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Speaker 1: There you go. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 3: Locked in the location for the music video. So I'm
Speaker 3: filling Christine this morning.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 6: We don't want too many hangers on showing up.
Speaker 3: No, no, we uh you know what, Yeah, we could
Speaker 3: publicize it to the people. What makes this unique is
Speaker 3: so I got with my homeboy Cheese. Cheese is you know,
Speaker 3: wants to be a producer. That's like a big thing,
Speaker 3: like a film producer. And so me and Cheese is
Speaker 3: producing it together. And my videos are always like these
Speaker 3: intricate kind of like I always put a lot into
Speaker 3: a music video, like I always make sure it's something
Speaker 3: going on, Like I don't really got videos where I'm
Speaker 3: just out there rapping. Maybe that's somebody else's, but I
Speaker 3: really don't do that type of video, Like it doesn't fit,
Speaker 3: you know, me being a storyteller.
Speaker 1: So trying to schedule this one correctly.
Speaker 3: Because it's like it's such a posse cut, you know.
Speaker 5: What I mean.
Speaker 1: And there's more to people on the song, and then you.
Speaker 3: Need a lot of extras. You need a lot of
Speaker 3: extras to make it work. So I have to I
Speaker 3: have to kind of like be really good with time.
Speaker 3: Even some of the pre rollout content feel me like
Speaker 3: I needed that day with one specific part of this
Speaker 3: film studio. Mm hm, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I needed to stay on top of that. And that's
Speaker 3: the point when you know what to do, right, It's
Speaker 3: a lot. It's overwhelmed me, so you have to really
Speaker 3: delegate it. And as you organize it, you know everybody,
Speaker 3: you know, they they don't know everybody.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: You would like people to help, but you realize why
Speaker 3: you have to be a little bit more hands on
Speaker 3: with it to see the vision all the way through.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, It's just it's it's intense, bro, It's intense.
Speaker 3: And then you could do all of this ship right Pete,
Speaker 3: and a motherfucker won't even see the video.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy part.
Speaker 3: Like for canceled, I did some really dope videos and
Speaker 3: people just didn't see them.
Speaker 1: I remember the way you deal with baby Bash and
Speaker 1: didn't that one.
Speaker 3: That was the worst part. Not I didn't put him out.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about people didn't see them once I put
Speaker 3: him out.
Speaker 1: Oh okay.
Speaker 3: I'm not even talking about one you can't put out
Speaker 3: that just ain't good enough, Like one of the La
Speaker 3: Giants songs was like that I got. I got four
Speaker 3: videos in the can that I never put out, Oh okay,
Speaker 3: because they just wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: But you talk about once you put out that just
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough.
Speaker 3: No, they were good enough, but people just didn't see them.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you know what I mean, Like you not
Speaker 3: to market. Yeah, like uh tour was dope, was dope.
Speaker 1: Like I have some dope ideas and people just.
Speaker 3: Don't see them. So you could put this much into
Speaker 3: art and people just won't see it. So it's interesting,
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Speaker 3: the Black Effect Network and iHeart. So like putting all
Speaker 3: this together is like you, it's like a brain child,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, It's like you going
Speaker 3: over the top and you have to make people see it. Now,
Speaker 3: what good is being dope? If only two people know?
Speaker 3: That's kind of why. Like I don't agree with Kanye
Speaker 3: West and the stuff he's doing, but I get why.
Speaker 3: This is the type of tantrum he had to throw
Speaker 3: in his mind to make sure everybody see his art.
Speaker 3: That's my problem trap. I know why he's doing it.
Speaker 3: Now my issue is when it leaves this space of
Speaker 3: genuineness or things done in good faith. This is not
Speaker 3: done in good faith. You gotta no, because you know
Speaker 3: damn well, the Nazis and what's happening in the ghetto
Speaker 3: streets of America is completely different.
Speaker 1: So to even reference them to.
Speaker 3: Kitter, to that kind of Boulet type of black audience,
Speaker 3: or to white people who already feel like black people
Speaker 3: making excuses for why shit is fucked up for them
Speaker 3: in America is raggedy. That's my problem. My brother asked me,
Speaker 3: He's like, man, why do you want to fight Kanye?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, because he's one of my favorite people,
Speaker 3: and I know he's misleading people. Like the one thing
Speaker 3: I expect out of my top five boring.
Speaker 1: Ross why barn Ross?
Speaker 3: Because Ross shit is built on a fantasy, like it's
Speaker 3: built on a level of street urban culture, like people
Speaker 3: that's hustling in a certain way that come from these ghettos.
Speaker 1: But it's also more of a fantasy land. But snoop Jay.
Speaker 3: Face especially face, you know, and Yay, I expect nothing
Speaker 3: but things done in good faith, kay.
Speaker 6: Because nothing says good faith like Kanye West.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it's like, I know he knows there's a difference,
Speaker 3: or he maybe don't, which goes into the conversation I've
Speaker 3: been having with Trapp where I don't quite think he's
Speaker 3: at street urban culture as we would like to believe.
Speaker 3: I think because he said Chicago, we automatically, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: he gotta be from street urban because niggas, that's a
Speaker 3: black man from Chicago. And it's like, I think that
Speaker 3: part of it could also be maybe overinterpolated, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I think we're giving him a little
Speaker 3: bit too much credit. Sometimes it's hard. Like me and
Speaker 3: Trapp used to talk about this trap to think I'm crazy,
Speaker 3: but I think like parents like trapping them age lectioning
Speaker 3: them age. You know, this generation of parents, my generation
Speaker 3: of parents, like where I would be if I had
Speaker 3: a kid. They raised their kids completely different than we
Speaker 3: were raised. True that a lot of kids like like
Speaker 3: still Son, still kids, you know, shout out to my
Speaker 3: big brother. Still they don't really understand They don't really
Speaker 3: understand blackness the way we do. Now they're black and
Speaker 3: obviously you get that, but like they don't quite get
Speaker 3: it the way we get it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like like they really don't think it's really this racist world.
Speaker 1: Like the struggles we went through.
Speaker 8: Versus yeah, like not equited of it, like we knew it,
Speaker 8: like we we knew it, like we wasn't that far disconnect.
Speaker 1: We knew it, Like, man, motherfuckers. They more like, see
Speaker 1: I got equal opportunity. I was telling squish this.
Speaker 3: I'm like I was telling them, I'm like, my fear
Speaker 3: is poverty is disappearing because people don't really believe they're
Speaker 3: being oppressed.
Speaker 4: I think a conversational pivot has happened in wealth distribution
Speaker 4: conversations in general, where people went from complaining about being
Speaker 4: about complaining about the fact that they were poor to
Speaker 4: complain about the fact that another guy is rich. I
Speaker 4: think that's a pretty significant shift in tone.
Speaker 5: M Yeah, understood.
Speaker 1: I just he brought this topic up right, like can
Speaker 1: there be proud without shame?
Speaker 3: And it was such a unique, you know, conversation, and
Speaker 3: it's like that's like, that's like Kanye, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean that that made me think of him right,
Speaker 3: Like is he ashamed of himself?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: Like I think that I think he's smart enough to
Speaker 3: know completely right that Okay, if let's say he knows,
Speaker 3: Let's say he knows right, Let's say he knows. Does
Speaker 3: he know he's misleading people by trying to compare what's
Speaker 3: going on in the streets when it comes to crime
Speaker 3: and street up and culture that lifestyle with what the
Speaker 3: Nazis did, Like, does he really I cannot believe he
Speaker 3: doesn't know that they're completely different, like he got it.
Speaker 3: I think he has to know that these are two
Speaker 3: people fighting and you listen to people talking about fighting
Speaker 3: each other versus what specifically happened with the Nazis, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and Jewish people, Like he has
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 7: I think he's more so on on it to a
Speaker 7: level of them just profiting off the hip hop culture.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Can't you can't make something up? Trap what you think
Speaker 3: he's saying.
Speaker 5: He's saying that I was.
Speaker 6: To say that I was gonna say, like the Trap's defense.
Speaker 6: He's kind of gone.
Speaker 4: In two directions on that topic because there has been
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 6: Of Jewish corporate.
Speaker 4: You know, c suite discussions and also that you know,
Speaker 4: so there's this Jewish thing going on, but then there's
Speaker 4: also simultaneously this parallel between like racially defined violence and
Speaker 4: it just being the fact that there's there's between local
Speaker 4: and racially defined. But he's so there there are two dimensions.
Speaker 1: They're not even remotely close.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're close. I'm saying he's just said
Speaker 6: both of those things.
Speaker 5: He said both of.
Speaker 3: Them, but that's not what he's saying, like out to
Speaker 3: facts their exclusive legs with up Bros.
Speaker 1: Six Square staking for Moderae Tree. What's the deal? No, Cu,
Speaker 1: what's having a black team?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I don't think this current Nazi thing that he's doing
Speaker 4: now is a continuation of his Jewish corporate boardroom ownership
Speaker 4: thing from like last year or whatever.
Speaker 3: I think those No, he's doing that right now, he's
Speaker 3: tweeting it right now. He's specifically saying, he specifically said
Speaker 3: Jewish people are profiting from black pain. So why is
Speaker 3: he man that he's wearing black pain. It's like Nigga
Speaker 3: that is not remotely close to.
Speaker 1: The same thing. It's not even remotely close.
Speaker 7: What I'm saying is to the point of him saying,
Speaker 7: like they're profiting off of black pain, and which is
Speaker 7: which is the music he would rather off of?
Speaker 6: Black pain? Is what he's saying.
Speaker 1: No, he don't know, don't don't don't have a point
Speaker 1: neither this, Kanye.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 3: That's not what he's saying. I'm listening to what he's saying.
Speaker 3: You're hoping this is what he means, because you don't
Speaker 3: want to consider that it's just selfish and really don't
Speaker 3: have a bottom line or a point.
Speaker 1: And it's just really even.
Speaker 7: If it's about if it's about them profit enough of
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, people talking about killing each
Speaker 7: other and ship like that.
Speaker 5: Though the Jewish.
Speaker 1: Equivalent to what happened with Nazis and Jewish people.
Speaker 5: It's not, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.
Speaker 5: It's not a comparison.
Speaker 1: Hearing it is.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's using them in the same reference paragraph all
Speaker 3: the times. And then obviously he's catering to a bunch
Speaker 3: of black people, like a version of Boulet people or
Speaker 3: people who just don't know what else to do. So
Speaker 3: like Sherry, where they're just looking to they already mad,
Speaker 3: they already feel like, oh this is ignorant, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: And it's like, I cannot believe Kanye has no complete
Speaker 3: idea that these are two different PEPs. This ain't even
Speaker 3: like Israel versus Hamas or nothing like.
Speaker 5: This is different.
Speaker 3: So this morning I was talking to Doucemac, right, and
Speaker 3: Douchemac was saying, and Douce Mac was saying like he was.
Speaker 3: He was saying, like, there's a lot of rappers, a
Speaker 3: lot of rappers that are anti street, right, which they
Speaker 3: are anti people talking about how they had to come
Speaker 3: up or how they're surviving, right, whatever crime that is, right,
Speaker 3: And he was saying that they have such a problem
Speaker 3: with that type of artist, right, But then again they
Speaker 3: turn around and rap about the same things. They'll start
Speaker 3: rapping gun bars or violent bars, but they have no
Speaker 3: cognitive understanding of what that means. And he was saying
Speaker 3: it was a lot of rappers like that, and I
Speaker 3: thought about it, and even like A J. Cole, who
Speaker 3: I consider had one of the greatest twenty careers of all.
Speaker 1: Hip hop artists, Right, he'll.
Speaker 3: Say some things and I don't think he quite understands
Speaker 3: that that came from something real. He'll reference murdering in
Speaker 3: MC but he felt like, well, I'm doing it poetically, Nigga,
Speaker 3: That's not how it was intentionally created by the artists
Speaker 3: that decided to use that. And I was telling him,
Speaker 3: I remember when certifiers first came out, and it was
Speaker 3: like big Man like I said, Certified was like fifty
Speaker 3: six on the charts for some new watchcrip rap nigga
Speaker 3: on a big billboard high one hundred charts, right, And
Speaker 3: I remember I had a line in there, laughing at
Speaker 3: these rap niggas running from shug. That was one of
Speaker 3: the lines, right. And I remember my intention when I
Speaker 3: wrote that is to run in the shug like and
Speaker 3: I noticed I wrote everything I say with intentions to
Speaker 3: say it to the person that I'm talking to. When
Speaker 3: I rap, huh, what were you gonna say? The sugar
Speaker 3: nor from you?
Speaker 1: That's actually I did ask him that too. It's funny.
Speaker 3: But did you do a whole song It's called something
Speaker 3: like like shure, Yeah, a whole song.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But but but the point I'm saying is to peach point,
Speaker 3: like it's a bunch of people kind of You see
Speaker 3: a lot of people on the internet talking crazy and
Speaker 3: you could prove them in a lie, but because they
Speaker 3: don't have no shame, you know what I'm saying, it
Speaker 3: won't matter.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think it is with.
Speaker 3: These MC's, Like all these mcs who be anti street,
Speaker 3: but then they start using things that were popularized in
Speaker 3: the streets. But then you try to use them metaphorically
Speaker 3: or poetically. It's weird. Like I was telling somebody the
Speaker 3: other day who was I talking to. I was talking
Speaker 3: to Homie Champ and I was telling Champ. I was like, look, Champ,
Speaker 3: he was like, glasses.
Speaker 1: You don't think what was his term he said. He
Speaker 1: was talking to me about game.
Speaker 3: He said that don't bother you that, you know, something
Speaker 3: that caused the lives of so many young men is
Speaker 3: now you know, national and people are just picking it
Speaker 3: up and they're doing anything. And I'm like, no, I
Speaker 3: don't see it like as this thing that's just people die,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I see it that chilling
Speaker 3: with my homeboys, my homeboy teaching me how to fish,
Speaker 3: me trying to make money meat, Like I see more
Speaker 3: of the glass half full than the glass half empty.
Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, but you don't look at
Speaker 3: it frown on it. I'm like, I said, no, that's
Speaker 3: that's what you know, street urban culture is all about.
Speaker 3: That's what black people do when they get a hold
Speaker 3: of some culture, especially at the poorest levels, right, they
Speaker 3: do that. And I was like, that's like if hip hop,
Speaker 3: like imagine New York seeing me rapping, and they like, man,
Speaker 3: look at so West Coast nigga trying to rap nigga.
Speaker 3: You don't know, Like I don't. He's like, well, that's different,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm like, that's not different that like you
Speaker 3: you thought hip hop belonged to all of us, know,
Speaker 3: that was New York nigga shit.
Speaker 1: And then we got our hands on it.
Speaker 3: I said, So, what do I look like being upset
Speaker 3: that somebody's claiming grave street wats in New Jersey? I'm
Speaker 3: more flattered, you know what I'm saying. So I told
Speaker 3: him that's what we do. I said, imagine if taco
Speaker 3: stayed in Mexico, in just the poorest ghettos of Mexico,
Speaker 3: or if spaghetti stayed in the poorest ghettos of Italy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's what we do. That's what poor people do. We share,
Speaker 3: culture spread, we share.
Speaker 4: So random question in the macro because there's not data
Speaker 4: available to like research this, So just in your opinion,
Speaker 4: let's say, like of like violent street crime whatever, there's
Speaker 4: a certain amount that's priced in, and then you inject
Speaker 4: like intergenerational gangs on top of that. That's what I
Speaker 4: was kind of saying like on the pod yesterday or
Speaker 4: maybe it was off of back, I can't remember. How
Speaker 4: like you can be like sixties in there for three
Speaker 4: four generations, but like sort of little cruise in Oakland
Speaker 4: or Miamia are sort of they come, they go, they're gone,
Speaker 4: then the new people come a truck.
Speaker 6: Do you think that having gangs like that where you.
Speaker 4: Can like you can inherit a beef, but you also
Speaker 4: have stability, So is it a net positive or a
Speaker 4: net negative? And that like people will say, like a
Speaker 4: Tsadam Hussein was like a brutal leader, but shit was stable.
Speaker 4: You take him out and it goes crazy, you know.
Speaker 4: So like do you think relative to like what the
Speaker 4: priced in amount is that that actually reduces or adds to.
Speaker 6: In the in the macro like.
Speaker 1: Aggregate short be given to me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Do you think that having gangs that are perpetually there,
Speaker 4: you know, and that you come into a gang that's
Speaker 4: constant so people go out and people come in, but
Speaker 4: like the gang has its area, it's goddess people whatever,
Speaker 4: do you think that it reduces more like power vacuum
Speaker 4: violence so to speak, Then it creates by virtue of
Speaker 4: people coming into existing conflicts.
Speaker 3: Mm, well, so that's one of those things that's overstated.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: People don't really come into existing conflicts the way you
Speaker 3: would think.
Speaker 1: You're pretty much gonna have your own shit going on,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, shout out to the Black Team much love Black Tea.
Speaker 3: What up, John p Lex, show it up? Yeah, this
Speaker 3: show is dope. Dudes claiming Grape Street in New Jersey
Speaker 3: is extremely corny, not really bro okay, So, like this
Speaker 3: is gonna sound crazy because I understand the history of
Speaker 3: Grape Street, right versus y'all. Well, y'all like Grape Street, No,
Speaker 3: I understand when it first started, it's wat's video great?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: If you go to most of the older dudes from
Speaker 3: Gray Street that's in their sixties and seventies, all of
Speaker 3: them got w VG tatted on them. What's video great? Right,
Speaker 3: So that feels like it's Grave Street. But there's a
Speaker 3: layer and a difference of that particular group of men together.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: And then now they.
Speaker 3: Have ESK right east side kids and they have other
Speaker 3: gangs there. That's these are the gods that's in their
Speaker 3: fifties and sixties, right, and then so now here they
Speaker 3: are doing a thing blah blah blah. Great street forms
Speaker 3: right after the tail end of that when you hear
Speaker 3: people say great street wise, right, And then after that
Speaker 3: right comes this really popular expressing. Everybody heard baby Low
Speaker 3: cryp Right, that's guys that's in their fifties and forties
Speaker 3: ESK east Side kids, so forties and fifty right, baby
Speaker 3: low crip. Everybody heard them nigga say on baby Low.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a different but the same gang. So
Speaker 3: they're gonna have unique problems than the guys from Watch
Speaker 3: Body of grapead because they're a group of young men
Speaker 3: and poor people going around making their own legacy, trying
Speaker 3: to build their own name. So that situation looks different, right,
Speaker 3: does that make sense? And then after that, right, you
Speaker 3: got the guys that's my generation, right, the guys as
Speaker 3: and they that's in their forties, late thirties.
Speaker 1: Right, that's Peterole Dutch Town.
Speaker 3: So if you ever heard somebody like a great Street
Speaker 3: thing on Peterow or Da Da Da, that's another gang
Speaker 3: right there that's kind of in the same umbrella as
Speaker 3: the Grape Street moniker.
Speaker 1: The point I'm saying is it's not like one gang
Speaker 1: that goes in these same.
Speaker 3: Guys like the older guys won't have a problem with
Speaker 3: the Bonnie Hunters, but this generation got a problem with
Speaker 3: the Bonniehunners, you feel me.
Speaker 1: And then so it comes.
Speaker 3: Across like here it is all these guys beef, and
Speaker 3: it's not. If all these guys beef, the violence the
Speaker 3: crime wright will be way higher.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? You get what I'm saying? Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So it's like that's the same thing for Long Beach.
Speaker 3: Long Beach is for like in the insayings they have,
Speaker 3: you got the insagings, that's trade n of age, right.
Speaker 3: Then you got the guys that's my age, right, the
Speaker 3: Hammy Clint Sight, They youngs. I mean they youngs, right,
Speaker 3: Fred is a young I think Fred is from young Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: they're my age and younger. And then you got the
Speaker 3: generation like d W Flame uh uh sobby third babies,
Speaker 3: and they all kind of have their own ecosphere going.
Speaker 3: It's all kind of shit happening. What makes their movement
Speaker 3: unique outside of it? So I think where the concept
Speaker 3: believe is like these are you know, the inner generational beasts.
Speaker 3: There are certain gray streets that don't even meet a trades.
Speaker 3: Let me see there's certain six oers that don't even
Speaker 3: meet a trades.
Speaker 6: Try to get that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably the same thing if you were
Speaker 4: to analyze like Italian mafias and different families when they
Speaker 4: have a different leader have different peace and conflict eras
Speaker 4: based off of the like trajectory. That's like, forget what
Speaker 4: family that one dude that god he killed, you know,
Speaker 4: big Big Joe or a big PAULI whatever. I'm sure
Speaker 4: like that ten year period had its leadership structure and
Speaker 4: its agenda. He's gone, you have new leadership, there's a
Speaker 4: new agenda with new people involved. So they might have
Speaker 4: a different relationship with different people, different groups, so there's
Speaker 4: gonna be different dynamics in different chemistry.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's probably any different in any other way.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Diamond Basket Time.
Speaker 3: I'm not knocking it, but it does feel odd to
Speaker 3: represent from a hood in another state in constant grind.
Speaker 3: If I remember correctly, the bloods we sourced from Swans,
Speaker 3: but none of them said they were from Swans. Okay,
Speaker 3: so imagine like you starting to rap and you don't
Speaker 3: call it hip hop, but you pretty much emulating hip hop.
Speaker 3: What's more, of a h a weird move, the fact
Speaker 3: that you actually emulating what these guys are doing and
Speaker 3: then to deny it came from them, or to accept
Speaker 3: it and then.
Speaker 1: Put your own spin on it.
Speaker 3: Like when I go to Gray Street in Jersey again,
Speaker 3: like I just told you the history of Gray Street
Speaker 3: that they don't have to have a great in Jersey,
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of Gray Street.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Gray Street at first?
Speaker 4: How did that happen? Did a guy from Grape Street
Speaker 4: like move there? Or did they just somebody went to
Speaker 4: prison there? Okay, So it's like it's not about the
Speaker 4: street signs, you know what I mean? And this is
Speaker 4: the hardest part to understand. The pride that comes in.
Speaker 4: This is about the people. It's not the sign the sign.
Speaker 3: That's why I keep giving you different names, right, I
Speaker 3: keep telling you the same gang. And they're not subsets.
Speaker 3: They're actually weirdly, they're their own games. It's like, it's
Speaker 3: not like the United States of America with his effect tax.
Speaker 3: It's like that's why that's why people fight each other
Speaker 3: within these situations like some are but then some do
Speaker 3: their own thing.
Speaker 1: So don't get me wrong, Like.
Speaker 3: I can get the feel of a subset, but it's
Speaker 3: a little trickier. It's not about the street sign, if
Speaker 3: that makes sense, you know. I mean, it's not about
Speaker 3: the street sign. It's about the people. The comaraderie to
Speaker 3: get down. The street sign don't matter. So you can
Speaker 3: get a Hoover in Houston, and like I've been with
Speaker 3: the Hoovers in Houston, and I respect they get down
Speaker 3: because really it's their friends and their family and their homies.
Speaker 1: They got their own beasts, they don't.
Speaker 3: It ain't like when when Hoover went down there, Oh,
Speaker 3: we don't like neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: They gonna have their own enemies.
Speaker 3: They gonna have a bunch of other guys that's fighting
Speaker 3: over the same resources that they fighting over, and that's
Speaker 3: gonna be the person they're competing with and and and
Speaker 3: having issues with.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's not like you know, now, I got it.
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with homie from a trade in
Speaker 3: New York and is big in New York, shout out
Speaker 3: to the hommies out there, But they were trying to
Speaker 3: absorb the neighborhood beef. And I remember telling them, like,
Speaker 3: that's not really the thing to do. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: your own enemies. You in New York, trust me, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be some people that do not like you exist
Speaker 3: and they want to compete for whatever you're whatever you're
Speaker 3: trying our team, You're gonna make your own beasts, just
Speaker 3: like every generation of a game. My older homies, they
Speaker 3: class the most, were Promenodes. Every Promenokee I ever met
Speaker 3: my life has usually been the coolest motherfucking the world.
Speaker 3: My younger homies they had they thing with the Monas.
Speaker 3: The Monas was my guys. We cut our bones beefing
Speaker 3: with Carver Parks. The carver Parks and my homies are
Speaker 3: the closest. The younger homies is the closest people in
Speaker 3: the world. So it's not quite in a generation of
Speaker 3: you know shit you absorbed? Is that because they only
Speaker 3: look at it like crips only beef with bloods?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that part of the reason too, No, it's just
Speaker 3: a nuance that like crips can't be for crips. Just
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the public. See the way the public
Speaker 3: views it, mm hmm, because I know how it works myself.
Speaker 3: So I'm talking about the public viewing it that way.
Speaker 3: They don't have any information that's the point of hip hop.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be the CN end of the ghetto.
Speaker 3: So like I broadcast detailed, nuanced understanding of what's happening
Speaker 3: in the ghetto, and that may not be the greatest thing.
Speaker 3: Like I'm a lot more Barbara Walters or whoever that
Speaker 3: specialist is than just the main dream version of Don Lemon,
Speaker 3: you know that just kind of glances over the ship,
Speaker 3: like I'm calling the game for real, this is the game.
Speaker 3: This ain't ESPN. I'm not stephen A. Smith giving you
Speaker 3: the highlight the dunk or who's the people that do
Speaker 3: the highlights?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: You know whoever does this saying my wraps ain't Sports Center?
Speaker 3: Other people raps are sports Center. Here go to slam dump.
Speaker 3: A lot of niggas movies are Sports Center rap dump.
Speaker 3: Here's a dude, map cord, here's a steal. You know,
Speaker 3: remember they wrap a forty eight minute game in less
Speaker 3: than sixty seconds.
Speaker 1: Boy, Pete, they have you're.
Speaker 4: The thirty for thirty. Here's what we're doing seventeen for
Speaker 4: seventeen seventy minute, deep deep research, bio, real, real life, you.
Speaker 1: Know, shorts.
Speaker 4: We don't have to be a thirty minute. Shit about
Speaker 4: thirty for thirty. Fuck it, we're doing seventeen for seventeen that.
Speaker 3: But that's how my raps are anyway, Like my wraps
Speaker 3: are not like the surface level like not this and
Speaker 3: nobody else. But I'm saying they have a surface level taste.
Speaker 3: So that's why people think, like gangs is about street
Speaker 3: signs color, that's a surface level Take my shit is not.
Speaker 3: This ain't a film. This is a documentary, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm walking you really through the nuances
Speaker 3: of it, and and I and I accept what it
Speaker 3: is as a responsibility.
Speaker 6: So like because I think we're kind of getting at it,
Speaker 6: like different.
Speaker 4: Neighborhoods or different crews have like a different like cultures,
Speaker 4: like nuances of culture. Right, So for example, like you
Speaker 4: said south Side back in the day, south Side was
Speaker 4: really about getting their their their bread, like that was
Speaker 4: kind of their thing, versus like say you would discuss
Speaker 4: Devers were like they were with the ship like for real.
Speaker 3: But but I also don't want to conflate like the
Speaker 3: south Side that was gangsters the whole time.
Speaker 1: They just had homies.
Speaker 3: That was rich too, deals had some deals has some people.
Speaker 3: But yes, I agree you're right, but like the branding
Speaker 3: aout definitely rich people.
Speaker 1: They have rich homies.
Speaker 6: Sure, so like I see a culture within your neighborhood
Speaker 6: that would be you take that somewhere else or whatever.
Speaker 4: You know that that might specifically embody more with you
Speaker 4: and your ten people that fuck with you were about
Speaker 4: than just something broader or more generic. It's like, nah,
Speaker 4: we don't really don't get out like them. This is
Speaker 4: this is what we're really about.
Speaker 3: But that's gonna be. And that's what happens in every generation.
Speaker 3: It gets defined a little different. Shout so far.
Speaker 4: As white grape is over there, some guy says, this
Speaker 4: is what grape is to me and to us. I'm
Speaker 4: here now, so this is what we're about. If you
Speaker 4: fucking with me, this is how we do it.
Speaker 1: I don't, yes, yes, I mean this is how it sounds.
Speaker 3: Ten Trade Day in Newark, bro It was more people
Speaker 3: at the ten Trade Day in Newark than the one
Speaker 3: and watch that I believe for sure. I mean, and
Speaker 3: I knew that that ship was real.
Speaker 1: Mhm. They wasn't. That, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: Like hip hop they took they have some of the
Speaker 3: things that we identify, and they have some things, but
Speaker 3: they have a special way that they do it. That's
Speaker 3: what I respect. That's what I respect about the Ugs
Speaker 3: and flat Bush. That's what I respect about the one
Speaker 3: Aighties and the Bronx. That's what I respect about the
Speaker 3: Brands and and and.
Speaker 1: Staten Island.
Speaker 3: This is what I respect A Trays and this is
Speaker 3: what I respect about them. They have their own way
Speaker 3: and that's why they get my respect.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Now, if you're trying to emulate what some other brothers
Speaker 3: is doing, you're trying to beat them, then that's where
Speaker 3: you would lose. But Nah, when I went to the
Speaker 3: ten Trade Day in Newark and that projects bro them
Speaker 3: niggas was out there, and I could tell they had
Speaker 3: a flair that made me like see it, Like, oh
Speaker 3: that's player.
Speaker 1: These niggas. It's East Coach cripping.
Speaker 3: It ain't really not like the gang East Coast, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: nigga tried state cript. These niggas really had their own
Speaker 3: flare and I respected it, Like I was like, oh
Speaker 3: this player, I can fuck with these niggas.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I didn't look at it, huh.
Speaker 4: With Harlem's like like like Pea Stones has a Chicago
Speaker 4: route right, Yeah, the l a Ones.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because the boy came from recipes of the
Speaker 3: t Rogers, he came from Chicago and brought it here.
Speaker 1: Here's the perfect example. He made it. He made it
Speaker 1: fit Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Like if if he tried to raise that exact same
Speaker 3: version of stones in La we don't have the atmosphere
Speaker 3: the ecosystem to grow it. But because he catered it
Speaker 3: to fit this particular part of the earth, it ended
Speaker 3: up becoming one of the most powerful group of men
Speaker 3: in the history you know of street up and culture.
Speaker 3: Like they're a powerful group of people. Uh, set out
Speaker 3: to the Donna streets. I was tweeting this. I was saying,
Speaker 3: that ship we went going everywhere else down the streets
Speaker 3: in Vegas is dope.
Speaker 7: Make that ship that like the like descriptions right there
Speaker 7: for real, for real?
Speaker 3: Shut out to John, Welcome to the Lost Table, my guy,
Speaker 3: Oh I send you here.
Speaker 1: You give me ship.
Speaker 3: But Malone, don't you also take up artistic privilege by
Speaker 3: altering the story.
Speaker 1: Altering which story specifically? Tem Rodgers is one of the
Speaker 1: coolest people I.
Speaker 3: Ever met in the streets ever, like a man of wisdom,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I never forget. We went
Speaker 3: and ate at at the Roscos in Inglewood, right.
Speaker 1: We met up. I was helping him with some film stuff.
Speaker 3: When I was helping him, and he just he always
Speaker 3: showed me love his son rest in peace to his son.
Speaker 1: Was like, that was really my guy. Lucky was my guy.
Speaker 1: And we ate and.
Speaker 3: When I went I was waiting on him right now,
Speaker 3: tem Rodgers, No, I'm a crib from the east side whatever,
Speaker 3: but you know so I'm glasses whatever. So we're in
Speaker 3: Inglewood right, blood Central and Inglewood, you know, in the
Speaker 3: center of it, especially some of the root more roofless
Speaker 3: bloods and history.
Speaker 1: So we in there.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting on him. He come sit down, and where
Speaker 3: my back is at? He like, ain't no door behind me?
Speaker 3: He said, Now, young glasses, before we start this meeting,
Speaker 3: he said, it's on me. First off, I'm treating, he said,
Speaker 3: but if we need to get up out of here,
Speaker 3: you know, how are we getting up out of here?
Speaker 3: He was saying that there was no doors behind your cloak.
Speaker 3: I said, yea, I'm gonna go through this window.
Speaker 4: Dude, top like Malcolm got all that ship from him,
Speaker 4: Like you don't like how.
Speaker 6: Funk sha works with lighting.
Speaker 4: Sure, Malcolm will walk into a restaurant and have to
Speaker 4: sit there's only two three tables in the joint. He'll
Speaker 4: actually sit down at for purposes a strategic movement.
Speaker 3: Ridiculous. No, see, but at the table. Yeah, I had
Speaker 3: to go through windows. I don't look for doors. I
Speaker 3: look through for windows. Table through window.
Speaker 6: Like that's drywall. We can go through that easy.
Speaker 5: If it's.
Speaker 1: Yo, yo, look for the door. Oh, shout out to John.
Speaker 1: He said. The narrative of the death row chain.
Speaker 3: So it's not a narrative right that there's a thing
Speaker 3: that that people believe happened and people that didn't believe happened.
Speaker 3: It's always been right up the middle for people. The
Speaker 3: person the person in actual question that it didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Tray said it didn't happen to him. He told me, like, man,
Speaker 3: that didn't even happen. They didn't get my chain, but
Speaker 3: everybody else said they got a chain. And that is
Speaker 3: the conversation of the story. So that's the point of it.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't to me. If if no chain
Speaker 3: is took right, then Tupac just looks like a gang member.
Speaker 3: Specific I'm sorry to catch all up with two pac
Speaker 3: months die. So Trayvon from the mob. Trayyon is Trayon
Speaker 3: Lane from the mob.
Speaker 1: We talked after. You know, he felt some kind of
Speaker 1: way like, man, Glass, you're telling this story. You made
Speaker 1: me look.
Speaker 3: I guess he felt like it wasn't flattering, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And he was like, man, they ain't
Speaker 3: even get my chain. But there's other honemies from the
Speaker 3: mob that said it did. That's not important. When he
Speaker 3: told you that, no, no, there was no bounty on
Speaker 3: the change. That was a lie too. That was never
Speaker 3: a real bounty. Again, the l a thing Mark is
Speaker 3: you don't really people snatch change because that's just what
Speaker 3: you do when you're in the fight. It's not really
Speaker 3: the bounty.
Speaker 5: Who was supposed to be You said it was supposed
Speaker 5: to be a bound on a chain.
Speaker 3: This was the ship that people said, puff said, but
Speaker 3: none of nobody ever verified that it would have been aget,
Speaker 3: it'd have been a different target. So nobody believed that
Speaker 3: that that's probably not true. But so he was saying
Speaker 3: that he felt that the conversation. But I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: imagine if I tell that story and it was just
Speaker 3: a gang fight and now Tupac rushed that manner.
Speaker 1: Tupac looks like a gang maker, Like it's already questions.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know if you really want to
Speaker 3: do it that way, Like at this point you still
Speaker 3: The reason that part of the story makes sense, John,
Speaker 3: is because it gives you the chance to see Tupac
Speaker 3: either as being a loyalist to somebody that he felt
Speaker 3: was a friend, or you could see him as somebody
Speaker 3: acting like he's from the mob and wanting to participate
Speaker 3: in the street. I gave you an option, John, Like
Speaker 3: you have an option now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I understood what trade was mad for. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But again, it's like everybody told the story.
Speaker 3: They not gonna protect your legacy because I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: way more respect for you than everybody else because I
Speaker 3: know what you've been through.
Speaker 1: The rest of these people don't give too fucks about you.
Speaker 5: So that is the way to flip it through.
Speaker 1: But I always say that all the time.
Speaker 3: It be certain people online it's like Adam twenty two,
Speaker 3: Like Adam twenty two don't have no shame? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: how do you argue with somebody who you know you
Speaker 3: don't even care if his old lady sleep with the
Speaker 3: other men.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You said, Okay, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's the John. But that's what I'm saying. You alfered
Speaker 3: the narrative from what is probably true. No, I didn't
Speaker 3: offer the narrative because there's always been this conflict of
Speaker 3: what's true and what's not.
Speaker 6: You probably is as subjective in that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no The truth is questionable and probably it's
Speaker 3: not realistic. It's it was always people who said it did,
Speaker 3: and people said it well everybody else said he did.
Speaker 6: One person said it did, and that one person.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like at all, just inherently giving the nature
Speaker 4: of how that all played out, hasn't it.
Speaker 6: Set up to say it didn't?
Speaker 1: Sure, shout out the dog Walk Rehab. Sorry I'm late, guys.
Speaker 3: We can start now, and we was waiting we started, boy,
Speaker 3: I'm sure he was waiting on you.
Speaker 6: He learned from King, So you know, he's just following
Speaker 6: the rules.
Speaker 3: That's what I tell exactly. That's what I tell the
Speaker 3: hummies all the time. Like I'm not really cut out
Speaker 3: to dude what they do. Like at the community, I'm
Speaker 3: like the people you're arguing with don't have no shame,
Speaker 3: like all the people on the internet argument you can't
Speaker 3: have no shame. Like like if I got my ass
Speaker 3: with the ship, I just wouldn't be showing up on
Speaker 3: the internet talking ship for sure. I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I ain't like these niggas to get beat up and
Speaker 3: be talking crazy.
Speaker 1: The next day, Aaron the Plumber.
Speaker 5: That was crazy.
Speaker 1: Clumber.
Speaker 3: He said, you know, Share is somewhere mad as condo facts,
Speaker 3: but that goes along with what you're saying, people talking
Speaker 3: shit and really, don't you know I don't want it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. I was listening to my repression fit.
Speaker 3: I was reading his tweets and it was just like
Speaker 3: I was reading his tweets and he was just going
Speaker 3: off as ship and he was just like talking shit
Speaker 3: about black people. He was like, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: like fucking with you know niggas because you know, they
Speaker 3: get mad and they want to fight. You don't like,
Speaker 3: you couldn't have been around black people Like that's not
Speaker 3: the story. But I think again, it's a bunch of
Speaker 3: people who conflate with what they see is going on
Speaker 3: on the internet. And he had no shame, like he's
Speaker 3: sitting his black ass up there on that video saying
Speaker 3: all that shit. He don't have no shame. How your
Speaker 3: black ass sitting up there on that thing doing that.
Speaker 3: You can't have no shame. So that means you can't
Speaker 3: have no pride.
Speaker 1: You can't. So if you got if they're shamed, there's
Speaker 1: no pride.
Speaker 6: If there's no shame, there's no shame.
Speaker 1: There's no pride.
Speaker 4: Like there can be a yang without a yang, so
Speaker 4: to speak.
Speaker 1: Is that fair trap?
Speaker 5: Yeah, for the most part, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 5: mean what you're saying, Like.
Speaker 4: For example, women live in a universe without consequences. We
Speaker 4: can all agree on that, right, there's no consequences. Can
Speaker 4: there really be disciplined? No, because discipline is based on
Speaker 4: the idea that consequences exist.
Speaker 1: So with no discipline, is there same.
Speaker 6: With no discipline?
Speaker 9: Yeah, with no discipline, there is if you if shame
Speaker 9: and consequences exist.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but see with with then no pride, Yeah, pride
Speaker 7: coming for the shame though like that with then with
Speaker 7: with with the saying that the discipline but a shame,
Speaker 7: I guess so I guess you, I guess we speaking.
Speaker 6: A different spectrum lines but they're parallel.
Speaker 3: No, because that goes back to the subject of Kay,
Speaker 3: you know what he did was that prideful thing he
Speaker 3: felt he did you know for himself, that was shameful
Speaker 3: to everybody else and he just don't recognize it now.
Speaker 3: So so here's a perfect example. Right, we use this
Speaker 3: term bitch ass nigga in the community, right, A lot
Speaker 3: of these times we use. But I don't think we
Speaker 3: understand wish language. No, No, I get, but I get
Speaker 3: people don't understand what these things. It means that as
Speaker 3: a male, you're acting like a woman, right, and acting
Speaker 3: like a woman could be a few things, right. One
Speaker 3: of the things is unaccountability right where you lack accountability
Speaker 3: like Kanye.
Speaker 1: So somebody would look at him right now say he's
Speaker 1: acting like.
Speaker 3: A blah blah blah because right now, like if he's
Speaker 3: talking about his kids, he's like, none of y'all speaking
Speaker 3: up for me, and everybody is looking at him like nigga.
Speaker 1: Everybody told you don't mess with this lady. This lady is.
Speaker 3: Not Hip hop has a golden rule. It's been through
Speaker 3: and through since the eighties. This is a street urban rule.
Speaker 3: Do not turn a hole into a housewife. So when
Speaker 3: you decided that you were not under the guise of
Speaker 3: these cultural standards, You're like, I'm better than that. I'm
Speaker 3: going to be the biggest pop artists in the world.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be Walt Disney. I'm going to be
Speaker 3: Ralph Lauren.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 1: Black with black is going to be a level of
Speaker 1: pride that.
Speaker 3: You just have in this country, because it's really hard
Speaker 3: to come through it without it. Even for somebody who
Speaker 3: may you know they have not experienced a bunch of
Speaker 3: oppression or lack of opportunities, you're gonna notice it when
Speaker 3: you somewhere and just sheer like lack of other people
Speaker 3: you see that look like you in successful spaces. So
Speaker 3: when he's going off like, oh, you know, nobody's saying nothing,
Speaker 3: jay Z not saying nothing, jay Z not saying nothing,
Speaker 3: It's like, Bro, he told you so now, and that's
Speaker 3: his whole ploy. I'm mad because y'all letting this happen
Speaker 3: to me. I can't see my kids. Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: these white women, Bro, she wasn't a white woman when
Speaker 3: you was dunting for her. We was telling you she
Speaker 3: wasn't a sister then, and then what could happen to you,
Speaker 3: so now you're upset.
Speaker 1: That's why people label him that.
Speaker 4: It's really remarkable for us like that, a family that's
Speaker 4: most famous because it had one of the most high
Speaker 4: profile litterg gators in the country as its former patriarch.
Speaker 4: You thought, let me position myself to get into a
Speaker 4: legal battle with these people.
Speaker 5: Right right, I don't mess Christ.
Speaker 3: Shout out to two thousand and five Kanye two thousand
Speaker 3: shoutouts to no two thousand and five. Kanye won in
Speaker 3: two thousand and ten. Kanye, but man was fully on.
Speaker 3: Can't tell me nothing about facts. Yeah, shout out to
Speaker 3: John H. Flinches, big ups and glasses. But back there
Speaker 3: you said, if the attempt is still to change is
Speaker 3: the truth, the situation makes no sense for for Pak
Speaker 3: to attack Lane. But honestly, John is a little bit
Speaker 3: more trickier than that. I actually think Pac was from
Speaker 3: the mob. That's what I think now. Whether the change,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even put a lot of thought into if
Speaker 3: if if Trey's chain got took that wasn't even the
Speaker 3: most important part to me, because the one thing that
Speaker 3: I am certain of is Pac was banging the mob,
Speaker 3: and that's the one thing that hasn't been verified. But
Speaker 3: that's the one thing that I'm certain of. So now
Speaker 3: the rest of the world they're not as certain. They
Speaker 3: cannot believe how could Pop come from being a panther
Speaker 3: type character to being a blood so they don't want that.
Speaker 3: So I can tell he was banging the mob. I
Speaker 3: could tell how he was going. I can look at things,
Speaker 3: I can listen to what he's saying, not just in raps,
Speaker 3: and feel like, oh yeah, he pressing.
Speaker 1: A line.
Speaker 6: Like nobody in the history of the world.
Speaker 1: You said, who.
Speaker 5: A lot of shit, A lot of ship.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 4: So I get around and then just keep your head up, baby,
Speaker 4: I know I knocked you up.
Speaker 5: When I'm out of here, man, A lot of ship.
Speaker 3: Again, It's like, you know what I'm saying, like I can't.
Speaker 3: Now if I give you my opinion of that, right,
Speaker 3: then that's different. I'm not trying to convince y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to convince nobody that Pac was banging
Speaker 3: them out. That's not even the Really, the story wasn't
Speaker 3: even John, wasn't about the story wasn't about change. The
Speaker 3: story wasn't even about Tupaca. It was all about game
Speaker 3: Mo reality. How we understand if y'all jump on somebody,
Speaker 3: if you jump on somebody from somebody by themself, if
Speaker 3: you treat them unfair, we understand morally, you're probably gonna
Speaker 3: get some bullets. That was the That was the point
Speaker 3: of Tupac Must Die. It was the the.
Speaker 4: It was more about the crypt side of it, not
Speaker 4: to make it from the colors or game side.
Speaker 3: It was more or less the the l a street
Speaker 3: are and cultural part of that, the morality being one
Speaker 3: of the aspects of culture, the view.
Speaker 6: Of the shooter, not anything else.
Speaker 4: Was really incidental because it doesn't matter the fact that
Speaker 4: that went on today. That guy and he perceives it
Speaker 4: that way, and he has to respond to it this
Speaker 4: way in order to restore what is important to him
Speaker 4: is the story.
Speaker 6: All the rest of the details are really neither.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Pete. That's the point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's almost like the street version of like
Speaker 4: that scene that you're not supposed to talk about in
Speaker 4: that movie that Edward James almost made that never was
Speaker 4: really made when he got messed with and then stabbed
Speaker 4: the dude, which never happened in the scene was never filmed,
Speaker 4: and we never saw it at the Youth.
Speaker 1: Camp shout out to dog Walk Rehab.
Speaker 3: I think he felt like he had to be loyal
Speaker 3: to Shugar for bailing him out. I don't think so,
Speaker 3: dog Walk. I think Pak is really like a loyalist.
Speaker 3: Like I think he didn't have to feel like it.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, I'm riding with you.
Speaker 6: And I think he liked being a part of a brand.
Speaker 6: I think he liked I think he liked.
Speaker 1: On with the ship.
Speaker 3: Bro, why would you not want to death Row at
Speaker 3: the time is the most powerful thing moving. It's the
Speaker 3: most respected thing moving, and the most powerful thing moving.
Speaker 3: They come get you out of jail. He had wrote letters,
Speaker 3: Pocket wrote letters to different people. They was making calls
Speaker 3: to different labels like just get us out. We'll give
Speaker 3: you four albums for this. People were like, nah, this
Speaker 3: motherfucker got a platinum album right then and there. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you on your own, my boy, like Nigga, he had
Speaker 3: just made and this go twenty million dollars plus and
Speaker 3: they just leaving him in jail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like I'm slick Rick. He chieved me, Like I'm slick Rick.
Speaker 3: Think about something he just get Then here comes sug
Speaker 3: who was probably at this point on the hip hop
Speaker 3: side of the production, not the record label, not the
Speaker 3: big label, but on the hip hop side, on the
Speaker 3: production side, that's the puffs, the j princes, the drapers,
Speaker 3: that he's the most powerful guy in the game.
Speaker 1: And he comes and get you out.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm feel fucking nigga over for you. I don't
Speaker 3: owe you nothing. I gave you the records, but now, nigga,
Speaker 3: I know you fuck with me. That's what I feel
Speaker 3: like I got from Pop I got. Oh you y'all
Speaker 3: fuck with me like Trey embracing him, trade, bringing him around,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Trayvon Lane bringing him around
Speaker 3: and fucking with Heim, showing him the homies, They showing
Speaker 3: him love, and man, this shit is like that. How
Speaker 3: y'all think, Wayne, God damn people, this shit really will
Speaker 3: embrace you and you will get a family that you
Speaker 3: never had, a group of men that you never had
Speaker 3: to show you love. You never had nothing like this before.
Speaker 4: Well real quick, tray Von Lane, he said, yeah, yep,
Speaker 4: so Lane was the name of two of the three
Speaker 4: pivotal characters involved in this.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's fucking impossible, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 7: It's crazy. What a coincidence. That's crazy. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, so so.
Speaker 7: You feel like that's the first time he because he
Speaker 7: from He's from Oakland, right, you say from Oakland, So
Speaker 7: he ain't get that type of love in Oakland. Sign
Speaker 7: he came to caliar.
Speaker 1: Somber remember remember his staff friend.
Speaker 3: Well, he didn't live He lived in this smaller town right,
Speaker 3: this place where we went to high school at. Right,
Speaker 3: he lived in one of the offshoe cities of the baby.
Speaker 3: When he kind of started to get with digital underground,
Speaker 3: he moved to Oakland. But he's still a baby. You know,
Speaker 3: he's still eighteen nineteen years old, you know, not in
Speaker 3: gang years. Shout out to cousin Druggy. Right, Marin City,
Speaker 3: that's what it's called. He lived in Marin City.
Speaker 5: M hmm.
Speaker 1: So it's like, so remember one of the main problems
Speaker 1: people said he ended up.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if it's true, and I probably
Speaker 3: shouldn't say, but I'm gonna say it. Anyway, he got
Speaker 3: into it with some cats in the Bay Area and
Speaker 3: they came to some picnic trying to hurt him some
Speaker 3: part trying to.
Speaker 1: Hurt him with people. That's part of the They said
Speaker 1: he came down.
Speaker 3: To La too what I'm saying. So it's like he
Speaker 3: didn't really get him. Remember he's in New York. All
Speaker 3: of the guys he ran with in New York, he
Speaker 3: kind of it feels like he kind of blames them
Speaker 3: for what happens, even though they were all the guys saying,
Speaker 3: don't deal with these people.
Speaker 1: Don't play with these people. They were telling him like, hey.
Speaker 5: Don't you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like even when I talked Jack talked to Haitian Jack
Speaker 1: and I asked him.
Speaker 3: I talked to Jimmy like I'm not the average rapper,
Speaker 3: Like I'll ask people what I want to know. Man,
Speaker 3: it's Seventh Street, criypt. Nigga'm gonna ask you because Nigga,
Speaker 3: I can't. So I remember Jack telling me like, gee,
Speaker 3: he just didn't understand certain things in the street. And
Speaker 3: he looked at me like it's my fault. It's like, Nigga,
Speaker 3: we told you. This bitch as a whole. Same situation
Speaker 3: as Kanye. You know, he got with a girl and
Speaker 3: the girl was a little out there. He kind of
Speaker 3: fell in love and it went too far. He realized
Speaker 3: she was a whole and now he's embarrassed.
Speaker 1: He had that pride.
Speaker 3: They created that shame and here we are in this
Speaker 3: whole other delimma, right, and then he blames them, even
Speaker 3: the shit with him and Jimmy Hensman with Jimmy gave
Speaker 3: him money, you know what I mean, And he didn't
Speaker 3: want to get Jimmy back his money because he was
Speaker 3: mad at Jack because he caught the case over this
Speaker 3: girl that they told him was not the cond you
Speaker 3: settled down with, you know what I'm saying, And they
Speaker 3: told him that, and you know, he didn't get Jimmy.
Speaker 3: He blamed Jimmy because he met Jimmy through Jack, if
Speaker 3: I understand correct. So again it's like, you know, he
Speaker 3: blamed so he again, think about all of what he
Speaker 3: could perceive as betrayal, Yeah, think about what he can
Speaker 3: perceive as betrayal. He could feel like, you know, and
Speaker 3: then people try to say Stretch has something to do,
Speaker 3: even though everybody that's in the street set, that's just
Speaker 3: not true, right because it really wouldn't make sense. Even
Speaker 3: Jimmy said he didn't try to get him hurt. He
Speaker 3: just was like me, give me my money back if
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this Jersey i'ma get something. So again,
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Park.
Speaker 1: Was in a really.
Speaker 3: Unique situation because while he was mad, he understood that
Speaker 3: a lot of it was by his own doing. But
Speaker 3: then he decided, and this is Puff. If there's one
Speaker 3: thing I could blame Puff for?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Puff, did.
Speaker 3: Anybody in the way? I could blame Puff for it?
Speaker 3: Because nobody's above responsibility. Big got the new the video
Speaker 3: shoot fucked up Puff specifically right, Puff realized when he
Speaker 3: got shot that this was the perfect time to drop
Speaker 3: who shot you? Mm hmmm, perfect time to drop.
Speaker 5: What was what was the time of What was the
Speaker 5: time of that bad I gotta looked that up.
Speaker 3: I want to see what the time that was. I
Speaker 3: was looking at him when I was studying it. It
Speaker 3: was right there and I know, no, no, no, uh
Speaker 3: shout out to DT. Park not here to defend himself
Speaker 3: with all the respect. You don't worry about pot DT.
Speaker 1: I'm your homeboy.
Speaker 3: One thing I'm not gonna do is let my homeboys
Speaker 3: start talking about some nigga. You don't know whatever I
Speaker 3: got to say about, because you don't got nothing to
Speaker 3: say about it. Nig You my homeboy, nigga. You know
Speaker 3: me in real life nigga, but by no rapper, they
Speaker 3: don't never do that. I don't want my homeboys to ever.
Speaker 3: Don't get you. I'm not disrespecting the nigga and I
Speaker 3: could have this conversation. That's the point of the No
Speaker 3: Center's platform in general. I'm not disrespecting and it's not
Speaker 3: I'm not attacking him. I'm telling you based off of
Speaker 3: simple business things, these were his moves. No, I'm not speculating,
Speaker 3: lex I'm not. Some of this ship is a fact
Speaker 3: that Jack told me till my face. That's not the speculation.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hisssman told me. I'm not speculating. I'm not telling
Speaker 3: you my opinion. I'm telling you what niggas old me.
Speaker 3: Now what they did is different. I'm telling you what
Speaker 3: niggas told me again. So now here's that speculation. The
Speaker 3: speculation is Puff saw that.
Speaker 1: Opportunity as a time to launch this biggie song. It works.
Speaker 3: Pop felt some kind of way about them using right
Speaker 3: that as a this Niggas song, and he decided he
Speaker 3: was going to use everything to market Ish. That's my speculation.
Speaker 3: This is what we're doing. Oh, this is what we do.
Speaker 3: I got shot and y'all go market it. Okay, all
Speaker 3: bets is off. This is what we're doing. We're marketing
Speaker 3: with trauma. I'm gonna show you how to do it.
Speaker 3: That's my speculation. He didn't never say that, but I
Speaker 3: believe genuinely that's what he did. He said, y'all gonna
Speaker 3: use me getting shot to market y'all song. Let me
Speaker 3: show you how to really do this. I'm gonna make
Speaker 3: people feel like Because he's never in life said they
Speaker 3: had none to do with him getting shot, He's actually
Speaker 3: said the exact opposite. May y'all think I would be
Speaker 3: rapping if I thought then people had me shot. M
Speaker 3: He has made it clear that they had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with him getting shot. He's made it clear out
Speaker 3: of his mouth right, nothing to do with to get shot.
Speaker 3: But he made people feel like it whatever energy put
Speaker 3: out and then niggas really felt like puffing big assing
Speaker 3: to do it him getting shot, and he used that
Speaker 3: ship and prepared himself into the into the top spot
Speaker 3: in all of hip hop. It was brilliant, one of
Speaker 3: the greatest marketing moves I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: He put the reverse card on the luggage, put the
Speaker 5: reverse half you have that you have me hand.
Speaker 1: You know, hurt I was nice.
Speaker 7: It's one of the nice that was that was that
Speaker 7: he was, that was coming from sitting up in that clip,
Speaker 7: sitting up in that jail. He said, what the fun?
Speaker 7: He said, he his head back and all that ship
Speaker 7: big niggas. I got these niggas. Wat's what we're gonna do?
Speaker 7: So he talked about getting shot everything. It was crazy after.
Speaker 1: That reverse what.
Speaker 7: M sacking on him too, that's crazy. The ba the
Speaker 7: back jump on the back jump, marketing, the marketing of
Speaker 7: it's crazy. And he like seeing like he's seeing, he's
Speaker 7: seen ahead of like you've seen so far.
Speaker 3: At the time, I'm gonna dud I remember that he had,
Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, you know, we'll probably get
Speaker 3: together and make some records. You just talked about fucking
Speaker 3: this Nigga White m talking about his kids.
Speaker 7: Nigga what he's talking about here, talking about Sugar, talking
Speaker 7: about Sugar giving him that damn money giving him out.
Speaker 7: Sugar parably came there and visited them be and Nigga
Speaker 7: probably told Sugars whole the whole plan. Oh god, this
Speaker 7: is what it is right here, this is what it is.
Speaker 7: I got this, this is the whole layout.
Speaker 1: This is the last.
Speaker 5: So said, what this is money?
Speaker 1: He said, what what here?
Speaker 3: That Nigga hand writ his contract, Nigga niggas by hand. Niggah,
Speaker 3: you're with this perfect emotion.
Speaker 5: This is it? Be going with. I'm with it.
Speaker 1: All I need is a feature feature drake the rest
Speaker 1: of his ship. I got it.
Speaker 5: I got it.
Speaker 7: We're gonna run the whole play on these niggas. Be
Speaker 7: this that this is over. It's we're going with pegging
Speaker 7: buff right there. Yeah, this is a fucking marketing. The
Speaker 7: video here, the videos, the video he did niggas and
Speaker 7: the ship he pulled that.
Speaker 5: He had all that ship visualized already.
Speaker 1: He knew it.
Speaker 3: That was the meanest twelve months in history. Crazy, Like,
Speaker 3: that's that of shit I'm talking about with dot. That
Speaker 3: was another twelve months that we need to talk about.
Speaker 3: That twelve months from him dropping Nigga is the world
Speaker 3: being in jail, having the number one album in jail
Speaker 3: to fucking dying like that twelve month is Saturay crazy.
Speaker 3: That's a mean twelve You come up like, oh, y'all,
Speaker 3: niggas playing with my name, y'all see I got shot.
Speaker 1: Y'all think that shit funny.
Speaker 7: You know what I think about you know, I think
Speaker 7: my thinking about the ship though. Look how young nigga
Speaker 7: was doing that ship though too, man, Yeah, twenty four.
Speaker 3: Years old, forty five, and it just came to me
Speaker 3: this nigga was only ship at twenty.
Speaker 5: Four, twenty four.
Speaker 1: He was crazy niggas playing with me. Nigga nigga.
Speaker 7: Crazy man, that was crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he said. Consequences from Puff's marketing cloud cheese.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly what it was.
Speaker 3: Because y'all gotta remember, like like Hit Him Up was
Speaker 3: already done before.
Speaker 1: I think Hit Him Up was supposed to be on
Speaker 1: all lines on m back.
Speaker 5: When it was called came fall Houns with me right.
Speaker 1: It came out four or five months after came out
Speaker 1: on a Mexico. I said.
Speaker 3: The only thing for me that's close to Dods run, Right,
Speaker 3: that's one of the greatest runs that September to that
Speaker 3: September DMX's run, fifties running oh three, I'd say, fifty run, Wayne's.
Speaker 1: Run and O eight.
Speaker 3: Snoops Run from Snoops run from ninety from ninety three
Speaker 3: of January, you know, or excuse me December ninety three
Speaker 3: to excuse me December ninety two when the crownic came
Speaker 3: out to December ninety three, after do you stuff came out,
Speaker 3: that's one of them runs too, and I still got
Speaker 3: dout twelve month run over.
Speaker 5: I got two for you.
Speaker 7: I got, I got the I like big run from
Speaker 7: the time and the one more chance she went up
Speaker 7: until all through.
Speaker 5: I'm saying jay Z jay Z may have one too.
Speaker 5: I might give it to himny.
Speaker 1: Eight Rex was cleaning the floor.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: I said, Snoopy is charged the way Pocus is shooting
Speaker 4: like it was acid thing at the moment at the
Speaker 4: v M as when he came out and did murder
Speaker 4: was the case.
Speaker 1: When all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they weren't outside on a bullshit charge.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Holy ship even right now, I get like that was
Speaker 3: like Neirvanda couldn't funk with this big looking crazy.
Speaker 4: I was like, look at this crazy out of the
Speaker 4: wheelchair and some ship and.
Speaker 6: Stood up.
Speaker 5: That Snoop ship. That Snoop was crazy.
Speaker 3: Now that little from the chronic from when g thank
Speaker 3: video happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how the fucking would he? Pop? Boy? You couldn't
Speaker 1: go nowhere, j J.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't consider it because ninety eight is DMX year.
Speaker 3: Clearly, even though I think Jay was successful that year
Speaker 3: and he crossed over, DMX was like, you.
Speaker 6: Couldn't even because then you couldn't avoid that song.
Speaker 7: He just topped hold because he did. He did the
Speaker 7: two albums in one year, so he tapped hold with that, right.
Speaker 6: It wasn't just it it was on one album, blood
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 5: He can't put the two albums out. Blood of My
Speaker 5: Blood and all this hot.
Speaker 6: Blood about blood only sold because the first.
Speaker 5: One, Yeah, that's it though, that was it, but that
Speaker 5: it was showing on that show.
Speaker 6: It was gargangean.
Speaker 4: It was on the top probably ten biggest single songs
Speaker 4: and hip hop history, and fifty.
Speaker 7: Years off that big I was like, yeah, remember what
Speaker 7: was the other show?
Speaker 3: I know those moments, bro DMX, the first time niggas
Speaker 3: saw him and Rough Righters Anthem, you knew.
Speaker 1: It was over.
Speaker 3: Jay was Jay was more of a gradual climb of
Speaker 3: great business and great move That was never a quiet
Speaker 3: moment where I was like he galvanin his No, it was.
Speaker 7: It was the hard not life toll. It was the
Speaker 7: hard not life to that was marketing. It could have
Speaker 7: really been hit it was it was the second. It
Speaker 7: was the second the album that that that put them
Speaker 7: over the time.
Speaker 1: That was just marketing.
Speaker 3: That was the third no, because everybody felt like they
Speaker 3: thought somebody else ind headlined that tour was.
Speaker 1: That's not it's not. But that's the same, Okay.
Speaker 4: The Blood of My Blood is like the Massacre about fifty, you.
Speaker 5: Know, but it came out in the same year. It
Speaker 5: was just it.
Speaker 3: Was just it's not just the music success, it's what
Speaker 3: the what the character does to the world. Jay is
Speaker 3: like success at his smoothest. He's just success at his smoothest.
Speaker 3: He's always been smooth about success, like and like I
Speaker 3: always loved him from the first day. But it was
Speaker 3: never like polarizing. D MX was like polarizing, like I'll
Speaker 3: never forget the first that nigga that had no socks on,
Speaker 3: no TEMs on, and overall show was never polarizing.
Speaker 7: Who never never threw out a whole careerizing.
Speaker 5: Did know what he did? You know what he did.
Speaker 7: When he was in the NASCAR ship with Shorty the
Speaker 7: commercial that was polarizing right there, that's when he was
Speaker 7: looking like a rich billionaire.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It was still his brand. J. J. James always represented success. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as I'm saying it still is. It's always been.
Speaker 5: Smooth that that drivel in that nas.
Speaker 6: Cling Pam Anderson in the video.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: This is what look he had and that's like left
Speaker 3: left he had he had the chick for nance car
Speaker 3: driving the car he had Beyonce. That was the most
Speaker 3: polarizing Beyonce, the Beyonce real life bro.
Speaker 10: That wasn't art that was polarizing means I'm telling you
Speaker 10: it's can see it's concene with what's SNA with Shorty?
Speaker 3: What song was it?
Speaker 1: Show me what you got? Video wasn't No, it wasn't polarity.
Speaker 5: That was polarizing, Right.
Speaker 4: There was a commercial commercial?
Speaker 1: What was the other pole? What? What was the negative
Speaker 1: pole about it?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: What gave it power? But why is a commercial B
Speaker 1: that's all right?
Speaker 6: Compelling and polarized?
Speaker 1: Or super Bowl name be able to super Bowl commercial? B?
Speaker 5: All right? What you mean? Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Okay?
Speaker 3: Jain't never you're gonna tell me that you had knock
Speaker 3: like video was. But I don't I want to go.
Speaker 3: I want to like maybe you're using the word using
Speaker 3: what is definition.
Speaker 4: I miss read, I misread Otis. I'm sorry, Otis Otis.
Speaker 4: I offer you my personal apology. I read it quickly.
Speaker 3: And that's on me. Sorry, I fucked that up. We
Speaker 3: loved I'm a diehard j Fann. That just ain't his thing.
Speaker 3: He wasn't a polarizing.
Speaker 1: Type of act.
Speaker 3: Like his polarity barely came the other day. Jane Is
Speaker 3: always moved in this kind of real smooth like you
Speaker 3: knew he was successful. And niggas liked the nigga d
Speaker 3: m X nigga was growling nigga dm X came and
Speaker 3: niggas was like, I remember looking like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is going on? Why do this nigga have no socks
Speaker 3: on with them tms and he had a.
Speaker 6: Bunch of people riding downstairs and quad.
Speaker 1: All in the middle of the street. Polarized street for them. Really.
Speaker 1: When dm X came street then back.
Speaker 6: There was going on playing basketball and ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was street though, and I seen dm X,
Speaker 3: I was like them niggas the street back there, them
Speaker 3: niggas blocking the roll behind, they don't care about traffic,
Speaker 3: was like, what is that with the New York niggas? Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they really made me look at them like street
Speaker 3: when I seen dm next.
Speaker 6: What to me, jay Z is all about sales. He's
Speaker 6: not necessarily about here.
Speaker 4: Here's rising and controversial are very closely tied.
Speaker 6: I don't see him being in controversy creating guy. That's
Speaker 6: just me.
Speaker 3: It's not And some people like DMX was naturally that.
Speaker 3: Remember we we had this conversation, remember New.
Speaker 6: York Williams made DMX barking.
Speaker 1: That Nigga was crazy, that Nigga was like some ship.
Speaker 1: I never that Nigga.
Speaker 3: I was like holy ship, that Nigga had no fear,
Speaker 3: no nothing. Why is this Nigga up here with no
Speaker 3: bucket socks on? In the TM bro. He wasn't even
Speaker 3: worried about bunnies.
Speaker 6: You're number one all you took the number one thing.
Speaker 6: You see?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 4: This is where kropt this glasses and blows the most
Speaker 4: hood rapper in the history of the genre because he
Speaker 4: watched all the d MX ship and the first thing
Speaker 4: that came to his mind is where is his socks?
Speaker 4: I could have watched that ship for forty hours and
Speaker 4: not know it's his fucking song.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know how cold you got to
Speaker 3: be to where tins with no socks, you worry about
Speaker 3: some of the socks.
Speaker 5: He don't get it.
Speaker 1: He don't get it trapped. We'll get it trapped more
Speaker 1: than you. Some tims put them on with no socks.
Speaker 1: Walking around, you'll.
Speaker 7: See Tim's got the level and the inside. You know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, leve the inside of the boot.
Speaker 9: You don't understand the used to having bloody feet. I
Speaker 9: watch all that imagery that New York Listen, That's the
Speaker 9: one thing I remember he didn't have.
Speaker 3: He had a He had an overall short set off
Speaker 3: with no shirt and timmeling with no socks. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: this nigga, the roughest nigga in the history. This nigga
Speaker 3: crazy and he growling and ship, what the you won't
Speaker 3: do when we run up like this?
Speaker 7: Ye?
Speaker 1: Why he wearing a change? This nigga was wearing a change.
Speaker 4: He was wearing actual change made of like compressed Allum's aluminum.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to show me easily, let me find out.
Speaker 3: It's some mo niggas. That's funny with your niggas? What
Speaker 3: that we can't handle looking up a dismantle?
Speaker 5: What is wrong with this nigga?
Speaker 4: Why is he.
Speaker 7: Bro?
Speaker 1: What is that is hip hop? That is that ship?
Speaker 5: Like that?
Speaker 1: I think, look at this, but then everybody.
Speaker 3: Behind him, you know why, Yeah, behind And it's so
Speaker 3: funny because New York Puff Puff had New York going
Speaker 3: shiny suit. Mind you, this is Mace coming this year,
Speaker 3: Mason so Puff had it, jay Z had just dropped
Speaker 3: Volume one. It was Hella Smooth, Teddy Riley Production shout
Speaker 3: out to Ted and Hella Smooth like they.
Speaker 1: Was trying to go shiny and proficient.
Speaker 3: This nigga come out with no under his overall short
Speaker 3: set and no socks and some teams like nigga.
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 6: And right after that a bunch of like drug use accusations.
Speaker 3: Ye, why is this nigga wearing a bulletproof vest? What
Speaker 3: I mean you mean to tell me he got shot
Speaker 3: nine times? And he rapping about the nigga that got
Speaker 3: him shot onto Oh this nigga crazy? Oh this I
Speaker 3: remember thinking that that's marketing. I remember Dying fifty cent
Speaker 3: album the first day came out, that move I had
Speaker 3: a bullet hole in the glass on a cover.
Speaker 1: That's marketing.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Like Tupac comes home after getting shot.
Speaker 3: He's in jail, he gets out of jail, he cussing
Speaker 3: everybody out talking crap. That is different, Snoop catch a
Speaker 3: murder case. The WEEKES album comes out, that's great, higgas
Speaker 3: for it happened.
Speaker 1: Outside.
Speaker 3: That's niggas can't imagine that the Weekes album came out,
Speaker 3: he kept a oh with the album would have sold
Speaker 3: an album called murder was the case?
Speaker 4: Question was somebody was Was there some quid pro quote
Speaker 4: backdoor action going on and saying, hey, look, I know
Speaker 4: you got this sevenus. I know you're gonna bring this charge.
Speaker 4: Can you at least bring it on a Wednesday?
Speaker 6: The third dollar time frame?
Speaker 1: There? This is what I'm trying to tell trap.
Speaker 3: I can see my confidence comes when I see Oh,
Speaker 3: I get it. I'm in the space with them. Nigga,
Speaker 3: I know what this oh ship go, all the way
Speaker 3: that nigga pop went, all the way pop went, all
Speaker 3: the week that niggas like, no, don't care, nigga, y'all
Speaker 3: nigga cussing you niggas out you niggas play with me
Speaker 3: getting shot?
Speaker 1: Nigga, I'm finished, Yeah, nigga, Now who laughing? Why fucked? Yr?
Speaker 1: What the fuck, why are you so upset?
Speaker 3: Niggas like man and then you could see niggas it
Speaker 3: was niggas at the lunch table. Shout out to the
Speaker 3: homies at the lunch table because they like, you know,
Speaker 3: he big was in this bill when it's like nigga
Speaker 3: that didn't have nothing to do.
Speaker 1: With That's how.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm thinking about now, marketing gets lost
Speaker 4: in reality. The two most wild like the two wildest
Speaker 4: mouths in the history of Barry and hip hop both
Speaker 4: got shot.
Speaker 6: Parking back Drake.
Speaker 4: Yeah, both those guys, I mean said whatever the living
Speaker 4: fuck to the.
Speaker 1: Max m.
Speaker 3: You can't some of the shit you have to help
Speaker 3: line it up, but some of the ship you can't. Right,
Speaker 3: You just got to stick around long enough for that
Speaker 3: to happen, like with Kendrick, Like you have to stick
Speaker 3: around long enough for this shit to happen, like two points,
Speaker 3: stick around long enough for this shit to happen, like Snoop,
Speaker 3: you had to.
Speaker 1: This nigga caught a murder case. That Wee Kids album
Speaker 1: came out. It was on the.
Speaker 7: New that's the That's the best marketing promotion promotion you
Speaker 7: could get me. You don't get better than that, right,
Speaker 7: that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Did that security garden the cheap Cherokee?
Speaker 4: You get a bonus out of that, man, I mean
Speaker 4: he must have got paid the hundred thousand a year
Speaker 4: and made five team.
Speaker 5: The only thing that's post of that is fifty for real.
Speaker 5: That's the next.
Speaker 3: I compare dots to it because of how you get there,
Speaker 3: how you become the conversation of the universe is different.
Speaker 3: It's always unique. How you you know it's that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Can you become the conversation of the universe right right?
Speaker 3: And how you do it is different? Snoops came from
Speaker 3: when he caught that. Michael Jackson became the conversation when
Speaker 3: his hair caught on fire. Conversation like, oh that music
Speaker 3: the Michael Jackson got it, the guy from the kids
Speaker 3: group he has now but more go get that. He
Speaker 3: was selling a million a week his hair caught on fire.
Speaker 3: He did two or three million until Thriller came out.
Speaker 3: Thriller comes out, the video he does somewhere between five
Speaker 3: and six. Just off that a loan and it's cool
Speaker 3: and his hair catches on fire. Now he's on the
Speaker 3: news every week everywhere. Motherfucker starts selling a million a week.
Speaker 3: Snoop did great, remberk Of came out. The chronic wasn't
Speaker 3: this huge album at first? The first week the song
Speaker 3: the album grew because the songs work right. Thing Dred,
Speaker 3: let Me Ride, Ghetto Boy, those songs work well right,
Speaker 3: and then it got big. Snoop was already anticipated, and
Speaker 3: then the nigga called a murder case mm hm week
Speaker 3: of his album fifty cent the way they did fifty
Speaker 3: cent ship fifty got shot nine times, you would have
Speaker 3: thought it happened two days before the album came out.
Speaker 5: What that's all you heard about?
Speaker 1: That's all I was like, Man, the nigga that dist put.
Speaker 3: A bullet hole put a bullet hole on his album cover, Kevin,
Speaker 3: He's wearing a bulletproof vets. God, hell yea ain't so.
Speaker 3: The fucking shipload the records the first.
Speaker 6: Use that to make you the whole brand and stuff
Speaker 6: and this.
Speaker 5: Whole brand, yeah, whole band. That was crazy and that
Speaker 5: never before.
Speaker 4: That's why I was looking at like numbers of like
Speaker 4: the massacre, because I fleshed on my flesh by DMX
Speaker 4: that was just riding the wave and the cotails of
Speaker 4: the first album in the movie and the massacres.
Speaker 6: The same with fifty.
Speaker 4: It was not really anything that's spectacular on it, and
Speaker 4: it was all right, but it wasn't like the first
Speaker 4: one to sell a million eight the first week.
Speaker 6: That's insane. That's just purely momentum.
Speaker 3: Shout out to no cuz. Remember so when everybody bought it, right,
Speaker 3: you hear murder was the case on the album.
Speaker 6: Sure, and it was the main song. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: the hook of the main song. And the name of
Speaker 6: the album was all of it.
Speaker 1: No, that was the second album.
Speaker 5: That was the second one.
Speaker 3: That actually on the original album the week. So imagine
Speaker 3: you see catch this murder case and then you pop
Speaker 3: an album and you see this song called murder was
Speaker 3: a case, and you listen, you like, what the fuck?
Speaker 5: Wait? Huh?
Speaker 4: Real quick, Clifford, he got the VMA's there was that
Speaker 4: much lag time.
Speaker 6: Dog That was the Doggy Style release.
Speaker 3: So remember the VVA ninety four, So so Snoop sit
Speaker 3: is like the chronic in ninety two of December, Doggy Style.
Speaker 1: In November of ninety three, murder was the case.
Speaker 3: I think it's in August of ninety four, dog Pound
Speaker 3: is in Halloween. Excuse me of ninety five, and then
Speaker 3: dog Father is in November of Yeah, November.
Speaker 6: When you say this, he got the charge the week.
Speaker 1: The album came out, Doggystown.
Speaker 6: That was Doggie sound Yes, jeez.
Speaker 1: So remember he made Murder was a case, an album
Speaker 1: that was a soundtrack.
Speaker 3: They went and made a movie after this nigga called
Speaker 3: a murder case called Murder was the case.
Speaker 1: Them niggas is crazy. Think about it. Think about what
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. I told you all a
Speaker 1: couple like a month ago.
Speaker 3: I said, you have to almost be delusional because you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to do ship that don't make sense, but
Speaker 3: it got to be your way. The nigga catches a
Speaker 3: murder case, they decide to start pushing the song murder
Speaker 3: was the case on the album. They ain't make a
Speaker 3: fucking movie about Murder was the case. He's fighting a
Speaker 3: murder case.
Speaker 4: All right, crazy, Yeah, I meant do that, and he
Speaker 4: got crazy.
Speaker 3: You can this thing up in the police, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure I'm going to pushing all the police precincts. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'd be fucking stupid. But that's why it's gotta be
Speaker 3: that deep. It gotta be bro not just the movie
Speaker 3: and the soundtrack to the album is insane. Nigga, he's
Speaker 3: actually fighting a murder.
Speaker 5: Charge during the same time.
Speaker 6: I can't believe he get held a contempt.
Speaker 1: He's fighting a murder charge.
Speaker 6: I mean they put a look, they put a what
Speaker 6: do you call it? A gag order on Trump. This
Speaker 6: guy did it the album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the motherfucking movie.
Speaker 4: I can't believe that they didn't get helld of contempt.
Speaker 4: Too fucking funny, too fucking fun.
Speaker 7: That is crazy, yeah, Johnny, Yeah, Johnny, right, yeah, Johnny.
Speaker 1: The more gear facts.
Speaker 3: Now they were tied out again, all these pussy ass
Speaker 3: fans and be that's yeah.
Speaker 1: He told himhimself the album he sold his shold him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said he did it. He took him out
Speaker 5: the lyricly.
Speaker 1: So bragging about it.
Speaker 4: It was he laundered the whole thing through the business
Speaker 4: is to Rico, everybody was. They only killed the guy
Speaker 4: so that they can.
Speaker 6: Increase the sales. Everybody's guilty.
Speaker 1: Guilty.
Speaker 6: They produced the.
Speaker 1: Song would be crazy, the whole ship out.
Speaker 5: They figured the whole out of you too, so.
Speaker 3: That they murdered this person so they could use this
Speaker 3: as a marketing. They had it to be ready for
Speaker 3: the and then they paid somebody.
Speaker 6: Chillader as guilty as accessory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have old videos, a little part of the footage.
Speaker 3: They be like, see listen all yeah, and you already
Speaker 3: know him. He sacrificed Pop. He sa sacrifice Pop.
Speaker 1: That's what he did. You know he said up because
Speaker 1: they got into it in New York.
Speaker 3: Because when he said he wasn't beefing with anybody and
Speaker 3: they came back on the airplane, nobody's fucking with him.
Speaker 1: He knew not to go to Vegas.
Speaker 3: That's what niggas because he would have been in that
Speaker 3: seat and not him.
Speaker 1: He sacrificed pot to get where he's at. Niggas is
Speaker 1: laying bro the greatest strategy.
Speaker 6: Ever had set up or whatever for business purpose.
Speaker 1: That it is crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you had a guy who's half your size
Speaker 4: sitting in front of you and the shooting thousand set.
Speaker 5: Up shott, I never heard it. Just make sure you
Speaker 5: don't shoot this crazy man, Nigga.
Speaker 3: Shout out to all of the legendary hip hop acts. Man,
Speaker 3: y'all survived some ship. If you still here, dog, I
Speaker 3: cannot believe.
Speaker 6: None of those bullets went through and hit that man.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. To be in prison right now
Speaker 3: talking about niggas on the phone. Nigga, you ain't change
Speaker 3: your life.
Speaker 6: You got works same thing. God him there made one
Speaker 6: hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Man, but now you got fuck are you? Nigga?
Speaker 3: That was like, so here's the oh man, here's a
Speaker 3: death ro marketing meeting. He caught that murder case. We
Speaker 3: got we got the best attorney. Yo, we need to
Speaker 3: really lean on this.
Speaker 4: You got the best attorney and the best.
Speaker 5: We need to We gotta next single next week. You know,
Speaker 5: we gotta have that single next week. Now, Push push
Speaker 5: what's name back? Push?
Speaker 7: Murder murder was we're gonna shoot the movements. This nigga
Speaker 7: fighting a real murder.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, it's over. That's crazy, said.
Speaker 1: Sugar is a giant target.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They were shot shooting on it bush ship.
Speaker 3: Bush ship mark bush ship shooters only to get popped
Speaker 3: bush ship mark, bulls ship hell no, hell no ship mark. Hey, bro,
Speaker 3: you gotta go with the flow because it's going crazy.
Speaker 3: Like who the fuck was shop? And then when they
Speaker 3: told if I'm snoop, they told me like, so, look,
Speaker 3: we gonna make a movie called murder.
Speaker 1: Was the CA.
Speaker 4: What nigga, what this is a snoop. Bodyguard shot that
Speaker 4: guy for self defense? Self defense for what.
Speaker 1: Issue? He made everybody so damn much money.
Speaker 4: The only defense was, you know, suffering financial losses in
Speaker 4: the down economy.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: And at this point, I gotta fucking be delusional.
Speaker 1: Because this is what you do.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, yeah, nah that the post office ain't
Speaker 3: another I'm putting them in the police office.
Speaker 1: I gotta i gotta tap in with somebody from the
Speaker 1: FED so I can.
Speaker 7: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: How did that even?
Speaker 3: I know you be on a different level when you
Speaker 3: finally get marketing because they be like, nigga, the idea
Speaker 3: or nothing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. It's just that
Speaker 7: just now, yeah, just now with the Dirt album, with
Speaker 7: the Dirk album.
Speaker 3: But they but see they couldn't time me. Imagine it
Speaker 3: came out the week of now they're trying.
Speaker 7: To know they was they was playing on coming out.
Speaker 7: But it's like right around the time he first got
Speaker 7: when you first got lot. They pushed it back, they
Speaker 7: pushed it back. It's a different kind of commitment. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's a different kind of it's a different kind of commitment. Dog,
Speaker 7: It's a different kind of commitment.
Speaker 3: He had to make a movie called murder was a case, Well,
Speaker 3: you make an album called murder was a case while
Speaker 3: fighting a murder case that your commitment to.
Speaker 5: All that was released, all that was released before the trial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the trial. I know that the I know the song.
Speaker 7: I know the song was, But what about the the
Speaker 7: movie in less than the other album?
Speaker 1: M That's what I was a while the crowd was SNOOPD.
Speaker 1: That's like you.
Speaker 6: Who you gotta make a song now called ka Rico?
Speaker 1: Man, all that ship.
Speaker 3: We're doing some bullsh it now, man, double down, just
Speaker 3: keep that. Niggas nigga called a murder case like, you
Speaker 3: know what, Hey, we got that song, We need to
Speaker 3: make that movie.
Speaker 5: Push that up. Every when it came up, never happened.
Speaker 1: Why was that song? Why you don't even have nothing
Speaker 1: to market it? That was the market.
Speaker 3: That's how I feel about pot pop saw again. This
Speaker 3: is a belief the other ship. I'm telling y'alls what
Speaker 3: them niggas told me. This is a belief. I saw
Speaker 3: them niggas used when he got shot to murder to
Speaker 3: market murder was.
Speaker 1: A case who shot you because they had.
Speaker 3: That you can hear that song to do a pot
Speaker 3: But they was like perfect moment, it was gone all
Speaker 3: the other ship, probably talking about the ship.
Speaker 1: He just had time to think about after being mad.
Speaker 3: You know how you get mad, king and then you
Speaker 3: start thinking about everything somebody did to you, but it'd
Speaker 3: be that one thing that made you mad initially, but
Speaker 3: then you be like, man, everything That's what I think happened.
Speaker 3: Like he wasn't even tripping off them, and then he
Speaker 3: saw that song come out. He was like niggas probably
Speaker 3: came him like, man, you heard that big song? Murder
Speaker 3: was a k I mean, who shot you? I was like,
Speaker 3: what he listening?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 7: He know?
Speaker 3: Damn well, I ain't had nothing to do with him
Speaker 3: getting shot. He knew exactly what he got shot about,
Speaker 3: even if nobody else knew.
Speaker 1: He knew.
Speaker 3: So it's Puck like a natural worker or something or
Speaker 3: is it I think he was.
Speaker 1: I think he always was natural with it. He knew you.
Speaker 6: Before pack was.
Speaker 4: I would say, like the district like like Pocket Snoop
Speaker 4: Snoop was a brand and without a plan, and he
Speaker 4: was a plan without a brand.
Speaker 1: And then he got a brand.
Speaker 7: He was Oh at first, wasn't worth it because because
Speaker 7: the political hip hop Ship.
Speaker 3: Because he could make records, right, he could make good records.
Speaker 3: He who had a poking how to make records early
Speaker 3: on right, he knew it. He knew it, he figured
Speaker 3: it out. But his Snoop was a brand. Snoop barely
Speaker 3: got a plan.
Speaker 1: Now, Like he's like, I get to do.
Speaker 4: Someone calls him and says, hey, we'll give you ten
Speaker 4: million to be on the corona commercially. He goes okay,
Speaker 4: and then he's and then he goes first shizzle and
Speaker 4: it's like they give him ten million dollars.
Speaker 3: Me and head asked that nigga right to lat We
Speaker 3: was up there like a month and a half a
Speaker 3: go fuck because right, so he was like, man, what
Speaker 3: made you say cousin like me? And they asked for
Speaker 3: and I was like, I knew it. He laughed, and Ship,
Speaker 3: I told you trapped. They're like, oh, we're being EDGI
Speaker 3: now the court racist edge and they're gonna be mad.
Speaker 3: He said, cuz they niggas trying to go viral. Bro,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Pop saw them niggas use who shot you?
Speaker 3: He was like, bitch as you motherfucker? Ain't he up
Speaker 3: there Byself album in Jail, got you niggas?
Speaker 5: You know what else?
Speaker 7: It was too fucking They just dropped who shot you too?
Speaker 7: It wasn't on the album, so it wasn't in the
Speaker 7: push the album Lucy that was it was a Lucy
Speaker 7: was holding like he was a Lucy.
Speaker 5: He said, Yo, put it out is.
Speaker 1: Cause it is very much like that, bro.
Speaker 3: I swear to God, like, as I'm preparing the market
Speaker 3: for this project, it's almost like.
Speaker 1: It's taking no prisoners.
Speaker 3: It's take no prisoners, bro, he was like, oh you motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Hey, what's.
Speaker 4: The backstory on the the issue where the dude got
Speaker 4: shot in the snoop thing?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 6: Because I thought it was in Pasadena?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 6: Was it like a PDL.
Speaker 5: Bunch of some ship like that?
Speaker 1: Why was? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I had to look into it.
Speaker 3: I don't really know. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: That's that's that's an undertold story that needs telling.
Speaker 3: Remember fifty was gonna do it. He was gonna do
Speaker 3: a thing about that him fight that murder case. And
Speaker 3: then they backed up. But I shouldn't that's because it's
Speaker 3: supposed to be me doing it.
Speaker 6: I don't even want to do the murder case. I
Speaker 6: want to do like what was the name of that guy?
Speaker 1: Whoever?
Speaker 3: The guy that I remember the guy's name, the recipe
Speaker 3: of that brother. I forgot his name, but I remember
Speaker 3: seeing his name.
Speaker 4: Yes, and someone Must Die is a sequel story that
Speaker 4: needs to be told. Like I don't mean to be
Speaker 4: as crass about the titles because.
Speaker 6: I don't know his name.
Speaker 3: But you know, the hard the hardest part about doing
Speaker 3: those things is when it's two street people, then you
Speaker 3: don't really give the public a chance to stay in
Speaker 3: mm hmm, that's right.
Speaker 6: Greer is a fucking machine.
Speaker 1: Philip Watermerion, I remember that now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, but see like that stuff like with with with
Speaker 3: the Hommy, with innage and ship that should be like
Speaker 3: real street ship. Like the general public don't have a like.
Speaker 3: One thing I've realized as a storyteller, bro is, you
Speaker 3: got to give the public a viewpoint inside.
Speaker 1: You can't put them weirdly.
Speaker 3: Like I was arguing with Manny about this and I
Speaker 3: was explaining to him Boys in the Hood is a.
Speaker 1: Better story than Godfather.
Speaker 3: The Godfather is a better movie than Boys in the Hood,
Speaker 3: But the story is better Boys in the Hood, right,
Speaker 3: I'm like, a lot of The Godfather is cinematography, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, callous a lot of things, guys.
Speaker 1: Even ever, that was that was.
Speaker 4: Because Mario Puzo had the number one selling book in
Speaker 4: like the World.
Speaker 6: And that's why.
Speaker 3: Again I'm not even disagreeing, but I think that's because
Speaker 3: white people like white violence and they think it's ten
Speaker 3: times more interesting as much.
Speaker 1: More interesting waiting with white mafia. That's it. That wasn't
Speaker 1: a great story. What was What was the best part
Speaker 1: of the story?
Speaker 4: What was what was the in the totalian story? Is
Speaker 4: you have a dude that's like transcended from like one
Speaker 4: country to another, from like a gutter to being a
Speaker 4: multi millionaire.
Speaker 6: To having multi regional polls and multi regional markets.
Speaker 4: It's a much more compelling story than something that happens
Speaker 4: in a three block radius.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy. In the football game, football player and haircut,
Speaker 5: white crime.
Speaker 1: Crime is more appearance. That's ridiculous. Let me have the
Speaker 1: story is not that's yeah amazing.
Speaker 5: I'm like, he's talking about Godfather three.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's that Godfather.
Speaker 3: Three Godfather two is a better story because the story
Speaker 3: is about Veto more than Michael.
Speaker 1: I agree that this story is just not really good.
Speaker 3: The movie is good, it's shot incredibly well, it's dialogue well,
Speaker 3: the acting is well.
Speaker 1: The story itself sucks fucking ball.
Speaker 5: Like he's said, it had to be a great story
Speaker 5: to get a movie movie.
Speaker 6: Discuss this. It's funny. I just I wrote a note about.
Speaker 4: This thing and an idea I have for your first
Speaker 4: movie that is very similar in this regard that you're
Speaker 4: going to enjoy.
Speaker 6: But I can't unveil it live.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm in it.
Speaker 6: Look, this is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Cap is right. The first Godfather, No,
Speaker 3: Godfather Too. Yes, the Godfather Too is a much better story.
Speaker 1: Gods good of a movie.
Speaker 3: As Godfather one, but it's a much better story the
Speaker 3: Godfather one. It's really about It's like Belly for white people.
Speaker 3: It's all cinematography, it's all really great actors, destroy yourself sucked.
Speaker 5: Story is great character developments, Godfather Too.
Speaker 3: Godfather is a much better story, but nowhere near the movie.
Speaker 3: The movie, Like the movie is about you seeing.
Speaker 7: It stick, you know, listen, man stick with boys in
Speaker 7: the hood minutes society juice that.
Speaker 3: I didn't say society. I didn't say that, you gotta
Speaker 3: stick with stuff in the hood at minutes.
Speaker 1: Is the same. I hate when you typecast.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 1: What is a fatherhood movie?
Speaker 3: What is a story about boys that don't have a
Speaker 3: father and a boy it's.
Speaker 5: About Yeah, it was the same. It was the same movie.
Speaker 1: It's not the same movie it is. You're just racist.
Speaker 5: It's the same culture. It's the same culture. It's street
Speaker 5: and culture representation.
Speaker 3: Which wanna be the most raising Hood is pretty much
Speaker 3: how you go the most realistic one that.
Speaker 5: One and uh go south Central.
Speaker 3: South Central is probably a little bit cooler of a story,
Speaker 3: but it's not a better movie.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about more realistic to what's hood.
Speaker 3: Boys in Hood is really certain homies like god Dads
Speaker 3: and certain homies that don't.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much how it okay, nothing like Colors and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Colors is a police movie. I don't
Speaker 1: know enough about police.
Speaker 5: That's what you got.
Speaker 7: That's what you're to put that against. Put that against that,
Speaker 7: put boys and hood against colors, something like that.
Speaker 3: Niggas down, Keep the niggas down, with the niggas don't
Speaker 3: put them up with the white folks to lunch hour.
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