One of my manchuris 179 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: in life that one of my mentors. Dr Tony Evans 180 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: taught me is I'm a manager of everything, but I'm 181 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: an owner of nothing. That everything, that everything belongs to God. 182 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: And so I'm just a steward. I'm just a manager 183 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: of moments and so um, you know, and and and 184 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I align with that ideal, those those those those constructs 185 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: of what I subscribe to. And it's it's by the 186 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: grace and kindness of Christ. And so you know, I 187 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: care when he was talking because Dr Tony Evans, he 188 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: was on my show last week and the Priscilla Shire 189 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: and her son and and then you know, it's just 190 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: watching my show Shift. You know, it's about money making conversations, 191 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: but it's about life. It's about journeys and things like that. 192 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: When I look at what you're doing. Um, the movie 193 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: I saw, you know the stars uh um McKinney and 194 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: stars chas Lamar Shephard and Regina Bear comes up fire 195 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: at the very top of its you know, leading the 196 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: church and strong women and female characters. That's what that 197 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: was My number one takeaway from this particular project was 198 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: that was that was that a purposeful motion of uh 199 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: take on this particular script. You wanted to do a 200 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: movie that that show women, especially Black women, empowered in 201 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: this manner because they are very very a directive their 202 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: short leadership. They're showing sensitivity, they're showing arms, all these things. 203 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: That's my number one takeaway from this, which I thought 204 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: was fantastic. Yeah, that is no doubt a man date 205 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: for Lifetime. Lifetime is very committed to UH, to diversity 206 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: and to be able to give women, especially women of color, 207 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: opportunities in front of the camera, behind the camera, and 208 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: so um um it is UH very much intentional. And 209 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: and even from from the writer of the movie to 210 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: the UH to other EPs that repeying de parject with 211 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: me Tracy Tweinaky Bird and uh Leslie Grief and and 212 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: and and just so many others, is is that it 213 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: is it is intentional to be able to show the 214 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: diversity of who we are as people of color. And 215 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: I even think that Lifetime even allowing me to brand 216 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: the movie Kirk Franklin's and Gospel Christmas shows even their 217 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: commitment to diversity to even genres UH to be able 218 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: to show that there's a viability within the space, to 219 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: be able to bring to even allow somebody from my 220 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: community to be able to to Brandon movie that they 221 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: spent millions of dollars to make is something that I'm 222 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: very humbled of and and I and I and I 223 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: prayed that the community comes out and supports it to 224 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: be able to show UH networks is because you and 225 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: I both know I'm uh. You know, TV and film 226 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: they're not in the missionary business. You know, their money business, 227 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: and so and so it is very important that if 228 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: we want uh inspirational and aspirational entertainment, that we've got 229 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: to show up. That we've got to be able to 230 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: show up in the numbers. Like for example, in Lifetime 231 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: was the number one holiday movie destination, but over seventy 232 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: one eight million viewers of watching this type of programming 233 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: for the holidays. And so with Kirk Franklins of Gospel Christmas, 234 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: I would really love to show them that people really 235 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: love this genre of music and that they're going to 236 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: show up because they get excited like this. This movie 237 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: will feature reimagined versions of Christmas songs from my Christmas 238 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: album You've Met Me, the Christmas album in n and 239 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: so the theme of the script was built around songs 240 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: from my Christmas album and they've been reimagined for this movie, 241 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be super dope and it's it's 242 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: going to be a very good snuggy movie. 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Welcome back to money making 281 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: Conversations as I continue my conversation with sixteen time Grammy 282 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Award winning gospel singer, songwriter, arranger and producer Kurt Franklin. 283 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: First of all, you know it's a romance. You know 284 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: it's romance and attractive reads Charles Lamar shipperd Like I said, 285 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: it's Charles Shipper. Before we go back to Steve Harvey 286 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: and I when we did his very first sitcom, Me 287 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: and the Boys, back in ninety four. Shepherd was one 288 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: of the kids on the show. So I've been doing 289 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Chance all the way back to this ninety four. And 290 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: then uh Dmitria McKinney, I've been knowing us on my show. 291 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: I met her wonderful son, she's a powerful single mom. 292 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: And then Regina mal So when I when I watched 293 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: a show like this, like I said, I just had 294 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: Kelly Rowland and uh Brecia Webb on the show talking 295 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: about their Lifetime project and one of the reason I 296 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: bringing up up in the interviews that Lifetime is making 297 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: a commit meant to diversity like you were saying, this 298 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: is not a woman. They're comfortable with putting us people 299 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: of color on their network. That's important for us to see, correct, 300 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: very important. But just because we we we have heard 301 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: what's been coined as this new uh phrase, But it's 302 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: really true across all cultural UH format is that representation 303 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: matters and soul that matters in any aspect. Uh. It's 304 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: not on the gender uh, gender equality, but it's also 305 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: race equality and and so uh these things matter. These 306 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: these these things matter to also be able to address 307 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: some of the key line things that systemically divide us, 308 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: like socio economic equality or disparity. And so when when 309 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: black folk are able to write scripts and to be 310 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: behind the camera and to work on movies, then now 311 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: what you're doing is that you're making that that playground 312 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: a a more more more fair opportunity for all people. 313 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: Is because you're not only seeing us with with needs 314 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: on our next in the street. You're saying that we 315 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: want to be able to show a bigger image of 316 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: the hopefulness that can come from a community of people, well, 317 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: you know, the beauty of you know, like I was mentioned, 318 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: like I was interviewing Dr Tony Evans, based out of Dallas, 319 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: is about his doctor humanity and his journey and and 320 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: what I call him as a visual Bible is beautiful 321 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: going back to Israel with his family and all this stuff, 322 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: and his wife is in it before she passed away 323 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: and said Daddy who's recently passed away. So it's an 324 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: emotional story. But what I want to say is that 325 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: never in my life have I seen this amount of 326 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: a black culture on so many different unique mainstreams, you know, 327 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of where we're living at Kirk 328 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: And for you to be a person who you know, 329 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: who has come through the lens of music and music 330 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: allows you to produce videos and be a part of 331 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: that directorial. And one of I'm telling that one of 332 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: the all time great funny entertaining videos was when Kurt 333 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: spoofed himself with Steve Harvey back. If y'all find that video, 334 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: that's one of the funniest videos of all time. When 335 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: they do a spoof of Eddie Murphett, that's one of 336 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: the all time This brother, he is very funny. I 337 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: just popped in my head when I'm thinking about your 338 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: laughing about that man. But when you look at these transitions. Man, 339 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: Now you're about to do a shoe eight episode series 340 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: that explores the gospel music industry through the Lens family, faith, love, 341 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: and redemptive power of music. That's the power of gospel 342 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 1: music is the redemptive power. That's what I got out 343 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: of the show your movie that I was just watching. 344 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: You know, Kirk Franklin's Our Gospel Christmas is redemptive because 345 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: of the fact that in her she doubted herself, she 346 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: didn't believe she could accomplish her task that her parents 347 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: knew she could do. And that's really powerful content for 348 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: young people to see, and especially for black people to see. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 349 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: it's that. I think that that that that the the 350 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: narrative of the black experience in North America is so 351 00:20:49,880 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: transferable uh over socio economic lines uh um uh religious lines, uh, 352 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: lines of academia and scholarship. Is because as people of color, 353 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: we speak these the secret languages, these these these these 354 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: waves and and and and and these energies that that 355 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: are just transferable to our people. We we we know 356 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: what this means. You know, we know what this means. 357 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you know, you know, you know, 358 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: you know and and we understand it. If you went 359 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: to an h B c U or if you went 360 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: to an Ivy League school, you understand the heartbeat of 361 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: our people and soul for Hollywood two uh, to not 362 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: always continue to appropriate our experience, but to include us 363 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: in our own stories. Um, it just makes for a 364 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: for for for a more civil society when people feel 365 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: like they matter and they're spearences are not being plagiarized, 366 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: but but but they are being they are being compensated 367 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: for the uniqueness of how God made Before we get 368 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: into the drama series Kingdom, um, Kingdom Business. Now the 369 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Apple TV plus that you're doing with Mariah Carey Kalig, 370 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: what exactly is that? And it follows the line of Christmas. 371 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: What exactly is that there's gonna air in December? Yeah, well, 372 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean we all know that Maria carriss Christmas song 373 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: is the biggest, biggest Christmas song in history. UM, her 374 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: single All I Want for Christmas as You. And so 375 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: with this new single that we were part of, she 376 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: she presented a or she's going to be a part 377 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: of a a Christmas special that's featuring her and it's 378 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a big production for Apple TV for for 379 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: the Christmas holidays, and you'll be able to get to 380 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: watch it. And of course me and and and uh 381 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: Kalig will be performing song and it's a major production. 382 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: She's going to be doing several different songs and so 383 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: it's a big event. It's going to be a big 384 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: event for Apple Plus. And uh there's no release state 385 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: for it yet. Apple wants it to be something that 386 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: is kind of a shock value moment. But it will 387 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: be the only place that you'll be able to see 388 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: the performance of us three together for the song. Uh, 389 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: it's an exclusive performance and so it's gonna be a 390 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: a very big night once again for the coaching. And 391 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: now let's go on to my main you know, Kingdom 392 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Business eight episodes. Okay, Holly Carter, you know the Franklin 393 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: Franklin come on now, talk to talk about this new series. Man. Yeah, man, 394 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: we were working on this project for about three years, 395 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: just just um, just working on development. Uh sack Mere 396 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: and Uh Sackman and Lane Heart are two beautiful white 397 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: brothers that had the scripted that had a story about 398 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: gospel music and faith and challenges and drama and and 399 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: and just the realities of of of of like real 400 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: life experiences, uh that are all the backdrop of this 401 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: incredible opportunity for music. I'm also the mutic man and 402 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: also one of the executive produces. I'm the music supervisor 403 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: and so, uh, by God's great, I'm writing new music 404 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: for every episode, every scene. Uh that that that gospel 405 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: music is now being a part of telling bigger stories. 406 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: And so like you hear music uh in the episodes 407 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: that are that are from from the culture, but they 408 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: speak to the moments that that that the script requires. 409 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: And it was a wonderful opportunity. It was hard. I'm 410 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: in the studio right now finishing one of the songs 411 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: right now. I was here to five o'clock this morning, 412 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: just kind of finishing episode. And I'm back today for 413 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: the band and singers while doing interviews for for Kirk 414 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: Franker's The Gospel Christmas. So, you know, it's it's it's 415 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of work because Kingdom business is 416 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: a it's it's uh, it's it's episodic, so you know, 417 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, so so you're having to wait on the 418 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: scripts to be able to know that what's happening, you know. 419 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: And I've got a couple and and I'm also a 420 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: character in in a in a in a few of 421 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: the episodes, I make these cameos as a very left 422 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: of center character. It's not it's not what's what's what's 423 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: suspected of me? And so you know, just it's I 424 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: just let me tell you what my modus operandi is 425 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: a life. I mean, everything we've talked about today, the 426 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: bottom line is what I want, my friend, Sean as 427 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I just want to make God proud of you. You 428 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: know when I before we got on the mike, I 429 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: was like jumping for joy for you, because you know, 430 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: when I see people make transitions and I can remember, man, 431 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: what was on the same sister sister way back then, 432 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, and it was like, wow, man, I'm seeing 433 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: my brother man. And you know, I loved it when 434 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: he was hosting the gopel Or Singing competition. I used 435 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: love that seeing you do that, man, and that was 436 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: one of my favorite shows just watching you man, just 437 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: just so smooth, so articulate. Man's just on the point, 438 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: and just knowing that you cared about people where they 439 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: want all loss, you know, because it's a journey and 440 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: to see you now this is this hard breaking, this 441 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: this road into being a television abuser. And you're doing 442 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: both hats. You're executive producing and also your music director, 443 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: and so people do understand what he's saying. He's saying 444 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: that we talked about a video with Mariah Carey. Okay, 445 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: you know college it's already got one point five million views. 446 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: We talked about Apple TV special. Apple ain't told them 447 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: yet when they're gonna drop it in the month of 448 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: the something we talked about, you know, Kurt Franklin a 449 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: gospel Christmas coming out, you know, December fourth on Lifetime. 450 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: And now he has a serious he's doing with Davarn 451 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: Frankl who is one of my favorite people who's marriage 452 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: or Megan good another one of my favorite people who 453 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: totally intrition in the gospel word. My man, this is 454 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: a great interview for me to share with my viewers 455 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: my listeners because your blessing brother, You've always been that 456 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: way and I appreciate you man. Thank you for coming 457 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversations. 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