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Speaker 1: Revere Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion.

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring.

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Speaker 3: To this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey, Happy Monday to you. It's

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Speaker 1: the twenty third of January twenty twenty three. It's one

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Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty three. What a wonderful, wonderful day. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what that means. I'm just saying things. It's also,

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Speaker 1: by the way, episode four hundred of Your Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I am one half of your hosting duo. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I from the capital of Estados Anitos

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Speaker 1: right here in Washington, DZ. Joined by the King of Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: He's just he's talking about how many lunch ladies he's

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Speaker 1: banged in his life by holding up the forefinger sign

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Speaker 1: it's my friend and yours it's Brian.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, of course this was this was for four hundred.

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Speaker 2: I mean this snuck up on us. I think we

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Speaker 2: texted each other last night. It is like, holy crap,

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Speaker 2: is if episode four hundred tomorrow? I mean, what are

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Speaker 2: we gonna do for our people? How about nothing but

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Speaker 2: give you your award winning great content like we normally do. Okay,

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Speaker 2: how about that? But wow, thank you to everybody who

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Speaker 2: has been along with us on this crazy journey from

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Speaker 2: the bomb shelter to London, England. I mean, what a wow,

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Speaker 2: What a time to be alive, What a time to

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Speaker 2: m fricking k luke? Yeah, baby, Wow? Do you about

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Speaker 2: our new merch too? Looks awmous you here about that?

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Speaker 1: We should? We got some new merch going up on

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Speaker 1: the site. I think now we got a couple things

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Speaker 1: and they're rearranging some stuff last minute, but we have

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Speaker 1: some merch like in honor of our UK visit basically

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Speaker 1: up on the site right now, so you can get

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Speaker 1: to Morning Coombat dot store. And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: don't know nothing's confirmed, but peaks people have been asking,

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Speaker 1: the UK. I don't have a confirmed one, yes, but

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Speaker 1: out a plan of how that could be possible and

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Speaker 1: so what we'll do. So it was looking pretty good,

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Speaker 1: is what I would say. BC.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's fantastic. Yes, So you get your MK and

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Speaker 2: the UK Union Jack shirt on there also a brand

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Speaker 2: new one MK GTA that you're gonna have to check

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Speaker 2: out at Morning Coombat dot store. That may be one

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Speaker 2: of our finest todate from RJ Ballbagger over there and

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Speaker 2: in New Jersey there, but a big part of our team.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to that man, Big Ray. Just the same,

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Speaker 2: oh looke, you know, I feel I just I just

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Speaker 2: was a really entertaining pay per view in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. YEP, A lot to talk about, both

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Speaker 2: good and bad. What are you wearing an MK hoodie there?

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Speaker 2: It looks like you have like one?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if you trying to Coscolay as a

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Speaker 1: No. You know, I normally come in every day exhausted,

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Speaker 2: Understand that that's America's dad right there. Luke Thomas Stock

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Speaker 1: How was showbox on Friday. I gotta say I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna look at that on have you seen

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Speaker 2: I mentioned on Friday six unbeating fighters on the triple header,

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Speaker 1: our partner, ag One. I have it all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's great for many reasons. BC. What's the best reason

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you know, I can be bought easily with

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Speaker 1: You're lifting weights these days? What are you lifting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, my doctor believes if I can, you know,

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Speaker 1: Right, He's right. Resistance training does all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, complimenting that with AG one I

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Speaker 2: it and how many times everyone in my house has

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Speaker 1: They really are, by the way, lifestyle friendly, whether we keto, Paleo, vegan,

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Speaker 1: How can folks get what we're giving them? Where can

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Speaker 2: Luke Immune supporting. I put it in my AG one

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Speaker 2: It starts right here with Athletic Greens. Who knows what

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Speaker 1: With that in mind, let's get the party started here

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Speaker 1: Jamal Hill defeated Glover to Shia fifty forty four on

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Speaker 1: good shots all night and couldn't do it. Great shots.

429
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Speaker 1: Great tells you.

430
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Speaker 2: A lot, No, it really does. And Jamal Hill can bang,

431
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Speaker 2: which we already knew. But you know, some of that

432
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 2: is I mean, what you know, how do you define

433
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 2: what makes a chin like? Some of it is? You know,

434
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 2: I believe it's sort of already there has to be

435
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 2: there in the beginning, A toughness level, a want. But

436
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 2: it was that focus like glover head likes insane level

437
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 2: focus mixed with the confidence the toughness. But you know,

438
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 2: we had him on our room Service Diaries couch and

439
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 2: hearing the story of like how he got to the

440
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 2: US from from Brazil and how dangerous that was. It's like,

441
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 2: you know, and Ganu's one of these just special people.

442
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: Glover to share is one of these special people. So

443
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 2: in the end he ends up retiring after an insanely

444
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: amazing performance and let's just remind you full him mount

445
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: in round five, like could have turned that thing around

446
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: in some wacky way, but he leaves on the same

447
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 2: night that Shogun Hua does that. Jose Aldo breaks down

448
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: to tears when he gets the Hall of Fame nod

449
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: like in that regard, Luke, I love that because Glover's

450
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: so understated, and you know, he came to the title

451
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 2: late in his career, almost like a Michael Bisping type

452
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: situation where we're not we don't tend to put him

453
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 2: head to head with big nog Jose Aldo Anderson Silva,

454
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, Vonderlay, whatever your Brazilian heroes are. But winning

455
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: the championship, having the reputation he has, and now closing

456
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 2: his career with this twilight of just insane action and

457
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 2: and you know, he's in all of these fights like

458
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: he belongs with those guys at the end of the day,

459
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe the accomplishments he's just short or

460
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: you know, he's not as charismatic a lot of these guys,

461
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 2: but it's the same They're cut from the same cloth, Luke.

462
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, the Brazilian fighters have such a great history

463
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: of just being special warriors, and damn, I was happy

464
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 2: that this happened in Rio because Culver hadn't fought in

465
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: Brazil since twenty fourteen, So it was just kind of

466
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: a perfect storm in that regard.

467
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Speaker 1: One more noble because this is mostly about the the

468
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Speaker 1: victory of Jamal Hill. Two parts to one. Who do

469
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Speaker 1: you I mean, I realize it's very fresh, but who

470
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Speaker 1: would you like to see him fight next? Does the

471
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Speaker 1: magamed on Calia fight make the most sense? That's part one.

472
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Speaker 1: Part two of that BC is you know, there are

473
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Speaker 1: some questions about how much the fans have fully taken

474
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Speaker 1: to Jamal Hill, right because he can.

475
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Speaker 2: There are two separate topics, Luke, let's break these up.

476
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Speaker 1: This is all right, sorry, So for first things first,

477
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Speaker 1: does the Maga met on Calia fight make the most sense?

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know, because you know, we all not want

479
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: to see him against Yurray Perhotska, who we all thought

480
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: Luke was going to be out at least a year, right,

481
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Speaker 2: and now you're hearing rumors from Year's camp that he's

482
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: like in Jamal Hill references it that he you know,

483
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Speaker 2: he may be able to come back as early as

484
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Speaker 2: six months now. Look, i'd want forts goin to take

485
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: his time. Although we have seen Tony Ferguson rush to

486
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: turn around John Cena on the Pro Wrestling world comes

487
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: back at insane level turnarounds. I mean, maybe there's some

488
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: PDEs involved in that. Don't look at me, but I

489
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: would like it on Calia from a competition standpoint, because

490
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Speaker 2: short of outside of Perhotsco, who's injured not come back

491
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 2: right now. I think that Caliath probably the best light

492
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: heavyweight in the world, but didn't show that fully against Jan.

493
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Speaker 2: Didn't seize the moment and you know, needs to go

494
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Speaker 2: in there and do it again somebody like Jamal Hill.

495
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Speaker 2: But the reason why I say I'm not sure, Luke,

496
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Speaker 2: is what do you do about Jan Blohovich. It's like,

497
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: whose fault was it that that fight was a draw?

498
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: You know, he came out there and he you know,

499
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Speaker 2: he fought to a draw with Aunt Caliath. I mean,

500
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Speaker 2: it's like no one's going to sanction that as an

501
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: immediate rematch, but we kind of need to see who's

502
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Speaker 2: coming out of that. I guess you know it's been

503
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: done before. You didn't you come?

504
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Okamar gun to your head. Didn't you come

505
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Speaker 1: out of that being like okay on CALIAV should have

506
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Speaker 1: been yes.

507
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 2: But I can't. But I can't reward him with that,

508
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: even though if you asked me, who do you thought won?

509
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a draw. I thought uncle

510
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 2: I have won by a point. But to answer your question,

511
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't think you can reward a guy for that.

512
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: For you know, I don't think he put his uncle

513
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: ive put his best foot forward in the end. You know,

514
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: that's the criticism we have of him at times that

515
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: he can absolutely dominate, but it takes his time in

516
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: getting there. You can't take your time on the tidal

517
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: level in that type of scenario. But look, if they

518
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: go that way, I do have no problem with it,

519
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: and we do have a video to throw to. Did

520
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: you see the social media media post from one year

521
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: with Protzka, who heard his name being called after Jamal

522
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: Hill won when he said, look, you said you can

523
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: come back in six months, let's do it. Here's Prohotzka's response.

524
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Speaker 1: Congratulations, I'm coming.

525
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm coming.

526
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: That was that you on your wedding night talking to

527
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Speaker 1: you life.

528
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Okay, that's inappropriate there, that's inappropriate, Luke. Okay, wow,

529
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: but that man is aggressively coming, Luke. I mean seriously,

530
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: like could he script himself any better? First of all,

531
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: is like the perfect foreign movie villain, and then just

532
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: being ridiculously weird with the double down on the yeah

533
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: he's coming musing. I mean, look, are you okay with

534
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: that decision by UFC to just go Yeah, who cares

535
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: about the draw? A clas is probably better, let's do it.

536
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know what The division's a mess, Like, honestly,

537
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: someone tweeted me this. I forget who was Somebody had

538
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: like a funny, if not interesting, maybe even good idea

539
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: or a good thought, which was they kind of hoped

540
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: that Glover. This was pre fight, they hope that Glover

541
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: was going to win, right and then retire. Okay, so

542
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: you still have this problem, but then you could just

543
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: do something of like a mid a mini light heavyweight

544
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: tournament to like really sort this all out. Now. Obviously,

545
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill performing as well as he did kind of

546
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: takes that out of the equation, but it doesn't make

547
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: for obvious matchmaking. Here's my view, BC. This is my view.

548
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: Now if you pull up the rankings, I'm gonna get

549
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: to the to the secondary part of it. But the

550
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: first part is I think on Calive should be next.

551
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. I think on Calive should be next.

552
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: From there, the question is like, what do you do?

553
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: Yurie to me might be ready for the second or

554
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: third cour excuse me, third or fourth quarter of the

555
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: of the year, so that's potentially on the back burner.

556
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: But if that's not in place, the he can fight.

557
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: The winner of that fight fights they Amblohovich, and then

558
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: after that see where Rakitch is because he has to

559
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: come back from injury against Prahatchka. That's the way you

560
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: could do that. Or Prohodchika can just wait in line,

561
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: but if he wants to get busy, he could take

562
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: on Rakich earlier than that, obviously, because he's gonna be

563
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: looking at a similar timeframe. Or you could just have

564
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Speaker 1: Parhatchka wait and then do Rakkich and Smith again to

565
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: see where both of those guys are, and then the

566
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: winner of that can move up. Where are you on

567
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: like any of those matchups? What's most important?

568
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Speaker 2: Uh, Ankliev would be most important Luke, because I think

569
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: he's shown over all the full he worked, that he

570
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: the best. I mean, when's rackets ready? Because he was hurt, right, he.

571
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: Was hurt as well. I'm not sure. I'm not sure

572
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: what his exact time. He hasn't taken a fight yet,

573
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: and I see I follow him on social media. He's

574
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: still kind of like getting back in good shape.

575
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: I guess here's the real question. I would ask you

576
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: how many names would you be okay with and wouldn't

577
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: complain at all in terms of like, hey, UFC, that's

578
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: too far down the rankings or whatever, Like if Anthony

579
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: Smith gets the next title shot, you okay with that?

580
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Well they were supposed to fight, but that of course

581
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: is now under very different circumstances. Uh yeah, I would

582
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: Smith is sitting at six, and you've got on Calive

583
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: and Blohovich ahead of him in the rankings, which I

584
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: realized they're coming off the draw, but still, and Rakis

585
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: is sitting at five. I don't really know his story.

586
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: Glover Smith, No, what are we talking about?

587
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: It? It has to be unkaliaver Blehovitch it would have

588
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: and I think on Calive personally, but but you know,

589
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: depending on how things go, I don't think Smith is

590
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: necessarily that far away. Okay. The last part of this

591
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: was about, like, listen, if you win a UFC title,

592
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: that's a really difficult, highly commendable thing to do. You know,

593
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who the person is. That's just extremely difficult

594
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: to do. And then to win it with frankly, not

595
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: a ton of MMA experience, and then to do it

596
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: so thoroughly against a very battle tested veteran in Glover

597
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: to share. I mean, these are all highly highly, highly

598
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: distinguished feats. Okay, but there is this question about how

599
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: much the fan base takes to him, in part because

600
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: of the uncertainty of the division and the other part

601
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: his BC he kind of expressed sympathy for Dana White

602
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: hitting his wife. I mean he didn't say it exactly

603
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: that way, but what he said was she hit him first,

604
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: so definitely hit her back. It's okay, like that, that's

605
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, deep. His argument was, no one should hit anyone,

606
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: but if she does hit, then you can I guess

607
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: retaliation under his rule is totally acceptable. He also seems

608
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: to be a big fan of Andrew Tait. This has

609
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: pissed off a lot of people. I wonder what you

610
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: make of any of that, and to what extent that

611
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: will impede any potential relationship with the fan base, or

612
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: perhaps not.

613
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: I think it will impede it. I mean, look, I

614
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: was surprised how many people tweeted out MMA media included.

615
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: And while it wouldn't have been my choice of a

616
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: move to do, you know, I get the spirit of

617
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: what the saying. They're like, oh, great fight and great performance.

618
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: But now we got a division with somebody you know,

619
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: on top who's got piece of shit views and they

620
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: share the tweets and you know, the tweets of his

621
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: of Jamal Hill's take on you know, domestic assault and

622
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: the hole she hit first thing and really doubling down

623
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: on that. Yeah, I didn't agree with that either. That

624
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: that's cringe to me. And look and and I guess

625
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: another part his celebration and look, you're really pulling, you know,

626
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: splitting hears here being critical. But he asked me, dude,

627
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: I got it. I almost got emotional when he got emotional,

628
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: because you know, I know how unheralded he was and

629
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: how people were you know, looking over him, and even me,

630
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: I was harping on you know, he got a number

631
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: seven guy when this weird situation fighting for a title,

632
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: which is why I was so happy he got the

633
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 2: chance to show over five runs how great he actually is.

634
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: But he went from very humble crying to what the

635
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: fuck a you're gonna say now? And obviously that can

636
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: add on and pull people the wrong way. I do

637
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: feel like he's in this weird spot where, you know,

638
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: could could great performances and knockouts just you know, quiet

639
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: this and win people over. It could. But I think

640
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: when we look at fighters and when they you know,

641
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: come out of nowhere sometimes and suddenly achieve greatness and

642
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: they're in they're a factor, They're a player in this

643
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: larger title or pay per view you know space that

644
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: we focus on, that we hyper focus on. We either

645
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: want them to be, you know, extreme babyfaces, or we

646
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: want them to be the kind of villains where it's

647
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: like they're strategically doing it to piss us off, and

648
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, it's like pro wrestling, you know, type of

649
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: scripting there. Well, people don't want a real villains. You know.

650
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to harp on that because it's not

651
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: that I don't think it's important. I think you know,

652
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: the views that he shared publicly or abhorrent and was

653
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: the complete wrong response to that the very public day

654
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: and a white situation. But I do think you have

655
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: to separate it from from the actual performance itself, Like, Okay,

656
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: you may not agree with his you know, attitude or

657
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: or things he said or behaviors, you know, who cares

658
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, compared to what he

659
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: does in the cage. I try to do that. I

660
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: try to do that in music, Luke, when you when

661
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: you you know, you may have somebody who who doesn't

662
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: always do things you like, but man, their art is

663
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: so great. I can separate the art from the artist

664
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: in that regard. But I do think from being beloved

665
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: and how that might translate into like him being a

666
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: ratings grabber. He could get there just by being who

667
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: he is, who's a smart action fighter who goes in

668
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: there and takes people out. But I wonder if he

669
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: might want to try to actually try to repair some

670
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: of these some of the ways people look at him

671
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: from some of those misgivings or relationships. Now, if he

672
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: doesn't care, I want him to come out and say that,

673
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: go ahead, be the you know, be the villain, tell

674
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: us you don't care, But I do think if he

675
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: doesn't say anything about this stuff, he may have some

676
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: trouble winning everybody over. But you got to ask yourself,

677
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: does that matter, Luke, because the more you're a villain,

678
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: the more people tend to tune in anyway. Not that

679
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: I think Jamal is I don't know.

680
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's been under.

681
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: Exposed from you know, interview wise where I don't truly

682
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: know who he is, you know what I mean besides

683
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: just the controversy or controversy there.

684
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's that. I mean, the full picture

685
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: of the guy. Neither you or I are have a

686
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: great one of it. That's the first thing i'd say.

687
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Second of all, you know, it's I try on fight

688
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: nights to make sure that I didn't bring it up

689
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: on the post fight show at all. Like I didn't

690
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: bring it up at one bit intentionally because the guy

691
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: just won the UFC light heavyweight title. It was about

692
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: fight nights, so let's keep it about fight nights. But

693
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: on Monday's MK, I want to reflect a little bit more.

694
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the dude's got views that I would consider

695
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: to be you know, a bare minimum questionable and probably

696
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: retrograde is a better way to describe it. But like,

697
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: here's what I want, And I honestly don't even know

698
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: the answer to this anymore BC I generally don't. The

699
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: more this seems to get a light shine on it

700
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: throughout the entire sport, not just among the fighter class,

701
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: but among other participants in the industry, the amount of

702
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: people who have absolutely insane views or completely backwards or

703
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: not keeping with the times, or otherwise morally deficient hashtag

704
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: people who hang out with Kadirov. You know, I don't

705
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: even know what to say anymore, like Jamal Hill relative

706
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: to people hang out with Cadirov, like that's not great,

707
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: But to me, it's not even nearly the same level

708
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: of problematic, such as that's a word behavior like it's

709
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: so you can't turn over a rock in this industry

710
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: and not find worms, like the entire forest is this way.

711
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: So I'm not in any way trying to dissuade people

712
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: if like what Jamal Hill said was bad at which

713
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: I completely disagree with every single part of it, and

714
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I find the idea that anyone could believe a single

715
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: word Andrew Tate it says convincing is like incomprehensible to me.

716
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, you know, take that into account, make that

717
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: a larger view of how you want to view it,

718
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: at least on fight night. You know, that's a really

719
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: difficult achievement that he had, and I thought that was

720
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: relevant to focus in that way.

721
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: And I think there's way way too much good to

722
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: focus on in this performance. And one other thing from

723
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: the performance, Luke, do you remember when Hill came out

724
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: It actually went back to the first face off. It

725
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: was in Ufcmbedded Episode one. Did you see that face

726
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: off they did outside the arena and it got like

727
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: really intense, Yes, and you know they hugged afterwards and

728
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: it was kind of just for the moment. But I

729
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: started watching Jamal Hill close throughout the week on how

730
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: he handled being in the spotlight. Look, how many times

731
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: do we see somebody who like they finally get that

732
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: title shot after being a contender for years And sometimes

733
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: you can see they don't look like they're comfortable here

734
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: and sometimes that doesn't matter. But he know, I looked

735
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: like he was comfortable.

736
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Dude.

737
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: Did you see walking into the cage waiting at the

738
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 2: door for Glover to get in and then staring at

739
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: him and pointing at him in that moment, you know,

740
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: I think our first thought was, holy shit, is this

741
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: a guy who's so nervous He's trying to show everybody

742
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: that he belongs and he doesn't believe it. I remember

743
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: in the moment thinking, no, I think it's actually the opposite.

744
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: His mental like focus and stance he took there. Dude,

745
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: that impressed me because it didn't look like bullshit, And

746
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: it turns out it wasn't, by the way, But I mean,

747
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: think of that, Who is this guy?

748
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Right?

749
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: Anyone that regularly buys pay per views but maybe doesn't

750
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: follow the sport weeks a week might not even know

751
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: who he is. Yet he walked down the scene, you know,

752
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: pointed out the toughest guy across and was like, you know,

753
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: it's not about bowing down to glover here, it's about

754
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm about to kick your ass. And seeing the performance afterwards,

755
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: it makes that moment looking back a lot cooler. And

756
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: I think a big part of what makes Jamal Hill

757
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: able to do what he just did was because he

758
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: is wired to, you know, in terms of self belief

759
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: in being able to stay cool, calm and poised and

760
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: deliver with that intensity like very few can, especially in

761
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: their you know, debuting pay per view moment there.

762
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to point out something. A lot

763
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: of times, like fighters will get assessed pre fight and

764
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: someone will note, oh, look how much confidence they have.

765
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: But to me, that usually is just a bullshit thing

766
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: people say to be nice to someone when they don't

767
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: have much else to say. But it wasn't the case here.

768
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: And to MEBC he had a very different kind of

769
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: confidence than he usually had. He looked a little bit

770
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: more assured of himself, a much more leaning into the

771
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: conflict itself. And to me, now having seen his performance

772
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: and understanding it, to me, they put in a lot

773
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: of homework around his very particular weaknesses. They leveled up

774
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: clearly in the gym, and he knew it. He knew

775
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: he had leveled up in the gym. He knew that

776
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: he had done the work necessary to put him in

777
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: a position to win, and he was very confident about

778
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: that growth. To me, when you focus on someone's confidence

779
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: like that, that's different. That's that's very acceptable, that's real.

780
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: I just don't like it half the time. Soone's like, yeah,

781
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: he's coming in with a lot of confidence. Get the

782
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: fuck out of here, the lazy ass analysis. But this

783
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: was real. This was a very much reflective of personal

784
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: growth that he couldn't wait to show, and sure enough

785
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: he showed it. All right, B. See, let's talk about

786
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: the comain event here. Excuse me, before we get to

787
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: the comin event. I apologize. Let me get this off

788
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: by screen before we get to the komain. Let's talk

789
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: about three Brazilian legends basically that were involved on fight night.

790
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: Number one, Jose Aldo goes into the Hall of Fame.

791
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: But more to the point, BC, let's start here. Glover

792
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: to Shera and Shogun Hua retire on the exact same night.

793
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Shogun Hua lost on the prelimbs rather badly. Glover to

794
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: Shara did not lose well. He lost badly in the

795
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: sense that he got beat up, but we show, you know,

796
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: a ton of resiliency through the whole thing. He didn't

797
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: look frail in that way. So BC, taking all that

798
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: into account, let's start first with Tashera and Hua. What

799
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: are their respective legacies in the sport?

800
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, they're certainly different and and you know, as

801
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: we talked about, a big part of Glover's success was

802
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: backloaded in that regard. But it's like, you know, these

803
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: are the it's a trope I keep reaching for lately,

804
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: but these are the last of the cowboys. Look, these

805
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: really are I mean, these are the guys. You know,

806
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 2: in Shogun's case, he actually came from that old era,

807
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: the prime pride run that he had that you know,

808
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: not only was he still around today, but as we talked,

809
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean he he somehow stayed relevant in his twilight.

810
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: It was it was ridiculous to the fact that these

811
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 2: guys are still around today and now going away. They

812
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 2: had to endure evolution, you know, years damage, all of that,

813
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: and at the end of the day, they are about

814
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: doing exactly what Glover did and I'm sure Showgun would

815
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: have tried to do if he didn't get stopped early.

816
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 2: Which just leave it, leve it, let it all hang out.

817
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: You talk about gameness, the whole idea of not being

818
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: overly worried on the on the cost, on the damage

819
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: it takes. I mean, look, there's people with great chins

820
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: in history or recuperative abilities, and then to me there's

821
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: the Brazilian legends and and you know, the chins don't

822
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: last forever and Shogun's been stopped a couple times in

823
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: recent years, but dude, it's just when you it's it's

824
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: the chin mixed with the attitude and the toughness and

825
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: the backstory. And you know, certain regions can identify themselves

826
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: in certain ways, and right now the folks from Daugistan

827
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: in that area are certainly doing that too. But man,

828
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: these guys are just bout it about it. I was

829
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: glad they got to go out together on the same

830
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: night in different ways. UFC's return to Brazil and you know,

831
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: first time in three years. There was just something pure

832
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: about it. And I think that's it. What's their legacy

833
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: outside of everything they both accomplished. Showgun I think a

834
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: little bit more than Glover, but you know who's who's

835
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: comparing notes here, It's always been that pure ability that like,

836
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: if you're paying money to see them, you know you're

837
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: gonna get the best of them. And they may walk

838
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 2: into to the buzzsaw like Showgun did against John Jones,

839
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 2: and that's just what happens in this game. But man,

840
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: are they bout about it. And to have the type

841
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: of longevity that they had, not just Showgun in totality,

842
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: but for Glover to actually figure out how to be

843
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: the best of himself in his you know, early on

844
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: set washed years that we're enduring right now, is is

845
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: that's a huge part of what made him great.

846
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, there'd be two different ones with Glover.

847
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if folks realize this. He

848
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: went on a twenty I mean, I'm sure some do obviously,

849
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: but just as a reminder anyway, he went on a

850
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: twenty fight win streak from two thousand and five to

851
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Twenty fights in a row. He won. He

852
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: didn't lose a single one in between them. That's not

853
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: just UFC. The fact a lot of that is not UFC.

854
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: But the point I'm trying to make is well, he

855
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: went two and two to start his career, and then

856
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: after that he went twenty two and two before he

857
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: met John Jones. An incredible achievement by itself, the kind

858
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: of thing he was putting together very quietly. He had

859
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: a very quiet start to his career. He had very

860
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: quiet moments throughout large parts of it. I Mean, here's

861
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: the funny part about it. He started when a lot

862
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: of other of his Brazilian contemporary started around sort of

863
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: post nine to eleven, a round in two thousand and

864
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: twoish around that time, and then wanted to build a

865
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: career from there. But he missed the heyday of Pride.

866
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: He didn't get it early enough of a start to

867
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: get a call up over there, and he missed the

868
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: early UFC boom post two thousand and five as well.

869
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: He did not make his UFC debut until I think

870
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: twenty eleven or twenty twelve. Let me verify that.

871
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost it. What do he lose? Like five

872
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: years of his prime because UFC wanted him but he

873
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: couldn't get the visa again.

874
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: The VC issues which you talked about. He didn't make

875
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: it till twenty twelve. I mean Shogun had already become

876
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: a Pride champ and a UFC champ and then lost

877
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: the UFC champ before Glover even made his UFC debut.

878
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: He lost years of his career. But it should be

879
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: noted when you think about the Brazilian legends, especially at

880
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: light heavyweight showguns Vander Lays, Aronas, you could go to,

881
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: Let's see who else, Hanato Sebral, you could go.

882
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: On on, what about the King of the Streets?

883
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: Yes, no, no, Well, Marco Hulas was heavyweight, but I'm

884
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: talking about light heavyweight.

885
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: Oh, he could have cut down to two oh five.

886
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: He could have. He could have also Little nog Goes

887
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: in that there was a general class of Brazilian excellence

888
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: that came out at that time, especially at light heavyweight.

889
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Glover never really got the credit as being part of that,

890
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: but he very much was part of that class. It

891
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: just took him a little while longer by virtue of

892
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: how much time he lost with all his visa issues

893
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: and then getting back in getting a title at age

894
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: forty two years old. That's the first thing I'd say.

895
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: The second part about his career that really stands out

896
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: to MEBC is just very simply, he is a testament

897
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: to what happens when you are perseverant and you make

898
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: commitment to martial arts development just a part of your life.

899
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: You know, his success. Some guys got success in two

900
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: thousand and five, like Showgun, and some guys got success

901
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: later in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,

902
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine again to that Brazilian class and whatnot,

903
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: and he never did. He had to wait until twenty

904
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty two to get well or twenty

905
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: twenty one, even what year was it when he finally

906
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: beat a project twenty two on June of that year.

907
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: He had to wait that long. He had to wait

908
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: twenty years into his career to finally get the acclaim

909
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: that he deserved. That is a testament, and that only

910
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: happens when you're a blue collar guy as part of

911
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: your identity, and you pack a lunch every day and

912
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: every day you go to the gym and just get

913
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: a little bit better and a little bit better and

914
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: a little bit better. So I think of him as

915
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: that Brazilian class b see and I also think it

916
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: as one of these lunch pail guys who is just

917
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: a testament to what happens when you don't fucking quit

918
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: for showgun BC. It's a little bit different. He did

919
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: burst early. He is one of the most important legends

920
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: in all of Brazilian MMA. He's one of the best

921
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: Brazilian Frankly, I was right MMA fighters ever. He had

922
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: arguably the very best calendar year any MMA fighters ever

923
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: had in two thousand and five. I'm gonna say flatly,

924
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: he had the best run through any tournament any fighter

925
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: has ever had through the Pride Middleweight Grand Prix. He

926
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: did fall on hard times and should have retired probably

927
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: a long time ago, but in terms of his upside,

928
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: one of the most important Brazilian rivals of all time

929
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: between Shoot to Box and Brazilian Top Team, best tournament

930
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: run ever, arguably best year ever, and a real dynamite

931
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: savage when it came to making very dangerous moy tie

932
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: a part of finishing, a part of high level fighting,

933
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: and not just to him, of course, Vandalalay and others

934
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva, but he was a big part of that too.

935
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: Indeed, and you know, keeping with the trio there, Josie

936
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: Aldo had already retired, although he has a boxing pro

937
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: boxing debut coming up on UFC Fight Pass. But that

938
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: took me off guard almost as much as it took

939
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: him off guard. I think, you know, that's typically how

940
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: UFC does it. Where I think Jose found out while

941
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: he was sitting in the arena luke on the screen

942
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: that he would be you know, is he the headline

943
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: er if not right up there for this year's Hall

944
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: of Fame class. But to see him break down, not

945
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: just like once for a little bit, but like they went,

946
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: they almost threw to a commercial and through the camera

947
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: back at him and he was still broken down. Luke, Like, damn, dude,

948
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: you know like that like that, How does does that

949
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: not touch you? You know, you think somebody like Joe, You think,

950
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: what anytime somebody gets so much start them and you know,

951
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: and championships and a claim and all that that. How

952
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: many times have we seen people change, you know, maybe

953
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: separate from harboring an escaped uh politician, Luke, that's about

954
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: as pure from a pure gentleman a moment that that

955
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: you could imagine to see how much that actually meant

956
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: to him. And uh, you know, like Anderson in the

957
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: modern era was the was the was the flashy one,

958
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: you know, that represented Brazilian Mma. But Jose Aldo was

959
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: the the you know, the the clock ticking every time, consistent,

960
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: destroying one. I was a little surprised to see that

961
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: get to him like that, But I loved it, man,

962
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: I loved it.

963
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think during the time, you could

964
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: argue that Demetrius has gone on to do things better

965
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: in Mma than Jose. I'm not necessarily making that argument,

966
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: but certainly one could. But and again, they didn't have

967
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: flyweight at WC when when Demetrius was around. But just

968
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, Jose Aldo to me, they

969
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: made your favor for a long time to face that organization,

970
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: But the real face that organization, yes, was Jose Aldo.

971
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: He's the best fighter in WEC history. He's one of

972
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: the five best fighters ever in my view. You could

973
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: have him even higher than that if you wanted to.

974
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: He's one of the very best premier talents ever to

975
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: come out on planet Earth sub one point fifty five.

976
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: He showed what could happen when you married dynamic athleticism

977
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: with you know, obviously hit all the various parts of

978
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: the game because he was it was a brown belt

979
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: world champion, not a black belt, but he beat Cobrina

980
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: into getting in the world championships at brown belt before

981
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: they both made it to black and dude, he was

982
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: with of these guys like he came out with this

983
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: devastating lag kicking in Muay Thai and then I remember

984
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: when Gray Mayner went to go wrestle with him, was

985
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: like mind blown, and how good his defensive wrestling was.

986
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: He was good at defensive wrestling before any of the

987
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: very good strikers really in MMA were as good because

988
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: there was guys who could strike and had defensive wrestling,

989
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: but not guys who you thought of primarily as strikers

990
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: who could do it. He did it. I mean, we

991
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: are talking about the X the very highest level of

992
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: excellence in the sport that this guy achieved was a

993
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: ten year undefeated run. Basically, they just don't come much

994
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: better than Jose all the facts.

995
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, did he deserve a McGregor rematch and not get it?

996
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: I thought so, But you know, the sport moves on.

997
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: You know, it was cool to see him mentioned that.

998
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: You know, he looks back at Connor so positively because

999
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: you know, Connor got him his biggest payday you know, ever,

1000
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: and elevated his you know, brand in that regard. So

1001
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, that story mixed with when he told Oscar

1002
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: Willis at the postfight press conference that Connor put red

1003
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: pennies on Jose's door the night before UFC two hundred,

1004
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of hilarious, Luke to a certain degree if

1005
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: you care about that stuff. But no, the King of

1006
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: he oh, Luke, the King. Indeed, it's funny you just

1007
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: said top five, and you know I always sort of

1008
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: have a working upper table. Top five not that it

1009
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: really matters. It's just my own personal hierarchy, and I

1010
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: get a lot of slander from people saying, like, dude,

1011
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: you got to reshuffle that deck and put jose in there,

1012
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: and you just said top five, but it's like you

1013
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: can't only have five. I wonder though, if I have

1014
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: been wrong, because I typically reserved that space for Anderson,

1015
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: George John Fador and who am I missing there? Luke, Demetrius, Demetrius.

1016
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: And then you have to ask yourself, did Habib enter

1017
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: that or did he just short to DC enter that

1018
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: I would.

1019
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: Not put Habib over Josee, although I don't think, okay,

1020
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: I did, don't have to think about that.

1021
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 2: But did Cormier pass that when he knocked out step

1022
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: in the first fight or did he lose it? You know,

1023
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: it's like there's a gray area. There's a lot of

1024
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: great names, but you know, I wouldn't be wrong if

1025
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: I decided to reshuffle the deck and put him in

1026
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: there in that top five, because he I just.

1027
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: Don't think people understand all the ways in which he

1028
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: contributed to the growth of MMA, not just as a

1029
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: popular attraction, although there's some debate about that, because he

1030
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: was never really a major pay per view star. But

1031
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: in terms of the skills, he was able to showcase

1032
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: like we didn't even talk about his boxing, his ability

1033
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: to slip punch, his re angle and pivot off the

1034
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: front foot body attacks by combining things that the guys

1035
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: just weren't slipping punches like you see it fairly regularly

1036
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: now to you know of some success, some not. Jose

1037
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: was doing that fucking fourteen or whatever it was years

1038
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: ago at this point, way ahead of his time, way

1039
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: ahead of the rest of the crew. Everyone like, the

1040
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: reason why he was so dominant was everyone had to

1041
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: play catch up four years. Four years. It took that

1042
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: long for the division to even figure out what possible

1043
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: ways you could even slow a guy down like that.

1044
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: So I just don't think folks really appreciate how much

1045
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: he contributed to the technical maturation of the sport, especially

1046
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: for the lighterweight guys really really had a very direct

1047
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: hand in it.

1048
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: I love when he came over from the WEC, They're like,

1049
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: we're not even gonna have him fight for the championship here,

1050
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: you're the UFC featherweight champion, go ahead, and he went

1051
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: he went ahead.

1052
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: How could you do anything else? It'd be so disrespectful.

1053
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: All right, See, let's talk about the comin event UFC

1054
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: two eighty three. So Brandon Moreno actually ends up stopping

1055
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: Devinson Figuredo via TKO. Basically it's after the third round,

1056
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: the third round had ended, a fourth round never begins,

1057
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: and it was in that middle space, so they give

1058
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: it to him at basically five minutes of the third round.

1059
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: He is now once again your UFC Flyweight Champion BC.

1060
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: Very open ended question, but an important one to you.

1061
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: What did Brandon Moreno prove with this win?

1062
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: I think he proved that that he won this rivalry,

1063
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: that in terms of the overall performances, he's the better

1064
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: fighter of the two in this you know now historic

1065
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: chapter series between them. And if there was any argument

1066
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: needed above the fact that he's two to one and

1067
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: one against Figuredo, his wins, his two wins are are

1068
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: the only two stoppages and are largely one sided. And

1069
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: I mean this one was one sided to the point,

1070
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: Luke that I actually saw people coming back around again

1071
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: in DM meing going hey, wait, do we overvalue this

1072
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: this series? It's actually not one of the greatest rivalries.

1073
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: Only the first fight was great and the third one

1074
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: was slow and there were two one sided stoppages, and

1075
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: I was like, slow down, people. I really enjoyed this rivalry. Okay,

1076
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: maybe it's not, you know, the greatest in history, but

1077
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: I think, you know, you get to that point as

1078
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: an emotional fan because Moreno came out and handled it.

1079
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: He mixed in the wrestling smartly, He made adjustments on

1080
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: the feed and striking. He used volume. For the fact

1081
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: that Figaredo's especially with that hard weight cut. I I

1082
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: don't think you can say it enough. Can't you know,

1083
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: can't can't go crazy, can't can't go balls to the

1084
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: walls and really flaunt that power on that same level

1085
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: more than one strike at a time. Uh considering the

1086
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: put the upheaval in Moreno's corner and camp on the

1087
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: way in here with James cross out and uh Saf

1088
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: Saoud in, man, that's just a mature performance to come

1089
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: back and and and one up the guy who's who's

1090
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: giving him trouble along the way. You know, I didn't

1091
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: learn a ton. It's not that he made an overly

1092
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: ridiculous leap. I think he just fixed some of the

1093
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: some of the things from the third fight, and and

1094
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, look the look Figaredo's thirty five,

1095
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: and you know that paunch took a lot of starch

1096
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: out of Figaredo, that that left that left hook that

1097
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: closed his eye. And of course there was a brief

1098
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: period where I thought it was maybe from the the

1099
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: uh the the eypoke woul followed it. But I really

1100
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: enjoyed the investigative work of the UFC team to point

1101
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: that out that it wasn't. Yeah, man, he's the man

1102
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: at Flyway, and you know he kind of needed Figuraedo

1103
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: to truly make him. But he came back and the

1104
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: belt is his. Figurado's moving up to one thirty five.

1105
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: And now we get to see if Mareno in this division,

1106
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: which has been all fireworks and parody since DJ got traded.

1107
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: And you know, so Hudo saved it. Let's see if

1108
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: he can put a run together. He's still very young.

1109
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: We'll have a big push marketing wise with the you know,

1110
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: with the Mexican heritage, but very mature performance.

1111
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I have a few things about this

1112
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: that could really stand out to me. Now Danny Sigura

1113
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: tweeted this on Saturday night. It really is important to

1114
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: note this because what I'm about to tell you, like

1115
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: even ten years ago was really unfathomable, just completely unfathomable,

1116
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: which is that there were before Saturday Night, four UFC

1117
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: fighters of Mexican descent, four Mexican nationals that are going

1118
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: to be fighting for UFC title. Brandon Murena was the

1119
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: first one and he won. Subsequent to this, we're going

1120
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: to have Alexa Grosso taking on Valentino Chevchenko as well

1121
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: as Idana Aldana taking on aman In Nunez. Plus don't

1122
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: forget it's an interim title, but still a very worthy

1123
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: opportunity for Ai Rodriguez to take on josh Emmett Dude.

1124
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: By the end of twenty twenty three, it is at

1125
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: least conceivable unlikely because it's you know, just hard to

1126
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: predict all four are gonna win. But you might be

1127
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: able to say you have four Mexican nationals as champions

1128
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: in the in one calendar year for the UFC. That

1129
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: is crazy development for that part of the world. I

1130
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: knew that they would eventually come around and be big players.

1131
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: They just you know this from Boxing BC. I mean,

1132
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't even need to tell you how important Mexico

1133
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: is to the history of boxing. It's one of the

1134
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: premier places in the world for developing, finding and enjoying

1135
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: premier talent. But the reality is on the MMA side,

1136
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: they are making vast improvements in very, very rapid ways.

1137
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: This is a historic time for Mexican Mixed martial arts,

1138
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: and I just hope all fans can appreciate that when

1139
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: every one of these hotspots gets stronger in MMA, the

1140
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: talent pool gets better, which means the fights get better,

1141
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: the game gets bigger. You gotta love every part of that.

1142
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I'd.

1143
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: Say, game beats game, Luke.

1144
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: It certainly does, and game recognizes game, and I think

1145
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: we should all recognize Mexican MMA could be on the

1146
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: precipice of something bigger. We shall see the other part, though,

1147
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: specifically about Brandon Moreno BCA. I went back and I

1148
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: watched the fight this morning, and I took notes on

1149
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: everything I saw. You know, what really stood out to

1150
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: me is that it wasn't like Brandon did anything really

1151
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: super special this time. I didn't see anything especially crazy

1152
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: from him, but what he did do was very very

1153
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: clean fundamentals. What I'm going to say here is I

1154
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: believe both guys leveled up from this rivalry. Now you

1155
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: could say, well, Figaredo didn't look all that great necessarily

1156
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. Compare the level of detail which he

1157
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: approached the game in this fight with the first one,

1158
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: and they're just radically different. Even he improved, but Brandon

1159
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Moreno is just almost a new fight at this point.

1160
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: He had a lot of the raw ingredients, but it

1161
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: is such a smooth, well put together package at this

1162
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: point that it really is just remarkable. What won him

1163
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: this was destabilizing inside leg kicks, well timed takedowns right

1164
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: hands over the top or combinations left to the body

1165
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: right over the top, or when he was able to

1166
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: judge distance with hand fighting. That leaping left that you saw,

1167
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: he threw it about thirteen seconds before it actually landed.

1168
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: He missed the first time, and then he adjusted the

1169
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: second and bc. All of it came from understanding range

1170
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: and exactly the very particular kind of footwork setups that

1171
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: Figuredo does. Guy Moreno found them all out, knew exactly

1172
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: what was coming, had planned for them all, and was

1173
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: able to either get out of the way of most

1174
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: of the trouble or just cause it on his own

1175
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: by getting hunched over stands. He would jab in open air.

1176
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: He would bait attacks. It's all not easy, not easy.

1177
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: We've talked about this with a Gordon Ryan's game. Nothing

1178
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: about his game is easy, but it is simple. It's

1179
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: not based on anything super crazy, flashy. It's not based

1180
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: on anything where you're he's wild spinning this and acrobatic that.

1181
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: It's just super solid fundamentals on distance, timing, footwork, all

1182
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: those things put together, building it knowing the opponent. And

1183
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: he built all of the previous opponents, excuse me, all

1184
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: the previous fights he had against this guy. He put

1185
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: that together, mixed it with this well good I should say,

1186
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: strong understanding of fundamentals, and it just resulted in a

1187
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: close fight. But really one guy was just better than

1188
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: the other one throughout the entire course of it. It

1189
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 1: was Brandon Moreno. I am amazed at just how far

1190
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: he has come along. We shall see how long he

1191
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: can hold onto that title. B see, especially if Shudo

1192
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: comes back, and maybe he goes to one thirty five

1193
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: or one twenty five. We don't really know. But I

1194
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: got to tell you, man, these guys built themselves up

1195
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: through this rivalry. Moreno built himself up in particular, but

1196
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: they raised the stakes for the rivalry and do they

1197
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: rebuilt flyweight and when it really really needed it, not

1198
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: by themselves, but certainly you can say the rivalry lifted it.

1199
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: This was a really grown man performance from random.

1200
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Mareno indeed, indeed, and you know he's he's becoming a

1201
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: sum of his parts guy. You know, he's becoming a

1202
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: complete fighter. And you wonder if the switching camp, which

1203
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: we assumed might be a negative, ends up being a

1204
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: positive to get a you know, completely new look from

1205
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: a completely you know, new smart brain to try to

1206
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: help make sluttle changes because you know, Moreno won the

1207
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: He ended up winning more fights than Figaredo in this rivalry.

1208
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: But I think overall, because you could have made a

1209
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: better case for Moreno win in a decision and the

1210
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: draw in the first one, then you could have Figuredo.

1211
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: So I think all in all, it just came down

1212
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: to very little things and when he was able to

1213
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: adjust those little things, he had the potential to be

1214
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: dominant in certain stretches of this rivalry. And when he didn't,

1215
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: it was still pretty close and Figureedo, you know, edged

1216
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: him out. But look, it's hard, man. You know, I

1217
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: can give Figureedo credit for making the way and and

1218
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, he had that window there to be something,

1219
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: and he maxed it out and he came back and

1220
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: won the title back in the trilogy, and no one's

1221
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna hold that back. But it's like, damn, if only

1222
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: this way class was, you know, one hundred and twenty

1223
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: seven pounds, what would you know if he had more

1224
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: of a gas tank, what would he look like being

1225
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: that destroyer? He'd probably looked like how he did in

1226
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: the Benevidaz fights, right, I mean it's like, you know

1227
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: when he can be when he has the gas tank

1228
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: to go through some crazy exchanges and stuff, figure it

1229
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: out so many ways to finish a fight. He's been

1230
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: a revelation for the division and for my entertainment purposes.

1231
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions out what he'll look

1232
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: like Abandamwaight, But didn't he scar you into thinking he

1233
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: was like retiring taking off the gloves. Look, that was

1234
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: a little scary for a second.

1235
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he was like I'm just gonna go

1236
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: to one thirty five BC. I said this on Saturday Night.

1237
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: Would love to get your response to this, Like, dude,

1238
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: Figurado's obviously a talented guy, right, but thirty five years

1239
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: old going to one to thirty five and Umar Numerge

1240
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: Madoff isn't even ranked inside the top ten. Man. Good

1241
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: luck trying to climb the ranks in that division. Bro, Yeah,

1242
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: it's thirty five years of age.

1243
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: It has the potential to be an uphill battle. We're

1244
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to see if his power carries and stays

1245
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: on that on that threat level at thirty five. If

1246
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't, yeah, I mean he's gonna You know, he's tough,

1247
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: he's got as got a good grappling gave me There's

1248
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: a lot he can do, but he's his style was

1249
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: tailored to being such a bully in that division. You

1250
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 2: know that. It's like sometimes that gap is just too

1251
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: too big. He's got a lot of questions to answer

1252
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: with the age mixed with that, but he's still operating

1253
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: at such a high level even with the age. Luke

1254
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: that you give him a chance. Give the man a chance, right.

1255
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair.

1256
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: B C.

1257
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea who you would want to

1258
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: see Brandon Moreno up against next? Juicy? I think it

1259
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: was Juicy Er. Was it Pantoja for megabackstage? I think

1260
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: was Pantoja.

1261
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pantoja is do bro Pantosians.

1262
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: He wants to That's who you go with. That's who

1263
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with.

1264
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, have they fought each other? Because it's been very

1265
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: incestuous in this division at the top level, where they've

1266
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: said they've tend to all fight each other.

1267
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me let me get the correct record

1268
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: here before I speak up.

1269
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So Moreno lost to Pantosia by decision way

1270
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: back in twenty eighteen. It was the fight that led

1271
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: to Brandon Moreno being cut. So not only do you

1272
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: have that whole sort of storyline factor playing out, but

1273
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: at thirty two, panto Is coming on with the three

1274
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: straight victories and two of them being Submission's got to

1275
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: be him, right, It's got to be him next, because

1276
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, there are a lot of people that said, hey,

1277
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: you didn't even you didn't need a fourth fight between

1278
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: these two. Pantojia had already earned it. But Luke, if

1279
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: Moreno does win, dude, you gotta get a KAIKR France

1280
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: rematch going. And you know, him against Royville, him against guys,

1281
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: he's already fought like he could put together a run

1282
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: and as we know, every fight's going to be fireworks.

1283
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Dude.

1284
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: I love this division.

1285
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: I love his division too, And I gotta say, these guys,

1286
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: flyweight fights weren't always this fun. I think we should

1287
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: say that out loud. Yeah, people are like, oh my god,

1288
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: the UC cut flyweights, and yes, maybe they cut them prematurely,

1289
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: but you also have to acknowledge the fights. Certainly, this generation,

1290
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: it may not be a permanent fixture. I mean, divisions

1291
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: and their quality go up and down over time. But

1292
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like these two guys, these fights are much

1293
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: better than early stage flyweight fights. There was a lot

1294
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: of wrestling. Guys didn't had a hard time hurting each other.

1295
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of power necessarily. I feel like

1296
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: the weight classes has overall globally more talent in twenty

1297
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: two twenty three than it did in twenty thirteen.

1298
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: When it started. It used to be fun because they

1299
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: looked like they were mice running through a trap. It

1300
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: was like, you know, not it was like wild. But

1301
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: to your point, no, there wasn't a ton of finishers.

1302
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: And now I think you know we don't we God,

1303
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: Dimitrius Johnson Earns needs deserve so much more credit than

1304
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: anyone ever gave remember ahead, remember that stretch where DJ

1305
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 2: was just getting decision wins and we're like, not only

1306
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: is he not marketable, he's not a finisher. And then

1307
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: he just comes out there and like knocks, uh Benefita's

1308
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: out in the first round of the rematch and just

1309
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: you know, starts fing around and getting last second finishes.

1310
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: I mean, damn dude, let it, Luke. Let for the

1311
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: rest of my life and any mma bullshit that spews

1312
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: out of my mouth, anything involving in upper Room and

1313
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: top five and all that shit. If you ever hear me,

1314
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: start to forget and and misstep and and never keep

1315
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: DJ where he's deserved and belongs. And by the way,

1316
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: he's still going and still great. You know, kick me

1317
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: right in the old kajones, Luke, okay, because I deserve that,

1318
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: because DJ he earned that shit, man. But yeah, Flyway,

1319
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: Flyway wasn't that much fun when is on top. But

1320
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: I don't know is that his fault?

1321
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: That's that's he was fun, that's the problem, right, Like

1322
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: he was fun on top. And yes, you could argue

1323
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: su Hudo was there as well and beat him in

1324
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: the second one. All that's kind of crazy. I'm just saying,

1325
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: like to me, the general quality of flyweight forget about

1326
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: Demitrius Johnson fights, who is the outlier of all outliers.

1327
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's very unfair to hold him as

1328
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: your standard the general the general level of flyweight fights.

1329
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, they're better now, they are, They're much better now.

1330
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: And this this rivalry is, you know, a little bit

1331
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: also an exaggerated example, but I think is more emblematic

1332
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: of what you typically can get these days versus what

1333
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: it used to be. Now.

1334
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: Look, name a better UFC flyweight fight than Henry Suhudo

1335
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: versus Joseph benavitezuh.

1336
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: The the first one between these two maybe well one

1337
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: had fouls. I mean that's not exactly right. But second

1338
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: one maybe.

1339
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, No second one, third one?

1340
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: Uh there, yeah, there one's different though. Okay, neither here

1341
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: nor there. H b C. We're got to a point

1342
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: in a four now. Gilbert Burns, speaking of dominance, Jesus Lord,

1343
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: have mercy on poor Neil Magni. Gilbert Burns just ran

1344
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: through him. I don't know how else to say it.

1345
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: I got a ton of respect for Neil Magni, but

1346
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: he was overmatched. Gilbert Burns did. Once his grappling got going,

1347
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: he did whatever he wanted to ended up with a

1348
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: head and arm triangle submission in the first round BC.

1349
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: He called for Colby Covington next two, parter one? Did

1350
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: he restore confidence in you about him still being a

1351
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: very top contender at walterweight in two? If it is

1352
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: the case, should he get the Colby comingon fight next?

1353
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? It may end up being the right fight under

1354
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: both scenarios. But dude, at thirty six, coming off of

1355
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: a you know, a war with tremiav again, one that

1356
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: probably should be argued more of how close it actually was. Like,

1357
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: this is a fight he took kind of because he

1358
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: had do to stay busy against a big name. I

1359
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: expected him to win, not to the dominant level that

1360
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: he did, nor that Vegas set him up to you.

1361
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean Vegas on top of this one. They knew better, Luca.

1362
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: This was that perfect type of fight where you're like

1363
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: looking at the odds and you're going, man, Magne's tough,

1364
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: He's tough to look great against all this shit. Oh No,

1365
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns with the curly hair is a different story.

1366
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: So what he ultimately restored was not just like, is

1367
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: he a player in the space he would prefer it

1368
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: seems to operate in meaning action star. He wants Covington,

1369
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 2: he wants Mosvital, he wants to be in that. I

1370
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: want to make money in the pay per view main

1371
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: or comine whether I'm in a title fight or not.

1372
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: But Dude, the ease in which he relied on his

1373
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: original strengths of takedowns into grappling, into submissions. Dude, He's

1374
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: still a title contender in my eyes, especially since you

1375
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: know that the division was turned upside down with the

1376
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 2: upset of Edwards and now we need the trilogy right there,

1377
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: Maybe Colvey's right the right fight either way, Luke, but

1378
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's done fighting for a title, dude,

1379
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns especially you know you heard the comments after

1380
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: of like I could do that when I just did

1381
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: to Magne to anybody, he fell in love with how

1382
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: well rounded he got rightfully, so he became a legit

1383
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: him at striking threat. And oh, by the way, he

1384
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: dropped Usmann in the first round in the title fight.

1385
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 2: Sometimes we forget that. But if he leans a little

1386
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: bit more submission first, Luke, there there there is a

1387
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: short amount a short list of people on this earth

1388
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: who who can you know fight that off with with

1389
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: these Dude, he's still a threat for this title.

1390
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong, Luke, You're not wrong. It'll be

1391
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens in terms of the Colby

1392
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: Covington fight. He might get it, he probably should get it.

1393
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: But I have a feeling that they don't really know

1394
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Kolby. I don't know exactly what

1395
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: his return time is, under what circumstances. He has been very,

1396
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: very quiet for the most part. And here's the problem. Dude,

1397
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: You've got bal Mohammed sitting at four, You've got Gilbert

1398
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: Burns sitting at five. I feel like they're headed for

1399
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: a fight because even pre fight you had you had

1400
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: Burns at one of the pre fight press conferences or

1401
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: media days getting out there and saying, you know, I

1402
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: don't even understand why this guy's ranked ahead of me,

1403
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Of course Blaal had a response, and

1404
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: Belah's on the run of his life. It should be

1405
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: noted to this point as well. You might end up

1406
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: with those two and then those who trying to figure

1407
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: out what happens up top. I don't know, I don't

1408
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: know exactly what was gonna happen with Klobe Coveton, but

1409
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: I'll say this, man, if if you were sleeping on

1410
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns, wow, he's kind of washed and blah blah

1411
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: blah nah fam nah, not at all, not really true,

1412
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: even a little bit. He looked amazing. And if you

1413
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: can show the slides of the finish of the choke

1414
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: one more time, it should be noted here for a

1415
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: head and arm triangle, he's not even in close to

1416
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: the optimal position. In fact, he's stuck up against the fence,

1417
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: so he has to be kind of on top. So

1418
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: this is where he launches it over. And then you'll

1419
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: see when you get him fully to the side. Look,

1420
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: stop it there for just a second. Look at this.

1421
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: That is not even close to an optimal position for

1422
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: head and arm triangle. You actually want to be much

1423
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: further off if you can be the fact that the

1424
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: fence stopped him from angling out the way he needed

1425
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: to fully get it, and yet still was able to

1426
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: tap A veteran. Veteran like Neil Magne tells you this

1427
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: dude knows every every centimeter of where a choke just

1428
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: needs to be exactly to get it right. Was able

1429
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: to pull it off a master of sport in jiu jitsu,

1430
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: and overall looked like he still had all the athletic

1431
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: dynamism his set up. To get it, he switched stands

1432
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: into a right handed stance to get the body locks.

1433
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: The entry was smooth, the finished of the bodylock take

1434
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: down with smooth. The choice of the body lock because

1435
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: it gives him pinning top pressure when he lands with smooth. Like, dude,

1436
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: this guy is very much, very much still a high

1437
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: level operator. So I don't know exactly how this is

1438
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: gonna go. Colby Coopley, fuck fuck Games BC and make

1439
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: someone like Burns and Ball all have to fight, which,

1440
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: by the way, wouldn't be the end of the world,

1441
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: but I would like to see Burns versus Coveting. I

1442
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: actually think it's a real tough test. Here's the deal,

1443
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: though Colby is still at.

1444
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. Colby. You gotta basically pick your

1445
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: poison because you you fuck around with your own fuck

1446
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: fuck Games You'll end up flaying Jamaiah and be offered

1447
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: nothing else, right, you.

1448
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

1449
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: Like so could be so you got to kind of

1450
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: pick what you would prefer and what you in that regard.

1451
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: But you know, I wonder if Gilbert could have a

1452
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: Glover like Ron right. You know, he's no one's saying

1453
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: he's necessarily going to fight for another title. He'd have

1454
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: to beat, like you said, somebody on the Muhammed level.

1455
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: But dude, especially if he leans into that side a

1456
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: little bit more, man still got it still going. I'd

1457
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: love him against either Usmann or Edwards in a rematch

1458
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: if he ends up getting to that point. But we'll

1459
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: see Luke. But that's a big win, man, that's a

1460
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 2: I mean, because like, dude, Magni just looked as kind of,

1461
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: you know, the kind of against Daniel Rodriguez. Magni got

1462
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: a Magne type win where you're like, okay, okay, this

1463
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: guy's you know, still a player, still that guy, But

1464
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: wasn't that guy in this fight? Damn Yeah.

1465
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: And the last thing I'd say is too, like Gilbert

1466
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: Burns needed to have a win like this, right, I mean,

1467
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: if you are as over the other guy is overmatched

1468
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: as he's supposed to be in theory, and you're coming

1469
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: off of a loss and you want to establish yourself

1470
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: as like a still a guy to be very taken seriously,

1471
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: you had to go in there and dominate him. And

1472
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: he didn't like beat him up in that way, but

1473
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: he fucking dominated him. I mean he dominated him from

1474
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: basically the moment he put his hands on him until

1475
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: ref told him to get off. Uh. And that was

1476
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: what he needed. That was a really that was exactly

1477
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: the needle that he needed to thread, and I thought

1478
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: he did it as about as ably as an advanced

1479
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: fighter could look.

1480
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: If you had to set the odds for who would

1481
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: who's going to come out of this division and fight

1482
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: the winner of Usman Edwards three? Who's the leader in

1483
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: the clubhouse? You don't know who everyone's fighting next, you

1484
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to win, But who's the

1485
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,479
Speaker 2: leader in the clubhouse? In your eyes?

1486
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: Boy, that's a great call. It's going to depend partly

1487
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: on what Leon says. Obviously, right, they're not going to

1488
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: give a title shot to Jorge. I don't think. I

1489
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: just I'd be very surprised by that, but one never knows.

1490
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: They might.

1491
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's the Dan Hendo Bispink clause, Luke.

1492
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: They could pull that out. They could just pull that

1493
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: out of nowhere.

1494
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: You know, probably I might say, bealal Honestly.

1495
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: You don't think, I don't think.

1496
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, there's little whispers that Jamaiah's next fight

1497
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be five, in which case he's out. If

1498
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: he's in okay, So I'll say it this way. If

1499
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: he's in the running at welterweight, actually like in the running,

1500
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: it's him. But from what I'm hearing, it might. It's

1501
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: not out of the question, but it looks likelier that

1502
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: one eighty five is next.

1503
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: Costa.

1504
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, is Coasta gonna stick around. I

1505
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen.

1506
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 2: To see him in the in the Secret Juice muscle

1507
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: shirt side.

1508
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: I did that was Very's he likes the trol. Oh Bobo, Jeanie,

1509
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: he likes the troll all right, BC point number five.

1510
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: Here we'll wrap up for our top five, which is,

1511
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about the feature fight on this card. It

1512
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: was a flyweight women's fight, just Gondrage taking on Lauren Murphy.

1513
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: The scores of this one, these are scores you should

1514
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: never hear. And I'm gonna explain why the scores were

1515
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: two thirty twenty five's one thirty twenty six. Folks, The

1516
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: only reason you should ever hear a score like that

1517
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: is if someone had a point deducted. If someone ends

1518
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: up taking a beating where they lose thirty twenty five

1519
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: thirty twenty five thirty twenty six, either the ref or

1520
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: the corner or both fucked up. BC.

1521
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a three round fight. This is a three

1522
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: round round fight.

1523
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: By the way, our own friend of the show, Aaron Bronstatter,

1524
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: compared the combined head striking totals from the first Jong

1525
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: Wiley and I believe it was the Yuannie and j

1526
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: Check fight, right. They combined the totals to the head.

1527
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: It was only twenty more in a five round fight

1528
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: between two competitors, one hundred and eighty basically to the

1529
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty head strikes that Lauren Murphy absorbed

1530
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: in a three round contest. BC, Whose fault is it

1531
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: that this fight was not stopped earlier?

1532
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: Trainers? One hundred percent? And I don't even you know.

1533
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 2: I didn't investigate it. I didn't see if they talked afterwards.

1534
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't even know offhand who is her trainer trainers.

1535
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: Actually, her husband is one of them. I'm not sure

1536
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: the other name.

1537
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're always going to make that argument,

1538
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: like you always say, if how well they know them

1539
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: and all that. Here's the deal, though, you have to

1540
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: know your own fighter. In the other sense, how are

1541
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: they gonna win this?

1542
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: Look?

1543
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: What makes Lauren Murphy very good for this division? It's

1544
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: a combination of two things, not gonna be very blonde.

1545
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: One is the good side. She's she's a well rounded,

1546
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: mixed mariocal artist who's tough and stubborn. You saw how

1547
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: tough and stubborn she is. That she took that assault

1548
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: and finished it. But she's not a finisher, especially on

1549
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: the elite level in her own route. She's in her

1550
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: own mind, she's not a big knockout threat. She's not

1551
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: someone who's known for pulling submissions out of nowhere. So

1552
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: you know, part of why she's been able to stay

1553
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: a lease is because of how hard she works into

1554
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: her late thirties and how well rounded her game is.

1555
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: But this is, you know, until recently, a very shallow

1556
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: division just the same, which is the other half of

1557
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: that argument, where in you know, this is one of

1558
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: the across the board in its history. Look, it's one

1559
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 2: of the worst divisions. UFC's ever promoted in that regard.

1560
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: I like now that it's it's we got some fresh

1561
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: you know, it's going in a good place. That's part

1562
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: of it. You have to know what she's capable of.

1563
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: What do you win? What's the you know it's say

1564
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: I've said this argument in boxing so many times in

1565
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: the last decade. What what What is the moral victory worth?

1566
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: What do you win? It's a loss, you know what

1567
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean? Who cares that you're able to say at

1568
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I've never been stopped or

1569
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: I fought that former champion, but I wasn't stopped. What

1570
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 2: you know, what's what's the what's the receipt at the

1571
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: end of the day, she wasn't in this fight. It

1572
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: was that's the thing about the Glover to share a

1573
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: fifth round. I washed it through my fingers in part.

1574
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: But that's a title fight, and that's a guy with

1575
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: a reputation for being tough. And by the way, when

1576
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: you have a reputation for teen tough, you'll end up

1577
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: using every inch of your chin because referees like to

1578
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: give you, you know, give you some latitude and some

1579
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 2: room there. That's a different story. She wasn't in this fight.

1580
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: There was no thread of one or two punches turning

1581
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: that around. I hated it. I hated watching it. And

1582
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 2: this doesn't even come into play, Luke, that in our

1583
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: okay bet head to head league, I got absolutely run

1584
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: over for the second straight one, and if they had

1585
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: stopped it, I would have saved a little face with

1586
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 2: the prediction of the Androge knockout. That not with I mean, go,

1587
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do, Luke? You gonna tear into them?

1588
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: You should tear into them here.

1589
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna I like Lauren Murphy a lot,

1590
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tear into her. And I'm sure that

1591
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: her husband, who was working in her corner in that capacity,

1592
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure he didn't want bad things to happen to her.

1593
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I've tried fire and brimstone from this,

1594
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: and sometimes I will resort to it no matter what.

1595
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: This time, I really want to appeal to the value

1596
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 1: of the argument. I would like to win on the

1597
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: value of ideas. We have really, really, really got to

1598
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: start understanding what it means when people say they're actually

1599
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: right in the wrong way, when people say their corner

1600
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: knows them better, dude. That means there's a conflict of

1601
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: interest basically, or pretty close to it. Right, This argument

1602
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: that the corner knows them better is so very much

1603
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: beside the point and actually backwards logic what actually ends.

1604
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the exact argument that gets trotted out

1605
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,839
Speaker 1: when bad things happen. Right, what's like that your defense

1606
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: of them is that that, like the last thing protecting

1607
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: them was you, and you couldn't do it, like we

1608
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: would do a worse job. I don't really believe. I

1609
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: don't believe that someone who didn't know them as well

1610
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: would actually do a worse job. What could be worse

1611
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: than letting them continue to go out there and take abuse.

1612
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: It's actually the worst case scenario. And in the worst

1613
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: case scenario, they try out that argument. And it's very

1614
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: revealing in a way that I think. I'm not saying

1615
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: her camp did that, but Daniel Cormier introduced it into

1616
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: the public consciousness, at least for this fire. But we've

1617
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: heard it many times. The corner knows them better, they're

1618
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: able to make better decisions. It's the opposite in many

1619
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: many cases. Because they know them better and because they

1620
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: care about them deeply and because they train about them,

1621
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: they believe in their character and upside to the point

1622
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: of irrational commitment. That's the reality. It actually it actually

1623
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: inhibits them from making a more sober assessment of the

1624
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: state of things. To your point, not a dynamic finisher,

1625
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: not necessarily a knockout threat, not someone who's known, in

1626
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: the case with Warren Murphy to like jump guillotine or

1627
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: something like that and really can get that clamp very quickly,

1628
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: and anyone's in danger anytime there. That's not really the

1629
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: way in which she fights. She's very good, she's very decorated,

1630
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 1: but those aren't her particular traits. She's taking a record

1631
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: level of abuse again two thirty twenty fives. If the

1632
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: idea was true that because they knew them better, we

1633
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: simply wouldn't end up in these circumstances. They use it

1634
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: as an ex That argument is used to justify frankly

1635
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: unnecessary abuse. And it tells you that is the connection.

1636
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: The greater you know someone, the more you believe in

1637
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: their upside, the more you believe in what they're capable

1638
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: of to the point of irrational commitment, the more you're

1639
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: willing to let them go out there and only take

1640
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: abuse in real time justify it after the fact. The

1641
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: idea one more time for the people in the back.

1642
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 1: The argument that because the corner knows them better, you

1643
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: get better outcomes is matter of factly false. It is

1644
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: not true. If you're going to justify leaving her in there,

1645
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: you must have a better argument than that, because that

1646
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: one clearly clearly is the eyes opposite of what they

1647
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: intend for.

1648
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: Did we did we learn this already? And Pennington Newness

1649
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: only that fight you actually had a fighter asking out

1650
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 2: in the corner saying no, So it's like even worse.

1651
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: But you know, that's a title fight. So sometimes we suspend,

1652
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: you know, certain fears out of the idea of having

1653
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: your moment. This wasn't a have your moment fight. I

1654
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: mean nothing about it, and I hate that it's even

1655
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: overshadowed what Jessicon Drage did, which has come out in

1656
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: the higher of the two way classes she populates when

1657
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: we were like, wow, why is she back in here

1658
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 2: and looking dominant? Gnarley as hell? I mean, look, this

1659
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: is a big win for her on the idea of

1660
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 2: if she wants to stay at one twenty five, she's

1661
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: still a major player.

1662
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's true, and I think Lauren Murphy

1663
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: probably still has winning days in front of her. Again,

1664
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: it's more of the five round beatings where you begin

1665
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: to get worried about someone being changed for the future,

1666
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: although three round fights can do that sometimes too. I

1667
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see to your point, Lauren Murphy,

1668
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: And it's a good part in many ways that she

1669
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 1: is very hard headed and stubborn and forward thinking and driven.

1670
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: Maybe this will be all for but just the reality

1671
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,440
Speaker 1: is this, in mma, there is a either an appetite

1672
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: or a tolerance of abuse that is distinct to me

1673
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: from fighting for sport, and I think a lot of

1674
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: people have a hard time telling the difference. I'm not

1675
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna say that you or I don't get that wrong

1676
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: time to time. I think we all get a wrong

1677
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: time to time. But I'm going to just be very clear.

1678
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: There is not enough awareness of the difference between weathering

1679
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,959
Speaker 1: abuse for no good reason and what fighting and competitive

1680
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: sport looks like. It shouldn't be as hard as it

1681
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: is to me to distinguish between them, but here we are,

1682
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: apparently it is.

1683
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: I think the people on the back here you out, Luke, Okay,

1684
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: all right?

1685
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm very tired. It's like, justify,

1686
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: here's all I want be see if you're gonna send

1687
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: her back out there. And again Cornett didn't necessarily say this,

1688
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: but again DC introduced it into the consciousness. If we're

1689
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: going to send fighters back out, give me a different reason,

1690
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just give me a different

1691
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: give me something like I don't think this is too

1692
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: much punishment, Like just tell me your judgment is off

1693
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: or something. But don't give me this bullshit like we

1694
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: have this bond that gives me profound insight into the

1695
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: actual state of their medical condition. Dude, it does the

1696
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: fucking opposite. It makes you blind to.

1697
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: Here's a question. I don't think this was in play

1698
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 2: in this one, but in general, does the corner get

1699
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 2: access to the performance bonus in terms of their percentage cut?

1700
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 3: Um?

1701
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,919
Speaker 1: I know the manager might, I don't know about the corner.

1702
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: That would be a situation dependent. Also, let's just say

1703
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: this too, in defending the corner a little bit, uh,

1704
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: Referee o Cyrus Maya not having a great night. Not

1705
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: a great night for him. He's had a few bad nights,

1706
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: but this one was a name at least very cool

1707
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: name O Cyrus is his name. I mean, that's ODB territory, right.

1708
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: But the point I'm trying to make is he was

1709
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 1: the guy who messed up the Terrence McKinney mouthpiece situation

1710
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: earlier in the night and not giving it back to

1711
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: him and readily enough fashion, and then also was the

1712
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: one who just presided over this beating and it's like, dude,

1713
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you? What are you waiting on

1714
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: my guy? Like this is? You know where this is going?

1715
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: But maybe he has a vale tudo background, Luke. There's

1716
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: different standards.

1717
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: There, I guess. So I get maybe he's a maybe

1718
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: he's a fan of Power Slap League. I don't know, BC,

1719
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: I can't really tell you. But bad judgment I can

1720
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:10,799
Speaker 1: tell you that.

1721
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: For a lot of bad judgment in this MMA space slightly, Luke.

1722
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, BC, are we going to get

1723
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 1: to the they want to talk about the the ko

1724
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: at showboxing? You want to do that first? It's all

1725
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: the highlight it's on the rundown here.

1726
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: Well, no, we teased it up top and said that

1727
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: being have you seen this ship?

1728
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: Well, okay, they put it here. I'm just telling you

1729
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: what they put in the rundown. But okay, all right,

1730
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: see one of remind folks, we're getting closer to the

1731
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: end of the month and you know exactly what that means.

1732
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,120
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1734
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1736
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Speaker 1: start highlighting undercard fighters whatever who don't get the recognition

1737
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,000
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1738
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,599
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1739
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: the viewers, to nominate which undercard fighter simply blew your

1740
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: mind and deserve to be rewarded for it. I think

1741
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: there are six days left to vote, so you can

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Speaker 1: learn more how to enter it again, I think we

1744
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: have for last week Umar made number made off royman

1745
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: Villa and I think I put in this week BC

1746
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: Ishmael Bond or Ismael Bond theme. Who do you have? Uh?

1747
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had somebody from UH this week as well,

1748
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: the heavyweight Gileton Almeida Luke who uh who made it

1749
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: look easy? Talk about BC and lt making look ec uh, dude,

1750
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: he's coming on in this heavyweight division, Jolton Almeta And

1751
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: as long as I pronounce that correctly, uh, he may

1752
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: end up holding that hammer, Luke. By the end of

1753
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: this month, we'll have to see what people think.

1754
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: Well, we shall see. So you can hold your phone

1755
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: up to the screen. Right there you can get the

1756
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Speaker 1: get them in Diggity Donks.

1759
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: Okay, he's a scary animal for this division.

1760
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: You can wrestle dude Almeida. Yeah, yeah, he's a beast.

1761
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,879
Speaker 1: He's a beast, all right, BC. Time for the digity

1762
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: donks to ask us questions. It's time for dms from them.

1763
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: He hawk stuff.

1764
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:07,879
Speaker 2: Would you say that we've got male viewers? That's ems

1765
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: probably BC.

1766
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: I love this question because I think it's a great one.

1767
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: This comes to us from at the Real Will Underscore

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01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: seventy four. What are your thoughts on the UFC two

1769
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: eighty three crowd? First of all, kind of sparse, but

1770
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: beyond that, he writes pretty distasteful to shower moreno with

1771
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 1: trash after his performance. But maybe worse than that, leaving

1772
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: prior to Glover's in cage retirement BC. What do you think?

1773
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't love it all around. So look I

1774
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: heard I heard rumors on Twitter. Who knows if it's true.

1775
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring it up that that they say

1776
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: UFC overpriced the tickets on the local level there, which

1777
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: kept out a lot of the real fans and left

1778
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: some empty patches. Because you'd have to believe, in real

1779
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: of all places, first UFC card there in three years,

1780
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: seventeen Brazilian fighters on the card, you'd have to believe

1781
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: that's an instant sellout, right.

1782
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they didn't, And it was. It was. I'm

1783
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: not going to say it was poorly attended, but it

1784
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: it was. I would say it's decently attended, maybe even good. Yeah,

1785
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: definitely not great.

1786
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: Beyond that, Look, what are you gonna say about them

1787
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 2: throwing trash at Brandon Marine? I mean it's classless. Would

1788
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: you say, what was there anything in that? When he

1789
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: was doing his post fight interview, I was looking something up,

1790
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: not fully paying attention. Didn't he do some type of

1791
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: like Viva a Mexico, like almost aggressively back at the crowd?

1792
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: He said Viva Viva Mexico. Perros viva like long lived

1793
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: Mexico dogs is what he called them are. But I

1794
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: think he's not talking to them. I think he's talking

1795
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: to like because they'll say Viva Mexico, cabronez, which means

1796
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: like bastard, but they're talking to other Mexicans when they

1797
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 1: do that.

1798
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: So it felt like because look, they they had boot him,

1799
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: it turns out unjustly for beating their guy, and they

1800
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: thought it was an eye scratch, and the replays when

1801
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: we really focused on that, we found out it was

1802
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 2: the punch that you know, led to the end of

1803
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 2: the fight, after the end of the third round. But

1804
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: I get a crowd just being upset, and then if

1805
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: he said something there that they may have taken the

1806
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: wrong way, you know, it's like, I understand it, Luke,

1807
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 2: but no, it's still that's still a class list reaction.

1808
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm glad Colby wasn't there, Luke, and there was no

1809
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: boomerangs involved. But in terms of the Glover, did they

1810
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: so did they leave? Here's what I'm trying to figure

1811
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: out because I heard this accusation. Did they leave during

1812
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: the fight thinking did thinking he's going to get stopped

1813
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: soon let's go ahead of the exit to start the

1814
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 2: car or was it while he was about to talk

1815
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: and they just were like, oh, we'll see you later,

1816
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: thanks Glover.

1817
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: I think some left early, but what really happened was

1818
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: remembered like he was. It was pretty much academic by

1819
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: the time it was over. So then more leave and

1820
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: then they interviewed, obviously because he was the winner, Jamal

1821
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: Hill first, and I think they just streamed out after that.

1822
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: It was by the time the mic got to Glover

1823
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: to share, there was not a lot of people there. Dude,

1824
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: this is like, I'll just say this, this is why I

1825
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: say every time when American fires go there, like I

1826
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 1: love being in Brazil and they're getting booed. You'll fucking

1827
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: stop doing that. Man. The Brazilian Mma fans, I'll give

1828
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: them this. They they gave Sholgunhula standing ovation, So I

1829
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: did like to see that. I thought that was great,

1830
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: you know, like to recognize the moment there for one

1831
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: of the all time best. But dude, the Brazilian fans

1832
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: are nationalists. I mean, and every fan base is to

1833
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: an extent, but they're like hardcore nationalists, Like you're either

1834
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: Brazilian or you're not, and if you're not, you can

1835
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: kind of go after yourself. You know they're not. It's

1836
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: not I don't know why other audiences try to even

1837
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: pander to them, or why we consider them some of

1838
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 1: the best, like they're the best if like a Brazilian

1839
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: guy wins or Brazilian lady wins, but other than that,

1840
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: they're not even close to the best, which is not

1841
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: really true. Like in Ireland, I don't think you would

1842
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: get something like that. You would get you would get

1843
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, booze in the right circumstance or some people

1844
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: walking out or whatever, but in general, I just don't

1845
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,440
Speaker 1: feel like you get the same overall level of disrespect

1846
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: for anyone who's not strictly Irish in that way.

1847
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 2: They're very very I just think there was something, there

1848
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 2: were some elements to it. If they didn't get the

1849
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: full picture of how the fight ended, then that comment

1850
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: I get it, but the totality of it. Look, I

1851
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: don't know if that's true about the tickets, but I

1852
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 2: hope that's not a direction it's headed, because you know,

1853
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 2: I've seen that in boxing routinely, and you know, I mean,

1854
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: I can't tell you remember the tail end of Floyd

1855
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: Mayweather's pay per view run. There were certain nights It's

1856
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: like I remember particularly his final fight before the McGregor fight,

1857
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: de Andre Burdo fight, where you know, there wasn't boxing

1858
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: fans in the arena, there was like Floyd fans. So

1859
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: there was a tremendous rematch in that co main event.

1860
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: It was a classic. It was Roman Rocky Martinez against

1861
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: Orlando Solito and they put on this war and I

1862
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: think it ended in a draw. And I remember just

1863
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: looking around and the crowd is just like, not here

1864
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: for that, Luke, And I hope that's not the direction

1865
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: it goes, because you know, this was a special night

1866
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 2: in many ways, and you want to see passionate fans

1867
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: in there who love the sport just as much they

1868
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: love their country, and you know, and the fighters who

1869
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: fight under that flag. So I mean, look, it's business, Luke,

1870
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: That's what That's what happens, right, It's business.

1871
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: I guess so. But I'm just tired of people like,

1872
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: what are some of the best crowds in MMA. It's

1873
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: like with the Brazilians. Well, sometimes sometimes that's true. It's

1874
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: not the best.

1875
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: What's the best city globally? I mean, what's the you know,

1876
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: the ranking of best cities globally in terms of just

1877
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 2: making that fight feel incredible? Is it is Dublin in

1878
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: London like one and two?

1879
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I think they're up there. I will tell

1880
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: you now, this was a certain time and place. I

1881
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: don't know if it's true anymore, but I was there

1882
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,759
Speaker 1: when Saint Pierre fought Jake Shields too, with that giant

1883
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: crowd that Toronto fans. They were good, they were real good.

1884
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: And the Canadian fans don't pull shit like that either,

1885
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: at least not at fights I've been to.

1886
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: So and the MSG crowds usually have that extra level

1887
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: feel too.

1888
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: It's a it's a certain something something there for sure

1889
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh okay, from.

1890
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: Maybe Moncton UFC Moncton too, in me a.

1891
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: Certain feel from at stand underscore them underscore up underscore MMA.

1892
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, just the worst name ever. Why is there

1893
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: a culture at MMA where trainers almost never throw the

1894
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: towel to protect their fighter, This person writes, It's way

1895
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,440
Speaker 1: more common in sports like boxing, Yet MMA corners consistently

1896
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: adopt the if he dies, he dies approached.

1897
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: Dude, that's actually a good it's a good question, because

1898
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: I will say I'm happy in general in boxing that

1899
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: things have been going more toward safety. Referees even, I

1900
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: mean referees even sometimes pissed me off. They don't even

1901
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: do account. They jump in t bag the guy and

1902
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 2: wave it off, and you're like, Okay, I would have

1903
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: liked to see him have a chance, but the ref

1904
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: felt that guy took enough punishment. I'd rather lean on

1905
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 2: the safe side, Right, Why don't we? Why is it?

1906
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 2: Why is there not a culture for throwing in the towel,

1907
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: which is a part of boxing, and it happens a lot, right,

1908
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a it's a big part

1909
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: of it. There's there's the referee, there's the I'm sorry,

1910
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: there's the cage side doctor stoppage between rounds. We're used

1911
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: to that, whether it's you know, the BMF title fight

1912
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: or the one we saw with with Moreno just on Saturday.

1913
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: Have you ever do you can you remember a scenario

1914
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 2: in UFC in which that's happened at the elite level

1915
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: where in the middle of a round a coach has

1916
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: like stood up and tried to get in the cage,

1917
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: Like is that even legal?

1918
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? In certain states, I think are it was a

1919
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: time where certain states had been it might be more

1920
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 1: universally acknowledged. Now you can do it in Nevada certainly

1921
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: where or in this was under Nevada rules that CABINMA uses,

1922
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: so it doesn't necessarily have to be between rounds. Yeah,

1923
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: you can be in the middle. I think at certain times,

1924
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: I think the two biggest ones are one. MMA is

1925
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 1: more volatile relative to boxing. So like if someone's four

1926
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: rounds deep and it's an eight round fight and you've

1927
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: just seen them getting whooped, and you know, if you're

1928
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: their trainer and you know what they've gotten, what they don't,

1929
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: you know which way this is gonna go. The chance

1930
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna land a big punch is infinitesimal. Just just

1931
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: close the show. The other one too, is this BC,

1932
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: And then you know, to me, it's really been in

1933
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: many ways we have been lucky. Dude. Like in boxing,

1934
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: if you watch it long enough, you're gonna watch people die. Yeah,

1935
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: now you're just gonna watch people die. The guy here,

1936
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: what was it twenty nineteen at the MGM National Harbor, BC,

1937
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: just across the water from me here? Maximum was his

1938
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: lesson glass Off? Was that his name something? Like that. Yeah, yeah,

1939
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, and this was about that was not It

1940
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: should have been stopped for sure, and it was bad,

1941
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like I've seen worse beating, you know,

1942
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: and I just went dude. Once you watch that, man,

1943
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: you get a much different appreciation for the the the

1944
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,839
Speaker 1: precariousness of all of the everyone's got like a balls

1945
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: out fuck you, I can overcome anything attitude and we're

1946
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 1: just we're just courting disaster.

1947
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Basically, it's apologies. It wasn't Maxim blastof who is another boxer.

1948
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: It was Maxim Dadashev and.

1949
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: Excuse me apologize for that. Yes it was a tough

1950
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: of my tongue. But you get the idea absolutely all

1951
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: right from at faheet Liam. Well, you know this guy

1952
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: is not from America when he's got Liam in his name.

1953
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't know a single Liam from the United States.

1954
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,879
Speaker 1: If you see Liam, where are they from England? Maybe

1955
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I guess the Australia something like that. Liam's one of

1956
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: those names where like the Americans just don't do that.

1957
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: We don't name anyone Liam, all right? If it's with

1958
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 1: four ounce gloves, BC does Fury speaking of Tyson Fury

1959
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: absolutely destroy Francis Saint Conner. Now, BC, you know this.

1960
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: He could be all just saying a bunch of bs.

1961
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: But he was asked about it recently. I think he

1962
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: was ringside for one of the fights this weekend. I

1963
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: think Smith.

1964
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: Fight, right, yeah, Liam Smith, Chrissy Yeah.

1965
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: And so they asked us and Fury about it, and

1966
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: he mentioned, I'd love to fight Francis Ngan who four

1967
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: once gloves. Let's make it spicy. What do you think, BC,

1968
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he would.

1969
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: I just wonder in this specific scenario, is he is

1970
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: he trying to push that narrative today to try to

1971
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: get Usik to take less in the contract that they're

1972
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: currently negotiating. I don't know, but I do you know. Look,

1973
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 2: we talked about it a lot in the past, Luke

1974
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: related to this in Ghanu situation. I do think Fury's

1975
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 2: crazy enough that he would almost want more danger in

1976
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: this because he knows the lure of more danger would

1977
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,679
Speaker 2: bring in more eyeballs. I wonder if he just feels

1978
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: like that'll get the best out of him. Let's go

1979
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: in there, I'll show you. You know, he always says

1980
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 2: there he comes from descendants of bare knuckle champions.

1981
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: So.

1982
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: The question there, though, seemed to be more from the viewer,

1983
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: more about how does that impact the fight? Do you

1984
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: think that doubles down on Fury's advantage or does it

1985
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: bring in Ghanu back in because there's less patting, Like,

1986
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: what are you say.

1987
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,799
Speaker 1: He brings in Ghanu back in a little bit, because

1988
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: especially if they mess with the rules with like dirty

1989
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: boxing and stuff, yeah, you know, because they they I mean,

1990
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: this is all very high in the sky, but I

1991
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: think that changes it. But I'll say this, the reason

1992
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 1: why I think that that matters is because you know,

1993
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: for for sure, Francis has not got power translates with

1994
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: four ounds close. I think it would probably translate with

1995
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: ten or twelve. But like, it's just a very sure thing.

1996
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: And dude, Tyson Fury gets you know all he does

1997
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: with that ducking and dodging and shit, but he takes risks.

1998
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes he gets hit. He gets hit. He's been dropped,

1999
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: you know many times. Uh and even a cruiserweight was

2000
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: it Steve Steve cutting him? Yeah, yeah, he dropped. He

2001
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: dropped Tyson Fury up.

2002
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 2: That's the square garden. Yeah, that was a shocking moment.

2003
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole ring shook it was.

2004
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: It was wild, see what I mean? So like Francis

2005
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: saying I would still bet on Tyson Fury to win

2006
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: or whatever, but yeah, it changes a little bit.

2007
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 2: Do you think Fury would rather do this than put

2008
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 2: his title on the line, Not because he's afraid to

2009
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: lose his title, but more like he's just thinking what's

2010
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 2: the best way we maximize eyeballs or money on this?

2011
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we were texting this morning, right,

2012
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: and you would introduce the idea that he could be

2013
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: saying this to put pressure on Usik to sign up

2014
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: quicker or you know, Uh, Tyson Fury likes to bullshit

2015
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: with the media, so you have to be very very careful.

2016
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know. He does seem to be interested.

2017
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: And if he goes up there BC, I'll say this,

2018
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: this is the question I would have for you. Actually,

2019
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: if he beats Usik? Am I wrong in thinking it

2020
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: makes the Francis Enghan who fight more likely?

2021
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I would believe that there's nothing stopping because

2022
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 2: there's nobody. There's nobody extreme waiting knocking on the door.

2023
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 2: I know, Joe Joyce just signed up to fight Wong

2024
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Jonggwai Lee. What's the guy's name John Jeong Joulais. I'm sorry,

2025
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 2: I got to go.

2026
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 1: You know.

2027
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 2: And if he wins that, let's say you called that.

2028
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look that he's going to be in play

2029
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: as well. If he keeps winning because of the you know,

2030
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 2: big crowd, he can draw in the UK. But AJ's

2031
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 2: not ready yet. So yeah, I think this is the

2032
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,719
Speaker 2: fight for Fury to go do something different, make money.

2033
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 2: And and you know, if they make it an exhibition

2034
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 2: with mixed rules, it doesn't touch his box, his real

2035
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 2: boxing side at all. And he so yeah, I think

2036
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 2: he does exactly that. There you go, all right, I

2037
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 2: gotta take a whiz so bad, luke. And I'm like,

2038
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: do I stop the show and take a whiz live.

2039
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: Or let me answer the wit? Hold on away?

2040
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, give the like thirty seconds to your life, all.

2041
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: Right, okay, okay, all right? So then we'll go to

2042
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: at Johanna Thin to Daren to Darien. I don't know

2043
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: how he pronounce this, but he says, we often praise

2044
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: the fighter with a good jab. What differentiates a good

2045
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: jab from a great jab? To me, it's just gonna

2046
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: be the variation of it is one thing? Right? How

2047
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: many different ways can he do it. How much offense

2048
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: can they set up behind it? Do they use their

2049
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: It's also not just the jab itself, but the lead

2050
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: hand acting as potentially hand trapping or pinning or aerol

2051
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: spence is the king of this. He blinds with it,

2052
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: he pins with it, he does, he pulls down with

2053
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: it with it, and then behind it. Hell jab to

2054
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 1: the body, He'll makes it the job to the head.

2055
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: It's like, in what ways is both the jab itself

2056
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: varied and valuable? To what extent? Does it stick? To

2057
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: what extent does it blind? How much variety is there

2058
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: in the use? Does it come from the hip? Does

2059
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: it come from the shoulder? Can they vary between the two?

2060
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: So a good job is one that can do some

2061
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 1: of those things that you can notice as actually reasonably

2062
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: affecting the contest or the round or any particular moment

2063
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 1: in the fight. A great job, to me is one

2064
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: that has a very dominating effect over the entirety of

2065
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: the fight. That a lot of these successful offense is

2066
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: built around it, and it usually happens when it's used

2067
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: in a variety of ways. When it can be both

2068
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: a timing jab, a power jab, a dipping jab, all

2069
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: different kinds of jobs, and that jab just has as

2070
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: this pronounced effect over the course of a contest. I

2071
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: don't know if there's one rule that separates them. Perhaps

2072
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,560
Speaker 1: individual boxing trainers have them, But to me, it's like,

2073
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: a good job is one that you can definitely use

2074
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 1: to win. A great job is one that really he

2075
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: defines the complexion of a fight. Youc would you disagree

2076
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 1: much with that?

2077
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the difference is used as a weapon.

2078
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's what I mean. Some is to blind,

2079
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: some is to power, you know, so some is to

2080
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: really genuinely hurt, Some is to trick. Some is to

2081
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: use it to pivot off. If you can do all so,

2082
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 1: you can do so many things by someone who knows

2083
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 1: what they're like an Arrol Spence to me, I mentioned

2084
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,799
Speaker 1: it with the pinning, the parrying, the blinding, the power

2085
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: to the body upstairs, putting everything else behind it. He's

2086
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: really really crafty.

2087
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have an educated job and be really

2088
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: smart and know how to use it to do different

2089
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 2: things and that makes it a great job. Or you

2090
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 2: could just have an old school power jab. Think Lennox

2091
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 2: lewis right, and that's a think Kannati glove can that's

2092
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 2: a weapon that you not only used to set up

2093
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 2: your power shots, but that is one of your power shots.

2094
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 2: So that's ultimately the difference. But yeah, Luke, I mean

2095
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of evolution that needs to take

2096
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 2: place in terms of boxing in the MMA space. Yes, yes,

2097
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 2: we're finally just see and some some you know, added

2098
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: wrinkles and certain guys or girls stand out more. But

2099
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: it's a long time coming.

2100
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: All right. And last but not least from at Kubbies

2101
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 1: Fan EIGHTYBC. Yes, since it's a wish you Were Here theme,

2102
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: what's the all time best song that clocks in over

2103
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: at ten minutes?

2104
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 2: So this is this is our boy, josh Am Luke.

2105
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 2: He's a big time listener here. He's the one who

2106
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 2: is the wish you Were Here album cover tattooed on

2107
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: him slash on the other arm. So I saw this

2108
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: come in over Twitter last night and I was like, ooh,

2109
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope the producers picked that. But he

2110
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 2: said the wish you were here thing because that was

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01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,600
Speaker 2: the did you see the album cover they put with

2112
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 2: our faces on it? They tweeted it.

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Speaker 1: Out, Luke, Yeah, it's pretty great.

2114
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's incredible. So I love this question, and

2115
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,440
Speaker 2: my knee jerk reaction is always going to be Integrata

2116
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 2: de Vita by Iron Butterfly, like seven minutes of hypnotic psychotic,

2117
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 2: you know, psychedelic rock. But I actually took the minute

2118
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 2: and looked at this, Luke, and I could have if

2119
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 2: you would ask me without looking up, I probably would

2120
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 2: have said like Cooma by Guns N' Roses or the

2121
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 2: End by the Doors. But here's my real favorite. I

2122
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 2: love these type of ideas songs that were written for

2123
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 2: the studio, performed and put on an album. They just

2124
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 2: happened to be long as shit ten minutes or more.

2125
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 2: You see that all the time in jazz, jazz fusion,

2126
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 2: even progressive rock, think like Yes and Rush. But in

2127
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 2: terms of regular rock, here I.

2128
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 1: Go, Luke.

2129
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 2: One Sunday Morning by Wilco Elton John's Funeral for a

2130
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 2: Friend slash Lovelies Bleeding, which is the first track on

2131
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 2: Goodbye the Elwick Road and is like Elton's attempt at

2132
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 2: doing like prog rock mixed with incredible jamming. Amazing Listen

2133
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 2: to the Lion by Van Morrison, Shine On You, Crazy

2134
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 2: Diamond by Pink Floyd, which is sort of the you

2135
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 2: know the influence in this question? How that's the first

2136
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,759
Speaker 2: and fifth track. Both of them are over five minutes,

2137
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 2: performed like a suite there and I got the low

2138
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 2: spark of high heeled Boys by Traffic and sad Eyed

2139
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 2: Lady of the Lowlands. If you're looking for a ballad

2140
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 2: from Bob Dylan Luke, do you have any you know,

2141
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: bite your tongue death metal classics here that clocked in

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01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 2: above ten, I.

2143
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: Would say you could do Stairway to Heaven led Zeppelin.

2144
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: I think that's over ten, right.

2145
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 2: I don't believe it is. I believe it's in the

2146
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 2: seven to eight area.

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01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Ooh. Then the only thing I know for sure, I mean,

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01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure about this. Stevie ray Vaughan has a cover

2149
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: of Voodoo chaw Yes and it's from Carnegie Hall, and

2150
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: I think that one is post ten minutes or right

2151
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: around it, and that one is.

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01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean, well, if we're bringing in live tracks, that

2154
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 2: changes the entire conversation. But if we're going by studio production,

2155
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: so yeah.

2156
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 1: Seven minute songs that are like over ten minutes, it's rare.

2157
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: Seven fifty five is the length on Stairway to Heaven.

2158
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 2: But it's it's you know, it's sort of in that

2159
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 2: category for sure. Great great question from our guy Josh

2160
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 2: right there, big time.

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01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: It is a music fan, and that great question leads

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01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: us now to a great portion of the show where

2163
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: we look at bc'specs Oh. Our producers write Freebird. You

2164
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,879
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here with Freebird.

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01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I don't think that is ten minutes,

2166
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 2: but if it was Lukey, it would be number one

2167
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: on the list. So maybe you can get the fuck

2168
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 2: out of here with free Bird, which is the greatest

2169
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 2: guitar solo in rock history, not because it's one solo

2170
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: here three it's three guitarists, and dude, when that when

2171
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 2: that when that solo kicks in in the second half

2172
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 2: of the song, Luke and they just go into the

2173
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 2: jam portion. Not only is that literally the greatest moment

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01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 2: in rock and roll history.

2175
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm all about I'm all about you know,

2176
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: Leonard Skinner talking about Hey, I hope Neil Young will

2177
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 1: remember a Southern man. Don't need him around anyhow. That

2178
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 1: was amazing. That was amazing, But it's not the greatest

2179
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: rock solo in history.

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01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're really missing this. So it's it's nine

2181
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 2: minutes and five seconds. You're really missing this because you're

2182
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 2: probably caught up on some memory of the chorus of

2183
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 2: the first half of the song mixed with your anti

2184
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 2: Southern politics because you know you grew up there half

2185
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 2: the time, so.

2186
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 1: I get that you old when he was shitting on

2187
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Neil Young.

2188
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 2: So my point is.

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01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 3: This, you're wrong.

2190
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 2: The guitar solo, I don't. I don't put it in

2191
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 2: the list of greatest guitar solos because it's three guitar

2192
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 2: players playing three separate solos mixed together. But it's Gary

2193
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 2: ro Wasshington does the most insane part. Oh it's it's

2194
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: it's incredible, Luke, but it's not ten minutes. So I

2195
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: was gonna tell you that I had a keyed up

2196
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 2: at my wedding. You know, when they announced the wedding

2197
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 2: party and you come into like the reception hall.

2198
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 1: Was this was this before or after someone played Cotton

2199
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Eye Joe.

2200
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 2: Well before, because that was a big hit on the

2201
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 2: dance floor, Luke. After, But I had a queue up where,

2202
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: you know, right when we opened the door and they

2203
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 2: said for the first time the guitar so on Freebird

2204
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,719
Speaker 2: kicked in with the three guitars and you know.

2205
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: I a little bit. So how long is November Rain?

2206
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 2: That is not ten, but that would have been on

2207
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 2: my list. I believe it's in the lower nines or highest.

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01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: Age that's up there, that's up there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, look though, those are those epic,

2210
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: sweet type of songs that just they're they're great, so

2211
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 2: many good ones in rock history.

2212
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well take us through. So you're so

2213
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: many eight to fifty five for November Rain? Who okay,

2214
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 1: take us through your BC specs.

2215
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I scoured the globe this weekend like I always do,

2216
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 2: but I didn't do it last week though, to uh,

2217
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 2: you know, search highs and lows, the in between, the good, bad,

2218
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 2: the ugly, all that and combat sports and a lot

2219
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: from beyond. They call this. Have you seen this shit?

2220
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Out out?

2221
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh god. So look, you didn't go to like,

2222
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, some guy playing guitar at a bar and

2223
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 2: try to yell out freebird and then he's like, here's

2224
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 2: a free bird. Like you didn't. You didn't do that exchange,

2225
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 2: You didn't.

2226
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: No, I'm not totally brain damaged.

2227
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. UFC two eighty three Luke

2228
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 2: from he Oh uh did you see mel Quiziel Costa

2229
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 2: uh going ham with Bruce Buffer during the introduction ahead

2230
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 2: of his UFC debut.

2231
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have saved some of the energy. Uh.

2232
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't go his way in the end, but

2233
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 2: that that's about as fired up as I've seen someone get.

2234
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean going nose to nose with Buff there. That's

2235
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 2: that's interesting. All right, Look, you're I hope you hit

2236
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:04,919
Speaker 2: your brothers parlay on Saturday because ishmael bone theme stopped

2237
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 2: me from another bad or kept me going down the

2238
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 2: road to bad picks. In our pick segment here, what

2239
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 2: do you did to Terrence McKinney was just, oh god,

2240
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 2: that was gnarly.

2241
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean fooled him with the right knee and

2242
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: then sent him into the land of wind and ghosts

2243
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: with a left good night.

2244
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 2: I hope McKinney's okay. We know he's gonna come back

2245
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 2: and look to throw big book.

2246
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Ye to make up his dispute with Barstool Sports.

2247
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know the origin of it, but I saw

2248
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: them send him to hell on Twitter.

2249
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So basically what happened was, I guess one of

2250
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: their guys picked against him. Nothing like too bad from

2251
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: what I could see. I could be wrong with what

2252
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: I saw. It was just you know, standard he's not

2253
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna win types, and he didn't take too kindly to that. Fighters.

2254
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: Please don't like find people saying things about you on

2255
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Twitter that you don't have to respond. It's just too

2256
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: much bandwidth to give to someone. But in any case, yeah,

2257
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 1: I guess he responded to it. And then he gets

2258
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: knocked out like this, and then Robbie Fox, of all

2259
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 1: people who I know, put up a headline being like,

2260
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, despite challenging Barstool Sports, he gets knocked out

2261
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: and you know, the first round poor formed by barstool or.

2262
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 2: Not, Yeah, it is, but that's sort of there. They're

2263
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 2: laying in some degree too, and it gets them attention,

2264
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 2: and you know they're already they're already in a gray

2265
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 2: area in MMA space to begin with, because you know

2266
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 2: there their former journalism is you know, open celebration and cheering.

2267
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 2: And you and I have met Robbie Fox. He's actually

2268
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 2: really cool. It's like you wanna you want to almost

2269
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 2: not like him, but he's really cool. So I have

2270
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 2: respect for a hustle and who he is. But you know,

2271
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 2: you got they they bought in on Patty and they like,

2272
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,719
Speaker 2: they literally bought in on Patty and uh and Molly

2273
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 2: me Paul. So it's a different space. But yeah, I

2274
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: also don't like that. And you know, the kind of

2275
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,600
Speaker 2: celebrating on this guy getting class. You know, look a

2276
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 2: guy that goes in the Cajun gives us all and

2277
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 2: gets knocked cold. Yeah, we may celebrate that here and

2278
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 2: have you seen the ship? But you know, I'd never

2279
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 2: want to go to that next level of like, you know,

2280
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 2: claw clowning somebody for going in there and giving their all. Like,

2281
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 2: are you kidding me?

2282
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't I didn't agree with it,

2283
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: but I will say that like that was them getting

2284
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,879
Speaker 1: something of a taste of what it's like in bigger sports,

2285
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: because we have this sort of treatment where MMA fighters,

2286
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, they get savage, don't get me, don't

2287
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but not so much by the press

2288
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 1: relative to what NFL players get by the NFL press

2289
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 1: or what NBA players get by the NBA press. I mean,

2290
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: they get a lot more scrutiny, but it's usually a

2291
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 1: little bit softer.

2292
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 2: How about this SoC harder?

2293
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry say again.

2294
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 2: Soccer press is crazy too, right.

2295
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,560
Speaker 1: They're oh, they're insane. They'll call you a bummed, disloyal

2296
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: piece of trash like I mean, they go crazy. But

2297
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: what point I want to make was I didn't agree

2298
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 1: with it. I would never ride a headline like that.

2299
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: But you know that's what it's like if I mean,

2300
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 1: they would do that. If it was if an NFL

2301
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: player went at them on Twitter and then you know,

2302
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 1: got a quarterback and then got sacked and pulled out

2303
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: of the game, they'd hammer them. They'd hammer them.

2304
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 2: So well, unless I see Barstools showing up, you know,

2305
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 2: courtside like and acting as hard as Shannon Sharp, I

2306
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 2: won't to have respect for him. And Sharp goes hard

2307
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 2: on there to take all the receipts season you want

2308
01:43:55,920 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 2: to cash them. Right now, I'm here, bro Okay.

2309
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty five years old and looks like

2310
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,839
Speaker 1: he could bench press the earth. I mean, he's just shocking.

2311
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 2: He brings a different flavor to this hot take business

2312
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 2: that we're in Luke, where he'll actually show up at

2313
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: your game and be willing to tell you about it.

2314
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: Was one of the greatest tight ends ever, you know,

2315
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 1: winning player like, yeah, he's great.

2316
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Bruno the Hulk Fajeda Luke

2317
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 2: heavyweight making his UFC debut, not a heavyweight. Excuse me, Luke.

2318
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 2: This ko one at RoboCop was like, damn.

2319
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Bro Yeah, this one surprised me too, RoboCop I thought

2320
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: was winning this fight, but this is commonly what happens.

2321
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: So I picked a RoboCop to win because what was

2322
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: happening before this happens a lot with him where he

2323
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: was getting touched up and he kind of switches stances

2324
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: a lot more than his advisable and he gets kind

2325
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 1: of like he's a little bit loose with his positioning,

2326
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: but he's clever too. Watch the finish one more time.

2327
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 1: I want you to pay attention to something. He uses

2328
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 1: the fake of the right hook right there to step

2329
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 1: closer and show it one more time if you can

2330
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: pay attention to the right foot of Fajita right let's

2331
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: running back. He's gonna step. Watch him step to the outside.

2332
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: So he's here. He uses this hook to take a

2333
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 1: step forward and to the outside, which creates a direct

2334
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 1: lane for the left right. Watch him dip step and

2335
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,640
Speaker 1: go wow, it's nice, nice, nice work from him. You can.

2336
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 2: As you mentioned last week, he had look good in

2337
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: that Contender series. Dude, this was a night for everyone

2338
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 2: Brazilian to come out and make something happen. Luke, you know,

2339
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean there was there was literally a Brazilian fighter

2340
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 2: in every fight, and two of the fights had had

2341
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 2: you know, country versus country.

2342
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 1: There a lot of you would have thought that the Brazilians

2343
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: and attendance would have been happier, but I guess not.

2344
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 2: Dude. We may have to re examine our Hammer of

2345
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 2: the month and d Bruno Fajeda to.

2346
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 1: This too, Luke, Yeah, he's he's on that list.

2347
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 2: Well does do you take him off after this celebration dance? Luke?

2348
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 2: This is what I really want to know.

2349
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: Is it some kind of samba that I don't know?

2350
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I don't know, but uh,

2351
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:58,959
Speaker 2: it was a little surprising.

2352
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: Is a fait a fortnight dance? I should know about being?

2353
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 2: Hey, have your moment, Bruno. Okay, we're not we're not

2354
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 2: supposed to talk about that.

2355
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 1: Hey. In fairness, that fucker came in on less than

2356
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 1: two weeks notice to put out RoboCop with one point, yeah, the.

2357
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 2: Whole he's the hulk indeed, Hey, Johnny Walker at a

2358
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: big win stopped Paul Craig. Craig, excuse me, Paul Craig,

2359
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:17,839
Speaker 2: and uh, Luke.

2360
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: Can we stop that? It's craig? I mean, I'm sorry,

2361
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: it's our word too, it's craig.

2362
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it's our word too. It's it's at

2363
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 2: assoying you.

2364
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

2365
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 2: Look that's our word.

2366
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 1: Two. Okay, do you know people not stupid? This is

2367
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: you getting the argument exactly backwards. Do you know people

2368
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 1: here from America and name that? Of course you know,

2369
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: motherfucker it's from Nigeria. That's the point.

2370
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not people name I know people named Grasso.

2371
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 2: I can call her that, all right.

2372
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 1: I know? But see, I don't once again, not understand

2373
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 1: the argument. I admit I got that one wrong. That

2374
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: one's grosslow, I get that one wrong.

2375
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 2: Look do you understand this argument? Johnny Walker was so

2376
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 2: excited that he stopped Paul Craig and he showed us

2377
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 2: the full money. Anybody wants some can get some. Luke.

2378
01:46:58,360 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 2: The whole team helped out.

2379
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 1: Can we get I mean, can he stop gyrating and

2380
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 1: cavorting like an Instagram thought on his way to the

2381
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: cage please, I would really, I mean, dude, less Johnny Walker,

2382
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 1: look at me, less of your dick and balls would

2383
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: be great. Okay, what do you guys?

2384
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 2: What do you think about? On Wednesday, February eighth, Luke

2385
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 2: at King's Place in London. If when they announced me

2386
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 2: to come out for the live show that I got

2387
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 2: our cameramen holding holding me like this as I'm in

2388
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 2: a speedo with.

2389
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: Uh, it's gonna have to be the cameraman because it's

2390
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: not going to be me.

2391
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Louke, there you go. Walker also celebrated with

2392
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 2: his worm dance. He didn't do the full dive that

2393
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 2: hurt his shoulder last time, and DC still called him

2394
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 2: out anyway.

2395
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 1: But uh, he's going to be an act like you

2396
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: got to be kidding me with this.

2397
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh. If you act like that in public,

2398
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 2: what is he like in the sheets? Luke?

2399
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: That's the question, right, Why don't why don't you go

2400
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: bang him and find out?

2401
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey, speaking of Johnny Walker, he's strong as shit, Luke,

2402
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 2: Why don't you why don't you comment on this six

2403
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one pound deadlift he pulled off?

2404
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Did you see this se let's see him. So it's

2405
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,600
Speaker 1: not really a deadlift. It's a trapbar deadlift, which is

2406
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: not the same.

2407
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 2: Luke, I don't know a wristlock from a wristwatch.

2408
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's see because he said his lats sort

2409
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: of not really, Let's see he's strong, but that's not

2410
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: a real that doesn't really prove he can do six

2411
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 1: to sixty one.

2412
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 2: Phil Simms would kick your ass for how you talked

2413
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 2: a bad about his pull ups.

2414
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, you can Okay, here's the Luke Thomas challenge. Please

2415
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: go find between now and Wednesday, show a deadlift expert

2416
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: who tells you I'm wrong that that's the same as

2417
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: deadlifting from a conventional bar illus straight across versus the

2418
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,759
Speaker 1: handle position being this way from the side. It's actually

2419
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,759
Speaker 1: more of a squat than it is a traditional deadlift

2420
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: because it's a hex bar. You don't know what you're

2421
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: talking about. BC.

2422
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 2: If Ronnie Coleman says gloves are just fine with him, Luke,

2423
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue with the man.

2424
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: Okay, ninety nine percent of the other industry would tell

2425
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: me he's you know, he's not wrong, but it's needless.

2426
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 2: Luke. We mentioned it early wah. What a moment there

2427
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 2: in the Showbox main event, a triple header from Bethlehem, Pennsylvania,

2428
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 2: to kick off the twenty twenty three season. The show

2429
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 2: has been going every year since two thousand and one,

2430
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 2: bringing in prospect versus prospect, in this case unbeaten David

2431
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Stevens against unbeaten Sean Hemphill Luke. At the time that

2432
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 2: round eighth, the final round, kicked off, we didn't know

2433
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 2: who was ahead on the cards. This fight was in

2434
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 2: the balance and Ronnie Shield's coach Dan Stevens eleven and

2435
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 2: oh coming in from down the street in Reading, Pennsylvania,

2436
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 2: gave us a magical moment. Let's go back and relive

2437
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 2: it here.

2438
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 3: Here's the audio.

2439
01:49:54,400 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 5: Six seven, Tom Finisher, you want to tell you walk

2440
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 5: this one the third time heap Hill's been down as

2441
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:04,600
Speaker 5: a professional.

2442
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 2: You gonna want to go on.

2443
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 3: Hephill was done. Not gonna take that, Johnson.

2444
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 4: We got line.

2445
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 2: In Bethlehem. That's how you make your name known in

2446
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 2: a star stunted division at one hundred and sixty eight

2447
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 2: College twenty two.

2448
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: That was magic, Joe, Is that you talking over everyone? There?

2449
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 2: Are you surprised? Now? Gret loved loved my broadcast team

2450
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 2: as always, Steve Farhood, Barry Tompkins, Reland Marquez. You heard

2451
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 2: us on there, But Luke Berry Timer was.

2452
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: A great call. It was a great call. I'm teasing you.

2453
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 2: I can't say this enough about my colleague. He was

2454
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 2: my He was the first boxing announcer I ever knew

2455
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 2: in the eighties when I got into this sport. Barry

2456
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 2: Tompkins back then working for HBO, the ESPN, I mean,

2457
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 2: he's worked everywhere. Luke, he was the voice of boxing

2458
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 2: for me as a kid. You may remember, Luke. He

2459
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 2: was the voice of boxing and Rocky four. He called

2460
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 2: Drago versus Balboa there to be in the spot I'm

2461
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: in in my career now and be blessed to do

2462
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 2: this job and to have him sitting next to me

2463
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 2: at eighty two years old, and you heard how good

2464
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 2: his fastball still is right there in the big moment, man,

2465
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 2: that was a special time on Friday night and it

2466
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 2: was you know, it was a great fight and Twitter

2467
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 2: was buzzing and it's just another great moment and Showbox's

2468
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two year history there. But dude, that's

2469
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: what you know. I texted you after that's a that's

2470
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 2: a different kind of drug being right in the midst

2471
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 2: of that, you know what I mean?

2472
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 1: Having a two seconds, two seconds left in the bout

2473
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:42,839
Speaker 1: two seconds?

2474
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 2: Who remind you why you love the sport? It really does.

2475
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 2: It's one of those moments, right.

2476
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: Although I will say this about the referee, I appreciated

2477
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: that because you see this, I'm told that Muaytai referees

2478
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: are actually very gifted at this. They're very gifted at

2479
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:59,719
Speaker 1: catching the falling like kaote or whatever fighter's head before

2480
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 1: it can slam into the mat, that can kind of

2481
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: catch their fall. And he did that here, which I

2482
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 1: thought was very impressive. The one thing he did in

2483
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 1: do BC, which I was I didn't know the fight

2484
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: could have been stopped the first time. I made it

2485
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: more dramatic in the end that he didn't. And again

2486
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: he did catch the guy. But like typically, and I'm

2487
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: not a trained boxing referee, but one thing I always

2488
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 1: always watched for them to do is they'll take the

2489
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: risks of the boxer. They'll kind of shake him to

2490
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: see how sturdy the response is, and then a lot

2491
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: of times they'll back up and say walk to me.

2492
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,640
Speaker 1: He didn't ask him to walk to him, and so

2493
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: hamp Hill was still kind of lean and gangster ling.

2494
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:32,640
Speaker 2: He said he made it take a step to the

2495
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: side instead, he made him take a step to the side.

2496
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean, way, if you're balancing against

2497
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 1: the ropes though it doesn't to me, it doesn't count

2498
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: like you gotta be able to move off of him

2499
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 1: and he paid for it.

2500
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 2: But I think that was referee awareness because you know,

2501
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 2: you could have stopped after the first knockdown. And there

2502
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 2: were a lot of people that came out on Twitter

2503
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,759
Speaker 2: and said that was Sean Clark, the referee from Pennsylvania.

2504
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 2: A lot of people came out and said, you know,

2505
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 2: all we should have done this, should have done that.

2506
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 2: But if even though the time shouldn't factor in, meaning

2507
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 2: when everyone remembers not ninety hey, who's Julio says our

2508
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 2: Java senior against Meldrick Taylor, Taylor winning until the final

2509
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 2: ten seconds and you know, Chavez knocks him down and

2510
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: he gets up and Richard Steele looks in his eyes

2511
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 2: and there's you know, two seconds left and the clock

2512
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 2: three seconds left whatever it was, and Steel's like, no,

2513
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm stopping the fight. You don't you know you don't

2514
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 2: look right, and people are killing him. Going, man, you

2515
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 2: got to know the situation. There's you know, if if

2516
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 2: that goes the distance two more seconds, Taylor wins the fight,

2517
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 2: and the truth call should be that time shouldn't take part.

2518
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:29,799
Speaker 2: The true call should be if you look at somebody

2519
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 2: and they're done. I do wonder if that was the

2520
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 2: ref though, just going okay, he looks, he looks good enough.

2521
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Let's see if he can finish. There's two seconds left,

2522
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 2: and boy, he got you know, he got caught with

2523
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 2: a whirlwind combination there. But the referee catching him. I mean,

2524
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 2: does that make up for it? Luke, he was he

2525
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 2: was a little liberal and let him go, but then

2526
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 2: he caught him.

2527
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I would say is, I don't know if

2528
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: it makes up for it, but it certainly shows that, like,

2529
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,919
Speaker 1: you know, we have to be careful with our criticism

2530
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: of the referee. I think in general he did a

2531
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,799
Speaker 1: fine job. I think the last part of the judgment

2532
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: was questionable, but it shows you that he caught him.

2533
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't if he had, like just say,

2534
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 1: to keep going and just let him crash through the

2535
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 1: ropes or something, that would have been bad. But he

2536
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: was there, he was on top of it. Questionable call,

2537
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 1: but not not a terrible one.

2538
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: Now that the guy who won, David Stevens. I had

2539
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 2: him ahead by a point entering the final round. Most people, though,

2540
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 2: had hemp Hill ahead and so most people thought that

2541
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 2: was Stevens rallying from the brink to save the fight.

2542
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 2: Turns out he was up by three points on all

2543
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 2: three judges scorecards, so it was like the draw. I

2544
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 2: don't want to say the dramma was unnecessary. You know,

2545
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: you know, neither fighter knows in that moment what's going on,

2546
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: but they both put it in their hands and had

2547
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 2: a great round and a great finish to that fight. Damn, damn,

2548
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 2: you love that stuff. So we'll see what David Stevens

2549
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 2: can do. He's only had twelve pro fights, just twenty

2550
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: two years old. But that's a big knock on the

2551
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 2: door of the bigger names than the division down the road.

2552
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going boxing this weekend. We didn't preview it.

2553
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 2: Luca probably should have, but Liam Beefey Smith and Chris

2554
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: Eubank Junior had a crazy, trash talk filled lead up

2555
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 2: to their fight, and surprisingly enough, Liam Smith, who we

2556
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 2: know he won, a title at one fifty four, but

2557
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 2: he's up at a bigger way to get some much

2558
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 2: bigger puncher. Dude. He sent you Bank to hell here

2559
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: and rolh fod to take the upset ko victory. Are

2560
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 2: you moved at all?

2561
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: Luke? See he made him walk to him, although that

2562
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: wasn't much better. He falls over again, but he doesn't count.

2563
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 1: Does he count him here? No? He just waves it. Okay, Yeah,

2564
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I was surprised. I didn't. I wasn't

2565
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: surprised Smith won, but I was surprised he stopped him

2566
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: and was it four?

2567
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely absolutely? And you know Liam had accused uh

2568
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 2: had accused Chris you Bank junior of being gay leading

2569
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 2: up to it and the press conference I got a

2570
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 2: little messy there, and then you know, you Bank came

2571
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: out with a gay Pride armband on during the way in,

2572
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 2: which was a nice nod back. And then he accused

2573
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 2: Liam Smith of cheating on his wife. Luka got pretty gross,

2574
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 2: but everybody.

2575
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: Was again, this is what I mean. It's like everyone

2576
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 1: killing Jamo Hill. I'm not saying you shouldn't kill him,

2577
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, which one of these guys

2578
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have retro grade ideas. I'm still trying to figure

2579
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 1: that out.

2580
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 2: And you know, the experiment that's going on with Chris

2581
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 2: you Bank Junior with Roy Jones Junior as his trainer,

2582
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't love it this time. It's

2583
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 2: just like, you know, very few people can be Roy

2584
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 2: Jones because of how just incredibly blessed he was athletically

2585
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 2: and how hard he worked on his craft, and he

2586
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 2: just did things that you know, you would never advise

2587
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 2: of a young boxer to do. Chances, he took positions

2588
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 2: he put him in because it's Roy Jones, and his

2589
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 2: quick twitch fiber was insane. You know, Chris you Bank's

2590
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 2: a good athlete and he can punch, but he did

2591
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,879
Speaker 2: need an overhaul. Yeah, he did need a style overhaul.

2592
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 2: But what he really needs is a pure boxing style.

2593
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 2: He got really far on just being a barbaric puncher,

2594
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 2: and you know, this transition is just not working. I

2595
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what he has left, Luke.

2596
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 2: He's still young, but I don't know how.

2597
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure either.

2598
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Hey, let's transition into when there's a pinata

2599
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 2: involved in and we laugh a lot, and this segment usually, Luke,

2600
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 2: here we go, this is great. Oh, right to the

2601
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 2: pills and then he got a then he got to

2602
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 2: soak him there and the uh.

2603
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: And then there's a woman's ass who I definitely was. Dude.

2604
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 2: This lady went like full you know, three two count

2605
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 2: type of cut on that, Luke. She went She didn't

2606
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: have a blindfold either.

2607
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Hey, why don't you go party in more indoor pools

2608
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 1: when it's bright and sunny outside? You fuckohes, Well, that's

2609
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 1: Florida living, Luke.

2610
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Hey, let's go to the karate uh

2611
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 2: karate show here? You like this, Luke when they break.

2612
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 1: Boards and ship No, not really? Oh shit.

2613
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 2: Look at a guy in the background. What is he doing, Luke.

2614
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 1: He's doing kettlebell cleans. So those are kettlebell cleans.

2615
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 2: Hur the event? What is he playing?

2616
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: So that was a snatch? He just did a snatch. Yeah,

2617
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: he's doing kettlebell snatches.

2618
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 2: All right, I guess. So this is like the This

2619
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 2: looks like a like a high school talent show or something.

2620
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 2: Damn that guy got served. Wow, Okay, here we go. Hey.

2621
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Combat sports stars have varying reactions to when you were

2622
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 2: a statue of them. Luke Deontay Wilder visited his statue

2623
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 2: in Tuscaluska.

2624
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 1: Is he still having sex with that statue? Yeah? He is.

2625
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 2: So he made out with it when they when they

2626
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: you know, unveiled it, and he went back to get

2627
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 2: some inspiration. And I mean, you know, it's his statue, Luke,

2628
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 2: you can do whatever he wants to it. But he

2629
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 2: gets very intimate with it, you know. I you know,

2630
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 2: that's just that's second base where I come from. Luke.

2631
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you there's something going on here, deeply psychological,

2632
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure I really understand what it is,

2633
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 1: but it's intense. Yeah, that's just the same. That's right,

2634
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 1: it really, dude, that statue meant everything to him. I

2635
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 1: will say that.

2636
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to MMA. GSP got one in his hometown

2637
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 2: of Saint Isidore, Quebec. We've seen him there before, Luke,

2638
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 2: but he went back recently to put that. The other

2639
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 2: GSP and r NC that's a little different than what

2640
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 2: Deontay did, but you know it's still intimate. Luke still

2641
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 2: pretty aggressive.

2642
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 1: Did he did he squeeze the nipples of this one?

2643
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 2: I bet you, I bet you they were harder than

2644
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 2: a Witch's tit Luke Okay, Colin both don't know.

2645
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 1: There was a while where everyone on Team Jackson's, including

2646
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 1: our own shot Evans, when Buffer would be calling their

2647
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: names like and fighting out of Albuquerque, New Mexico, and

2648
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 1: George San Pierre would do it too. They would tweak

2649
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 1: their nipples to turn like the high beams on or whatever. Yeah,

2650
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 1: and uh and it was fucking weird.

2651
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 2: It is it is weird, hey, good transition to more weirdness.

2652
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 2: BKFC had some gnarly press conference moments in the last week. Uh,

2653
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 2: this was the promotion announcing knuckle Mania three that's coming

2654
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 2: in February, and Lorenzo Haunt and Mike Richmond, they had

2655
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 2: a moment here, let's watch.

2656
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: Take that fake ass gold off.

2657
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 2: I can see the green on your skin right here.

2658
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 6: Blah blah blah. I don't know why you took this fight.

2659
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 6: I don't know why they sanctioned this fight. This is

2660
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 6: a terrible because I think that's why. I just I

2661
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 6: just you can see what Mike Christmas is up against.

2662
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 6: Take different totally different people, take different men, two different

2663
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 6: weight classes, two different monsters.

2664
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 1: He should have stayed.

2665
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 2: If you if you got you can't be that stupid.

2666
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: You can't be that stupid. You're stupid.

2667
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 2: And oh boy, oh boy, where's Steve Shaler when you're.

2668
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 1: Looke?

2669
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 2: Does that make you want to order the paper view?

2670
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 1: No? I can't say that it does. But I feel

2671
02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:00,280
Speaker 1: like this is what should happen by law at every

2672
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 1: v KFC presser.

2673
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 2: I think so.

2674
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't know the general, by the way, former marine.

2675
02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 2: Yes, uh not an next one, that's for sure. Remember

2676
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 2: that dude, Clay Burns, he's a he's a boxer. His

2677
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 2: nickname is third degree Burns. He wears like Marines, uh

2678
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 2: colored inspired boxing out. He was on the show Box undercard.

2679
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 2: Remember we saw that dude that time in Brooklyn.

2680
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, I do, yes.

2681
02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 2: That guy reps the Marines hard Clay Burns all right,

2682
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 2: uh luke? Then Hector Lombard won on Friday or Saturday whenever.

2683
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 2: This fight card was in Florida and some dude came

2684
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 2: out and pulled the pro wrestling run in. I don't

2685
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 2: even know this guy's name. Maybe you can tell me.

2686
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 2: Let's watch this and you see a clown jumps over

2687
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 2: the fantasy and you know, thank you what you gotta do.

2688
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, you gotta do the same thing.

2689
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:43,880
Speaker 2: You shot your fucking mouse.

2690
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 1: You shot your fucking mouse.

2691
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 7: Nobody don't want to hear you talk.

2692
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,600
Speaker 2: Look who was that? That wasn't look that was in

2693
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 2: uh Lorenzo Hull.

2694
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know who that was. I mean I

2695
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 1: saw Luis Palomino putting the table back together, shouts the

2696
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: Luis Palomino and uh yeah. I mean this just feels like.

2697
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,400
Speaker 2: This is like this promotion is the equivalent of like

2698
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 2: the movie Roadhouse, Luke, Remember when Jeff Healy band was

2699
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 2: in the They.

2700
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 1: Should just make it like real pro wrestling, And what

2701
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean by that is the fights are real whatever,

2702
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: but then just sell it being like, Yo, this guy

2703
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: bang so and So's wife. You know, it's really why

2704
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:38,520
Speaker 1: they're they're angry at each other. You know.

2705
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go back to one championship, Luke. They had

2706
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 2: a bantam weight muy Thai title bout involving you know

2707
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:47,720
Speaker 2: this guy nong Oh.

2708
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, nong Oh is is a is a horse man.

2709
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: This guy is a fucking beast.

2710
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 2: Look what he did to Alaverdi ramzan Off.

2711
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah he uh, he did terrible things to him. Four

2712
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 1: hours muy Thai in the it was. This was in

2713
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:05,280
Speaker 1: Lampini Stadium, which is like, you know, a cathedral to

2714
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 1: the sport of muy Tai. That in the Roga Dominan Stadium,

2715
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, he hurt him bad. He hurt him

2716
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 1: real fucking.

2717
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 2: Bad, dude. He folded him off.

2718
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 3: Man.

2719
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't play, he doesn't play.

2720
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn. All right, Hey, look it's time to rate

2721
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 2: that tat that always gets you fired up. Israel Adisnia

2722
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:32,040
Speaker 2: has added both a neck and face tat to the collection. Uh,

2723
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 2: I gotta get your thoughts here.

2724
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 1: So the neck tat I like a lot. Actually it's

2725
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 1: really well done. I do like the neck tat, but

2726
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of the face tats. Now,

2727
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 1: I will say this, if you're going to get him,

2728
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 1: getting them on the curvature of the eyebrow is actually

2729
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:53,760
Speaker 1: a fairly unique way to hide it.

2730
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 2: Mike Perry has that.

2731
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 1: Mike Perry has it also. I guess he's got one

2732
02:03:57,800 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 1: on the right side of his eye. Now, maybe I'm

2733
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: misreading that. Yeah, I'm not for the face I'm in

2734
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 1: and when it matches the facial structure and it's kind

2735
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 1: of on the perimeter of the face, I don't mind that,

2736
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 1: but when you start getting into like the center of

2737
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: the face, that's when I don't really like it.

2738
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:16,840
Speaker 2: That's aggressive. Yeah, it's very aggressive, but he's about that life, Luke.

2739
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:19,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so the neck tat is sick like them.

2740
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:22,600
Speaker 2: But if he got a circle around his right nipple,

2741
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 2: would you like just to say, like, I'm in on

2742
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 2: the joke. Would you be into that?

2743
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 1: Nah? Because then it's a little too like owning the

2744
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 1: joke too much at that point.

2745
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 2: Luke, I've been told that we have mister heboss potential

2746
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 2: for the next one, but this will be up to you.

2747
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 2: You know, Amanda Serrano's brother in law, slash trainer slash manager,

2748
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:41,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Maldonado.

2749
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

2750
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 2: He got a tattoo based on a kind of like

2751
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 2: a motivation bet that if Amanda unified titles in her

2752
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 2: last fight, he would get her on one arm and

2753
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 2: get both sisters and he's married to Amanda's older sister

2754
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 2: on the other.

2755
02:04:56,720 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, well, it's fresh, so I see how it's purplish,

2756
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 1: so we need to see how it's gonna heal. Don't

2757
02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:09,720
Speaker 1: love it. Parts of it are okay, but don't love.

2758
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 2: You go back to the other one here Long Island, Luke.

2759
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one I really don't like. It's way too dark.

2760
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:23,880
Speaker 1: And I will just say this, Getting portrait work like

2761
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: that is you have to have a really really really

2762
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 1: really special person do that the correct way. And I

2763
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 1: just don't feel like people pay top dollar for it

2764
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 1: like they should.

2765
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 2: Okay, if I ever get you or you and I

2766
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 2: on me Luke with the MK logo, I want Sean

2767
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 2: Brady's guy.

2768
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:43,920
Speaker 1: So it's funny you mentioned that. Actually, Sean Brady I

2769
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 1: have been talking. I think that guy's gonna end up

2770
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:46,360
Speaker 1: doing my sleeve.

2771
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 2: Which arm, my left arm.

2772
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 1: That's why my right arm has like bits and pieces

2773
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 1: and stuff and this one has nothing. I'm left handed.

2774
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 1: I've actually been saving everything for a single sleeve.

2775
02:05:57,560 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 2: Have you been inspired at all by our cameraman on

2776
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 2: More Combat Tristan completing his sleeve on his left.

2777
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 1: Arm, Yes, but I don't know if he got his

2778
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 1: like it runs the full length of his sleeve. But

2779
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like a sleeve design. It

2780
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 1: just is a bunch of designs that like ended up

2781
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of becoming a sleeve.

2782
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:15,720
Speaker 2: The way he connected it was cool, though there's a

2783
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 2: lot of spirit animal on that.

2784
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he put some thought into it. Don't

2785
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 1: misunderstand me. He clearly puts some thought into it. But

2786
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. Also, his is black and gray.

2787
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:24,680
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm not I'm gonna get Japanese.

2788
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 2: Okay, if you don't love that last one, you're bound

2789
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 2: to love this one. Do you remember former heavyweight boxing

2790
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:33,400
Speaker 2: title challenger Arthur Spilk of Poland he got knocked out

2791
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:38,880
Speaker 2: by Yeah, Luke, he went the full ass, the full thing.

2792
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 2: He did it, Luke.

2793
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:42,879
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll say this, it's a really well done tattoo.

2794
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 1: So really well done tattoo. I just got to tell you,

2795
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 1: like the marijuana leaf with the Hanya mask, with the raiding,

2796
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 1: it's a little much for me. I'll just it.

2797
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot about it that's much. I mean, that's

2798
02:06:56,200 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 2: that's creeping up the old uh you know, I mean

2799
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm not into that. It's not just not my thing.

2800
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even that.

2801
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 1: It's like the Honya mask, like with the negative spacing

2802
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 1: of the marijuana leaf. It's well done, but it's like artistically,

2803
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 1: who the fuck would want that on their back?

2804
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 2: Well, even even the direction that you love which is

2805
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 2: this not maybe not this tattoo, but this style I.

2806
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 1: Like traditional Japanese. This is this is I don't even.

2807
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 2: Mean I don't even mean the technique or the color

2808
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:28,240
Speaker 2: of the patterns. I mean just putting a scheme down

2809
02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 2: your lower back in ass. To me, Unless I'm a

2810
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:34,480
Speaker 2: professional fighter where I'm always showing, you know, from my

2811
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 2: waist up bare back all the time, then it's really

2812
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:38,720
Speaker 2: part of your uniform and you can make it look

2813
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 2: bad ass. But if I'm me, Luke, average Joe, who's

2814
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 2: gonna look at my ass, I'm not showing it off.

2815
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 2: Why am I going to waste the pain, money, time

2816
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 2: to put in this? Luke? Is this guy been so.

2817
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 1: You could see the dead bodies of conquered their showguns

2818
02:07:54,440 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: that you have ostensibly slayed?

2819
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 2: Well, I even have that question to ask about anybody.

2820
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 1: Full screen put it back full screen. Those are those

2821
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 1: are the it's an army of dead showguns. He's either

2822
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 1: leading or he's killed. I think he's killed.

2823
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 2: Okay, but seriously answer me this. If I'm getting a tattoo,

2824
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 2: it's for me because I want it to look cool.

2825
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 2: I want other people to see it, and when I

2826
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:15,960
Speaker 2: look at it, I want to like, you know, whatever

2827
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 2: emotional connection I'm building there, I want to feel it. Right.

2828
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 2: But if I put something on my back and I

2829
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:24,200
Speaker 2: don't regularly have my shirt off, explain that, Luke. Explain

2830
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:25,080
Speaker 2: why that's.

2831
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 1: Awesome because it more naturally fits the body in the

2832
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:31,880
Speaker 1: way Japanese suits will go either through the buttocks, through

2833
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:33,480
Speaker 1: the back of the thighs, or all the way to

2834
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:36,040
Speaker 1: the back of the ankle. Right, that's the whole idea.

2835
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 1: It's a it's a continuous scape, and just stopping at

2836
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 1: the beltline is actually an arbitrary way to stop. It

2837
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 1: actually flows much better with the body all the way through,

2838
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 1: and you can scale the art through that in a

2839
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 1: much more dynamic way.

2840
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,720
Speaker 2: If Robby Lawler attempted to finish off his lower back

2841
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 2: and he asked you to be the console on that

2842
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 2: for advice, would you would.

2843
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 3: You do it for free?

2844
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: I tell him to go to Zapatat and just just

2845
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:58,919
Speaker 1: get it off. I mean, you don't have it anymore.

2846
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's want this thing down. That are we

2847
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,040
Speaker 2: giving them a lot of ourselves today and I've enjoyed

2848
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 2: every single second of it. Let's go to this throwback

2849
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 2: rolling Stones on stage check out how Keith Richards reacts

2850
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 2: to this fan trying to pull a run in on

2851
02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 2: old Mick. That just goes back to business like nothing happened.

2852
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,720
Speaker 1: I love that he held onto that guitar like it

2853
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:28,360
Speaker 1: was the last needle of heroin that he was going

2854
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 1: to get that week.

2855
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at his reaction is not to kick,

2856
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 2: not to push, not to run, used to take people.

2857
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 1: They'll understand. I don't know. Kids today just don't appreciate this. Dude.

2858
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very very clear about this. We're now

2859
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 1: living in twenty twenty three. BC. Tell me if what

2860
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying is in any way exaggerated comedians, late night hosts,

2861
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:51,160
Speaker 1: you name it. In the nineties and I'm talking late nineties,

2862
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:55,080
Speaker 1: early nineties, we're making fun of Keith Richards for being

2863
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:58,360
Speaker 1: so strung out on drugs that he had no future,

2864
02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 1: And here this motherfucker is twenty twenty three, still thinking.

2865
02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:06,000
Speaker 2: I remember Dennis Larry's No Cure for Cancer when Any

2866
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,720
Speaker 2: went on that rant about Keith Richards said kids should

2867
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 2: not do drugs. Keith, we can't do any more drugs

2868
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 2: because you already did them all. I got to wait

2869
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 2: till you die and smoke your ashes. If only he

2870
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,480
Speaker 2: hadn't stolen from Bill Hicks, Luke, that I would be

2871
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 2: allowed to say that that's the greatest.

2872
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 1: I never told you this books on Bill Hicks, and

2873
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 1: I have all of his albums.

2874
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:26,360
Speaker 2: Wow, so he stole So Dennis stole everything?

2875
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 1: Right, yeah he did well, he stole no cure for cancer,

2876
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:31,080
Speaker 1: but other.

2877
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:33,839
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. Hey, let's go to the Swedish national

2878
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:35,879
Speaker 2: hockey team. Here's how they warm up in the tunnel.

2879
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, perfect transition.

2880
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 1: All right, that's a little much, that's a little that's

2881
02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 1: not that's not what that's not what we do for

2882
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 1: pre mk.

2883
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,200
Speaker 2: All right, pregame oil changes right here. Hey, let's go

2884
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 2: to the kids birthday party. Watch check out Spider Man's asshole.

2885
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:05,160
Speaker 1: Do I really want to? Oh, Spider Man's got itchy butt?

2886
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 1: Huh No, he's got he's got yo Coachino, wash your hands,

2887
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 1: little one.

2888
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 3: Oh boy?

2889
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, hey, you love gender reveals more than anyone, Luke,

2890
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,320
Speaker 2: I got a low budget gender reveal for you. Your thoughts

2891
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 2: on this one.

2892
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,560
Speaker 1: This is gonna be great. They should all be low budget.

2893
02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:29,320
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

2894
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:35,960
Speaker 2: What do you think it's gonna be Luke Blue or Pink. I, oh,

2895
02:11:36,040 --> 02:11:38,400
Speaker 2: that's a boy. It's a boy, dude.

2896
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.

2897
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 2: All right, hey, time for MMA fighters.

2898
02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:50,520
Speaker 1: Just send just shoot that family into the moon. Just

2899
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 1: let him live there.

2900
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was done in satire or real.

2901
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm kind of scared if it. If it is real,

2902
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 2: let's go to MMA fighters in the wild. Here's Cyril

2903
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 2: Gun impersonating the two O nine.

2904
02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:09,920
Speaker 1: Not bad, right, Actually, it's pretty good. He's got that

2905
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:13,240
Speaker 1: sort of loose mannerisms.

2906
02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 2: Good, that is pretty good. Let's go to the gym.

2907
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 2: Here's Islam Mahachev showing that there's more than one way

2908
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 2: to do things. Luke, Okay, you need to wear gloves

2909
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:22,240
Speaker 2: to get fit. You can do that.

2910
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:24,560
Speaker 1: Well, he's wearing actual MMA gloves.

2911
02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 2: Is that legal under your terms?

2912
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:31,040
Speaker 1: If he's doing it cross training? Yes, floor presses? His

2913
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:32,600
Speaker 1: floor press look terrible. By the way.

2914
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, Luke, UFC fight night in Vegas, did

2915
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 2: you hear that rant that Abdul Razak al Hassen went

2916
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:41,920
Speaker 2: on going after I got new Manza. Let's let's go

2917
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:42,960
Speaker 2: back to that man.

2918
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 1: Before Buckley's last fight against Chris Curtis, him and Chris

2919
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 1: kind of made an agreement that they wouldn't shoot for takedown.

2920
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 4: So that's what he did with in his bitch ass,

2921
02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:56,400
Speaker 4: told my powers like, I don't want this fucking guy

2922
02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 4: doing that.

2923
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it you you're bitch Buckley. I hope

2924
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:00,360
Speaker 1: you see this.

2925
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:02,560
Speaker 4: If I see in the street and he I swear

2926
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:04,680
Speaker 4: to God, I will show you the fucking African way

2927
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:06,640
Speaker 4: I saw I who smack you the I'll smike the

2928
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 4: fuck out of you. I swear I treat you like

2929
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 4: the you're a bitch. Sorry, Yes, I want to rematch

2930
02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 4: you that fucking beach.

2931
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:15,240
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna end that.

2932
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to the game that.

2933
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:20,360
Speaker 2: Uh it goes on and on in that same theme.

2934
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 2: I've told it's two minutes and thirty seconds. Uh luke.

2935
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 2: That was very similar to that rant you heard that

2936
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:28,320
Speaker 2: taxi driver do in the streets of DC that time.

2937
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:33,000
Speaker 1: No, the streets of New York, yes, yes, where I

2938
02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 1: left the village idiot on Fourteenth Street. And then the

2939
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:37,360
Speaker 1: cab driver got in a fight with someone crossing the

2940
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:40,080
Speaker 1: street and he told him don't f with me, mother,

2941
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:44,120
Speaker 1: fer I'm third world and threatened to stab him.

2942
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 2: Dude, Al hasen wanting to show him the African way.

2943
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:49,160
Speaker 2: By way, I've read that new Man's just set on

2944
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:51,480
Speaker 2: ig that he's going to cut down to welterweight. Good movie.

2945
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:53,160
Speaker 1: It's a good idea. At least I'd be curious to

2946
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:54,640
Speaker 1: see how it goes, because I think his frame is

2947
02:13:54,640 --> 02:13:56,280
Speaker 1: not ideal for.

2948
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,560
Speaker 2: Interesting. Here's Sean Strickland catching up with the Detroit Urban Survival.

2949
02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, but then they had the dust up afterwards. No, no,

2950
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:15,280
Speaker 1: no pun intended because this guy is called dust where.

2951
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if it's uh, I

2952
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:20,080
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a bit, but where Sean was

2953
02:14:20,160 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 1: kind of antagonizing him and like or actually the guy

2954
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:23,840
Speaker 1: was like, you know, we could fight in the desert

2955
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:25,280
Speaker 1: and I would win, And Shawn's like, are you out

2956
02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:26,760
Speaker 1: of your are you out of your fucking mind? I

2957
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:29,200
Speaker 1: would I would like He's right, he was like, I'd

2958
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:31,680
Speaker 1: absolutely kill him. By the way, getting an update on

2959
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 1: Twitter shows how much I know about Japanese. I still

2960
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 1: have some work to do. Quote. Those aren't marijuana leaves,

2961
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:38,520
Speaker 1: but Japanese maple leaves, which are online obviously with the

2962
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:39,800
Speaker 1: fuller design. So there you go.

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02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:43,440
Speaker 2: Or uh, our tur all right, hey, let's go to

2964
02:14:43,480 --> 02:14:45,320
Speaker 2: the living room here, Luke. We haven't had any white

2965
02:14:45,320 --> 02:14:47,160
Speaker 2: people to take really hard falls yet this week.

2966
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Speaker 1: My favorite, Oh look at this heaf big. Oh no,

2967
02:14:55,640 --> 02:15:00,760
Speaker 1: big Bertha, you got to practice your breakfalls, young lady.

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02:15:01,240 --> 02:15:02,800
Speaker 1: I just I just want to take a moment to

2969
02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 1: just look at this. It's like, look, you're a big

2970
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 1: fat person. Okay, just acknowledge it. You're a big fat person.

2971
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:10,480
Speaker 1: And not only that, you're like top heavy. You look

2972
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:14,840
Speaker 1: like Danny DeVito and Batman two. Get the fuck off

2973
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,760
Speaker 1: the thing with wheels you, I mean, just stop, just stop.

2974
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:21,120
Speaker 2: What is she some great big fat person?

2975
02:15:22,080 --> 02:15:24,400
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, I like how she even had to share

2976
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 1: it to help her and was still like, nope.

2977
02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 2: Yes she's rather large, sir, Yes, indeed, all right, smoke

2978
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:31,320
Speaker 2: him if you got him time. Remember we called Gus

2979
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:36,480
Speaker 2: Johnson vaping, Luke introducing you to Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel.

2980
02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:42,040
Speaker 1: Where was he this this past weekend or they already

2981
02:15:42,040 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 1: eliminated it was last weekend?

2982
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:44,560
Speaker 2: Oh did you see that?

2983
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh he's dude, he might be puffing on that marijuana.

2984
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:51,040
Speaker 1: Do you think he's getting high as balls during that game?

2985
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:54,560
Speaker 2: I hope I hope that would explain the offensive scheme, right,

2986
02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I don't know. You know

2987
02:15:56,080 --> 02:15:57,880
Speaker 2: you think I watch American football.

2988
02:15:57,560 --> 02:16:00,560
Speaker 1: Luke, I watched five minutes of American football this weekend.

2989
02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm falling off the cliff. All I do is watch fights,

2990
02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:08,040
Speaker 2: look and records. All right, Uh hey, great gift idea

2991
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:10,400
Speaker 2: for Twoky. By the way, your thoughts if if if?

2992
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:13,480
Speaker 2: Uncle brother, I'm sorry, Uncle Gringo drops this off.

2993
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 1: Luke, my first, dude, I told you I haven't vaped

2994
02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:19,920
Speaker 1: in a while. Aren't you proud of me?

2995
02:16:19,960 --> 02:16:20,120
Speaker 3: Man?

2996
02:16:20,200 --> 02:16:22,520
Speaker 1: Like, I'm just a struggle dude. I'm having a hard

2997
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:23,000
Speaker 1: time with it.

2998
02:16:23,080 --> 02:16:24,880
Speaker 2: But all right, well, the next time I see you,

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02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:26,920
Speaker 2: I guess that's I guess the next time I see

3000
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 2: you might be London. Here's what I plan on doing

3001
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:31,440
Speaker 2: to your hotel room. Because we got a lot of

3002
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 2: UK fans that are like, uh, I'm holding I'm packing heat,

3003
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:36,520
Speaker 2: We're ready for you.

3004
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:44,920
Speaker 1: Not that kind of Holy Jesus, Holy Jesus, that's.

3005
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:47,400
Speaker 2: A lot of product in there. That is a lot

3006
02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:47,760
Speaker 2: of heaven.

3007
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:54,640
Speaker 1: It looks like it because there's juggalos, but Luke.

3008
02:16:54,560 --> 02:16:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks very heavenly in there.

3009
02:16:56,320 --> 02:16:58,199
Speaker 1: Wow, you see, is this what it's like to walk

3010
02:16:58,240 --> 02:16:59,800
Speaker 1: into high rollers?

3011
02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 2: Be very similar? Do you think you could get you

3012
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 2: could actually stand up after like ten minutes in there?

3013
02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:07,600
Speaker 1: I hope not.

3014
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:12,440
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's if we can't get that many

3015
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:14,760
Speaker 2: product or friends, we can we can form a much

3016
02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:17,519
Speaker 2: smaller circle here. Let's check out these guys.

3017
02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:24,600
Speaker 1: Why you know, I would have so much more respect

3018
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:27,480
Speaker 1: for death cults if this is the way they went.

3019
02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:27,840
Speaker 1: You know.

3020
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:35,280
Speaker 2: That guys getting hammered out. Yeah, that guy can't. That

3021
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:37,400
Speaker 2: guy can't swim in these type of waters.

3022
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:37,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

3023
02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:41,080
Speaker 2: Finally, even Grammy is Granny is used in Luke, of

3024
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:42,800
Speaker 2: course to help her glock home up.

3025
02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:46,199
Speaker 1: Granny getting highest Oh.

3026
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:48,200
Speaker 2: Whoa, so sorry? Sorry, first we got this lady I

3027
02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:50,119
Speaker 2: forgot I read out a circle.

3028
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:52,039
Speaker 1: She looks like a NASA scientist.

3029
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:55,600
Speaker 2: Apparently Granny isn't going to be in next week's patch. Yeah, Luke,

3030
02:17:55,680 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 2: this this spring breaker is wow.

3031
02:17:57,879 --> 02:18:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah right, she just looked like she's a you know,

3032
02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:04,119
Speaker 1: five beta Kapa Carnegie Mellon.

3033
02:18:04,600 --> 02:18:06,360
Speaker 2: And we got one more for you. This is all

3034
02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:09,000
Speaker 2: the ship I got this week, Luke, enjoy it.

3035
02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:14,400
Speaker 1: One more for you, you fucking dumb piece of shit.

3036
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:15,119
Speaker 1: Fuck you.

3037
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:19,840
Speaker 2: All right, that's that's a fucking yeah.

3038
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:22,160
Speaker 1: By the way, BC, he's white. I can't believe it

3039
02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:23,160
Speaker 1: seems so out of character.

3040
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 2: You know, that's your feces from BC's for the week.

3041
02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:28,520
Speaker 1: But hey, we shouldn't remind folks we didn't say the

3042
02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:31,440
Speaker 1: top of the show. Dan Hardy's joining us at our

3043
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:35,160
Speaker 1: live show February eighth. February eighth, it's gonna be BC

3044
02:18:35,640 --> 02:18:38,400
Speaker 1: LT and d H. Dan Hardy is going to be

3045
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 1: their designated hitter. So come see us. Get your tickets outlaw, yeah,

3046
02:18:44,560 --> 02:18:46,959
Speaker 1: proper outlaw. Also, b C, we have to figure out

3047
02:18:46,959 --> 02:18:49,200
Speaker 1: our drinking plans, because I know we're gonna have to,

3048
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:52,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know what we're gonna do yet, So.

3049
02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't think we can drink on stage. I don't know.

3050
02:18:54,640 --> 02:18:55,840
Speaker 2: We got to talk to it. We got to talk

3051
02:18:55,879 --> 02:18:56,160
Speaker 2: to no.

3052
02:18:56,080 --> 02:18:57,600
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't mean so much there. I just

3053
02:18:57,680 --> 02:18:59,960
Speaker 1: mean like, wow, we're in London kind of thing.

3054
02:19:00,640 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, But look, there's going to

3055
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,760
Speaker 2: be there's going to be even more. Dan Hardy's just

3056
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:08,959
Speaker 2: the beginning. We're gonna we're gonna release more names in

3057
02:19:08,959 --> 02:19:12,720
Speaker 2: the future, and we're building this thing steady as she goes.

3058
02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:15,240
Speaker 2: But we said it before, We'll say it once more.

3059
02:19:15,640 --> 02:19:18,039
Speaker 2: QR code in the bottom of the screen. Guys, the

3060
02:19:18,160 --> 02:19:21,000
Speaker 2: tickets are running low. They are very happ everyone's very

3061
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:22,520
Speaker 2: happy right now. We have sold a lot of these

3062
02:19:22,520 --> 02:19:24,840
Speaker 2: and that's because of you guys being so passionate. Whether

3063
02:19:24,879 --> 02:19:27,680
Speaker 2: you live down the road there in the King's Place

3064
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 2: King's Court area of London, or whether you're like the

3065
02:19:30,200 --> 02:19:33,520
Speaker 2: Paquettes and you're like Nova Scotia Goodbye, We're coming, We're

3066
02:19:33,520 --> 02:19:37,400
Speaker 2: coming on okay, or you're you know, Yuri Prahatska. I'm calming.

3067
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm calming. Yeah, yeah, that was more Arnold than Yeeri.

3068
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:45,160
Speaker 2: Though David Appleton's gonna be there all all all our

3069
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:47,200
Speaker 2: people are gonna be there. If you got a chance

3070
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:50,760
Speaker 2: to do it, folks, I think you should, okay, big

3071
02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:54,920
Speaker 2: time fun interviews, the MK full you know, foolery and

3072
02:19:54,959 --> 02:19:57,680
Speaker 2: funny games that you expect. It's gonna be a fun

3073
02:19:57,760 --> 02:19:59,800
Speaker 2: ninety minutes of your life. And you know, maybe we'll

3074
02:19:59,840 --> 02:20:02,039
Speaker 2: all go out for a pint after Luke, unless we

3075
02:20:02,120 --> 02:20:04,039
Speaker 2: find these people to be extra creepy and then we'll

3076
02:20:04,040 --> 02:20:05,560
Speaker 2: go hide in our hotel room like normal.

3077
02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:07,720
Speaker 1: No, then they're just gonna follow you home like the

3078
02:20:07,720 --> 02:20:11,280
Speaker 1: pied piper of fucking weirdos that you are. I'm gonna

3079
02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna go the other way, so it's gonna be fun.

3080
02:20:14,040 --> 02:20:16,440
Speaker 1: And then of course Morningcombat dot Store We've got I

3081
02:20:16,440 --> 02:20:19,160
Speaker 1: think some UK merch on there as well as some

3082
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:20,760
Speaker 1: of the stuff are gonna be putting up there pretty soon,

3083
02:20:20,800 --> 02:20:22,760
Speaker 1: so go take a look at their Morningcombat dot Store

3084
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:26,120
Speaker 1: or reach the show. It's Morningcombat at gmail dot com

3085
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:28,520
Speaker 1: for Wednesday's fans subs Friday is dead wrong. And then

3086
02:20:28,600 --> 02:20:31,039
Speaker 1: last but not least, of course, Showtime dot Com thirty

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Speaker 1: day free try like you can keep it if not,

3088
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Speaker 1: And of course today is the last day. You can

3089
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Speaker 1: try it for six months three ninety nine a month

3090
02:20:37,879 --> 02:20:39,840
Speaker 1: for your first six months. Dealers don't come much better

3091
02:20:39,840 --> 02:20:41,560
Speaker 1: than this, folks. This is the time to get on it. Well.

3092
02:20:41,560 --> 02:20:43,440
Speaker 1: You can hear BC it on Showbox. You can get

3093
02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:46,400
Speaker 1: adults MMA and then regular Showtime Championship Boxing, so a

3094
02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:48,240
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff BC. Any final thoughts where we

3095
02:20:48,280 --> 02:20:49,280
Speaker 1: exit today's show.

3096
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, our new our new GTA shirt mkg TA on

3097
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:56,000
Speaker 2: our Morningcombat dot Store website. It's one of our Jay's

3098
02:20:56,040 --> 02:20:58,240
Speaker 2: great so check that out right now you may find

3099
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 2: yourself wearing it pretty soon. But no, thanks to Long Island,

3100
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:04,760
Speaker 2: Luke Gaff, Mikey Morrims behind the scenes. We love you guys,

3101
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:07,600
Speaker 2: and you know these people that watch us, Luke, it's

3102
02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:09,760
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you got to pinch yourself. Today was

3103
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,039
Speaker 2: episode four hundred. We didn't have a big, you know,

3104
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:14,200
Speaker 2: a big bouquet of flowers for our fans. We just

3105
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:17,000
Speaker 2: gave it to them like they would expect normally, only

3106
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 2: this time it was two and a half hours. But

3107
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,519
Speaker 2: I just want you folks to know, like every milestone

3108
02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:23,240
Speaker 2: matters to us. This has been This has been the

3109
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:26,120
Speaker 2: craziest run. I hope it lasts, right. I hope it lasts, Luke.

3110
02:21:26,320 --> 02:21:30,199
Speaker 2: But even if I hate you tomorrow, I've had fun same.

3111
02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 1: But I am tired of doing the show for today.

3112
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:35,240
Speaker 1: So let's call it one, all right for Malka for

3113
02:21:35,320 --> 02:21:38,000
Speaker 1: showtime for CBS Sports, that's Brian Campbell. Get your tickets

3114
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:41,520
Speaker 1: February eighth. I'm Luke Thomas until Wednesday. May all of

3115
02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:42,760
Speaker 1: your gains be loyal