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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. God Jaguars, Well Pergnade,

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Speaker 1: the draft, the TARSI gonna win. There's still It is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: January nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and now Jacksonville's

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Speaker 1: Rick looco Man Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick Jeff

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Speaker 1: Flagman reporting for duty. But you're with us tonight here

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is with us or will be with us

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Speaker 1: at some point. Here's what we're getting to tonight. NFL

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Speaker 1: coaching hires. It's that time of year in baseball they

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Speaker 1: call at the hot stove when players are moving around

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Speaker 1: and all that. We're not going there yet, but now

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Speaker 1: the NFL coaching hires are being made. We'll go through

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Speaker 1: some of those Jaguars quarterbacks. One certain quarterback, speaking of RVs,

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Speaker 1: is starting a road trip. We'll discuss that coming up.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk defense and scheme possibilities. And there's all this

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Speaker 1: does that even mean and what would that mean in

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Speaker 1: building a football team? Will I hear from logs on

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Speaker 1: that will take a look around the NFL playoffs weekend.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get much better than what was last weekend.

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Speaker 1: Two overtime games, wild Card weekend. Yeah, the uh And

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Speaker 1: The statistics are incredible. Forty one of the top fifty

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Speaker 1: it feels like it's like that every year. Though it's

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers. While everybody else and their radiance

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Speaker 1: something that I absolutely loved the playoff games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: We'll break all those games down. I'll review all the

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Speaker 1: So what you do with they're coming up? Your preview

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Speaker 1: the divisional playoff games that's coming up this weekend. Coaching

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Speaker 1: Tony what's where are you? I'm out of town. I'm

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Speaker 1: don't know who else traveling with him, but I mean

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Speaker 1: a van. This was recent. Who's that? Yeah Howey he

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Speaker 1: bought like, he equipped this van and he sold all

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, and w l e Y. Joe Hall

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Speaker 1: I wonder what he's doing now because that was what

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Speaker 1: a year or two ago? I bet you he's still

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Speaker 1: doing that. Good for him. That doesn't sound very much

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Speaker 1: fun like the that. The Amitsu RV sounds great. The

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Speaker 1: two thousand seven three fifty cargo van not so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: home with you, I'd rather have the and RV is

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Speaker 1: the bathroom, just to pens it. Just if you're staying

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Speaker 1: in motel hotels, I'll take the van. Okay, if you're

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Speaker 1: RV right right, you know they'll keep the lot on

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Speaker 1: for me. Two seven what's years to go? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I mean maybe. I mean, you know, I have

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Speaker 1: new motor in and I don't know, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Good for mention. I mean when you

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Speaker 1: was years old, go for it, man, I mean, no wife,

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Speaker 1: no no responsibility, go for it, man. Absolutely. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like you're still get a little work into which is nice.

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Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, I mean this is a look. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look if he takes two or three weeks off to

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Speaker 1: do a road trip, okay, is he the number one

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the depth chess right now? Yes, Tony absolutely

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Speaker 1: without a doubt question. But but I want to say

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Speaker 1: this because I've talked about this a little bit last week,

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Speaker 1: and that even though he's number one on your depth

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Speaker 1: depth chart, doesn't mean that you're satisfied with where you

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Speaker 1: are at that position. So and I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people say, well, look at his numbers compared to

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Speaker 1: the top draft picks, and you know the quarterback in

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Speaker 1: New York, quarterback in Arizona, and his numbers are better.

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Speaker 1: So if you were first round pick, we would be

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Speaker 1: extremely excited about Gardner Minship. Yeah, but it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that you just say we've got that position solved, We're good.

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Speaker 1: You can't. You mean, you don't do that until you

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Speaker 1: until you know and it's proven that you have a

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Speaker 1: franchise guy, you continue to look and you don't stop

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Speaker 1: looking until you have proven to have a guy. And so, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about Minshew because there's essentially no skin in

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Speaker 1: the game. He's a six round pick. Do you know

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Speaker 1: if if he turns into a franchise guy, wow, I

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Speaker 1: mean awesome if he doesn't six round pick, right, But

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Speaker 1: if you treat it as if he's our guy, may

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Speaker 1: end up making you make another mistake. H and you

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Speaker 1: you you you made a mistake before by overvaluing the

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Speaker 1: quarterback that you had in Blake Bortles. You cannot do

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Speaker 1: that again. You cannot make that mistake again because if

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Speaker 1: you if you have that attitude, then it's gonna end

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Speaker 1: up having missed opportunities that follow Could you argue they

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Speaker 1: did that a little bit with Folds too, overvalued what

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Speaker 1: he was going to be. Not that you could even

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Speaker 1: predict what happened this year? But or is it that's

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Speaker 1: just the cost of doing business and free agency sometimes? Right? Well,

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Speaker 1: they obviously overw you know, if he's not the starter

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Speaker 1: and you're guaranteed fifty million dollars. I mean that's but

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Speaker 1: as far as what Jeff's talking about, something different there.

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Speaker 1: Jeff's talking about overvoluing and quarterback. So you don't pick

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Speaker 1: one last year instead of picking when they went in

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Speaker 1: free agency, and that's fine. So they are they were

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Speaker 1: trying to address the quarterback situation and they drafted one.

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Speaker 1: And minshew what Jeff saying moving forward, don't if you

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Speaker 1: see a franchise guy and you think and call that

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Speaker 1: in the college, Jeff, and you think he's the guy,

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Speaker 1: don't pass on him until you know you have the

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Speaker 1: guy in your building. And I agree with Jeff, I

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Speaker 1: think it's too early to say Gardner Minshew is a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback that's gonna lead this team to a super Bowl. Really,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna know hopefully after this year? I mean,

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Speaker 1: and what happens with the full mean, I know we're

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Speaker 1: talking Minsh. You have a year, but Ham's with folds

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Speaker 1: this year. I mean, we're not going anywhere here. You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't afford to cut him. And somebody's got a

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Speaker 1: trade for you can't cut them. I mean you can

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Speaker 1: if million dollars, I mean, I think the cap savings

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Speaker 1: on class Marcel Darius a J boy A, I think

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Speaker 1: that's right around forty seven million. So could you could

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Speaker 1: you make it work? Sure? Yeah? But guess what you're done?

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Speaker 1: You're done. There. He goes your free agency right there.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And so the under expects to win? Now,

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Speaker 1: is that the route you're gonna take? New, new, New,

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Speaker 1: And here's here's the other thing. Ah, if Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: is the backup at twenty two million a year, is

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Speaker 1: it ridiculously crazy to have a backup at twenty two

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Speaker 1: million a year. Yes, but it's better to have a

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Speaker 1: backup than no backup and just a bunch of dead

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Speaker 1: cats being eaten up for a god that's not even

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Speaker 1: on your roster. So you know, I mean, you need

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. You have to have a backup. Why would

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Speaker 1: you cut? I mean, you know it's a sun cost,

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Speaker 1: like you paid folds the money, So it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. So just you know, if he if he

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Speaker 1: can't beat out Minchew, then keep him as the backup.

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Speaker 1: I mean most put it this way, most teams. If

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Speaker 1: you lose your starter pretty most part, you're done. Now

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Speaker 1: you lose a franchise guy, You're you're pretty much done

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Speaker 1: that year, you know, for as far as but with

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Speaker 1: the nick Foles, I mean, are you are you done?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's proven to be arguably the best plays

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But I mean he's proven that he was

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Speaker 1: arguably the best back up in NFL history. So and

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's what he's gonna be because

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Speaker 1: I I can't read the tea leaves. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: he comes back and uh and with the off season

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Speaker 1: and staying healthy and he clearly shows he's better than Minshoe,

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Speaker 1: and then he leaves this team to great heights. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe it happens, he would easily be the highest paid

544
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Speaker 1: backup in NFL history. What happens if he wins the job,

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00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: then he wins the job. So I mean that's I thinkup. Nope,

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Speaker 1: So I think you approached it as if minshow is

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Speaker 1: the number one. But the reality is that players compete

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Speaker 1: every day and jobs are open, even though they're not

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Speaker 1: reported to be open or as an quote unquote open competition,

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00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: the reality is that every position is open because if

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Speaker 1: a coach sees that JP is better than me at

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Speaker 1: doing something, then coach is not stupid. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: he's trying to coach and coach well so that he

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Speaker 1: can keep his job and to have a better team.

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Speaker 1: So look, coach will replace me with JP if you're

556
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Speaker 1: better than me at whatever match. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: It's getting that time of year, the pre draft process beginning.

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Speaker 1: All the early All star games are this next week

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Speaker 1: and then the Senior Bowl coming up the week after that.

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Speaker 1: Here are the quarterbacks that have accepted invitations to the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. This here we'll see if any of these

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Speaker 1: guys do anything for you. Jaye Patterson Michigan, Stephen Montes Colorado,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts of Oklahoma and formerly Alabama, Justin Herbert of

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Speaker 1: Oregon just accepted his invitation the other day to mobile

565
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Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon at Washington State, and Jordan's love of Utah State.

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Speaker 1: Of course, seniors or graduated players are the only ones

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Speaker 1: invited to the Senior bowldest does not include to a

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Speaker 1: tongue of baloa. Jake from who is just yesterday announced

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Speaker 1: that he's going to the NFL from Georgia, and Um

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Speaker 1: the LSU quarterback who still has a game to play.

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Speaker 1: In fact, any of those guys do anything for you? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's wait too early. I mean, Jalen Hurts, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: to me. He's such a great athlete in the way

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Speaker 1: that then I think you can play today in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and I think you have to be able to buy time.

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Speaker 1: And he is a good arm. I don't I would

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Speaker 1: want to watch his accuracy. Herbert has the big arm

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Speaker 1: in organ, but he has accuracy issues. Um and then

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the other guys enough to make any comments.

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00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: We'll see if they don't think they'll add anymore. Before

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks from now, let's come back defensive

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Speaker 1: here he goes that, Oh, are you stirring it up? JP? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logoman, Tony Beselli. The offseason is

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Speaker 1: upon us. Who we are a bunch other teams are

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Speaker 1: playing playoff games. We'll get to those coming up this weekend,

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Speaker 1: the divisional games. We'll recap the wild card games from

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Speaker 1: a wild wild card weekend from last week. But first,

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Speaker 1: let's flip the defense. And there's all this, you know,

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Speaker 1: social media talk. If you're you're into that, I know

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Speaker 1: Tony's into that, is your logs. You're a big Twitter guy,

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Speaker 1: I know you are. You're all over this thing. But

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Speaker 1: what would it take to change to a three four

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Speaker 1: defensive scheme? How difficult is that change? Do the Jags

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Speaker 1: have the personnel to get it started? What holes would

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Speaker 1: they have to fill? How close were they last year?

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Speaker 1: They had moments where they showed it early I think

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, right So how far away are they

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Speaker 1: if they were to do that? I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: think any team is that far away from from being

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Speaker 1: a three or four team if you're a four three

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Speaker 1: or if you're a four three team, vice versa. So

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Speaker 1: they had they had it in their inner package this year,

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Speaker 1: and we saw it little glimpses of it throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: It kind of faded away more so at the end

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Speaker 1: because you had the issues that with injuries that linebacker.

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Speaker 1: And but I mean, I will say this, and that

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Speaker 1: looked to play a three four, what you have to

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Speaker 1: have typically is four really good linebackers. And right now

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Speaker 1: you have to and that's assuming in Goquay is back

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Speaker 1: on our contin So um and Miles Jack could he

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Speaker 1: be one? Yes, he could be one, and uh if

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Speaker 1: he gets back to his level of play, obviously better.

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Speaker 1: But when you have four really strong linebackers, it makes

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Speaker 1: sense to probably play some more three four principles. Nobody

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Speaker 1: plays the old school three four that I saw when

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Speaker 1: eighties and early nineties, and that's kind of become almost extinct.

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Speaker 1: Most teams that play three four nowadays are playing the

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Speaker 1: three four. That is a gap scheme because the old

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Speaker 1: school people that they think of the three four is

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Speaker 1: is a re defense and it's not a true gap scheme,

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Speaker 1: but the three four it's a two gap scheme. Now,

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Speaker 1: the old three four was a two gap where you

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Speaker 1: had the two defensive ends and a nose tackle. That

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Speaker 1: we're playing a noose tackles playing the center down the middle,

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Speaker 1: and then the ends were playing the tackles down the

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Speaker 1: middle and then the linebackers were over the guards, the

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Speaker 1: two hammer heads as far as linebacker. But but nowadays

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Speaker 1: the three four, everybody's on a gap. So it's not

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Speaker 1: that big of a change to go from three four

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Speaker 1: to four three or four three to three four. So

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Speaker 1: could they do it? Yes? I think this team needs

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Speaker 1: to worry about first off right now is finding the

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Speaker 1: personnel to play either one. Yeah, Because I mean I

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Speaker 1: think once you find the personnel to play good defense,

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Speaker 1: you can play a three four or you can play

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Speaker 1: a four three. And I think that they probably would

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Speaker 1: have shown more three four this past year if in

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Speaker 1: Goquay had been president in training camp and they had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to maybe get him more reps. And then

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Speaker 1: the injuries obviously deralped some of that. So what is

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Speaker 1: the JP? What is outside of it being the offseason?

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Speaker 1: You're looking for topics to talk about? What is the uh?

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Speaker 1: What is what? What is pushing or what what what's

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Speaker 1: pushing the conversation to go to a three? I think

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Speaker 1: that some of us thinking Quay stuff, you know, how

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Speaker 1: could you utilize him and maybe Alan a little more together?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that probably has a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with it. Well, here yeah, that's danger is though,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that, and that's fair, and you want

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Speaker 1: your best players on the field, and I think there's

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Speaker 1: ways to do that at the four three or three

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Speaker 1: four um. But just like we we throw these terms out,

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Speaker 1: like hey, let's just go to a three four, which

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Speaker 1: is so like it changes what kind of inside linebackers

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Speaker 1: you have, It changes your front You need big nose,

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Speaker 1: two big defensive ents that have a different skill set

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Speaker 1: than a four three guy typically. Um, And so there

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Speaker 1: is some um. I mean it's different though, Jeff, it's

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Speaker 1: not the same. I know, it's not a different much

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Speaker 1: too gap and there's more gap schemes. But still if

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Speaker 1: you go watch you know the Steelers are a straight

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Speaker 1: three four team. Um. The Patriots run a lot of

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Speaker 1: three four UM. And so you look at the teams

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Speaker 1: to do and there's more than just those. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a you have different body types of different guys

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Speaker 1: they are playing those defensive vents. If you had to

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Speaker 1: class Campbells perfect, okay, great, yeah, Campbell Tree. And well

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Speaker 1: when I say when I say that, I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: you never get that. But when I say, Cambels be

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Speaker 1: pretty good four three theme too. But you'll be like

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Speaker 1: a that body type, big strong, powerful, because when the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars play there for three, their defense has what they

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Speaker 1: call that strong side in that four B. That four

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Speaker 1: B is essentially he's a defensive end from a three four.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the principle behind it. So um,

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Speaker 1: so there's not a lot difference there. And if you

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Speaker 1: had obviously two plays like that type of build, big

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Speaker 1: strong guys that have a little athleticism. Claiss obviously is

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Speaker 1: way more athletic than most guys that have that type

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Speaker 1: of of build. But I mean Scotting Department, I got

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Speaker 1: it another Clas Campbell another one right now, six eight three.

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Speaker 1: He's so unique and that uh you know, I say

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Speaker 1: that when when I say that, I mean big, strong,

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny to say that because I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's ever been a guy that has

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Speaker 1: had plays as measurables that has played the game like him.

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Speaker 1: He's really unique. I mean, you think about six eight

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Speaker 1: and it's just a curse but different. But I was

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Speaker 1: four to six six six fifty ran four four. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking height, like, yeah, he was tall, but

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Speaker 1: he wasn't thick, Like no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he was. They played different positions the same guy. But

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Speaker 1: let me let me go back to when you were

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Speaker 1: you were talking about three four and four three stuff,

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Speaker 1: Just to go back to that just for a minute

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Speaker 1: and think about it based because that's a base defense.

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Speaker 1: That's when the offense is in one tight end, two

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Speaker 1: back and two wide receivers. You're only playing based defense.

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Speaker 1: What is it, thirty five percent of your defensive snaps

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Speaker 1: on the season, and then once you're once you're past that,

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Speaker 1: then you're all sub And what sub is is your

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Speaker 1: with one guy walking around. It's like what we call

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Speaker 1: a spinner package, which in Goakwai did sometimes with the Jaguar.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I I understand and I appreciate a

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Speaker 1: the reality is that's just that's the smallest percentage of

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Speaker 1: the defense if you were to compare base defense versus

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Speaker 1: sub defense. So, I mean, what's all the hoop law about,

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Speaker 1: you know? I mean, this team needs to worry. This

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Speaker 1: and yelled at at one of the reporters and kept ongoing.

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00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: And it applies this week as well. That first big

847
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: game that he's won, I mean the biggest game that

848
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: he's won, the playoff game and sent what Saints packin

849
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: and had a little bit of a controversial call or

850
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: non call there at the end of the ball game,

851
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: and it's right, Hey, what's the reaction in Minnesota this week? Totally?

852
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: You're up there right now there. Everyone's excited, big big

853
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: stuff up here on all the radio and everything else,

854
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, and uh, they feel like they've

855
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: got a pretty good chance. It's actually the game I'm

856
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: doing this week too. I'm going to San Francisco tomorrow

857
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: for the game, uh and looking forward to seeing it. Uh. Minnesota,

858
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: when Dalvin Cook is healthy and running the way he

859
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: did against New Orleans is tough because they're they're built

860
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: off the playoffs and passed and that's when Cousins plays

861
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: his best football. So I think it'should be a really

862
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: close game. Every game San Francisco has played as of

863
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: late has been come come down to the fourth quarter,

864
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: one possession type, one possession style games, and I don't

865
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: think this won't be any different. Yeah, and credit to

866
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense. I mean they were good. They were really

867
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: good in that game and and did a great job

868
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: with making it tough on the Saints all day long. So,

869
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean you saw what they did, Jeff. They moved

870
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: their two defensive ends Griffin and uh Daniel did Neil

871
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: Hunter from outside and put him as three techniques and

872
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: rushed them inside and gave the guards of the Saints

873
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: all kinds of issues. And they really harassed Drew Brees

874
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: all day. And Griffin just he's a powerful guy and

875
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: and Hunter is an extremely athletic guy. So boy, and

876
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: I remember having a conversation with a couple different coaches

877
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: and they were offensive coaches, and I asked him, I said,

878
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: who is the most challenging defensive mind that you face?

879
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: And there was there was two that were pretty much

880
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: widely respected. One of them was Belichicked because I mean

881
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: he's a he's a defensive mind. I mean, even though

882
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: that they have a title, don't even have a title.

883
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't think this year with the defensive coordinator right

884
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: New England, but they've had it in the past. He

885
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: has essentially been the defensive coordinator for the most part,

886
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: got the other one has been has been Zimmer. Teams

887
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: and coaches think that what he does schmatically is incredibly challenging.

888
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: They always say that he's on points, especially on third down, trying, yeah,

889
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: trying to find a weakness to attack an offense that

890
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: he's considered the best. And so, I mean, that's a

891
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: perfect example what Tony's talking about about moving some personnel

892
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: guys and getting certain matchups. But uh, that's an interesting

893
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: That's gonna be an interesting game because Tony, right, and

894
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: that San Franz hasn't you know, blown the doors off

895
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: of anybody. And Minnesota has a quarterback who just won

896
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: his first big game and uh, canny do it on

897
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: the road once again. I mean, that's a tough task

898
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: bask So their finals on wild card weekend really one

899
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: of the best wild card weekends we've had in a

900
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: recent memory. At least Texans over the Bills in overtime

901
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: nineteen to Shawn Watson with a big day at the office.

902
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: The Titans and Derrick Henry knocked off the Patriots. Tony

903
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: you were at that game. Derrick Henry went for one

904
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: two touchdown. Beast, God, he was a beast. I was

905
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: texting driving the game and I was like, man, it's

906
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: a great matchup. It was a great football game. And

907
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry was awesome. And the offensive line they

908
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: blocked really well. They did a good job. But in

909
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: spite of all that, the Patriots only gave up fourteen points.

910
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: They're such a good defense. Make the passing game so hard,

911
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: and uh, the Titans, you know, as dominant as they

912
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: were running the ball, could not get into the end zone.

913
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: And it was a game until the pick six at

914
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: the end of the ball game when it was pretty

915
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: much over. Uh. And so really the story was as

916
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: much as well as Derrick Henry played. I thought that

917
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Titans defense was just outstanding. Yeah, they did a good job, tough,

918
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: and you know, were they that good or was the

919
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: Patriots offense just that lacking both combination? Do you really

920
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: believe the time he's gonna play somewhere else next year?

921
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. I mean, JP if if

922
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: David Tepper says, hey, look, Tom, we're gonna give you

923
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: three years, and we're gonna give you every resource We're

924
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna have your guys be on staff and

925
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: custom tailor everything we do to what you need to

926
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: run an offense. I mean, why wouldn't Tom Brady listen

927
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: to something like that? You know? I mean, here, here's

928
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: the reality. This, this is the first we were talking

929
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: about the greatest of all times being a free agent,

930
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time in a free Agent's not

931
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: like he won his last Super Bowl ten years ago either.

932
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, and uh, and look, I I'm not inside

933
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: to mind of Tom Brady, but I think there's probably

934
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: from the reports, there's probably a little bit on both

935
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: sides of Brady and Belichick of wanting to show that

936
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: they can do it on their own right. You know.

937
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: The feeling I get is that Robert Craft desperately wants

938
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: the Craft family desperately wants Brady back. I think both

939
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick are kind of like, you know, maybe

940
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: it's time to move on both of them. And so

941
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: you have Craft, who is the owner, is probably in

942
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: the middle of it, begging both of them to figure

943
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: it out. Uh, and not because the last thing you

944
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: want to see is if you're Robert Craft, is Tom

945
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: Brady in another uniform next year? You want him to

946
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: finish in your jersey and finish it the right way

947
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: as far as the legacy of what the run has

948
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: been and what the dynasty has been in New England.

949
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: And so he's gonna try desperately to get Brady signed

950
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: up in Belichick on board with it. But I hope

951
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: that both those guys are both those guys are kind

952
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: of like, make move on. Yeah, I hope that he

953
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: goes back, just because I mean, I don't I don't

954
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't want I mean, selfishly, I don't want to

955
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: see him in another uniform. But I also get it

956
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: that you know, there's there's business and business and and

957
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: here's the reality. Tom Brady has always taken a very

958
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: well below market value contract, well blow market contract for

959
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: his entire career essentially, and will the signs of money

960
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be somebody that's gonna throw a lot

961
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: of money at them because of what it can do

962
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: for teams, ticket sales and marketing and everything else. Oh

963
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: that's Tom Brady is human. You know you gotta listen.

964
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: Here's the divisional playoff weekend schedule. The Vikings at the

965
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: forty Niners, Tony, You're on that game Saturday at four

966
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: thirty five Eastern time, the Titans and the Ravens Saturday

967
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Night M and T Bank Stadium on the Inner Harbor.

968
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: And then Sunday the Texans and the Chiefs and Arrowhead

969
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Packers at Lambeau. What a weekend's

970
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna be? Who you like in these games? Tony? Quickly,

971
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: forty Niners Ravens. As I'm gonna go upset Seahawks, I'm

972
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: saying I'm going to the exact same. I think Seahawks

973
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: upset the pack in Lambeau, and I'm taking the favorites elsewhere.

974
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Mike Mlarkey retired from coaching today, twenty five years as

975
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: a coach in the NFL, including one as the head coach.

976
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: Your congratulations, good luck. Good for him, he's coming back

977
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. I'm sure he is to walk along the

978
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: beach you mind. Good for him. Uh, Tony, have a

979
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: great weekend, enjoy the trip to San Francisco. Tony was

980
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: selling is out of here, Jeff Logmans, out of here.

981
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm JP Shatter will catch you next time. Coming up

982
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: next to Doug Moron Show. This is the Jaguars Digital Network.