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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into episode twelve, the best podcast available.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs, He's Andrew Gribble and today and this

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Speaker 1: week it's get to know some of your new Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns rookies. The rookie class is in coming up. On

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Speaker 1: today's show the highest profile rookie. We will hear from

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Speaker 1: one of our mid round draft picks, We'll hear from

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Speaker 1: Project X, and we'll hear from an undrafted free agent

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Speaker 1: that they call the Scottish Hammer. A full, full program

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Speaker 1: for you today, Gribbs. Rookie Minicamp in the rear view

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Speaker 1: mirror already, and the guys are out of the building

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Speaker 1: for about five or six days to get their final

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Speaker 1: once you come here starting next week for Phase three

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Speaker 1: because I think the big difference with the Rocky Minicamp

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Speaker 1: lack of hype, lack of buzz. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: what happens when you've got your quarterback situation settled and

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Speaker 1: he was the first pick, but he's still a second

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Speaker 1: round pick. So uh, it was interesting to see these

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Speaker 1: there's a clear divide I think between players you draft

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Speaker 1: I was delighted to know that I maybe know football

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Speaker 1: So it shows if you make plays, you can get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity here. But you know, it's just a kind

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Speaker 1: We got to see him for two days. They basically

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Speaker 1: A number of alumni coming back this year John Dorsey

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Speaker 1: where the Brown and Orange. I thought that was a

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Speaker 1: nice touch of a full weekend for those guys. And really,

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Speaker 1: the day that the college football season ends through the

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Speaker 1: right after the draft. Yeah, it's especially hectic when you do.

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Speaker 1: The Browns do their rookie mini camp right after the draft,

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Speaker 1: and and they are in the minority with that. I

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it goes two ways. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: I think some teams will have their mini camp this weekend,

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Speaker 1: you're right, you do have a week you have a

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Speaker 1: well and our good friends in the on the video

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Speaker 1: things get talked about. A solid way to start off

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Speaker 1: the best podcast available, GRIBs. Is there something you learned

431
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Speaker 1: from Griddy Williams that maybe you didn't know going into this.

432
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I maybe knew this, but he

433
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Speaker 1: You can tell this guy went to a He has

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Speaker 1: the big program swagger to him. I think that's that

435
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Speaker 1: there's no he might be wide eyed right now, but

436
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Speaker 1: it's not because he's intimidated by the competition. I think

437
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Speaker 1: he is coming into this situation expecting to have a

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Speaker 1: really good shot at being a player that starts right away.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that's part. It's part of the

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Speaker 1: culture at l s U, and I think it's we

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Speaker 1: we see it with our our two other guys who

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Speaker 1: are from L s You mean that those are guys

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Speaker 1: with confidence swagger. I mean I think that that's what

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Speaker 1: you see from those players, and it's because they're used

445
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Speaker 1: to the bright lights. I don't think there's anything that

446
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Speaker 1: is gonna overwhelm UH Greedy Williams. But I think he's

447
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Speaker 1: got to have the mindset that he has a lot

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Speaker 1: to get better at UH and there's not gonna be

449
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Speaker 1: anything handed to him right now. No, question. I mean,

450
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Speaker 1: Denzel Awards said it the other day on Cleveland Brown's Daily.

451
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Speaker 1: He said, I can show him what I know, but

452
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Speaker 1: I've only been in the league for one year. There's

453
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Speaker 1: a lot I still need to learn. So I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a process and he's

455
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Speaker 1: got to have some patients. And it's crazy because when

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Speaker 1: you think about Denzel stepped in right away as if

457
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Speaker 1: he's been doing this for years, but he didn't even

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Speaker 1: play that much at Ohio State. And I think Greedy

459
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Speaker 1: he played two full seasons. I mean, he was that.

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Speaker 1: He he was a starter from day one the moment

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Speaker 1: they after his redshirt years, so he was he was

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Speaker 1: a full two year starter, so arguably more experience than

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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward had. But there's just some some things that

464
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Speaker 1: he needs to to work on. Uh, And we'll get

465
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Speaker 1: better at as he as he gets used to a

466
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Speaker 1: defense that's gonna ask some different things out of him.

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Speaker 1: All Right, So we talked about Greedy, Williams l s

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Speaker 1: U obviously, UH, Mack Wilson from Alabama, Austin Siebert from Oklahoma,

469
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Speaker 1: guys from big programs, and the next one up on

470
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Speaker 1: our list, our fourth round pick and the number one

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Speaker 1: guy we took on Day three of the NFL draft

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Speaker 1: in Sheldrick red Wine. The safety out of the U

473
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Speaker 1: were now the you of the North. I've heard that

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Speaker 1: saying more than a few times. But yet another player

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Speaker 1: coming up from Miami. Uh, here's a kid that was

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Speaker 1: an All Conference Honorable Mention All the Conference. Sheldrick had

477
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Speaker 1: a had a great junior year. Senior year, maybe play

478
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Speaker 1: total a little bit, but number one. Right off the bat,

479
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Speaker 1: he made significant contributions freshman year and sophomore year and

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Speaker 1: special teams and became one of those core special teams

481
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Speaker 1: guys and a role that I think that Mike Preefer

482
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Speaker 1: and company have envisioned for him right off the bat

483
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Speaker 1: here in Cleveland. Yeah, and he's got really good recovery

484
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Speaker 1: speed and I think that he's open to really helping

485
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Speaker 1: this team wherever they can can get it. I think

486
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Speaker 1: the position that he plays the best as a spot

487
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Speaker 1: currently man by Numarius Randall. So I it's gonna be

488
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Speaker 1: hard to see him getting kind of a regular UH

489
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Speaker 1: field time, but maybe he can't. Maybe they can find

490
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Speaker 1: a role for him on this team that way. But

491
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Speaker 1: you're right, I think special teams is gonna be where

492
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Speaker 1: he really contributes in another guy kind of oozing with confidence,

493
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Speaker 1: the swagger the Miami does that even when because he

494
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Speaker 1: was there the junior year where Miami was really good

495
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Speaker 1: for a little bit there again, uh and he was

496
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Speaker 1: kind of one of the faces of their defense during

497
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Speaker 1: that time, played under many daz down there. Uh So

498
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Speaker 1: I think he brings a lot of confidence. But he's

499
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Speaker 1: also someone that's relatively new to the safety position, only

500
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Speaker 1: been playing it for a couple of years. But you know,

501
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Speaker 1: he's now one of eight Miami players in this team

502
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Speaker 1: because she signed two more after the trouts. That's eight

503
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Speaker 1: Miami players on this team. It's almost one ninth the

504
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Speaker 1: rostrating and a lot of them are almost all of

505
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Speaker 1: them are from Miami to like they grew up in Miami.

506
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Speaker 1: Like when I asked him, I don't think he even

507
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Speaker 1: considered going anywhere else, like he probably could have. But

508
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Speaker 1: this is this is what he was. He did have

509
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Speaker 1: a number of Division one offers, He had eight Division

510
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Speaker 1: one offers and end up going with you for obvious reasons,

511
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Speaker 1: a successful player for them, And here we're hoping that

512
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Speaker 1: he's going to be just as successful. Here's Andrew Gribble

513
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Speaker 1: sitting down with Sheldrick RedWine have a listen Saturday. She

514
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Speaker 1: probably knew a lot about the Browns even before he

515
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Speaker 1: came here, just because a lot of a lot of

516
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Speaker 1: former Miami guys. What was it like to know that

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Speaker 1: you're walking into a situation with a lot of familiar

518
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Speaker 1: faces out there. Uh, you know, it was a great feeling,

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Speaker 1: you know, just having them, you know, having those guys

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Speaker 1: you know that I played with, you know, and that

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Speaker 1: I've seen around being able to just try to help

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Speaker 1: me get a custom you know. Uh, really just fond

523
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Speaker 1: everything works in the NFL. Just what is it about

524
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Speaker 1: that program that just keeps sending guys in the NFL.

525
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Speaker 1: Is it's just the mentality or it is just growing

526
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Speaker 1: up there? What? What? What? What would you say contributes

527
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Speaker 1: to it? I'll say both, you know, guys who came

528
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Speaker 1: from these I mean guys who came from out of state,

529
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Speaker 1: I feel like they really fell into the mentality. And

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Speaker 1: guys who from I m you know, I feel like

531
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Speaker 1: we're just born with the mentality. Do you even consider

532
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Speaker 1: going are else? Oh no, it was not even consideration.

533
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Speaker 1: You know, I got offered late in the process, but

534
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Speaker 1: I knew whenever I got the opportunity, I was going

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Speaker 1: to run with it. I guess the same mentality guys

536
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Speaker 1: when you you were you started as a corner, moved

537
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Speaker 1: to safety. What was the biggest adjustment you made go

538
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Speaker 1: in that process. The biggest adjustment just trying to adjust

539
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Speaker 1: tackle angles really from coming inside out, you know, the

540
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: uh coming downhill. But you know, it's it's football, you know.

541
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Speaker 1: I never really it was. It was just football to me.

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Speaker 1: You know. They tell me to do it, you know,

543
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to go execute it to the

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Speaker 1: best of my ability. Is there something you like about

545
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Speaker 1: the position that you maybe didn't think think about before

546
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Speaker 1: you made that switch. No, I never had. I never

547
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Speaker 1: really thought about it. You know. It was just, you know,

548
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Speaker 1: like I said, you know, just football. Just I like

549
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Speaker 1: the physical aspect of it, you know, being able to

550
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Speaker 1: show my speed, so the range on the field. You know.

551
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Speaker 1: But it's really it's it's all football to me, you know.

552
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Speaker 1: I just I just love being on the field. I've

553
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Speaker 1: asked a lot of guys this, but when is the

554
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Speaker 1: first time in your in your life, going way back,

555
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Speaker 1: when you thought about NFL being a possibility for you Uh.

556
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Speaker 1: I'll probably say my tenth grade year, going into my

557
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Speaker 1: eleven grade year, my first year as a starter in

558
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Speaker 1: high school. You know when I really realized, you know, uh,

559
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Speaker 1: if I you know, if I put the work in,

560
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, just and sacrifice a lot, you know, and

561
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Speaker 1: separate myself from others. You know, I could really have

562
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Speaker 1: a possibility going to the NFL. What position where you're

563
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Speaker 1: playing back? Now, it's just corner. We're doing a lot

564
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Speaker 1: of other stuff. I was just playing a corner. And

565
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Speaker 1: has it always been corner where you guys that wanted

566
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Speaker 1: to have the ball in your hands? Initially early in

567
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Speaker 1: your in your career, I played offense on my on

568
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Speaker 1: my in my little league part, you know. But my

569
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Speaker 1: stepfather was my coach in high school. As soon as

570
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Speaker 1: I got to high school, you know, he told me

571
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Speaker 1: I'm going straight to defense, knowing that if we're the

572
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Speaker 1: guys that you watched growing up, that you wanted to

573
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Speaker 1: emulate their game. Oh yeah. I was a big Airy

574
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Speaker 1: fan coming up, a big Sean Taylor fan coming up.

575
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Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, you know, Miami guys. You know, I loved

576
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Speaker 1: Ray Lewis and every passion for the game. You know, Uh,

577
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Speaker 1: their leadership and you know, just try to translate that,

578
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Speaker 1: you know the physical nature of it, you know, just

579
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Speaker 1: being the Miami guy, you have to be physical. You

580
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Speaker 1: seem like a pretty reserved guy. But is that change

581
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Speaker 1: on the on the field and you try to be

582
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Speaker 1: as vocals those guys were, oh yeah, definitely. You know,

583
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Speaker 1: uh really like you said, you're not really reserved off

584
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Speaker 1: the field. But you know, I love showing my personality

585
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Speaker 1: on the field. You know, whether they be celebrations, you know,

586
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Speaker 1: talking or whatever, you know, but I just like sowing

587
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Speaker 1: personality on the field, you know, because it's fun to me.

588
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: I know, the Miami people, they you like the dry

589
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Speaker 1: ray sport that that was the thing they brought up

590
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Speaker 1: always what's the story behind that? And like why did

591
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Speaker 1: you kind of take her to take that over? Me

592
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Speaker 1: and Michael Jackson the corner we talked about it like

593
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Speaker 1: a day before um the North Carolina game my junior year.

594
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Speaker 1: You know, we was just thinking of celebration of what

595
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Speaker 1: we could do if we got to change. You know,

596
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Speaker 1: we used to do that before every game, what we

597
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Speaker 1: could do. And you know, uh, he really came up

598
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Speaker 1: with the idea, you know, just grabbing the board, you know,

599
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Speaker 1: and then I thought about it, and you know, and

600
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Speaker 1: then the next game, I mean the next day, you know,

601
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Speaker 1: I actually caught an interception. You know, I wasn't going

602
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Speaker 1: to do it, you know, but I've seen him. He

603
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Speaker 1: was running towards me. What the white board, you know,

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Speaker 1: it actually reminded me, you know, so I grabbed it,

605
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Speaker 1: wrote something on it, and then it was just born

606
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Speaker 1: from there. You know. I decided to just make it mine.

607
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Speaker 1: I was gonna do it every time I got to

608
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Speaker 1: turn over. What was the first thing you read on

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Speaker 1: do you remember hashtag s c top ten sports? Thought

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Speaker 1: to nah, I mean I think they played it, but

611
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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't really make the top ten. It

612
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Speaker 1: wasn't a big splash player. You know, it's an interception

613
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Speaker 1: for like probably twenty yards, no touchdown. But you know,

614
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Speaker 1: it's just something I didn't really think about what the

615
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Speaker 1: right before, you know, all the other times, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had something pre thought, but that was just something

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Speaker 1: that just came off my head. You had to be

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Speaker 1: were you're about, like a freshman the turnover chain came

619
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Speaker 1: back or were you was that happening before you got there?

620
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Speaker 1: The turnover change. Now I was only two years old.

621
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Speaker 1: I was a junior. They came and started my junior

622
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Speaker 1: well do you remember that the origin of that or

623
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Speaker 1: Howard Scientific? Did that make your entire group? And then

624
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: it made us very excited, you know because ds uh

625
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: he showed us it the my junior year the first game,

626
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, in a defensive meeting, you know, and everybody

627
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: went crazy. You know, everybody's talking about how they wanted

628
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: to be the first to get it. You know. So

629
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Speaker 1: I had an opportunity in the first game to get it.

630
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Speaker 1: I didn't got it. I didn't get it, you know. Uh,

631
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Speaker 1: they called it what I thought was an interception. You know,

632
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Speaker 1: I tried to scoop a ball off the ground, you know,

633
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Speaker 1: to catch the intercepts, and they called it dead ball,

634
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Speaker 1: you know, and I was disappointed. But you know, one

635
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Speaker 1: of my other teams got it first. What's gonna be

636
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Speaker 1: the biggest adjustment coming from Miami's defense and what you've

637
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: learned so far about this defense? I mean, it's all football,

638
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta learn, you know, whatever they throw

639
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: at you know, your professional now, so this is your job,

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Speaker 1: you know. So they give you a playbook, it's your

641
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: job to learn it, you know. So uh, if many

642
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Speaker 1: adjustments just you know, I mean I really can't see

643
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: any right now. You know it's still early, but you

644
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: know it's all football, you know, just play football. Did

645
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: you ever feel in you becoming here or did you

646
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: was there a team maybe in the process you thought

647
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: you'd be going to Uh No, not really. You know,

648
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: I just took the process, you know, one day at

649
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: a time. You know, I never really thought about, you

650
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: know what around what team. You know, I just I

651
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: was just waiting on the opportunity. You know, I knew

652
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna get an opportunity now. I was just wherever,

653
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: how I felt, wherever I had to go. I just

654
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: had to make the most of it. You know, going

655
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: back to last Saturday, who was in your house or

656
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: wherever you're at. Who is the most excited one when

657
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: you finally got the call. Probably my auntie and my mother,

658
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: you know, they both were screaming this out and you know,

659
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: just happy. Just what's the last few days of getting

660
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: here and getting your life together? Man, It's probably been

661
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: pretty crazy five days or so, I wouldn't say so,

662
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, I'm still living in a

663
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still you know, trying to grasp that

664
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: it's actually happened, you know. So, Uh, it's it's a

665
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: crazy feeling right now. But I wouldn't say nothing been

666
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: too hectic just going into the secondary. You got Greedy

667
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: Williams is the Secon round pick Denzil Award. This this

668
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: group is coming off a pretty good year. How exciting

669
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: is it to get into a group with this much talent?

670
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: Very exciting? You know, those both great players. You know, Uh,

671
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: there's an a war. You know had a head level

672
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: rookie season. You know Greedy Williams. Knowing him from college,

673
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: you know he was one of the best dbs and

674
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: come not a calusers. Know, so it's exciting to be

675
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: able to play with the next to those. Red Wine

676
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: appreciate a few minutes of his time in our Get

677
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: to Know the Rookies on the Best Podcast Available, Episode

678
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: twelve edition, grips anything that stood out to you now,

679
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just he's he when we talked to

680
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: enough of him, He's another Miami guy like that. There's

681
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: just a different kind of feeling with those guys. And

682
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: I've been around enough of them through my career, whether

683
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: be before or after before during my time here, it's

684
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: just those guys in Miami grew up knowing even though

685
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: he didn't grow up, I'm trying to like go back

686
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: in time, did he He might have been just getting

687
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: born Slash started when that second Miami dynasty started up,

688
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: where they were just loaded with talent, with the the

689
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: kind of the Kellen Winslow era that he might have

690
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: been one or two years yeah, I mean, well he

691
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: might it might be four or five, four or five

692
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: or six around at that age. So maybe when he

693
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: was really little, that was the second great boost of Miami.

694
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: They probably didn't win as much as they should have

695
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: ultimately because Ohio State beat them in that one National

696
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: championship game, but that in terms of churning guys out

697
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: and putting them in the NFL, I mean, he grew

698
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: up in that era. And I think that even when

699
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 1: Miami isn't winning at that same level, all their players

700
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: seem to carry that that confidence like as if they

701
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: were winning. And I think that's just part of the culture,

702
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: part of the program. And uh, it might might be

703
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: a reason why our our guy Alonzo who went there

704
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: kind of likes some of these guys, and these guys

705
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: turn out to be be all right, I think the

706
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: Browns have been happy with their Miami guys so far.

707
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: By the way, going back to what we were talking

708
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: about earlier, he chose Miami over Arkansas, Louisville, Kentucky, South Florida, Illinois, Indiana,

709
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: and Minnesota. Interesting three Midwest teams and Big Ten teams

710
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: going after him there. Yeah, I mean those Midwest schools,

711
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: they've got to have people in Florida because there's not

712
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: enough talent to fill out your roster in your region.

713
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Miami could. If they just

714
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: made their teams straight out of Miami guys, they wouldn't

715
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: be too bad. So it's it's it's one of those

716
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: areas where the talent is is kind of consolidated in

717
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: a lot of areas around this guy, I believe both

718
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: of our alma maters out of the Mid American Conference effort.

719
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Usually get the left usually get the leftovers. Usually usually

720
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: get the leftovers that that don't get made the cut

721
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: down there? All right? That was Sheldrick red Wine player

722
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: number three and our Meet the Rookies. Best podcast available

723
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: is Drew Forbes taking a pick number nine in the

724
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: sixth round, The Tackle out of Southeast Missouri state otherwise

725
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: known as Prospect x UH in the Monday Morning QB

726
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: and the mm qb UH series that was done, and

727
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: a guy that has shown some flashes, but a guy

728
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: that when you get taken that late on day three,

729
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: you're probably looking at developing more than anything else in

730
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: the sixth round. Yeah, and it's interesting. I get the impression.

731
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he regretted doing the Prospect X story,

732
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking he's going to be tired of the

733
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: fact that he did the Prospect X story because that's

734
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: it's like what he's known as now. And you know

735
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be getting ribbed on from his teammates the

736
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: moment he starts joining some of these veterans. I mean, there,

737
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line last year had a thing where if

738
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: you were featured on Hard Knocks, you had to pay

739
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: a fee. So they don't like the individual individual attention

740
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: to begin with, so you know they're going to give

741
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: him a hard time about that. And really, when you

742
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: talk to him, it's like, this guy is not a

743
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: spotlight seeking kind of guy. I mean, he's not used

744
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: to doing a ton of interviews now a lot not

745
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: not used to a lot of exposure so I mean

746
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: we talked about these ls. You guys who are used

747
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: to the bright light spotlight. Drew Forbes will admit he's

748
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: the opposite of that, and I think it goes from

749
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: both the exposure and the level of competition. I mean,

750
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: he he's played with a couple of players that went

751
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: to the NFL from Southeast Missouri, but not weekend week out.

752
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: He's not facing the top competition, So I think adjusting

753
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: to that is going to be his big thing. And

754
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: then really for him is is figuring out what position

755
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna play here. I mean it's it's a lot

756
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: like the situation Spencer Drango found himself in a few

757
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: years ago here where you give him a shot at tackle.

758
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: If he can do it, great, If not, we'll find

759
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: a place for you on the inside. Yeah, he's he's

760
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a utility guy until they figure out where

761
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: exactly if he wants to make the team he's got

762
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: to be. I mean there's no guarantee for him right now.

763
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean this is a loaded offensive line, not just

764
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: with your starters. But you know, Dorsey went to work

765
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: on the depth, I mean bringing in multiple veteran guards.

766
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: He signed Kenda Lamb as a tackle. I mean, yeah,

767
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's gonna it's not gonna be

768
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: easy for for him to make this team. I mean,

769
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's the numbers game right now. Yeah, and

770
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to hide a guy that maybe was so

771
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: high profile on a practice squad, right as in Drew Forbes.

772
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: But Drew Forbes, uh went through the media gauntlet for

773
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: a couple of days and gave us a few good

774
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: minutes here. Ever, listen and gribble with Drew Forbes. You're

775
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: just kind of walk me through these last couple of

776
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: days on what it's been like to go from Missouri

777
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: to to now with the Browns here. It's definitely a

778
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: change of scenery and resources and uh, just people as well.

779
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: But I'm really excited to be here and I can't

780
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: wait to for practice this evening. For you, especially being

781
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: a kind of an off the radar prospect, how how

782
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: much of the kind of dream come true is kind

783
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: of settled in at this point in the process. I'm

784
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to focus on getting better every day

785
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: at this point, you know what, You know what I'm saying, Like,

786
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if if I let us sink in

787
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: and reflect on it too much. I I don't want

788
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: to detract from like where I'm trying to head and

789
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. But it's definitely, uh, definitely a dream

790
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: come true. Going through the whole pre draft process, you know,

791
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: it was documented that you you're flying all over the

792
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: place and everything like that. What what stood out about

793
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: coming here and and maybe thinking that you might end

794
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: up here for for good? I would say that, well,

795
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: the style of their the offense the Browns have, and uh,

796
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I think I fit that bill pretty well. And then

797
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: I just I really enjoyed my visit here overall. I

798
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: just really enjoyed the people I got to meet, and uh,

799
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: I enjoyed Cleveland. So that's they kind of kept their

800
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: cards pretty close to the vest, so it was hard

801
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: to tell. Now for you, you went from an off

802
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: the radar kind of guy to now sports illustraightage writing

803
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: about you and everything like that. Will always that whole

804
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: process and how many people are calling your prospect X

805
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: these days? There there's a few from every some people

806
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: back in Cape Girardo or Southeast Missouri state is that

807
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: kind of was floating around. But anyway, like I did

808
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: not expect that whatsoever. My agent called me one day,

809
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, do you want to do this? And

810
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you don't turn that down down right?

811
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, me and my wife love that they

812
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: got to share our story and share what uh the

813
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: process looks like for a young married couple going through this,

814
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: and what's it been like for the teammates your old

815
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: teammates back in Southeast Missouri state, and what's it means

816
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: for the for the program to see someone like you

817
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: kind of have the rise you did. I think they

818
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: see that they could do the same thing. Like I

819
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: think that there's people people in that program that have

820
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: a lot of talent and a lot of drive that

821
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: maybe overlooked like I was, And I think they can

822
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: do the same exact thing. You're kind of described as

823
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: like a late bloomer. I guess at your position, what

824
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 1: would you attribute that to? And when did baby things

825
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: start to click for you? I don't genetics, I'm not sure,

826
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: but no, I think I uh also was able to

827
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: mature more and take the game more seriously as I

828
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: got older. But and then in college I just started

829
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: growing so much each year as far as as a person,

830
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: as an and as a player, how big are you

831
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: when you got there? And how big are you now?

832
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: How how much have you changing size? But like my

833
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: I was like three tens six five and now I'm

834
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 1: three oh five six five. But I went my body

835
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: comps dropped like body fat. So that's kinda And when

836
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: did you what point in your career did you maybe

837
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: realize that this was a possibility, the NFL was a

838
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: was a possibility for you. I had a coach tell

839
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: me that my freshman year of college is like, if

840
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: you want to come here, you can, and I thought

841
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: he was just trying to recruit me, and and that

842
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: probably was the case. I'm not sure though. And then uh,

843
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: after things started clicking my sophomore year, uh, some of

844
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: my coaches said, hey, if you really want to do

845
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: something like special, like this is what it's gonna take.

846
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: And they really helped guide me to where I'm at today.

847
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: And then what what's maybe the not maybe that the advice,

848
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: but but the key for a guy in at a

849
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: smaller school to to stand out. What would you say

850
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: helped you stand out to these teams? I think some

851
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: really uh quality like pro day numbers because I did well,

852
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: I didn't get the combine invite, but uh, just going

853
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: out on pro day and showing like what you the hone,

854
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: the skills you've honed, and uh, what you're capable of athletically.

855
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: What kind of training did you go through? Was just

856
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: back at school or did you go to a personal trainer?

857
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Rate there? With that performance in Nashville, Tennessee. Jordan Lewellen

858
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: was my trainer down there. They did a good job.

859
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: Brad Hopkins was my O line coach, and then I

860
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: also got to learn from Dan Connolly uh D one

861
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: in St. Louis e own is one of those up there,

862
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: and he taught me the interior positions, which was a

863
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: huge help change the like the game for me. You know,

864
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: it's been mentioned here you're going to get a shot

865
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: at at playing that tackle position before maybe switching to

866
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: interior possible. What do you like that that you're gonna

867
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: get a shot at tackle or what do you think

868
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: of that? Oh? I was very excited that I get

869
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: that opportunity, any opportunity the Browns organization is willing to

870
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: give me. Well, like, I'm gonna take it full on

871
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: and uh do it to the best of my ability.

872
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: And what's it mean to come to a team where

873
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: you've got a couple of guys who made that transition,

874
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: if if possible, Jolbitonio Austin Corbet, I mean, what what

875
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: does it mean to to be around those kind of guys.

876
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to get to learn from them, Like

877
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: there's some of the best in the in the business,

878
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: so uh and they've also done something that I there's

879
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: a high likelihood I'll get to do or get to

880
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: try the opportunity to do, and I think they'll be

881
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: great leaders and good coaches. You mentioned the fit here,

882
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: what what what kind of go into detail about what

883
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: what about the fit works for you here? When uh,

884
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: like we met with the coaches and met with the

885
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: strength and training staff, and uh, there was just there

886
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: was kind of a different feel to each organization and

887
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to explain, but when I got to

888
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: the Browns, that felt like there was there was a

889
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: home like here for me and I'm really happy that

890
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: they they brought me up here and gave me this opportunity.

891
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: You know, the thing that was mentioned in the story

892
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: and it's been clear on tape, but you you play

893
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: with like a mean streak do you do you know

894
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: where you get that from? I mean, where, what? What?

895
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: What kind of separates you in that regard? I just

896
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: I said earlier it was like my sophomore year of football.

897
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: I was like the fear of failure and not wanting

898
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: to look like the guy on his back on the field.

899
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: So I know they're trying to do that to me,

900
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: and I'd rather be them than myself who's getting pushed around.

901
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: But at this league, it's going to be a whole different,

902
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: whole different world. When you look back here at college time,

903
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: do you remember maybe your toughest competition or who who

904
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: maybe stands are? Did you guys even play any money

905
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: games or anything like that? Yeah, for sure, maybe not

906
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: a money game situation. But my first live rep had

907
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: my helmet ripped off and my nose was bloodied, and

908
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: it was like, wow, welcome to college football, and it

909
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: I kind of got addicted to it after that, you

910
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I would say that was

911
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: just eye opening moment of Hey, this is what it

912
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 1: takes to play at this level. What's your feelings about?

913
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe in a couple of weeks or maybe

914
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: a month, you could be lined up across from Miles

915
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: Garrett guys like that. I mean, what what do you

916
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: think about that kind of level of competition. I'm really

917
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: focusing on what I can control and what I can

918
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: do now. And I think the coaching staff here is

919
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: gonna be in the group of guys they brought in.

920
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: Then the guys who are already here are gonna help

921
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: everybody to get better, to work on the offensive unit.

922
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: And I'm just looking forward to see that product that

923
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: we're able to put on the field. And how much

924
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: of a leg up do you have that the fact

925
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: that they brought you in for a thirty visit, you

926
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: got kind of a sneak peek of what to expect offensively,

927
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: I got they, like I said, they held it pretty close.

928
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: They showed me maybe his own play, but they were like,

929
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: that's that's what you get. But no, I uh it was.

930
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: It was really neat to get to see this community

931
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: and how much they love football. What do you know

932
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: about the Browns before the whole process even started, That

933
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is one of the meanest dudes on the field,

934
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: and that they have, uh like a great organization. And

935
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: I got to is that Jim Brown yesterday I was like,

936
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I got to see him. I always

937
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. You

938
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: mentioned Joe Thomas, So he's a guy you watched all

939
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: throughout your childhood. Uh, not childhood more once I got

940
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: to college because I was the Rams had left St.

941
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: Louis US, and then I was like more in the

942
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: college game at that point. But now I started looking

943
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: to uh towards him as like, well, when they do

944
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: the top one hundred, he's up there every single time,

945
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: And I'd kind of scan through those lists and see

946
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: what film I could see on those guys from uh

947
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: that perspective. You got a month here where you're going

948
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: through O, T, A S in the mini camp, and

949
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: then you've got kind of a big chunk of time

950
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: that on your own before training camp. What what what

951
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: are your plans for that period and to get yourself

952
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: ready for training camp. I just mentally prepare every day

953
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: and act like well, every rep does matter, and look

954
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: at myself in the morning every more and tell myself this, Uh,

955
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: there's a huge opportunity in front of you. You have

956
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: to go take it. Drew Forbes a guy that definitely

957
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: is settled down in his personal life, knows what he wants,

958
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: knows where he wants to get to. The question is

959
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: does he have the talent to do so? Yeah, that's

960
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: the big question. Well, it certainly. I mean when you

961
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: watch film of him, he really he is nasty. Like

962
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: on the field, he doesn't stop moving, usually a couple

963
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: of seconds to the whistle. He makes sure everything's taken

964
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: care of, even after content, after after everything's done. Uh.

965
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: And it it's just gonna be interesting to see how

966
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: he handles the everyday grind of lining up against NFL

967
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: talent day in day out, and really kind of maybe

968
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: how he processes the NFL offenses and how he adapts.

969
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: And I think that there's just a lot to work with,

970
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: a lot to like. And that's clearly why they targeted

971
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: this guy. Uh and he's in another year, a six

972
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: round pick on this team would have had a lock

973
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: spot on the roster. Now it's just there's not it's

974
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be better, if not maybe equal

975
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: to some of these veterans that were signed in the

976
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: off season to get one of those kind of three

977
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: backup spots that you maybe carry on on a fifty

978
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: three man roster, I take a look at him. The

979
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: other thing that worries me about guys drafted late is

980
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: getting the rep times. Yeah, I mean, god forbid, you

981
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: get hurt and training camp, then you're really I mean,

982
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: you become a project and you and your reps are

983
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: virtually nothing once the season starts. But I mean, getting

984
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: this guy some reps. He's gonna have to show something

985
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: right off the bat to even get a lot of reps,

986
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: because I mean, we know what the roster is going

987
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: to be for the most part, So getting these guys

988
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: second team, third team preseason games, Okay, fine, he's gonna

989
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: play a little bit, but you know, those reps, especially

990
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: after preseason game number two, you know, I mean that

991
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: fourth preseason game. Okay, he's gonna get some time, but

992
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: you know that week we're in Indianapolis, and then when

993
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: we go to Tampa on the quick turnaround, you're really

994
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna be hard pressed to find the reps if you're

995
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: not showing something earlier. And I wonder almost what is

996
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: better for his chances. Is it if he shows he's

997
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: good enough at left tackle, or is it if he

998
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: takes the guard route. I don't know which one is. Better.

999
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: I would imagine the surest path is if he really

1000
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: proves competent at left tackle and then all of a

1001
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: sudden you've got a competition between him and Desmond Harrison,

1002
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: or a competition between him Candle Lamb, Chris Hubbard, all

1003
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: all those guys. I mean, that's that that maybe is

1004
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: the best case scenario for him. But even then he

1005
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: can move to guard and then compete with kush Witzman,

1006
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, those guys for for some of those reserve spots.

1007
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: But ultimately I don't I don't imagine he's gonna pick

1008
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: up snapping the ball in one season. So he doesn't

1009
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: have that uh skill set there yet. So it's it's

1010
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: interesting on the offensive line when you're not a starter,

1011
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: it's the more you can do, that's that's ultimately what's

1012
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: gonna get you on the team. Our final player in

1013
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Our Meet the Rookies, Best podcast available Jamie Gillen, little

1014
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Scottish Hammer, as we like to call him. One heck

1015
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: of an interesting interview that you had with him. He's scout,

1016
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: he's he's been some places, yeah, and it's really interesting,

1017
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: Like there's so many layers to what makes him just

1018
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: a unique prospect I mean, first's like his family life

1019
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: and stats in the Royle Air Force. He's moved all around,

1020
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: and then he moved to America, went to John Dorsey's

1021
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: High school UH in Maryland, and then it looked like

1022
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: he was going to play rugby in America for a

1023
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: little bit and worked with some club teams. Didn't qualify

1024
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: for the US team because he hadn't been a citizen

1025
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: long enough. Just all sorts of weird journeys and all

1026
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden he picks up football and then starts

1027
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: getting an offer, but and then I don't The one

1028
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: underappreciated part of his story is that he went to

1029
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Arkansas Pine Bluff, which is a I could not be

1030
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: any different more different from scholar. Like I was just saying, like,

1031
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: there's there's parts of America that maybe can make it

1032
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: and you know, a smoother transition. But you know, this

1033
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: guy went to Arkansas Pine Bluff and handled the punning

1034
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: in kicking for them. That's why one thing we noticed

1035
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: at Rock Communicant, they were really working him at holding

1036
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: like that, and I was, I know there was some

1037
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: misfield goals and I wondered, I was, like, I know

1038
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: the kicker missed it, But how much did it have

1039
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: to do with a guy who hadn't held a football

1040
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: and for maybe twenty four is long snap that maybe

1041
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: isn't used to being a long snapper or whatever the

1042
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: case might be. It looked a little rough. I watched

1043
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: that he really was learning because he was the kicker.

1044
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's the He was much better at punning

1045
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: than kicking. But uh, it is interesting to kind of

1046
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: see how he operates. But this is a big guy.

1047
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if that has made clear with the

1048
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: picture in there. This is someone who can legitimately play rugby.

1049
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: Like this isn't your standard punter looking guy. I mean

1050
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: he's he's not big enough to like really be a

1051
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: football player at any other position. But this is someone

1052
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: who you look at like, wow, that guy's in great shape.

1053
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Like this is someone who if he's out there needing

1054
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: to make a hit, he can he he wouldn't hesitate. Yeah,

1055
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: and I think everybody says, well we have Britain cole Qui. Again,

1056
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: it's all about the competition, and you've got to bring

1057
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: in competition not just for the kicker, not just for

1058
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: the punter, but for the long snapper. Freddie Kitchens has

1059
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: mandated the special teams must be better than they were

1060
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: a year ago, and Mike Preefer totally agrees. And I

1061
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of an investment there. I mean,

1062
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: this guy has been pre for has been on him

1063
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: for a few months now, and I think it is interesting.

1064
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: And I did. I was very taken aback by people

1065
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: wondering why you bring this guy in. I was like,

1066
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: last year, maybe I've been a big story. But the

1067
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: Browns brought in a kicker. Are brought in a punter

1068
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: who was a starter for the previous year for the

1069
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, and Justin Vogel. I mean, this is

1070
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: what you do. And I think that had had Vogel

1071
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: been better, uh than than cold Quote or even equal

1072
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: cold Quit went down for a little bit, Correc had

1073
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: a little injury, and you were like, but by the

1074
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: end of train camp was clear Colke was better. So

1075
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: you keep the better punter. But Vogel was a guy

1076
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: who punted in the league. I mean he was he

1077
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: was a guy from Miami and had was an accomplished,

1078
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: accomplished guy, albeit young in his career. I mean, this

1079
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: is what happens to tow punters and and and those

1080
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of specialty deals long snappers. Uh, this is why

1081
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: a few years ago you got Andy Leef for a

1082
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: six round pick because the Fodinard's drafted a guy and

1083
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: they wanted to make room and have a cheaper punter.

1084
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: You know. So there's there's just the reality and economics

1085
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: of football. So uh, if you find a guy, I

1086
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: mean there there's a legitimate then the guy's names is saying,

1087
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: is it Michael Dixon for Seattle, the rookie Hunter? That

1088
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: guy is a legitimate weapon. And if you struck gold

1089
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: with a guy like Jamie gill and all of a

1090
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: sudden that that kind of changes things. All right, Well,

1091
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: sit back and relax and enjoy this one. The Scottish

1092
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: Hammer Jamie Gillan sitting down with our Andrew Gribble. First off,

1093
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: it kind of walked me through the experience on how

1094
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you ended up here with the Cleveland Browns. It's just

1095
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: an incredible experience to be here. I'm looking at all

1096
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: the facilities. It's just night and day compared to what

1097
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: I was used to in um college, you know. So

1098
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: it's just a dream come true really, just to be

1099
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: around great guys and great coaches and just get better.

1100
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: What was you maybe your first connection with you? I

1101
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: know you made a visit here, but what was your

1102
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: your first connection with the Browns? It was actually Mr

1103
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Prief for coming out to Pine Bluff to do private

1104
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: workout and I to come out to an Irish pub.

1105
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 1: We had some food together and we chatted for a while,

1106
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: and then we had a great deea of kicking the

1107
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: next day, so it was really fun. And then that

1108
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: after that we then went to an official visit and

1109
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: I met everybody. I had a great time then and

1110
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: then now I'm here now what what was maybe the

1111
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: draft weekend like for as a pointer. I don't know

1112
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: if you were expecting maybe to get drafted or how

1113
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: did that? What did you do that weekend? I just

1114
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: hung out with the family and I graduated from college,

1115
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: so I was done my classes, so we're celebrating that

1116
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: and just hoping that someone would just give me a

1117
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: shot coming to camp or anything and end up signing

1118
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agents. So that was awesome going

1119
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: back and how you ended up even coming to America.

1120
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: What was what walked me through your journey? They kind

1121
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: of got you here. So I came from boarding school,

1122
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: I let boardings go out to southern Maryland because my

1123
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: dad's in the Royal Air Force, and I picked up

1124
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: football about five games into the season, played half a

1125
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: season and then got a scholarship through a Facebook post

1126
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: because of one of my really good friends, Trent. He

1127
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: put through my highlight filming there and they offered me

1128
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: a full scholarship. So I punted, kicked, and kicked off

1129
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: for Pine Bluff for four years and had a good

1130
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: time and now in the position I am now. So

1131
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: it's just incredible. What was the biggest change for your

1132
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: moving from overseas to to America? The honestly, the size

1133
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: of everything, everything, the houses, the size of the trucks.

1134
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: You'd never get away with the truck like you know

1135
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: on four f from fifty and anything like that. It's

1136
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: just awesome. So the size of the meals that you get,

1137
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: you know, everything, it's just crazy. But it's good time though.

1138
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: In your background is in rugby, right, oh yeah, what

1139
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: what how did you get into as a kid and

1140
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: it was that something you were really good at or

1141
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: how did you how was that before he came to America.

1142
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: So I've been playing rugby since I was five years old.

1143
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: My dad. I used to watch my dad play rugby

1144
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: all the time, and then I played all the way

1145
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: up until when I was twelve years old. I got

1146
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: a full sports scholarship to boarding school, so I went

1147
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: there and we won a national championship together. I played

1148
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: fly half, which is essentially the quarterback of the rugby team,

1149
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: and being a fly half you have to have kicking

1150
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: skills too, so I just transferred my kicking skills from

1151
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: rugby to the football side and it worked out pretty well.

1152
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: Did you know you went to John Dorsey's high school? Yep,

1153
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: And that was the first thing we talked about with

1154
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: Mr Dorsey so school that he's he knows a lot

1155
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: of people I worked for actually in the county, so

1156
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: especially Mr Cryer. I used to help out with his

1157
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: baseball field and painting and decorating it, and to help

1158
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: out at his bar and stuff. So everybody heard I

1159
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: was coming here was like, Oh, you're gonna meet Mr Dorsey.

1160
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't wait. You know, it's one

1161
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: thing to go from Scotland to to Maryland, but then

1162
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: to then go from Maryland Arkansas pintball that's a that's

1163
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: a completely different environment as well. What was that like

1164
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: for you, that was a huge culture shop. But I've

1165
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: moved out so many times with my dad being in

1166
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: the military that meeting new people have never been a

1167
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: hard thing. So I was just extremely blessed to have

1168
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: the opportunity to play college football and then also on

1169
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: the full scholarship as well. So I've got a four

1170
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: year degree for free. You'd never get that in Scotland.

1171
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: I got free food, free housing, free weight room, everything.

1172
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: So it was an awesome experience and everybody was super

1173
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: inviting when I got there, and I've got, you know,

1174
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: some best friends for life from that school. How long

1175
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: did it take you to fall in love with kicking

1176
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: and punting and for American football instantly? Because I've loved

1177
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: kicking and punting a rugby ball. So as soon as

1178
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: I knew I had a little, you know, gear for

1179
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: kicking football, I knew I was gonna love it. So

1180
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: any party you missed the contact though, yeah, I really

1181
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: miss hitting people and stuff so well. In rugby is

1182
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: such a contact game and everybody who knows me and

1183
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: play with me, I love tackle and I love hitting people, uh,

1184
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: creating the essence around in the in the game and stuff.

1185
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: So and I like being able to size that people

1186
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: and you know, just being in the mix of the game.

1187
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: But I understand that's not That's not where I'm in

1188
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: my life right now. I've got I can play. My

1189
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: dad's forty seven years old and he still plays rugby,

1190
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: so I've still got time to play. You know, when

1191
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: did you realize that the NFL was maybe a realistic

1192
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: possibility for uh? Probably after Coach Honors kicking combine. When

1193
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: I went there, I've never really gone against anybody. I

1194
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: just was doing really well on the conference. But you

1195
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: know how that goes. It doesn't matter how you're doing

1196
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: conferences about how you're doing in front of people and

1197
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: big time people. So when I was in front of

1198
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: some of the best in America and I won that competition,

1199
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I think I got a good

1200
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: shot at this now. And then having a really good

1201
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: time Mr Preefer and the forty nine years, and then

1202
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of teams calling me after that, I was like, okay,

1203
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: this actually might be an option for me. Now. When

1204
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: was that in your process? That was so right after

1205
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: the pro day, I did the vertical bench and everything,

1206
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: and then I kicked in front of fifteen NFL teams

1207
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: and after that, I probably had about twenty teams called

1208
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: me before the draft. So and then obviously Mr Preefer

1209
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: and Mr Kawen from Fortnighter's coming out to uh do

1210
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: a private workout, and then all kind of went from there.

1211
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: What do you know about the NFL before you moved here? Nothing?

1212
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: Do you know any of the teams or anything like that?

1213
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I really didn't. I knew. I knew

1214
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: about the Green Bay Packers because my friend loved the

1215
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. In Scotland, it was it was just rugby, rugby,

1216
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: rugby for me all in Scotland. You know, I didn't

1217
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: even pay attention to soccer. I just like to play

1218
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: with my friends. Have you ever been to an NFL

1219
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: game yet? I have. I've been to a preseason game

1220
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: with my My neighbors are a huge Philadelphia Eagles fans,

1221
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: so they brought me to a preseason game that was incredible.

1222
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: So where did the nickname Scottish Hammer come from? Okay,

1223
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: that came from my first high school coach. He knows

1224
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: from Scotland and the song and kick a couple of

1225
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: footballs and he was like, yep, I'm going to call

1226
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: you the Scottish Hammer. And he made me do all

1227
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: three duties there and I kind of swept that one

1228
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: under the rug a little bit going into um, you know,

1229
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: the into college and they called me Golden till at

1230
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: college and then somehow Scottish Hammer got unraveled again, so

1231
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: I was back getting girl Scottish Hammer. So it's fun.

1232
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: What's the mindset for you entering you know, it's obviously

1233
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a competition here between you and Britain coal quit?

1234
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: What what? What? What mindset do you take into to

1235
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: a situation like this to learn to learn from him?

1236
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: He's he's going into his tenth year and obviously he's

1237
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: an incredible puntner of being ten years in the NFL,

1238
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: So learn from him, learn from Mr Preefer, and continue

1239
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: to better myself, you know. And I understand I've got

1240
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: a good leg and I've I'm down to enough to

1241
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: be in this position now. Now it's just grafting and

1242
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: the consistency and getting better with my team, you know,

1243
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: or the not my team, the team. You know, I'm

1244
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: jelling in with the team perfectly. And where do you

1245
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: go after? Can you know you had a month here

1246
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: where you're gonna go through a t as in minicamp.

1247
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: But where do you go after that before you come

1248
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: back for training camp. Uh? If I've got a good

1249
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: amount of time, I'd love to go home. I haven't

1250
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: been home to Scotland about four years now, so I'd

1251
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: love to go home and see my extended family and

1252
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: my friends. I'm sure they'd like to see me too,

1253
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: and then take you know, take two weeks out to

1254
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: go and see it and then come back and get

1255
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: right back into working out and getting better. What what

1256
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: is your extended family think of what's gone on with

1257
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: you here so far? They really surprised. Uh, they all

1258
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: thought I was going to take the rugby route. But

1259
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: they're really happy for me, and they're super excited because

1260
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: it's just for all my butters back home and my family.

1261
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: They just think gets incredible what I'm doing right now.

1262
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: So did you ever play any rugby when you got

1263
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: over here? Yeah? Yeah, I played. I played for the

1264
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: State of Maryland, we played a few other states. I

1265
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: played in the Stars and Stripes USA game. Um, I

1266
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: wasn't able to play for the USA at my age

1267
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: level because I only lived here two years. I was

1268
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna go to a couple of colleges maybe for rugby,

1269
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: but then right at that peak time was when I

1270
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: transferred into the football and that's when the scholarship and

1271
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: stuff started coming in there. So is it a rule

1272
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: you can't do any rugby for fund now while you're

1273
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: with the NFL? Or how's that go? Uh? We'll find out.

1274
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Speaker 1: We'll find out, you know, because with you know, my

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00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: contract would because of my leg and you wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to hurt that, you know. But we'll see how it

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Speaker 1: goes down the line. You know that rugby can wait.

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Speaker 1: I'll keep working out hard in the in the gym

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Speaker 1: and the conditioning, and I'll just roll right back into

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Speaker 1: it if I can. The biggest takeaway from Jamie Gillan's

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00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: interview I've been telling multiple people around the office throughout

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Speaker 1: the week he is our number one candidate for Browns

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00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: that could also be on Game of Thrones. Like he

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00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: has the accent, the hair, the look. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: if you got up out to practice and and someone's like, hey,

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: there's a Scottish guy in this team, find him for me.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy. You're your your your local without here,

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00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: ye without here, even this is he, But he's he's

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00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: such an interesting guy and like just to win. You

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: hear him talk, you kind of get mesmerized by the

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00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: accent and you just, Uh, he's confident, but he I

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00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: think he acknowledges that this is a pretty new game

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00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: for him. It's not just a new environment in the NFL.

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00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: This is a relatively new game that he is playing

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00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: in his life. And he's really was a rugby player first,

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00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: and but now I think he he chose the path

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Speaker 1: where he knows that this is the path to to

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Speaker 1: potentially having a great career. Uh. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he likes the nickname or not. I think he

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Speaker 1: just kind of got that by accident, but it's what

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00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be known by, especially if he ends

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00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: up making this team another nickname no matter what that

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: you will be, he will be stuck with. Yeah, with

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00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: the veterans on this football team. Uh. To be sure,

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Speaker 1: is there anybody else that really stood out? You mentioned

1306
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: the one gentleman that got signed by the Browns here

1307
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: after rookie minicamp, But is there anything that else that

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: stood out to you player wise? Development wise? Because this

1309
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: is a new coaching staff and I think we lose

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00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: sight of that because Freddie was here a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and there are a couple of coaches that are still here.

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Speaker 1: But you know, for the most part, it's a new

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff that's breaking it. Less in terms of individual players,

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: but more in terms of the decisions that were made

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Speaker 1: and signing some of these undrafted free agents. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was interesting that you signed multiple centers, and they're

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00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: just centers. They're guys that played center in college. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. It just tells you what they

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Speaker 1: think of the current roster construction. Also thought it was

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Speaker 1: interesting that they did not draft or sign any defensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was an area that you might want

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00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: to add a body or two. But it also might

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00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: show that they feel pretty good about some of these

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Speaker 1: guys that they're bringing back. I think, beyond Sheldon Richardson

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Speaker 1: UH and Larry Yogan Job, you've got guys like Brian

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Speaker 1: Price that they feel good about you signed, even though

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Speaker 1: he didn't play really much at all est year. You

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00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: brought back Carl Davis Uh to this team, so you've

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00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: got some options at those defensive tackles. Another guy that

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Speaker 1: really has been overlooked as danielie Quality, who made It's

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00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: it's very rare when this happens, but he went wire

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00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: to wire on the practice squad last year all the

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00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 1: way to the season. So someone there clearly they see

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00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: something in or they would have moved on by this point.

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Speaker 1: Someone else that can be competing for one of those

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Speaker 1: final defensive tackle spots also could be an indication of

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do defensively, where you're gonna have a

1338
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: lot of situations where you might only have one defensive

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00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: tackle on the field at time. Alright, Stage three of

1340
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Speaker 1: O T a S starts next week. That'll take us

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Speaker 1: right into mandatory minicamp the first week in June, and

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Speaker 1: that'll be an eye opening experience for these rookies. Now,

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00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: the rookies will they'll end up staying around here for

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Speaker 1: another week or two. After that, the veterans get to

1345
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: go on summer vacation. The rookies will be here, then

1346
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Speaker 1: they leave, and then they come back a week or

1347
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: two prior to training camp and it all starts for real. Yeah,

1348
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: that's when that's when we'll really see who stands out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's we can all watch Ricky minicamp,

1350
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: but I think we've got it figured out, but it

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: might change in her year. It is amazing to see

1352
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: how far we've come going back to something you brought

1353
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: up earlier. You know, we always used to talk about

1354
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: sixth round and seventh round picks and where are they

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00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: going to fit on the depth chart? No, this one

1356
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: might have a chance to start in this one. I mean,

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00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about guys that got drafted that might not

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01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: make the team, much less even the practice squad. Yeah,

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: I think that two thousand and sixteen and I think

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01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen draft class all made the team, uh,

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01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: coming right off from from the draft, and it made sense.

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01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: And it was like complete shock and craziness in fifteen

1363
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: when you cut a fourth round wide receiver, but everyone

1364
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: else made the team. So it's just a different roster,

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: set up, different scenario. And you know, even though it's

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01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: only seven picks, a relatively note low number for this team,

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: it'd be a stunner of all seven made the team.

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01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: And I think it'd be even a surprise if six

1369
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: made the team. I think it's gonna be tough. It's

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Speaker 1: it's just that the numbers aren't they're like they used

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Speaker 1: to be and that means you're good. Yeah, so welcome

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Speaker 1: to being relevant, Gribbs. All pleasure is always my friend.

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Speaker 1: For Gribbs, I'm Gibbs. Thanks to Greedy Williams, thanks to

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Speaker 1: Sheldrick RedWine, thanks to Drew Forbes, and thanks to Jamie Gillett.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you download this podcast, and if you missed

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01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: any of the other episodes leading up to the draft

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Speaker 1: and following the draft, including our draft recap from Land

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Speaker 1: next week, you can do so long on Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: been episode twelve of the best podcast available