1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: opinions only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio co 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: co they AM paraormal podcast Network. Welcome to my show. 16 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Remember each week this is the place you go to 17 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: when you want to learn the latest when it comes 18 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: to anything out of the ordinary, from shadow people to 19 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: happ man angels, to Jesus encounters, near death experiences, reincarnation, 20 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: anything and everything out of the the ordinary. I'm telling you, 21 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: you come right here, okay, and your story are a 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: big part of this is how we learned what it's 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: doing out in the world. You've got to tell me 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: what's going on. To go to my main website, which 25 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot com 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: for those of you who do not know how to 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: spell my name. Everybody works at some coffee shops. Um, 28 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: tell me, tell me as much detail as you want. 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Tell me what is going on. What have you seen, 30 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: what have you read, what have you researched, what did 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: your grandma pass down through the generations? All of that. 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: I want these stories because we are learning. This is class. 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is a paranormal class of a sort. 34 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: And I'm a student just as you are. And uh yeah, 35 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a long time and I 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: don't I don't see any any end in sight and learning. 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: I really don't. So I'm gonna just keep talking along. 38 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: And uh, I hope that you guys packed a lunch, 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be fun. I always like to keep 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: it fun because I think it's important that we treat 41 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: these stories like we do anything else. I don't think 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: you should be afraid to listen to my show at nighttime. 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: I think you should be more intrigued and be like, oh, 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: what she got today? Who's going to come on the 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: show or what story? I mean, I'm hoping I'm keeping 46 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: it interesting. But anyways, yeah, tell me your stories. Go 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: to the site and also check out my paranormal comic 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: strip called the Outlanders. Uh. You could find me at 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: the Outlanders Comic on Instagram and enjoy. All Right, so 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: guess what today? What am I gonna talk about? Well, 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: it's all about your stories again. Yeah, they're my favorites. 52 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: I really do enjoy enjoyed learning, I enjoyed listening and uh, 53 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: but I always like to give a little little segment 54 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: talking about some things, uh in the beginning, because it's UM, 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: tell you how my week has gone. What's gone great? 56 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: Thank you for asking. UM. I have been really intrigued 57 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: and pleasantly surprised by the people I've met recently that 58 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: are involved in the paranormal field. First off, okay, I 59 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: gotta give it to to the people that are working 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: hard out there, pushing learning, thriving and uh, you know, 61 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: having the same passion as myself, Like you don't quite 62 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: get into these things to make a dollar. You know, 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: you start off trying to learn because you experience something yourself, 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and then you find oh my gosh, somebody else experienced 65 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: this outside of your family, and you start talking, you 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: start having meetings or online or whatever it is, and 67 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: then you're like, hey, I could help this person. And 68 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: then you realize, oh my gosh, there's more people. My 69 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: story is a little bit more in depth because who 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: combined so much. I mean, it's aliens, it's a shadow people, 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: it's the ghosts, it's the Holy encounters. And I've always 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: just been very honest about what it is that comes 73 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: my way because I have nothing to hide. And uh, 74 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, I try to be as accurate as I 75 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: possibly can be in the things that I've experienced and 76 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: the people I've met, because um, you know, you don't 77 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: want to try to steer people wrong. I'm gonna just 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: try to. Here you go and take a look. You know, 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: I gotta sifted in through my fingers. I hope a 80 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: gold nugget gets stuck on my ring finger or something there. Um, 81 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: I was just kidding. I don't know where that came from, 82 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: but you know, you know what I'm saying, I hope 83 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Um, but I've been talking to everybody, 84 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: from television hosts of paranormal shows to those who study 85 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: and get degrees and mystical things. I mean, like really 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: like I'm just really really impressed and surprised by so 87 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: much activity and so much knowledge going at this stuff 88 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: from various degrees and angles. Because um, when it's the 89 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: same old, same old, I mean I don't even need 90 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: to tell you guys do I mean, how exhausted do 91 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: you get. It's like they're gonna go and say, turn 92 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: this light on, you know, knock three times, you know, 93 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: one for us or you know. So it's it's just, um, yeah, 94 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I liked when things get explored differently. I'm not knocking 95 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: anybody that does those things. I'm just saying, you know, 96 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: we're familiar with that. We just want to push the 97 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: envelope a little bit better and harder. And um yeah, 98 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: you know. So I have to tell you though, too, 99 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: because I had also this week some people reach out 100 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: who did something really endearing and sweet and kind, and 101 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: I just have to say thank you, thank you, thank you. Um. 102 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I have a good friend that she was somebody I 103 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: call her my first quote fan if there is such 104 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: a thing? Um who who wrote me when I wrote 105 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: my first book and said thank you has changed me? 106 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: And uh really got me on the road to understanding 107 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: Uh Jesus God, the whole topic. It's it's not a 108 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: bad thing. Like gosh, my parents were telling me the 109 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: right thing. And like, you know, a lot of people 110 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: think because you're in these fields, that you gotta drop 111 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: everything that you're raised by, and and they come to 112 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: shows like mine and then they're like, oh man, she 113 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: spoke something I was forced down my throat, but she's 114 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: speaking of it differently. And I'm trying, you know, because 115 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I had stepped away from these things myself. And I'm 116 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: not a Bible thumper. I'm not trying to scare you guys. 117 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm not all those those things like that. I'm just 118 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: realistic with some of it, because, um, you know, if 119 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: people can dive into this spooky, dark, dirty grungy stuff, 120 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: please realize there's a polar opposite, because you better pray 121 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: there is, because when you start getting into this dirk 122 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: dirty grungy, filthy evil, demonic stuff and you get so dark, 123 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: down deep and dirty, you're like, somebody help me who 124 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: are you gonna call? Um, it's not a movie, so 125 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: uh yeah. So I got a couple of people, one 126 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: being I'll say your first name is Melissa. She's like, 127 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: I think one of my purposes is to let you 128 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: know that it's working high to keep going. And I'm like, 129 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: thank you, you know, because it is always a trial 130 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: and error type of thing, like Okay, I'm gonna push 131 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: the green button. Uh, anybody did that? Did that help? That? 132 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Did that work? Uh? Probably the purple one. That's my 133 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: favorite color. Bingo, you know, I don't know. I'm sitting 134 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: here just doing stuff and uh talking about these things 135 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: and and I'm like, well, I hope that helps somebody, 136 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: you know. And I went into doing this type of thing, 137 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: doing a podcasting radio, uh, even writing a column, writing 138 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: books because it was man, I'm not reaching enough people 139 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm hearing about more stuff going on out there. 140 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: So I just kept trying to push it to the 141 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: next level. And um, you just don't get the feedback 142 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: always to be like did it work? But I know 143 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: it's working, But it's always nice and ever so often 144 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: to hear like thanks, And I'm just like so super 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: grateful for those of you who reached out this week, 146 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: and um, Melissa, you are star. I mean she's stuck 147 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: with me for all this time. I mean it's been 148 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: over twenty years since I put out the first book 149 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: and and she's like, hey, I'm still doing good. How 150 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: are you doing It's like, yeah, you know so, Um, 151 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: it's important to support people that are in this for 152 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: the right reasons, to try to work this out for 153 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: themselves and then extend it out to others. Um. Like 154 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: I I was saying, I meant a couple of people, 155 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: actually about three people this week that I met that 156 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: are in this field at higher levels than myself really uh, 157 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: in different dimensions, you know what I'm saying. Uh. And 158 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: it's like, wow, that's a that's cool. That's cool that 159 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: you're going that way. And one of the things that 160 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: I always have to, uh be careful about myself, Like 161 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm always talking freely on here. Thank 162 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: you Coast to Coast for letting me talk more on this, 163 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: like free to speak on the Christian angle and not 164 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: being weird about it or anything but honest, like I 165 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: always say and just said and and repeat and ransom repeat, 166 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: Let's see um okay um alright, but yeah, so I 167 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I just like to be able to kind of stick 168 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: more to that the clean version of things, you know, 169 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: just filling the blanks, if you know what I mean. 170 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, so I think uh, you know, representing 171 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: yourself and uh doing what you're passionate about. I think 172 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: it shows through. And I want to give an amount 173 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: of applause for people who are in this doing just that. 174 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, guys, I have been 175 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: privy to understanding that there are a lot of new 176 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: ideas getting tossed around out there for paranormal, ufo crypto 177 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: type of shows. And that's kind of neat too, So 178 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: keep your eyes and ears peeled for such things, because, um, 179 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: we were getting these newer insights in this newer not 180 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: newer blood necessarily, but uh, you know, when you research 181 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: so much at one level and you're able to create 182 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: a new gadget or get a new perspective or come 183 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: across that one case that answers other cases, hot diggity 184 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: dog if that isn't cool. Um, So, I think it's 185 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: important that we keep our our minds open, you know, 186 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: and it makes suggestions to each other. So again I'm 187 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna keep that open. You guys right me and you 188 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: tell me, Hi, do I think you have this wrong? 189 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: I get those emails. I think Catman is our friend. Yeah, 190 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: he's now over in a mind. He doesn't like me 191 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: very much. Like I haven't you ever been in a 192 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: group of people and they're like, oh, Johnny is just 193 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: the best person on the planet. He is just so 194 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: sweet and kind and holy. And then Johnny starts sending 195 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: you crazy messages I don't know on Messenger and nobody 196 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: can believe it. I have been in that situation people, 197 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: and it is not pretty, and it's not easy to 198 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, Johnny and try to be polite 199 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: about it, try to be polite, but then I'm like, 200 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, they keep cramping Johnny being an angel down 201 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: your throat, and then I have to say, please stop, please. 202 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm easy to get along with most people, but Johnny 203 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: really slammed me pretty bad. I don't understand it. Um so, 204 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: and if people know me well enough, they know I'm 205 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: not the type to go and dig at people. It's like, 206 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. So yeah, we have to keep things 207 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: on the level. If we're going to keep the best 208 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: reputations and the best information going forward. You know what 209 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, hat Man is not one of them. I 210 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: will stand for him on that. Um, all right, you guys, 211 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: guess what we are going to dive into your emails. 212 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: I am excited. Um, they look like some juicy ones. 213 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Those are our favorites because the more detail, what the better. 214 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm gonna just dive in. I haven't 215 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: read these things fire. I'd like to be just as 216 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: surprised as you are. We in the review happened. So 217 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: all right, you guys, stick around. You are listening to 218 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me? Heidi Hollis on the I 219 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Heart Radio Coast to Coast ay AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 220 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are 221 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me? Heidi Hollis on 222 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio Hey Coast to Coast ay AM 223 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I guess what, everybody, it's my favorite 224 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of show. I hope it's your favorite too, because 225 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: you never know what you're gonna get. When I opened 226 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: up my emails, and uh, I don't know until I 227 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: read them with you, generally, unless it says please help, 228 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: don't read this on the air or something like that. 229 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: So I'm just totally winging it. And h these look 230 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: clear in the first lines. I always say, first line, 231 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: tell me, tell me you need help right away, tell 232 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: me if you don't want me to say your name 233 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: or say this story on the air, And uh, I 234 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: don't say any So, all right, we're gonna dive right 235 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: on in. And this one says, Hi, Heidi, it's Hayley, 236 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Caylee or Cally. How are you well? Hey there girl, 237 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. Um, today's a nice sunny day 238 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: and I'm having a good time. Um. I am from Katoomba, Australia. Oh. 239 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I love Australia. I got to live there for a 240 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: bit and I miss it. Oh I miss it. I 241 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: miss it a lot, a lot a lot. Um So anyways, um, 242 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: he says, I wanted to ask you if what I 243 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: saw was the hat Man. When I was five, six 244 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: or seven, I saw this all black figure standing in 245 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: my doorway, just staring at me, wearing a coat, walking 246 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: stick and had his left hand on his left hip. 247 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: He was posing. Uh. I also saw, at age fifteen, 248 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: turning sixteen and three months a black figure at the 249 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: end of my bed, and I could see the outline 250 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: of its arms and waist. It looked like a person 251 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: has broken into my home, which I thought. And my 252 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: adult friend who works with me at a certain hotel 253 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: I won't name it, said he used to work at 254 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: our local hospital and saw a top hat, coat and 255 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: black figure vanish into the wall. Oh, I'm getting chills. 256 00:15:51,640 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: You guys getting chills. I mean, who's so okay? My brother? Okay, 257 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: hold on, it's okay. First, let's take off this. Let's 258 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: take off this first paragraph here. Okay, Um, I'm just 259 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna say you said that you saw all black figure 260 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: standing in the doorway wearing a coat and a walking 261 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: stick and posing. Hatman doesn't always wear a hat. I 262 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: think I mentioned that here on this program. I'm not 263 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: sure if you heard me speak of it. But sometimes, yeah, 264 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: he's just got his coat on, or sometimes yeah, he's 265 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: just hanging out. And yeah, I have heard him hanging 266 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: out with his hands on his hips, like and you know, 267 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: like he's about to scold or he's posing or or 268 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: something like that. And yes, he wears a cane sometimes 269 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: wears he uses a cane sometimes and not like I've 270 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: ever heard him walking with it, you know, like seeing 271 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: it move as he's gliding across the floor. I mean, 272 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: who needs it if you can glide? Right? I think 273 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: he likes to. Uh. I don't know stal profile with it, 274 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Some people have gotten really 275 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: specific on what that kane looks like as well, like 276 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: carvings on it. Um, the chain watch kind of glistening 277 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: next to it, where it's kind a metal head to it, 278 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: or you know, all sorts of stuff. So does it 279 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: sound like him? Well, it's stuck with you and you're 280 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: five or six years old at the time. So um, 281 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I would say that his presence made an impression. So 282 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say ding ding ding. Yes, it was that rotten, 283 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: low down, good for nothing scoundrel hat man with no 284 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: hat that day. Um. All right, then you said, at 285 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: the age of fifteen, at the end of your bed 286 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: you saw the outline of its arms and waist. It 287 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: looked like a person had broken into your home. All right, Um, 288 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: if it's solid black, I mean I have heard of 289 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: a disembodied how can I say broken bodied hat man 290 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: where people would just see the top part no legs. Um, 291 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: have I seen heard of a torso? I have had? Yeah, 292 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: I have had somebody asked, uh, you know, regarding a 293 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: torso solid black, and you know, I would pose a 294 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: question to you, Kaylee Kelly. Um, I'm sorry, I don't 295 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: know which way it's it's pronounced. Um, I would pose 296 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: a question, did it feel like it was the same 297 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: guy didn't feel the same because you remember from the 298 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: age of five or six, and he has got a 299 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: pretty distinctive piece of garbage feel, you know, and he 300 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: might even stink. Uh, So that I'll pose back to 301 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: you if it felt like that, because you're putting it 302 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: together here in this email, so I'm suspicious you think 303 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: it was, and it might have been. It really might 304 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: have been. All right then, Um, when you speak of 305 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: the top hat coat black figure guy, uh, yeah, that 306 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: your your co worker had seen. That's him. At him, 307 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: he does wear a top hat at times and a 308 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: cloak at times when he puts on that top hat, 309 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: and people are like, are you sure they're not two 310 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: distinctive types? Well, hat Man when he smiles, he looks 311 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: like this guy that people say, oh, maybe the grinning guy. 312 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, hat Man smiles, he's got a sense of 313 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: humor at your expense, but you would hope he would 314 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: never open up that nasty mouth. I mean, man, it 315 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: is hid d s. It is like penny Wise from 316 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: Stephen King's movie It, and that's how it gets described. 317 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, he can grin he he share call in 318 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: a grinned man. But he's no, don't calling that. It's 319 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: a hat man. Um he is, uh, yeah, he could 320 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: change it up a little bit. And now to continue 321 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: your your email says, my brother had a shadow person 322 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: attack him in his sleep, causing a paralysis like state, 323 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: and around two to three am, oh the witching hour. 324 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: It Oh, this makes me sad. It lifted him off 325 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: his bad and levitated him and spun him around in circles. 326 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got nasty chills and told him to 327 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: s and went back onto his bed feeling dizzy. Can 328 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: you imagine the terror? Haven't we seen this in several 329 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: horror movies and and we wonder where it came from? 330 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Right here you are, here's your your inspiration for terror, 331 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: unlike anything ever heard of before. That was horrible, Your 332 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: poor brother. I can't imagine what that does. I mean, 333 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm not even going to suggest, but you know, people 334 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: cope in different ways, and when they have met with 335 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: stuff like this, and it messes with their head and 336 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: their life forever, especially when people around you can't relate. 337 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm going to tell you Callie Kayley, UM, 338 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: tell your brother to meet up with other people so 339 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: he could talk about this, or have him write me 340 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: and let him know he's not alone. This is this 341 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: is horrific. This is really horrific to hear. Um. Yeah, gosh, 342 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. So he was made to feel dizzy. Yeah, 343 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I'd imagine and um that she continues, and I would 344 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: hear footsteps around my bed when I saw something at 345 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: the age of fifteen. Oh, so he was checking out 346 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: that that happens. I have got your hat Man book, 347 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: and I want to know if it was the hat 348 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: Man that me and my adult friends saw. Have a 349 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: good day. And I'm sorry if this seems too long, 350 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: Kaylee Kelly, write me as much as you'd like. Girlfriend. 351 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: I am all open to it, and I think I 352 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: answer your question about that, but I'm I'm more concerned 353 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: about your brother. Um, it sounds like, uh, it sounds 354 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: like he had the worst of it, and and that 355 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: just breaks my art. If he's sitting alone in this knowledge, 356 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: it's it's not fair. You know, when I couldn't relate 357 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: to my friend when she saw hat Man, and it 358 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: was the image that everybody has taken all over the 359 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: world of hat Man um standing there like in a 360 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: gray like background, and uh, it's just I couldn't understand 361 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: what she had witnessed. And I was a little bit 362 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: puzzled at the detail when she drew hat Man having 363 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: uh this trench coat and this chain chain watch on 364 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: his hip, and uh, you know, so much detail. Like 365 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the shadow people, they're just kind of like these blobby things, 366 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: and I would kind of take on the shape of 367 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: a of a person, but not really good and it 368 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: was just you know, slanted red eyes and whatnot. But 369 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: then then she draws this thing that came at her. 370 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: Now I saw the after uh the after show when 371 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: after she's seen him. It was horrible. I've never still, 372 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: to this day, I've never seen anybody so terrified in 373 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: my life. I still haven't the way she cowered in 374 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: the corner and just shook and uh and then you know, 375 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: draws this thing, and so I couldn't quite relate, but 376 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: I was open minded to it, and I honestly just 377 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: thought it was another form of shadow people. Took you know, wow, 378 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: he stepped out of the shadows. Okay, but it always 379 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of bothered me. I didn't I didn't know what 380 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: she had actually dealt with it, what she had actually seen, 381 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: and why why it took her words from her her, 382 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: the lung from the lung, the air from her lungs, 383 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it was just it was sad. It 384 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: was like I had to calm her. It took a while, 385 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: you know. And uh so I can't imagine to have 386 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: that piece of garbage get especially perky and it lifts 387 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: you off your bed and spin you mid air like 388 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: he's beetlejuice or something, and uh, you know that's not 389 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: that's that's highly disruptive in a person's life. Uh one 390 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: time for hat Man to look a person in the 391 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: eyes has changed people's lives. And this poor guy really 392 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: got tossed around. I mean, why would he do this? 393 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: That's that's another thing. Why what was the driving force? 394 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to spin you around until you're dizzy? I mean, 395 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: did he not cave well enough for him so he 396 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: had to take up the torture a level more? I mean, 397 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I I don't get it now. I have heard of 398 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: hat man lifting beds, lifting people. But I can't say 399 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: that I've heard uh, you know, just woo, you know, 400 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: spinning him like he's a top or something, you know, 401 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: a little spin top. That's that's not cool. I don't know. Sorry, 402 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: I think uh, I think anybody listening that's send some 403 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: good vibes towards Kaylee Kelly's brother here, because that is 404 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: highly highly upsetting and devastating. Can't even imagine. Okay, Um, 405 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: so yeah, tell your brother, write me, go to Heidi 406 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: Hollise dot com and uh, I will definitely take that 407 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: one up. But okay, so um, I'm still I'm just 408 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: I got it in my head and I'm sure you 409 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: guys got in your head too, Like what what if 410 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: you walked in on that spinning talk about the Exorcist? 411 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Did they do that in that movie? Did they spin? 412 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: It was just a head spin? Right? I hope? Like 413 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: that's nothing. Um, but yeah, I think I've seen that 414 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: movie somewhere. I don't know, but do you guys know 415 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: what it is? Write me about it? All right, you guys, 416 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to our next break. You are listening 417 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me? Heidi Hollis on the 418 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a AM paranormal 419 00:25:50,600 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: podcast network. We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are 420 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes like with me, Heidi Hollis on 421 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a AM 422 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. I am diving into your emails today randomly, 423 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: I must say, and uh, I am just going to 424 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: see what pops up, and oh gosh, I hope I 425 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: have some cool correlations, as I usually do with these emails, 426 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: and I picked them from different dates because I had 427 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: something weird happened with my emails, and probably being the 428 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: caps who knows. Um, we're like, all of a sudden, 429 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of emails came like from a year ago. 430 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: Hoom boom boom boom boom. I don't know what that 431 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: came from. It's just odd. So I picked randomly from 432 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: some of those and some of the ones that came 433 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: today or yesterday, and it's just so wild how they 434 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: kind of like compliment each other or shed light on something. 435 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: So um yeah, yeah, I think the last one was 436 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: the hat Man couch surfing. It was like, for real, 437 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: it was weird. Um okay, alright, so I'm just gonna 438 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: dive on in. UM. So this one says, Hi, Heidi, 439 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: my name is Chris. What hey, Chris, what's up? UM? 440 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: I had a few experiences with hat Man and shadow 441 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: people years ago. I am now forty years old, but 442 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: when I was in my early twenties, I had a 443 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: bad drug problem. Sorry, for years, when I was laying 444 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: in my bed at night, I would see a shadowy 445 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: figure in my room that looked to have the shape 446 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: of a female. Okay, but I could not tell much detail. Okay, 447 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: So okay, let's say something about that really quick. So 448 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: I have heard of this um. People have heard incubus 449 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: succubus UM. Very tempting type of entities. I guess you 450 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: could say that will aim to um take advantage of 451 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: somebody in the wrong ways. Okay, alright, So continuing, when 452 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: I would see the figure, I could also feel it 453 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: touching me when it appeared, and I would just lay 454 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: there and try to ignore it. Uh. Okay, but you 455 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: were um. You said you're on drugs. Okay. I did 456 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: not think much of it. Wow, as I thought it 457 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: maybe the drugs causing me to see this, even though 458 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: I did not use hallucinogenics. Okay, okay um. I tried 459 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: to quit using several times, and I prayed to be 460 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: cured of my addiction, but I kept going back to 461 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: the drugs. I swear there's an incantation over drugs that 462 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: are addictive like that, I really do. I don't know 463 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: if they have a big, old, giant, uh survey of 464 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: people doing incantations over the mixture or what, but it 465 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: makes you wonder, right, It's like, wow, what is this? Okay? 466 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: I get about brain chemistry and and how they just 467 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of locks in there and does all that stuff, 468 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: but sometimes it works for others and not you know, 469 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: in other people it does, and it's just like, I 470 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's really got a stronghold. But I 471 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: would hope that we could do an exorcism and set 472 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: everybody free from that. I wish I'll pray for that. 473 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Um Oh, it's a terrible thing. I think everybody's lives 474 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: have been affected by somebody you know that has been 475 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: affected that way, and it's it's horrible. It's horrible alright, continuing, 476 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: um by where am i? Okay? I really felt the 477 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: whole time that some outside force was dragging me down. 478 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: Oh oh see and I didn't read ahead incantations. I'm 479 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: telling you somebody cast a spell. Um. Well, after years 480 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: of addiction and seeing this shadow figure, I started seeing 481 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: what I know as hat man. He was very tall, 482 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: taking up my entire door frame, with a long coat 483 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: and a fedora. He would always stand outside my room. Okay, okay, okay, Um, 484 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: I got thoughts. I got thoughts? Should I even say? 485 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: Or let just keep reading? Um? It's like, is he 486 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: standing outside the doorway because he can't quite get in yet? 487 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: Did his little minions helped break you down? You know 488 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: while you were you know, stuck in and and you know, 489 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: people have spoke of these types of entities that take 490 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: advantage of people who are in a weakened state. And 491 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: that could be uh from drugs, alcohol, illness, death, dying, 492 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: you know all that. So they take advantage and they 493 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: try to swoop on in and grab a solar or 494 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: two for a side snack or something um or a 495 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: full course meal. It sounds horrible, but this is what 496 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: they do. They feed, they feed off from this and 497 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: they try to possess and take over. It's it's horrible. 498 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Um okay, alright, So continuing, Uh, there was another smaller 499 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: figure with him. I'm dressed the same but much shorter. Oh, 500 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: I've heard of this one. I have not seen any 501 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: accounts of the small her figure with him. Do you 502 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: know what that is? Yes? Kind of um, so, okay, 503 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: get this. It's like a mini me of him that 504 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: mimics and people are like, does he have a kid 505 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: or something? And I'm like, you know, he's got other 506 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: minions that hang with him. And the shadow woman also 507 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: does people call her the hag or the old hag? Um. 508 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: So there's an old hag that's like a wretched, nasty 509 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: looking woman who's smaller, really small and stature like like 510 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm normally small, but wide and almost like like something 511 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: that's ah, you know, the wicked witch like image that 512 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: comes in your hand of old timey movies, you know, 513 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: with like award on her nose and really long nose 514 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: and nasty teeth like that kind of thing. Is. She 515 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of hobbles when she walks. And then there's the 516 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: really like attractive looking shadowy like girl lady. I don't 517 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: know that really goes after the young guys I've heard 518 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: more of and they're like what is this and they're 519 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: calling it you know, a shadow woman and uh, if 520 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: it's next to hat Man, heck, yeah, you know, yeah, 521 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: I would say that she works for him. She's a 522 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: minion of a sort. And you got to think of 523 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: shadow people, what can they do? Oh, oh that's right, 524 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: they can shape shift. Yes, so um, that is something 525 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: to keep in mind as wow. Um, so okay, I'm 526 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm feeling you. So yeah, that's another minion. Um. I 527 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: don't know if they're playing dress up with daddy, go 528 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: to work day um or what. But yeah, he's not common. Uh, 529 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: it is not common to come tag along, but it happens, 530 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: all right, So Chris continues. Anyway, after a couple of 531 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: weeks of seeing them outside my door, they started to 532 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 1: try to come into my room. Oh I knew it 533 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: that that something was holding him out. Yeah, they're trying 534 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: to break down your berry. This is the observation time period, 535 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: and this is where people get confused, like, well, it's 536 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: just watching. It's probably just protecting me. It's a it's 537 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: an observational phase where they are trying to see how 538 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: to get in if they couldn't get in. They are 539 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: really really concentrating on it, and it may take a 540 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: long time for this to happen. But they will try 541 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: to tap that door and hope to hope to God 542 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: it never happens, of course, but they'll try. They'll try anything. 543 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh, oh, he's sick. Oh oh, 544 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: this is going on now. Oh, I learned his dirty secret. 545 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, let's give him nightmares about it. So he 546 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: lets me in. You know, it's it's weird. It's not 547 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: like they're asking permission. That's just they find a way, 548 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: all right. So they staid outside your door and they 549 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: started to try come in my room. They would almost 550 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: make it too and suddenly be transported out of the doorway, 551 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: as if someone would not let them get to me. Jesus, 552 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: I hope. Um. All right. This went on a couple 553 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: of weeks, and my drug use was spiraling out of control. Oh, 554 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I began praying for relief for God, Jesus, anyone. 555 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: We just told Jesus said, anyone to help me get 556 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: rid of my drug addiction. Man, that's that's that's hard. 557 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: One night I had the most vivid dream I have 558 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: ever had. I was standing in my grandmother's backyard. Oh, 559 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: I got goose bumps, and St. Michael was there. Floating 560 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: in front of me, and he told me, don't worry, 561 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: you are on the right path, and he spread his wings. 562 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you guys feel that? Ah? Warm 563 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: more and warm goose bumps. I could feel the light 564 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: in the warmth, the words warm come from him. Then 565 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: he embraced me, and that's all I remember of the dream. 566 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how beautiful. You wondered who was the 567 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: guard at that door? And then he revealed himself. You know, man, Chris, 568 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: I wish I could ask you if you're Catholic or 569 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: what your belief system is or was before all of this, 570 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: because I hear people talk of archangel Michael st Michael 571 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: appearing and doing this kind of thing and these stories 572 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: that I don't hear enough of them, and it seems 573 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: to be within circles of people who are Catholic, and 574 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: then there's those who are just absolutely agnostic and don't 575 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: have any thoughts on it. And I have seen a 576 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: lot of really really earth shattering and very cool things, 577 00:35:53,800 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: including angelic beings, Jesus encounters, and I have not seen Michael. 578 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: And I just think it would be so cool to 579 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: have that opportunity to be in such a presence because 580 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: this embrace I hear of him showing up as a 581 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: as a warrior of a sort, and and the knowledge 582 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: that he shares, and it's usually something brief like you 583 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: got this or I'm here to protect you, and then 584 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: that embrace. Can you imagine being in the brace of 585 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: of wings? And and this is like the only consistent 586 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: being I hear having wings. It's amazing, it's amazing. And 587 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: uh in in the field of it, and and that 588 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: sensation of him in his presence. And you know, I 589 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: have a friend that's an angel medium and um, and 590 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, that's neat and and and other people 591 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: who have said angels can be huge the size of mountains. 592 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, wow, holy moli. Can you imagine walking 593 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: down the street and like, did that mountain just move? 594 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he was bumped over. It's an angel. 595 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen angelic beings. I did not see 596 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: them that big. I can't imagine seeing something that big. Ever, Um, 597 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: we'll hold it. I've seen a UFO that took up 598 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: the entire night sky and the whole body of it 599 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: glowed orange just red. So I was, yeah, I just 600 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: see something pretty big as a mountain flying in the 601 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: air without a sound, um, but an angel. This is beautiful, this, 602 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: this is this is this is powerful right here because 603 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: all these people who tell me they feel hat Man 604 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: is guarding them, and here it was somebody's like arch 605 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: angel Michael standing at the door not letting them at you. Oh, 606 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 1: we got to talk more on this before I feel 607 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: dis dow um because this is Oh I'm gonna use 608 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: this one. You guys are gonna hear about this one 609 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: a lot more as an example. All right, you guys, 610 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 611 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: Hollise on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 612 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: a UM Paranormal podcast Networks. Stick around, finished this welcome back. 613 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi 614 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 615 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: a UM Paranormal podcast network. Just before the break. O 616 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: M G O M G. I am so grateful for 617 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: this email right here. This is a first okay, a first. 618 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: Mark this day on your calendar, the day that Heidie 619 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: got the answers for these people who say hat Man 620 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: was guarding them. Perhaps he was a guardian angel and 621 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 1: the confusion with that because something for Chris, who wrote 622 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: me here was blocking hat Man and his little mini me. 623 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm referring to. Thank Austin Powers. Yes, 624 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: it's an old silly movie I loved. And uh, a 625 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: little tiny replica of himself standing next to hat Man 626 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: and trying to get in and gain access to Chris 627 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: or Christ and pray, you know, oh, I need help 628 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: to break my addiction. And hat Man and this little 629 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: mini me would just kind of hang there and and 630 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: couldn't get through the door. I couldn't get through the doorway. 631 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Archangel Michael st. Michael 632 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: comes forward ed says, this is so beautiful. Don't worry. 633 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: You are on the right path. Floating in front of Chris. 634 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that, and spread his wings it could 635 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: feel the light and warmth coming, and then embraced him. 636 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: I have heard of Archangel Michael doing this, and and 637 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 1: so this feeling that people are getting like, well, hat 638 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: Man doesn't bother me. I think he's just there to 639 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: protect me. He's like a guardian angel. They have used 640 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: that word guardian angel, or two words guardian angel. There 641 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: and Archangel Michael was actually the one blocking him to 642 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: get in. Isn't that something? Probably because the people that 643 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: would write me and say, oh I saw hat Man 644 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: out the door, you know, or I saw him standing 645 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: there just watching me, not able to gain access, or 646 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: or usually it was more like, well he's just staring, 647 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: so he feels protective. So maybe they kind of let 648 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: their guard down and couldn't see the full picture. As 649 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: Chris here who opened up and said, God help me. 650 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: Isn't this amazing? I mean, I don't know about you guys, 651 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: but I am the Lord, the Lord. This is cool. 652 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: See how we learn here? Listen. The only times that 653 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: people say hat Man helped or is a good guy, 654 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: it is because they feel he might be a guardian 655 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: angel though these words get used. He's a guardian, he's 656 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: standing guard, guard, protector. It wasn't him, there was another 657 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: opposing force keeping him away. Wow, oh my goodness. I 658 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: have prayed for the answer to this why people feel 659 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: this way, because it's confusing, like because we'll say it 660 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: another time. You know, I could tell he's a bad guy, 661 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: but he didn't hurt me, and I feel this protection 662 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: coming off of him. Well, well now we know why 663 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: this is this is incredible. Wow. I'm going to keep 664 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: referencing this until forever, until I get more emails like 665 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: this one. All right, man, Okay, I got goose bumps. 666 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm extremely happy, all right? And they continue. The next day, 667 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: a co worker randomly, oh my gosh, randomly gave me 668 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: a Saint Michael metal that was blessed. I was twenty 669 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: six years old then and I am forty now, and 670 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: I have not touched another drug since that day. Nor 671 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: do I feel a desire to owe everybody. I feel 672 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: like we all got a little embraced from Archagel Michael, ourselves. 673 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Oh I got goose bumps. And and this kind of 674 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: answers my question if you're catholic, because to take a medal, 675 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a Catholic thing. Yeah, alright. 676 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: I also have not seen shadow people are hat Man 677 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: since then. I really feel that Sat Michael cured me 678 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: and gave me a sort of spiritual armor to protect me. 679 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, it sounds like it is. It 680 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: really sounds like it. I just started to get into 681 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: the paranormal about two years ago, and I'd never heard 682 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: of shadow people or hat Man until I found your podcast. 683 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: Only a couple of months ago when I heard them described, 684 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: I knew that is what exactly I saw. Thank you 685 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: for all that you do, Chris. Oh, Chris, oh gosh, 686 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: I am so just grateful. Wow, thank you for taking 687 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: the time. Ah, you don't know how many people you 688 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: may have helped just now. I'm not even exaggerating. And 689 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: it's going to help me for the talking about this subject. 690 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: This this confusion with why hat Man is felt to 691 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: be a protector. It's not him, so makes sense. Something's 692 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: keeping him back. So people aren't feeling you know, you 693 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: weren't feeling that that. You know, you don't think much 694 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: of it. You just thought it was a drugs or 695 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: something you said with all of this right, or did 696 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: I even confuse that? But so maybe you weren't feeling 697 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: the threat of that as much because Michael was protecting 698 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: that field from hitting you that you were in a 699 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: weekend state enough that you needed help, and he was 700 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: just working it up so you could see him and 701 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: hear him. Oh my gosh, this is so oh. See, 702 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: this is why you guys can't just listen to this show. 703 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: If you know something, say something, tell me, tell us 704 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: you have got to I mean with knowledge becomes responsibility. 705 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: It really does. And that's why I do what I do, 706 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: because I can't sit on things that I know could 707 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: help somebody else. If I think it's gonna harm others, 708 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. But if I feel if 709 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm helping, it's it's our duty, isn't it gonna? This 710 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: is what we do in this lifetime. We lift each 711 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: other up, you know. And I hope we got a 712 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: good grip and can give some more support under there. Wow, Chris, 713 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: you took the cake. You really did, all right? Um So, 714 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ride this high. This feels so good. 715 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,479 Speaker 1: Um So this next email, this one says, this comes 716 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: from Steve come back in and eighty nine. I live 717 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: with my ex and kids in a haunted house. Oh 718 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: say no more. Many nights the kids were woken screaming 719 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: with night terrors. Oh, night terrors, sleep paralysis, shadow people, 720 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 1: That's what that means to me. Things would fall off 721 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: the shelves, extreme cold spots, voices, all the classic haunting signs. Okay, 722 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: and then one night I saw a large shadow figure 723 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: with a hat walk out of the kid's bedroom. Would 724 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: I say, would I say? I knew it night terrorsts 725 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: come on. Um. I shook it off and figured it 726 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: was right after a night of heavy drinking, so did 727 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: not think much else about it at the time. I 728 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,959 Speaker 1: see how alcohol and drugs kind of mixes in there 729 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: and and confuses what's actually going on and leaves us 730 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: more vulnerable. And these things know that, and it makes 731 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: our judgment calls be a lot less, you know, fight 732 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: or flight. You know, they're like, oh, well, something wacked 733 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: out the room. Uh. Three more times I saw this 734 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: entity and was very much sober. Oh it changed, and 735 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: had no idea until I heard these stories about shadow 736 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: men with hats many years later. I have not seen 737 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: them since. Steve Well, Steve Wow, thanks for sharing that. 738 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: That's a that is very classic. But you know, having 739 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: the quote unquote haunting signs, you know, poulter Geist like activity. Uh, 740 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: listen to all these things, you know, the cold spots, 741 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: the boy says in and who walks out of the bedroom? 742 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: Hat man. I didn't hear anything else, like a ghost 743 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: showed up. I didn't hear about anything else. And when 744 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: you said the night terrors and the screaming shadow people, 745 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: hat man, they'll pin you down and do that kind 746 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: of thing. So when we say haunting, haunting signs, does 747 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: does that sound like a ghost? Hat Man is not 748 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: a ghost. Shadow people were never people. Okay, so is 749 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: this a haunting. I think there's gonna be a better 750 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: word for it. It's a stalking. This is a stalking incident. 751 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: And it's not like it just goes with the territory, 752 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: could follow you. Luckily it didn't. So these, uh, these 753 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 1: things when when you're not finding you know, Grandpa Joe 754 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: was hanging out at the house and you saw hat 755 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: Man walking out of a bedroom. This is not haunting. 756 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: This is really a much worse problem and a much 757 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: worse situation. And man, I remember when I was first 758 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: bringing these topics to the forefront, and I'd get these 759 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: ghost hunters saying, oh, you're wrong, you don't know what 760 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: you're talking about, and it's like, this is a you know, 761 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: a ghost casting a shadow of themselves. I was like, 762 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 1: and now I got my information about what these things 763 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: were off planet, not for myself, I should say, from 764 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: other beings, not from here. And um, they told me 765 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: it was coming and it would get worse, and it 766 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: would it would reveal itself to many, many people, and 767 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,720 Speaker 1: so I would just tell these ghost hunters you be patient, 768 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: they're coming. They're gonna tell you, you know, what's going on. 769 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: And then I hear back from those ghost hunters They're like, oh, 770 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: what did I just see? What did I just deal with? 771 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, did it seem human? No? No, no, 772 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: no no, not not at all, not at all. Okay, alright, 773 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 1: so we're on the same page. Um, this is information. 774 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here preaching for myself. This is not 775 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: my information. This is from elsewhere. Okay. Um, so yeah, 776 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: I I took it to heart, and after what I 777 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: had experienced and seen and where I got the information from, 778 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: I didn't need to be convinced any further, and uh 779 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: put it out there against all odds, and boom, millions 780 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: have now heard the story, just as I was told 781 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: I was supposed to go that way. Um. So I'm 782 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: telling you, wow, man, these emails, these emails today, they 783 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: were a little bit connected because we had the hat 784 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: manage gentle people's stuff. And uh, but then Chris Man, Chris, Chris, 785 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: your story was the rock star moment today and I 786 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: am really really grateful for that because this is just 787 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: what we needed to hear. So I wanna invite everybody. 788 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: Let me go to my main website, Heidi Hollis dot 789 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: com or a shadow folks dot com. Tell me what 790 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: you have experienced, because look at this right here, look 791 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: at this. This is going to live on for a 792 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: long time because, um, we got answers. We just now 793 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: got the answers and it makes sense, it fits. We 794 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: see the patterns I know I have. Wow. I wanna 795 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in, which comes to the 796 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: bottom of another fabulous show. I feel enlightened, I feel lighter, 797 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: and I want to meet our angel Michael. Let us 798 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: see what's going on with him. Wow, And uh, you know, 799 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: don't forget go to the Outlanders comic dot com and 800 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: uh see you guys. 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