1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: My fiance demanded I stopped being friends with my ex 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: or she call off the wedding, marry her, marry the friend. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: This comes up from a throwaway account for obvious reasons. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to gain some insight by posting here. Some 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: outside opinions are something I would be very grateful for 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: right now. So background, My ex girlfriend Emma twenty six 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: and I twenty six male, were together for nine years. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: That's a while a lot of years. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: We got together quote unquote when we were thirteen and 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: broke things off when we were twenty two. That's a 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: long time forwaradive years account. 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 3: It's a long relationship to start at thirteen. I know 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: relationship only last two weeks. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: In thirteen, I knew a couple. We had a family 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: friend who dated someone for like six years from twelve 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: to high school. Dude, you know who. Think about it 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: and you'll remember. You'll remember one of the things. When 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: we were twenty two. We were friends since first grade. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: We grew up together, our families became quite close, and 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: our friendship circles were always intertwined at some point or another. 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: This will be important later. We drifted in different directions 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: as we got older, and we realized that we wanted 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: what we wanted from our relationships were ultimately different. We 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: no longer had romantic feelings for one another, so we 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: decided we would be better off as friends. We were 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: best friends anyway. There hasn't been anything romantic since we 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: broke up. Nothing of a spicy sleep nature, a quick 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: hug here and there to say goodbye at most, but 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: from other stories, realized the hug is too long, and 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: there's movement in the pants, then flag. 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: The pants run away to avoid a rant. 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of worked three seconds or less. I'd say, 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: it's like kind of like the five second rule. 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: You could only have a three second hug. 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Five second hug. Hug I'll say five seconds maybe five seconds, 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: five second hug. 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: Because of you. Someone like beats and you know what 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: those beats are. 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, how long was my hug with you this morning? Riley? 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: That was a good three beats. 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: I think it was longer. We danced, We danced together. 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: I was giving you this. That's agree with you, guys, Okay, 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: So I truly haven't felt that way that way. Also 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: in quotes about her since things ended, and she's the same. 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: The breakup was very amicable. I'm gonna stop right here. 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: So if you had a partner who had a friend 47 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: or who had a relationship that went on for nine 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: years and now they are friends with them close friends 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: but nothing romantic, would that make you uncomfortable? I want 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: to know in the poll you'd be uncomfortable or not 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: with a nine year relationship turned friendship. 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: I think it would just depend on how they interacted 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: with each other. 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 5: I think like this, I think it could be okay 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 5: because it's like childhood friends. 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: You know, It's like, oh, we were each other's first 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: kiss marine. Yeah, like it's kind of part of it. 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: They were definitely more than each other's first kiss, sure, 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: but they. 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: Were started at thirteen. I think that I don't know 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: for me that changed. 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 5: You can I think you could drift into a childhood 63 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: friendlane long term possibly, but also could be. 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: Marn and that if you know what I mean. 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they just keep an eye on how 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: they interacted. 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: I think the potential for fallout is higher than if 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have that friend. And what is Chad saying? 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: I vote one or two uncomfy or not? Let us know. 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Put it in the chat. But I'm gonna keep going 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: through it now to the issue. My fiance Sarah twenty four, 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: and I've been together for almost three years and I 73 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: proposed a few days ago and we are set to 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: be married this year. I was so happy when she 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: said yes. A relationship has been great, amazing communication, always 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: smiling together. It's been wonderful. She knew about my past 77 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: with Emma, as I was very upfront with her about 78 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: it when we first began dating. As Emma and I 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: are still friends. Our families still get together for sporting events, 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: have parties, and hang out together all the time. My 81 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: parents are really close to hers and our siblings twenty 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: two male, twenty five females, seventeen female, eighteen female, and 83 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: nineteen male. They're all good friends too. They are all 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: really close. So I think that's pointing again to friend 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: groups intertwined And going over to the poll, it looks 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: like forty two percent of you guys would be uncomfy 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and twenty nine would be like nah, sorry, that's twenty 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: nine votes fifty eight percent percent of grouple. 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Most kind of split, but most people are okay with it. 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, most people, yeah, would be okay with it. Like 91 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: sixty now over sixty percent or so. 92 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because we don't know of anything like 93 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: icky that's happened in the friends, you know, I think 94 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: it sounds like very yeah, yes, exactly right now. It 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: seems fine. 96 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: It seems like all of us in this room would 97 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: be okay with it. Is that true? Okay? Okay, Okay, Riley, Okay, Anthony. 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: So they are really close. They even have a weekly 99 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: pizza knight. We also have a weekly visa night. We 100 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: also have a few common friends. I didn't want Sarah 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: to feel uncomfortable at any point, so I tried really 102 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: hard to let her know everything I could and take 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: the right steps to show her that she is my 104 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: number one. I would always include her in family events, 105 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: make sure my family would spend time with her, and 106 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: have even tried to create our own rituals together. I 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: adore this girl. I think she is incredible. From the 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: day I met her and I have been head over heels. 109 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: Nothing could go wrong. 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 3: I guess we know that there are a lot of 111 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: family intertwined events that she's now going to. Would that 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: make you uncomfy to go to your your partner's ex's 113 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: house like family's house? 114 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: And again, I think it all goes back to how 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 5: they interact because it could give family long time. 116 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, child, child, Yeah, thank you Christian. Yeah. 117 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 5: When you guys are you know, doing long hugs? Just 118 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: I'm like, it's all good. I'm not jealous. 119 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: Unless she hasn't voiced a single problem to me about 120 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: any of this until today. She would even encourage me 121 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: to invite Emma over to get together, as we have 122 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: hosted or along to movies or dinner with our friends. 123 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: So it seems like everything is chill chill. Also, anybody 124 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: else is chill? 125 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: What's chill? 126 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 6: Sam? 127 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Tina, I'm done with the twenty gifted membership? Ye spread 128 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: in the love we love to see it. And Josephe 129 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: Madola request Riley tipplink Please, Riley, where's my tip? 130 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: Give me that tip? 131 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: Give me that tip. Ryles, I was under the impression 132 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Sarah really liked her, especially considering the extra effort she 133 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: would make to include her. Sarah and Emma have always 134 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: gotten along and they haven't been anything but nice to 135 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: each other, so again. 136 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: Seems like everyone's happy. I thought they were friends. 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Wow. She told me today, after taking time to think 138 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: about it, that our friendship is weird and shouldn't continue 139 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: she gave me an ultimatum to end our friendship or 140 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: she will end our relationship. She said, she feels disrespected. 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I would even consider keeping someone I had a relationship 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: with in my life. I couldn't get a single word 143 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: in before she left. She's staying with a friend tonight. 144 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't understand how any of this could happen. She 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: seemed happy. This is meant to be a positive time 146 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: in a relationship. She said, nothing has happened between her, 147 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Emma or our families. Again, there's more to this story, 148 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: but really quick checkpoint right here. Is this a red 149 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: flag on Emma's side? 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: I think so. 151 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: I think giving an ultimatum, especially because it seems like 152 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: this is something that op has been fourth coming about. 153 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: Communicated the time. 154 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: And also she could have said these specific things are 155 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: making me uncomfortable. Rather she said, you can't be friends 156 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: with the red all. 157 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 5: The fact that she said you having anyone in your 158 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: life you had a past relationship with is like it's honestly, 159 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: like maybe if that's what two people agree upon, like whatever, 160 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 5: But that is such a switch up, And why wasn't 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: anything brought up in the years prior. 162 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: It's like being a stripper. We like, you know how 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: we've read those stories this wait, wait, stay with me, 164 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: all right, let me cook. So you know how we've 165 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: read those stories where a guy will start dating a 166 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: stripper and he's like, oh, it's so hot, it's great, 167 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: and then when it gets serious, he's like, I don't 168 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: want you to keep stripping. It's like, I've been forth 169 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: right with all of this information from the beginning. If 170 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: you didn't like this, you should have told me in 171 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the beginning of the relationship. 172 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: You know, and take the girl on the stripper. 173 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: You can't take the girl on the stripper, and you 174 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: can't take the family friend X out of your husband. 175 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: That actually doesn't translate that ring. 176 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. 177 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: Thanks for the the only one. 178 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: I needed that I needed. I don't want to be out. 179 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: It made sense, It did make sense. It was just 180 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: your your final closing thoughts. 181 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it was a finish thought, but maybe not 182 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: a good one. Sam's bad take. So I don't know 183 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: what to do. She has been blowing up my phone 184 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: with texts, and I don't know what to say. I 185 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: thought I did everything right. Emma and I are still friends, 186 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: not overly close, though but we definitely don't cross any 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: kind of boundaries together. We don't speak about anything inappropriate 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: or do anything we should not. She is also in 189 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: a relationship at the moment. Does that change anything for anyone? 190 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: Let us know in the chat. 191 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: Below, makes it harder for them to cheat on each other. 192 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 6: That's what these people say. 193 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: He's blaming his dirty, dirty people, the story. 194 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: People, these stories that are crazy. 195 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe he's blaming you guys. 196 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: We don't claim him, don't talk every day, and don't 197 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: see each other one on one very frequently, Sarah. It's 198 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: also mentioned that she is uncomfortable with our family spending 199 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: time together after we have broken up, and wants me 200 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: to put an end to that behavior as well. I 201 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: can't control what my family does, who they see, or 202 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: who they are friends with. They have been nothing but 203 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: kind to Sarah. They have made a real effort to 204 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: make her feel special and even include her family. I 205 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Is my friendship wrong? Should 206 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: I talk to our families? Or is this ultimatum unfair? 207 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: We have an edit relevant comments and a big fat, 208 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: juicy update that is somewhat soon after, but really quick. 209 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: I want to ask chat all of the questions that 210 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: I just asked, and ask John and Sophia, what do 211 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: you think what to do? Is the relationship wrong, the 212 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: friendship wrong? Is the ultimatum unfair? What do guys think? 213 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 5: I think generally, Yeah, when an ultimatum is entered into 214 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 5: the chat of life, that is you know LFGSGA. 215 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Dude, John slowly turning Jen out. 216 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: When your partner is an op sometimes you have to 217 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: get rid of them. 218 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to. 219 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: Sovia just learned two days ago, but I like, yes, 220 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: it is. 221 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 5: Months okay, gen z l aside. 222 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: Like an opponent opposition anyways. 223 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think generally when there's an ultimatum, like something 224 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: is going wrong. 225 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 226 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 5: I just like, even with all the stories you've heard 227 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: with ultimatums, I really find it hard to imagine a 228 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: place I could see I could see it being positioned. 229 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: It's like, hey, look, if you want to continue doing this, 230 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 5: like I totally understand, but I don't know if I 231 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: would want to be in a relationship with someone who 232 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 5: does X versus like it's either this or I'm leaving that. 233 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels. 234 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: I think an ultimatum is a weird choice for something 235 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: that has been present since the beginning of the relationship. 236 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: It's not like he's been high. It's not like he 237 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: like you know, suddenly took up hanging out with his 238 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: ex three months before the marriage. It's it has been 239 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,119 Speaker 1: out in the open and he has been like he's 240 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: talked about it openly, and so I think that's fine. 241 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 5: Should have been talked about before the marriage or like 242 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 5: hanging out with their eggs like last week, like. 243 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: Any I think that, Yeah, it's not fair to Hey, 244 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm thinking here. 245 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: What I think she's finishing a thought. 246 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that op that the fact that 247 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: she didn't bring it up in the beginning of the relationship, 248 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: it's not fair to change up on him now. 249 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, but we do have an edit before 250 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: we get into the big, fat, juicy update. I just 251 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: want to mention, because I've gotten a few comments about it, 252 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: that em and I are no longer close, which may 253 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: change things for us. I see what doesn't change things 254 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: for us, but maybe changes things for the fiance. I 255 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: see her at events she is also invited to, or 256 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: when Sarah invites her along with us and our friends 257 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: to do something I don't actively seek her out for 258 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: one on one time or invite her places myself. I 259 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: don't even message her or text her. She's in a 260 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: relationship to Our families are close, parents are best friends, 261 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: and our siblings grew up together. They even still have sleepovers. 262 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: That means I'll see her places or run into her. 263 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: That is really hard to avoid, but I really do try. 264 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to make that clear. I have made an 265 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: effort to set up boundaries to make Sarah as comfortable 266 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: as possible. I've tried so hard. 267 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: Two things, two things. One, Sarah has been inviting Emma. 268 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense. Sarah's the one who's like super 269 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: anti Emma and then invites her to events. 270 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: That's what Hope he was saying. He's like, that's weird. 271 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: I thought they were friends coming. 272 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: And two, it sounds like the families are more so 273 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: friends than op he and Emma, and I think it's 274 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: really weird for Sarah to be like, your families can't 275 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: be friends like you. 276 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory. All right, I think, all right, 277 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: what's the sudden change of heart? Maybe maybe maybe Emma 278 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: confess some feelings oh to Sarah. Potentially that would be 279 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: weird if. 280 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: She went up to her like Sarah and was like I. 281 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: Love yeah, but maybe it's like hey, like like we've 282 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: seen stories. We actually read a story last week where 283 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: it was like, uh, he would be so much happier 284 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: with me, like like I like the friend was like, 285 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: he would be so much ropper. He actually wants me more. 286 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: So maybe there was some confession and maybe maybe maybe 287 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: maybe that's. 288 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: My conspiracy theory. Take your conspiracy theory and raise you. 289 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: I think that she's running around and cheating and doing 290 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 5: the classic projecting and attacking the other person for doing nothing. 291 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: That's that's why. 292 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: Oh I see you and raise you. 293 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: E oh, she's raising again. 294 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: We're cheating together and now Sarah is running off with Emma. 295 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh so high, I can't go any higher. 296 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Linda says maybe Emma said something to trigger sarah feelings 297 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: for op Nikki Bordeaux says, I think the girlfriend cheated 298 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: and she's projecting, which is Sophia. 299 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: That was what I said, John said, and then have 300 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: a third one so I made one up. 301 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Victorious Abs says Sarah is being weird. Her ultimatum is 302 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: nonsense since it came out of nowhere. Something happened? So, Paul, 303 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: really quick, do we believe something happened. 304 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: Between just so? 305 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: Did something change? Did something happen? I don't know what 306 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: is there more beneath something? 307 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: Think there's gotta be more beneath the surface. 308 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So we have a quick relevant comment before we 309 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: go into this stick Juicy upo uh just to learn says? 310 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: What has she said in the text? This is the 311 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: text between oh P and his current girlfriend. The texts 312 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: are where her feelings about our families being close came in. 313 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: She only voiced the fact she didn't want em and 314 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: I to have anything to do with one another before 315 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: she left and raced out the door. I've tried calling her, 316 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: she won't answer. I've left voicemails telling her I want 317 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: to talk, but I haven't heard a response beyond make 318 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: a choice going to call. 319 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: Her and she just leaves voicemails and say. 320 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: I want choices for breakfast. 321 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: He's like, do you. 322 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: Want pancakes or waffles? 323 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: And she's like, god, choice. 324 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: So you have the update. It's a been a very 325 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: eventful three days, and after all the advice I was 326 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: given on my last post, I thought I would share 327 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: a thick juicy update, I added the thick and juicy. 328 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: I also want to thank everyone for the words of 329 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: wisdom and kindness. I read every comment and took them 330 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: all to hearts. I really appreciate it. I really hope 331 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: you didn't read every comment and take it to heart. 332 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: Reddit says, I'm crazy that do not take everything the 333 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: heart that you This update is long and not what 334 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: I was hoping for, but what happened has happened. Oh 335 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Man intrigue so I couldn't get a hold of Sarah 336 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: for two days. She wouldn't answer my calls or my messages. 337 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I'd left her a voicemail asking her to come home 338 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: against Sarah is the current girlfriend, Emma is the ex girlfriend, 339 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: or to meet up somewhere for coffee so we could 340 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: talk together. I let her know I loved her, that 341 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: she would always be first. I heard nothing back. She's 342 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: never been like this. If we had an issue, we 343 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: would always talk it through. We even had a pact 344 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: to never go to bed mad at one another, and 345 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: we never had. But she didn't come home. She didn't 346 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: even reply to me. At first, I thought she wanted 347 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: some time to cool down, but it just kept getting later. 348 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't stop thinking she would walk back through the door. 349 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: She didn't. I heard nothing from her. I could barely 350 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: get any sleep. So I texted her, explaining, I do 351 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: whatever I could to show her how much she means 352 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: to me. I explained the only reason I saw Emma 353 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: was at gatherings from mutual friends slash family of friends 354 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: that she tagged along to, or when Sarah invited her 355 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: to events herself, which again Sarah Ohpe's current girlfriend invited 356 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: Emma Ohpe's ex girlfriend two events, which apparently she had 357 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: a problem to come. That doesn't make any sense. Come on, 358 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: I said, I wouldn't attend any get togethers Oh. I 359 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: told her she didn't have to do that, that I 360 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 1: didn't want it or need it. I only wanted her 361 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: so it didn't have to invite Emma to events. I 362 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: said I wouldn't attend any get togethers I knew Emma 363 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: would attend at all, which I think is too much. 364 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: That's too much. 365 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: I also tried my best to explain that our families 366 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: were very close before Emma and I got together, and 367 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: that I couldn't control who they were friends with. I 368 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: did tell her we could talk, though, and that we 369 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: would maybe come up with something together that would make 370 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: her feel more comfortable. I let her know my family 371 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: loves her, and he didn't reply. 372 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: Oh my god. So so he's actually following through with 373 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: her ultimatum. 374 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: Yes, and she's doing the most. She's doing the most 375 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: even she's like, make a choice, Yeah, a simple make 376 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: a choice. Just what are you choosing? 377 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: What? 378 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it's giving, it's giving. I cheated on you, 379 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: and I want to blame you for being the bad person, 380 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: and so I'm going to like set this ultimatum to 381 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: basically remove any guilt that I have about doing wrong. 382 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: You know, we're doing sam fishing. Thank you, Anthony. 383 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: She didn't reply. It took everything I had to not 384 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: call her and see if she was okay, but I 385 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to upset her further. I read some comments 386 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: saying it might, so I tried to listen. I still 387 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: hadn't heard from her by the afternoon of the next day. 388 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I tried to call her again, but it rung out. 389 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: I sent her another message, telling her I just wanted 390 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: to know if she was okay, and that if I 391 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: didn't hear back from her soon, I would have to 392 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: start calling her family or her friends. I didn't know 393 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: something had happened to her. This was so out of character. 394 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: She's never done this. I was so worried. She texted 395 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: me back straight away because he's like, I'm gonna start 396 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: calling friends and family, and she said, I'm fine, I'm 397 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: not coming home. 398 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 3: I want you. We don't want you here. If this 399 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: is how she's going to act when he actually like 400 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: listens to her insane demands. 401 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: That he's in too deep? Though, who cares in too deep? 402 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, p cares we are that you should be ditching. 403 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: But I think, oh, he just still wants his lost love. Hey, huh, 404 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: So that was it. I tried to call her. I 405 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: knew she was right there. I figured she would pick up. 406 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I called, but she had turned off her phone. I 407 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. I felt like my heart 408 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: had been ripped out of my chest. I didn't know 409 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: what I should be doing. I didn't know what would 410 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: bring her home. I just wanted to talk. I wanted 411 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: to make it better. I ended up going to my parents' 412 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: house last night. They live close about five minutes. On 413 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: a slow day, I was an absolute mess and didn't 414 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: think I would cope by myself. It was about eight PM. 415 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: When I went over, I hadn't heard from her again. 416 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: I went to bed in the spare room. Also, this 417 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: was submitted to our subreddit, our slash Ok story Time. 418 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: Go submit your stories there if you want us to 419 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: read them. We're gonna get back into the story. But 420 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: I was only asleep for a few hours when crap 421 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: started to hit the fan. My phone was going off 422 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: and it was Sarah yy, Sarah, you too. 423 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: Much, Sarah. 424 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: This is what she says. She says, where are you? 425 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Did you run back to her? I had no idea 426 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: what she was talking about. I told her I was 427 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: at my parents. I told her I was coming home. 428 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: I begged her to please stay. I was fumbling trying 429 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: to get myself dressed and find my keys. It was 430 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: about two in the morning. I kept dropping everything I 431 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: wanted to be gone. I was halfway out the door 432 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: and that's when it happened. She pulled up into the 433 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: driveway and was absolutely livid. When she got out of 434 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: the car. She was screaming at me, yelling her head off, 435 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: and no matter what I did, she wouldn't calm Down. 436 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: The street my parents live on is fairly echoey. She 437 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: was loud, people start flicking their lights on, and our 438 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: neighbors started to come out onto their porches. It was 439 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: a crap show. My parents came outside too, and my 440 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: mother started to try and talk to her. They've always 441 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: gotten along well, and she wasn't responding to me no 442 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: matter how much I tried. Sarah wasn't having it. Really 443 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: quick pausing here, what do you do in this kind 444 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: of situation? 445 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: I think you go back inside. 446 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: You go back inside and just not deal with it. 447 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, like, I'm not going to talk 448 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: to you this way. Talk to me when you're a 449 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: little bit calmer. 450 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what else. I mean, she's screaming 451 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: at you, she's not listening. I think it's worse to 452 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 3: just have like to take that. I don't thinkah, I 453 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: don't think anyone should just have to take someone screaming 454 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: at them for no reason. 455 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm happy to sit down and talk. But yeah, but 456 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: this is not like this. 457 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: If this happened to me, this would be like prevorce territories. 458 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, no one should ever be screaming at someone. 459 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: It like, yeah, like for this and pulling up randomly. 460 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, after parents happen, he's just like what 461 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: I don't understand. I literally have given zero context. 462 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Of any sense except like, all you know is she's 463 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: jealous of your ex girlfriend. That's all you know. Benji 464 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Sola says prevorce. Actually, I would love to know pull, 465 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: prevorce or talk. I will say really quick. 466 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh I wonder if there's uh some like mental 467 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 5: health things that are happening with her. 468 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, possibly. 469 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: Character. 470 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 5: It seems extremely out of character from what everything Oh 471 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 5: he's told us, So yeah, maybe that's something that I 472 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: think that could. 473 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: I think that's a definite impossibility. 474 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Tia says, Sarah's gone. Craig Craig, Courtney Robinson 475 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: La Salle says prevorce. I cau a, we got our 476 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: we got our people over on Twitch say, I agree. 477 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: Car says I think they need to communicate. Maybe there 478 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: is an underlying issue. I definitely agree they need to communicate. 479 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: I don't think she's the Smithy Tiffy says pre wars. 480 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: Queen Procrastination says both talk and prevorce. I think so 481 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: so prevorce regardless of tut. 482 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: Just to figure out what's going on. 483 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some voting. It looks like one hundred 484 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: percent prevorse right now, love our community over here on thirteen, 485 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: I have one vote for talk. They're coming in, But 486 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: let's get back into this story. We got some we 487 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: got we got some stuff to get through. So she 488 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: told me she knew what I had been doing behind 489 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: her back, that her family knew, and I was lucky 490 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: enough to be given a chance to cut my ties 491 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: and move on after having an affair for so long. 492 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: I have never cheated on her, let alone have an affair. 493 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: I love Sarah. I wanted to marry her and be 494 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: with her. It didn't matter what I said. She wouldn't 495 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: believe me, she wouldn't listen. She kept calling me every 496 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: name under the sun. My mother asked her to please 497 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: come inside to talk, that it was a misunderstanding, that 498 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: I loved her, that they loved her, and we just 499 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: needed to talk it through. Sarah started calling her a 500 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: b no, a terrible mother, and a crappy person. Don't 501 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: talk to my model like that. 502 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: That sounds like it could be a mental health thing. 503 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 6: Total. 504 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she just had like a kind of like 505 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: a like a. 506 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: Brepole er, like like a BPD kind of thing. 507 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we don't We are not psychologists. We're 508 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: not diagnosing but a little bit so is. 509 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 3: I mean I know people who with you know, with 510 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: like BPD, who have had these like barge you know, outbursts. Yeah, 511 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: so maybe this is something that needs to like go 512 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 3: to a therapist or get medicated for. 513 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, one underd percent one under present. So 514 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: told her that she knew what I was apparently doing 515 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: and even encouraged it. How sick she was for that. 516 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: My mother tried to explain herself that this wasn't what 517 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: was happening. That's when Sarah slapped her. 518 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: Oh it is so game over. Out of nowhere. 519 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: Bull Force no silver Clover says, oh, hell no, you 520 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: can disrespect me, but you cannot disrespect my mama. 521 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: My mama. 522 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, wow, okay, are we still are we still 523 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: trying to talk? Trying to talk? 524 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 4: You could change your vote, just. 525 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 6: Change your votes now. 526 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, reevestone twenty one. Here's a token for 527 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: more reading time. We're going to give you thirty dollar. 528 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: We got thirty more minutes coming for you. We also 529 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: have a bunch of more donos that we will read too. 530 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: But Benji Sola says, oh, his girlfriend is crazy crazy. Yeah, 531 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: it looks like some people are changing their votes. Preevorice 532 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: yea is now eighty three percent. I think I'm in 533 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: the pre Wars camp. Oh god, yeah, but you definitely 534 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: should be. Oh man, okay, full force. So I went silent. 535 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: My mother started to cry. Sarah, Sarah the slapper, the 536 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: girlfriend soon to be ex girlfriend hopefully started apologizing over 537 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: and over. It was instant regret, or at least it 538 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: looked that way. Do we forgive her? 539 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: No? No, I think, okay, I still want to know why, 540 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: so let her. 541 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: She apologized. 542 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: It was instant regret. 543 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: She instant super bad. 544 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: Will you forgive me? 545 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: I should just go forward with the wedding? 546 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard. Maybe you know what. I think kids 547 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: will save the marriage. Just try to pump out some. 548 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: Kids, adage something borrowed, something blue, slap his mom. 549 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: And maybe you too. It didn't matter. It ended right there. 550 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: I told her to go, that the engagement was off 551 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: and we were over that she needed to get her 552 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: things from my house. He was crying, still apologizing. But 553 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: you can't come back from that. She hit my mother. 554 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: She's never not shown all the love in the world 555 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: of Sarah, and for her to do that to someone, 556 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: let alone someone that means that much to me was enough. 557 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why she wouldn't listen to me. I 558 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: don't know why she chose to believe these other people 559 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: over me. And who are these other people? 560 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 3: Family? Her family? 561 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true, why she wouldn't even talk, But 562 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I've never felt this empty. Also, we 563 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: do have some more context from op coming up in 564 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: the relevant comments, so maybe we'll get some insight into 565 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: what was said. I need it to Sarah to make 566 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: her have such such a giant out take. 567 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know. 568 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Let's keep going. So. I don't know why she wouldn't 569 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: listen to me. I don't know why she chose to 570 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: believe these other people over me, why she wouldn't even talk, 571 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. I've never felt this empty. I 572 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: gave three years of my life to someone who refused 573 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: even talk to me or believe me. I thought I 574 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: knew her, I thought she was kind. How can you 575 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: go so long with someone and not even know what 576 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: they are capable of? All I know at this point 577 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: is that I planned to stay single for a while. Well, again, 578 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: we have some context from Ope about maybe what her 579 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: family has said, but really quick is there anything more 580 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: that we do than just break up. 581 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: No, drop it. 582 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 5: It's not literally, you do not have to do anything 583 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 5: more because Sarah has just gone absolutely so far. She 584 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 5: doesn't deserve any more of OPI's energy and time. It's 585 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 5: cut it, move on and invest in bettering himself and 586 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 5: moving on. 587 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: For me, I do need the context, though, I would 588 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: want to know. 589 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: I would just like. 590 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: Them to actually talk to. 591 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't even I don't know. 592 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 5: I don't know if I maybe maybe eventually, like once 593 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 5: I've like calm him down, but I feel like that 594 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 5: like initial like after shock period. 595 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I never want to talk to you again. 596 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw if if we scroll up uh L. 597 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: Grace Burrows says, press charges, would you do that? 598 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: I think so? I mean, I I don't know. 599 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would, just because like. 600 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah she said no. Maybe she says no, but I 601 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: think great. 602 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: Pead says, not f that restraining order. Maybe you do 603 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: report it for the restraining order because I was thinking, like, oh, 604 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna get into all of this law stuff that's 605 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: going to be a hassle for for everyone. Might not 606 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: be worth it. But if you need a exactly restraining Yeah, 607 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: I think call the police report it. Restraining order might 608 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: be good. But I saw a comment up there. It 609 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: went away, but they were like, she didn't dodge a bullet, 610 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: she dodged the nuclear bomb. But yeah, this is this 611 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: is pretty bad. But we got some context. I I hope, 612 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: I hope we get a little bit context in these 613 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: relevant comments of what and why this was said. I'm 614 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: ready so embraced relevant comments. Stinker Bell great Name says 615 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: her behavior is extraordinary. I would reach out to a 616 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: few friends of hers you could really know and can trust, 617 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: and let them know what kind of bad shape she said. Honestly, 618 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: this kind of sudden behavior and shift sounds like it 619 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: could be from a brain tumor or a mental health issue, 620 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: which we have read stories before about someone getting a 621 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: brain tumor and their personality totally shifting. It also could 622 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: be that she was feeling stressed in some way and 623 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: has some kind of breakdown under the stress. OPI responds, 624 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: there's a few friends of hers I can contact, so 625 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: I definitely, well, thank you. I still care about her 626 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: deeply and want nothing but the best of her best 627 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: for her, but this just isn't something that I could 628 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: move past. Kaylee Bean says, any possibility that Emma told 629 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: Sarah that she was having an affair with you, which 630 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: is the conspiracy theory that I said earlier, Sarah's behavior 631 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: is just too odd to come out of nowhere. Oh 632 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: Pe responds, from what Sarah did tell me last night 633 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: and from what she messaged me, since I think we're 634 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of context right here, it was 635 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: members of her family that told her. Her family has 636 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: been has never been close to or met mine, only 637 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: met them recently and briefly. They have declined every invitation 638 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: to get together. From what I know, they haven't gotten 639 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: to know any of Sarah's exes or their families. My 640 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: best guess is that the concept is extremely foreign to them, 641 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: so something had to be a miss in their eyes, 642 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: or maybe they just didn't like me. Sarah loves her family, though, 643 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: the fact that this news came from them is probably 644 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: why she believed it without any second thought. And final 645 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: relevant comment with a response from op Zia says, how 646 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: is your poor mother holding up after all this? Op 647 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: Opie responds, My mom is a tough, tough lady and 648 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: she's handling it well considering, but I haven't seen her 649 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: this upset in a really long time. She was excited 650 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: about our wedding. She thought Sarah was the greatest girl 651 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: I've ever brought home. She considered her a daughter and 652 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: a friend, which is why it hurts her the most. 653 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: I think she's definitely getting through. She's definitely getting there through. 654 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: She even started cracking jokes and I shouldn't and that 655 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: I shouldn't just date anymore and buy a dog instead, 656 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: which is literally what my mom says every day. She says, 657 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: stop dating, buy a dog. 658 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: No, Oh my god, Wow, what. 659 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 4: I'm like? 660 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: I just need to know this. 661 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 2: This this episode, it is felt like a movie. 662 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: It has it has it has. Last night it was 663 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: a movie. 664 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 4: Would you be friends with your ex? 665 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: Not this one? 666 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this one. The story was that you should 667 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: be