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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com, presented by Coors Light. Here

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Speaker 1: is Jeff Feagles. I am John Schmilk. The phone number

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Speaker 1: for you is two A one nine three nine four

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Speaker 1: or five one three when reminds you to download the

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Speaker 1: the season. The Giants fall to the Washington Redskins twenty,

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Speaker 1: a disappointing loss for the New York Football Giants. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they folded one and seven heading into the by Jeff

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Speaker 1: and I guess we'll break down the game first before

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Speaker 1: we get into some of the big picture stuff here

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Speaker 1: with the New York Football Giants. So, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like groundhogs Day. I mean I just finished my game notes.

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Speaker 1: I sent him to get posted up on the website,

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Speaker 1: and right the same stuff every week. It's different mistakes

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Speaker 1: on different drive, short circuiting what they're trying to get done,

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Speaker 1: and then when they do get down there into the

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Speaker 1: red zone, they can't finish. And if you continue to

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Speaker 1: repeat those things every week, you're gonna wind up with

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Speaker 1: sixteen points. You don't wan end up with their team

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Speaker 1: points you're gonna wind up with ten points and you

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Speaker 1: simply cannot win in the National Football League scoring under

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Speaker 1: twenty points. You've been through this before, We've been through

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Speaker 1: it again. The team has to figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to score more points. And the bad thing about it

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Speaker 1: is it back to back weeks. You've had a chance

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Speaker 1: to win games. I mean, you look at the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: game and look at this game. You surely had many

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Speaker 1: chances to win both of these games the way even

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Speaker 1: the way that they've been playing. But it all comes down,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, to the running the running game. The

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Speaker 1: running game. If you know, let's let's not even talk

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Speaker 1: about the red zone. But when you have a running game,

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Speaker 1: it helps you in the red zone. When you have

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Speaker 1: a running game, it helps you in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: It takes pressure off of your quarterback, and all things

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Speaker 1: kind of run together. But when you do not have

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Speaker 1: that running game and you run for thirty seven or

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Speaker 1: thirty eight yards on the day, you're gonna have your

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Speaker 1: problems in the red zone. You're gonna have your problems

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. And that's exactly what happened in this game.

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Speaker 1: And when you have an offensive line that can't run

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Speaker 1: block or pass block for that much because of seven

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Speaker 1: sacks in one game. And it could have been worse,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if you I didn't scramble out of

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Speaker 1: a couple of them. Yeah, and you know that's I

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Speaker 1: don't care if you everybody wants a mobile quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: don't care how mobile you are behind what happened yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but um, you know, really and the Giants had a chance,

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Speaker 1: they really did. And then on fourth down you look

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Speaker 1: at what happened on fourth down the play to Ingram.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a fourth and three. Now here's one

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Speaker 1: thing that I don't I don't understand, John, And maybe

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Speaker 1: you can help me with this. It's fourth and three.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that when you can you do a

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Speaker 1: hard count somewhere down the line fourth and three play

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Speaker 1: for a five yard penalty to try to get them

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Speaker 1: off sides. I mean, that's one way to get a

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Speaker 1: first down. Well, you also can count on your first

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Speaker 1: round draft take a tight end to catch the football, yes,

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Speaker 1: but no hard count. There so a lot of disappointment.

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Speaker 1: We did the show, you know in the coaches club yesterday.

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Speaker 1: There was I've never I've never heard so many frustrated

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Speaker 1: that little brief time that we're there and you're you're

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Speaker 1: starting to see it again, and they're no answers from us.

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Speaker 1: We were asked, when is kyle I let Her gonna play?

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Speaker 1: Do you really think that Paul and I can sit

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Speaker 1: up on a stage and and tell somebody when Kyle

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Speaker 1: I Letta is gonna play? We don't know, forgot's sake

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Speaker 1: that I'm not a practice so I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: that he's not taking a lot of first team reps

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Speaker 1: first of all, and second of all, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he has our jersey on Sunday. In fact, I know

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Speaker 1: he doesn't, so he's a little ways away from playing

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Speaker 1: if he was going to. But I mean, just two

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Speaker 1: questions that we're getting, we don't have the answers, And

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Speaker 1: I'll go one more step further. This is the bye week,

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Speaker 1: so there's going to be some serious evaluation, self scouting,

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Speaker 1: you name it coming through in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, there's there's things that the Giants

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Speaker 1: bring players in all the time to workouts. This is

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Speaker 1: no different than any other time in the in the

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Speaker 1: in the year. They're bringing guys in just so happens

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Speaker 1: to However, many people are here today working out, so

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Speaker 1: don't get any crazy idea. This is what they normally do.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see if any of those guys are good enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we will um a couple of other notes. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: the inability to run the football. That's how in the

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Speaker 1: second half you get third downs of five yards, ten yards,

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Speaker 1: eighteen yards. Let me keep going in the twelve yards

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Speaker 1: it's even worse than that. And by the way, it's

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Speaker 1: two for fourteen and just a few weeks ago it

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Speaker 1: took the Giants six quarters to make a third down

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Speaker 1: conversion six and a lot of those. And you go

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Speaker 1: through the individual drives, and if you read the game

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Speaker 1: notes story, it's not up there yet. It'll go up

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Speaker 1: there later today. If you're listening on the archive of

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Speaker 1: the show. This is not the same mistakes on each

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Speaker 1: drive that's ruining things for you. It's always something a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. For example, I'm gonna throw a few

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Speaker 1: and a bore you to death. Okay, um, here we go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: number one give first drive at the game. Benny Fowler

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Speaker 1: The ball hit him right in the waist. So number one,

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Speaker 1: a game penalty. They convert to Odell Beckham on that

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Speaker 1: Then they run for no game. Eli man gets sacked

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Speaker 1: So let's say, so we have the momentum no no.

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Speaker 1: not absolved from blame. Sometimes it's the offensive line more

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Speaker 1: On the next play, Benny Fowler drops a pass that

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Speaker 1: these little mistakes add up, and everyone keeps trying to

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Speaker 1: salve it by doing one thing all fire. Tom Cough

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Speaker 1: problem solved. Get rid of the general manager problem solved.

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Speaker 1: Get rid of Ben mcado problem solved and next thing

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Speaker 1: is now? Next thing, Oh get rid of the line

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Speaker 1: manning problem solved? Well, guess what you made all these changes?

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Speaker 1: Has the problem is solved? Yet? No, it has not.

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Speaker 1: And do you know why, because the problem is bigger

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Speaker 1: one player. That's three man roster, and that's a big

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Speaker 1: part of the problem here. And you guys listening to

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Speaker 1: I have been around you know. Momentum is a huge

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Speaker 1: when you're in a close game against the division opponent,

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Speaker 1: you get a fumble, which the Giants do not force

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Speaker 1: Guess what happens? Drop past then we get a penalty.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's kills the momentum to drive

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Speaker 1: they killed the momentum. No points again to play yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the interception momentum. These are just plays. These are things

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Speaker 1: that this cannot happen if you're gonna win close football games.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, last week and this week, we're

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Speaker 1: it okay? They're they're a formidable offense. The Redskins don't

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Speaker 1: They're running out of bullets, by the way, Well, and

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Speaker 1: then the same thing to Jeff Aden of the games

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been leading. It's not an excuse whatsoever, okay um,

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Speaker 1: I just trying to find things that to help the cause.

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Speaker 1: these shows that we try to come up with something

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Speaker 1: all comes down to every player wanting to do your

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Speaker 1: if everybody does that, you win football games. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose some games here and there, but this is not

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning's fault. I don't care what what quarterbacks behind

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Speaker 1: the offensive line lately, he's not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: do a lot now. Eli Manning deserves his no question,

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Speaker 1: to go down that road. Now. Listen, if there's if

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Speaker 1: it's a tradeable and it can be it can be

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Speaker 1: economically good, then look and if and if it's a

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Speaker 1: complete train wreck and it's like destroying your franchise, yeah,

430
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 1: you can take it like that. I get it, but

431
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 1: I am close to a train wreck. I don't. I

432
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 1: don't have a sense. But it's not. But it's not.

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00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 1: Look the Giant Star one and seven because of Will

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Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. They're not. Actually he's doing very well. As

435
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Speaker 1: far as he's playing great, he's fine. I mean he's

436
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Speaker 1: And we even went over I said this in the

437
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Speaker 1: pregame show. It's crazy to see that going into this game,

438
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Speaker 1: that Odell Beckham and Sequon Barkley we're in the top

439
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: five in the National Football League in their first in

440
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: their respective categories. I mean, this offense is broke, but

441
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Speaker 1: they somehow need to They somehow our fourth and rushing

442
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: and and uh and and they've gotta receiver that Like

443
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: a lot of games, yards haven't been the issue. It's

444
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: the points that aren't issue. The red zone. They it's

445
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: the as the guys people were saying in the press box,

446
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: this is the disaster zone, not the red zone. You

447
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: know you mentioned how many you know, their exit yards yards,

448
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 1: this yards and how many touchdowns. You just gotta have

449
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: no that that's a big that's a big difference. Yeah

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Speaker 1: to four five one three, James and Virginia's up next.

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Speaker 1: Hi James, Hi, James. Hey, Hey, Um. I had the

452
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Speaker 1: one point about the quarterback before I started, But I

453
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Speaker 1: have a couple now. I watched every play every game,

454
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: been a Giants fans and say the six and play

455
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: two years old. Uh, let me say, O'Dell has five

456
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: drops on the season that I've seen, so he's playing

457
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Speaker 1: out of his mind. So I don't know about that,

458
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: but okay, uh on the passes, I was gone, Odell,

459
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: you don't you only have about five or six drops

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Speaker 1: on season. I don't think he's that many, to be

461
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: honest with I think he's maybe probably like the highest

462
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: probably had four and a half. But um, and I

463
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: have defended the last whole career. But this season, his

464
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: immobility really has shown. He's no less mobile now than

465
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Speaker 1: he was before. Right, all right, But when you say,

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Speaker 1: in like a winnable game like yesterday's game, uh, there

467
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Speaker 1: were a couple of sacks where he just didn't he

468
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Speaker 1: wasn't like on the balls of his feet. It didn't

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Speaker 1: look like you know what I mean. He's standing there

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Speaker 1: and he's not bouncing on the balls of his feet

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Speaker 1: where he can step out of the sack. He had

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Speaker 1: that one set the guy ankle tackled him. He just

473
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Speaker 1: kind of fell over with the ball because it was

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Speaker 1: also a guy on his exactly right right right now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and another guy coming from his other side and his

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Speaker 1: face where he covered up from, and you know, the

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00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: guy crawled up on his ankle or whatnot. But there

478
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: was you know, with seven sacks, and there could have

479
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Speaker 1: been more. It's just him standing there in his lack

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Speaker 1: of immobility. If he puts somebody else in, um, not

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Speaker 1: saying that they're gonna do better, but if you're only

482
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Speaker 1: getting seventeen points a game with Beli, then putting somebody

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Speaker 1: else in, you get more than seventeen points than great

484
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: in seventeen points anyway, Kyle let is not Lamar Jackson now. True, true,

485
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Speaker 1: But with all these moves you got, you got Bridgewater

486
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Speaker 1: sitting over there, Bridgewater in mobile either he's like one leg. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the running game, because uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we always say fifteen touches isn't enough, and yeah, we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of negative yards, and you can say

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Speaker 1: it can go in a negative direction. But I think

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Speaker 1: if fifteen touches Barkley breaks to one or two of

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Speaker 1: those one of those for a long run. If you

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Speaker 1: give them thirty touches to break three or four of those,

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Speaker 1: one of those which will be an extra touchdown the game.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you as he had twenty two touches yesterday, right, um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so so what's wrong with that? That's how many

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Speaker 1: how many yards? Um? Did you end up with? He

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Speaker 1: had thirteen rushes for thirty eight yards, a wonderful two

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Speaker 1: point nine average, which by the way, is not his fault.

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Speaker 1: And he had nine catches for seventy three yards on

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Speaker 1: ten targets. So I mean how many overall rushing? Uh

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Speaker 1: thirty rushing yards? Yeah? Yeah, we'll see. And I mean

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Speaker 1: if you give them what eight more or eight more touches?

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Speaker 1: You want to him touches the game? Do you want

505
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Speaker 1: to break your rookie running back? I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to break them. But you see that

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Speaker 1: Buckley can do, you know, good things if you might

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Speaker 1: put them out in space. Let's see a couple of

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Speaker 1: more screams. He and nine catches. He's on pace for

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Speaker 1: a hundred and ten receptions this year. How many do

511
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Speaker 1: you want it to get? That's that's another thing. All

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Speaker 1: of his catches are him standing and going right out

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Speaker 1: into the flat. Let's see a zig route from behind

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Speaker 1: the line into the middle. Did you know that time?

515
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: Not time about James. Did you see him turn around yesterday? Yeah,

516
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: he actually spun terriging around in coverage and he caught

517
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Speaker 1: a circle riding right over the middle. Just what you said,

518
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Speaker 1: just what you described. He did exactly what you just

519
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Speaker 1: described yesterday against the Redskins. That's one time and one

520
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: and seventh and the one and seventh Sea one James.

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Speaker 1: He caught a big third down pass down the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Against the Texans, he drew a passing the Fjords forty

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Speaker 1: yards down the field yesterday. Else do you want he

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Speaker 1: was forty yards down the field? I'm not. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about his uh receiving touches, because he gets

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Speaker 1: a lot of those. You just see now I'm beginning

527
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of my point. Was the number of

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Speaker 1: carries and let's get him a you know, twenty was

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Speaker 1: that in his highest Russian total last week? Uh? This

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Speaker 1: last week he had more than that? No, of course

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Speaker 1: not No, you only had thirteen. I mean you'd like

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Speaker 1: to see fifteen, sixteen and maybe ten touches a game.

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Speaker 1: I like twenty five. I think that's a good number

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Speaker 1: for when he got drafted. What do we say, We

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Speaker 1: said he get between twenty and twenty five touches a game.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're looking for, and that's about where he's at.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good number. I mean, he's on

538
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Speaker 1: pace to break the NFL record for catches for a

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Speaker 1: running back. What. I don't know what else you can

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Speaker 1: we need to hunker down that we need to get

541
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: for the old line's sake. We need to run of

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00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: ding on ball. But they can't. They can't do anything.

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00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: So let's start with the basics and and lean on

544
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: these and pride to lead on these guys and get

545
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: barkly those catches where I mean those touches, those runs

546
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: where he can break one extra long one for a

547
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: touchdown the game, that's all I'm saying. I appreciates then,

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00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but here's the problem. But James, here's

549
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: the issue. Though, in all seriousness, if you continue to

550
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: pound it and you give him twenty carries and he

551
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: gains fifty two yards, you're not gonna score any points

552
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be third and eight and third and

553
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: nine every single time. And this offense, with the offensive

554
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: line the way it's playing, is not capable of converting

555
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: third and long. So pat Youremer said that he was

556
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: asked about this, he goes, look, we want to run

557
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: the ball, but when you run the ball, you have

558
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Speaker 1: to actually gain positive yards. And the Giants have far

559
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: too many runs with a gainst zero yards, one yard

560
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: or lose yards and a couple of big runs here

561
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: and there. You know, sway the numbers overall, but they

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00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: do not They're in second and nine and eight all

563
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: the time. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking.

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00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: You just have to use Barkley's specialty and I hope

565
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: don't break them, but you know you can. You see

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Speaker 1: he's making one or two guys missed every play. That's

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00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Give him, statistically, give him one more

568
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: play to make one or two one or two guys missed.

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Speaker 1: All right, James, we appreciate the call, but all right,

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00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: thank you, sir. Adrian Peterson had twenty six attempts. He

571
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Speaker 1: had one receiving attempt. That's seven. You look at Barkley

572
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Speaker 1: at thirteen rushes. He had ten targets. That's twenty three.

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00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: So they're they're pretty comfortable as far as you want

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00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: to go where. But guess what. The Redskins can run

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Speaker 1: the football. The Giants cannot. And you, like you said,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna give Barkley ten more carries, you think

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Speaker 1: he's going to get fifty more yards. He might get

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00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: he might get twelve more yards. Jeff. Honestly, when you

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Speaker 1: look at those runs yesterday, how many were you like,

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, he was like one get one miss away

581
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: from making a big play. No, none of them. No,

582
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: he had no chance on most of them. And so

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00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: you know what, when logically thinking, I say to myself,

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Speaker 1: I cannot run the football behind this offensive line. I'm

585
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: going to get the ball in Sequan's Barkeley's hands in

586
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: space a little bit, get the ball on the screen,

587
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: or get him on a little flair flass. Didn't make

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00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: him some place. That's what he's done. Yeah, guys, I'm sorry,

589
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: I look, I I apologize for getting pad. But you

590
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: can't call in and say they're not throwing him the

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Speaker 1: pall enough in an NFL record for catches for a

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Speaker 1: running back. Literally, guess what, O'Dell had one more target

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00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: than Sequon last week. So you're not It's not like

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00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: we're not getting the ball into Quon Barkley. And that

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00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: doesn't even count the forty yard pass and the Fearence

596
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: penalty that he drew. There you go, okay, that's what

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00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: we do on Big Blue kick Off. We try to

598
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: argue our points. But we appreciate your calling, James, good call.

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00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we definitely appreciate your calling in and making

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Speaker 1: some points. But you know what, I think, I think,

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00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: I think all in all, yeah, he would love to

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00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: have Sequan get ten more carries in rushing, but it's

603
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: it's infeasible for him to do it. Know it again.

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00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: If he's having more success, then you'll get all four

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00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: ten more. But it's not just keep running into a

606
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: brick wall and saying, oh, it's gonna work next time.

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00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna work next time. Correct two, one four, five,

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Speaker 1: one three. Let's go back to the phones and say

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Speaker 1: hello to Antonio Manhattany, Antonio, what's going on? Pal? Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys? Has everything going? We're doing great?

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Speaker 1: An Tonya, how are you buddy? Doing good? Doing good?

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00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: I just wanna call and give a little I want

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Speaker 1: to defend a defense a little bit, John, and I

614
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: know you're getting at them. You got them a little

615
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: bit at the beginning of the show. But I don't

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00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: act no and no and toyo. I wouldn't want to

617
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: be clear. The defense the last two weeks has played

618
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: well enough to win the football game. It's not their fault.

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Speaker 1: They have played well. No that, but that's not true.

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00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: They had three games that they gave up thirty points

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Speaker 1: three straight weeks. That's not playing good enough to win.

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00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: But then, but then, but here's what I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: and that's my rebutic to that is, if the offense

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00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: is not helping you any type of way and you're

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00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: on the field every so long, nobody, Antonio, nobody, but

626
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: that the time of possession. Heading into this game, the

627
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Giants were right in the middle of the league. And

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00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what it is. If you're talking about

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00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: guys getting tired, how is it not about time of possession?

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Here's here's here's because here's the thing. If the Giants

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00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: are primary a man coverage team, that's one thing. Another

632
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: thing too, is not as much anymore, by the way,

633
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: But okay, well okay, maybe maybe not, maybe not, Um,

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00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: that's the rest kids game. But they've pretty much been

635
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: man coverage every single game for the most part, pay

636
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Speaker 1: very little zone. That's why we get killed on inside

637
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: slants on third and forever never we do have it,

638
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: m um. But um, yeah, when you're playing so much

639
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: man coverage, it's not even about a time of possession

640
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: because it's it's how many snatch're getting unfield. On top

641
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: of that, these guys are they don't have like you don't.

642
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: They can't pin their ears back and just rush the

643
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: quarterback because they're up by two touchdowns. They don't. They

644
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: still have to defend the run and the path because

645
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: the games either they're up or it's a really close game,

646
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: you know. So that is stressful. It's stressful mentally, it's

647
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: stressed specifically. And then when it gets to the fourth

648
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: quarter or the second half, that's when you really see

649
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: us give up that big play. So so my my

650
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: thing is the defense hasn't been terrible. It's just because

651
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: and no, you're right, it hasn't been terrible, but it

652
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: hasn't been good either right now, and and and that's

653
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to say in terms of the defense. Um.

654
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Another until I wanted to ask you, John, because because

655
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think that you're, like then the leader

656
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: of the Big Blue kickoff. So I want to ask

657
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: you when is it? Okay Star started talking about the draft?

658
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: Is it when we get eliminated? Um? It's a good question. Uh, well,

659
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: how about this? And I guess I'm not my breaking news,

660
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: but I already have it booked next Monday. Me and

661
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: Paul are gonna host because Jeff can't work next Monday. Um,

662
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Dame Burgle Aron, who's our guy from

663
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: the athletic who does the draft, and we're gonna go

664
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Speaker 1: through some draft eligible players next Monday. So if we're

665
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna do a guest, I guess it's okay for calls

666
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: to call in and ask about it. But I'm not

667
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: spending whole shows on it because we don't even know

668
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: who's coming out yet. We don't know where the Giants

669
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: are picking, so it's kind of kind of productive to

670
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: do too much on it, you know what I mean.

671
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk about players that definitely thing,

672
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: but I would want to say just based off what

673
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: we've seen so far out of Eli Manning. Um, And

674
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound weird because you know, I have

675
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: been kind of like against Eli a little bit this year.

676
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: But I would want to see him back next year.

677
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Meaning yes, I would want them to get a quarterback

678
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: in free agency whoever is available, where it's cheap, maybe

679
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: a one year, two year contract. But I do want

680
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: but I don't want them to draft a quarterback. But

681
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, did they get whatever picket is

682
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: in the first round, I don't want to see a quarterback. Well, Tony,

683
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: here's the thing, though, how can you say that when

684
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: you do don't know who's going to be available. Well,

685
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: they're already a certain experts. I already said that this

686
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: is gonna be a weak quarterback class. The only the

687
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: only kid that would be worthy of a top ten

688
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: picket quarterback is the kid out of Oregon. And there's

689
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: and there's rumors that he might not come out. Yes,

690
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm aware, But if he does come out, I don't

691
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: see why you wouldn't at least consider him if if

692
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: he's there not asking, well maybe absolutely, that's definitely true.

693
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm more interested in getting the top offensive tackle, or

694
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Speaker 1: getting the top offensive or the top defensive end, which

695
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: is going to be either both both as a the

696
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: defensive end or Jonah which is the offensive lineman from

697
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: from Alabama. But I'm not gonna tell so much about

698
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: the draft. That's pretty much all I wanted to say, guys,

699
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: and have a good one. I appreciate Anthony, no problem,

700
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: and I will and I will give a little preview here.

701
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: But first of all, Jeff Giants had zero sacks yesterday.

702
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they might want to work and get it in

703
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: the defensive end. Well yeah, I mean, and and this

704
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: is a very good defensive draft, so I think defensive

705
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: end mightn't be the way to go. Um, I'm gonna

706
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: try to bring up um, Dame Bruegler's big board here

707
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: because I believe and I think I favored it that

708
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: earlier today, so I can bring that up for you. Um, yeah, exactly. Um,

709
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can bring that up for you.

710
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: But um, this is not a great offensive class, to

711
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: be quite honest with you. Um, there's just not a

712
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are out there. And and that's

713
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people that's why the

714
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: argument was the Sequon Barkley slash Sam Donald Rosen all

715
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: the other quarterback you know conversation because last year was

716
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: one of those years where they don't come out come

717
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: around very often, where you have four of those guys

718
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: that are true fire quarterbacks. Well, this year there's there's

719
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: not that many. So taking a look at Dame Bruegler's

720
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: big board, I'll just go through the top ten this

721
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: his mid season numbers on who these guys are gonna be.

722
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: He has Nick boson number one, and again he hasn't

723
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: played a lot this year with that foot injury. He's

724
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: not gonna play again, but he's there um defensive end.

725
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: He is the kid out of Oregon, the quarterback of

726
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: number two, Justin Herbert. Again, there's rumors you might not

727
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: come out, but I've heard the same thing about Sam

728
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: Donald this time last year too and he ended up

729
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: coming out. So let's see about that traditional pocket passer,

730
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: the type of quarterback that I think a lot of

731
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: L teams would like. And Oliver the big defensive tackle

732
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: on of Houston at three. I mean, that guy is

733
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: a freak show six to seventy five and he's a

734
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: hell of an athlete. Uh the defensive tackle ALBB out

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00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: of Alabama at four, a cornerback out of L s

736
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Speaker 1: U at five, Greedy Williams, free safety out of Alabama,

737
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson at six, um Rashawn Gary, a defensive lineman

738
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Speaker 1: six five eight five so not at d ND per

739
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: se kind of a big correct um Montez sweat Rush

740
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: out of Mississippi State at eight UH nine, josh Allen

741
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Russia out of Kentucky who actually has a couple of

742
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: really good draft eligible players this year. And Jeffrey Simmons,

743
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle in Mississippi State. Eleven he is an

744
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: edge rusher, twelve he is a cornerback, thirteen he is

745
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: a cornerback fourteen he has the first offensive tackle Greg

746
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: Little on offensive tackle up all miss. So if you're

747
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: top ten at least right now, you're going, I think

748
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: you gotta go defense unless you decide the quarterbacks there

749
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: and you want to go that way, well, okay, and

750
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: I and I think you'll agree with me. If whether

751
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: it's the Giants or anybody for that matter, the last

752
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: thing you want to do is reach for a quarterback

753
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: you gotta pick. If you pick them, you gotta believe

754
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: in him. You gotta believe him because you know you

755
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: always set you back five years and that that's true.

756
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: That's true. You're gonna have to you gotta be you

757
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: don't reach on this guy. So if you don't think so,

758
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: and we don't even know about Herbert, if he's gonna

759
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: be there, but he's always definitely has the intangibles. He's

760
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: a pocket pazzer. He's six ft five, two thirties and

761
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: big kid, got a strong arm. Oh he can play.

762
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean he can play. So you know, hey, why

763
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, why didn't we hear about this guy last year?

764
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: Now he's in't hat the mobility, So maybe fans don't

765
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: want them if the want a guy that can run

766
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: around like a lout tic. Okay, so I heard and

767
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: I heard a great conversation on the way home yesterday.

768
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: We start Carl Banks, and you were in the studio

769
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: there yesterday that Carl made a great point for all

770
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: these people that want that mobile quarterback. You can have them,

771
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: you can have them, but guess what you're gonna have

772
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: with him. You're gonna have the injury list, and you're

773
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna have you're gonna have surgeries and you have and

774
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: he made a great point the safest place for a

775
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: quarterback is in the pocket, because that's where you're protected.

776
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: So there you go, all right, And I the last

777
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: time I checked. Ben Roethlisberger not a pocket, is not

778
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: a you know, a running quarterback. He does pretty good

779
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: from the pocket, Tom Brady, A lot of these guys

780
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: are pretty good from the pocket. List of body Manning

781
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: from the pocket, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers.

782
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: Go down the list, and let me go through the

783
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: mobile guys, by the way, the Shawn Watson, oh to

784
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: c last year, Carson Wentz last year, go back in time,

785
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, role mobile right, clavical back, everything, Steve Young concussions.

786
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: It's difficult for the mobile guys to stay healthy. I

787
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: mean the one guy maybe that stayed healthy is is

788
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: H Wilson from Seattle. Yeah. He though he's the one

789
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: guy because he does a real good job of not

790
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: getting hit. He just slides gets out of the way.

791
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: And then you have the freak shows like Cam Newton

792
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott whore two fifty pounds and they're bigger

793
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: than the linebackers hitting them correct correct, and so they

794
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: can survive that. They can, but you know what, they're

795
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: not going to survive it forever. And by the way happen.

796
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck used to try to run around a lot,

797
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: right and buy time with his shoulder. How'd that work out?

798
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: That's not going to work out either. So I mean

799
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: that's you know, as soon as we get closer and

800
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: closer to the Oregon guy. And and again it's not

801
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: to say that mobile quarterbacks aren't useful jet, it's just

802
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: that there aren't dangers that go along with it. And

803
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: and also you you know, your your offense is now

804
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: designed around that type of caliber of a player too.

805
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,600
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00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,800
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00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: our next call or it's dyaling and can't Hey, what's

809
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: going today? Good? Um, well, I kind of had like

810
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: a motivational Monday type of thing, go ahead, go for it. Well, uh,

811
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, I know as a fan, you know, it's

812
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: frustrating these past couple of years seeing uh, you know,

813
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: especially this year, a team that we believed in and

814
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: you know, all the talent in the world and seeing

815
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: how it's how it all unfolded this year. But um,

816
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: the big thing, at least myself. I'm going to look

817
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: as just trust the process. I mean, you know, coming

818
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: off the franchise, worst year at three and thirteen, I

819
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: don't care what coach you put in there. You could

820
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: put you know, Belichick in there, and I don't know

821
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: if he would ever turn the team fully around. And uh,

822
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: just some quick math I did looking at the depth

823
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: chart and stuff. UM, I mean I don't know if

824
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: it's correct, um exactly, but I counted twenty four different

825
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: players that either started this year or they had some

826
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: game action from last year. So there's twenty four different

827
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: players than we had last year. There's a new offensive scheme,

828
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: new defensive scheme, UM, almost all new coaches, new defensive coordinator,

829
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. I mean this is you know, basically

830
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: it's a new team, so you know, obviously it's gonna

831
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: take time for it to come together. And um, even

832
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: like the offensive line, these all these combinations and stuff,

833
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: they've never played alongside with each other ever before. So

834
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: it's just a whole new different approach. Um. I think

835
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: Edelman will make really crucial decisions. I think he I

836
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: think that's one of his um positive demeanors versus Jerry Reese.

837
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: I think Edelman has more of a way to make, really,

838
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, the crucial decisions that some people may not make. UM.

839
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: And I think this past year's draft um was pretty

840
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: sick accessiful because I think a lot of the players

841
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: that we drafted this past year they've made contributions, many

842
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: of them immediately. Um, you know, there's a lot of

843
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: them out there. They're making plays. And I believe in Sherman.

844
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people, you know, I always

845
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: bring up the social media g ms. They're always saying, oh,

846
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: Sherman's got to go, you know, all this stuff, all

847
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: jumping ship. Really, but I think Sherman's got potentially. He

848
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: comes from you know, the Vikings. They did well on offense,

849
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: they had weapons. I mean he he was successful with

850
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: Kate Keenam at quarterback. So I mean, um, you know,

851
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: obviously nothing against Kate Keenam, but he's not you know,

852
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees type of guy. He

853
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: look the bottom line, Dylan, and you're right, you cannot

854
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: judge a general manager in a quarterback off of half

855
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: a season, when you're coming off a year when the

856
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: team went three and thirteen it's just it's just not fair. Yeah,

857
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: And it's not fair. And the other thing is when

858
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: you're looking at this roster and you you've counted it,

859
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: and it's probably John I agree, and probably more than

860
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: that that they've played and even you know, we're probably

861
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: what you said, you gotta look at what who the

862
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: roster is, this roster is. You've got a lot of

863
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: work to do here. I mean there's a reason they

864
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: changed almost the roster overcut weekend for guys that were

865
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: on the street. I mean that's significant. Yeah, so they

866
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do and your and

867
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: you can't judge these guys on seven eight weeks and

868
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta give him a chance, Okay. And

869
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: then when you look at it and you made a

870
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: good point. Your first three draft picks are playing well,

871
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Sequan Hernandez and yeah the killing Carter there you go.

872
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, it's it's those guys are having.

873
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: You have a return on your investment there, if you will,

874
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: and you hope that maybe going next year stockpolling a

875
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: lot of these draft picks and maybe it can you know, uh,

876
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: parlay into the same thing next year with your draft picks,

877
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: giving some some good contribution to the team, and even

878
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: some of those six and seventh rounders could even actually

879
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: start playing too. Oh yeah, And you know, I think

880
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: I kept thinking about it. I'm like, you know, what's

881
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: more disappointing last year or this year? And I mean

882
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: I think I think somewhat this year was more disappointing

883
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: just because I had we had you know, I spanned

884
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: so much, um, you know, so much faith and everything

885
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: like that. But I have I have more faith in

886
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: this team and the management and coaches moving forward than

887
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: I did last year because when um, you know, before

888
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: Rheese and maculdoo were fired, Um, I was thinking, you know, man,

889
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be a tough hole to

890
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: get out of. And I didn't I didn't know how

891
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: much faith I had. But moving forward this year, I

892
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: I have a lot of faith and you know, the

893
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: guys we have and the people that are in the

894
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: management positions and everything, because I feel like they're the

895
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: right people for the job. And the last thing I

896
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: wanted to say is I know a lot of people

897
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: and Sanders saying, well, let's see Kyle Loletto with see

898
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But honestly, I'm not even sure how

899
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: to approach that situation, because even if we let us

900
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: see snaps or you put him in there, he's still

901
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: playing behind that same offensive line. And I mean, I

902
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 1: don't see much difference that's going to happen. I really don't.

903
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: And putting in there, he's never had any you know,

904
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: NFL snaps. This would be his first career start, you know,

905
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: in his first uh NFL regular season action, you know,

906
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line. If he struggles, I mean, that's

907
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a fair evaluation for him, because

908
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: it's it's just you can't put anyone behind there without

909
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: um seeing some negative Dylan, Dylan, you're absolutely right, and

910
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: thanks a lot for the call. You put any rookie

911
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Jeff behind this offensive line the way it's playing, it's

912
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna be carnage. You're you're better off. And I have

913
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: another point to make real you're better but you're better

914
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: off with the Letta is getting him little pieces of games. Okay,

915
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: So you go to, you know, hey, we're getting blown

916
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: out in the third fourth quarter. Let's put him in,

917
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, rather than start the whole game and do

918
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: what that kind of stuff. So maybe that happens the

919
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: other thing is that Dylan, you you are when you

920
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 1: say I don't know if I'm more um discourage about

921
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 1: this year or last year. You're discour is you're about

922
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: this year because there was a lot of promise going

923
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: into this year, when when they what they did in

924
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: free agency, what you've heard about James Betcher's defense, and

925
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: what you thought about in Sequan and this offense, that

926
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line was going to be better. So that's

927
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: why you're disappointed, because it was put in front of

928
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: you at the beginning of the year that this was

929
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a decent year, not a great year. I

930
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: don't think any of us had the Giants making the playoffs.

931
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: I know I didn't. I didn't think that they would

932
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: be this bad. But the fact is that that's why

933
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: you're discouraged. But there is something to be looking forward to,

934
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: is that you know, hey, the way this is going,

935
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: they're going to get another high draft pick, and this

936
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: team has got to be better next year all the

937
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: way around, completely around, and the coaches will have another

938
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: year under their belt and some of the players that

939
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: are gonna be left over. John will be here too.

940
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: Remember John Marrige did say he's not sure it's going

941
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: to be a quick fix, and I think he might

942
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: be right. We'll see how quickly you can turn it around.

943
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: I think especially and some teams do. But it doesn't

944
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: happen all the time. And I think last year was

945
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: disappointed to Jeff from they're coming off eleven and five

946
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: last year. Oh no, I I get it. I'm just

947
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: trying to say, Okay, which one are you more? And

948
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be the people were more disappointed last

949
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: year because of what happened with Eli and that whole thing.

950
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: You know that, and so that might be, but it's

951
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: it's tough regardless. You could say I was more disappointed

952
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: last year. I wouldn't argue with you, but I'm just

953
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: trying to get you know, maybe one or the other.

954
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: And you have just on the defense real quick, you

955
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: know you throughout the number before um in eight games

956
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: they have ten sacks. In eight games, they have seven takeaways. Yes,

957
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to win football games that way.

958
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: And you're really you know, you you talk about, hey,

959
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the defense is doing okay, they're keeping them in games

960
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: and this and how much how much more would the

961
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: offense be in the game if they just had some

962
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: more fuel position and turnovers and you know things like that.

963
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean that could help. And then of course the

964
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: one that defense did give him in this game, the

965
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: fourth down past. That's that's correct, that's and and and again. Momentum.

966
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Momentum sometimes is a huge, huge asset, and when you

967
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: have it and you keep it, things good things happen.

968
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: But when you get a momentum play like they did yesterday,

969
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: defense got the ball a great hit by landing call

970
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: is a scoop by Vernon right down the field, close

971
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: football game, and the penalty to penalty absolutely, so the

972
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: momentum is there and where they do nothing. We wanna

973
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,880
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975
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: throughout the year, Art and West Palm Beach, Florida's um next,

976
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I bet you a lot more relaxed than everybody up

977
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: here in New York. I like to talk about coaching, Sure,

978
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: go ahead, what I see. What I see is not good.

979
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't see a good technique. I don't see the

980
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: technique that should be used for the type of players

981
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: that they have. Naturally, there you don't have five guys

982
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: who've been together more than a minute. But still what

983
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: I see from how Hunter doesn't cut it. It doesn't

984
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: cut it. Why don't we have zone blocking? Why don't

985
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: we play a twelve technique? You can't have a run

986
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: game if you don't have an offensive line. Now, talk

987
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: about talent, Okay, is our talent really that worse than

988
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: the Jets or the Browns or the lines? Old lines? Generally,

989
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: except for one or two, players are made by coaching

990
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: well or or in fairness, I will say this, two

991
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: out of the five giants that are starting this year

992
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: were either on the street this summer or on the

993
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: street last year. Door he was with the San frances

994
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: uh San Diego and he you know, they got rid

995
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: of him. Greco is a is a retread. Okay. And

996
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, I agree that that that you have to

997
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: have talent, but I don't see coaching. There are better

998
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: coaches out there that are all offensive line coaches. Not

999
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: talking about Sherman. You know, we can sit back and

1000
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: blame the players trump forever, okay, but you know, when

1001
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: you get to be a pro football player, there's not

1002
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of difference. Okay, And yeah,

1003
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: you go to find the right mix, but it's very depressive.

1004
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: A real quick, alright, real quick. I want to ask Jeff, Jeff,

1005
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: is there how big of a difference is there? Intel

1006
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: asked them, you know why the Googe Dave, the Google

1007
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: Amo you probably know are Look, Jeff and I are

1008
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: not going to look. Whenever you're playing that bad at

1009
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: a position group, everyone is going to be under scrutiny

1010
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: for the job they're doing. So I think what you're

1011
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: saying is fair, But it's not fair to say that

1012
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: if you're in the NFL, talent level is equal across

1013
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: the board. Yet because you're in the league, you know it.

1014
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: That's not especially not the office. I'm not going to

1015
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: comment on the office line because I never played it,

1016
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: but I will tell you that that that I think

1017
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: that I know Seawn O'Hara and deal good enough to

1018
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: know that they would they would disagree with you, because

1019
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: I look, we're looking at it. We're looking at the

1020
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: guys that are on an offensive line. That John said

1021
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: these guys are on the street last year, and then

1022
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: they got rid of one guy and then it's just

1023
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: there is a big difference. I mean, there's a these

1024
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: guys bottom line Yes, the coaches have to coach better.

1025
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: They really do, all of them, and how a Hunter

1026
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: is one of them. But you know what, you can

1027
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: only coach as much as you can. You think the

1028
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: guys have to play on Sunday. That's where the talent

1029
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: level comes in. And or I will say this the

1030
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: one thing that I will agree with you, and I

1031
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: think we've seen too many situations this year where they've

1032
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: given up sacks where it and especially was in the

1033
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: Dallas game where you had too many free runners. And

1034
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: that's something that I think you could probably point to

1035
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: preparation more than physical stuff. And I think that's where

1036
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: maybe you're on the right. Dallas through a lot of

1037
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: blitz is at that and I mean twist and stuff

1038
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: that they were not ready for. So that could be coaching.

1039
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: But you know whatever. Yeah, I'm not talking about past

1040
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: blocking right now. Okay, I'm talking about run blocking the

1041
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: scheme that they have. Okay, you'd like to see a

1042
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: little bit more zone in there if if it's they

1043
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: run plenty of zone though there they were plenty inside zone.

1044
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: Well look, okay, the only thing we can do is

1045
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: hope a better talents gain. You know, I can get

1046
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: it back and blame everybody. Okay. The truth though, is,

1047
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: though that coaching has to do with play, a motivation,

1048
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: play a selection, and to technique. And I don't see it,

1049
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: but we don't know. But see, I know you don't

1050
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: see it, but you're not. Also, you don't you're not

1051
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: on the you're not in the meeting rooms. You're not

1052
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: on you're not on the field. You don't know what's

1053
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: being coached. You might be sitting there, but you might

1054
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: be sitting in those meetings and going, wow, how is

1055
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: really coaching these guys good? A right? For example, we

1056
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: had people call out for years and say, oh, it

1057
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: was it was Pat Flaherty's fault that Eric Flowers never

1058
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: got it. Then it was Mike Hilary's fault and Eric

1059
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: Flowers never got it. Then it was how Hunters felt

1060
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: that Eric Flowers never got it. Well, well, but that's

1061
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: my point, though, coaches, and and and and our thanks

1062
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: for the call. We appreciate it. Thank you. Coaches can

1063
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: be telling these players how to do things a certain way,

1064
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: but it's up to the player. And I'm sitting next

1065
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: to a player right here to take it onto the

1066
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: field and do it. Question, I could tell you know,

1067
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: Brandon our producer to go out and do something that

1068
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: pulling the faith. If if he isn't capable of going

1069
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: out there and doing it, he's not gonna be able

1070
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: to do it. Right. No, that's absolutely right. And and

1071
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: that's accountability you have to be do you have to

1072
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: be to do things. And and and I told you

1073
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: John at the beginning when these teams there's one and

1074
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: seven and this is when things start to happen. That guys,

1075
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: you're not saying that this is what is happening. I'm

1076
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: just telling you from experience, this is what can happen.

1077
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: Is that people just don't care anymore. They're not looking

1078
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: at it. But I don't see that in this I

1079
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: don't have that sense. I do not have that. Last year.

1080
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: I had this sense about this time of the year,

1081
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: well what we learned last year. And it was actually

1082
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: the game where I figured out that, oh boy, you

1083
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: know this ship be sinking, this ship be seen, just

1084
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: ship be sinking. Yes, ship ship, I said. Ship was

1085
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: the Niner game when they went and played the Niners

1086
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: and C. J. Bethord destroy them. It's a problem that

1087
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: should not have happened. That was just coming out I think.

1088
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: I think how the Giants come back from this bye

1089
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: week will be very telling. And I feel like this

1090
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: group because I feel like the group that you know,

1091
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: the type of guys that shermour Gelman have brought in,

1092
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: even though the results haven't been there on the field,

1093
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: I think they won't let it get no, I don't,

1094
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: and I think they'll play closely against the Niners. I

1095
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: think they have a chance to win that ballgame. Um,

1096
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: maybe they won't. I mean I thought they would have

1097
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: a really good chance to beat the red Skins. You

1098
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: heard me last week. I thought they had a real

1099
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: chance when they were going to win. I thought I

1100
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: and I definitely had a chance. By the way, I

1101
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't feel that way handing into Atlanta. I didn't feel

1102
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: that way going against New Orleans. I thought because the

1103
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: Redskins struggled to score, that the Giants had have a

1104
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: real chance to win. And it wasn't that turnover inside

1105
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: the ten and that they run at the end of

1106
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: the game. Then yeah, I think they would have a

1107
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: real good chance. But that's why you play the football games, folks.

1108
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: Roy in South Carolina, he wants to talk about everything.

1109
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: What's up Roy? Everything? Well, you know you brought up

1110
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: the way that some of the mobile quarterbacks have been hurt. Yes,

1111
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: you hurt Gumby, he's gonna be. He can't get hurt.

1112
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: He's gonna be. If there's something about him, he's he's

1113
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: a free show. You would have think he got hurt

1114
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: by now right on the season, which is by the way, Roy,

1115
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned that's that yet. Thirty This is a

1116
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: guy that knows how to get rid of the football

1117
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: and you know, knows what's coming at him. Thirty one sacks.

1118
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: That is year. That is David Carr territory. And and

1119
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: he gets up and he and what does he do?

1120
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: He goes at it again, you know, and and one

1121
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: of those things that I you know, I wanted to

1122
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but

1123
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, like everyone, like you guys have said, and

1124
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: David has said, Paul has said, you know, these guys

1125
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: have been together for eight weeks plus training camp, and

1126
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: we've had we've got some we've got some seasons that's

1127
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: on there who you know, are just are missing, missing

1128
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: their tackles, missing their blocks. So it's an overall systemic problem. Uh,

1129
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: just like you guys said earlier. You know, there's it's

1130
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: it is a team issue, and you know, I think

1131
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: there is. I think there's also some coaching issues too.

1132
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I everybody wants to get rid of Elie.

1133
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: I know. And just like you said, uh, you know, John,

1134
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and put pull the letter in there. What's

1135
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: gonna happen. He's gonna get crushed or he's gonna throw

1136
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions. That is all correct. Yeah, And

1137
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: so you know, I think I think I think Giants

1138
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: fans need to take a breath and realize, Okay, yeah,

1139
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: we're one in seven. Okay, uh, we're not going to

1140
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: get a playoff pos issue, but we have you know,

1141
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: it's our team, so we need to look at you know.

1142
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: Like and I had a conversation with a guy last

1143
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: night after the game, and you know, he says, I

1144
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: bet they bring a little letter in after the after

1145
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: the bye. And I said, and I said, the same thing. Well,

1146
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, if they bring him in, what's he going

1147
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: to do with the old line? Yeah, Roy, here's the thing.

1148
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: I understand the concept of one to get a look

1149
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: at the kid, and I have no problem doing it.

1150
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: But I think that but I think there's a group

1151
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: of people out there that actually think that's going to

1152
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: help them win football games. And I think that's the

1153
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: part that's misguided. And that's where my friend was. He said, oh,

1154
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: a little he could, he could bring us some wins.

1155
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm looking at him, and I'm going,

1156
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: have you not seen the way our offense that's played.

1157
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: Have you not seen how our receivers have have dropped balls?

1158
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: Have you not seen how how um gets the ball?

1159
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: And he's he's tackled three yards behind the old line

1160
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: because the old line just kind of it's like the

1161
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: rent safe for God's say, Roy, Roy, thanks a lot, man,

1162
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: we gotta run now. I appreciate it. We're okay, We're okay.

1163
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna be all right. I think, jeffitely,

1164
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: this is I think this is therapeutic for me today. Good.

1165
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad for you a little bit. Why I get

1166
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: away this is the problem with this is that this

1167
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: is a reoccurring theme. I know. That's why it's annoying,

1168
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: and and and that we're running out of answers. We

1169
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: really are. We don't have the answer that you're looking for.

1170
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: We're just asking for comments to help us find it.

1171
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know. I'm sure that Len might

1172
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: be able to give us one. By the way, if

1173
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: you a little one next and if you think, by

1174
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: the way that Barkley does enough time room to run. Now,

1175
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: can you imagine how many guys are gonna get put

1176
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: in the box of Kylo let us in the starting quarterback,

1177
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: and how many blitzes that poor kid's gonna say and

1178
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: he's aren't even But folks, keep this in mind. Teams

1179
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: aren't even blitzing now. They don't have to. They're sending

1180
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: four and they're getting there if you because they know

1181
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: what you. I can read a blitz and get rid

1182
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: of the ball quick and get it out. If you

1183
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: put a rookie back there and teams start bringing the

1184
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: house and stack the line of scrimmage, you're talking about

1185
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: third and long, good luck. Yeah, No, I think it's

1186
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: it's like it said, if you're gonna bring a guy

1187
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: like this in, it's gotta be just spot play. It's

1188
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: gotta be here there, you know, just at the end

1189
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: of the game. And again, if you get to the

1190
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: end of the year and you want to give the game,

1191
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: that's what you're going to see. Happening. That would be

1192
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: you know what. Look, I don't know what they're going

1193
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: to decide. I'm sure coach Shermer and they've gettlemen and

1194
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: the staff and maybe ef an ownership. They'll have the

1195
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: conversation over the bye week, and who knows, maybe they'll side,

1196
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: you know what, we want to give a little let

1197
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: of an extended period to see what he can do.

1198
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll do that. I don't know if they will

1199
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: or not. I really don't have a good feel for it.

1200
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: Jeff doesn't either. Um we'll say, but but all I

1201
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: can say is you want to put yourself in this

1202
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: situation that you were in the same thing last year

1203
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: with David Webb. You know, nobody want to see David Webb.

1204
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: You want to see and what do they do? They

1205
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: put in Gino Smith? Are you gonna put in Ryan

1206
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: Danny Alex? Excuse me, I'm sorry you think that's why?

1207
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: What are you gonna put him in? I mean, what

1208
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: does that? Do I know? And here's the thing I

1209
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: don't think. I think for at least the time being,

1210
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: they're still gonna want to try to put the players

1211
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: on the field that give them the best chance to win.

1212
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: At some point in time and when, and in my opinion,

1213
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: right now, and I think you agree with me, it's

1214
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: not the time. Eli Manning, still of the quarterbacks on

1215
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: this roster, gives the Giants the best chance to win football. Correct,

1216
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: There's too many other things that need to be fixed

1217
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: before you go down that road. And now if all

1218
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden a lot of this stuff gets fixed,

1219
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he likes starts turning

1220
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: into a turnover machine and he's doing things, then, but

1221
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: I gotta see the offensive line get fixed first. That's

1222
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: a bigger problem than Eli man And again we're not

1223
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: saying an El hasn't had his issues too. We're not

1224
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: absolving him a blame it. He'd be the first one

1225
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: to say that was a bad interception in the red zone,

1226
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: be the first one to say it correct. So he

1227
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: has his issues too. He has town a few more

1228
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: interceptions the last few weeks, so that's a problem also

1229
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: when he knows that and he's trying to get it

1230
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: cleaned up. But if you just take a line and

1231
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: you put a lot let it and it's not gonna

1232
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: help anything, if anything's gonna get worse, all right, Two

1233
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: one four five, one, three? Uh, do you want to

1234
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: do lendland last? What do you think? It doesn't matter?

1235
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: Let's do lend now Lennon Columbia and they lend Cheff.

1236
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean it doesn't matter. We're gonna get

1237
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: to you anyways, Lennon. I don't know if I want

1238
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: to hear you an hour later, but either one, it's

1239
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: okay with me. I'm just kidding. Good. Hey, listen, I'm

1240
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: not angry anymore. I'm not frustrated anymore, but you guys

1241
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: hit on it. I'm just really disappointed the way it's going.

1242
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: We're four and twenty one in the last twenty five guys. Yeah,

1243
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: that's just it's not giant football, man, you know that.

1244
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: And that's what makes everybody, like a lifelong fan like you,

1245
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: makes it hurt so bad. Is that that is not

1246
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: giant football. No, no, no, it's not. And you know

1247
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: the mistakes are killing us. Uh. I mean you look

1248
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: at the kid and one in at right tackle yesterday

1249
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: after Wheeler got hurt with the ankle, and uh, you know,

1250
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: trying to you know, trying to earn a job. Maybe

1251
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: it's not with us, maybe it's with somebody else. And

1252
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's off side on two plays and the

1253
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: pork kids sound place to buddhiston first and fifth, the

1254
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: pork and first instead of first and ten, and the

1255
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: pork is to go in one mistake after enough he

1256
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: is to go in and trying to block Ryan Carrigan.

1257
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, geez, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it was tough.

1258
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter about talent. I mean, I don't know what

1259
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: to say about the offensive line. It's really it's really atrocious.

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Speaker 1: But John, I think you, I think you hit it. Um.

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01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, you just you play your best players for

1262
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: the rest of you just get your best players out

1263
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: on the field. It's not preseason, it's not the off season.

1264
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: You got a pecking order at quarterback. We're not even

1265
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: talking about Tanny. I mean we jumped to the letter.

1266
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: You can't even get a uniform, you know. I mean,

1267
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: come on, let's let's let's be reasonable about this. Said

1268
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, you play your best players. I gotta I

1269
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: want to move forward. I didn't mean to interrupt anybody, nobody.

1270
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: I was just making the joint that this is this

1271
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: is talk radio. Reason has nothing to do with anything.

1272
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: Never has you go there. You go in fact, when

1273
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: you make a sports talk radio. It's even worse than

1274
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: that job. Yeah, exactly. Okay, hey, listen, a couple of

1275
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 1: things going forward. Um, there needs to be some sort

1276
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: of in these two weeks. You know, this this examination,

1277
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: self examination and also um, you know, peer evaluation by others,

1278
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, defensive coaches looking at offensive tape and saying, hey, listen,

1279
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: here's some things. Um, you know we can see and

1280
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: offensive coaches looking at the defense and same thing. And

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01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: and Jeff, I know they do that, and you know

1282
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: how to do as I do and it works well. Yeah,

1283
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: and it does it works well. But there and but

1284
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: there needs to be a rallying cry. There needs to

1285
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: be a rallying cry over these last eight weeks. It

1286
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: can't be just look, we got a game in San

1287
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Francisco on Monday night. Let's get on the plane and

1288
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: go to San Francisco and we come home. Uh, you know,

1289
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: we got a game. I don't know where we go

1290
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: after San Francisco. I guess it's a home game against Stampa.

1291
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the game. But there needs to be some

1292
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: sort of, um, you know, here's what we're trying to

1293
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: accomplish as a team, you know, led by the coaches. Here,

1294
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: here's what we're trying to accomplish in the last eight

1295
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: games of the season. The other thing, the other thing

1296
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: I want to suggest is you want you want to

1297
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: know what You got a call earlier today. It was

1298
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: a great call and the guy said something like new Ginnis.

1299
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: Let me give you some numbers. This this is startling

1300
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: to make of the fifty three man roster today. Thirty

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01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: eight of these guys weren't on the Giants last year

1302
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: and we're only through a half a season. Thirty eight

1303
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: of the fifty three weren't on this team. There's only

1304
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: fifteen guys from last year's fifty three one. Now there

1305
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: you go. How many wide receivers we're not on the

1306
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: team last year? One of those guys has been here

1307
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: three weeks. Fowler one has been here too, with Anderson

1308
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: one was here five days and we dressed them yesterday. Okay.

1309
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: One of the only one of the eight offensive linemen

1310
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: on the Giants last year, the senior citizen on the

1311
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: Giants one and a half years, Chad Will Hey, Len,

1312
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: how about this one? N I got one for you.

1313
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: Do you know who? Do you know who is the

1314
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: current street colder from most consecutive starts of the New

1315
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: York Football Giants. No, I don't take a guess. Take

1316
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: a guess? Uh well, how about Street Colder most games

1317
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: in a row? Jenkins is because he was at last year.

1318
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: It is Dalvin Tomlins, Thomas Goods, Oh my goodness, that's crazy.

1319
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: He's a second you player. Oh my good listen, and

1320
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: one other guys. Nine of the eleven defensive backs are

1321
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: new to the Giants this year. They Len Len real quick,

1322
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: real fast. Dave dominic are a second producer just asked

1323
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: me this trivia question. Do you who number two is

1324
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: on that list for most consecutive starts? Do you want

1325
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: to cry? Do you want to cry? Who know? But

1326
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: who is it? Eli Manning? Oh? Okay, and he sat

1327
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: out of the game last day? That dig up right. No,

1328
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: they bring guys in on Monday and Tuesday. I hope

1329
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: they keep doing that. But I think we need to

1330
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: get these fifty three. You know, let's get him in

1331
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: the room and say, guys, let's go forward together. We

1332
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: got us somehow. I mean the changes. I know there's

1333
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: injuries now. Of course, injuries change everything. Obviously you got

1334
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: to bring in a new guy. But hey, look let's

1335
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: let's just go with what we have here, established some

1336
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: sort of rally and cry real quickly, let me tell

1337
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: you a story. Walter got hit the manage the Orioles.

1338
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: They were terrible, almost as bad as they were this year.

1339
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: So they got to the last thirty games of the season,

1340
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: and what Buck did was create a new division, the

1341
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: six worst teams in baseball. And he said, guys, let's

1342
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: win this division over the next thirty games. Like, all right,

1343
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: that's something that yeah, I mean, does it does work?

1344
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: We gotta go down. That's a good idea, you know.

1345
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: And for anything, Hey, let's just you know, try to

1346
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: be better than we were last year. So we need

1347
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: we need four three more wins than we did last year.

1348
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: We were. We are way over, Jeff, I want to

1349
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: make sure I get the doors. You gonna get to

1350
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: Norris and Brooklyn Norris finish this up here, pal, it

1351
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: was up guys on the last guy actually hoping. I

1352
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: was actually hoping that you guys would choose me before

1353
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: Lens because I know his stories take a while. But

1354
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: really quickly, all I want to speak on was hopefully

1355
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: next year we do get a good draft pick. I

1356
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: think at this point in the season, we're probably out

1357
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: of place pretension. I mean, we have to probably win

1358
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: out the rest of the season to have a chance.

1359
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: At this point of season, it probably doesn't make much

1360
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: sense to win too many more games because it was

1361
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: kinna lower our chances of getting that draft because we

1362
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: need but obviously they're gonna play because, like you said,

1363
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: to rest careers and lives and stuff like that. But

1364
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning, I don't think we necessarily need a

1365
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback because I know for the past couple of

1366
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: weeks that's kind of been the argument, like, oh, do

1367
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: we get a mobile quarterback and something like that. We

1368
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: kind of need a little bit of like a capability

1369
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: because I just kind of feel like there we are

1370
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: situations where I don't you know, I get into all

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: the time with my friends and we're like blame me

1372
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: live back and forth whatever. We don't want to really

1373
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: blame me lie anymore. But he's as a quarterback the

1374
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: persons the ball and pin every play. He's not really

1375
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: doing anything to get us out of the situation, you

1376
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's playing um the position and

1377
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: he's doing with the coaches asking, but he's not like

1378
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: doing that extra thing that get can help us win

1379
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: the game, making that extra play that we really get

1380
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: us over the top of, which is kind of where

1381
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: we're at right now, because I mean, look at all

1382
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: the games we've lost, really only the division games have

1383
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: been real shellackings, and every other game we've been right

1384
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: there in contention, and it's just been those two players

1385
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: that we missed. So I think a capability is going

1386
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: to be something that woking for in the draft. Um,

1387
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: when it comes to Justin Herbert, I was watching him

1388
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: because obviously I'm thinking about, you know, our next quarterback,

1389
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: and he looks good. Um, hopefully Pat shermer Ken. You know,

1390
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: if we do get to draft this guy, because we're

1391
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: one of the worst records of a team looking for

1392
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but we do dropt the player like him.

1393
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: Hopefully passion we can get him in a situation where

1394
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: you can play right away, even though Eli Manning still

1395
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: has his contract till next year, because it would be

1396
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: a shame to waste some of the time. We have

1397
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: a really good young core with Columns and our receiver

1398
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: in the offense, and it would be a shame to

1399
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: have all these players and not really make any runs

1400
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: throughout a good amount of their prime. Um, so hoping

1401
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: that if we do get a quarterback, you know, he

1402
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: can be trained up. But my last thing, if we

1403
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: don't draft a quarterback with drafting a d be a

1404
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: good decision for us being before yes, no question. Remember

1405
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: remember usually the way I like to classify guys Norris

1406
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 1: in these drafts now is edge rush shot or interior lineman. So. Um,

1407
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: remember the Giants run of three four, but they're a

1408
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: nickel and dime sixty seventy of the time anyway, So

1409
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: that guy is going to have his hand in the

1410
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: dirt on passing downs most of the time. Anyhow, So

1411
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,839
Speaker 1: you get an edge rusher that can get to the quarterback.

1412
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't care if you stand it up. I don't

1413
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: care if you guys hand the dirt. You get that

1414
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: player here. Yeah. So then so the Nick so or

1415
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert who was nineteen, let's make it happen. I

1416
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: appreciate it, buddy. Good good to hear from your thanks.

1417
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean Nick Bosa, I mean, if he plays anything

1418
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 1: like his brother, I'll him in you know. So, But

1419
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: I think this is a conversation that we're gonna have

1420
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: down the road. And and you know, we can't talk

1421
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: about this now because we just don't know, but it

1422
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: has to be discussed. We don't know how many wins

1423
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 1: the team's gonna finish with, and before this game, I

1424
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: thought they could get up six, I think. And the

1425
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: other conversation we're gonna have is we're gonna have about

1426
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,440
Speaker 1: the sequence of Okay, if you draft the number one quarterback,

1427
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: you know what people are gonna want him in next

1428
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: year if Eli is still here, and you're gonna have

1429
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 1: that always like, oh, put him in, put him in.

1430
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: So there's got to be a succession plan. And we

1431
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: don't know if even Herbert's coming out, in which case

1432
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna That's why I said we're going to have

1433
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 1: this down the line. And then you have the Alabama

1434
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: in coming out that year too, and he's damn good.

1435
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: They declare, they have to declare sometime before the first

1436
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: of February something like that. I think something like that,

1437
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: right declaration day. So it's it's day's gonna check that form.

1438
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: So it's pretty pretty close to after the NFL season

1439
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: and Brandon, when I say you should do better, that's

1440
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: the type of stuff that what's going on? Huh? And

1441
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: now we did. But wherever it gets the time right,

1442
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: So forget about it. End is the best. We're just

1443
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: we're just busting on. He was a great job. Um.

1444
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we'll say again he won't be at

1445
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Um, we will be at the Senior

1446
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: Bowl again, I believe, which because he can't be at

1447
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: the Senior but he's only a junior, that is correct. Um,

1448
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: And he was hurt his first couple of years, only

1449
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: played eight games in his first two seasons. I think

1450
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: he let it. I think he has some injuries, but

1451
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: it's been healthy. Even though you declare yourself coming out

1452
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: as a junior, you still can't go to the Senior Bowl,

1453
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: that is correct. They were considering changing the rules to

1454
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: allow some of those thirty year players to go, but

1455
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't think those changes are going to go into

1456
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: effect this year. January January than, yeah, okay, that's pretty early.

1457
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: It could be Unlassman January. I was. I knew it

1458
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: was sometime in either late January, mid late January, or

1459
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: early February. So that sounds about right. So we'll know

1460
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: about two and a half months. Ten weeks. Of course,

1461
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: there's eight more football games to play and By the way,

1462
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: I don't remind you on the BBK schedule this before

1463
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: we say goodbye, and we gave you some nice bonus

1464
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: content today. The more Jeff Feagles we can get that.

1465
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: We love Jeff No, but we got Jeff here, which

1466
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: has been great. Um, we'll have the show tomorrow that

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Speaker 1: will be Salzburg Datino. Then Wednesday that'll be Salzburg and deal.

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Speaker 1: We will be off Thursday and Friday, no show time

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Speaker 1: off for us, sorry, and then we'll be back on

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Speaker 1: Monday again. Me and Paul I have Dame Bruegler from

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Speaker 1: the Athletic to talk some draft next Monday, to kind

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Speaker 1: of give the lay of the land at the halfway

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Speaker 1: point of the NFL season. I will be in sunny

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Speaker 1: Florida next Monday if anybody wants to join me. Who's

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Speaker 1: Miami plan? We have Duke? Oh, Duke's pretty good this year,

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Speaker 1: right they are? By the way, Duke is a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that could be a second round pick, end of the

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Speaker 1: first round pick. And here part a Miami alive all right,

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Speaker 1: And now now Dave's gonna kill me. So four Jeff Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Schmilka. We'll see you next time. A big

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