1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: She's not for everybody. I'm sorry. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: No, She's for me and one other. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 3: See, I can Rory is different. I could never say it. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 3: I can't say it, and I will never say it. 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 4: You tweet about it. 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't. 7 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even do that, but I would like go home. 8 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: I would go home and be on my Morris Chestnut 9 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: boys in the hood swinging. 10 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 5: At the airship like. 11 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: I'll do that. But I'm never gonna say yo, nah yo. 12 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: I like her like even though she's for no, because 13 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: I would throw up if I try to say that. 14 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: Wor Yes, yeah, you feel centered? 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 5: Listen man, Yeah, sometimes you gotta do that. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: For those in the audio experience who just sat here 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: quietly as Mal put his thumb and index finger together 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: as if he was meditating. Are those your pressure points? 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 5: Yes, this is how you in it yourself. Just relaxed 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 5: for a second. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: Breathe, let all thoughts go, let all stresses go. 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 5: Just be more present, Yeah, be more present, more present. 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: You went to therapy today too, Goddamn. 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 5: No, I just smoked some really good weed on the 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 5: way in. Feel great. 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: I thought you'd be more excited. Today's it's your day. 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: It's pink Friday. Well you're a bar, but where are 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: we celebrating. It's not lying the la to go to 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: our house, Like what. 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: Well, tomorrow's Pink Friday today? Today is no? Well, yes, 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: tomorrow's Pink Friday. Today is uh, what is today? 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: Wednesday? 33 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 5: Wednesday? So it's like Blueberry Wednesday? 34 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: All right, when this comes out, it'll be Pink Friday. Yeah, 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: so you're saying it's it's almost like the Good Friday Easter. Yes, 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: it's ash Wednesday. That's yeah, yeah, yeah, this was we're 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: having the last supper or we're planning last supper more 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: or less trying to see who's on the guest list 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: on Wednesday for Ash Wednesday and then you know, Pink 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 1: Friday and then Crucified. 41 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to this album, are you? I'm looking 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: forward to this Nikki album. It's been it's been a while. 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: We've been at been waiting for this to drop. It 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: was pushed back a couple of times, I believe, But 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: it's it's here. It's Pink Friday. It's here, the album's dropping. 46 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything. These are times like this when 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: I wish I think about whole vein a lot. Okay, 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: this is the times with Hoole Vein would have sent 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: like the album, like, oh yeah, we would have had 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: it last month. Yeah, like they sent the album. Uh 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: so I thought about him last night. Rest in peace, 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: hole Vein, we miss you. 53 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: I figured you would have the leak though, or at 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: least she ran a few records by you to get 55 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: some approval, right. 56 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: Would you would think? So? 57 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: Right? 58 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: No, I haven't heard anything, but I like it that way. 59 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: I like when I don't hear any music, when the 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: artists drop something and I have no idea what it 61 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: sounds like. I have no idea what's going on. I 62 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: don't know what to expect. So I'm really looking forward 63 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: to this Nikki album. It's been a while, so we. 64 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Won't say on Nikki too too long, but I'm really 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: only excited for the album because she brought back like 66 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: longer rollouts, which makes me think she really took her 67 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: time and was very intentional with everything she did. Because 68 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: she announced the one date that did get pushed to 69 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: December eighth, like what five six months ago, So I 70 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: think that's cool. Yeah, especially an artists like that, because 71 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: she does have the power to just kind of announce 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: a date and. 73 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 6: What's the rollout, ben Because earlier we said it has been 74 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 6: quiet for this album, I don't for the album. 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: For the rollout, it's been a real it's been a 76 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: proper it's been a proper rollout from Super Freaky Girl. 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: You've gotten visuals, you've gotten second singles, you've gotten fake leaks, 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: you've gotten announcements about the announcement. It feels like an 79 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: old school rollout to me. Let's work a single for 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: four fucking months, let's go get some awards, and let's 81 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: drop it fourth quarter around Christmas. But the old music business. 82 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: I mean rollouts changed over the year. 83 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: Though those year rollouts have been a lot different from 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: most artists like the rollouts just don't seem to be 85 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 3: the same push, the same effort behind it, aside from 86 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: putting out a single, maybe a visual, you know. I 87 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: know people like to start little things on social media 88 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: and shit like that, But I don't think that people 89 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: really care about rollouts anymore. I think people just like, YO, 90 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: give me the album, we listen to it. If we 91 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: like it, we like it, if we don't, we don't 92 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: like I don't think people really like the rollout doesn't 93 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: seem like it's a real thing for some artists anymore, 94 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: Like you don't need to play the antics in the 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: games as much as you used to before. 96 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: We because the post rollout is so important with getting 97 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: a record or album to move based off a TikTok thing, 98 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to just do that. You're actually kind of 99 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: wasting it if you use that as a rollout for 100 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the album whatever. The product you're really trying to sell 101 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: should be the focus of TikTok and post promotion. But 102 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: the only thing I thought was missing from Nicki's rollout 103 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: was heard doing freestyles. I think that would have been cool. 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: She would have went, well, there's no leakers anymore, but 105 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 1: on the radar freestyle or something along those lines. Flex 106 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Maybe just because she's from New York, I think it 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: would have been cool for Nikki not to say she's 108 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: not gonna remind everyone that she's a better rapper than most. 109 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: I would have liked to see that in the rollout, 110 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: in a freestyle type way, like you're a pop star, 111 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: but you are a rapper. 112 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 5: I mean it could still happen, maybe a. 113 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: Stay of h yeah, But I mean when we say 114 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: it's quiet for this rollout, like yes, it has had 115 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: a very long lead up, and there has been some 116 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: you know, like Super Freaky Girl on all of those things. 117 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 7: But Super Freaky Girl came out what like over a year. 118 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: Ago, August twelfth, twenty twenty two. 119 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so big vam this the album comes out Friday. 120 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 7: There has been nothing this week or last week. 121 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: So when we're talking about like roll up, we have 122 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: like a twenty second attention span, Like, yeah, she said 123 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: the album was coming, but people are like, oh shit, 124 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: isn't Nikki's album supposed to be coming? 125 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 7: There's no reminder of that. 126 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: There's no like she's about to go on Andy Cohen 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: and watch watch what Happens Live. But like for the 128 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: music fans, like what is it? Is there another single coming? 129 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 8: Is? 130 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 4: Like? 131 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 2: What is going on to remind us that this album, 132 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 2: the album's coming up, especially because you pushed it two times. 133 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: Well, it could also be coming down to the wire, 134 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: which is fine because plenty of artists have done that. 135 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Maybe her plan is really to just get this out 136 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: by Friday and then we're going to get all the 137 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Nikky interviews, the free styles, that everything that we would 138 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: think for a lead up Kimble should do. Fouling, Like 139 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: I can see that happening, and Nikki is right now, 140 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: just focused on getting the project out and to our 141 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: fan base that doesn't want to hear about Nikki like that. Sorry, 142 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: we like Nikki except for Julian. 143 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a big fan anyway. 144 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: It's fine. You're right Atlantic with Cardy. We know, we 145 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: know what's happening about. 146 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 6: Your team party two though a why she gave Demarus 147 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 6: a shout out. If we're all come out, We're all 148 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 6: Cardi fans from. 149 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: I was born. I was don't get it twisted. I 150 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: went through high school being a Nicki fan. 151 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 5: Well, I don't. 152 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: She's been around longer. 153 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like like, I'm a Nicki fan to the 154 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: death of me. I am a Nicky fan as far 155 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: as her music, not a fan of some of her antics, 156 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: but I'll never deny her music. I'm a Nikki fan 157 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to this album. I pray to 158 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: God that she doesn't disappoint it. 159 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 6: Invasion of privacy or ping print, don't do that. 160 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: It's not even close. It's not even close. 161 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: Well she released ping Print like nah, because you got 162 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: to so I'm trying to remember which you can say it. 163 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: No, Black Friday came out like ten times. That's what 164 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: you're I mean Friday, Pink Friday came out. 165 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 6: Take all the Fridays of the calendar year. Invasion of 166 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 6: Privacy is washing that. 167 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's fifty okay, what one Cardi does? Invasion 168 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Privacy is better? Yes, I will say that. What is that? 169 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: It's not like Nikki has one body of. 170 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying for this, it's weird of me 171 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 6: saying the ones better. Let's put their albums against each other. 172 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 6: Cardi is a better album. 173 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: That's it. That's all I have to say about it. No, 174 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: I don't listen. 175 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: I'm trying this thing where I don't argue with people 176 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: about their music taste and their selections. 177 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 5: So I'm just listening to you. 178 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Oh maybe you are centered. 179 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just listening to you. 180 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: It's a podcast. 181 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: Also, if that's if that's no, we don't have to argue. Well, 182 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: we can go back a little bit. 183 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 5: Like it's okay, you like Invasion of Privacy better, good 184 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 5: for you. 185 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: But I feel like you do too. You have to 186 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: say it. 187 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: But like I know, Invasion of Privacy was a good album, 188 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: and sometimes you got to put them in a place. 189 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Because I mean believe it or not. Ironically, when it 190 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: comes to rap beef, women are the only ones that 191 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: want to rap when it comes to that ship. Now, 192 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: they'll go back and forth all day by rapping, and 193 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: men need to follow suit. 194 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 5: What women go back and forth with rapping a lotto. 195 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Nikki Cardi Coy. Yeah, like they they come right. 196 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: There the women do? They do shoot at each other? 197 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what and in a healthy way. I feel like, 198 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: like what the sports should be for men just stopped 199 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: doing that ship and became the women and women started 200 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: rapping at each other. 201 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that it's it's probably safeer 202 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: that way. It's probably safer for women to go back 203 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: and forth throwing shots at each other on record, because 204 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: we said, we see where it goes when when when 205 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: when men do that, it gets a little crazy, It 206 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: gets off of record. Now it's not even my music 207 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: no more. Now it's like you can't even go outside, 208 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: you can't go to this event. It gets a little, 209 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: it gets a little crazy with the women. It seems 210 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: to stay on wax maybe a little you know, heel 211 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: to the head at a gallop here and there. 212 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 7: Man. 213 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, by the way, I think that's all. 214 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: And that's that's great for the for the ecosystem of men. 215 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: Just give us, you know, because right now male rappers 216 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: are going back and forth on Instagram and then they 217 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: actually shoot each other. Women keep it on wax and 218 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: then they'll knuckle up. It's perfect. It's how it should be. Yeah, 219 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: we need to follow the women when it comes to 220 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: RAPPI I agree, it's over her. 221 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 5: Just take a page out of this. 222 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am looking for the remix to Red Ruby 223 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: the Sleeves with Ruby Rose on it. I want the 224 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: remix on the album with roots. Maybe just put it 225 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: on her only fans. That would be exclusive for the remix, 226 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: like instead of like you had to get the vinyl 227 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: to get certain records, she should just do that with. 228 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 6: Only fans the link tree. 229 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: I would definitely want to get the Ruby Rose remixes 230 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: on her only fans. 231 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: And they're showing feet. Is she that she started advertising 232 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: her only fans? She did like an ad with them 233 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: and it was her feet advertising her. 234 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 5: Is she getting naked only fans? 235 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 7: I don't think so. I think it's like feet and 236 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 7: like sexy beginning. 237 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 6: Wait, so the ad was her feet and then they 238 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 6: pay and then it's just more feet. If the ad 239 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: was the feet, then they have the product. 240 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 4: That's it. You got it. 241 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's not the same. 242 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: See, that's that's what. 243 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 7: There's more than one different positions for the feet. 244 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: And this is. 245 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Where once again, women are following through with everything because 246 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: we've been debating five hundred thousand dollars or lunch with 247 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: jay Z and nothing's happened. Meanwhile, Ruby Rose ninety thousand 248 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: dollars for some feet and you can see those transactions. 249 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: M yeah, Paul, is it tricking? If you got it? 250 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 6: Yes, So in this case, Ruby Rose ran into one 251 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 6: of her top OnlyFans user who I guess spent over 252 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 6: ninety thousand dollars on her and just got her face 253 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 6: tatted on his leg as well. But he's got the 254 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 6: money like that. Is this tricking? Yes, but it's just 255 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 6: no different than supporting a team. 256 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 5: Yes, this is very different. 257 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: How he spent ninety thousand dollars on somebody's OnlyFans people. 258 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: Okay, well let's take it to Beyonce. 259 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 6: People spend flights, hotels, could go spend tens of thousands 260 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 6: of dollars for these tickets on the resale market. 261 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 5: Show me some spent ninety thousand dollars on. 262 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 6: You don't think there's people spend nine thousand dollars towards 263 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 6: Beyonce to go see her sit singing on stage. 264 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: No, the general definition of tricking would be paying for 265 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: a woman's attention that would not give it to you 266 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: unless you gave her money. 267 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 6: How many people take given attention to buying. 268 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: A ticket to watch a Beyonce show doesn't fall under that, 269 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: any of you. Yeah, but it's still pay for her attention. 270 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: Service. 271 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 6: She's providing a service fee picks. Yeah, and he's with 272 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 6: her in the mall. 273 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: No, but he wants her attention. He wants like he's 274 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: texting her. He's texting the messages saying just respond to me, please. 275 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: I'll give you ten bitcoins right now if you just 276 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: respond to me. That's an issue, that's a problem. 277 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Would he be in the mall with her if he 278 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: wasn't paying her? 279 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 6: Okay, but we pay artists to go see them, and 280 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 6: we don't get to go to the mall with them. 281 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: But I'm not paying them to go to them all. 282 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm not paying to talk to them. 283 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: I just want to see them. 284 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 6: He's also not paying to go to the mall with her. 285 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 6: He's just paying to see her feet. 286 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 5: No, he's paying. He wants followed her. He wants, he 287 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 5: wants like. 288 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 4: That's probably the more likely scenario. 289 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 5: He wants. 290 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: He's paying ten bitcoin, And if she just responds to him, 291 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: that's a problem. 292 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, for argumentative's sake, he has more access 293 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 6: to his favorite OnlyFans model than a lot of people 294 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 6: do that. 295 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: It's so much of a problem that she even has 296 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: him saved as weird ownly fan, as weird weird onlyfan fan. 297 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 5: That's a lot that's in her phone. 298 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: As the resident Devil's advocate on this podcast, like, let 299 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: it go like, it's not it's not the same. 300 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: He's weird as shit. 301 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: It's not. 302 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'll go all right to my definition our meet 303 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: and greets Tricken. 304 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: No, no, thank you so much to everybody who came 305 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: out to our meet and greet. 306 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 7: We enjoyed meeting you. 307 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: Of course, I don't think it's stricken. But now that 308 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about my definition, it could fall into that. 309 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 6: I suppose. 310 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I would respectfully say hello to any listener 311 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: for free if we were in the mall. But we 312 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: are setting up a scenario before the show that you 313 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: can pay and come kick it. 314 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, they're not paying. Let's not say 315 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: that they're paying to come kick it with you, because 316 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: the VIPs that our shows get the best seats, So 317 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: they're paying for the best seats and with the best 318 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: come the me and greet. 319 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's true. 320 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 6: And like access, first access to merge, first DIBs at 321 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 6: the bar. 322 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: M all right, so yeah, you're paying for access. 323 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: There's a little more. Yeah, there's more to it. 324 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: He just wants her to say respond to me with 325 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: one word, will we please? I need your attention. I 326 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: need to make sure that my kitten is safe. This 327 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: is somebody with a problem. 328 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: You ever call someone in your kitten? No? Never. 329 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: For four hundred thousand dollars, would you put your safety 330 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: at risk to meet this guy in them? 331 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 4: Yes? 332 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: Yeah I might too. Yeah, I can hire security to 333 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: just like kind of guard the perimeter. But this I 334 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: am glad she did post this because people laughed at it, 335 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: myself included. But this is scary, Like this could end 336 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: up being a guy I want that. 337 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: Well, this is the exact guy that sits outside of 338 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: your fucking your home and waits for you to just 339 00:13:59,200 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: come outside. 340 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 5: He's the he's one of those guys. 341 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 7: He just has money. 342 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 5: They said, he's just spending money. 343 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: They said he was the guy that MTV did a show. 344 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 6: They were like a weird addictions and he, I guess, 345 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 6: was the guy that was featured as the guy that 346 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 6: was addicted to porn look at him years ago. Okay, 347 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 6: so this is now who he's evolved to. This is 348 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 6: the best case scenario for him. 349 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so yeah, he's just interacting with his porn 350 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: at this point. So he didn't get rid of the addiction. 351 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: No, no, it's just it's just evolved. 352 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: He stepped up to a better cut product. This isn't 353 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: Why isn't MTV helping him after exploiting him? This is wild, though? 354 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: Is this not as bad as the way in which 355 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 6: I think we've talked about this? Gambling now has become 356 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 6: so taboo. I think in fifty years time, we'll look 357 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 6: at gambling ads in these overlays for in games the 358 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 6: way we used to look at the way we currently 359 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 6: look at cigarette ads like, oh my god, I can't 360 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 6: believe they used to do that. 361 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, well, gambling is definitely now that is legal. 362 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: It's you see the effect that it's having on It's 363 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: a huge It's. 364 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 6: An addiction where you're prying on someone's weakness. 365 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: Something, you know. 366 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: And I hate to say it, but I do believe 367 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: that something is going to happen very bad, like terrible 368 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: with one of these athletes, where a fan is going 369 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: to kill an. 370 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: Athlete over again. 371 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: They made Michael retire. 372 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: Stop, I'm talking about actually killing an athlete. I think. 373 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but I do think that 374 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: it's gonna happen. Yeah, And then we're going to start 375 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: looking at this whole gambling thing a little like Legal Gambler, 376 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: Fan Duel, all these other apps that people have because 377 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: people don't even really care about if their teams win 378 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: or not anymore. It's like certain players getting you know, 379 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: covering rebounds and points. 380 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 5: And stills and threes and things like that. 381 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: Like there's gonna be a situation where one of these 382 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: fans really show up to a game or to like 383 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: you know, and really start just busting some shots at 384 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: an athlete. I really, I hate to say it, but 385 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: I really do feel like that's gonna happen. 386 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you're wrong at all. I can 387 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: see when someone already has a mental health problem and 388 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: then you give them gambling. Yeah, it could definitely go 389 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: down that it can get bad. 390 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, but. 391 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: I but I mean shout out to Ruby Rose. I mean, 392 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: should one guy giving you ninety grand to just say 393 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: hello and take a picture and he has your face tated? 394 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it's weird, It's it's borderline scary because people 395 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: like that can turn into you know, dangerous people. They 396 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: start following everywhere and then something back can happen. But listen, man, 397 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: get your money. 398 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: Who who is the person that's supposed to be responsible 399 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: for seeing red flags like when you see people like this? 400 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: And I don't want to put anything in the air 401 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: in the air in regards to Ruby Rose. So let's 402 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: just say, for example, like when we do see wild 403 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: mass shootings or something and then everyone comes back and 404 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: there was a million red flags and everyone saw them, 405 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: but no one did anything. When is it going to 406 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: be a responsibility of some department in the world to 407 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: identify red flags and hoppen? Who can be like, all right, 408 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: I see this guy is giving ninety grand. I can 409 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: see these messages are insane. This seems like someone that 410 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: probably needs some help and we should do something before 411 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: he harms someone. Where does that exist? 412 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 4: Nowhere? 413 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: Nowhere is gone? 414 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: But who would be responsible for that? Is that from 415 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: our tax dollars? The same way when defund the police 416 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: was happening and they were saying, no, we'll get rid 417 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: of the police. We just want, like when it comes 418 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: to certain mental health calls, that a cop is not 419 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: going there somebody that's trained, and I see both sides. 420 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 7: Of it's supposed to be in power and social workers 421 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 7: as well. 422 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: With that said, where's the social workers that literally can 423 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: go with these viral moments and say, yeah, I think 424 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: this guy could use some help before he harms someone else. 425 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 5: Well, she usually has security. 426 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean I'm not mistaken. 427 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: When she's out in public, I think she has security. 428 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: So I mean there's some barrier of protection there. 429 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 5: Now. 430 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: The thing is, you know, when she's just chilling at home, 431 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: and you know, guys like this can get your address easily, 432 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: they can find out where you live. And now you're 433 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: at home chilling and this guy's now sit out sitting 434 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: outside your condo or your house. Now we've reached level 435 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: where it's like but then he says, listen, I spent 436 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars on you, like I want some attention, 437 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: like I want to talk to you in real life. 438 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: Don't just treat me like a fan now like i've 439 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: you know now, because it gets to that level with it, 440 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: like you know, much money I spent the threshold, you 441 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: feel more intense to feel like they're your property now 442 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: like you they owe you this time, They owe you 443 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: this one on one because I spent one hundred thousand 444 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: dollars on you. Don't just DM me and say hello 445 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: and then ignore me for two months like so, I mean, 446 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: you got to be careful to the same. You know, 447 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: on one hand, she's max she's leveraging her celebrity and 448 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: knows that guys are you know, sexually attracted to her, 449 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: and you know she's playing into that role. 450 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: It's all a game. But on the other end, it 451 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: is very dangerous. 452 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: Because these are people who I feel like have mental 453 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: problems and you're kind of like, you know, catering to 454 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: them a little bit and patting them on the back, 455 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 3: say hey, nice to meet you, and then forget about you. 456 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: And they're not Some of them won't take that lightly. 457 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: They're like, no, I want more than just a hello 458 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: in a picture or. 459 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: If she's ever ready to stop doing OnlyFans and he's 460 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: been a customer for that long and addicted for that long, 461 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: Like he's not just gonna be cool you saying I'm 462 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: gonna switch career fills now, Like you got to. 463 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: Be careful, man. You know, the access now is unlimited. 464 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: People have unlimited access to you, especially if they're spending 465 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 3: that type of money on you. We've seen unfortunate circumstances 466 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: like a Mercedes More Rest in peace. She was murdered 467 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: by a stalker, a guy that was just infatuated with her, 468 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: in love with her and in his mind felt like 469 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: they probably had a relationship, and you know that ended tragically. 470 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: So women do have to be careful when you're entertaining 471 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: these guys, even if it's just a little hello and 472 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: back and forth on you know, you got to be 473 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: careful because people are they have real mental health issues, 474 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: and tragic things can happen. 475 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: But I mean there is like the functioning stand where 476 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: there's like functioning drug add that are full blown drug 477 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: addicts but can be in society and you wouldn't even 478 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: really know. Yeah, they go about their lives like this 479 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: guy with Ruby Rose to me, is the full blown 480 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: junkie on the side of the street that we see 481 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: that he really needs help. Some of these women are 482 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: running into people that are this far gone, but they're functioning. 483 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: They don't seem as crazy as this guy. So that's 484 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: where they really need to be careful. But when it 485 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: comes to this dude, family members, somebody needs to step in. 486 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: If this was my family member and I saw this 487 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: go viral, I'm calling them immediately to get real clinical help, 488 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: like absolutely clinical help. But this is an issue, like most. 489 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 6: Things though, when there's heavy financial implications. So in this case, 490 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 6: for only fans, models that are making clearing tens of 491 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 6: thousands of dollars a months, hundreds, whatever, and then on 492 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 6: these gambling sites to bring that back up. These companies, 493 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 6: the people that are behind them are making so much 494 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 6: money that you choose to turn a blind eye, and 495 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 6: then you also flaunt the success. This is considered a 496 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 6: success story. So this, this will, this will encourage more 497 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 6: of this behavior. It's because look where Look where spending 498 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 6: this much money got him. It got him on her shoulder. Yeah, 499 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 6: so they know each other. They text I know it 500 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 6: looks crazy to us, It's just him texting and do 501 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 6: an abyss. 502 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: She never responds. 503 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 6: But to the guys that are like him or like 504 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 6: approaching that level of obception of the obsession, they're like, 505 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 6: oh shit, he has her number. 506 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so like you can look at this. 507 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 6: From both sides, and I think it's fucked up that 508 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 6: we flaunt the only fan wins on the timeline. 509 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 4: And then I'm gambling. 510 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 6: I can't watch a Knicks game anymore without them saying, 511 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 6: guess who makes the next bucket? 512 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: Shut up? That's why I watch a game. 513 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, But to your gambling comparison, somebody that could 514 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: be in gambling debt out there ass comes up on 515 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: a lick to pay all their debts back. But what 516 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: does the typical gambling addict do instead of doing that? Yeah, 517 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: let's double up what I just need? I think just 518 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: because I want here, I can continue on same thing 519 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: with him. I'm sure his main goal was trying to 520 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: get her number in text her. 521 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: He got it. 522 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: Now, so what's next? Oh I met her at the mall. Great, 523 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: I had off the checklist. 524 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: I want to go to hell. 525 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so I. 526 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: Feel what you're saying, But what's the next step here? 527 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 6: But I agree with you though, people need to step in. 528 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 3: But that's why I'm saying women like Ruby Rose have 529 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 3: to be careful with guys like this because it's like 530 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: you stringing them along, you playing with them, and then 531 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: after a while they're going to feel like, yo, why 532 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: you just playing with me? 533 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 5: Like I love you? Like you know, I want to 534 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 5: be with you. 535 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 3: Like it starts getting to those type of conversations and 536 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 3: you start saying those things. Now it's like, Oh, this 537 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: person really thinks we're together. This person really thinks we 538 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: have a relationship. Yeah, they just spent one hundred grand 539 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: on you in a month, like they think that y'all 540 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: have a thing like this is like, yeah, I understand 541 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: you made money, and it's like, yo, he spent one 542 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: hundred grand on me. It's like, okay, so are you 543 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: putting this out there to kind of entice other guys 544 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: to Hey, if you spend one hundred grand on me, 545 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: I can meet you too, Like you're playing a dangerous game. 546 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: I think she might have put it out there more 547 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: for safety reasons than anything. Probably that makes sense because 548 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: now it's like, oh, no, have y'all know what this 549 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: man looks like? I have proof it's not just me 550 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: and my team now, Like now, if Ruby Rose is 551 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: at a show and a fan recognizes this nigga creeping 552 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: through the crowd, because we all know what he looks 553 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: like now and he has a pretty recognizable face, like 554 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: so now it's just not her and her team's eyes 555 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 2: on him now, it's a viral thing. Everybody's eyes are 556 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: on him. So I think it was a smarter thing 557 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: that she did tweet that out. But yeah, she does 558 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: have to she has to. 559 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: Be to get your money. Ladies, Just be careful. 560 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, was there much difference between what he was 561 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: texting her and what Cameron was dm and me alone? 562 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: Did Cam send any money? 563 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: Well, I do feel like sending money to somebody like 564 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 7: me along, I think can't. 565 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 3: If I know Cam as well as I think I 566 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 3: know him, he ain't sending no money not to know 567 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: me along. 568 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: It was funny timing too, with everything that was happening 569 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: with Ruby Rose. Did this or Didnia Long leak this? 570 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 6: I know Camlen, Camly Camlee and they never addressed it 571 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 6: on their show as well, which was funny. 572 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 5: Nia never responded, right. 573 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: We don't know this. This was right when we split up. Happened, Yeah, 574 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: And anytime you start something with haystink like. I know 575 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: Cam's joking around, but he took this joke pretty far. 576 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: That's a lengthy paragraph. If I had better eyes I 577 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: read it. But you know you're from uptown. You'll sound 578 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: better reading it. 579 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: He saysa's voice. 580 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: He says, haystink, I was giving you some time to 581 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: yourself till I reached out. Your perseverance as a strong 582 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 3: black woman through this turbulent time has been something to behold. 583 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: Stop you for one second, He sounds like edg Allen, 584 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 3: doesn't he This is October what. 585 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 5: Twenty twenty second? 586 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: October twenty second, October sixteenth. 587 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two. Can we look up when the official 588 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: like breakup. 589 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 7: Has He said, I gave you some time. 590 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: How much time did GM give it? 591 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 5: About a week? 592 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 6: I mean a week is enough time. 593 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: By your Uptown standards. A week solves everything. 594 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: Seven days cry you don't got shower. You can be 595 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: depressed in your house, do whatever you gotta do, but 596 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 3: after that seventh day, get up on your feet, get 597 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: back out there in the game. 598 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you off. 599 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: Go ahead. 600 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: You shouldn't be taking advantage of and exploited as you 601 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: did nothing to deserve this, especially all over these sports networks. 602 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: You're bigger and better than that. You're a queen and 603 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 3: by the way, I'm a king. See that's very important 604 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: to point out. Together we can achieve the greatness we 605 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: were both destined for as a couple on a v avivre. 606 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: And then he gives it a meeting. That means we 607 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 5: have one life to live. 608 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: Think about it. 609 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's not lying. Can ain't lying? 610 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: Pardon my French, you know what I mean. You gotta 611 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: make your pardon self right there. As I sit here, 612 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: sitting in Gaspacco and watching The Best Man, I was 613 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 3: defired to reach out. Now, if you've ever seen The 614 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: Best Man, some of the Lung's greatest work was in 615 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: that movie. 616 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: Fair weird comparison with the plot of that movie. 617 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I leave you with this. 618 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: The most difficult thing is the decision to act. The 619 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: rest is merely technical. 620 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: Damn I didn't think about that way. 621 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: So the next time the sunrises and moonfalls, red Heart, 622 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: purple Heart, Red Heart, purple Heart, red Heart, he. 623 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: Got some bars off that that was given a like 624 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: first album cam lines in there, I see the Best 625 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: Best Man's scheme. 626 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: You know, I was fired. 627 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: Was he got into his he got into his rapper, 628 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, metaphoric bag like you know. 629 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: That was horse and carriage cam in there. 630 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a little bit of come home with me, 631 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: diplomatic community cam right there. I would love to see 632 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 3: near respond to that, though. 633 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, a month after your divorce. I think it's 634 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: hilarious and I'm sure she laughed too, and it probably 635 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: did brighten her day at a time that wasn't great. 636 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: But can you really reply to that in a serious way? 637 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 4: Hay stink is a great bar. 638 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 5: Great opener. 639 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: I hate this trend of I mean, this is funny, 640 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: but and I hate through the buzz kill, but I 641 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: hate this trend of writing people when they're going through 642 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: the hardest time of their lives and screenshotting it for content. 643 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 7: I just think it's very insensitive. 644 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: Like I already got publicly cheated on and he humiliated, 645 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: and now you want to like come in my DMS 646 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: on some stupid shit. And not only did you come 647 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: in my DMS on some stupid shit, you did it 648 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: and then screenshot at it so everybody can see. It's 649 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: just like, come on, bro, Like I understand that this 650 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: is jokes, but like, this is actually my fucking life. 651 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: Can you just leave me? 652 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: I think if he did this in October of twenty 653 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: twenty two, as far as screenshotting it and talking about it, I. 654 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 7: Agree with you, but don't send it anyway. 655 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 6: So he posted it on his Instagram and the caption 656 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 6: was she still hasn't opened my DM. 657 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: And she's probably not, but she's probably seen this, so 658 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: I think she will. She will respond Nia. She she 659 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: kind of plays because the whole j Cole line. He said, 660 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: you know he was too young for Nea Cold, Nea long, 661 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: and she responded to that, so she does. 662 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 5: I mean, she hears, She's so, she's. 663 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 3: In the culture. She sees what's going on. I think 664 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: she will respond to this. I don't I know she 665 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: she knows Cam. This is obviously Cam would obviously date 666 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: me Along if she gave him the chance. Ne Along 667 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: was beautiful, But I think she knows Cam. This was 668 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: just all in fun and just happened. 669 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I do feel what Tamaris is saying, though, if I'm 670 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: going through one of the most public divorces at the time, 671 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: don't never marry, don't leave me alone. 672 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: Leave me alone, Like it's not fucking like it's not funny. 673 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Like that's not. 674 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: Fun I mean, it's not funny. But at the same time, 675 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 3: it's like it's not like we're looking at it like 676 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: that's his loss, like he fucked up, Like we here 677 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: like this dude's here's like, yo, Nia, listen, we know 678 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: he did some dumb shit. Just know we still love 679 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: you and open my DM and let's go to dinner 680 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: if you give me a chance to. 681 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 5: That's all it is. 682 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: It is is not laughing at me, is going through 683 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: a divorce. It's more so like fuck him, he did 684 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: some dumb shit. How you cheat on kne along? 685 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 4: All right? 686 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: Cool? Never mind? 687 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: He out the way, Yo, what's up, Neil? Like, because 688 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: we've been sitting here for years looking at you like, yo, 689 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: she's gorgeous, Like I would love that the opportunity to 690 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: date you, So yeah, I think that's. 691 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: So you're later feels a little bit more appropriate. And again, 692 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I know it's just jokes, but I could see a 693 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: world where that he wouldn't find that very fucking funny 694 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: at the time. 695 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yes, but I mean you got 696 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: to know that this is just the way of somebody 697 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: saying your need we love you, we fuck with you 698 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: like you're beautiful, We've always loved you, like you understand 699 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: you're going through divorced, but listen, don't let that you know. 700 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 7: Then say that, don't come in my fucking DM. 701 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: But this is just so funny and watching The Best 702 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: Man and realized I'm the best man for you, Like 703 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: that's funny a year from then, but that's not fucking 704 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: funny when I'm crying at home because I was publicly. 705 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 6: It reminds me of the meme of the future text. 706 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 6: It's like, you know, every thing that happens is future 707 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 6: on his phone, You're like, he said, the whole thing 708 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 6: is like anyway, tell your mama. 709 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 5: Said, that's exactly what this is. 710 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: It's the same type, but that's your actual excess. 711 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: Like this is just somebody, somebody, this somebody just had 712 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: a crush on forever. 713 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: And like I watched the movie and realized that I'm 714 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: the best man for you. 715 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 6: That's hard. 716 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: I'm not just. 717 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, like it's just having fun. 718 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: Man, Well, I'm curious Best Man Holiday, Nah, I gotta 719 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: be the first best. 720 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: Man first of all, The Best Man Holiday is the 721 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: best best Man I'm with you that one is the 722 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: that's the best best Man and even the follow up. 723 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: The shows were good too, Like I was just watching 724 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: the series yesterday. 725 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: It's a good series. 726 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of like the end of like my son's transgender, 727 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: Like I thought it was a great series. I just 728 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: thought it was a little too on the nose of 729 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: those times, like it felt very for It's like, oh, 730 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm a running back and he's not a man or Yeah. 731 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Other than that, I thought it was phenomenal. But I'm 732 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: with you, best Man Holiday is better than Best Man. 733 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. 734 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm here to debate. 735 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 5: I don't know about that one. 736 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: I get it. Everybody's like, oh, the classic of the classic, 737 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: just like Bad Boys two is better than Bad Boys one, because. 738 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: Like just the fact when they was at the altar 739 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: and Neil and. 740 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 5: Her real name is Monica Calhoun, I think the actress's name, 741 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 5: I don't Mia. When Mia was reading her vows. 742 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: And he kept flashing man kept crying stop. 743 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: That's just like, come on, that's classic ship, yo, because 744 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: you know that's like real it like when you know, 745 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: like your girl, you find out a dude that your 746 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: girl used to fuck with and now you're sitting there 747 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: talking to and all you can think about is like, yo, damn. 748 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 7: She was gripping his sheets and everything. 749 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that was crazy, I agree with you, but why 750 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: Best Man Holiday goes even crazier. 751 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: And then Regina hal at the stripping, the dancing at 752 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: the penthouse for the basketball right now, Oh my god, nah, 753 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: Best Man one is I get they did in the 754 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: living room and all that. 755 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: That was dope? 756 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 5: Can you stand the rain? I get all of. 757 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: That, but come on, man, it was some classic parts 758 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: in The Best Man. 759 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: Now what rivals that alter scene in Best Man Holiday 760 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: is when Mia is about to die of cancer and 761 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: looks at him says, I wanted to fuck him, so 762 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: let it go. 763 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I wanted. 764 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: That's way crazier than the alter ship. He was like 765 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: you wanted it? 766 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 5: Like yeah. 767 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: It was like you're so angry at him, be angry 768 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: at me, like I wanted to dick, Like, yeah, I 769 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: chose him, I chose your best friend. 770 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, sick, And I guess to say that she was 771 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: in stage four wanted to get everything of hospice. Now 772 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to be mad at you when you're dead. 773 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: Get that off in hospice as wild. Don't tell me 774 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 5: that while you in hospice. 775 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 4: That low key might be the best time to air 776 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 4: out your grievances on your deathbed. 777 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: You got to call some chaos. 778 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: If you've been harboring think about him all. 779 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 5: Take some ship to the grave with you. 780 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: If you've been having something. 781 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 5: I'm a fan of taking some ship to the grave. 782 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 4: Some stuff. 783 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 6: But say it's like a parent or whatever, and it's 784 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 6: and it's one of those things that you'll never get 785 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 6: the chance to say this again. You have to no 786 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 6: matter what, whether they can respond or not, if they're 787 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 6: even in best Yeah. 788 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 5: But some shit you say. 789 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: Some shit you say that on your deathbed is like 790 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: you know, like, Yo, when we went through that breakup, 791 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: you know, I sat outside in your house, parked in 792 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: the car, like for days, like just like some sweet 793 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 3: sentimental ship Like now we get together. You don't say, yo, 794 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: you're your homeboy, that you're mad at Yo. I definitely 795 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: pushed up on him. 796 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 4: No, not that kind of stuff. 797 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 5: You take that to the grave, don't you know? 798 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 6: I mean tell me that that to take that to 799 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 6: the guy talking more like a fractured father's son relationship 800 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 6: and you finally are comfortable enough because your dad has 801 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 6: ten minutes left to live to have that conversation with 802 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 6: why didn't we. 803 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 5: Hate to put this out there? Family? Your parents are great, 804 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 5: love them. 805 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 4: Your dad is my dad in hospice. 806 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 5: No, I'm not putting I don't want to do that. 807 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: But just say, but just saying to your dad. 808 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 5: Okay, just say somebody's dad is that your dad? 809 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: Your dad? 810 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: And you're there and your dad is like, look, son, 811 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you this before you know, I mean, 812 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: clock out before I can hear the angels calling I'm 813 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: not your real father. You can't take that. You don't 814 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: want that. That'll fuck you up forever. That will fuck 815 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: you up forever. But at least it would confirm, because 816 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: that's the best that it is. 817 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: Well, it would get releive, it would validate the would. 818 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 5: It would validate Reddit and what they say. 819 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 6: But you know, I would feel I would film in 820 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 6: and say can you do it again so I can 821 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 6: post this on Reddit? 822 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 5: But you wouldn't. You wouldn't want that though. 823 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 6: You wouldn't want that because it's also not true. But 824 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of I'm. 825 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Saying, what if it was, I would I would actually 826 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: want that. No, but now it allowing them to go 827 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: with bed figure that out. I mean, it's fucked up 828 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: the timing because I'd have a bunch of questions my dad. 829 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, but at least now I can 830 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: start the journey of what the fuck? Yeah, I can 831 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: go find some answers. 832 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: Journey you have to ask your dad follow up questions. 833 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: But sometimes the journey of what the fuck is never ending. 834 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: It's what the fuck for the rest of your life. 835 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: That was my theme in therapy. 836 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, like what the fuck sometimes is like forever you 837 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: don't ever get like the answers, and even when you 838 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: get the answers, it's still what the fuck? 839 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 5: Like this is my dad, this piece of. 840 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: Ship, But I think that one allows you to start that. 841 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: In Best Man Holiday, she could have just kept that 842 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: ship to herself because I've already kind of accepted that. 843 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: She had to keep. She had to let him know 844 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: because he kept blaming his best friend, and she's like, 845 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: you putting. 846 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 3: It for them to be like listen, stop being mad 847 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: at each other, Like yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, don't. 848 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: I understand why I'm about to die? You're gonna need 849 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: him type ship that's why she did. 850 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 7: She had a reason for why she. 851 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, I get her reason. Everything you guys are saying, 852 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: I agree with. But I stayed in this marriage. We 853 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: had that wild ass fucking wedding, We got kids. I 854 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: just broke the running back single yard record and I 855 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: ran home just so you could die. And it's like, yo, yo, 856 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: why are you? I just got over the ship. Now 857 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: you're like, yo, I wanted to fuck your man's Like, 858 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: how about say something about the kids? But he was 859 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: And first of all, Best Man Holiday, which no one 860 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: really addresses, was one of the nastiest crews of all time. 861 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: They were some swingers. Everybody fucked everybody in that crew. 862 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: That's the movies. 863 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: That's no. Shelby just fucked everybody and Mia Barbara I 864 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: mean me and fuck best friends and Shelby fucked best friends. 865 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were married. Fucked him then and then in 866 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: the series, didn't they end up getting married to That's 867 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: they were a swinger crew. How were they not? 868 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 7: I don't think that they're dragging it. 869 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 6: You guys have friends that are like that, swingers like 870 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 6: not like friends. 871 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 2: Where the friends have fucked each other. 872 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 873 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, in the city here, I've got a pretty tight 874 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 6: friend group. There's like ten of them guys, girls, and 875 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 6: they've all fucked each other and now half of them 876 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 6: are off. 877 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 4: Getting engaged, but like not to each other. 878 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 6: Not no, like they all just w It's just like 879 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 6: a weird incestuous group, but like they're all cool and. 880 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 5: Any stent way though it is. 881 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 3: You kind of you kind of can understand why if 882 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 3: you're like real friends with a girl or a guy, 883 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: you can kind of see why y'all would become physical 884 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 3: because it's like, Yo, we really fuck with each other. 885 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: We have probably a lot of so we really know 886 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: each other, we trust each other, we're loyal to each other, 887 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: like you know, this is my real friend. And then 888 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 3: some nights you just like yo, like I'm horny. 889 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: I'm horny to like fuck it. 890 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean it happens when you run in smaller circles 891 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: or the same crowd, it is bound to happen to 892 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: some degree. A friend of ours that I won't name 893 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: said the most profound thing at last, lap in one 894 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: of those cesspools of everybody knows each other said, Hey, 895 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: everyone in here has fucked everyone. Just find the person 896 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: you like and make it work. I can't I'm not 897 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: I'm not mature enough. 898 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 5: The book of Last Lap, Yeah I can't. 899 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: I understood the book. He was trying to say, in 900 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: any environment and for those that are listening and don't know, 901 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: Last Lab, it's a bar in New York where everybody knows. 902 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: Everything, has cocktails. 903 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 6: Beautiful place, beautiful place, beautiful established. 904 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: I love. 905 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: It's like it's like cheers that ass. Everyone knows everyone, 906 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: Everyone kind of has a history. It's the ghost of 907 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: pussy and dick past. No matter what who, no matter 908 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: who you are, there's a body in there. And if 909 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: you're going to be in that environment and want to 910 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: stay around that, you have to learn how to deal with. 911 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, but pasts that. 912 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: Are intertwined with people. I'm not saying friends per safe. 913 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, people that you know, but people can't deal with that. 914 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 5: That's easier said. 915 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: It's very tough because you could you. 916 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: Could be dating a girl that you was like, y'all 917 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 3: was cool at first, and yah hooked up a few times, 918 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 3: feelings start to like get real, and then y'all recognize 919 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: that and more times than none of the girl will 920 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: probably be like, yo, let's just stop you, I mean 921 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 3: like doing this, cause like it's getting like to a 922 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 3: point where like it's the friendship is like disappearing. Like 923 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 3: now it's like we're arguing, you know, like you're upset 924 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 3: if I go here, I from hanging out with these people. 925 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 5: Let's get back to being friends. 926 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: Y'all both agree. Cool, But then you go to last 927 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: lap and nobody knows that y'all was hooking up. 928 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 5: Did y'all keep it? 929 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, y'all keep it under wraps, like y'all don't 930 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: really tell people like best sneaky links are like yeah. 931 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 3: And then now you walking last lap and she at 932 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 3: the table and your man got you know, he kind 933 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 3: of and you know your man, you know when he 934 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: pushing up and he like too close to her. Now 935 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 3: them rock shrimps don't don't even taste them no more 936 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 3: the little I mean the rock Yeah. 937 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 6: It's not even hitting. 938 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 5: It's like y'all about to take it to go. Nobody 939 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 5: takes that ship to go. 940 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: We eat here. 941 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 5: Now you acting funny, Now you're acting weird. 942 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: In last lap year you're taking your wings to go, 943 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 3: or or like you wanted. 944 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 5: Like you you got to get up early. You want 945 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 5: to sit down and kick it with the crew. 946 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 3: Why because your man is all getting close with the 947 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: girl that is your friend to y'all are all friends. 948 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: But you could tell he pushing up tonight, so and 949 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 3: you could tell she receiving a push up. I learned 950 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: she ain't telling him to back up, she ain't moving 951 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 3: away from him. 952 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 4: They're sharing a napkin. 953 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I learned. 954 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: I learned pretty early that I wasn't built for that 955 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: because I was raised in the male toxic shit of like, 956 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: if that's not your girl, she's for the streets. I 957 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: know it doesn't sound good, but that's how we when 958 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: we were teenagers. 959 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 5: And we got to revisit that, we got that. So 960 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 5: I used to have that that's not that's not true, 961 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 5: that's not it's definitely not. That's not real. 962 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: But I subscribed to that because I was a young, 963 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: immature person and an insecure person that didn't know much. 964 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: So there'd be times when I was dealing with a 965 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: chick that we weren't dating per se, he was fucking, 966 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: and friends like, I mean, what's up with her? 967 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 4: Come on? 968 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: She if it's not your girls for everybody right, And 969 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: I'd like pretending to me like, yeah, no, I don't 970 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: even care, And then they go over there and I'd 971 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: be fucking fuming in the corner. 972 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 973 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: So I learned, probably by twenty two twenty three, to 974 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: say we're not dating, but I like her, so no. Yeah, 975 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: And then I became the corniest human being. And I 976 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: didn't mind at all because it was for my inner piece. 977 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. Now I understand that she's. 978 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: Not for everybody. I'm sorry. 979 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 2: No, She's for me and one other person and her 980 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 2: other tee. 981 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: I can roy is different. I could never say it. 982 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 3: I can't say it, and I will never say it. 983 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 4: You tweet about it. 984 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't. 985 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even do that, but I would like go home. 986 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 3: I would go home and be on my Morris Chestnut 987 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: boys in the hood, swinging at the airshit like I'll 988 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 3: do that. But I'm never gonna say yo, nah yo. 989 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: I like her, like even though she's full of nah. 990 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 3: I can't say because I. 991 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 5: Would throw up if I try to say that. 992 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: Let's let's say it, like, I would physically get sick 993 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 3: if it was a girl that's like, that's not my girl. 994 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: And I know, like a few of the homies, you know, 995 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: like they had a little fun with her and I 996 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 3: but I like her. 997 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 5: I can't say it. I can't say it. 998 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's a different scenario which plenty of men 999 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: fall victim too that you did. You were last in line, 1000 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: and then maybe you kind of liked her a little 1001 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: bit more than everyone else. I'm saying the other way around, 1002 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: where you maybe brought her around, or everyone's trying to 1003 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: hit and you maybe hit first, and then they start asking, like, yo, 1004 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: what's up with her? Like you're doing anything with that, 1005 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: Like no, Na, we just fucking or whatever, and then 1006 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: they go hit on her and you start feeling a 1007 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: way because I used to go home and punch the 1008 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: fucking air like Cuba. 1009 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 5: Not with every girl though, just it would be one 1010 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 5: that you like. Damn. 1011 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: I like her though, but not with every girl, like 1012 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 3: I know, we not. That's just that's crazy. I like 1013 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: the women I sleep with, not everything. You don't like 1014 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: everyoneman you sleep. 1015 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: You don't like every gameest thing about me. 1016 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 5: Actually, you don't like every girl that you slept with, No, but. 1017 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: Ones that I was consistently dealing with. I'm not saying. 1018 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: There was plenty of casual relationships that weren't anything, and 1019 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: we both knew that, but I always liked them, Like 1020 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: seems I didn't want my friends. 1021 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 5: It's only one. It's really only one factor in all 1022 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 5: of that. 1023 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have had any issue if she went. If 1024 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: she went and somebody else, that's fine because we're you know, 1025 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: we're not together, and it is. 1026 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 4: What it is. 1027 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, but my friend hitting on her my friend, fucking yeah, 1028 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,959 Speaker 1: I liked her too much for that. Go fuck a stranger, like, Nah, 1029 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: you're not being passed around by my friends. I like 1030 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: you too much. 1031 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 5: I think that it really only bails out. 1032 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: She passing us around at the end of the day. 1033 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I don't never have that time we 1034 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: think we're passing a girl around here, Yeah, weren't passing 1035 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: us around. 1036 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's really only boils down to when you 1037 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: just fucking with no condom. 1038 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 5: Don't be the ones where you just like nah. 1039 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've loved every girl. I remember the 1040 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: first time one of my friends fucked a girl that 1041 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: I was fucking when I said, you're no, go ahead, 1042 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do in a consensual way. Everyone 1043 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: I know, it's times period. I was fucking upset. So 1044 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: that's when I started saying, Noah, I like her, bro 1045 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: after he already beat no no, no, I moved on 1046 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: after punching the air for a while the next time 1047 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: I was in that position like no, no, you're not 1048 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: fucking her. Yeah, because I've also been put in that 1049 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: position where girls come up to me like your man's 1050 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: just hit on me, and like what does that say? 1051 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm your girl, but what does that 1052 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: say about? But does he what do you think of me? 1053 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: But does he know that you and Shorty were like, 1054 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 3: because that's happened to me, Like I've flirted with girls 1055 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: that I didn't know what my friends were dealing with, 1056 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 3: Like you know, you don't always tell your homeboys every 1057 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 3: girl that you date or you talk to, like you don't. 1058 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 6: Know, We'll see. 1059 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be offended either way because I've had like 1060 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: guys like coming like hopping my dms and it's like 1061 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: the friend of the person I'm sleeping with at the time. Yeah, 1062 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: we might be like not we're not advertising that we're 1063 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 2: dating or sleeping together. But I'm like, so you're not 1064 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,959 Speaker 2: telling your friends about not even like telling your friends 1065 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: about me, But like now I feel like you talking 1066 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: shit like you like, oh no, she like she up 1067 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 2: for grabs, Like I get I get extremely I feel 1068 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: extremely disrespected by that, like if I feel like I'm 1069 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 2: up for grabs. 1070 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: I've been putting that position where I couldn't really be 1071 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: mad at my friend because we were living by that mentality. 1072 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: There was like the unspoken word that if it's not 1073 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: your girl, like anyone can speak to her, she's not 1074 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: your property or anything. So I guess there is some 1075 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: positive thinking in that. But I've had the girl come 1076 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: up to me like, your man's just hit on me, 1077 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: and like, I can't get mad because that's we have 1078 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: that unspoken word as friends. 1079 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you say in response to that? 1080 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: Because response ten years ago? 1081 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 2: But know what I'm saying, What would you say in 1082 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: response to that when a girl will come up. 1083 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 7: To you and say, Oh, your man's just hit on me. 1084 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: I said, I'll go talk to him, and then you know, 1085 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: we can't say that. I'm saying what I've said, Yeah, 1086 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: I'll talk to him. 1087 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 4: He didn't know. 1088 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 5: Oh if you don't know, then yeah, no, but he 1089 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 5: knew I was. 1090 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: I lied like, oh no, he knew. 1091 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 3: Now, because sometimes you don't your friend really don't know that, 1092 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 3: y'all y'all talking like not like that. They obviously know 1093 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 3: you know each other and things like that, but they 1094 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 3: don't know that. 1095 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: It's like, but it put me in a jammed up 1096 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: space because she's looking at me, like, so, did you 1097 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: tell your friends that like the streets or something? And 1098 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: when I didn't do that, that ship but we had 1099 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 1: that unspoken word as friendless. That that's how shit went. 1100 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: It was it was nasty. Yeah, there can be awful 1101 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: things within consensual sex as well. Yeah, well what an environment. 1102 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 5: It's tough out here. 1103 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 6: What if when you think you found the girl that 1104 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 6: you want, but she ends up being not the person 1105 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 6: you thought she was, so you try to make her 1106 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 6: someone that she isn't. 1107 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh no, you're you're you're you're setting yourself up for 1108 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 3: heart heart failure, given heartbreak, heart failure. 1109 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: Give me some more details in this hYP so say. 1110 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 6: Just hypothetically, hypothetically, say I'm a black man. 1111 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 4: Just think about that. 1112 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 6: You close your eyes, you close your eyes'll it gets dark, 1113 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 6: William and say I'm dating a white one when we 1114 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 6: know it never happened. Crazy right, And say, you know, 1115 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 6: in the culture of black history, I look at strong 1116 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 6: black women like Coreta Scott King and Michelle Obama. Those 1117 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 6: are the women that I want my girl to emulate. 1118 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 6: So I take this snow princess and I put her 1119 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 6: in a position to be one of these women. In 1120 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 6: this case, I'm talking about Jonathan Major. It's going to 1121 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 6: make her vice president, which Jonathan Major's which tried to 1122 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 6: take his white girlfriend and said she needs to act 1123 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 6: more like Michelle Obama and cretit. Scott King to him, 1124 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 6: she needs her to be like them? To him, how 1125 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 6: do we feel about. 1126 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: That part of my face? But y'all are race baiting? 1127 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: Prove it? 1128 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: Why why is that an issue? If he's talking about 1129 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: how great those women are, why is it they're a 1130 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: black woman and not a woman in that regard. I 1131 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: want you to act like this woman because I revere 1132 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: how this woman charas would collapse, because yeah, like I 1133 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: don't race man. Y'all are weird for thinking that's weird. 1134 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's weird to tell a girl 1135 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: act like Michelle Obama, But I don't think it's the 1136 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: racial thing that y'all trying to make it. 1137 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 2: If Kanye comes on to me, don't come over here 1138 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 2: to talk about some I need you. 1139 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 7: To act more like Kim Kardashian. Are like Parashol. 1140 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 4: No, I think it's different in reverse. 1141 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 6: No, like if you're telling a black woman to act 1142 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 6: like Paris Helen, not that she would be. Let's do 1143 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 6: more women that are on part with the Michelle Obama's 1144 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 6: in the credit Scott Kings. 1145 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 4: So what's like a. 1146 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 3: Whitemars if you if your boyfriend says, I need you 1147 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: to be the what's what's Tom Brady's ex wife name? 1148 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 4: Just hell? 1149 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 5: I need a super bottle? 1150 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 4: No, not I need you. 1151 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 3: I need you to be like, you know, take care 1152 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 3: of the kids, hold it down, hold it down. 1153 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 5: Never she's black. 1154 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, but what if your black boyfriend wanted 1155 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 3: was compared like saying, y'all want you to hold me 1156 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 3: down the way these women held their husbands down. 1157 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 5: But these women Jacqueline Kennedy, M. 1158 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 6: You know Jackie Ock like Jackie O and she held 1159 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,959 Speaker 6: his whole head. 1160 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 5: I mean, would you feel offended by that? Would you 1161 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 5: be like what you want me to if. 1162 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 7: My black husband told me to act like a white woman. 1163 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,959 Speaker 5: Or would my white cousin? 1164 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 2: Because because the race does matter, we're not about to 1165 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 2: sit apparent and pretend that race doesn't matter in relationships. 1166 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 7: Let's stop let's be stop. 1167 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 2: If my black if what you're saying the race, we're 1168 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 2: race baiting. The race doesn't matter. If my black husband 1169 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 2: is telling my white ass to act more like a 1170 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 2: black woman, I'm going to look at him and say, 1171 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: go be with one of those black. 1172 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: But why are you saying that that's an act of 1173 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: just a black woman. Both women have been a huge 1174 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: part of black history and our icons in that separately, 1175 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 1: they were good wives. Like I don't think he's saying 1176 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 1: to a white woman, go make black history and hold 1177 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: me down. I think he's saying, hey, I've observed how 1178 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama has been very supportive of Barack Obama. I 1179 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: don't think she's supportive because she's a black woman. I 1180 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: think she's an amazing black woman that is also supported 1181 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: to her husband. 1182 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: Or you're making sense, we're trying to make Jonathan Major's like, 1183 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 2: stop making sense. 1184 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 7: We get your point, and we're making fun of. 1185 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,919 Speaker 1: If you said go learn how to make colla greens 1186 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: or some racist shit, then yeah, then then we have 1187 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: a case here. 1188 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 6: Kraits Scott King held it down because because Martin Luther 1189 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 6: King was getting his ship off. 1190 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 5: Listen, you are the last person that can say that we. 1191 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 4: Know he was getting a ship off. 1192 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know if you're black. So I don't 1193 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 3: think I said, well, we don't know if you're black. 1194 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do. 1195 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 6: You just made my dad, you say. 1196 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, I used to think the same thing, 1197 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: but then I did some deep dives that the CIA 1198 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: just created those photos of who of MLK fucking other women? 1199 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 7: Oh get the fuck out of here. 1200 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 4: Oh clu please, We're not doing that. 1201 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 3: And you know what I think about the old I 1202 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 3: get how old was Martin Luther King when he died. 1203 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 5: Wasn't he like thirty something? He was pretty young, very young. 1204 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 2: They used to look old back in them days. They 1205 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,479 Speaker 2: did used to look old back in them days. 1206 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 3: It looked like Jonathan he was thirty six when he 1207 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 3: stop it, thirty nine when he died. 1208 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 4: Thirty nine. 1209 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 5: Crazy listen, man, I know what I was doing at 1210 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 5: thirty nine, is all I'm saying. 1211 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 6: The fact that you can say that in the past 1212 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 6: is crazy. 1213 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 5: I know what I was. You know what I'm saying. 1214 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 5: I know how I was giving it up. And I 1215 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 5: ain't never had the movement that Martin had. 1216 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: I was about to say, you ain't had that moment. 1217 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 9: I ain't had that motion. I ain't had the motion 1218 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 9: that Martin had. You know what I'm saying, I never 1219 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 9: had that motion. I never had them gather in March 1220 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 9: from Selma all the way there. I ain't never had that. 1221 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 9: So I'm just saying, I know how it goes. You 1222 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 9: get back to the hotel. 1223 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 5: You know, they get real hospitable, like, hey, you know, 1224 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 5: doctor King, do you need any coffee? 1225 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 3: Do you need any you know, they turn around, you know, 1226 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 3: they was wearing completed dresses and you turn around, You're like, oh, 1227 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 3: miss you know, miss Graham. 1228 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: Got a little calf, got a nice cab. 1229 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 5: I know Martin was giving it up. 1230 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 4: Malcolm Exican Malcolm. 1231 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 5: I remember Detroit Red. He was out there pimping them. 1232 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 8: Hole. 1233 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 4: He was a good dude. 1234 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I know that part of the story. 1235 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 3: I don't forget about. You know, they like to forget 1236 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 3: about that. That to me, that makes the man the man. 1237 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 3: It's like, it's the whole story. This is who he 1238 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 3: was and who ended up being great story, great leader, 1239 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,479 Speaker 3: great role model, all of that. But we not gonna 1240 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 3: act like pimping wasn't still in Malcolm, though it was still. 1241 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 7: There out of rock Malcolm to sleep for sure. 1242 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 4: Just imagine like this. 1243 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 3: So you know, Miss Graham was in the office saying 1244 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 3: the same ship, Like, listen, brother, Malcolm, you good. 1245 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 5: You can knock. 1246 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: The the shabaz out of me if you want to. 1247 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You know they was giving 1248 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 5: it up like that. 1249 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean, I think Solange sums that 1250 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: entire thing of very well on older self care. We've 1251 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: been lovers on a mission. But what's love without a mission? 1252 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: We've been lovers on a mission. 1253 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 4: Let's take it. 1254 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: Intermission after this march. Fuck, that's definitely what she meant 1255 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: in that whole. 1256 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 3: Fun Yeah, let's doodle, let's do let's do the work. 1257 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 3: Let's let's let's galvanize the people. Let's let's march for freedom. 1258 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 3: But when you get home tonight. 1259 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,959 Speaker 1: On't you hold back some older self care? 1260 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? You tear this ass up. That's what you do. 1261 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: Who would you, guys tell your significant other to act 1262 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: more like a great question? 1263 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 8: Roy. 1264 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 5: It depends on where we're at. If we're in the bed, 1265 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 5: I'm gonna cut you off. 1266 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: Let's make it even mess here. Pick a black woman 1267 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: and a white woman, because DeMars wants to race Bade. 1268 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 4: Okay. 1269 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 5: If we're in the bed, I want you to act 1270 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,479 Speaker 5: like Jada Fire. 1271 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 1272 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 5: If we're at a restaurant. 1273 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 4: I want you to act like to do in settings. 1274 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 5: Sharon Stone and uh, just get out. 1275 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: What does your show get the point. 1276 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: Telling your black girlfriend to act like Sharon Stone? 1277 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 3: Make sure you don't act like Sharon Stone enough for 1278 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 3: me in this restaurant, Like why you got panties on? 1279 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 5: Take the panties off? You know what I mean? You 1280 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 5: got a nice dress on? Like, let me see that thing? 1281 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 5: That's all? Why not? 1282 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 2: You can't tell your significant others to act like your 1283 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 2: hall passed, though, because the first thing in my. 1284 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 7: Mind, no, not, I wish. 1285 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 2: No, because I'm thinking in my head when you ask 1286 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 2: the question, I'm like, Okay, who would I tell my 1287 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: significant other to act like? And I start thinking of 1288 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: my hall passes. Now I tell my significant others who 1289 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: my hall passes are. So I can't sit up there 1290 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: and tell you you need to act like so, and 1291 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 2: so I'm not. 1292 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, but are they your hall pass because of how 1293 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 6: they act or just how they look? 1294 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 4: Because those are two different. 1295 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 7: Both of them. 1296 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: Hall passes aren't fair? Do we talk about this on microady. 1297 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 1: We did my repeating myself. Yet, Yeah, all passes are 1298 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: set up. 1299 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 7: I know, because I can fuck my hall pass and 1300 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 7: you can't have. 1301 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 6: I think guys need to go about it differently. You 1302 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 6: don't go for the A list celebrity, just her best friend. 1303 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: They are readily available. 1304 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, fine, your hall passes, eas Elbow is your best friend, Melissa. 1305 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 1: See if I got a hall pass for we Rose, 1306 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: I see ninety grand doesn't even get it done. 1307 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, that's an expensive past. 1308 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 4: Just kind of even the playing field. 1309 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 2: My best friends wouldn't fuck my men with my pussy 1310 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 2: like they wouldn't fuck them with somebody else's. 1311 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 5: Oh you think? 1312 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 4: Nah. 1313 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 5: I love when women think that. 1314 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 7: We have different types. 1315 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 4: We all have. 1316 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: They think all my men are ugly and hideous, and 1317 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 2: I feel the same way about them. 1318 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,399 Speaker 7: I think all their men are gay. 1319 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, but when women. 1320 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 4: Are you like break bread with these people off. 1321 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just have different tastes than men. 1322 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: But women don't have a type. When it's time to spite, 1323 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: they don't. They don't carey. You and all your friends 1324 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: may have different types, but if they want to get 1325 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: back at you, they will fuck someone that's not their type. Yeah, 1326 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: they'll they'll fuck your ex. That's not their type. If 1327 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: it is time to spite. 1328 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 2: Bro I'm thirty years old. I'm not hanging around them 1329 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: type of. 1330 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 6: Naw, of course. 1331 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean we're hypothetically speaking, yeah, but. 1332 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, oh no, some bitches will definitely. 1333 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 4: Yes. 1334 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 2: Well, I've sent my friends a missions to fuck girls 1335 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: boyfriends and they were not their type at all, and 1336 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 2: they went on that mission. 1337 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: Would you tell, like, maybe your man to act more 1338 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: like should Knight? 1339 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 2: Now? 1340 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 7: I'm good, I like my thief. I'm good. Thank you 1341 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 7: so much. 1342 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,439 Speaker 1: You've been through the prison thing, prison reform. If you will, 1343 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to bring in your prison past and push 1344 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: the night on you. Cool Sugar is a podcast now, 1345 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: so naturally he has to jump into the messiness that 1346 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: it takes to promote a podcast, and he posted a 1347 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 1: photo with did he son Justin Colmes. I mean, I'm 1348 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: always big on kids are off limit, but so where 1349 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: are we living? 1350 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 4: And I don't. 1351 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: Think it's that far out of Shug's wheelhouse of messiness. 1352 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: It's really Dave Mace and I'm not putting this on 1353 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 1: his jacket, but he is producing that SUG podcast, which 1354 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: is great. I think it's four episodes in I've listened 1355 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: to three of them. Dave's doing a great job with that, 1356 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: but I would imagine he would be somewhat behind this 1357 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: to promote it. Yeah, we can put it on Shug, 1358 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: but Dave, you're still attached to it and you're the 1359 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: one that's not in jail. 1360 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 5: What's the context of this photo? 1361 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 3: Though I didn't hear the episode, is there like a 1362 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 3: context to what Shug said in an episode? The reason 1363 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 3: why this picture was posted because I don't think that 1364 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 3: I've seen this picture before. 1365 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,720 Speaker 1: I haven't either. I'm sure with something Sug was holding 1366 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,240 Speaker 1: on to during that whole back and forth in the nineties, 1367 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: and now he's addressing a lot of stuff because you 1368 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: do not understand for the most part, Sugar was pretty 1369 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: quiet as far as pressing media went for a long time, 1370 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 1: and people have talked about, as we say all the time, 1371 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: there's a whole YouTube community that's dedicated to death Row, 1372 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: Tupac and those ninety four to ninety six years. So 1373 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,240 Speaker 1: Sugar is now addressing a lot of stuff that people 1374 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: have been saying for you know, the last few years 1375 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: on YouTube. And it's a good podcast, and I understand 1376 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: him telling his side. This is promotion, Like everybody had 1377 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: known that there was some dealings with people's previous baby mothers, 1378 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: and there's they were putting out tupac photos with Puff's 1379 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: other baby mother, like the same shit we were just 1380 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: talking about with last lap. It's the same world, like 1381 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: people are going to intertwine at that time and date 1382 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: other people, and this is where it gets messy because 1383 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: you could have something over someone whence you'll start beefing. 1384 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: And he posted that photo. Yeah, then it's all to 1385 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: promote the fucking podcast. This isn't trying to rehash the 1386 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 1: Bad Boy Death Row beef. 1387 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: Those are Mesa's legs that are in the photo in 1388 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 2: the corner, So yeah, I think he did it just 1389 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 2: to taunt him. He was talking about his dealings with 1390 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 2: her in the podcast. 1391 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 5: He was talking about his dealings with Lisa. 1392 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 8: Well. 1393 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 2: DJ Quick had came out previously and said that Lisa 1394 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 2: hung out with Shug and the Death Row crew on 1395 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 2: the night of the infamous nineteen ninety five Source Awards, 1396 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 2: and they're saying this is where the photo could have 1397 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 2: been taken. There are other reports that this was taken 1398 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: in a Bad Boy office, which I don't see that 1399 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: happening because there were rumors of him having of Diddy 1400 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 2: having an allread I mean, not him, I'm sorry, Shug 1401 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 2: having an all read office or whatever they're saying. It 1402 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 2: could be taken this office, it could have been taken 1403 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 2: at the source of awards. We don't know exactly where the 1404 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: photo was taken, but he really released it just as 1405 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 2: Ory said, for promo. 1406 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: And like, come on to me, that type of shit 1407 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: is corny, Like, yeah, what if this was before Puff 1408 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: and Sugar because at one point they were associates, they 1409 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: weren't beefing, Like what if my son was just around 1410 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: and like this was a two second uh interaction in 1411 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: a green room, well red room, and someone took a 1412 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: photo of it. And now you're gonna just come on, 1413 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: how old is justin Now? 1414 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 3: This is a this is a very h this is 1415 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 3: a very dangerous thing though, Like you can't you know, 1416 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 3: because we know the history of what actually happened between 1417 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 3: Death from and Bad Boy what it called. I'm old 1418 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 3: enough to remember that. Out of the crew here, I 1419 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 3: know what the energy was, like, I know you know 1420 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 3: how many years it took for you know, East Coast 1421 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 3: artists to actually start being accepted and you know, embraced 1422 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 3: on the West Coast after all of that. So when 1423 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 3: you do things like this, this kind of rehashes you know. 1424 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 5: Old ship that we should be moved past. 1425 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 3: And you know, you know, it's just I just don't 1426 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 3: see this this the purpose it is. If it's not progressive, 1427 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 3: then you know what is it for? 1428 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 5: Is it? Is it for? You know, drama? Is it 1429 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 5: for clicks? 1430 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 4: Is it? You know? 1431 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 5: What is this for? 1432 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: And to everyone that will comment on this and be like, oh, well, 1433 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: Misa was the one that leaked it this and that 1434 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm not dumb. She didn't just leak this out of 1435 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: nowhere and Shug happens to have a podcast and happens 1436 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: to be talking about this whole thing. Yeah, you're just 1437 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: part of your pond in this entire thing, and they 1438 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: used you and now you're the one that was rumored 1439 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 1: to leak this photo. So yeah, it's still on SUG, 1440 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: it's still on Dave, still on Misa, and I just 1441 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: think it's it's weird and corny, like, okay, cool, you 1442 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: high five my son. That's fucking twenty five. 1443 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, it's like, what are you pointless? 1444 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously puff has a lot more going 1445 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: on currently. I don't think he gives a fuck about 1446 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: that photo with more accusations coming out. We recorded this 1447 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: on Wednesday to Summer sixth, and Puff did reply, which 1448 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: I believe was on his Instagram. Mm hmm, Joey, we 1449 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: pull up his his response. 1450 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1451 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: In the past few days there have been, of course, 1452 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: more women coming out, more lawsuits, and Puff posted today 1453 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: December sixth. Enough is enough. For the last couple of weeks, 1454 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: I've sat silently and watched people try to assassinate my character, 1455 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: destroy my reputation, and my legacy. Sickening allegations have been 1456 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 1: made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday. 1457 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Let me be absolutely clear. I did not do any 1458 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: of the awful things being alleged. I will fight from 1459 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: my name, my family, and the truth. Signed Sean Diddy 1460 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Coombs dam as I Love. Well, No, you would have 1461 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: to because you rebrand signing that is love would be crazy. 1462 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:45,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1463 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: No, okay, Well, Maul, you and I got on here 1464 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 1: and a big point that we did make if you 1465 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 1: and I were ever to be accused of this type 1466 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: of stuff, we would fuck with lawyers, saying we would 1467 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 1: immediately come out like I did not do that shit. Yeah, 1468 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: I am here to take this as far as y'all 1469 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: want to go. I'm not settling at all. Do we 1470 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: think Puff is saying this specifically about all the new 1471 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: allegations or is this also withinto the Cassie allegations that 1472 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: he already settled on. 1473 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 3: Well, I don't, I don't. I mean, I'm not a lawyer. 1474 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 3: But if you already settled that speculating it's there's an NDA, 1475 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure there there's. 1476 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 5: There's an NDA. 1477 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 3: But uh, if you settled that usually I know legally no, 1478 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 3: but that usually is an admission of guilt on some 1479 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 3: of the things in the lawsuit, maybe not all, maybe 1480 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 3: some because you did settle, you didn't fight it. So 1481 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, let's just settle this whatever out of court. 1482 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 4: Cool. 1483 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 3: Now there's been more allegations, there's been more victims coming forward, 1484 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 3: and now Puff has decided to, you know, post on 1485 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 3: the social media and basically say that he is not 1486 01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 3: guilty of any of the allegations. Now, pictures have been 1487 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 3: released that we're in a lawsuit. There's a picture of 1488 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 3: a unidentified young lady who they're saying was seventeen at 1489 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 3: the time sitting on his lap, obviously in the studio 1490 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 3: hanging out. She alleges that she was sexually assaulted in 1491 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 3: the bathroom of the studio by multiple people, was flown, 1492 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 3: I think from Detroit to New York. So, you know, 1493 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 3: this is something I think that we're gonna have to 1494 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 3: sit back and watching umfold. Obviously, Puffs now spoken, you know, 1495 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 3: in some sense, in some manner, he has posted on 1496 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 3: the social media saying that none of this is true 1497 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 3: and saying that enough is enough, and now he's gonna 1498 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 3: fight for his name and his reputation, which is something 1499 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 3: that I said when we first talked about this is 1500 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 3: something that we need to hear from. 1501 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 5: We need it from Puff, and I want to hear 1502 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 5: from lawyers. 1503 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 3: I want to hear directly from one of the kings 1504 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 3: of our culture, one of the guys that we've idolized, 1505 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 3: one of the guys that we've looked up two for 1506 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 3: so many years. And he obviously has a platform. He 1507 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 3: has a television network, so he has more space and 1508 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 3: opportunity to sit in address the culture than most. 1509 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 4: Of us do. 1510 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Does this change whether you feel like sorry interrupted? Does 1511 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 2: it change whether you feel like he's guilty? 1512 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 9: Or not. 1513 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 7: Does what change the change your opinion of whether he's 1514 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 7: guilty or not. 1515 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 5: No, I need to hear more than enough is enough. 1516 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: And also two things can be tried. 1517 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 4: I don't. 1518 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: I want to choose my words very correctly because I'm 1519 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: not discrediting at all what miss Dow is saying within 1520 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: these allegations at all. But we can feel how we 1521 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: feel about the Cassie thing for multiple reasons, and then 1522 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: see that he's responding to these of Hey, I'm going 1523 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 1: to fight this and I'm going to see this one through. Okay, 1524 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: he has the right to do so. 1525 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1526 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: No, for sure, I'm not saying otherwise, And I want 1527 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: to do process is something I do believe in, and 1528 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: for all the people on the internet that killed mal 1529 01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: and I and made us into something that we aren't, 1530 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 1: because we are people that believe in due process and 1531 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: that things can be alleged and not be true. That 1532 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: was gone once the settlement happened, and there's no settlement here, 1533 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: so I can also believe Cassie and then say, if 1534 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna do your due process thing here, then let's 1535 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: see it out. No, that's why listen, Because he didn't 1536 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: post this when the Casti thing happened, right, because I 1537 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: will say if he posted this when the Casti thing happened, 1538 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have changed my opinion per se, but I 1539 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: would have happily said due process. You have to hear 1540 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: both sides of this. There's plenty of evidence in what 1541 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Cassie was saying. Of course, Puff is entitled to his 1542 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: side of that. But once the settlement happens, it does 1543 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: change things. Whether I want to agree with me or not, 1544 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: that's fine, it's your own opinion. It changes things. And 1545 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: especially after you settle with one thing and then when 1546 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff comes, now you're ready to fight. 1547 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it gives more validity to what 1548 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: Maul and I were saying before, but you know, I 1549 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: think Puff is allowed to since as everyone is not 1550 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: to discredit this this woman where it's like, oh, we 1551 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: believe Cassie because Cassie is Cassie, and we don't believe 1552 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: her because she's miss Dough and we don't know her. 1553 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying at all. It's just different. 1554 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: If Puffis wants to go the distance and tell his side, 1555 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: then let's hear it. 1556 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 3: And that's what that's all I'm saying, Like, because again, 1557 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 3: we've seen these things before. We've seen allegations and things 1558 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 3: like that, and then we've seen the leeged, you know, assault, 1559 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 3: the person that is accused of doing these things just 1560 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 3: disappear for some time, kind of stay out of the radar, 1561 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 3: you know, We've seen it happen, and then all of 1562 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 3: a sudden come back and all is forgotten. Everybody's moved on, 1563 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 3: and with allegations like this on somebody of this magnitude 1564 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 3: that has been at the forefront of our culture since 1565 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 3: I was a kid, we need more than an Instagram post. 1566 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 4: This is a start. 1567 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 3: This is obviously him publicly standing on his his name 1568 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 3: and his reputation, which is okay, good, But now if 1569 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 3: we're going to. 1570 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 5: Talk about it, we got to talk about all of it. 1571 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1572 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 6: Well, this is him now saying he's whereas before it 1573 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 6: was a settlement that happened very fast, now he's laying 1574 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 6: claim and saying he's willing to fight. So now we 1575 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 6: know he's not in the mood or at least willing 1576 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 6: to settle, so we should expect to hear more. If 1577 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 6: these other women now are up to four allegations, do 1578 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 6: file lawsuits. We should expect with this last line of 1579 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 6: his post here that he will fight for it. I 1580 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 6: would imagine the legal route rather than blowing up cars. 1581 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 6: But do we think he'll just do that quietly or 1582 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 6: will he continue to be vocal throughout that whole process. 1583 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was on the episode that 1584 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: we discussed everything with Puff or was on Patreon when 1585 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: we discussed everything, but we did say, after this settlement, 1586 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: plenty of women are going to come out, and some 1587 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 1: of them will very much be and I'm not saying 1588 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 1: at all, so I want to choose my words carefully 1589 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: that miss Doe here is a liar. But no matter what, 1590 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: let's call spade a spade, there's plenty of cases where 1591 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: when women see a settlement happen, they will go above 1592 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: and beyond to try to get money. And this is 1593 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: where things get diluted, because I do think we are 1594 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 1: going to hear from Puff and it's gonna be on 1595 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: the cases that are bullshit, and he will be loud 1596 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: about these cases, as he should if they are absolutely false. 1597 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: But that's the problem. 1598 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 5: But which is why I said, because when. 1599 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: These women are become the women that are lying, Yeah, 1600 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 1: it's hypothetical we're talking about here. I can totally see 1601 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: somebody cherry, especially a lawyer, saying, well, let's be super 1602 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: active in the press with the one that we know 1603 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: is absolute bullshit. You can stay, you get all your 1604 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: shit off, you get your Jesse Smolett's speech off in 1605 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 1: court if you want to, because we know this is bullshit, 1606 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 1: and that when it comes to the court of public opinion, 1607 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: will build your reputation back up because it'd be like, hey, look, 1608 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 1: this one was clearly bullshit. Now we can question everything 1609 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: that's real, right, So I think people will be very, 1610 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: very vocal about the women that are just here for 1611 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: a payday, because two things can be true. I think 1612 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: there's plenty of women just looking for a payday from puff. 1613 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 1: I believe Cassie, but I also believe that side as well. 1614 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Now we can be super vocal about the ones here 1615 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 1: for a payday because we could just credit that shit 1616 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 1: in two fucking seconds. And I've seen that happen in 1617 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 1: the music business plenty of times, where there is real 1618 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 1: accusations and then we do a whole press release from 1619 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 1: the label when it's some bullshit that the artist beats. 1620 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 1: So he told y'all. These are rumors. They trying to 1621 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: take him down. 1622 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is why I said, you know, the Caste 1623 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 3: case being settled and being closed, I'm sure in that 1624 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 3: settlement was she can never speak about it publicly. She 1625 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 3: can never address it. You know, they put all of 1626 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 3: that inside the settlement. 1627 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: And he can hide behind that NBA as well and 1628 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: as well. And now let's publicly go attack the ones 1629 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: that may be bullshit. Not again not saying Miss Doe 1630 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 1: here is bullshit, but we do. Let's again call spadus bay. 1631 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Plenty of women have reached out to Puff's lawyer and 1632 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 1: legal team looking for money, and some of it is 1633 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: probably bullshit, and some of it is probably bullshit, and 1634 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 1: that's the ones they're gonna be like, well, let's focus 1635 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: on this one. Let's make this circus happen, right. 1636 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 2: And I think that NDA is where it comes in. 1637 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 2: Where now that she has that NDA sign. How Puff 1638 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,879 Speaker 2: said in his statement, none of the things being alleged 1639 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 2: about me are true. Not what Miss Jane Doe is 1640 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 2: saying isn't true, or what case number two is saying 1641 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 2: wasn't true. None of this, including Cassie's case, is true. 1642 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 2: But Cassie came out, can't come out and say ah 1643 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 2: because that NDA was included. 1644 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: But neither can puff And that's great legal jargon there. 1645 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: There's plenty of cases now that he could easily say 1646 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 1: court say, Cassie was like, I thought we signed an NDA. 1647 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: You just said that everything, all the allegations are untrue. 1648 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the seven other women that are 1649 01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: over here. This wasn't about you. Easy in court to get. 1650 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 5: That either way. 1651 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 3: It goes the thing with you know, allegations like these 1652 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 3: are do you you never fully shake this stain off 1653 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 3: your jacket? Shit, You never really do. Even if you 1654 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 3: come out and prove that a lot of these women 1655 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 3: are lying, it's always going to come back to But 1656 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 3: the settlement though, you know what I mean that that 1657 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 3: one settlement like and again they can't speak on it. 1658 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,679 Speaker 5: Because it's settled. 1659 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 3: It's it's probably NBA's no neither side can address or 1660 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,679 Speaker 3: talk about that publicly. 1661 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 5: I'm sure that was in the settlement. 1662 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 1: And Demeris's reaction to that. Both y'all are right because 1663 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: it does never leave your jacket. Just a lot of 1664 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: people don't care when you have that jacket on exactly. Well, 1665 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't care, but never that get jacket. 1666 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't they got jacket, They got 1667 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 3: that same jacket. 1668 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 5: In they close. 1669 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 6: Well, that was the initial conversation we had was like, 1670 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 6: it's less about puff, It's more about how people would 1671 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 6: react in the industry to working with him and inviting 1672 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 6: him back into those rooms, because if he gets boxed 1673 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 6: out then he has nowhere to go. He'll be fine, 1674 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 6: but he'll be missing out on a lot of like 1675 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 6: you know, income that would be coming otherwise. 1676 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 4: So I don't know, like we'll see. 1677 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 6: I don't think the industry is going to give a fuck, 1678 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 6: but I hope these new women that are coming out 1679 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 6: aren't doing what that woman did. Remember during the heart 1680 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 6: of the Me Too movement, it fucked everything. When AZ's 1681 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 6: on'm sorry, you got charge of some shit, and then 1682 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 6: you took like one investigative looking behind the door, and 1683 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 6: it was like, oh, this woman just had a bad date, 1684 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 6: Like nothing wrong happened. She just wanted to She had 1685 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 6: a shitty date with a celebrity and thought that she 1686 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 6: needed to get involved with this movement that had so 1687 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 6: much going for it, and she undercut the entire thing. 1688 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 6: So I just hope that none of these women that 1689 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 6: have come out about Diddy are in turn going to 1690 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 6: undercut this whole thing because they, to your point, are 1691 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 6: just looking for a check. 1692 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 2: And so you bitches, who we are even considering that 1693 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm speaking directly to you as a woman, you are 1694 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 2: the scum of the fucking earth. You're just as bad 1695 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 2: as Diddy if you're coming just trying to get a 1696 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 2: pay day because you had a date or because you 1697 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 2: regret fucking somebody that you fucked, and you're gonna end 1698 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 2: up undercutting this entire movement and people who really spoke 1699 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 2: out and are really victims. 1700 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 7: Fuck you die slow. It's like literally the worst thing 1701 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 7: that you can do next to what he did. 1702 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fucking Jesse Smlett. 1703 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 2: Like, keep no, but justse Smullett didn't hurt anybody this 1704 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 2: for your bush. Yeah, don't just just keep it, just bitch, 1705 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 2: go get a job. 1706 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: Now, we'll get a rib and let it go. You 1707 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 1: can look at hate crimes like whoa Wellesse did. 1708 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 3: It's like making light of it or making fun of it. Yeah, 1709 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 3: and it's you know again, it's there's real victims, and 1710 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 3: we do know in this culture, you know, it's a 1711 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 3: lot of people opportunities looking for a payday. We know 1712 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 3: that that exists, and I'm sure, uh, he's going to 1713 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 3: have to deal with a lot of that. 1714 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:47,280 Speaker 5: But at the end of it, not everyone is lying. 1715 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 1: You've got mail, Julian, please pick a voicemail that has 1716 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,480 Speaker 1: nothing to do with sexual assault. 1717 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 4: Well, it does not do sexual assault. 1718 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 6: And while we look for healing in the entertainment industry, 1719 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,719 Speaker 6: there's plenty of toxicity in people's personal lives. So here's 1720 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 6: a fun relationship one. 1721 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,759 Speaker 10: I'm twenty three years old and my question is about 1722 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:09,600 Speaker 10: my relationship. 1723 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 8: I know I got a lot of questions about business. 1724 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 10: It's a lot, but I've been with my girlfriend since 1725 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 10: I was twenty years old, and we've been talking since. 1726 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,640 Speaker 8: We were nineteen and long stay should. We had a 1727 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:23,680 Speaker 8: lot of problems. 1728 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 10: She was threatening to cheat on me with other dudes. 1729 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,799 Speaker 10: She texts other dudes. And then I made a mistake 1730 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 10: of cheating myself, I mean necessarily mistake, which is the 1731 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 10: bad decision to cheating myself. And she went ahead and 1732 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 10: she did her thing, and she's constantly like used what 1733 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 10: I did as an excuse to keep doing and keep 1734 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 10: cheating and keep doing stuff. So My question to y'all 1735 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 10: is just what how do I how do I know 1736 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 10: about this as a grown male? 1737 01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 8: Because I messed up about this and I'm just so 1738 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 8: he look a great way. 1739 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 3: To love the show, like so like he recorded as 1740 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,599 Speaker 3: shit with an AirPod on another scully. 1741 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 6: So yeah, because the audio is a little muffled, I'll 1742 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 6: just reiterate. So he's young, he's twenty two. He's been 1743 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 6: with this girl since he was nineteen. He cheated, she 1744 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 6: then cheated on him, but then she also continues to 1745 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,839 Speaker 6: use his cheating as an excuse for her to keep cheating, 1746 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 6: but they won't separate there together, so it sounds like 1747 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 6: we're based on what he said he cheated once, she 1748 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 6: cheated in response, but then she's like, fuck you, I'm 1749 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 6: still gonna do my thing. 1750 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 4: But he didn't. 1751 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 6: Specify whether or not he's also still cheating, So in 1752 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 6: this current stance, he's faithful while she continues to cheat. 1753 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: It appeared that way, and I don't think any one 1754 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: named Franco from the Bronx would lie to us or 1755 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: tell the story in any other way. Not to say 1756 01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,120 Speaker 1: a body for a body is a good thing, but 1757 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 1: I can maybe see that moving forward at some point, 1758 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,479 Speaker 1: but she's in body debt now, like you can't do 1759 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 1: body for a body, and then you got that more. 1760 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 5: That never works, bro, you can't go body for body. 1761 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 2: Said that she was different, fucking different men. She could 1762 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,680 Speaker 2: still be fucking the same man that she originally. 1763 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Frank, we got to see him. 1764 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 4: I feel like that's worse. 1765 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 5: Just break up. I'm with my all. 1766 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 2: I'm a mom. 1767 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 1: No, no, no, do we even need to say? 1768 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 5: Why were Franco just just you're twenty two? Cut the 1769 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 5: girl like cut ties, go your separate ways. You're young. 1770 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 3: There's other people out there, like people put themselves in 1771 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 3: these situations and deal with this ship for no, It's 1772 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 3: like it's okay to just let people go and find 1773 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 3: somebody else. 1774 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 7: He loves her. 1775 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 5: He does not love her, Yes he do. He thinks 1776 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 5: he loves her. 1777 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 3: How many people did you love at twenty two that 1778 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 3: you thought you loved that you don't even think about 1779 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 3: it anymore. 1780 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 2: Never mind. 1781 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 6: I'm not. 1782 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 4: Got her. 1783 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,879 Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not gonna go there because my point. 1784 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 5: Was, yeah, I'm just you don't you don't love you 1785 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 5: don't love edge. He loves her, He doesn't love her. 1786 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 5: He thinks he loves her. 1787 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 6: I think this is a case if you like each 1788 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 6: other enough to pretend to be in a relationship, but 1789 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 6: you're both clearly aware that you want to see other people. 1790 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 5: This is dumb, This is toxic, This is not healthy. 1791 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 3: This is only gonna like leave you traumatized for further 1792 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 3: relationships in your life that you're gonna need healing from. 1793 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 1: And y'all are not gonna if discontinues, there's never gonna 1794 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,040 Speaker 1: be like y'all. Don't one day will both stop fucking y'all? 1795 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 3: Don't trust each other? Yeah, don't trust it. You could 1796 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 3: never trust her again. I can never trust her again. 1797 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 7: See that was my point. 1798 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 2: Hey. I hate to tell you, sweetie, because you're young 1799 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 2: and you probably don't know this yet. Once your girl 1800 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 2: fucks around on you, you will never look at her 1801 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 2: the same. You will never have her on the pedestal 1802 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,600 Speaker 2: that you had her on, no matter how hard you 1803 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 2: try and how liberal and progressive you think that you are. 1804 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 2: Once somebody who you considered your property goes and gives 1805 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,120 Speaker 2: that pussy away, you will never look at her the same. 1806 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,960 Speaker 2: And in little ways, little passive, aggressive ways, you will 1807 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,559 Speaker 2: punish her until you let her go. You will punish 1808 01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 2: her for the rest of her life, even when you think. 1809 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 5: That you're trying to yourself, even when you think. 1810 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 7: That you're over it. 1811 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 2: So please just do both of y'all a favor and 1812 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,679 Speaker 2: let her go. 1813 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 1: We're not even because I agree with every last word 1814 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 1: Damaris just said. Maybe there's a world because I've seen 1815 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,759 Speaker 1: people that actually have healthy relationships that did the body 1816 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 1: for a body thing and they did move on from it. 1817 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 4: That's sick. 1818 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:22,800 Speaker 5: I'm not here to. 1819 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 1: Judge them again, I'm too insecure for it. But she's 1820 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 1: still going like it's not even like y'all solved the 1821 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 1: first one. She's just gonna continue fucking and come home 1822 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, no, I'm still fucking because you 1823 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 1: fuck one person went time. But I don't even tell 1824 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 1: me a scenario where that could work out in the law. 1825 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:40,639 Speaker 2: I don't. 1826 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,639 Speaker 7: I don't think they're together. 1827 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 2: I think they broke up, and he's like they're still 1828 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 2: doing like the toxic back and forth like X thing, 1829 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,799 Speaker 2: like trying to get back together. But she's still fucking 1830 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 2: around and she's probably looking at him like, well, I 1831 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't be doing this if you wouldn't. 1832 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 7: Have fucked home, girl. 1833 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't think they're currently together. And she's cheating on 1834 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 2: him and coming home and saying, oh, I'm just fucking 1835 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 2: this person because you fucked around, and I don't think. 1836 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 1: That's maybe the first body she did that because he cheated. 1837 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Now she's fucking because she wants to. 1838 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, well she's fucking because she know that he ain't 1839 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:08,719 Speaker 5: going nowhere. 1840 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 6: That's thank you. That's the point that she didn't react 1841 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 6: away at all. 1842 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,599 Speaker 5: So now, oh shit, I could fuck, I could cheat 1843 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:16,720 Speaker 5: and he's still right here. 1844 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,800 Speaker 4: Boom. Yeah. 1845 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 3: Once women see and that's the thing that gods don't understand. 1846 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,639 Speaker 3: Once a woman knows that. Once she sees that, because 1847 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 3: women to test you, women to cheat on you, and 1848 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,680 Speaker 3: just see, like, all right, is it going to be 1849 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 3: completely over or is he going to be like fight 1850 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 3: to get me back? And then like I could still 1851 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,679 Speaker 3: have him, still have the other dude on the side. 1852 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 3: Once you show a woman that you ain't leaving and 1853 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 3: you willing to stay through cheating, you might as well 1854 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 3: cut your nuts off, put him in a Mason jaw, 1855 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 3: and leave him on top of the fridge. 1856 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I hate to be the gay Democrat here and like say, 1857 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: it's both sides, but we as men do the same thing. 1858 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 1: Do what once you realize your girl will stay after 1859 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 1: you put her through some bullshit. Typically, and I'm generally speaking, 1860 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 1: everyone's different. We don't think I should stop this now. 1861 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, she's staying through this all right? Cool? No, 1862 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, but I don't need to really change my ways. 1863 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 1: But that's a certain type of guy that's like a 1864 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,160 Speaker 1: piece of ship. Agree, Like if you're a piece of 1865 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 1: shit type of dude where you just have to piece 1866 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 1: of yah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1867 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,640 Speaker 5: No for sure. But those are pieces of ship we 1868 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 5: talking about. 1869 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,599 Speaker 3: But like, if you're honestly a good guy, like and 1870 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 3: you cheat on your girl, like and. 1871 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 5: It's like you feel like shit about you. 1872 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,759 Speaker 3: I've seen guys that have cheated on their girlfriends feel 1873 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,720 Speaker 3: like shit, like be depressed. They did it, yeah, like 1874 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 3: a pilot, and then never cheat again. 1875 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 5: I've seen it happen. 1876 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 4: I have to. 1877 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 3: But most guys, like you're right, those are the pieces 1878 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 3: of ship, which is more pieces of shit than not. 1879 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 3: Those are the guys that's like, yo, fuck it, Like 1880 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,760 Speaker 3: I got bitches on the side, like she ain't going away, 1881 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 3: she ain't even like yeah, but it's like, but that's 1882 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,680 Speaker 3: not a healthy relationship. I can always be arguing, you're 1883 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 3: always get it's gonna be it's just not healthy. Why 1884 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 3: do you why do you who wants to be not healthy? Like, 1885 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 3: how do you want to stay in something that's not healthy? 1886 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 3: I just don't understand that well because people get dependent 1887 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 3: and yeah, on what are you in every day situation that. 1888 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 6: Every night there's comfort and familiarity, Yeah, and whether or 1889 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 6: not that's healthy or not, like the same reason, Like 1890 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 6: people know I shouldn't eat McDonald's every day, but I 1891 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 6: know what I'm getting and I like it. I know 1892 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 6: it's bad for me. I smoke cigarettes because they're bad 1893 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,799 Speaker 6: for me, but I like it. I know what I'm getting. 1894 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,680 Speaker 6: Saying relationships, this person's not good for you. 1895 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 4: They're all I know. 1896 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 5: And a place to be. 1897 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 1: And you don't know what your life is like without 1898 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 1: this situation. It's a shitty one, but. 1899 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 9: Better than the unknown what life is like without the situation, 1900 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,599 Speaker 9: you wouldn't needn't have the situation your entire life. 1901 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: But that I mean that's also but learned with family too, 1902 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 1: Like that's we say that's super unhealthy when it comes 1903 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,479 Speaker 1: to relationships, But there's plenty of people that stay around 1904 01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 1: family members that have taught them this fucking misery. It's 1905 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 1: fine because it's family relationships is where we like, we 1906 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,760 Speaker 1: draw like, don't do that. That's unhealthy. Just leave them. 1907 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 1: But your family members that treat you like shit, come on, 1908 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,559 Speaker 1: it's fam gott to stay there. That's where you learn 1909 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 1: that behavior. You just learn to grow up in an 1910 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 1: environment that's miserable. But this is your situation, so it 1911 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,479 Speaker 1: is what you know. I just think I hones, especially 1912 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,680 Speaker 1: when you're nineteen twenty, twenty one, twenty two, the way 1913 01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 1: they're and this is probably their first serious relationship. Yeah, yeah, 1914 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,599 Speaker 1: so they think this is it. 1915 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 4: This is it. 1916 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 5: You can always tell who wasn't hugged enough. Well, you 1917 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 5: can tell. You can see it. You can see who 1918 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:34,880 Speaker 5: wasn't hugged. 1919 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 3: You can see who wasn't like then grow up around 1920 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 3: like just a loving, healthy environment. 1921 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:39,800 Speaker 5: You can see it. 1922 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 4: Oh, you know. 1923 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 6: The biggest tell to see who wasn't hugg enough or 1924 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 6: at least held enough. The shape of someone's head. So 1925 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 6: if maybe, if you if parents that lay their baby 1926 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 6: down and kind of leave their baby alone a lot, 1927 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 6: I don't want to call them absent parents, but just 1928 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 6: people that you know we're more like in a kind 1929 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,519 Speaker 6: of babies naturally, when they can't sit up, we know 1930 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:03,960 Speaker 6: with Themara they lay down. 1931 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:04,720 Speaker 4: And a lot of. 1932 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 6: Babies that were like a lot of like neglected babies 1933 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 6: and put that in quotes because there's saying whatever to 1934 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 6: argue argue with the comments have flat heads. 1935 01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 4: The back of their heads are flat. 1936 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 1: For the record, Tomorrow has the best shaped head I've 1937 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: ever seen of a baby. 1938 01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 6: Obviously, heads are meant to be round, but when you're 1939 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 6: a kid that the balls are the bones aren't fused, 1940 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 6: the heads are malleable, so if you let it over time, 1941 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,599 Speaker 6: it'll flatten out. A lot of babies that were neglected 1942 01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 6: have flat heads. 1943 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Get to tell well, black people, we take our kids 1944 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,599 Speaker 2: heads and mold them like we make them round over time. 1945 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 2: You gotta do that. 1946 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 7: You didn't grow up knowing that, Like. 1947 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 1: Cril, I was way too scared. 1948 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 7: Told well, she has a perfectly round head. 1949 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 1: Well I don't neglect her. 1950 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 4: They should have round heads. 1951 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 5: He loves it, he tells every day. 1952 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 2: Well, sometimes if it that depends on also how your 1953 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 2: birth experience was, because if you get stuck in the 1954 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,200 Speaker 2: birth canal, which happens sometimes, you can have kind of 1955 01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 2: like the cone head or if you have to you 1956 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 2: suction to get out, you can have the cone head. Like, 1957 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 2: all of that also depends on how you were birthed 1958 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 2: as well. 1959 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,800 Speaker 1: I get the theory you're trying to give you line. 1960 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 1: I feel like there's other red flags when you can 1961 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 1: tell someone wasn't loved. 1962 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,599 Speaker 6: There are I'm just saying that's a physical one. Oh yeah, 1963 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 6: most of them aren't, you know, physical? 1964 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah. 1965 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 2: I have so many friends who are uncomfortable with affection, 1966 01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Like they don't like their boyfriends kissing them, they don't 1967 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 2: like like, I have a friend who straight told me, like, 1968 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,439 Speaker 2: you are probably the person who has been the most 1969 01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 2: affectionate with me in my life, and being like, becoming 1970 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,759 Speaker 2: your friend was odd for me because you're so huggy 1971 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 2: and you're so kissy, and I didn't grow up with that, 1972 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 2: and I just always thought it was weird because my 1973 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:38,840 Speaker 2: parents hugged and kiss me all the time, so like, 1974 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,400 Speaker 2: growing up, I really ran into adults that we're not hugged. 1975 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty affectionate, and I grew up in a household 1976 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,639 Speaker 1: that had none of it, And I think that's why 1977 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,759 Speaker 1: I'm affectionate and touchy. 1978 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,680 Speaker 2: Phelly Are you touchy Philly with your friends? Are you 1979 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 2: touchy philly with your partners? 1980 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 1: My partners? Okay, so like I'm saying, like like PDA, 1981 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: like I'm what's the love language? Shit? Like physical touch 1982 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,120 Speaker 1: is one of yes, mine in that regard. 1983 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 7: But if we you hate to be touched by. 1984 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,160 Speaker 1: That could be from molestation. It's one of the two. 1985 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:09,120 Speaker 1: It's either I wasn't touched enough in my household or 1986 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 1: I was touched to her. 1987 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 7: Your hypersexuality probably came from the molestation. 1988 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, father, O'Malley really did a number one. 1989 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 2: You didn't and my hyper sexual at one point you 1990 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,719 Speaker 2: I think, oh, I definitely wasn't. Yeah, at one point, 1991 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,719 Speaker 2: I think we just want to therapy and like healing 1992 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. 1993 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 7: You realize that they were like. 1994 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 4: But that was the duce, not the yeah. 1995 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:28,639 Speaker 1: I mean you mixed saying trauma. 1996 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,599 Speaker 4: That's that's a lot you could have. 1997 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 5: Now you got it. Now you gotta love bomb. That's 1998 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,400 Speaker 5: called a love you know what? You know what, mom sa, 1999 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 5: trauma sounds like a love bombed mountain. 2000 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 2: It's actually really good. 2001 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 1: It's called a Yeah. 2002 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:46,360 Speaker 5: That is so fucked up. 2003 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,679 Speaker 1: Anyways, with that said, do we have another voicemailer. Should 2004 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 1: we get out here on that point? Break up with her? Bro? Yeah, 2005 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 1: that's all I got for. 2006 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 5: That was Franco. 2007 01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 4: Uh what was his name? Yes, Frank, Oh the poor guy. 2008 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, Frank, go lead that girl alone. 2009 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope you're in a real city. Go find 2010 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 6: someone else. 2011 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,759 Speaker 1: And Franco, don't think that relationships are like that where 2012 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 1: you have to get over disrespecting each other. And that's 2013 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 1: just what it takes to be in a relationship, because 2014 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 1: he's doing this at nineteen year nineteen to twenty two 2015 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 1: and this is his example of what a relationship is. 2016 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,639 Speaker 1: You have to get over constant disrespect. You're gonna think 2017 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 1: that that's how relationships go. So leave that girl, start 2018 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:27,799 Speaker 1: from scratch. 2019 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 8: Go. 2020 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 1: Healthy people don't always cheat on each other. You can 2021 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:32,320 Speaker 1: respect your partner. 2022 01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 6: Go find your Michelle Obama yeah, like. 2023 01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or just ask her like why aren't you 2024 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 1: more like King? 2025 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 2: And don't cheat on the next one because you can't 2026 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 2: handle that mother fucking get back, That's all I'm saying. 2027 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you think Michelle got get back after Obama 2028 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,680 Speaker 1: fucked that dude? 2029 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 4: Well, we saw it. Having to the chef. 2030 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,719 Speaker 1: You got a real person that died into this scenario. 2031 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 3: I was joker, but that's fucked up. It's fucked up 2032 01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:58,959 Speaker 3: that you you know, bring that rooming. 2033 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,200 Speaker 4: Back as I was a good call all that. 2034 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 5: Yes, I get it. 2035 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,679 Speaker 6: Anyway, Uh, let's continue on Patreon. 2036 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,360 Speaker 7: Head over to Patreon soon like act like right now. 2037 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,599 Speaker 3: Actually all right, we'll talk to your patreon. Uh, talk 2038 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,719 Speaker 3: to y'all soon, but next week we'll be back. 2039 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 5: We will. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger Patreon. We 2040 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 5: go Willian now