1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Is Biden's age finally going to be an issue for 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: the average voter. I'm not talking about those that pay 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: attention all the time. I'm talking about those that pay 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: attention right before election day. MSNBC now showing signs of 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: actually worrying about the president's fall at the Air Force Academy. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: It was clearly a fall that he didn't well. Not 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: only did not see it coming, but it took him 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: a little bit to get up. Three different people had 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: to help him up. Even though the headlines were saying 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: yesterday by Reuters he recovered quickly. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: No he didn't. 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: They also lied and said he got to a knee, 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: one knee by himself. No he didn't. If you watch 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: the video, he didn't. There's also another interesting issue, and 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: that as the bottom of the president's shoes. Clearly they're 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: customed with lots of rubber and with some offsets in them. 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Many people have been commenting on that. Now in life, yes, 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: everyone is going to age, everyone's going. 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: To lose their step. People do fall. 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: President's fall, but this president is falling more than any 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: other president we've ever seen publicly in history. I don't 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: like it, by the way, when a president falls down, 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: And I'm being clear about this. From a political standpoint, 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: I think it shows weakness. I think it's a way 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: for world leaders to mock our president. It doesn't help 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: us with our adversaries and people like ISIS or al Qaida, 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: or Russia or China. It doesn't make America look strong. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: I worry about a president that falls going upstairs three times. 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: I worry about a president that falls standing still on 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: a bike. I worry about a president that falls coming 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: off of stage. I worry about a president that falls 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: at the Air Force Academy when we're supposed to be 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: talking about how important it is for our military, our 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Air force to be ready to deal with China or 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Russia or anyone else. This goes back to what I've 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: said for a long time. I never root for a president, 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: regardless of party, to fail on national defense issues, on 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: national security issues, on foreign affairs issues that affected the 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: United States of America. Whether it's Barack Obama, Joe Biden, 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, George Bush, I don't care how Jimmy Carter. 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: You look at Jimmy Carter, and this will probably make 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: my point more crystal clear. When the Iran hostage crisis 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: took place in nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine, and there 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: was a week president named Jimmy Carter, and it cost 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: him ultimately. I think that, and also the gas shortage 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: and the fact that he just unfortunately wasn't a very 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: good president. 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: I wanted him to succeed. 49 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: Then you look back in history and look at those 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: Americans that were held hostage and the way they were treated, 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: and Iran and that debacle and how much it weakened 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: America on the world stage. I would never want a 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: president even if it means quote, getting Ronald Reagan right 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: like Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan. 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: But I don't want it that way. 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't want a president to screw up in Americans 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: to be hurt and to have dictators and tyrants come 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: into power and gain or power. And that's why I 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: go back to this. I don't like seeing Joe Biden 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: fall down. The first time it happens, you kind of laugh, right, 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: because it's more just funny. But when you start seeing 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: it as often as we're seeing it, I don't like 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: it because I think it puts America in a really 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: bad and a really weak spot. 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: And that's exactly apparently. 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Now what MSNBC is saying, MSNBC is now worried that 67 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: the country, not the world, not our foreign policy, not 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: our adversaries, but that the American viewers are now going 69 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: to see Joe Biden go Yeah, maybe he really is 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: just too old to be president, maybe he can't handle 71 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: the job. Now there's a unique dynamic on Morning Joe. 72 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough is married to Merca and they're sitting side 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: by side. She doesn't like it when anybody criticizes Joe Biden. 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: And you can hear Joe Biden saying it was a 75 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: tough fall, and she kind of yells. 76 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: Back, stop it. 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: But then I want you to hear what the other commentator, 78 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan Lemire has to say. 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: A out Joe Biden and this fall. 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: Biden's fall yesterday it was okay, looked like a hard fall. 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: Glad he got up and he was he was okay 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: with it. 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: But obviously though. 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: Again Biden's talking tonight, we've been talking about things that 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: actually do matter, the legislation. At the same time, there's 86 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: some people in the campaign. I'm sure that we're only 87 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: going oh, come on, yeah. 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. 89 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: The first of all, a rare moment of self awareness 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: from Donald Trump there to. 91 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: Acknowledge that he also had from trouble walking. 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 4: Around actually at a service academy and graduation. Those things 93 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: apparently are tough for commanders in chief. But yes, in 94 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: terms of president, in terms of President Biden, when I 95 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: says he is fine, it. 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: Was a hard fall. 97 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 4: He tripped over a sandbag that was there on stage. 98 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: He was clearly in some pain afterwards, he was very 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: ginger as gingerly sat down afterwards, but he continued throughout 100 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: the ceremony, got back. 101 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: On Air Force one. 102 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: As you say, he did bump his head on the 103 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: Marine one as he stepped off the hell helicopter on 104 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: the White House lawn. But he does seems fine. But yes, 105 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: on a serious quote, this is and you're right. We 106 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 4: have spent correctly the majority of this block talking about 107 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: the that ceiling bill and that accomplishment. But presidents do fall, 108 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 4: they do, They trip and fall. President Obama did a 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: few times. But no president's ever been eighty one years 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: old run for reelection while they did so. 111 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: His age is an issue here. 112 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: His age is an issue here, and that's the difference 113 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: between the other falls in this fall you know, Barack 114 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Obama or George Bush forty one or forty three, those 115 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: were not age issues. That was just okay, you fell. Now, 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: look I fell. I don't know, three months ago. There 117 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: was a hole in the ground basically a little bit 118 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: of a sinkhole when I was with my kids running 119 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: through a field, and I ate it, like hard, okay 120 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: that that happens. Now, this sandbag on stage, it was 121 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: clear that that sandbag was the cause of the fall. 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: And I hate it for this president because I don't 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: want him to look like this on the world stage. 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: I put politics aside on this one, Like I think 125 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: it's really really sad when people try to play politics 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: the following. I think that's part of the reason why 127 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was saying it the way that he said 128 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: it about this. But what you heard there at the 129 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: very end, he said, this is going to be a 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: storyline they have to deal with, referring to the campaign. 131 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: This is a liberal MSNBC. They're gonna have to, you know, 132 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: they got to deal with this. They feel like voters 133 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty know how old Joe Biden is. They 134 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: know how old he is now. They like the job 135 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: he's doing. It seems like he is fine. But at 136 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, now it's four years later, 137 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: and four years later, you can have Reuters lie to 138 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: you and say, oh, he got to one knee and 139 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: he recovered quickly. That's not what happened here. I also 140 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: want you to hear what Donald Trump said in this 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: town hall about cognitive decline. 142 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: Listen, just the interviews that we've had together, and we've 143 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: had many over the years, I have asked you repeatedly 144 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 5: about what you think about Joe Biden's cognitive state. I've 145 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: asked you about is he up to the job physically mentally. 146 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: You have been very reluctant to go there. I'm not 147 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: reluctant to me. 148 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: Is everyone agree with me that this guy's cognitively not there? 149 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 5: I doubt he knows what day of the week it 150 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 5: is today. That's how bad I think it's gotten for him. 151 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: Why are you reluctant to call that out? Well, I 152 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: don't know if I'm supposed to say this. 153 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 6: I actually called Sean and I asked Sean not to 154 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 6: joke about it. I was jok because he used to 155 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 6: joke about it, and I said, honestly, I don't think 156 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 6: it looks good for you or for anybody for you 157 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 6: to joke about it, because it's a serious play. 158 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 5: I was talking about sippy cup and warm milky at 159 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: night and bedtime stories. 160 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 6: So I said, I just don't think it's good for anybody, 161 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 6: and you know it's not appropriate. You can speak about 162 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 6: it if you want, but I don't think I should 163 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 6: joke about it. 164 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 5: And you really didn't after that. Well, now I realize 165 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 5: how serious it is, especially we'll get into foreign. 166 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: Policy, and even Sean Hanny there's like, you know what, 167 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: You're probably right, like, this is not something we want 168 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: to joke about with our adversaries out there. This is 169 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: not something that we should be joking about. The age 170 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: issue is going to be an issue in this election, 171 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: and I don't believe it's really about age. I think 172 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: it's about a cognitive decline. 173 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: And if the. 174 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: President continues to fall down, whether it's a sandbag or 175 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: whether it's a whatever the reason is, it is a 176 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: glaring moment where people just have to look at this 177 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: and go, Okay, maybe he is really suffering from a 178 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: cognitive decline. And I don't believe that we should make 179 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: fun of it. You know, I go back to what 180 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats did with Fetterman. I believe it was straight 181 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: up abuse. What they did with Fetterman. The fact that 182 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: they ran him knowing you couldn't put together two cents 183 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: is they knew that he was not the guy that 184 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: should be running. They knew that he should drop out. 185 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: They didn't care. They wanted to win that seat so bad. 186 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: They didn't care if it put him into clinical depression, 187 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: as he had to go be treated for it. 188 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: They just want to win. 189 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: And that's how I really do believe they look at 190 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: it right now. That's how they look at how they're 191 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: dealing with Joe Biden now. They don't care. Prop him up, 192 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: hold him up, drag him around, make him wave to 193 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: the crowd. It's empty suit candidate. We don't care. We 194 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: have to win at all costs, no matter what we 195 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: have to win. I want to move on to another 196 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: important issue, and that deals with Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan, 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: who is a phenomenal congressman that is laser focused on 198 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: the FBI's role in Trump's Special Council investigation. He has 199 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: focused on especially after the DRM report exposes the massive 200 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: political bias at the FBI. He's now after the whole 201 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: entire budget battle is over. He's getting people focused on 202 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: the biggest story that matters to all of US. House 203 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee Chairman Jordan has now launched an official probe 204 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: to conduct oversight over Special Counsel Jack Smiths probe into 205 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: former President Donald Trump for the handling of the papers 206 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: at mar Lago. This is obviously massive new breaking news 207 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: because this isn't just about Russia. 208 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 2: This isn't about the past. 209 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: This is now about the present and the handling of 210 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the papers at Marlago. In a letter to the Attorney 211 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: General Merritt Garland, Jordan requested information about the probe to 212 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: ensure the investigation is not politicized by the FBI, which 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: suffers from a lack of public trust after improperly involving 214 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: itself in the twenty sixteen Russian hoax. He said, quote 215 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: due to the FBI's documented political bias, the Justice Department 216 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: must ensure any ongoing investigations poisoned by this same politicalization, 217 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Jordan said to Garland in reference to the Special Council 218 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: John Durham's report on Crossfire Hurricane. Durham's report also confirmed 219 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: what many suspected since the Russian hoak narrative began that 220 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: the FBI launched a completely politically motivated attack against a 221 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: sitting president, using the weak pretext to swiftly initiate a 222 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: probe into him while dismissing the intelligence that Hillary Clinton's 223 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: campaign actually plotted, paid for, and perpetrated the false narrative 224 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: along with the Democratic National Committee, and the FBI knew 225 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: this the entire time. They knew that it was a 226 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: false narrative of any type of Russian collusion. In fact, 227 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: if you remember, they offered to pay the author of 228 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: that dossier a million dollars if he could corroborate anything 229 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: in it, and guess what, he couldn't. The FBI knew 230 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: it was a lie. It didn't matter. They wanted to 231 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: have a coup. They wanted to take away your vote, 232 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: and they wanted to screw you. And that's exactly what 233 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: they were trying to do from the very beginning the 234 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: Clintons campaign. Not only do they plot to attack this, 235 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, Donald Trump his campaign, but then many Democrats 236 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: are like, hey, we don't like that the American people 237 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: picked him. 238 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: We can now just get rid of him. 239 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: There's one other person that has still not been held 240 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: accountable for this and deserves to be in serious trouble 241 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: and have his legacy change over all this, and that 242 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: is a guy by the name of Barack Obama. Can 243 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: we just pause for a second and talk about the 244 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: fact that Barack Obama knew that they were spying on 245 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. Can we talk about the fact that 246 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: he knew they were going to fight the court. Can 247 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: we talk about the fact that he had been briefed 248 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: and he knew, without a shout of a doubt, that 249 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was not colluding with the Russians. He also 250 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: knew that Joe Biden was incredibly corrupt. He knew that 251 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden had been hooring out the White House to 252 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: the highest bidder. He knew that Hunter Biden and Joe 253 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Biden were compromised by the Chinese, by the Ukrainians, and 254 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: by the Russians. 255 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: He was briefed on it all. 256 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: He knew that Donald Trump had no relationship with some 257 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: random bank in Russia. 258 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: He was briefed on it. He knew that the DNC 259 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: paid for it. 260 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: He knew that Hillary Clinton paid for the Steele dossier, 261 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: and he knew that the dossier could not be corroborated 262 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: yet in his final days in the White House, he 263 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: let all this happen, including spying on the incoming president 264 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: United States of America, not telling the incoming president United 265 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: States of America any of what he knew. That is 266 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: the problem, and the fact that no one is holding 267 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: him accountable for what he did, and what he did 268 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: was basically sanctioned this. He sanctioned it, folks. Barack Obama 269 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: knew all of this was happening, and he allowed it 270 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: to happen. As the President of Unitedate's America. He could 271 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: have put a stop to it. He could have go 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: on to the DOJ, he could have gone to the FBI, 273 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: and he could have said, stop doing this, stop abusing 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: your power. 275 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: This is wrong. 276 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: We shouldn't do this to our political opponents. So I 277 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: don't know he let it happen and didn't I would argue, 278 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: you didn't even let it happen. He clearly gave a 279 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: wink and a nod to do it, and no one 280 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: has held him accountable for any of this. The FBI 281 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: knew everything before they started this. In fact, they knew 282 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: it so much so that they even went to the 283 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: White House to try to trap people in lies. General Flynn, 284 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: the arrogance the FBI director James Comy, and what did 285 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: James Comy do? 286 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: James Comy was a. 287 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: Guy that literally knew he was going to ruin a 288 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: man's life or try to, and just sent a couple 289 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: FBI guys over the White House the situation Room to 290 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: entrap General Flynn so he could then nail him and 291 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: hopefully get some dirt on Donald Trump. 292 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: And he was proud of it. 293 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: He said they were too stupid to know that there 294 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: should be a lawyer present. Or maybe General ff Flynn 295 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: is just a great patriot. Maybe General Flynn is a 296 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: kind and good man who trusted his government. When they 297 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: sent a couple FBI agents over, he didn't think he 298 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: needed an attorney. Public trust and the FBI is low, 299 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: Jordan said in his recent letter. Recent example is a 300 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: political bias in the FBI and the Department of Justice. Operations, 301 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: He continues in his letters, show that the so called 302 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: corrective measures the FBI institute after Crossfire Hurricane have done 303 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: nothing to address, let alone cure, the institutional rot that 304 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: pervades the FBI. He calls it institutional rot. They get busted, 305 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: nothing happens. They get busted again, nothing happens, they get 306 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: busted again. They're not even ashamed of it. They're actually 307 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: proud of it. I think they get off on the 308 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: idea that they can do whatever they want to. That's 309 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: why Jim Jordan refers to the FBI and the deep 310 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: state as having an institutional rot and that's why Jordan says, quote, 311 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: we therefore request that you provide the following information. Number One, 312 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Provide information about the use of FBI personnel by Special 313 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Counsel Jack Smith, including, but not limited to, the following 314 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: the total number of FBI employees assigned to work on 315 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: this investigation. B the number of FBI employees from FBI 316 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Headquarters working on the investigation, and see the number of 317 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: FBI employees from the Washington Field office working on the investigation. 318 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Explain whether any FBI employees who have worked on Special 319 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: Counsel Smith's investigation previously worked on any other matters concerning 320 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: President Trump. He also asked, and that's a very important question. 321 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: And explain whether Special Counsel Smith's investigation relies on any 322 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: information or material gathered exclusively by the FBI prior to 323 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: the Special Council investigation. When we oh they had no 324 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: problem ying to the American people and cooking the books. 325 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. This is a really big deal, 326 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: the fact that Congress is now being forced to probe 327 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: the FBI and its role and Donald Trump and mar Lago, 328 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: the raid and the Special Council investigation of Donald Trump. 329 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Jordan's letter comes as a special counsel's probe apparently is 330 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: nearing its completion. Garland quote appointed a special council to 331 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: investigate Trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents, along with his 332 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: efforts to challenge a twenty twenty presidential election. 333 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan having none of it. 334 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 7: Folks, listen a committee hearing a few weeks ago, mister Gates, 335 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 7: he said, when is the FBI going to quit interfering 336 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 7: with elections? Twenty sixteen? They spied on President Trump's campaign 337 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 7: twenty eighteen, it was the Muller investigation. 338 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty. 339 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 7: They suppresed information about the Hunter Biden story. Twenty twenty two. 340 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 7: They raided the President's home ninety one days before an election. 341 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 7: Maybe it'd be nice if the FBI the Justice Department 342 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 7: just stayed out of it. Let we the people decide 343 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 7: who we think should represent us who we think should 344 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 7: lead us. 345 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: That's supposed to be how America works. 346 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 7: So this is the focus on the Judiciary Committee, the 347 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 7: political nature at the Justice Department, and the linkage now 348 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 7: to what was happening with the Hunter Biden story. Again, 349 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 7: just fifteen days before we have a presidential elections. 350 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: Pay very close attention to Jim Jordan and what he's doing. 351 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: He's telling you what happened. He's telling you what he's doing. 352 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: He's not backing down. And after this debt ceiling debacle, 353 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: a debacle that by the way, we're going to talk 354 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: about the winners and the loaders ers in a moment 355 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: with Senator Ted Cruz, but he's trying to remind you 356 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: right away. 357 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: Okay, we're past this now. 358 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the real issue at hand, the 359 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: investigation of the abuse of power the DOJ and the 360 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: FBI and by the Democratic Party to take down their 361 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: political enemies and protect the Biden crime family at all costs, 362 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: no matter what. 363 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: Let's talk about a great opportunity for your ira. 364 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: In four one ks you can get free gold just 365 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: by learning about gold iras from Augusta Precious Medals. 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That's eight seven seven 379 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: the number four GOLDRA or Augusta Precious Metals dot Com. 380 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: The Senate has decided they're going to go along with 381 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: the House in essence and send it to the President's 382 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: desk with just days away from the quote default deadline, 383 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: and as long as Joe Biden doesn't fall down again, 384 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's going to sign this thing. So what 385 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: does it actually mean for the American people. Well, we're 386 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: going to give you a glimpse of what happened in Washington, 387 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: DC today with my co host of Verdict to Ted Cruz. 388 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: And if you've never downloaded verdictra Ted Cruz, do it. 389 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: We're going to do a deep dive this morning on 390 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: how we got to this point from Washington's perspective. Senator, 391 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: always a pleasure to have you on the show. 392 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: And this deal was done. 393 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: It is a deal that Democrats seem to be pretty 394 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: happy with. There's a lot of Republicans that actually seem 395 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: to be pretty happy with it. There's no ende cation. 396 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: The President's not going to sign this. So were there 397 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: positive things in this bill that conservatives, true concernives can 398 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: feel good about. 399 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 8: Oh, look, sure, there's not nothing in the bill that 400 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 8: There are some elements. There is some expansion of work 401 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 8: requirements for welfare that's beneficial, and there is some recision 402 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 8: of unspent COVID emergency funds that's beneficial. And there are 403 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 8: some marginal spending cuts so that's beneficial. 404 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: There's also some. 405 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 8: Modest improvements in permitting and reforms. The problem is the 406 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 8: price for that was four trillion dollars in debt, and 407 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 8: the benefits we got were much much smaller than the consequence. 408 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: There's always the question of, Okay, we got power back 409 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: in the House. House Senator, did the House do enough 410 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: to push back from the brink? Of course, the threat right, 411 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: there's going to be a collapse. We're going to default. 412 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: It will be horrific. America never can default on its loans. 413 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't default on its loans. And the White House 414 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: wasn't speaking to McCarthy for quite some time after they 415 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: had to sit down, and even the next day I 416 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: think they were in a prayer breakfast. McCarthy said, you know, 417 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: they even said to the room, we're going to get 418 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: together again soon and work on this. 419 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: They clearly wanted to wait till the end so. 420 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: That this thing could get rammed through Congress quickly without 421 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people even having enough time to really 422 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: dive into it. Yes, thank goodness, there was seventy two 423 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: hours to look into it. But at the end of 424 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: the day, this was a catastrophic, chaotic moment that was 425 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: created by design. Did the Republicans of the House stay 426 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: true to what they promised the voters when we gave 427 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: them the House in November? 428 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 8: Well, look, there were a number of House Conservatives that 429 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 8: ultimately know on this deal, and if you're a conservative, 430 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 8: you voted no. This was a deal where the majority 431 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 8: of the votes that came for it came from Democrats. 432 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 8: The Democrats in the Senate, all but five Democrats voted 433 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 8: for this deal. We had thirty one Republicans vote no 434 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 8: on this deal. So you can see from the votes, 435 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 8: you can see from where people lined up. Mitt Romney 436 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 8: was a yes. That tells you a lot about where 437 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 8: this bill ended up. I was a no, Mike Lee 438 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 8: was a no. Rand Paul was a no. If you 439 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 8: are a conservative, you voted no. And the reason is 440 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 8: it's exactly what Joe Biden has told his people that 441 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 8: the Biden agenda got funded. In this We're at thirty 442 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 8: two trillion dollars in debt two years from now, will 443 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 8: be at least at thirty six trillion dollars in debt, 444 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 8: So a four trillion dollar blank check is what the 445 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 8: Democrats got. We did not cut the eighty billion in 446 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 8: new funding for eighty seven thousand new IRS agents that 447 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 8: was in the original bill the House pass but that 448 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 8: got jettisoned by the White House. We did not add 449 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 8: work requirements for Medicaid that was in the original bill 450 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 8: the House pass, but that was not in this final bill. 451 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 8: We did not cut spending back significantly to get anywhere 452 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 8: approaching pre COVID levels. The first version of this bill 453 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 8: made a significant step that way. 454 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: This bill does not. 455 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 8: It accepts the explosion of federal spending that came from 456 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 8: COVID and it cooks it into the baseline. And so 457 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 8: there's a reason that Democrats are celebrating right now, which 458 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 8: is that they just got a Republican House and a 459 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 8: whole bunch of Republicans in the Senate to support the 460 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 8: vast majority of the Biden spending agenda. 461 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: We're obviously going to do a deep dive into verdict 462 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: with Ted Cruz. If you've never download a vertic with 463 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, do it, and we're going to have that 464 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: this morning for you out as well, so that you 465 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: can We're going to really go back walk you through 466 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: all this and even go into more things like the 467 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: irs in depth. Last question though on this for you, Senator, 468 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: and that is the mindset of this White House after this, 469 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: and people were very concerned that this was going to 470 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: turn into a default scenario. 471 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Was that all just political posturing? 472 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: And when are we going to have to go through 473 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: this crap all over again, because I'm starting to get 474 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: a little fatigued. I think a lot of people are 475 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: that it's like, you know, Armageddon, that the sky has fallen, 476 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: chicken little every six months every year, when are we 477 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: going to do this charade again? 478 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 8: Well, look, Ben, that is by design. That is what 479 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 8: the White House wants. That's what leadership in both houses 480 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 8: want because when there's a crisis, when they say we're 481 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 8: about to default on the debt, that's how they get 482 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 8: the Democrats and a bunch of squishy Republicans to agree 483 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 8: to trillions more in spending. And they do it over 484 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 8: and over and over again. And I would say it's 485 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 8: like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football, But it's 486 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 8: not even like that, because at this point, nobody doubts 487 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 8: they're going to pull the football out of the way. 488 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 8: We get the game at this point. But there are 489 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 8: a lot of Republicans who are perfectly happy with it. 490 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 8: They don't want to want to rock the boat. And 491 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 8: I will say too many of them are our content 492 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 8: to manage the decline of the republic. Look in twenty seventeen, 493 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 8: that was just five years ago. In twenty seventeen, the 494 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 8: national debt was twenty trillion dollars. Today in twenty twenty three, 495 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 8: it is thirty two trillion dollars. That is a massive increase. 496 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: And what did. 497 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 8: Congress do this week? Said thirty two trillion is not enough. 498 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 8: Let's go to thirty six trillion dollars. We are bankrupting 499 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 8: our kids and gids. And the game is to come 500 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 8: up to a cliff where they threaten. It alternates. Half 501 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 8: the time they threaten a default on the debt, half 502 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 8: the time they threaten a government shutdown, and it's one 503 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 8: after the other. We're going to have the government shutdown 504 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 8: fight the end of September, and it will always be 505 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 8: this crisis. If you don't agree to further bankrupt the country, 506 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 8: this terrible thing will happen in September. 507 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: Mark your calendar is what you're saying, because that's when 508 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: that is all going to happen again after summer. 509 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: Yep. 510 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 8: And I got to tell you when I was new 511 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 8: in the Senate, I was elected in twenty twelve, so 512 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 8: eleven years ago, when I was newly elected, that that 513 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 8: there was a game that I discovered that every six 514 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 8: months or year, the graybeards in the Senate would say, 515 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 8: whatever the fight was, they'd say, no, no, no, no, 516 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 8: you need to understand ted. You don't fight on funding 517 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 8: the government. You wait for the death ceiling. Then the 518 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 8: death ceiling would happen. They said, no, no, no, no, 519 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 8: you need to understand you don't fight on the death ceiling, 520 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 8: wait for funding the government. And it's like they have 521 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 8: the memory of hummingbirds. They don't remember six months ago 522 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 8: they said the opposite. 523 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: And they keep. 524 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 8: Playing that game over and over and over again. And 525 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 8: I will say one of the things that's changed is 526 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 8: the grassroots, I think has gotten a lot savvier. They 527 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 8: understand this game now that you don't get to thirty 528 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 8: two trillion dollars in debt without both parties energetically jumping 529 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 8: in the mud and rolling around with the pork. 530 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see what happens 531 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: in September. It's amazing how many of you guys that 532 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: listen to show that may not actually be listening to Verdict. 533 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: And I'm going to do a better job of having 534 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: the center on and preview what we're doing on Verdict 535 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: to take cruise. So grab it, download it, hit that 536 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: follow subscribe or auto dowload button wherever you get your podcasts, 537 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: where you're listening to this podcast center, it's a pleasure. 538 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: As always, thanks for coming on the show.