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Speaker 1: Hello, Taxon's welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Mark VanderMeer, John Harris with you as we get oh

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Speaker 2: so closer to training camp, in fact, less than forty

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Speaker 2: eight hours away, because Thursday morning we will be yeah,

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Speaker 2: less than forty eight hours Thursday morning, eight to ten

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Speaker 2: will be on right after Sean and Seth they go

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Speaker 2: six to eight. But we'll actually have the show while

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Speaker 2: practice commences, and we'll give you the description of every

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Speaker 2: blade of grass, what is happening on the field that

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Speaker 2: the Houston Methodist Training Center will be live out there.

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Speaker 2: We just saw our spot today. As a matter of fact, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: that was very nice to see where we will broadcasting

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Speaker 2: be broadcasting from once again fifty yard line under the

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Speaker 2: stands with the fans the.

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Speaker 1: Way I like it. Yeah, that's nice.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad we have been placed there. I love that

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Speaker 3: that perch. I loved our perch you know, over in

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Speaker 3: the old corner if you will, That was fine, but

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Speaker 3: there would be too many people standing in a way.

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Speaker 3: Now nobody is in the way. We can see everything happening.

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Speaker 3: We're right in the middle of the action, which is

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Speaker 3: very very cool. I did the show this morning with

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Speaker 3: Sean and oh he is completely excited about this, just

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Speaker 3: thrilled about the location. You'll hear them from six to eight,

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Speaker 3: us eight to ten, and then you'll hear in the

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Speaker 3: loop from ten until two and it will be blazing

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Speaker 3: hot for them.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. They'll they'll be okay about that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, being out there a little while ago, just

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Speaker 3: seeing the location and standing there again and going, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because last year was the first year we had been

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Speaker 3: in that.

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Speaker 1: Particular spot, yeah, and was like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: This is one of those situations where somebody has an idea,

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Speaker 2: and in this case it was Doug Vasik, our senior

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Speaker 2: vice president of Marketing and Communications Ticketing. So Doug said

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Speaker 2: to me in twenty twenty two, Hey, because we were

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Speaker 2: over where you described one and two looking at the

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Speaker 2: stands across the way and they were shaded. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: that was the Lovey Smith season, right, And Doug said,

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Speaker 2: and it was Doug's first season, He said, why do

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Speaker 2: you do radio from over there? You'll be covered, you'll

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Speaker 2: be with the fans, you get some engagement with your fans,

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Speaker 2: you get a little interaction going, some energy. And I thought, listen, Doug,

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Speaker 2: I've been around here a lot of time. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's this is not a great idea, but all right,

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Speaker 2: I'll consider it. And he's done a lot of things

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Speaker 2: around here, the uniforms. You know, he'll say that it's

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Speaker 2: a collaboration and yeah, but he's the driver. He's the

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Speaker 2: straw that stirs the drink. So anyway, we move over

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Speaker 2: there last year, fifty yard line underneath the stands, and

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's the best thing ever.

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Speaker 1: Don't you hate it when somebody has.

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Speaker 2: A great idea and you're like doubting it and then

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Speaker 2: it's out to be the great idea.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I gotta admit this now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like everybody has to admit it was a

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Speaker 3: great idea to draft c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud when they were all on the bright shout train.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, exactly right, Carolina. It turns out it

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Speaker 2: might have been a better idea for you to take

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Speaker 2: number seven.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe so maybe Josh McCown wanted it to happen

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Speaker 3: and he just couldn't get enough basketball games there. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, but the video that I saw the Panthers

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Speaker 3: this offseason, like, there are a lot of people making

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Speaker 3: that decision that we're not in football ops.

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Speaker 1: If you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, are you saying that she maybe missus

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Speaker 2: Timmy maybe?

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Speaker 1: And look, I don't really, I don't really have too

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Speaker 3: As long as it's adding to the conversation and not

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Speaker 3: creating disruption within the conversation.

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Speaker 1: If that makes me the whole thing that video.

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Speaker 2: But what I saw, I felt like she's just echoing

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Speaker 2: you know this is my opinion as well.

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Speaker 3: Not hey, stop right, do not don't draft him. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I didn't get a good feel.

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Speaker 1: No it's not. It wasn't. It wasn't that.

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Speaker 3: But it just I mean, look, you on the football team,

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Speaker 3: you know the football team. Your opinions matter, But you

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Speaker 3: hired those great like we have here. The McNair's have

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Speaker 3: hired incredible football people. Let them work, let them cook,

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Speaker 3: as they say, as the kids say, let them cook.

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Speaker 2: They do, they cook, They do that. All right, A

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Speaker 2: couple of things here. We put out a tweet. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to this in a moment. We put out

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Speaker 2: a tweet around fourth of July, and it was a

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Speaker 2: Texans knowledge tweet.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to this because we only have

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Speaker 2: a couple of offseason shows left, so it's time to

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Speaker 2: still have some offseason fun, if you will, before we

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Speaker 2: get to the meat of Thursday's camp commences. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, the buildings just filling up with players. I

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Speaker 2: see them everywhere and got them. The coaches are here.

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Speaker 1: West Lobby looked like you know, a human adult tent.

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Speaker 3: There were boxes and stuff all over the place with

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Speaker 3: the players to sign, and it was like trying to

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Speaker 1: Like man, it's like it's like an adult human fort.

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Speaker 1: People are hearing that, thinking how can I get some

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Speaker 1: of that sign met? Man?

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Speaker 2: This is we We do the signings in one fell

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Speaker 2: swoop with the players before they get to work. And

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Speaker 2: these are things we give away at various appearances and things.

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Speaker 1: Like that over out the year. It's at the year.

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Speaker 1: This is it.

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Speaker 2: We don't get any other opportunity these. Now there might

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Speaker 2: don't want to bother the players with that stuff because

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Speaker 2: if you did, and believe me, those of us who

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Speaker 2: can count on one hand the times I've bothered Andre

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Speaker 2: Johnson and JJ Watt to sign something.

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Speaker 1: One hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I asked once in like twenty ten for

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Speaker 2: I asked three four years in a row for something

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Speaker 2: for a charity or forever. That was a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't ask because I don't want to be that guy.

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Speaker 1: What does he want now? Believe me, people who work

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Speaker 1: here are not supposed to do that.

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Speaker 3: So the and for the most part they do, they

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Speaker 3: do not. They stay out of that mix. They do

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Speaker 3: not get they did not get involved in. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: go on the road, Oh, they get peppered. Andre Ware

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Speaker 3: gets peppered. Oh it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: They're coming up to Andre at the hotel. We were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were in Baltimore last year and we were

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Speaker 3: sign this? And it's amazing what they're pulling out of

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Speaker 3: their Duffel bags.

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Speaker 2: Stuff from laptime haircut Andre. You know, back in those

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Speaker 2: store show shoulder pads. Shoulder pad, Oh my gosh. You

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Speaker 2: know what he says about those. He never had a

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Speaker 2: shoulder injury. That's true, he did not, but it was

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Speaker 2: the embarrassingly large eighties shoulder pads.

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Speaker 1: But never had a shoulder injury. They all want them back.

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Speaker 2: Then, maybe they should go back to them, Johnny players

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Speaker 2: safety and all that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, technology is supposed to make shoulder pads better

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's done that. But by the way, tonight,

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Speaker 3: have you caught up on hard knocks yet? No?

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Speaker 2: The off season hard knocks. You know what I've been doing.

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Speaker 2: I've been binging the Rocky movies with my eleven year old. Well, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's acceptable, it's acceptable.

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Speaker 1: I will accept this.

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Speaker 2: I did it with the older kid about eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: I was with this kid now and it's a joy.

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Speaker 2: The Rocky movies are so good. I know their formula movies,

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Speaker 2: but they kind of invented the formula.

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Speaker 1: That is very true.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I fixed Rocky five because I've never

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Speaker 2: seen Rocky five, which is the worst one, right, and

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Speaker 2: it did the poorest I only saw it once, so

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Speaker 2: so I can handle. I've never seen it. I never

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Speaker 2: watched it. He's like, no, we have to watch it, dad.

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Speaker 2: I said, all right, let's watch Rocky five.

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Speaker 1: I'll give it a go.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Morrison, the late Tommy Morrison, all of that, yep,

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Speaker 2: you know what.

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Speaker 1: They needed to take a little bit more time with

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Speaker 1: the script. And here's another idea.

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Speaker 2: Don't hire Tommy Morrison because he's not a good actor.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not.

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Speaker 2: And you know how the Rocky movies end with the

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Speaker 2: last scene from the last movie, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well

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Speaker 2: it ends with the last scene from Rocky four. And

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Speaker 2: we all saw the kid in Rocky Foy's on the

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Speaker 1: If that.

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Speaker 2: Well, now Rocky comes back on the plane from the fight.

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Speaker 1: And the kid is like five years old.

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Speaker 2: Right, Wait a minute, I just when you watch him

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Speaker 2: in order, you really see this.

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Speaker 1: They should have just had a five years later, you

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes ago, this kid was eight years old and

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Speaker 2: now he's smoking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not good. You could be a young smoker anyway.

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Speaker 3: So I watched that, and have you watched what I

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Speaker 3: guess is Rocky six Rocky Balboa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rocky Balbo is actually pretty decent. I came out

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Speaker 2: in two thousands.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Ok.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a pretty decent movie. I have to

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Speaker 2: give them all all the credit in the world. Everybody

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Speaker 2: worked on those movies. There's some hokiness, but it's really

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Speaker 2: good messages and I really enjoy them.

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Speaker 1: So, now do you move on to Creed? All right?

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Speaker 1: So we already watched Creed one?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, And this led to him asking a

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Speaker 2: lot of questions. I said, well, let's go, and I

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Speaker 2: wanted to show him Rocky Ford. I actually showed him

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Speaker 2: the beginning of Rocky four, but he said, Dad, my

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Speaker 2: eleven year old, let's start with one, because you knows

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Speaker 2: the older kids started with one.

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Speaker 1: Good for him.

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Speaker 2: And one is there's some slower scenes, you know, but

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Speaker 2: he wanted to see them all.

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Speaker 1: Him and a Rocky and Adrian kissing and everything.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean snuggle cuddling, whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: But that's such a great scene when he walks back

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Speaker 3: in and he discusses with her that he can't beat Creed,

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Speaker 3: but he just wants to go fifteen rounds with Creed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he just wants to and it's like this self awareness

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Speaker 3: is such a cool moment. And then he gets in

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Speaker 3: fifteen rounds with this dude. And then of course you

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Speaker 2: A season, I'll grant you health to the quarterback, and

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Speaker 3: He's now in year seven, I think it's right. Yeah seven,

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Josh Allen the last few years, if you

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Speaker 2: I think you could argue he'd be as successful because

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Speaker 3: and Davis, et cetera, and how he would handle that.

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Speaker 3: I do think Jay Jones, Jay Jones, Jay Flowers with

437
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 3: the Ravens changes things for Lamar like that gives him this,

438
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Speaker 3: It gives him a definitive dynamic weapon in the passing

439
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Speaker 3: game to go with Mark Andrews, because none of the

440
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Speaker 3: obsh Rashat, Bateman, Nelson, Aguilar, those decent pieces, but they've

441
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Speaker 3: never none of them have really kind of catapulted themselves into,

442
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Speaker 3: you know, really being a factor for that team. It's

443
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Speaker 3: they Flowers and Mark Andrews. But what I put Lamar,

444
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Speaker 3: I would put Lamar head of Josh. I would go

445
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Speaker 3: Burrow to I'd go Lamar three, I go Josh four.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering about that. Yeah, that's the way I

447
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Speaker 3: would rank him. That's the way I would go. Now,

448
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 3: Josh is better than the other two. Guess what he'll

449
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Speaker 3: do with this team. He'll carry it to a different level.

450
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Speaker 3: And I'm curious to see how that goes.

451
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Speaker 2: So how about this Lamar Jackson last year eight hundred

452
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Speaker 2: and twenty one rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, my gosh.

454
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Speaker 3: Hait one hundred against us in the playoff game, didn't he?

455
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Speaker 3: I know that doesn't go into talked it out, but yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: Alan had.

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Speaker 2: Five twenty four rushing He actually cut down because he

458
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Speaker 2: went over seven sixty and twenty one and twenty two.

459
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Speaker 2: He had to cut down. He knew it. But you

460
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Speaker 2: know what, back half of the year, if you look

461
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Speaker 2: at the game to game and I don't I don't

462
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Speaker 2: have time to do that right now. I think he

463
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Speaker 2: upped his rushing total in those games. He's said, look, yeah,

464
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Speaker 2: I got to put you out my back here and

465
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Speaker 2: we got to go a lot of analysts make that

466
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Speaker 2: point that when he runs the ball, you don't want

467
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Speaker 2: him running it too much, but he needs to run

468
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Speaker 2: it a bit.

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Speaker 3: It kind of gets him into the game, and for

470
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Speaker 3: Joshua does eventually that's gonna start. I think I think

471
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Speaker 3: that's gonna start wearing him down. All right, here's it. Okay,

472
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Speaker 3: it's interesting. Let's go through this with josh uh nine

473
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Speaker 3: for these are the last two for six games. Okay,

474
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Speaker 3: last six games. Nine for eighty one. Is that two touchdowns? Yeah,

475
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Speaker 3: nine for eighty one two touchdowns, ten for thirty two

476
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Speaker 3: in a touchdown, eight for twenty four in a touchdown,

477
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Speaker 3: five for fifteen and two touchdowns, eleven for forty four

478
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Speaker 3: and two touchdowns, fifteen for sixty seves.

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Speaker 1: A lot of carries. Yeah, that's a lot of carry,

480
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Speaker 1: a lot of carries. It's a ton.

481
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Speaker 3: I mean the last game against Miami when they had

482
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Speaker 3: to win, they had to win, what happened?

483
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Speaker 1: Fifteen for sixty sad? What would I say? Fifteen for

484
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Speaker 1: sixty seven.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're looking very low yard per carry total.

486
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Speaker 2: But he knows that he's just got to get it done.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah. He also how about this good god, he.

488
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Speaker 3: Was thirty of thirty eight throwing football for that game,

489
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Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty nine yards, two touchdowns in the

490
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Speaker 3: Dolphin game and the Dolphins you're saying he did it

491
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Speaker 3: all by himself. He did it all by himself, except

492
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Speaker 3: for that Deontay Hardy touchdown that he ran in thirty

493
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Speaker 3: of thirty eight for three to fifty nine, two touchdowns.

494
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Speaker 3: He did throw two picks, fifteen carries for sixty seven

495
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Speaker 3: yards fifty three touches, so maybe, I mean he counted

496
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Speaker 3: for good gosh, that's incredible that he just put it

497
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Speaker 3: on his shoulders.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen of sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: All right, Wow, Jackson's carries, let's say he averaged like

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Speaker 2: down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go from week.

502
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Speaker 2: Ten on eight, nine, eleven, eleven, twelve, seven six those

503
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: last two appearances because they didn't play in week seventeen.

504
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Speaker 2: Doesn't carry the ball that much, yep. And he gets

505
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Speaker 2: more yards per carry than Josh Allen. That's really that's

506
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Speaker 2: an eye opening. That's that's amazing. And you're right, they're

507
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Speaker 2: living on borrowed time. Eventually he's gonna pay the price.

508
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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I read those numbers.

509
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Speaker 3: Carries nine, ten, eight, five, eleven, fifteen he had three

510
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Speaker 3: to last five games, fifteen he had ten plus.

511
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Speaker 1: Carries, you know, and just you can't there are backs

512
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Speaker 1: who would love to have that amount of carries. And

513
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Speaker 1: what shot? So we get to January, what does he do?

514
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Speaker 3: First game against Pittsburgh eight for seventy four against the

515
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Speaker 3: Chiefs twelve for seventy two. Yeah, that's gonna that's gonna

516
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Speaker 3: take a freaking toll, is so all right?

517
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Speaker 2: So man, continuing with the quarterback conversation, the ESPN eighty

518
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Speaker 2: person execs, coaches, GMS, whatever, surveyed Matthew Stafford number five.

519
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Speaker 2: So it's Mahomes, Burrow, Allan, Lamar Jackson, then Matthew Stafford

520
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Speaker 2: at number five.

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Speaker 1: Hey, he's got a super Bowl. He's thirty six years old.

522
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about if I was drafting for one

523
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Speaker 2: season whether I'd take him right down. But they have

524
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Speaker 2: spoken and they like Matthew Stafford. I always thought Matthew Stafford.

525
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Speaker 2: I hate to use the word overrated, but I think

526
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Speaker 2: in the truest sense, I think we rate him.

527
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Speaker 1: We read.

528
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's overrated, but he's rated too high.

529
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Speaker 2: How about that for twisting it around? Does that work

530
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Speaker 2: for everybody?

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Speaker 1: Johnny?

532
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Speaker 2: When this era is over and we talk about the

533
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Speaker 2: great quarterbacks, I think Stafford's name is not going to

534
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Speaker 2: get brought up.

535
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Speaker 1: It's a great point. It's not.

536
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of those left in the dust

537
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Speaker 2: kind of names. And I know he's put up huge numbers,

538
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Speaker 2: He's won a Super Bowl.

539
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Speaker 1: I got it.

540
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Speaker 2: But my big complain about him in Detroit was that

541
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: he had talent and he only had four winning seasons there.

542
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Speaker 2: I've said that numerous times, so we get debate Stafford

543
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: for a long time. Look, he's I'm not saying he sucks.

544
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Speaker 2: He's a really good quarterback. I don't think he's one

545
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Speaker 2: of the elite quarterbacks of his generation.

546
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Speaker 3: So an interesting way of putting it, you know, I

547
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Speaker 3: think was heading down this track as well. As much

548
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Speaker 3: as I liked him, I hated facing him, but I

549
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: liked him, was Andrew Luck. I feel like Andrew was

550
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: going down this particular path too. Really yeah, like like

551
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 3: he was a really really good quarterback. I would have

552
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: much rather faced Stafford than I would Andrew Luck. But

553
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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like they were going down that

554
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Speaker 3: path of really super talented guys but just not getting

555
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Speaker 3: a lot of results, not getting a ton of results,

556
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Speaker 3: And that really was kind of to me. It was

557
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Speaker 3: where Andrew Luck was.

558
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: I think, if Luck stays healthy, he's at another level

559
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Speaker 2: than this.

560
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Speaker 1: I really do believe. Do you think he would have

561
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Speaker 1: been back to a Stafford in twenty eighteen when he's able

562
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Speaker 1: to stay healthy. What do they do?

563
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Speaker 2: They don't win the division, but they come in here

564
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Speaker 2: win a playoff game, and you know that's a playoff

565
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: win nice. How many of those does Stafford have in

566
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: his career? You know, not as many as you would like.

567
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Speaker 2: So there's that when Andrew.

568
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Speaker 3: Luck Healthy have done with the Rams in twenty twenty one, Yeah, probably,

569
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Speaker 3: I just I'm with you, though, I think Stafford Stafford

570
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: will get get overlook. He falls into the he falls

571
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: into the gap in some sense before you know, after Roethlisberger,

572
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: Brady Manning, before Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, Josh, there's kind of

573
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Speaker 3: this reason get ahead of him, breeze ahead of hit

574
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: that era, and then there's kind of this gap of

575
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: weather Stafford and for a long time they're really so

576
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Speaker 3: he's kind of I don't know, he kind of falls

577
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Speaker 3: in that gap.

578
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I put him in that class.

579
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Speaker 2: But he's in the right spot. Fifth, sixth, he's right there.

580
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: That's probably right. He'll make your team better. I don't

581
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: put a good team. He can win with it. I

582
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: don't put him in front of our guy, no, because

583
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 2: certainly don't. All right, so our guy is seventh. Just

584
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: to get to the headline here finally half hour into

585
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Speaker 2: the show, Yeah, he's seventh. Sixth is justin Herbert. I

586
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: heard you guys, going off about this this morning.

587
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 3: It's not Listen, I understand, I understand. You look at

588
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: Herbert and you go, wow, it's easy to do. You

589
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: watch him on film. I remember the throw he made

590
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: against the Giants, and I think it was his second

591
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Speaker 3: year at twenty twenty one, and he throw he kind

592
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Speaker 3: of rolls right, it's kind of a half roll, and

593
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: he throws one sixty five yards back to the other hash.

594
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Speaker 1: On a dime, and you go, who can do that?

595
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: But then you get in it.

596
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Speaker 3: You play in a game against him, like we played

597
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Speaker 3: him in what twenty two, twenty one, twenty two?

598
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Speaker 1: I can't remember both, right, was it both? Yeah? Yes,

599
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: well we didn't have a great team. We should have

600
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Speaker 1: never been in that ballgame.

601
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But they made excuse after excuse for that Christmas

602
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: performance in twenty one exactly when he lost that college

603
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: Texans that's right, right, And then everybody was hurt from

604
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: the Texans there covid epidemic, and the Chargers come in here.

605
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: I guess they thought, all right, we're just gonna beat

606
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: it was Buster Douglas syndrome or whatever. But the Texans

607
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 2: knocked him out and Russ did Rex berkehead run for

608
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Speaker 2: like a buf fifty.

609
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Speaker 1: Fifty in that game, a buck fifty. No, that's not on.

610
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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, but it's not. But you gotta win the

611
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: heat game. He didn't make any place to win that game.

612
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, he made a few that a

613
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Speaker 3: fourth down, a little play action passed to Eckler out

614
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: in a flat that was a killer. But I just

615
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: as much as I watched Herbert throw the ball and

616
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Speaker 3: it's so beautiful, he didn't scare me from a winning

617
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: perspective like it didn't. It didn't scare me now. Joe

618
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Burrow's got the ball in his hands. I was terrified

619
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Speaker 3: at the end of that game against the Bengals. Terrified

620
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: because I just know he's gonna make one clutch, one

621
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Speaker 3: clutch play after another. We know that about Mahomes. Stafford's

622
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: got that club in his bag too. But and maybe

623
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Speaker 3: it's the year that we faced him in twenty one,

624
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Speaker 3: we just weren't very good.

625
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Speaker 2: It's a fine line, Johnny. We talk about the fine

626
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: line all the time. Last year was a fine line

627
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: year because you won all those close games. They dropped

628
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: a big one. Not saying you couldn't have won that

629
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: game because Straud was going to get the ball. The

630
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: same thing with the Colts. They drop a big pass

631
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: or it was a bad throat, whatever, they didn't make

632
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: the play, and not that they would have automatically won

633
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: that game because maybe this time on the clock and

634
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: maybe the Colts don't score anyway, fine line. Stroud seventh

635
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: on this list, and then eighth is Aaron Rodgers, ninth

636
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: is Jared Goff, and Dak Prescott his tenth.

637
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Speaker 1: I mean you look at the drop off after that.

638
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Boy brock Purty getting no respect, none, none, No, it's crazy.

639
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: Did you watch Receiver by the Way on Netflix? No yet,

640
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I came out of there. I don't know.

641
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: I walked out of there watching that because it's Kittle

642
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: and Deebo are both miked up for the whole thing,

643
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: and you can see with Purdy there's there's a lot

644
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: of respect for him and what he in, what he does,

645
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of respect should be And that's

646
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Speaker 3: the way I came out of there, like, man, they

647
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: respect him. That is not just a well he was

648
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: hand in a position and no, they respect him. And

649
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: I think he is a real quiet leader for them.

650
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: But they really respect having him there, I'm curious to

651
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: see year three and all is Brandon you mess is

652
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Speaker 3: popped up again.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to see Golf on that list at number

655
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Speaker 3: nine because I think Jared doesn't get enough credit for

656
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Speaker 3: what he does. However, I don't want Jared Goff to

657
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Speaker 3: come in here and beat us, that's for sure. But

658
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Speaker 3: if our defense is playing at its top level, I

659
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Speaker 3: don't know that Jared scares me a ton.

660
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Speaker 2: But you know what Perty suffers from height and where

661
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: you were drafted discrimination. That's exactly because Herbert and Trevor

662
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: Lawrence are from Central Casting and we're drafted high. Sammy

663
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: Herbert was drafted close enough, right, and oh my gosh,

664
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Speaker 2: And when you show anything, it's just, oh yeah, they're

665
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: living up to that potential.

666
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Speaker 1: With Perty, if he was drafted fifth.

667
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Speaker 2: We'd be saying, oh, this is one of the best

668
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league. He might be the best behind Mahomes.

669
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Speaker 2: He would get that kind of talk. Look at the numbers,

670
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: look at the teams excess. I'm not saying he's that

671
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: good necessary even I even I'm hesitating because is he

672
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: really that good? Because he was mister irrelevant. Ah huh,

673
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: but apparently he's pretty damn good.

674
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: He's good. Let's get to this.

675
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: Texans admin put out a tweet and we got to

676
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: get to it. It is fun stuff. It came out

677
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: holiday weekend. We're going to talk about it next year

678
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: on Texans Radio. Back to it here on Texans Radio.

679
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: Mark Vandermain and John Harris with you. Looking forward to

680
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: seeing everybody at training camp. Actually you hearing us to

681
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: start it out because fans aren't out there till Tuesday.

682
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: But we'll be with you in an audio way on

683
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Speaker 2: Thursday eight to ten am, following Seth and Sean and

684
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: then in the loop after us. And it's gonna be

685
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: a real fun time covering the Houston Texans getting ready

686
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty four campaign Hall of Fame game

687
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: two weeks from Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, it's here.

689
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: On July fifth, the Texans People social media people admin

690
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Speaker 2: as we call it now put out a tweet and

691
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: it's it's a graphic and it says the real ones

692
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: no now. It's a play on something that was apparently viral,

693
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: although I never picked up on it. Picture of an

694
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: iceberg and above the iceberg is the stuff that everybody

695
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: knows about your team right and below the surface of

696
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Speaker 2: the water. So it's above the surface of the water.

697
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Is the stuff everybody knows below the surface. I will

698
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: do my best to describe this in an audio way.

699
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: It gets deeper and deeper into the knowledge base where

700
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: the deepest part of the iceberg is only the real

701
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: ones know, right, So way above, okay, way above the iceberg.

702
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: In the sky, stuff everybody knows and it just has

703
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: names and names of things or situations. JJ Watt, Brian Cushing,

704
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: Andre Johnson, Demiko Ryans. Everybody knows that, right, whether you're

705
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: a casual Texans fan, die hard, whatever, but especially the

706
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: casual fans know all of that stuff. Right then it

707
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: gets a little bit more knowledge based. We're still above

708
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Speaker 2: the surface of the water beating the Browns. Yes, did

709
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: that in the playoffs. Watt's playoff pick six, iconic moment.

710
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: That's common knowledge for everybody. Turned down for Watt in

711
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. There's a lot of wat here and dre'sys

712
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: fight with Finnigan. So his fight with Courtland Finigan above

713
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: the surface of the water.

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Speaker 1: You good with this so far? Yeah, I'm good with that. Okay, Yeah,

715
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm good with that.

716
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: So I'm reading this graphic here that was put out

717
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Speaker 2: by the Houston Texans Twitter account, and I go below

718
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Speaker 2: the surface of the water, and the most known things,

719
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: well known things that they list here. The next level

720
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Speaker 2: beating the Bengals, all right, that was in the playoffs?

721
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Speaker 1: Yeah twice? Rosen Coopter? Oh God, is rosen Copter?

722
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: Do the cash fans or just a little bit more

723
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Speaker 2: knowledgeable than the casual fans?

724
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Speaker 1: No, rosen Copter. I probably put that a little bit

725
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: further down the list. I would too, I put it

726
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Speaker 1: a little bit further down the list. How about this

727
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: nineteen ten? Do the casual fans? I don't think so anymore.

728
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of fans have been picked

729
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: up since nineteen ten.

730
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Speaker 1: They remember the win, they remember and they know about

731
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Speaker 1: the win. They don't remember the score.

732
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: The score the battle cry of nineteen ten was around

733
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: for several years after that occurred. Was But I don't

734
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: hear it as much lately. Uh, Matt Shop.

735
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Speaker 1: It's just a matchup. I think everybody knows matchup. Yeah,

736
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Speaker 1: namast the Namas day.

737
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Speaker 2: Uh, that to me is a little more You got

738
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: to have some more knowledge than right, underneath the surface

739
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: of the water on this iceberg graphic.

740
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Speaker 1: If you put Arian Foster in Namas Day.

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Arian Foster, Yeah, that's you might even go

742
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: above above the line at that point. How about this

743
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: Bulls o Parade? I think that should be higher. I

744
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: think that should be Yeah. Most people know Bulls on

745
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: parade to follow the Houston Texans. They identify with that

746
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: Ninja assassin, and I don't think so. I think you

747
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: gotta have a little more knowledge to know Ninja says

748
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: that common as you think now the listeners to this show,

749
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: they know everything, right, yeah, yeah, okay, Case Keenum, I

750
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: think that could go higher up as well, because Case

751
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: is relevant right now.

752
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: He's still on the team.

753
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: He just won a huge game for you last year,

754
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: and he's been around for a long time at the

755
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: same time, so a little bit of everything.

756
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: He's you stony and as people think of him. I

757
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: know he went he's from Abilene, I get all that.

758
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: But having played the University of Houston and then playing

759
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: for US, I think Case could probably go up there

760
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: a little bit higher.

761
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: TJ. Yates, where does that stand? What's probably about right? Yeah?

762
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, middle of the pack Texans knowledge Reggie or Vince

763
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: oh Man.

764
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: All right, So to me, this is a little bit deeper.

765
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Speaker 3: For those people that were that were in Houston at

766
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Speaker 3: that time, it might be a little bit higher.

767
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Speaker 1: But I think as an overall fan base it is

768
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: probably a little bit lower. Yeah, because new members enter

769
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: the fan base.

770
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 2: If I say read your Evince to my kid, who's

771
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: eighteen years old, he'll know because he knows right right.

772
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: But even he, because he was born that year, even

773
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: he would have a hard time.

774
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Describing how big it was.

775
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: People have to understand that was as huge a sports

776
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: talk radio topic.

777
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: As you can have that talk going.

778
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: I mean, that was it every day I was doing

779
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: the show with Rich Lord back then. Every day Vince

780
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: and Reggie and Reggie and Vince and Vince and Raggie Evince.

781
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: No one was talking about Mario until the night drafted,

782
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: until the night freaking before.

783
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

784
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: All right, let's go a little deeper down. We're getting

785
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: into the depths of Texans knowledge. These are deep album cuts.

786
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: Chris Myers, It just says, Chris Myers, I love this.

787
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: The Billy Miller touchdown stretch is that you know, that's

788
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: an iconic photo. It's an iconic photo a few feet

789
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: away from me.

790
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: I have that framed. Yeah, yeah, right now.

791
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's a great photo, and it's it's such

792
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: a symbolic moment, the first touchdown. I always loved listen

793
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: to your calling that them scoring, the Texas scoring for

794
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: the first time, and and then just the image of

795
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: it wasn't you know, an easy walking It was Billy.

796
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: Having to strain and put it over the line. But

797
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's probably placed about right. It's

798
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: probably placed about right.

799
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: And e kg of me during that moment because I

800
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: was so hype, Johnny. That was the first drive, the

801
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: third player, second play, second third place, the third play

802
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: because passior Ferris. I think it was the third play,

803
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: pass affairs to Corey Bradford, right right right, that was

804
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: the first planned off one yard maybe, and then I

805
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 2: think it's play three.

806
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: I think it's play three. That's what I remembered.

807
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: And Carr, you know, throwing over the middle, and I

808
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: just thought, here it is. You knew that at some

809
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: point the first touchdown of the history of the franchise

810
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: is going to occur, and I'm thinking this has got

811
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: to be a good call, right, this has got be

812
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: right absolutely, And there was no way I was going

813
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: to say rock and roll for the first touchdown in

814
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: team history. No way, it was going to be all

815
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: clean anyway. So Billy Miller touchdown stretch on the nose

816
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: with Sean Cody.

817
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: That's pretty deep. That's deep one. That's now.

818
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: It's a great series, tremendous series. I've talked to Drew

819
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: many many years about this. It's it's probably about right.

820
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: That's probably about right. Yeah, it's pretty deep.

821
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: It's like three quarters of the way deep in Texans knowledge.

822
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: And we're going over this tweet that the Texans admin

823
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: put out July fourth weekend, all right.

824
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: Zone blocking scheme. That's another one. I love that.

825
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: So you got to have some football knowledge. I mean,

826
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: Gary Koobiac zone blocking scheme. Alex Kims becomes a coach here,

827
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: the guys talked about it a ton, certain kinds alignment.

828
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: We got it from Denver. I mean, that was a

829
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: whole theme of that era. Yeah, very much. So I

830
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: love this. That works. They did a great job with this.

831
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Speaker 1: I think.

832
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 2: The next next row, all right, so the next line,

833
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: let's go to it. This is I don't know, this

834
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: is in the eighty fifth percentile eighty eighty fifth percentile

835
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: Texans knowledge. All right, so you're knowledgeable Kylie Wong. You're

836
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: knowledgeable if you know Kylie Wong, Yeah, very much. Who

837
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: still has his business? I think in bel Air the

838
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: gym love Kylie, absolutely love him.

839
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips. I think Wade could be a little higher.

840
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Row was a little higher. I think, yeah, I think

841
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: he goes.

842
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: I think you probably put Wayde Romeo together, but they

843
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: go up, and they go up a notch.

844
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: I think Wade even higher than Romeo is as great

845
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: a job as Romeo did.

846
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Here. Wade is so relevant.

847
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: Just appeared in a championship game in the UFL as

848
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: a head coach. Yeah, and been around since the seventies

849
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: working for Bomb, played at UH.

850
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

851
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: I think Wade is more well known than that. How

852
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: about this one in the snow at Green Bay in

853
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: eight and twenty sixteen. Now I got to make a

854
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: correction here it was cold and O eight. It was

855
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: cold and O eight. Now there might have been snow

856
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: on the sideline or on the ground. There was, but

857
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: you weren't in the snow. That's all right, I was

858
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen.

859
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: You was a wet Snow you were and at the

860
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: end of it, I was on my feet and hands

861
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: were just soaked.

862
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean your.

863
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: Hands, get your raisins, you know, that's what my hands

864
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: felt like.

865
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: They're just all cracking, like, oh, wake it up. That

866
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: morning in Green Bay thinking this.

867
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: Is it, baby, we get so in green I would

868
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 3: do it all over again, and I didn't want to lose.

869
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: I would do it all over again.

870
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: December game with Snow in Green Bay is as romantic

871
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 3: as it gets in the league.

872
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: Beautiful all right, Another eighty fifth percentile one logo unveiling

873
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: the first one. The first logo unveiling. Bob McNairy was

874
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: watching the video.

875
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but were you there? Were you aware?

876
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: How old school a Ustonian are you. That's a good one.

877
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Wade Smith. I think Wade should be higher. I think

878
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: Wade with Chris Myers, Yeah, Wade, Yes, I mean Chris.

879
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: I think Wade is more well known than Chris Myers.

880
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 3: Right now, you could have stuck Wade in that category

881
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: Chris Myers and zone blocking scheme.

882
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: It would have fit that much better.

883
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: That would have been fun because they're both offensive linemen.

884
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: But Wade has done a lot of airtime on Sports

885
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: Radio six ' ten. We've had about a lot of

886
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: Texans shows. Wade is and Myers doesn't live here anymore.

887
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: I think Myers could be a really great media star

888
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: here as well, but he doesn't live here anymore. He

889
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: lives in the Philadelphia area. Wade is better known, I

890
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: believe than Chris Myers. All right, quick break here, then

891
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: we're going to get back to the rest of it.

892
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: Get to the ninety fifth percentile, the one hundredth percentile,

893
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: the most knowledgeable Texans fans, Well, they.

894
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: Know this stuff. Stay tuned. It's Texans All Access.

895
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: As promised, we continue with that graphic that the Social

896
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: people put out.

897
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: Social People for Us put out July fourth.

898
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: Weekend with the various levels of Texans knowledge, and I'm

899
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: going to go buy percentile. So let's get to ninety

900
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: fifth percentile type of stuff here. Snoop Dogg after the

901
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen went at the Chargers.

902
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I love this because for people that don't know so,

903
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg was there at our game against the Chargers

904
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: is week three. We go out to LA We had

905
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 3: just beaten the Jaguars by inches on a two point stop.

906
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: So he got to the Chargers. The Chargers had been

907
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: fantastic the year before. It was a big game. We're

908
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: playing in their little bandbox of a soccer stadium, and

909
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg is there, and so because we won, Snoop

910
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: Dogg came into our locker room. So I'm outside interviewing

911
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: Jordan Akins as our player of the game. Two touchdowns again,

912
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: we're right, we're just outside the locker room. And so

913
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm in the midst of interviewing Jordan's and I didn't

914
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: hear it at the time. I had to go back

915
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: and listen to my interview. All of a sudden, I hear, hey, baby,

916
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 3: there was some good bleep.

917
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: Oh geez.

918
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg talking to Akins interrupted the interview like DAPs

919
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: him up.

920
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: He DAPs me up.

921
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, man, I guess Snoop Dogg interview,

922
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: you know, break it into the interview with that. But

923
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that. He said a bad word. So

924
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: that guy played on the air. Sorry, but yeah, that's

925
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: a funny. That's a fun one Stoop Dug in the

926
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: locker room.

927
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: This is another ninety fifth percentile two kickoff return touchdowns

928
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: in one game for Andre Davis. And what a perfect

929
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: seg because Andre Davis is back.

930
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: How about that working for the team in player development.

931
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: And this is one of the most beloved Texans to me,

932
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: and I think he should be to the fans that

933
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: he did have two touchdowns kickoff returns for touchdowns in

934
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: a game in the seven finale to help the Texans

935
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: get the five hundred for the first time, which believed

936
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: me at the time, was a huge deal.

937
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: Johnny.

938
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: How many people in the league have recorded multiple recorded,

939
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: multiple kickoff returns for touchdowns.

940
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Eleven.

941
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: That's it, eleven. One of the less of that happening.

942
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: Only one Hall of famers, Devin Hester did it. And

943
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: I remember that game at the end to get them

944
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: to eight and eight. That was such a cool, such

945
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 3: a cool moment. Andre Davis, like Virginia Tech, Andre Davis

946
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: two kickoffs like man, he did There's no what that

947
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: was incredible. That was incredible after news and I can't

948
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: wait to meet Andre Davis and have him part of

949
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 3: You're Gonna Lash.

950
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: It's very very cool. Here's another one.

951
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the There are a couple

952
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: of others, but let's go to the one hundred percentile.

953
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: You are tip top. According to this tweet by the

954
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Texans Admin, laser pointers in Mexico City game?

955
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Is that that deep? I guess it is. You could

956
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: say it.

957
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 2: I guess rock Osweiler dealing with a laser in his eye.

958
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. In Mexico City, we had no

959
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: we had no internet.

960
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: Capabilities at all, right, so we had no idea about

961
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 3: the whole laser pointer thing.

962
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't until I got on the bus,

963
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: did I know. I don't know. I remember seeing the light,

964
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: but I didn't think much of it.

965
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: I didn't think much of it until later on we

966
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: find out, Oh that's what's Yeah, So laser pointers in

967
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: Mexico City game, right in Brock's eyes.

968
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Here's the final one.

969
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: Coughing because of the smoke from fireworks in week one

970
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: of two thousand and two. Yes, there was smoke, Yes,

971
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: in the building. The roof closed, smoky, you're coughing. It's flowers,

972
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: which is nice and nowhere for the smoke to go.

973
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: So that was a bit of a problem.

974
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: It definitely was a problem with all of that there.

975
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: For sure.

976
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: You want to hear some comments, yes, okay, because I

977
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: think there are some that didn't make this list. There

978
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: was one in particular that I saw on this list

979
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: that didn't pop up, and it is the letter Jackets.

980
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: Yes, Letterman jack.

981
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: That's a that's a very negative memory. But you got

982
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: to know your text and stuff to know to do.

983
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of below the so it's sixty

984
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: fifth percentile.

985
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: I'll put it there.

986
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you this real fast on

987
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: the let's use no term on the House of Pain scale.

988
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's a whole other show, but it really

989
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: is ranked the pain.

990
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because to me, Rosencopter is up near the top.

991
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: That's nine plus because it's the Colts and how it is.

992
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you wanted like a position there. It

993
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: ranks on a power ranking.

994
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying, like how much pain rosen Coopter versus

995
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: Letterman Jackets. Well, Letterman Jackets was like this steady six

996
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: all the way.

997
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: The New England loss was painful. That was at least

998
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: a nine to nine point five. I'll give you this.

999
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: Rosen Copter is a ten in terms of level of pain.

1000
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: Vince Young thirty nine yard touchdown running overtime is a

1001
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: ten in terms of level of pain. Colts playoff victory

1002
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: here a ten. Those three are at that level. Now

1003
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: I could rank them individually to say which was the

1004
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: most painful of those three, and there are others. But

1005
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure Kallan Hannah love it when I'm talking about this.

1006
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: Fair when you stop ranking painful games?

1007
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: Geez, Okay, here's another. Here's some more comments. Okay, Vince

1008
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: will fork overalls.

1009
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: See that's beautiful. That's as there.

1010
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: Here's another football one making the playoffs in twenty fifteen

1011
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: after a one in four start.

1012
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were one in four that we went to

1013
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Jacksonville got to two and four.

1014
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: I know we were two and five because we got

1015
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: the Miami victory over the Titans to get the three

1016
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: and five bad Titans team and then the win at

1017
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: Cincinnati eight. No, how about this beating Cincinnati Monday night football?

1018
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you.

1019
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: And I for you and I these are these are

1020
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: top moments in the history of the franchise, very much, so,

1021
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: very much.

1022
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: So here's one I'll give you when this is not

1023
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: in the comments, but I came up with one. Okay,

1024
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: what would be the percentile of people that would know

1025
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: what Kansas City three mints?

1026
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh that you have to be really knowledge. That's got

1027
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: to be in that.

1028
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: That's gotta be ninety to one hundred, right, Yes, I

1029
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: think you're at least ninety if Yeah, you said the

1030
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: Kansas City three.

1031
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: You gotta know what that is.

1032
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Here's another one. This is This is

1033
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: a good one. This is from Ryan at Salty Grandpa.

1034
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: What about pay me Rick?

1035
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: Pay me Rick?

1036
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: Is Dante Robinson? Yeah, it Isntey Robinson. That's you know,

1037
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 3: nine after the jet get that's probably in the eighty

1038
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: to ninety percentile. Oh, yeah, that's up there.

1039
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: That's sure. Yeah, that's a that's a good one for sure. Yeah.

1040
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: Some people put somebody wrote, Dave Ragon, listen, this is

1041
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: our area.

1042
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: I love all this stuff. Yeah.

1043
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted where does Tom Savage fit into all this?

1044
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: In multiple ways he fits.

1045
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: In, but yeah, a lot of them.

1046
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: Uh, there's a lot of talk about the laser pointers.

1047
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Laser pointers killed me.

1048
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: To this day, those lasers in the game at Mexico

1049
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: City City still have me fuming just thinking about it.

1050
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: Oh.

1051
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted win over the Steelers twenty four to six

1052
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: with forty seven yards of total offense.

1053
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you win a game by eighteen points and a

1054
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 3: half six yards.

1055
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Three defensive touchdowns. All right, that's it for

1056
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: the show. Tomorrow our training camp EVE program don't miss it.

1057
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: Area forty five coming up next times for listening, Go Texans,