WEBVTT - Can There Be Pride Without Shame

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<v Speaker 3>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 3>Sinners Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 3>load glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Malone, what you're drinking, pete.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, We got we got the gunpowder, Irish gin. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>keeping it very blue, got the whole. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>was by Christmas gift sets for the glasses, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm keeping it real, real thematic today.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. That's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Locked in the location for the music video. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>filling Christine this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't want too many hangers on showing up.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, we uh you know what, Yeah, we could

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<v Speaker 3>publicize it to the people. What makes this unique is

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<v Speaker 3>so I got with my homeboy Cheese. Cheese is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be a producer. That's like a big thing,

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<v Speaker 3>like a film producer. And so me and Cheese is

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<v Speaker 3>producing it together. And my videos are always like these

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<v Speaker 3>intricate kind of like I always put a lot into

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<v Speaker 3>a music video, like I always make sure it's something

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<v Speaker 3>going on, Like I don't really got videos where I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just out there rapping. Maybe that's somebody else's, but I

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<v Speaker 3>really don't do that type of video, Like it doesn't fit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, me being a storyteller.

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<v Speaker 1>So trying to schedule this one correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's like it's such a posse cut, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's more to people on the song, and then you.

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<v Speaker 3>Need a lot of extras. You need a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>extras to make it work. So I have to I

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<v Speaker 3>have to kind of like be really good with time.

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<v Speaker 3>Even some of the pre rollout content feel me like

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<v Speaker 3>I needed that day with one specific part of this

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<v Speaker 3>film studio. Mm hm, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 3>I needed to stay on top of that. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>the point when you know what to do, right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. It's overwhelmed me, so you have to really

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<v Speaker 3>delegate it. And as you organize it, you know everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they they don't know everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You would like people to help, but you realize why

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be a little bit more hands on

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<v Speaker 3>with it to see the vision all the way through.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, It's just it's it's intense, bro, It's intense.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you could do all of this ship right Pete,

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<v Speaker 3>and a motherfucker won't even see the video.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the crazy part.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for canceled, I did some really dope videos and

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<v Speaker 3>people just didn't see them.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the way you deal with baby Bash and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't that one.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the worst part. Not I didn't put him out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about people didn't see them once I put

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<v Speaker 3>him out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even talking about one you can't put out

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<v Speaker 3>that just ain't good enough, Like one of the La

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<v Speaker 3>Giants songs was like that I got. I got four

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<v Speaker 3>videos in the can that I never put out, Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>because they just wasn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But you talk about once you put out that just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they were good enough, but people just didn't see them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, you know what I mean, Like you not

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<v Speaker 3>to market. Yeah, like uh tour was dope, was dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have some dope ideas and people just.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't see them. So you could put this much into

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<v Speaker 3>art and people just won't see it. So it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>goes into how everybody in the industry at some level

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<v Speaker 3>of a storyteller, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It was really good me King and Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>this together is like you, it's like a brain child,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I mean, It's like you going

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<v Speaker 3>over the top and you have to make people see it. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>what good is being dope? If only two people know?

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of why. Like I don't agree with Kanye

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<v Speaker 3>West and the stuff he's doing, but I get why.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the type of tantrum he had to throw

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<v Speaker 3>in his mind to make sure everybody see his art.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my problem trap. I know why he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now my issue is when it leaves this space of

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<v Speaker 3>genuineness or things done in good faith. This is not

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<v Speaker 3>done in good faith. You gotta no, because you know

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<v Speaker 3>damn well, the Nazis and what's happening in the ghetto

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<v Speaker 3>streets of America is completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>So to even reference them to.

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<v Speaker 3>Kitter, to that kind of Boulet type of black audience,

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<v Speaker 3>or to white people who already feel like black people

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<v Speaker 3>making excuses for why shit is fucked up for them

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<v Speaker 3>in America is raggedy. That's my problem. My brother asked me,

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, man, why do you want to fight Kanye?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, because he's one of my favorite people,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know he's misleading people. Like the one thing

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<v Speaker 3>I expect out of my top five boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Ross why barn Ross?

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<v Speaker 3>Because Ross shit is built on a fantasy, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>built on a level of street urban culture, like people

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<v Speaker 3>that's hustling in a certain way that come from these ghettos.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also more of a fantasy land. But snoop Jay.

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<v Speaker 3>Face especially face, you know, and Yay, I expect nothing

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<v Speaker 3>but things done in good faith, kay.

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<v Speaker 6>Because nothing says good faith like Kanye West.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, I know he knows there's a difference,

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<v Speaker 3>or he maybe don't, which goes into the conversation I've

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<v Speaker 3>been having with Trapp where I don't quite think he's

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<v Speaker 3>at street urban culture as we would like to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>I think because he said Chicago, we automatically, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he gotta be from street urban because niggas, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>black man from Chicago. And it's like, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>part of it could also be maybe overinterpolated, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. I think we're giving him a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit too much credit. Sometimes it's hard. Like me and

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<v Speaker 3>Trapp used to talk about this trap to think I'm crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think like parents like trapping them age lectioning

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<v Speaker 3>them age. You know, this generation of parents, my generation

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<v Speaker 3>of parents, like where I would be if I had

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<v Speaker 3>a kid. They raised their kids completely different than we

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<v Speaker 3>were raised. True that a lot of kids like like

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<v Speaker 3>still Son, still kids, you know, shout out to my

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<v Speaker 3>big brother. Still they don't really understand They don't really

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<v Speaker 3>understand blackness the way we do. Now they're black and

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<v Speaker 3>obviously you get that, but like they don't quite get

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<v Speaker 3>it the way we get it, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Like like they really don't think it's really this racist world.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the struggles we went through.

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<v Speaker 8>Versus yeah, like not equited of it, like we knew it,

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<v Speaker 8>like we we knew it, like we wasn't that far disconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew it, Like, man, motherfuckers. They more like, see

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<v Speaker 1>I got equal opportunity. I was telling squish this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like I was telling them, I'm like, my fear

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<v Speaker 3>is poverty is disappearing because people don't really believe they're

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<v Speaker 3>being oppressed.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a conversational pivot has happened in wealth distribution

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<v Speaker 4>conversations in general, where people went from complaining about being

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<v Speaker 4>about complaining about the fact that they were poor to

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<v Speaker 4>complain about the fact that another guy is rich. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's a pretty significant shift in tone.

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<v Speaker 5>M Yeah, understood.

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<v Speaker 1>I just he brought this topic up right, like can

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<v Speaker 1>there be proud without shame?

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<v Speaker 3>And it was such a unique, you know, conversation, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like that's like, that's like Kanye, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that that made me think of him right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like is he ashamed of himself?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think that I think he's smart enough to

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<v Speaker 3>know completely right that Okay, if let's say he knows,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say he knows right, Let's say he knows. Does

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<v Speaker 3>he know he's misleading people by trying to compare what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on in the streets when it comes to crime

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<v Speaker 3>and street up and culture that lifestyle with what the

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<v Speaker 3>Nazis did, Like, does he really I cannot believe he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't know that they're completely different, like he got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he has to know that these are two

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<v Speaker 3>people fighting and you listen to people talking about fighting

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<v Speaker 3>each other versus what specifically happened with the Nazis, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, and Jewish people, Like he has

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<v Speaker 3>to know.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's more so on on it to a

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<v Speaker 7>level of them just profiting off the hip hop culture.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying. I think that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't you can't make something up? Trap what you think

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying.

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<v Speaker 5>He's saying that I was.

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<v Speaker 6>To say that I was gonna say, like the Trap's defense.

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<v Speaker 6>He's kind of gone.

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<v Speaker 4>In two directions on that topic because there has been

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<v Speaker 4>a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Jewish corporate.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, c suite discussions and also that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so there's this Jewish thing going on, but then there's

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<v Speaker 4>also simultaneously this parallel between like racially defined violence and

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<v Speaker 4>it just being the fact that there's there's between local

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<v Speaker 4>and racially defined. But he's so there there are two dimensions.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not even remotely close.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they're close. I'm saying he's just said

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<v Speaker 6>both of those things.

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<v Speaker 5>He said both of.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, but that's not what he's saying, like out to

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<v Speaker 3>facts their exclusive legs with up Bros.

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<v Speaker 1>Six Square staking for Moderae Tree. What's the deal? No, Cu,

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<v Speaker 1>what's having a black team?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think this current Nazi thing that he's doing

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<v Speaker 4>now is a continuation of his Jewish corporate boardroom ownership

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<v Speaker 4>thing from like last year or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those No, he's doing that right now, he's

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<v Speaker 3>tweeting it right now. He's specifically saying, he specifically said

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish people are profiting from black pain. So why is

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<v Speaker 3>he man that he's wearing black pain. It's like Nigga

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<v Speaker 3>that is not remotely close to.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing. It's not even remotely close.

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<v Speaker 7>What I'm saying is to the point of him saying,

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<v Speaker 7>like they're profiting off of black pain, and which is

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<v Speaker 7>which is the music he would rather off of?

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<v Speaker 6>Black pain? Is what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he don't know, don't don't don't have a point

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<v Speaker 1>neither this, Kanye.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you, that's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what he's saying. I'm listening to what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 3>You're hoping this is what he means, because you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to consider that it's just selfish and really don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a bottom line or a point.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just really even.

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<v Speaker 7>If it's about if it's about them profit enough of

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I'm saying, people talking about killing each

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<v Speaker 7>other and ship like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Though the Jewish.

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<v Speaker 1>Equivalent to what happened with Nazis and Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he's using them in the same reference paragraph all

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<v Speaker 3>the times. And then obviously he's catering to a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of black people, like a version of Boulet people or

0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.240
<v Speaker 3>people who just don't know what else to do. So

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<v Speaker 3>like Sherry, where they're just looking to they already mad,

0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.079
<v Speaker 3>they already feel like, oh this is ignorant, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, I cannot believe Kanye has no complete

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<v Speaker 3>idea that these are two different PEPs. This ain't even

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<v Speaker 3>like Israel versus Hamas or nothing like.

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<v Speaker 5>This is different.

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<v Speaker 3>So this morning I was talking to Doucemac, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>Douchemac was saying, and Douce Mac was saying like he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was saying, like, there's a lot of rappers, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of rappers that are anti street, right, which they

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<v Speaker 3>are anti people talking about how they had to come

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<v Speaker 3>up or how they're surviving, right, whatever crime that is, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And he was saying that they have such a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with that type of artist, right, But then again they

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<v Speaker 3>turn around and rap about the same things. They'll start

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<v Speaker 3>rapping gun bars or violent bars, but they have no

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<v Speaker 3>cognitive understanding of what that means. And he was saying

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<v Speaker 3>it was a lot of rappers like that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>thought about it, and even like A J. Cole, who

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<v Speaker 3>I consider had one of the greatest twenty careers of all.

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<v Speaker 1>Hip hop artists, Right, he'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Say some things and I don't think he quite understands

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<v Speaker 3>that that came from something real. He'll reference murdering in

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<v Speaker 3>MC but he felt like, well, I'm doing it poetically, Nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>That's not how it was intentionally created by the artists

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<v Speaker 3>that decided to use that. And I was telling him,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when certifiers first came out, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>like big Man like I said, Certified was like fifty

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<v Speaker 3>six on the charts for some new watchcrip rap nigga

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<v Speaker 3>on a big billboard high one hundred charts, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I had a line in there, laughing at

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<v Speaker 3>these rap niggas running from shug. That was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the lines, right. And I remember my intention when I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote that is to run in the shug like and

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed I wrote everything I say with intentions to

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<v Speaker 3>say it to the person that I'm talking to. When

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<v Speaker 3>I rap, huh, what were you gonna say? The sugar

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<v Speaker 3>nor from you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually I did ask him that too. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>But did you do a whole song It's called something

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<v Speaker 3>like like shure, Yeah, a whole song.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but the point I'm saying is to peach point,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a bunch of people kind of You see

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people on the internet talking crazy and

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<v Speaker 3>you could prove them in a lie, but because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have no shame, you know what I'm saying, it

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<v Speaker 3>won't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I think it is with.

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<v Speaker 3>These MC's, Like all these mcs who be anti street,

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<v Speaker 3>but then they start using things that were popularized in

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<v Speaker 3>the streets. But then you try to use them metaphorically

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<v Speaker 3>or poetically. It's weird. Like I was telling somebody the

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<v Speaker 3>other day who was I talking to. I was talking

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<v Speaker 3>to Homie Champ and I was telling Champ. I was like, look, Champ,

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think what was his term he said. He

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to me about game.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that don't bother you that, you know, something

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<v Speaker 3>that caused the lives of so many young men is

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<v Speaker 3>now you know, national and people are just picking it

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<v Speaker 3>up and they're doing anything. And I'm like, no, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see it like as this thing that's just people die,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. I see it that chilling

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<v Speaker 3>with my homeboys, my homeboy teaching me how to fish,

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<v Speaker 3>me trying to make money meat, Like I see more

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<v Speaker 3>of the glass half full than the glass half empty.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, yeah, but you don't look at

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<v Speaker 3>it frown on it. I'm like, I said, no, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you know, street urban culture is all about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what black people do when they get a hold

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<v Speaker 3>of some culture, especially at the poorest levels, right, they

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<v Speaker 3>do that. And I was like, that's like if hip hop,

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<v Speaker 3>like imagine New York seeing me rapping, and they like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>look at so West Coast nigga trying to rap nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know, Like I don't. He's like, well, that's different,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I'm like, that's not different that like you

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<v Speaker 3>you thought hip hop belonged to all of us, know,

0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:54.800
<v Speaker 3>that was New York nigga shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we got our hands on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, So, what do I look like being upset

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<v Speaker 3>that somebody's claiming grave street wats in New Jersey? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>more flattered, you know what I'm saying. So I told

0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.520
<v Speaker 3>him that's what we do. I said, imagine if taco

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<v Speaker 3>stayed in Mexico, in just the poorest ghettos of Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>or if spaghetti stayed in the poorest ghettos of Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we do. That's what poor people do. We share,

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<v Speaker 3>culture spread, we share.

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<v Speaker 4>So random question in the macro because there's not data

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<v Speaker 4>available to like research this, So just in your opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>let's say, like of like violent street crime whatever, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a certain amount that's priced in, and then you inject

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<v Speaker 4>like intergenerational gangs on top of that. That's what I

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of saying like on the pod yesterday or

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it was off of back, I can't remember. How

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<v Speaker 4>like you can be like sixties in there for three

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<v Speaker 4>four generations, but like sort of little cruise in Oakland

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<v Speaker 4>or Miamia are sort of they come, they go, they're gone,

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<v Speaker 4>then the new people come a truck.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think that having gangs like that where you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can like you can inherit a beef, but you also

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<v Speaker 4>have stability, So is it a net positive or a

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<v Speaker 4>net negative? And that like people will say, like a

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<v Speaker 4>Tsadam Hussein was like a brutal leader, but shit was stable.

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<v Speaker 4>You take him out and it goes crazy, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So like do you think relative to like what the

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<v Speaker 4>priced in amount is that that actually reduces or adds to.

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<v Speaker 6>In the in the macro like.

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<v Speaker 1>Aggregate short be given to me. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that having gangs that are perpetually there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and that you come into a gang that's

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<v Speaker 4>constant so people go out and people come in, but

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<v Speaker 4>like the gang has its area, it's goddess people whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>do you think that it reduces more like power vacuum

0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.480
<v Speaker 4>violence so to speak, Then it creates by virtue of

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<v Speaker 4>people coming into existing conflicts.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm, well, so that's one of those things that's overstated.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't really come into existing conflicts the way you

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<v Speaker 3>would think.

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<v Speaker 1>You're pretty much gonna have your own shit going on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, shout out to the Black Team much love Black Tea.

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<v Speaker 3>What up, John p Lex, show it up? Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>show is dope. Dudes claiming Grape Street in New Jersey

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<v Speaker 3>is extremely corny, not really bro okay, So, like this

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna sound crazy because I understand the history of

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<v Speaker 3>Grape Street, right versus y'all. Well, y'all like Grape Street, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand when it first started, it's wat's video great?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>If you go to most of the older dudes from

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<v Speaker 3>Gray Street that's in their sixties and seventies, all of

0:20:54.840 --> 0:21:00.199
<v Speaker 3>them got w VG tatted on them. What's video great? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that feels like it's Grave Street. But there's a

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<v Speaker 3>layer and a difference of that particular group of men together.

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:08.680
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>And then now they.

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<v Speaker 3>Have ESK right east side kids and they have other

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 3>gangs there. That's these are the gods that's in their

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 3>fifties and sixties, right, and then so now here they

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:28.000
<v Speaker 3>are doing a thing blah blah blah. Great street forms

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<v Speaker 3>right after the tail end of that when you hear

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 3>people say great street wise, right, And then after that

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<v Speaker 3>right comes this really popular expressing. Everybody heard baby Low

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<v Speaker 3>cryp Right, that's guys that's in their fifties and forties

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 3>ESK east Side kids, so forties and fifty right, baby

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<v Speaker 3>low crip. Everybody heard them nigga say on baby Low.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of a different but the same gang. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna have unique problems than the guys from Watch

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Body of grapead because they're a group of young men

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 3>and poor people going around making their own legacy, trying

0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 3>to build their own name. So that situation looks different, right,

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<v Speaker 3>does that make sense? And then after that, right, you

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.160
<v Speaker 3>got the guys that's my generation, right, the guys as

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 3>and they that's in their forties, late thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's Peterole Dutch Town.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you ever heard somebody like a great Street

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<v Speaker 3>thing on Peterow or Da Da Da, that's another gang

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<v Speaker 3>right there that's kind of in the same umbrella as

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<v Speaker 3>the Grape Street moniker.

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<v Speaker 1>The point I'm saying is it's not like one gang

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<v Speaker 1>that goes in these same.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys like the older guys won't have a problem with

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 3>the Bonnie Hunters, but this generation got a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>the Bonniehunners, you feel me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so it comes.

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<v Speaker 3>Across like here it is all these guys beef, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not. If all these guys beef, the violence the

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<v Speaker 3>crime wright will be way higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? You get what I'm saying? Yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like that's the same thing for Long Beach.

0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Long Beach is for like in the insayings they have,

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 3>you got the insagings, that's trade n of age, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you got the guys that's my age, right, the

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<v Speaker 3>Hammy Clint Sight, They youngs. I mean they youngs, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Fred is a young I think Fred is from young Yeah, right,

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:18.959
<v Speaker 3>they're my age and younger. And then you got the

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<v Speaker 3>generation like d W Flame uh uh sobby third babies,

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<v Speaker 3>and they all kind of have their own ecosphere going.

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 3>It's all kind of shit happening. What makes their movement

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<v Speaker 3>unique outside of it? So I think where the concept

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 3>believe is like these are you know, the inner generational beasts.

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.120
<v Speaker 3>There are certain gray streets that don't even meet a trades.

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Let me see there's certain six oers that don't even

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<v Speaker 3>meet a trades.

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<v Speaker 6>Try to get that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's probably the same thing if you were

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<v Speaker 4>to analyze like Italian mafias and different families when they

0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 4>have a different leader have different peace and conflict eras

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 4>based off of the like trajectory. That's like, forget what

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 4>family that one dude that god he killed, you know,

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 4>big Big Joe or a big PAULI whatever. I'm sure

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 4>like that ten year period had its leadership structure and

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 4>its agenda. He's gone, you have new leadership, there's a

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 4>new agenda with new people involved. So they might have

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 4>a different relationship with different people, different groups, so there's

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 4>gonna be different dynamics in different chemistry.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's probably any different in any other way.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Diamond Basket Time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not knocking it, but it does feel odd to

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 3>represent from a hood in another state in constant grind.

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 3>If I remember correctly, the bloods we sourced from Swans,

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 3>but none of them said they were from Swans. Okay,

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 3>so imagine like you starting to rap and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>call it hip hop, but you pretty much emulating hip hop.

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<v Speaker 3>What's more, of a h a weird move, the fact

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 3>that you actually emulating what these guys are doing and

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 3>then to deny it came from them, or to accept

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 3>it and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Put your own spin on it.

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Like when I go to Gray Street in Jersey again,

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 3>like I just told you the history of Gray Street

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 3>that they don't have to have a great in Jersey,

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 3>but there's a lot of Gray Street.

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't Gray Street at first?

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 4>How did that happen? Did a guy from Grape Street

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 4>like move there? Or did they just somebody went to

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:37.199
<v Speaker 4>prison there? Okay, So it's like it's not about the

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 4>street signs, you know what I mean? And this is

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 4>the hardest part to understand. The pride that comes in.

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 4>This is about the people. It's not the sign the sign.

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 3>That's why I keep giving you different names, right, I

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 3>keep telling you the same gang. And they're not subsets.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 3>They're actually weirdly, they're their own games. It's like, it's

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 3>not like the United States of America with his effect tax.

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like that's why that's why people fight each other

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 3>within these situations like some are but then some do

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 3>their own thing.

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 1>So don't get me wrong, Like.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I can get the feel of a subset, but it's

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 3>a little trickier. It's not about the street sign, if

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 3>that makes sense, you know. I mean, it's not about

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the street sign. It's about the people. The comaraderie to

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 3>get down. The street sign don't matter. So you can

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 3>get a Hoover in Houston, and like I've been with

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 3>the Hoovers in Houston, and I respect they get down

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 3>because really it's their friends and their family and their homies.

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>They got their own beasts, they don't.

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 3>It ain't like when when Hoover went down there, Oh,

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 3>we don't like neighborhoods.

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>They gonna have their own enemies.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 3>They gonna have a bunch of other guys that's fighting

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 3>over the same resources that they fighting over, and that's

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 3>gonna be the person they're competing with and and and

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 3>having issues with.

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's not like you know, now, I got it.

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I had a conversation with homie from a trade in

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 3>New York and is big in New York, shout out

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 3>to the hommies out there, But they were trying to

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 3>absorb the neighborhood beef. And I remember telling them, like,

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 3>that's not really the thing to do. You're gonna have

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 3>your own enemies. You in New York, trust me, it's

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna be some people that do not like you exist

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 3>and they want to compete for whatever you're whatever you're

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 3>trying our team, You're gonna make your own beasts, just

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 3>like every generation of a game. My older homies, they

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 3>class the most, were Promenodes. Every Promenokee I ever met

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 3>my life has usually been the coolest motherfucking the world.

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 3>My younger homies they had they thing with the Monas.

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 3>The Monas was my guys. We cut our bones beefing

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 3>with Carver Parks. The carver Parks and my homies are

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 3>the closest. The younger homies is the closest people in

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 3>the world. So it's not quite in a generation of

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 3>you know shit you absorbed? Is that because they only

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 3>look at it like crips only beef with bloods?

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 5>Is that?

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Is that part of the reason too, No, it's just

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 3>a nuance that like crips can't be for crips. Just

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about the public. See the way the public

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 3>views it, mm hmm, because I know how it works myself.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>So I'm talking about the public viewing it that way.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 3>They don't have any information that's the point of hip hop.

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 3>It's supposed to be the CN end of the ghetto.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 3>So like I broadcast detailed, nuanced understanding of what's happening

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 3>in the ghetto, and that may not be the greatest thing.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm a lot more Barbara Walters or whoever that

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 3>specialist is than just the main dream version of Don Lemon,

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 3>you know that just kind of glances over the ship,

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 3>like I'm calling the game for real, this is the game.

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>This ain't ESPN. I'm not stephen A. Smith giving you

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 3>the highlight the dunk or who's the people that do

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 3>the highlights?

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>You know whoever does this saying my wraps ain't Sports Center?

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Other people raps are sports Center. Here go to slam dump.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 3>A lot of niggas movies are Sports Center rap dump.

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Here's a dude, map cord, here's a steal. You know,

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 3>remember they wrap a forty eight minute game in less

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>than sixty seconds.

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Boy, Pete, they have you're.

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 4>The thirty for thirty. Here's what we're doing seventeen for

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 4>seventeen seventy minute, deep deep research, bio, real, real life, you.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Know, shorts.

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 4>We don't have to be a thirty minute. Shit about

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 4>thirty for thirty. Fuck it, we're doing seventeen for seventeen that.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 3>But that's how my raps are anyway, Like my wraps

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 3>are not like the surface level like not this and

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>nobody else. But I'm saying they have a surface level taste.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 3>So that's why people think, like gangs is about street

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 3>signs color, that's a surface level Take my shit is not.

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 3>This ain't a film. This is a documentary, you know

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. I'm walking you really through the nuances

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 3>of it, and and I and I accept what it

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 3>is as a responsibility.

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 6>So like because I think we're kind of getting at it,

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 6>like different.

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 4>Neighborhoods or different crews have like a different like cultures,

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 4>like nuances of culture. Right, So for example, like you

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 4>said south Side back in the day, south Side was

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 4>really about getting their their their bread, like that was

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 4>kind of their thing, versus like say you would discuss

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Devers were like they were with the ship like for real.

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>But but I also don't want to conflate like the

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 3>south Side that was gangsters the whole time.

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>They just had homies.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 3>That was rich too, deals had some deals has some people.

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 3>But yes, I agree you're right, but like the branding

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 3>aout definitely rich people.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>They have rich homies.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 6>Sure, so like I see a culture within your neighborhood

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 6>that would be you take that somewhere else or whatever.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 4>You know that that might specifically embody more with you

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 4>and your ten people that fuck with you were about

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 4>than just something broader or more generic. It's like, nah,

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 4>we don't really don't get out like them. This is

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 4>this is what we're really about.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 3>But that's gonna be. And that's what happens in every generation.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>It gets defined a little different. Shout so far.

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 4>As white grape is over there, some guy says, this

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 4>is what grape is to me and to us. I'm

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 4>here now, so this is what we're about. If you

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 4>fucking with me, this is how we do it.

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't, yes, yes, I mean this is how it sounds.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Ten Trade Day in Newark, bro It was more people

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>at the ten Trade Day in Newark than the one

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 3>and watch that I believe for sure. I mean, and

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I knew that that ship was real.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Mhm. They wasn't. That, don't get me wrong.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Like hip hop they took they have some of the

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.479
<v Speaker 3>things that we identify, and they have some things, but

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 3>they have a special way that they do it. That's

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 3>what I respect. That's what I respect about the Ugs

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>and flat Bush. That's what I respect about the one

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Aighties and the Bronx. That's what I respect about the

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Brands and and and.

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Staten Island.

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 3>This is what I respect A Trays and this is

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 3>what I respect about them. They have their own way

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and that's why they get my respect.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Now, if you're trying to emulate what some other brothers

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 3>is doing, you're trying to beat them, then that's where

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 3>you would lose. But Nah, when I went to the

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 3>ten Trade Day in Newark and that projects bro them

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 3>niggas was out there, and I could tell they had

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 3>a flair that made me like see it, Like, oh

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 3>that's player.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>These niggas. It's East Coach cripping.

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 3>It ain't really not like the gang East Coast, but like, yeah,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 3>nigga tried state cript. These niggas really had their own

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>flare and I respected it, Like I was like, oh

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>this player, I can fuck with these niggas.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I didn't look at it, huh.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 4>With Harlem's like like like Pea Stones has a Chicago

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 4>route right, Yeah, the l a Ones.

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because because the boy came from recipes of the

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 3>t Rogers, he came from Chicago and brought it here.

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's the perfect example. He made it. He made it

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>fit Los Angeles.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Like if if he tried to raise that exact same

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 3>version of stones in La we don't have the atmosphere

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.719
<v Speaker 3>the ecosystem to grow it. But because he catered it

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.959
<v Speaker 3>to fit this particular part of the earth, it ended

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 3>up becoming one of the most powerful group of men

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 3>in the history you know of street up and culture.

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Like they're a powerful group of people. Uh, set out

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 3>to the Donna streets. I was tweeting this. I was saying,

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 3>that ship we went going everywhere else down the streets

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 3>in Vegas is dope.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 7>Make that ship that like the like descriptions right there

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 7>for real, for real?

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Shut out to John, Welcome to the Lost Table, my guy,

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh I send you here.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>You give me ship.

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 3>But Malone, don't you also take up artistic privilege by

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 3>altering the story.

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Altering which story specifically? Tem Rodgers is one of the

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>coolest people I.

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Ever met in the streets ever, like a man of wisdom,

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? I never forget. We went

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 3>and ate at at the Roscos in Inglewood, right.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>We met up. I was helping him with some film stuff.

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 3>When I was helping him, and he just he always

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 3>showed me love his son rest in peace to his son.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Was like, that was really my guy. Lucky was my guy.

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And we ate and.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 3>When I went I was waiting on him right now,

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 3>tem Rodgers, No, I'm a crib from the east side whatever,

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 3>but you know so I'm glasses whatever. So we're in

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Inglewood right, blood Central and Inglewood, you know, in the

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>center of it, especially some of the root more roofless

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 3>bloods and history.

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>So we in there.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting on him. He come sit down, and where

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 3>my back is at? He like, ain't no door behind me?

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.720
<v Speaker 3>He said, Now, young glasses, before we start this meeting,

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 3>he said, it's on me. First off, I'm treating, he said,

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 3>but if we need to get up out of here,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, how are we getting up out of here?

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 3>He was saying that there was no doors behind your cloak.

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I said, yea, I'm gonna go through this window.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Dude, top like Malcolm got all that ship from him,

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Like you don't like how.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.240
<v Speaker 6>Funk sha works with lighting.

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Sure, Malcolm will walk into a restaurant and have to

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.439
<v Speaker 4>sit there's only two three tables in the joint. He'll

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 4>actually sit down at for purposes a strategic movement.

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous. No, see, but at the table. Yeah, I had

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 3>to go through windows. I don't look for doors. I

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 3>look through for windows. Table through window.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 6>Like that's drywall. We can go through that easy.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:12.280
<v Speaker 5>If it's.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Yo, yo, look for the door. Oh, shout out to John.

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>He said. The narrative of the death row chain.

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.479
<v Speaker 3>So it's not a narrative right that there's a thing

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 3>that that people believe happened and people that didn't believe happened.

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 3>It's always been right up the middle for people. The

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 3>person the person in actual question that it didn't happen.

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Tray said it didn't happen to him. He told me, like, man,

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 3>that didn't even happen. They didn't get my chain, but

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 3>everybody else said they got a chain. And that is

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the conversation of the story. So that's the point of it.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't, I don't to me. If if no chain

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 3>is took right, then Tupac just looks like a gang member.

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Specific I'm sorry to catch all up with two pac

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 3>months die. So Trayvon from the mob. Trayyon is Trayon

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Lane from the mob.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>We talked after. You know, he felt some kind of

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>way like, man, Glass, you're telling this story. You made

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>me look.

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I guess he felt like it wasn't flattering, you know

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. And he was like, man, they ain't

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 3>even get my chain. But there's other honemies from the

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 3>mob that said it did. That's not important. When he

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 3>told you that, no, no, there was no bounty on

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 3>the change. That was a lie too. That was never

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 3>a real bounty. Again, the l a thing Mark is

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 3>you don't really people snatch change because that's just what

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.959
<v Speaker 3>you do when you're in the fight. It's not really

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the bounty.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 5>Who was supposed to be You said it was supposed

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 5>to be a bound on a chain.

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 3>This was the ship that people said, puff said, but

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 3>none of nobody ever verified that it would have been aget,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 3>it'd have been a different target. So nobody believed that

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 3>that that's probably not true. But so he was saying

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 3>that he felt that the conversation. But I'm like, okay,

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>imagine if I tell that story and it was just

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 3>a gang fight and now Tupac rushed that manner.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Tupac looks like a gang maker, Like it's already questions.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't know if you really want to

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 3>do it that way, Like at this point you still

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.760
<v Speaker 3>The reason that part of the story makes sense, John,

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 3>is because it gives you the chance to see Tupac

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>either as being a loyalist to somebody that he felt

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 3>was a friend, or you could see him as somebody

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>acting like he's from the mob and wanting to participate

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 3>in the street. I gave you an option, John, Like

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 3>you have an option now, you know what I mean.

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>So I understood what trade was mad for. You know

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. But again, it's like everybody told the story.

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 3>They not gonna protect your legacy because I'm gonna have

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 3>way more respect for you than everybody else because I

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 3>know what you've been through.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>The rest of these people don't give too fucks about you.

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 5>So that is the way to flip it through.

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:07.959
<v Speaker 1>But I always say that all the time.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 3>It be certain people online it's like Adam twenty two,

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Like Adam twenty two don't have no shame? Yeah, Like,

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 3>how do you argue with somebody who you know you

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 3>don't even care if his old lady sleep with the

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 3>other men.

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. You said, Okay, you know

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 3>That's the John. But that's what I'm saying. You alfered

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 3>the narrative from what is probably true. No, I didn't

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>offer the narrative because there's always been this conflict of

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 3>what's true and what's not.

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 6>You probably is as subjective in that.

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no The truth is questionable and probably it's

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.439
<v Speaker 3>not realistic. It's it was always people who said it did,

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 3>and people said it well everybody else said he did.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 6>One person said it did, and that one person.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Guys.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but like at all, just inherently giving the nature

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 4>of how that all played out, hasn't it.

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 6>Set up to say it didn't?

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Sure, shout out the dog Walk Rehab. Sorry I'm late, guys.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 3>We can start now, and we was waiting we started, boy,

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he was waiting on you.

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 6>He learned from King, So you know, he's just following

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 6>the rules.

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 3>That's what I tell exactly. That's what I tell the

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 3>hummies all the time. Like I'm not really cut out

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 3>to dude what they do. Like at the community, I'm

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 3>like the people you're arguing with don't have no shame,

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>like all the people on the internet argument you can't

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 3>have no shame. Like like if I got my ass

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>with the ship, I just wouldn't be showing up on

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 3>the internet talking ship for sure. I'd be like, yeah,

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I ain't like these niggas to get beat up and

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 3>be talking crazy.

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.359
<v Speaker 1>The next day, Aaron the Plumber.

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 5>That was crazy.

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Clumber.

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 3>He said, you know, Share is somewhere mad as condo facts,

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.760
<v Speaker 3>but that goes along with what you're saying, people talking

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 3>shit and really, don't you know I don't want it. Yeah,

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you. I was listening to my repression fit.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I was reading his tweets and it was just like

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 3>I was reading his tweets and he was just going

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 3>off as ship and he was just like talking shit

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 3>about black people. He was like, you know, I don't

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 3>like fucking with you know niggas because you know, they

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 3>get mad and they want to fight. You don't like,

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't have been around black people Like that's not

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 3>the story. But I think again, it's a bunch of

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 3>people who conflate with what they see is going on

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 3>on the internet. And he had no shame, like he's

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 3>sitting his black ass up there on that video saying

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 3>all that shit. He don't have no shame. How your

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>black ass sitting up there on that thing doing that.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>You can't have no shame. So that means you can't

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 3>have no pride.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You can't. So if you got if they're shamed, there's

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 1>no pride.

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.280
<v Speaker 6>If there's no shame, there's no shame.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>There's no pride.

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 4>Like there can be a yang without a yang, so

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 4>to speak.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:05.479
<v Speaker 1>Is that fair trap?

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for the most part, you know, I mean, I

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 5>mean what you're saying, Like.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 4>For example, women live in a universe without consequences. We

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 4>can all agree on that, right, there's no consequences. Can

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 4>there really be disciplined? No, because discipline is based on

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 4>the idea that consequences exist.

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>So with no discipline, is there same.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 6>With no discipline?

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, with no discipline, there is if you if shame

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 9>and consequences exist.

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but see with with then no pride, Yeah, pride

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 7>coming for the shame though like that with then with

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 7>with with the saying that the discipline but a shame,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 7>I guess so I guess you, I guess we speaking.

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 6>A different spectrum lines but they're parallel.

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 3>No, because that goes back to the subject of Kay,

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 3>you know what he did was that prideful thing he

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 3>felt he did you know for himself, that was shameful

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 3>to everybody else and he just don't recognize it now.

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 3>So so here's a perfect example. Right, we use this

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 3>term bitch ass nigga in the community, right, A lot

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 3>of these times we use. But I don't think we

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 3>understand wish language. No, No, I get, but I get

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>people don't understand what these things. It means that as

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 3>a male, you're acting like a woman, right, and acting

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 3>like a woman could be a few things, right. One

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 3>of the things is unaccountability right where you lack accountability

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 3>like Kanye.

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>So somebody would look at him right now say he's

0:43:57.960 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>acting like.

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 3>A blah blah blah because right now, like if he's

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 3>talking about his kids, he's like, none of y'all speaking

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 3>up for me, and everybody is looking at him like nigga.

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Everybody told you don't mess with this lady. This lady is.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Not Hip hop has a golden rule. It's been through

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:25.280
<v Speaker 3>and through since the eighties. This is a street urban rule.

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 3>Do not turn a hole into a housewife. So when

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>you decided that you were not under the guise of

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 3>these cultural standards, You're like, I'm better than that. I'm

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 3>going to be the biggest pop artists in the world.

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be Walt Disney. I'm going to be

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Ralph Lauren.

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 6>You.

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Black with black is going to be a level of

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 1>pride that.

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 3>You just have in this country, because it's really hard

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 3>to come through it without it. Even for somebody who

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.879
<v Speaker 3>may you know they have not experienced a bunch of

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 3>oppression or lack of opportunities, you're gonna notice it when

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 3>you somewhere and just sheer like lack of other people

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 3>you see that look like you in successful spaces. So

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.879
<v Speaker 3>when he's going off like, oh, you know, nobody's saying nothing,

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 3>jay Z not saying nothing, jay Z not saying nothing,

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like, Bro, he told you so now, and that's

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 3>his whole ploy. I'm mad because y'all letting this happen

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 3>to me. I can't see my kids. Yeah, you know

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 3>these white women, Bro, she wasn't a white woman when

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 3>you was dunting for her. We was telling you she

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a sister then, and then what could happen to you,

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 3>so now you're upset.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why people label him that.

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 4>It's really remarkable for us like that, a family that's

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 4>most famous because it had one of the most high

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.920
<v Speaker 4>profile litterg gators in the country as its former patriarch.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 4>You thought, let me position myself to get into a

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 4>legal battle with these people.

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 5>Right right, I don't mess Christ.

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to two thousand and five Kanye two thousand

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 3>shoutouts to no two thousand and five. Kanye won in

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and ten. Kanye, but man was fully on.

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Can't tell me nothing about facts. Yeah, shout out to

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 3>John H. Flinches, big ups and glasses. But back there

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 3>you said, if the attempt is still to change is

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 3>the truth, the situation makes no sense for for Pak

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 3>to attack Lane. But honestly, John is a little bit

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 3>more trickier than that. I actually think Pac was from

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 3>the mob. That's what I think now. Whether the change,

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't even put a lot of thought into if

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.840
<v Speaker 3>if if Trey's chain got took that wasn't even the

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 3>most important part to me, because the one thing that

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.439
<v Speaker 3>I am certain of is Pac was banging the mob,

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and that's the one thing that hasn't been verified. But

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 3>that's the one thing that I'm certain of. So now

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the world they're not as certain. They

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 3>cannot believe how could Pop come from being a panther

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 3>type character to being a blood so they don't want that.

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 3>So I can tell he was banging the mob. I

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:22.959
<v Speaker 3>could tell how he was going. I can look at things,

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 3>I can listen to what he's saying, not just in raps,

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 3>and feel like, oh yeah, he pressing.

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 1>A line.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 6>Like nobody in the history of the world.

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You said, who.

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:40.760
<v Speaker 5>A lot of shit, A lot of ship.

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Like.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 4>So I get around and then just keep your head up, baby,

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 4>I know I knocked you up.

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 5>When I'm out of here, man, A lot of ship.

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Again, It's like, you know what I'm saying, like I can't.

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Now if I give you my opinion of that, right,

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 3>then that's different. I'm not trying to convince y'all.

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to convince nobody that Pac was banging

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 3>them out. That's not even the Really, the story wasn't

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 3>even John, wasn't about the story wasn't about change. The

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 3>story wasn't even about Tupaca. It was all about game

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Mo reality. How we understand if y'all jump on somebody,

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 3>if you jump on somebody from somebody by themself, if

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 3>you treat them unfair, we understand morally, you're probably gonna

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 3>get some bullets. That was the That was the point

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 3>of Tupac Must Die. It was the the.

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 4>It was more about the crypt side of it, not

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 4>to make it from the colors or game side.

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 3>It was more or less the the l a street

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 3>are and cultural part of that, the morality being one

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 3>of the aspects of culture, the view.

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 6>Of the shooter, not anything else.

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Was really incidental because it doesn't matter the fact that

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 4>that went on today. That guy and he perceives it

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 4>that way, and he has to respond to it this

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 4>way in order to restore what is important to him

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 4>is the story.

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 6>All the rest of the details are really neither.

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, Pete. That's the point.

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, It's it's almost like the street version of like

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 4>that scene that you're not supposed to talk about in

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 4>that movie that Edward James almost made that never was

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 4>really made when he got messed with and then stabbed

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 4>the dude, which never happened in the scene was never filmed,

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 4>and we never saw it at the Youth.

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Camp shout out to dog Walk Rehab.

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he felt like he had to be loyal

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 3>to Shugar for bailing him out. I don't think so,

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 3>dog Walk. I think Pak is really like a loyalist.

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Like I think he didn't have to feel like it.

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 3>He was like, yeah, I'm riding with you.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 6>And I think he liked being a part of a brand.

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 6>I think he liked I think he liked.

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:57.919
<v Speaker 1>On with the ship.

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Bro, why would you not want to death Row at

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 3>the time is the most powerful thing moving. It's the

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 3>most respected thing moving, and the most powerful thing moving.

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.720
<v Speaker 3>They come get you out of jail. He had wrote letters,

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Pocket wrote letters to different people. They was making calls

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 3>to different labels like just get us out. We'll give

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 3>you four albums for this. People were like, nah, this

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 3>motherfucker got a platinum album right then and there. They're like, yeah,

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 3>you on your own, my boy, like Nigga, he had

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 3>just made and this go twenty million dollars plus and

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 3>they just leaving him in jail, you know what I mean.

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:39.399
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm slick Rick. He chieved me, Like I'm slick Rick.

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Think about something he just get Then here comes sug

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:49.399
<v Speaker 3>who was probably at this point on the hip hop

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 3>side of the production, not the record label, not the

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 3>big label, but on the hip hop side, on the

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 3>production side, that's the puffs, the j princes, the drapers,

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 3>that he's the most powerful guy in the game.

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And he comes and get you out.

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Man, I'm feel fucking nigga over for you. I don't

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 3>owe you nothing. I gave you the records, but now, nigga,

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 3>I know you fuck with me. That's what I feel

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 3>like I got from Pop I got. Oh you y'all

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 3>fuck with me like Trey embracing him, trade, bringing him around,

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Trayvon Lane bringing him around

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:22.919
<v Speaker 3>and fucking with Heim, showing him the homies, They showing

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 3>him love, and man, this shit is like that. How

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 3>y'all think, Wayne, God damn people, this shit really will

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 3>embrace you and you will get a family that you

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:33.879
<v Speaker 3>never had, a group of men that you never had

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 3>to show you love. You never had nothing like this before.

0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:42.839
<v Speaker 4>Well real quick, tray Von Lane, he said, yeah, yep,

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 4>so Lane was the name of two of the three

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 4>pivotal characters involved in this.

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:53.320
<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's fucking impossible, man, that's crazy.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 7>It's crazy. What a coincidence. That's crazy. It's kind of crazy.

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Now, so so.

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 7>You feel like that's the first time he because he

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 7>from He's from Oakland, right, you say from Oakland, So

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:12.839
<v Speaker 7>he ain't get that type of love in Oakland. Sign

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 7>he came to caliar.

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Somber remember remember his staff friend.

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, he didn't live He lived in this smaller town right,

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 3>this place where we went to high school at. Right,

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 3>he lived in one of the offshoe cities of the baby.

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 3>When he kind of started to get with digital underground,

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.239
<v Speaker 3>he moved to Oakland. But he's still a baby. You know,

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 3>he's still eighteen nineteen years old, you know, not in

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 3>gang years. Shout out to cousin Druggy. Right, Marin City,

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 3>that's what it's called. He lived in Marin City.

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 5>M hmm.

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, so remember one of the main problems

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:48.319
<v Speaker 1>people said he ended up.

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Now, I don't know if it's true, and I probably

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't say, but I'm gonna say it. Anyway, he got

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 3>into it with some cats in the Bay Area and

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 3>they came to some picnic trying to hurt him some

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 3>part trying to.

0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Hurt him with people. That's part of the They said

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>he came down.

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 3>To La too what I'm saying. So it's like he

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 3>didn't really get him. Remember he's in New York. All

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 3>of the guys he ran with in New York, he

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of it feels like he kind of blames them

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 3>for what happens, even though they were all the guys saying,

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 3>don't deal with these people.

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't play with these people. They were telling him like, hey.

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:21.879
<v Speaker 5>Don't you know what I mean?

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Like even when I talked Jack talked to Haitian Jack

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and I asked him.

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I talked to Jimmy like I'm not the average rapper,

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:30.359
<v Speaker 3>Like I'll ask people what I want to know. Man,

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 3>it's Seventh Street, criypt. Nigga'm gonna ask you because Nigga,

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:37.319
<v Speaker 3>I can't. So I remember Jack telling me like, gee,

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 3>he just didn't understand certain things in the street. And

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 3>he looked at me like it's my fault. It's like, Nigga,

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 3>we told you. This bitch as a whole. Same situation

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 3>as Kanye. You know, he got with a girl and

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 3>the girl was a little out there. He kind of

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 3>fell in love and it went too far. He realized

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:54.800
<v Speaker 3>she was a whole and now he's embarrassed.

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 1>He had that pride.

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 3>They created that shame and here we are in this

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 3>whole other delimma, right, and then he blames them, even

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 3>the shit with him and Jimmy Hensman with Jimmy gave

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 3>him money, you know what I mean, And he didn't

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 3>want to get Jimmy back his money because he was

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 3>mad at Jack because he caught the case over this

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 3>girl that they told him was not the cond you

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 3>settled down with, you know what I'm saying, And they

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.720
<v Speaker 3>told him that, and you know, he didn't get Jimmy.

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 3>He blamed Jimmy because he met Jimmy through Jack, if

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 3>I understand correct. So again it's like, you know, he

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 3>blamed so he again, think about all of what he

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:34.399
<v Speaker 3>could perceive as betrayal, Yeah, think about what he can

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 3>perceive as betrayal. He could feel like, you know, and

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 3>then people try to say Stretch has something to do,

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 3>even though everybody that's in the street set, that's just

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 3>not true, right because it really wouldn't make sense. Even

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy said he didn't try to get him hurt. He

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:48.880
<v Speaker 3>just was like me, give me my money back if

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take this Jersey i'ma get something. So again,

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, Park.

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Was in a really.

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Unique situation because while he was mad, he understood that

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:07.279
<v Speaker 3>a lot of it was by his own doing. But

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 3>then he decided, and this is Puff. If there's one

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 3>thing I could blame Puff for?

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:13.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Puff, did.

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Anybody in the way? I could blame Puff for it?

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Because nobody's above responsibility. Big got the new the video

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:26.800
<v Speaker 3>shoot fucked up Puff specifically right, Puff realized when he

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 3>got shot that this was the perfect time to drop

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 3>who shot you? Mm hmmm, perfect time to drop.

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 5>What was what was the time of What was the

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 5>time of that bad I gotta looked that up.

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I want to see what the time that was. I

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 3>was looking at him when I was studying it. It

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 3>was right there and I know, no, no, no, uh

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 3>shout out to DT. Park not here to defend himself

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 3>with all the respect. You don't worry about pot DT.

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm your homeboy.

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:55.920
<v Speaker 3>One thing I'm not gonna do is let my homeboys

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 3>start talking about some nigga. You don't know whatever I

0:55:57.800 --> 0:55:59.320
<v Speaker 3>got to say about, because you don't got nothing to

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:01.360
<v Speaker 3>say about it. Nig You my homeboy, nigga. You know

0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 3>me in real life nigga, but by no rapper, they

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 3>don't never do that. I don't want my homeboys to ever.

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Don't get you. I'm not disrespecting the nigga and I

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 3>could have this conversation. That's the point of the No

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Center's platform in general. I'm not disrespecting and it's not

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not attacking him. I'm telling you based off of

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 3>simple business things, these were his moves. No, I'm not speculating,

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 3>lex I'm not. Some of this ship is a fact

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 3>that Jack told me till my face. That's not the speculation.

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Hisssman told me. I'm not speculating. I'm not telling

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:39.359
<v Speaker 3>you my opinion. I'm telling you what niggas old me.

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 3>Now what they did is different. I'm telling you what

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 3>niggas told me again. So now here's that speculation. The

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 3>speculation is Puff saw that.

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Opportunity as a time to launch this biggie song. It works.

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Pop felt some kind of way about them using right

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 3>that as a this Niggas song, and he decided he

0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 3>was going to use everything to market Ish. That's my speculation.

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 3>This is what we're doing. Oh, this is what we do.

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 3>I got shot and y'all go market it. Okay, all

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:27.920
<v Speaker 3>bets is off. This is what we're doing. We're marketing

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 3>with trauma. I'm gonna show you how to do it.

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 3>That's my speculation. He didn't never say that, but I

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 3>believe genuinely that's what he did. He said, y'all gonna

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 3>use me getting shot to market y'all song. Let me

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 3>show you how to really do this. I'm gonna make

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 3>people feel like Because he's never in life said they

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 3>had none to do with him getting shot, He's actually

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 3>said the exact opposite. May y'all think I would be

0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 3>rapping if I thought then people had me shot. M

0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 3>He has made it clear that they had nothing to

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:02.160
<v Speaker 3>do with him getting shot. He's made it clear out

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 3>of his mouth right, nothing to do with to get shot.

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:12.400
<v Speaker 3>But he made people feel like it whatever energy put

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 3>out and then niggas really felt like puffing big assing

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 3>to do it him getting shot, and he used that

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 3>ship and prepared himself into the into the top spot

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 3>in all of hip hop. It was brilliant, one of

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 3>the greatest marketing moves I've ever seen.

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 5>He put the reverse card on the luggage, put the

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 5>reverse half you have that you have me hand.

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, hurt I was nice.

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 7>It's one of the nice that was that was that

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 7>he was, that was coming from sitting up in that clip,

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 7>sitting up in that jail. He said, what the fun?

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 7>He said, he his head back and all that ship

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 7>big niggas. I got these niggas. Wat's what we're gonna do?

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 7>So he talked about getting shot everything. It was crazy after.

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 1>That reverse what.

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 7>M sacking on him too, that's crazy. The ba the

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 7>back jump on the back jump, marketing, the marketing of

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 7>it's crazy. And he like seeing like he's seeing, he's

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 7>seen ahead of like you've seen so far.

0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 3>At the time, I'm gonna dud I remember that he had,

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and he was like, yeah, you know, we'll probably get

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.800
<v Speaker 3>together and make some records. You just talked about fucking

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 3>this Nigga White m talking about his kids.

0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 7>Nigga what he's talking about here, talking about Sugar, talking

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:46.280
<v Speaker 7>about Sugar giving him that damn money giving him out.

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:49.560
<v Speaker 7>Sugar parably came there and visited them be and Nigga

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 7>probably told Sugars whole the whole plan. Oh god, this

0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 7>is what it is right here, this is what it is.

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 7>I got this, this is the whole layout.

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 1>This is the last.

0:59:58.400 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 5>So said, what this is money?

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:03.320
<v Speaker 1>He said, what what here?

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:11.040
<v Speaker 3>That Nigga hand writ his contract, Nigga niggas by hand. Niggah,

1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.640
<v Speaker 3>you're with this perfect emotion.

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 5>This is it? Be going with. I'm with it.

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:19.640
<v Speaker 1>All I need is a feature feature drake the rest

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>of his ship. I got it.

1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 5>I got it.

1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:23.880
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna run the whole play on these niggas. Be

1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:27.240
<v Speaker 7>this that this is over. It's we're going with pegging

1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:32.840
<v Speaker 7>buff right there. Yeah, this is a fucking marketing. The

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.600
<v Speaker 7>video here, the videos, the video he did niggas and

1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:36.840
<v Speaker 7>the ship he pulled that.

1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:38.640
<v Speaker 5>He had all that ship visualized already.

1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:39.760
<v Speaker 1>He knew it.

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 3>That was the meanest twelve months in history. Crazy, Like,

1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:46.960
<v Speaker 3>that's that of shit I'm talking about with dot. That

1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 3>was another twelve months that we need to talk about.

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:53.960
<v Speaker 3>That twelve months from him dropping Nigga is the world

1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:56.880
<v Speaker 3>being in jail, having the number one album in jail

1:00:57.680 --> 1:01:02.800
<v Speaker 3>to fucking dying like that twelve month is Saturay crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a mean twelve You come up like, oh, y'all,

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<v Speaker 3>niggas playing with my name, y'all see I got shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all think that shit funny.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I think about you know, I think

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<v Speaker 7>my thinking about the ship though. Look how young nigga

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<v Speaker 7>was doing that ship though too, man, Yeah, twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Years old, forty five, and it just came to me

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<v Speaker 3>this nigga was only ship at twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Four, twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>He was crazy niggas playing with me. Nigga nigga.

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<v Speaker 7>Crazy man, that was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he said. Consequences from Puff's marketing cloud cheese.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Because y'all gotta remember, like like Hit Him Up was

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<v Speaker 3>already done before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Hit Him Up was supposed to be on

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<v Speaker 1>all lines on m back.

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<v Speaker 5>When it was called came fall Houns with me right.

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<v Speaker 1>It came out four or five months after came out

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<v Speaker 1>on a Mexico. I said.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing for me that's close to Dods run, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the greatest runs that September to that

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<v Speaker 3>September DMX's run, fifties running oh three, I'd say, fifty run, Wayne's.

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<v Speaker 1>Run and O eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Snoops Run from Snoops run from ninety from ninety three

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<v Speaker 3>of January, you know, or excuse me December ninety three

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<v Speaker 3>to excuse me December ninety two when the crownic came

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<v Speaker 3>out to December ninety three, after do you stuff came out,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of them runs too, and I still got

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<v Speaker 3>dout twelve month run over.

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<v Speaker 5>I got two for you.

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<v Speaker 7>I got, I got the I like big run from

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<v Speaker 7>the time and the one more chance she went up

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<v Speaker 7>until all through.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying jay Z jay Z may have one too.

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<v Speaker 5>I might give it to himny.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight Rex was cleaning the floor.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, Snoopy is charged the way Pocus is shooting

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<v Speaker 4>like it was acid thing at the moment at the

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<v Speaker 4>v M as when he came out and did murder

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<v Speaker 4>was the case.

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<v Speaker 1>When all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they weren't outside on a bullshit charge.

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<v Speaker 7>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy ship even right now, I get like that was

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<v Speaker 3>like Neirvanda couldn't funk with this big looking crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, look at this crazy out of the

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<v Speaker 4>wheelchair and some ship and.

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<v Speaker 6>Stood up.

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<v Speaker 5>That Snoop ship. That Snoop was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that little from the chronic from when g thank

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<v Speaker 3>video happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how the fucking would he? Pop? Boy? You couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go nowhere, j J.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't consider it because ninety eight is DMX year.

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly, even though I think Jay was successful that year

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<v Speaker 3>and he crossed over, DMX was like, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Couldn't even because then you couldn't avoid that song.

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<v Speaker 7>He just topped hold because he did. He did the

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<v Speaker 7>two albums in one year, so he tapped hold with that, right.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't just it it was on one album, blood

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>He can't put the two albums out. Blood of My

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<v Speaker 5>Blood and all this hot.

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<v Speaker 6>Blood about blood only sold because the first.

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<v Speaker 5>One, Yeah, that's it though, that was it, but that

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<v Speaker 5>it was showing on that show.

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<v Speaker 6>It was gargangean.

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<v Speaker 4>It was on the top probably ten biggest single songs

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<v Speaker 4>and hip hop history, and fifty.

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<v Speaker 7>Years off that big I was like, yeah, remember what

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<v Speaker 7>was the other show?

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<v Speaker 3>I know those moments, bro DMX, the first time niggas

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<v Speaker 3>saw him and Rough Righters Anthem, you knew.

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<v Speaker 1>It was over.

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<v Speaker 3>Jay was Jay was more of a gradual climb of

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<v Speaker 3>great business and great move That was never a quiet

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<v Speaker 3>moment where I was like he galvanin his No, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was the hard not life toll. It was the

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<v Speaker 7>hard not life to that was marketing. It could have

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<v Speaker 7>really been hit it was it was the second. It

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<v Speaker 7>was the second the album that that that put them

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<v Speaker 7>over the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just marketing.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the third no, because everybody felt like they

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<v Speaker 3>thought somebody else ind headlined that tour was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not it's not. But that's the same, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>The Blood of My Blood is like the Massacre about fifty, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, but it came out in the same year. It

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<v Speaker 5>was just it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just it's not just the music success, it's what

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<v Speaker 3>the what the character does to the world. Jay is

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<v Speaker 3>like success at his smoothest. He's just success at his smoothest.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always been smooth about success, like and like I

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<v Speaker 3>always loved him from the first day. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>never like polarizing. D MX was like polarizing, like I'll

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<v Speaker 3>never forget the first that nigga that had no socks on,

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<v Speaker 3>no TEMs on, and overall show was never polarizing.

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<v Speaker 7>Who never never threw out a whole careerizing.

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<v Speaker 5>Did know what he did? You know what he did.

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<v Speaker 7>When he was in the NASCAR ship with Shorty the

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<v Speaker 7>commercial that was polarizing right there, that's when he was

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<v Speaker 7>looking like a rich billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It was still his brand. J. J. James always represented success. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>as I'm saying it still is. It's always been.

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<v Speaker 5>Smooth that that drivel in that nas.

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<v Speaker 6>Cling Pam Anderson in the video.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what look he had and that's like left

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<v Speaker 3>left he had he had the chick for nance car

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<v Speaker 3>driving the car he had Beyonce. That was the most

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<v Speaker 3>polarizing Beyonce, the Beyonce real life bro.

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<v Speaker 10>That wasn't art that was polarizing means I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 10>it's can see it's concene with what's SNA with Shorty?

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<v Speaker 3>What song was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Show me what you got? Video wasn't No, it wasn't polarity.

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<v Speaker 5>That was polarizing, Right.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a commercial commercial?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the other pole? What? What was the negative

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<v Speaker 1>pole about it?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What gave it power? But why is a commercial B

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<v Speaker 1>that's all right?

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<v Speaker 6>Compelling and polarized?

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<v Speaker 1>Or super Bowl name be able to super Bowl commercial? B?

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<v Speaker 5>All right? What you mean? Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Jain't never you're gonna tell me that you had knock

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<v Speaker 3>like video was. But I don't I want to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to like maybe you're using the word using

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<v Speaker 3>what is definition.

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<v Speaker 4>I miss read, I misread Otis. I'm sorry, Otis Otis.

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<v Speaker 4>I offer you my personal apology. I read it quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's on me. Sorry, I fucked that up. We

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<v Speaker 3>loved I'm a diehard j Fann. That just ain't his thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't a polarizing.

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<v Speaker 1>Type of act.

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<v Speaker 3>Like his polarity barely came the other day. Jane Is

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<v Speaker 3>always moved in this kind of real smooth like you

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<v Speaker 3>knew he was successful. And niggas liked the nigga d

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<v Speaker 3>m X nigga was growling nigga dm X came and

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<v Speaker 3>niggas was like, I remember looking like, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 3>is going on? Why do this nigga have no socks

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<v Speaker 3>on with them tms and he had a.

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<v Speaker 6>Bunch of people riding downstairs and quad.

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<v Speaker 1>All in the middle of the street. Polarized street for them. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>When dm X came street then back.

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<v Speaker 6>There was going on playing basketball and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was street though, and I seen dm X,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like them niggas the street back there, them

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<v Speaker 3>niggas blocking the roll behind, they don't care about traffic,

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what is that with the New York niggas? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so they really made me look at them like street

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<v Speaker 3>when I seen dm next.

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<v Speaker 6>What to me, jay Z is all about sales. He's

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<v Speaker 6>not necessarily about here.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's rising and controversial are very closely tied.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't see him being in controversy creating guy. That's

1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:07.880
<v Speaker 6>just me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not And some people like DMX was naturally that.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember we we had this conversation, remember New.

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<v Speaker 6>York Williams made DMX barking.

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<v Speaker 1>That Nigga was crazy, that Nigga was like some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I never that Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like holy ship, that Nigga had no fear,

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<v Speaker 3>no nothing. Why is this Nigga up here with no

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<v Speaker 3>bucket socks on? In the TM bro. He wasn't even

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<v Speaker 3>worried about bunnies.

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<v Speaker 6>You're number one all you took the number one thing.

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<v Speaker 6>You see?

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<v Speaker 7>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>This is where kropt this glasses and blows the most

1:10:48.600 --> 1:10:50.920
<v Speaker 4>hood rapper in the history of the genre because he

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<v Speaker 4>watched all the d MX ship and the first thing

1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:56.320
<v Speaker 4>that came to his mind is where is his socks?

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<v Speaker 4>I could have watched that ship for forty hours and

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<v Speaker 4>not know it's his fucking song.

1:11:02.760 --> 1:11:04.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know how cold you got to

1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:09.519
<v Speaker 3>be to where tins with no socks, you worry about

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<v Speaker 3>some of the socks.

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<v Speaker 5>He don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>He don't get it trapped. We'll get it trapped more

1:11:18.920 --> 1:11:20.719
<v Speaker 1>than you. Some tims put them on with no socks.

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<v Speaker 1>Walking around, you'll.

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<v Speaker 7>See Tim's got the level and the inside. You know

1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:27.040
<v Speaker 7>what I'm saying, leve the inside of the boot.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't understand the used to having bloody feet. I

1:11:32.040 --> 1:11:37.360
<v Speaker 9>watch all that imagery that New York Listen, That's the

1:11:37.400 --> 1:11:39.680
<v Speaker 9>one thing I remember he didn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a He had an overall short set off

1:11:41.920 --> 1:11:47.360
<v Speaker 3>with no shirt and timmeling with no socks. I was like, Oh,

1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:52.080
<v Speaker 3>this nigga, the roughest nigga in the history. This nigga

1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:55.400
<v Speaker 3>crazy and he growling and ship, what the you won't

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<v Speaker 3>do when we run up like this?

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<v Speaker 7>Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>Why he wearing a change? This nigga was wearing a change.

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<v Speaker 4>He was wearing actual change made of like compressed Allum's aluminum.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to show me easily, let me find out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's some mo niggas. That's funny with your niggas? What

1:12:25.400 --> 1:12:27.840
<v Speaker 3>that we can't handle looking up a dismantle?

1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:30.439
<v Speaker 5>What is wrong with this nigga?

1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:31.559
<v Speaker 4>Why is he.

1:12:33.240 --> 1:12:33.360
<v Speaker 7>Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that is hip hop? That is that ship?

1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:42.160
<v Speaker 5>Like that?

1:12:42.840 --> 1:12:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, look at this, but then everybody.

1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Behind him, you know why, Yeah, behind And it's so

1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:56.800
<v Speaker 3>funny because New York Puff Puff had New York going

1:12:56.880 --> 1:13:00.000
<v Speaker 3>shiny suit. Mind you, this is Mace coming this year,

1:13:00.640 --> 1:13:03.439
<v Speaker 3>Mason so Puff had it, jay Z had just dropped

1:13:03.479 --> 1:13:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Volume one. It was Hella Smooth, Teddy Riley Production shout

1:13:08.240 --> 1:13:11.920
<v Speaker 3>out to Ted and Hella Smooth like they.

1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Was trying to go shiny and proficient.

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<v Speaker 3>This nigga come out with no under his overall short

1:13:18.960 --> 1:13:22.840
<v Speaker 3>set and no socks and some teams like nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, holy shit.

1:13:27.200 --> 1:13:30.200
<v Speaker 6>And right after that a bunch of like drug use accusations.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, why is this nigga wearing a bulletproof vest? What

1:13:36.040 --> 1:13:37.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean you mean to tell me he got shot

1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:40.640
<v Speaker 3>nine times? And he rapping about the nigga that got

1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:43.640
<v Speaker 3>him shot onto Oh this nigga crazy? Oh this I

1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:48.080
<v Speaker 3>remember thinking that that's marketing. I remember Dying fifty cent

1:13:48.120 --> 1:13:49.640
<v Speaker 3>album the first day came out, that move I had

1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:51.719
<v Speaker 3>a bullet hole in the glass on a cover.

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<v Speaker 1>That's marketing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. Like Tupac comes home after getting shot.

1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:04.880
<v Speaker 3>He's in jail, he gets out of jail, he cussing

1:14:04.960 --> 1:14:10.120
<v Speaker 3>everybody out talking crap. That is different, Snoop catch a

1:14:10.240 --> 1:14:15.920
<v Speaker 3>murder case. The WEEKES album comes out, that's great, higgas

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<v Speaker 3>for it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside.

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<v Speaker 3>That's niggas can't imagine that the Weekes album came out,

1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:27.080
<v Speaker 3>he kept a oh with the album would have sold

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<v Speaker 3>an album called murder was the case?

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<v Speaker 4>Question was somebody was Was there some quid pro quote

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<v Speaker 4>backdoor action going on and saying, hey, look, I know

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<v Speaker 4>you got this sevenus. I know you're gonna bring this charge.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you at least bring it on a Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 6>The third dollar time frame?

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<v Speaker 1>There? This is what I'm trying to tell trap.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see my confidence comes when I see Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. I'm in the space with them. Nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>I know what this oh ship go, all the way

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<v Speaker 3>that nigga pop went, all the way pop went, all

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<v Speaker 3>the week that niggas like, no, don't care, nigga, y'all

1:15:14.439 --> 1:15:17.040
<v Speaker 3>nigga cussing you niggas out you niggas play with me

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<v Speaker 3>getting shot?

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga, I'm finished, Yeah, nigga, Now who laughing? Why fucked? Yr?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck, why are you so upset?

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<v Speaker 3>Niggas like man and then you could see niggas it

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<v Speaker 3>was niggas at the lunch table. Shout out to the

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<v Speaker 3>homies at the lunch table because they like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he big was in this bill when it's like nigga

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't have nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>With That's how.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm thinking about now, marketing gets lost

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<v Speaker 4>in reality. The two most wild like the two wildest

1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:55.920
<v Speaker 4>mouths in the history of Barry and hip hop both

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<v Speaker 4>got shot.

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<v Speaker 6>Parking back Drake.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, both those guys, I mean said whatever the living

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<v Speaker 4>fuck to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Max m.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't some of the shit you have to help

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<v Speaker 3>line it up, but some of the ship you can't. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>You just got to stick around long enough for that

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<v Speaker 3>to happen, like with Kendrick, Like you have to stick

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<v Speaker 3>around long enough for this shit to happen, like two points,

1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:29.080
<v Speaker 3>stick around long enough for this shit to happen, like Snoop,

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<v Speaker 3>you had to.

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<v Speaker 1>This nigga caught a murder case. That Wee Kids album

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<v Speaker 1>came out. It was on the.

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<v Speaker 7>New that's the That's the best marketing promotion promotion you

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<v Speaker 7>could get me. You don't get better than that, right,

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<v Speaker 7>that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Did that security garden the cheap Cherokee?

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<v Speaker 4>You get a bonus out of that, man, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>he must have got paid the hundred thousand a year

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<v Speaker 4>and made five team.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing that's post of that is fifty for real.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the next.

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<v Speaker 3>I compare dots to it because of how you get there,

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<v Speaker 3>how you become the conversation of the universe is different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always unique. How you you know it's that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you become the conversation of the universe right right?

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<v Speaker 3>And how you do it is different? Snoops came from

1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:21.519
<v Speaker 3>when he caught that. Michael Jackson became the conversation when

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<v Speaker 3>his hair caught on fire. Conversation like, oh that music

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<v Speaker 3>the Michael Jackson got it, the guy from the kids

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<v Speaker 3>group he has now but more go get that. He

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<v Speaker 3>was selling a million a week his hair caught on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>He did two or three million until Thriller came out.

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<v Speaker 3>Thriller comes out, the video he does somewhere between five

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<v Speaker 3>and six. Just off that a loan and it's cool

1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:45.840
<v Speaker 3>and his hair catches on fire. Now he's on the

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<v Speaker 3>news every week everywhere. Motherfucker starts selling a million a week.

1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Snoop did great, remberk Of came out. The chronic wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>this huge album at first? The first week the song

1:17:57.360 --> 1:18:00.840
<v Speaker 3>the album grew because the songs work right. Thing Dred,

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<v Speaker 3>let Me Ride, Ghetto Boy, those songs work well right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it got big. Snoop was already anticipated, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the nigga called a murder case mm hm week

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<v Speaker 3>of his album fifty cent the way they did fifty

1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:17.160
<v Speaker 3>cent ship fifty got shot nine times, you would have

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<v Speaker 3>thought it happened two days before the album came out.

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<v Speaker 5>What that's all you heard about?

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I was like, Man, the nigga that dist put.

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<v Speaker 3>A bullet hole put a bullet hole on his album cover, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 3>He's wearing a bulletproof vets. God, hell yea ain't so.

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<v Speaker 3>The fucking shipload the records the first.

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<v Speaker 6>Use that to make you the whole brand and stuff

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<v Speaker 6>and this.

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<v Speaker 5>Whole brand, yeah, whole band. That was crazy and that

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<v Speaker 5>never before.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I was looking at like numbers of like

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<v Speaker 4>the massacre, because I fleshed on my flesh by DMX

1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:56.519
<v Speaker 4>that was just riding the wave and the cotails of

1:18:56.600 --> 1:18:59.000
<v Speaker 4>the first album in the movie and the massacres.

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<v Speaker 6>The same with fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>It was not really anything that's spectacular on it, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was all right, but it wasn't like the first

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<v Speaker 4>one to sell a million eight the first week.

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<v Speaker 6>That's insane. That's just purely momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to no cuz. Remember so when everybody bought it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you hear murder was the case on the album.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, and it was the main song. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 6>the hook of the main song. And the name of

1:19:27.240 --> 1:19:28.080
<v Speaker 6>the album was all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that was the second album.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the second one.

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<v Speaker 3>That actually on the original album the week. So imagine

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<v Speaker 3>you see catch this murder case and then you pop

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<v Speaker 3>an album and you see this song called murder was

1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:43.479
<v Speaker 3>a case, and you listen, you like, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait? Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Real quick, Clifford, he got the VMA's there was that

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<v Speaker 4>much lag time.

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<v Speaker 6>Dog That was the Doggy Style release.

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<v Speaker 3>So remember the VVA ninety four, So so Snoop sit

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<v Speaker 3>is like the chronic in ninety two of December, Doggy Style.

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<v Speaker 1>In November of ninety three, murder was the case.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's in August of ninety four, dog Pound

1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:18.840
<v Speaker 3>is in Halloween. Excuse me of ninety five, and then

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<v Speaker 3>dog Father is in November of Yeah, November.

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<v Speaker 6>When you say this, he got the charge the week.

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<v Speaker 1>The album came out, Doggystown.

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<v Speaker 6>That was Doggie sound Yes, jeez.

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<v Speaker 1>So remember he made Murder was a case, an album

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<v Speaker 1>that was a soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 3>They went and made a movie after this nigga called

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<v Speaker 3>a murder case called Murder was the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Them niggas is crazy. Think about it. Think about what

1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:45.559
<v Speaker 1>you do.

1:20:47.280 --> 1:20:47.919
<v Speaker 5>That's crazy.

1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:51.360
<v Speaker 1>You get what I'm saying. I told you all a

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<v Speaker 1>couple like a month ago.

1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:55.519
<v Speaker 3>I said, you have to almost be delusional because you're

1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:57.280
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to do ship that don't make sense, but

1:20:57.400 --> 1:21:00.479
<v Speaker 3>it got to be your way. The nigga catches a

1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.839
<v Speaker 3>murder case, they decide to start pushing the song murder

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<v Speaker 3>was the case on the album. They ain't make a

1:21:07.000 --> 1:21:09.360
<v Speaker 3>fucking movie about Murder was the case. He's fighting a

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<v Speaker 3>murder case.

1:21:10.960 --> 1:21:16.760
<v Speaker 4>All right, crazy, Yeah, I meant do that, and he

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<v Speaker 4>got crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You can this thing up in the police, and I'm

1:21:20.520 --> 1:21:25.080
<v Speaker 3>sure I'm going to pushing all the police precincts. Yeah,

1:21:26.080 --> 1:21:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I'd be fucking stupid. But that's why it's gotta be

1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:38.400
<v Speaker 3>that deep. It gotta be bro not just the movie

1:21:38.400 --> 1:21:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and the soundtrack to the album is insane. Nigga, he's

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<v Speaker 3>actually fighting a murder.

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<v Speaker 5>Charge during the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't believe he get held a contempt.

1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:51.759
<v Speaker 1>He's fighting a murder charge.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they put a look, they put a what

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<v Speaker 6>do you call it? A gag order on Trump. This

1:21:59.520 --> 1:22:00.519
<v Speaker 6>guy did it the album.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the motherfucking movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe that they didn't get helld of contempt.

1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:12.519
<v Speaker 4>Too fucking funny, too fucking fun.

1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:18.719
<v Speaker 7>That is crazy, yeah, Johnny, Yeah, Johnny, right, yeah, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>The more gear facts.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they were tied out again, all these pussy ass

1:22:24.960 --> 1:22:26.800
<v Speaker 3>fans and be that's yeah.

1:22:26.800 --> 1:22:29.880
<v Speaker 1>He told himhimself the album he sold his shold him.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he said he did it. He took him out

1:22:34.280 --> 1:22:35.200
<v Speaker 5>the lyricly.

1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:37.240
<v Speaker 1>So bragging about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was he laundered the whole thing through the business

1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:45.880
<v Speaker 4>is to Rico, everybody was. They only killed the guy

1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:46.519
<v Speaker 4>so that they can.

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<v Speaker 6>Increase the sales. Everybody's guilty.

1:22:49.920 --> 1:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Guilty.

1:22:50.240 --> 1:22:50.840
<v Speaker 6>They produced the.

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<v Speaker 1>Song would be crazy, the whole ship out.

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<v Speaker 5>They figured the whole out of you too, so.

1:22:57.080 --> 1:22:59.040
<v Speaker 3>That they murdered this person so they could use this

1:22:59.120 --> 1:23:01.040
<v Speaker 3>as a marketing. They had it to be ready for

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<v Speaker 3>the and then they paid somebody.

1:23:03.520 --> 1:23:05.480
<v Speaker 6>Chillader as guilty as accessory.

1:23:06.200 --> 1:23:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they have old videos, a little part of the footage.

1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:14.679
<v Speaker 3>They be like, see listen all yeah, and you already

1:23:14.800 --> 1:23:18.479
<v Speaker 3>know him. He sacrificed Pop. He sa sacrifice Pop.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he did. You know he said up because

1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:22.120
<v Speaker 1>they got into it in New York.

1:23:22.280 --> 1:23:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Because when he said he wasn't beefing with anybody and

1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:26.200
<v Speaker 3>they came back on the airplane, nobody's fucking with him.

1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>He knew not to go to Vegas.

1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>That's what niggas because he would have been in that

1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:32.439
<v Speaker 3>seat and not him.

1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:35.120
<v Speaker 1>He sacrificed pot to get where he's at. Niggas is

1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>laying bro the greatest strategy.

1:23:42.040 --> 1:23:46.439
<v Speaker 6>Ever had set up or whatever for business purpose.

1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:47.439
<v Speaker 1>That it is crazy.

1:23:47.560 --> 1:23:51.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you had a guy who's half your size

1:23:51.200 --> 1:23:53.839
<v Speaker 4>sitting in front of you and the shooting thousand set.

1:23:53.720 --> 1:23:59.519
<v Speaker 5>Up shott, I never heard it. Just make sure you

1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:01.679
<v Speaker 5>don't shoot this crazy man, Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to all of the legendary hip hop acts. Man,

1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:13.240
<v Speaker 3>y'all survived some ship. If you still here, dog, I

1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:14.440
<v Speaker 3>cannot believe.

1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:17.559
<v Speaker 6>None of those bullets went through and hit that man.

1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:21.519
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. To be in prison right now

1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:25.200
<v Speaker 3>talking about niggas on the phone. Nigga, you ain't change

1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:25.679
<v Speaker 3>your life.

1:24:29.400 --> 1:24:32.240
<v Speaker 6>You got works same thing. God him there made one

1:24:32.280 --> 1:24:32.960
<v Speaker 6>hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, but now you got fuck are you? Nigga?

1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:43.960
<v Speaker 3>That was like, so here's the oh man, here's a

1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:46.960
<v Speaker 3>death ro marketing meeting. He caught that murder case. We

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<v Speaker 3>got we got the best attorney. Yo, we need to

1:24:49.040 --> 1:24:50.160
<v Speaker 3>really lean on this.

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<v Speaker 4>You got the best attorney and the best.

1:24:55.040 --> 1:25:00.360
<v Speaker 5>We need to We gotta next single next week. You know,

1:25:00.400 --> 1:25:03.479
<v Speaker 5>we gotta have that single next week. Now, Push push

1:25:03.520 --> 1:25:04.479
<v Speaker 5>what's name back? Push?

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<v Speaker 7>Murder murder was we're gonna shoot the movements. This nigga

1:25:13.120 --> 1:25:14.240
<v Speaker 7>fighting a real murder.

1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:21.000
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm, it's over. That's crazy, said.

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar is a giant target.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They were shot shooting on it bush ship.

1:25:27.080 --> 1:25:33.639
<v Speaker 3>Bush ship mark bush ship shooters only to get popped

1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:50.679
<v Speaker 3>bush ship mark, bulls ship hell no, hell no ship mark. Hey, bro,

1:25:51.360 --> 1:25:54.719
<v Speaker 3>you gotta go with the flow because it's going crazy.

1:25:54.840 --> 1:25:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Like who the fuck was shop? And then when they

1:25:57.720 --> 1:25:59.840
<v Speaker 3>told if I'm snoop, they told me like, so, look,

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<v Speaker 3>we gonna make a movie called murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the CA.

1:26:03.360 --> 1:26:08.479
<v Speaker 4>What nigga, what this is a snoop. Bodyguard shot that

1:26:08.520 --> 1:26:10.960
<v Speaker 4>guy for self defense? Self defense for what.

1:26:13.120 --> 1:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Issue? He made everybody so damn much money.

1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:19.640
<v Speaker 4>The only defense was, you know, suffering financial losses in

1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:22.479
<v Speaker 4>the down economy.

1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>True.

1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:30.240
<v Speaker 3>And at this point, I gotta fucking be delusional.

1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Because this is what you do.

1:26:34.800 --> 1:26:36.720
<v Speaker 3>You're like, oh, yeah, nah that the post office ain't

1:26:36.720 --> 1:26:38.200
<v Speaker 3>another I'm putting them in the police office.

1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta i gotta tap in with somebody from the

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<v Speaker 1>FED so I can.

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<v Speaker 7>What the fuck?

1:26:46.240 --> 1:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>How did that even?

1:26:47.840 --> 1:26:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I know you be on a different level when you

1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:54.040
<v Speaker 3>finally get marketing because they be like, nigga, the idea

1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:54.599
<v Speaker 3>or nothing.

1:26:55.880 --> 1:27:04.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. It's just that

1:27:05.080 --> 1:27:08.160
<v Speaker 7>just now, yeah, just now with the Dirt album, with

1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:08.960
<v Speaker 7>the Dirk album.

1:27:09.320 --> 1:27:11.439
<v Speaker 3>But they but see they couldn't time me. Imagine it

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<v Speaker 3>came out the week of now they're trying.

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<v Speaker 7>To know they was they was playing on coming out.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's like right around the time he first got

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<v Speaker 7>when you first got lot. They pushed it back, they

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<v Speaker 7>pushed it back. It's a different kind of commitment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a different kind of it's a different kind of commitment. Dog,

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<v Speaker 7>It's a different kind of commitment.

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<v Speaker 3>He had to make a movie called murder was a case, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you make an album called murder was a case while

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<v Speaker 3>fighting a murder case that your commitment to.

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<v Speaker 5>All that was released, all that was released before the trial.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the trial. I know that the I know the song.

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<v Speaker 7>I know the song was, But what about the the

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<v Speaker 7>movie in less than the other album?

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<v Speaker 1>M That's what I was a while the crowd was SNOOPD.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like you.

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<v Speaker 6>Who you gotta make a song now called ka Rico?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, all that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing some bullsh it now, man, double down, just

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<v Speaker 3>keep that. Niggas nigga called a murder case like, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, Hey, we got that song, We need to

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<v Speaker 3>make that movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Push that up. Every when it came up, never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was that song? Why you don't even have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to market it? That was the market.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I feel about pot pop saw again. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a belief the other ship. I'm telling y'alls what

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<v Speaker 3>them niggas told me. This is a belief. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>them niggas used when he got shot to murder to

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<v Speaker 3>market murder was.

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<v Speaker 1>A case who shot you because they had.

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<v Speaker 3>That you can hear that song to do a pot

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<v Speaker 3>But they was like perfect moment, it was gone all

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<v Speaker 3>the other ship, probably talking about the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>He just had time to think about after being mad.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how you get mad, king and then you

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<v Speaker 3>start thinking about everything somebody did to you, but it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be that one thing that made you mad initially, but

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<v Speaker 3>then you be like, man, everything That's what I think happened.

1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Like he wasn't even tripping off them, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>saw that song come out. He was like niggas probably

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<v Speaker 3>came him like, man, you heard that big song? Murder

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<v Speaker 3>was a k I mean, who shot you? I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what he listening?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>He know?

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<v Speaker 3>Damn well, I ain't had nothing to do with him

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<v Speaker 3>getting shot. He knew exactly what he got shot about,

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<v Speaker 3>even if nobody else knew.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's Puck like a natural worker or something or

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<v Speaker 3>is it I think he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he always was natural with it. He knew you.

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<v Speaker 6>Before pack was.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, like the district like like Pocket Snoop

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<v Speaker 4>Snoop was a brand and without a plan, and he

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<v Speaker 4>was a plan without a brand.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he got a brand.

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<v Speaker 7>He was Oh at first, wasn't worth it because because

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<v Speaker 7>the political hip hop Ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he could make records, right, he could make good records.

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<v Speaker 3>He who had a poking how to make records early

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<v Speaker 3>on right, he knew it. He knew it, he figured

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<v Speaker 3>it out. But his Snoop was a brand. Snoop barely

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<v Speaker 3>got a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Like he's like, I get to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone calls him and says, hey, we'll give you ten

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<v Speaker 4>million to be on the corona commercially. He goes okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he's and then he goes first shizzle and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like they give him ten million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and head asked that nigga right to lat We

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<v Speaker 3>was up there like a month and a half a

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<v Speaker 3>go fuck because right, so he was like, man, what

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<v Speaker 3>made you say cousin like me? And they asked for

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I knew it. He laughed, and Ship,

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<v Speaker 3>I told you trapped. They're like, oh, we're being EDGI

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<v Speaker 3>now the court racist edge and they're gonna be mad.

1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>He said, cuz they niggas trying to go viral. Bro,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, Pop saw them niggas use who shot you?

1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:11.800
<v Speaker 3>He was like, bitch as you motherfucker? Ain't he up

1:31:11.800 --> 1:31:16.479
<v Speaker 3>there Byself album in Jail, got you niggas?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what else?

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<v Speaker 7>It was too fucking They just dropped who shot you too?

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<v Speaker 7>It wasn't on the album, so it wasn't in the

1:31:23.600 --> 1:31:26.479
<v Speaker 7>push the album Lucy that was it was a Lucy

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<v Speaker 7>was holding like he was a Lucy.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, Yo, put it out is.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause it is very much like that, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I swear to God, like, as I'm preparing the market

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<v Speaker 3>for this project, it's almost like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's taking no prisoners.

1:31:47.320 --> 1:31:52.840
<v Speaker 3>It's take no prisoners, bro, he was like, oh you motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Hey, what's.

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<v Speaker 4>The backstory on the the issue where the dude got

1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:04.160
<v Speaker 4>shot in the snoop thing?

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<v Speaker 7>Like?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I thought it was in Pasadena?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Was it like a PDL.

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<v Speaker 5>Bunch of some ship like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why was? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough about it, you know what I mean?

1:32:18.439 --> 1:32:21.559
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know. I had to look into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's that's an undertold story that needs telling.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember fifty was gonna do it. He was gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>a thing about that him fight that murder case. And

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<v Speaker 3>then they backed up. But I shouldn't that's because it's

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be me doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even want to do the murder case. I

1:32:36.600 --> 1:32:38.040
<v Speaker 6>want to do like what was the name of that guy?

1:32:38.200 --> 1:32:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Whoever?

1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>The guy that I remember the guy's name, the recipe

1:32:41.479 --> 1:32:42.920
<v Speaker 3>of that brother. I forgot his name, but I remember

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<v Speaker 3>seeing his name.

1:32:44.200 --> 1:32:47.519
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and someone Must Die is a sequel story that

1:32:47.600 --> 1:32:49.920
<v Speaker 4>needs to be told. Like I don't mean to be

1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:53.000
<v Speaker 4>as crass about the titles because.

1:32:52.760 --> 1:32:53.519
<v Speaker 6>I don't know his name.

1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:55.920
<v Speaker 3>But you know, the hard the hardest part about doing

1:32:55.920 --> 1:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>those things is when it's two street people, then you

1:32:57.920 --> 1:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>don't really give the public a chance to stay in

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<v Speaker 3>mm hmm, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Greer is a fucking machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Watermerion, I remember that now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but see like that stuff like with with with

1:33:14.000 --> 1:33:15.840
<v Speaker 3>the Hommy, with innage and ship that should be like

1:33:15.880 --> 1:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>real street ship. Like the general public don't have a like.

1:33:20.120 --> 1:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>One thing I've realized as a storyteller, bro is, you

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<v Speaker 3>got to give the public a viewpoint inside.

1:33:26.680 --> 1:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>You can't put them weirdly.

1:33:29.520 --> 1:33:33.479
<v Speaker 3>Like I was arguing with Manny about this and I

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<v Speaker 3>was explaining to him Boys in the Hood is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Better story than Godfather.

1:33:37.439 --> 1:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>The Godfather is a better movie than Boys in the Hood,

1:33:40.560 --> 1:33:43.160
<v Speaker 3>But the story is better Boys in the Hood, right,

1:33:43.680 --> 1:33:47.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, a lot of The Godfather is cinematography, you

1:33:47.439 --> 1:33:59.599
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, callous a lot of things, guys.

1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Even ever, that was that was.

1:34:08.640 --> 1:34:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Because Mario Puzo had the number one selling book in

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<v Speaker 4>like the World.

1:34:11.960 --> 1:34:14.360
<v Speaker 6>And that's why.

1:34:15.080 --> 1:34:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Again I'm not even disagreeing, but I think that's because

1:34:17.320 --> 1:34:20.280
<v Speaker 3>white people like white violence and they think it's ten

1:34:20.320 --> 1:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>times more interesting as much.

1:34:23.560 --> 1:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>More interesting waiting with white mafia. That's it. That wasn't

1:34:29.880 --> 1:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a great story. What was What was the best part

1:34:31.840 --> 1:34:32.439
<v Speaker 1>of the story?

1:34:33.000 --> 1:34:36.519
<v Speaker 4>What was what was the in the totalian story? Is

1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:39.280
<v Speaker 4>you have a dude that's like transcended from like one

1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:42.000
<v Speaker 4>country to another, from like a gutter to being a

1:34:42.040 --> 1:34:43.559
<v Speaker 4>multi millionaire.

1:34:43.280 --> 1:34:46.759
<v Speaker 6>To having multi regional polls and multi regional markets.

1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>It's a much more compelling story than something that happens

1:34:49.000 --> 1:34:50.080
<v Speaker 4>in a three block radius.

1:34:50.920 --> 1:34:58.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's crazy. In the football game, football player and haircut,

1:34:59.320 --> 1:35:00.160
<v Speaker 5>white crime.

1:35:01.640 --> 1:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Crime is more appearance. That's ridiculous. Let me have the

1:35:06.520 --> 1:35:10.519
<v Speaker 1>story is not that's yeah amazing.

1:35:11.800 --> 1:35:13.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, he's talking about Godfather three.

1:35:13.840 --> 1:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's that Godfather.

1:35:15.200 --> 1:35:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Three Godfather two is a better story because the story

1:35:18.960 --> 1:35:20.120
<v Speaker 3>is about Veto more than Michael.

1:35:20.160 --> 1:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree that this story is just not really good.

1:35:27.560 --> 1:35:30.800
<v Speaker 3>The movie is good, it's shot incredibly well, it's dialogue well,

1:35:30.880 --> 1:35:31.720
<v Speaker 3>the acting is well.

1:35:31.960 --> 1:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>The story itself sucks fucking ball.

1:35:34.040 --> 1:35:36.040
<v Speaker 5>Like he's said, it had to be a great story

1:35:36.320 --> 1:35:38.960
<v Speaker 5>to get a movie movie.

1:35:39.400 --> 1:35:45.920
<v Speaker 6>Discuss this. It's funny. I just I wrote a note about.

1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:50.320
<v Speaker 4>This thing and an idea I have for your first

1:35:50.400 --> 1:35:54.760
<v Speaker 4>movie that is very similar in this regard that you're

1:35:54.800 --> 1:35:55.479
<v Speaker 4>going to enjoy.

1:35:55.600 --> 1:35:57.719
<v Speaker 6>But I can't unveil it live.

1:35:58.200 --> 1:35:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm in it.

1:35:58.960 --> 1:36:00.519
<v Speaker 6>Look, this is gonna be awesome.

1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Cap is right. The first Godfather, No,

1:36:04.439 --> 1:36:08.679
<v Speaker 3>Godfather Too. Yes, the Godfather Too is a much better story.

1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Gods good of a movie.

1:36:13.960 --> 1:36:17.479
<v Speaker 3>As Godfather one, but it's a much better story the

1:36:17.520 --> 1:36:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Godfather one. It's really about It's like Belly for white people.

1:36:24.439 --> 1:36:30.839
<v Speaker 3>It's all cinematography, it's all really great actors, destroy yourself sucked.

1:36:32.080 --> 1:36:35.760
<v Speaker 5>Story is great character developments, Godfather Too.

1:36:37.960 --> 1:36:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Godfather is a much better story, but nowhere near the movie.

1:36:44.479 --> 1:36:47.040
<v Speaker 3>The movie, Like the movie is about you seeing.

1:36:46.720 --> 1:36:50.040
<v Speaker 7>It stick, you know, listen, man stick with boys in

1:36:50.040 --> 1:36:54.000
<v Speaker 7>the hood minutes society juice that.

1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't say society. I didn't say that, you gotta

1:36:58.160 --> 1:37:01.160
<v Speaker 3>stick with stuff in the hood at minutes.

1:37:00.960 --> 1:37:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Is the same. I hate when you typecast.

1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:06.200
<v Speaker 5>It's not.

1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>What is a fatherhood movie?

1:37:08.840 --> 1:37:11.280
<v Speaker 3>What is a story about boys that don't have a

1:37:11.320 --> 1:37:12.880
<v Speaker 3>father and a boy it's.

1:37:12.800 --> 1:37:16.400
<v Speaker 5>About Yeah, it was the same. It was the same movie.

1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:21.879
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same movie it is. You're just racist.

1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:25.960
<v Speaker 5>It's the same culture. It's the same culture. It's street

1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:27.320
<v Speaker 5>and culture representation.

1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Which wanna be the most raising Hood is pretty much

1:37:31.000 --> 1:37:33.280
<v Speaker 3>how you go the most realistic one that.

1:37:33.280 --> 1:37:36.160
<v Speaker 5>One and uh go south Central.

1:37:38.400 --> 1:37:41.719
<v Speaker 3>South Central is probably a little bit cooler of a story,

1:37:41.760 --> 1:37:43.080
<v Speaker 3>but it's not a better movie.

1:37:43.600 --> 1:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about more realistic to what's hood.

1:37:46.360 --> 1:37:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Boys in Hood is really certain homies like god Dads

1:37:50.240 --> 1:37:51.280
<v Speaker 3>and certain homies that don't.

1:37:51.360 --> 1:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much how it okay, nothing like Colors and

1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Colors is a police movie. I don't

1:37:58.000 --> 1:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>know enough about police.

1:37:58.960 --> 1:37:59.519
<v Speaker 5>That's what you got.

1:37:59.520 --> 1:38:02.040
<v Speaker 7>That's what you're to put that against. Put that against that,

1:38:02.120 --> 1:38:04.360
<v Speaker 7>put boys and hood against colors, something like that.

1:38:04.920 --> 1:38:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Niggas down, Keep the niggas down, with the niggas don't

1:38:06.760 --> 1:38:10.559
<v Speaker 3>put them up with the white folks to lunch hour.

1:38:15.240 --> 1:38:15.679
<v Speaker 5>Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived in the area in Cassa Grand but I've

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<v Speaker 1>My boy.

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<v Speaker 6>Is the poor Arthur of the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is rest peace to my boy. Uh curse from Castle,

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<v Speaker 3>Grand solid dud. He was blood toot Tomas. Good people

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<v Speaker 3>out there. Shout out to Oldest, thank you for that

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<v Speaker 3>five dollars. Shout out to my boy beasts, all my

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<v Speaker 3>people out there in Cassa. Grand Oldest, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>the five dollars. Being polarizing and doing something polarizing or

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<v Speaker 3>different things. Salute to the panel. We tried to tell

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<v Speaker 3>Chap that much.

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<v Speaker 4>Love to the least thing that Oldest said that I

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<v Speaker 4>misread with like I had a dyslexia, just shut down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I still just just popped off.

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<v Speaker 1>This dealership. I'm just not leaving that. Damn.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you fucking care.

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<v Speaker 5>Talking to you, Stell, We pulled up.

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<v Speaker 6>No one's ever made it out of a car dealership

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<v Speaker 6>in less than three hours. It's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>Still not even look yet because you don't even pop in.

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<v Speaker 6>We're trying to get you on the shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's forget.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We out here.

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<v Speaker 3>And looking out for tuning into the Note Sellers podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode was recorded right here on the West coast

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<v Speaker 3>of the USA. It produced about the Black Effect podcast

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<v Speaker 3>network and not Hard Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah,