Speaker 1: Wind down and Michael and I have heard radio podcast okay,
Speaker 1: so probably since we started this podcast, I would say, okay,
Speaker 1: what are like? What should we talk about? Any topics
Speaker 1: like why are you yawning? Sorry, Michael, just sit like
Speaker 1: the biggest yawn. This is a great way into the show. Everybody.
Speaker 1: I bet a few people listening right now yawned, even
Speaker 1: saying yawn is contagious? Really absolutely yeah, okay, um, okay,
Speaker 1: but no, everyone has been asking I think every single
Speaker 1: time I would say, Okay, who do you guys want
Speaker 1: me to interview? In One Tree Hill? Always they're the
Speaker 1: most ride er Die fans like ever and anytime I've
Speaker 1: ever had a show, I always have to obviously thank
Speaker 1: my One Tree Hill fans because they were there from
Speaker 1: the beginning where hills what my trahiler is at and
Speaker 1: the biggest, the biggest role comes from that. Well, what's
Speaker 1: funny we're just talking before we start recording, is I
Speaker 1: need to find like a new show to binge because
Speaker 1: usually you'll fall asleep a little bit before I'm doing
Speaker 1: bed and I'll get my pad out and start watching
Speaker 1: something to fade too. So maybe that maybe I need
Speaker 1: to finally pull the trigger on that you would actually
Speaker 1: watch one trail. I mean I feel like you would
Speaker 1: like it because there's like the basketball and they're scoring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that stuff so cheesy when they try to do
Speaker 1: it in their shows. Really yeah, I mean, have you
Speaker 1: ever watched the first seasons before you're on? Well, then
Speaker 1: we can do it together. We caning it together. That'd
Speaker 1: be so perfect. Actually, would be fun. You want to
Speaker 1: do it, Okay, really, we'll start talking about it because
Speaker 1: people love it. You want to it could be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that'd be so good because we can
Speaker 1: link throw back. You start talking about it, yeah, and
Speaker 1: people love it here and be like remember on season one,
Speaker 1: episode five when I do you really want it? Because
Speaker 1: I would be fun because I haven't. I've only seen
Speaker 1: I've seen two episodes that I was in, and then
Speaker 1: besides that, I didn't watch one episode and nothing before
Speaker 1: because we were kind of the new We were the
Speaker 1: new characters, you know, so I never researched all these characters.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I didn't, but we have. I'm so excited. Hey, Ethan,
Speaker 1: is she there? She's here? Hi joy, honey, my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's been so long. When was the last time that
Speaker 1: we talked. I don't know. I mean it was probably
Speaker 1: convention or something, right, I've never done any of the conventions. No, really,
Speaker 1: well I actually well, first of all, say hi to
Speaker 1: my husband Michael. Hi Michael. Technically Bethany Joy but sort
Speaker 1: of meet you. Absolutely, um no Joy. I actually was
Speaker 1: supposed to do a convention last um and I apposed
Speaker 1: to sing and everything like my first one, and they
Speaker 1: ended up pulling me out of it, but then telling
Speaker 1: people that I canceled, and I was like, um, I
Speaker 1: did not cancel. You guys pulled me out of it
Speaker 1: because you said that you couldn't afford it. And it
Speaker 1: was the one that I was texting. That was when
Speaker 1: we were texting about that, and I was like, because
Speaker 1: everyone was like I don't know if we should do
Speaker 1: this convention, I was like, well, I'm going to, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because the money and so then they ended up pulling
Speaker 1: me out of it, but it wasn't It wasn't because
Speaker 1: they just didn't have any more funding. But they blamed
Speaker 1: it that on me canceling, and I was like, um no,
Speaker 1: So I I basically just blew them out in the
Speaker 1: on my Twitter and was like this is the message
Speaker 1: they sent me saying they didn't have any money. And
Speaker 1: this is the like, this is what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: remember how mad I was, because I don't say that
Speaker 1: I canceled when I had made plans and canceled other
Speaker 1: shows to be there. But I mean, I would love
Speaker 1: to see it at a convention. Yeah. How's Nashville. I
Speaker 1: love it down there. We just moved back to Nashville
Speaker 1: about two months ago. We were living in l A
Speaker 1: for two years and then, um, you know, I was
Speaker 1: kind of getting back into the acting world of things
Speaker 1: and then realized, you don't really need to be in
Speaker 1: l A. Yeah, and we just we love Nashville. So
Speaker 1: nash feels amazing. But I love it out there. Are
Speaker 1: you still singing? Yeah? On and off. I've it took
Speaker 1: a break because, um, I started writing a musical and
Speaker 1: it took up a lot so that all of my
Speaker 1: musical creative energy has been poured into that. Um. And
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm a mom. I'm a single working mom.
Speaker 1: I'm she's eight. Oh my god, how is she eight
Speaker 1: years old? Since say, I know, wait, do you have
Speaker 1: kids to write? I have a three and a half
Speaker 1: year old girl and then an eight month old boy,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, noratulations. I cannot believe she's eight though,
Speaker 1: when she was a baby, yep, I know, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: How how was an eight year old little girl? Third grade?
Speaker 1: It's so fun. She's really her own little person. She
Speaker 1: has her very specific tastes and opinions and um, things
Speaker 1: that she enjoys doing and doesn't enjoy and and she's
Speaker 1: her own little person. But she also you know, needs
Speaker 1: mommy and wants me to snuggle at night and still
Speaker 1: holds my hand when we walked down the street. It's great.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's the best. When did you get divorced?
Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand, well, I think it
Speaker 1: went through and fifteen sixteen fifteen. That was after Tree
Speaker 1: Hill though, yeah, I mean we we we separated in
Speaker 1: um two thousand and yeah. Really but your heart is
Speaker 1: good now? Oh yeah, girl, it's so long. I'm so good.
Speaker 1: What years was it that you guys were working together
Speaker 1: on Tree Hill? Yeah, I'm so bad with mathic. What
Speaker 1: what season did you show up though? I showed up
Speaker 1: this season after when the whole was chantel and okay,
Speaker 1: so you came in season seven seven, which was two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, wasn't Yeah, what, Oh God, wasn't eight
Speaker 1: or nine? Is it weird too? Because I'm asking this
Speaker 1: just because I felt this this past weekend. But to
Speaker 1: reconnect with somebody that you've been friends with for a
Speaker 1: long time or know for a long time at one
Speaker 1: stage of your life, but then you talk to each
Speaker 1: other now and you both have kids, like, could you
Speaker 1: imagine ten years ago, like you guys talking about having
Speaker 1: kids between you two. And just because this last weekend also,
Speaker 1: you know, back in Baltimore, babe, and seeing my friends
Speaker 1: that I've like grown up with the last ten years
Speaker 1: and now we all have wives and kids, and it's like,
Speaker 1: but when you when you talk to them and you're together,
Speaker 1: you feel like you're still twenty. Life changes a lot
Speaker 1: forces you to re evaluate your priorities, and you know,
Speaker 1: everybody sort of situates themselves in different ways. Um once
Speaker 1: families and once you get older and families start to
Speaker 1: show up. But I think about this a lot. I
Speaker 1: was taking a walk with Paul Johansson and who I love.
Speaker 1: Ran into him a couple of months ago and we
Speaker 1: were hiking. Oh, he's the sweetest, he's so great, and
Speaker 1: he was he was probably with Quinn with his son.
Speaker 1: He wasn't because it's showing me pictures. Oh yeah. So
Speaker 1: I was just talking with him the other day. We
Speaker 1: were taking a walk with the kids and just like,
Speaker 1: this is so crazy that we have known each other
Speaker 1: for fifteen it's about fifteen years and we have children.
Speaker 1: We have little children, eight year old children that are
Speaker 1: just running Their kids are the same age and they're
Speaker 1: just running around and it's a whole new world, whole
Speaker 1: new life. It's amazing. Now, what about you two together,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, you guys have you know, we're great friends.
Speaker 1: We just it would never it would never work. Oh god,
Speaker 1: it would never work. Wouldn't that just show like that
Speaker 1: would just throw the tree hillers like for thet they
Speaker 1: would they would blow their minds, like their minds. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: Paul's a wonderful person. I love him dearly. He's one
Speaker 1: of my closest friends. Um. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know how you when you've meet people in life
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just like it's a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of great elements, but it's just not you just know,
Speaker 1: you just know it's like this, it's not the right fit.
Speaker 1: Just would I work? What do you think you learned,
Speaker 1: like from the divorce and and kind of moving on
Speaker 1: from that situation, what was like your biggest takeaway with
Speaker 1: that besides probably being happier, but um, I learned a
Speaker 1: lot about self care and UM yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think I think, yeah, mostly just learning how to take
Speaker 1: care of myself and be um, how to respect myself,
Speaker 1: how to like It was a good catalyst for opening
Speaker 1: up pichanic worms for me of um, a lot of
Speaker 1: levels of healing that I needed to deal with and
Speaker 1: go through. UM so in that in that regard is
Speaker 1: great and you know you can't I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: ever regret anything that your children come out of because
Speaker 1: she's the best thing that ever happened to me, no question.
Speaker 1: How soon Jan and I were talking about this kind
Speaker 1: of recently, this topic of how soon when if you
Speaker 1: when you start dating or when you're dating somebody joy
Speaker 1: bringing up the fact that you have a child and
Speaker 1: eight year old. Is that a first date thing or
Speaker 1: is it one of those things where you gotta get
Speaker 1: to know them, see if there's any possibility of the future,
Speaker 1: and then you bring it up. I always think it's
Speaker 1: so weird when I watch in movies or TV shows
Speaker 1: and there's a character who's like, I have kid and
Speaker 1: I haven't told him. I have to tell him that
Speaker 1: I've got a kid? Like what? Just why is that
Speaker 1: not like the first thing out of your mouth that
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I would do the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. I would sit down and be like, look,
Speaker 1: I have a kid. It's the love of my life,
Speaker 1: and my world start like revolves around her and him.
Speaker 1: He just always bring it up. You just bring it
Speaker 1: casually like, oh, yeah, I had a long day my
Speaker 1: daughter and I went to this or that or but
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like it's just part of my life.
Speaker 1: How is that like a big secret you have to
Speaker 1: write it? Should? Remember we were talking to Billy Lee
Speaker 1: about it because she was she's transgender, and you know,
Speaker 1: she was saying that she wouldn't say the first time,
Speaker 1: which again is but how is the different? Though? I
Speaker 1: feel like it's manipulative to me because if I was
Speaker 1: the dude or the whatever, if I was if I
Speaker 1: was the other person in the situation, um, and you know,
Speaker 1: going on a date with somebody who had a kid
Speaker 1: and then they like hid the fact that they had
Speaker 1: a kid from me for the whole first date happens
Speaker 1: up with you? Yeah? Agree, and then let alone a gender.
Speaker 1: Oh right, you saying rights? I thought maybe she had
Speaker 1: a kid and she was How is it relevant that
Speaker 1: you stretched right right? I see that's a little different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think it's a little like to get to
Speaker 1: know them just a date or two. I would say
Speaker 1: someone I dated this one guy and he his real
Speaker 1: name wasn't his name, and I was like, that's weird,
Speaker 1: that's not your name. Did he go by something else? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was it like his middle name? No? Just like wait,
Speaker 1: was it like his name is John and he was
Speaker 1: going by Steve? Or was it like she was like
Speaker 1: going by no Duke or something. His name was Ace
Speaker 1: and his real name was like Bobby. Alright, name, that's fair.
Speaker 1: But I was just like, who are you, Robert? Are
Speaker 1: you so confused? I get what you're saying. It shouldn't
Speaker 1: be such a secret. I remember this was god like
Speaker 1: eight nine years ago when I was living in Florida.
Speaker 1: I was playing down there in this girl I was
Speaker 1: talking to and what was her name Instagram? We're hanging
Speaker 1: out and I remember after a few times of us
Speaker 1: hanging out, she texted me and was like, Hey, I
Speaker 1: have something like basically serious or really important to tell you,
Speaker 1: and I started freaking out. I'm like, is she pregnant?
Speaker 1: I'm in the locker room like with my some of
Speaker 1: my teammates like, what does this mean. We're trying to
Speaker 1: decipher and we're all guys, we don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: we can't decipher that stuff like y'all can. And then
Speaker 1: come to find out she tells me she's like, I
Speaker 1: have a three year old daughter. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: thank god, that's it. You could have told me that
Speaker 1: they wanted what it mattered. So I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: What is that? Why? Why? Why? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it's a beautiful that we're mom's to meet, to
Speaker 1: meet the child. Definitely is a timely thing. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: to tell them. Yeah, I agree with you both that
Speaker 1: it could be. How long do you wait until another
Speaker 1: man or a woman meets your child? I don't know
Speaker 1: if you like either way. I love you either way. Joy, No,
Speaker 1: I'm still straight. Um. I usually like to it's like
Speaker 1: second date, um, because and it's just a meat and greet,
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I picked me up at the house.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like whether I'm like not ready yet
Speaker 1: and I give them a chance of just like sitting
Speaker 1: chat in the living room for a second. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't mind some like what if you have a
Speaker 1: date like every week, it's a lot, don't judge. I
Speaker 1: guess you haven't hung out with me in a while.
Speaker 1: What's joy were talking about ten years ago? That is
Speaker 1: not my life. No, I'm I'm I'm a very slow,
Speaker 1: shy date. Or yeah, it doesn't and I'm not like
Speaker 1: so your second date is probably like my six months.
Speaker 1: I just it's just not like I'm just I think
Speaker 1: the problem is I'm attracted to very few people. I'm
Speaker 1: just really not attracted to people most of the time.
Speaker 1: What are you attracted to? Um? Well, uh, it's that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't really have a type. It's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to tell. It's it's there's just something.
Speaker 1: There's just something that happens. And um, I'm attracted to
Speaker 1: all uh races, all like body types, Like there's there's
Speaker 1: no that large skin, yeah totally, Like, yeah, I love
Speaker 1: a chubby guy. I love like I love a guy
Speaker 1: that's shape, but like I'm not Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: generally want somebody kind of bigger, like big and strong,
Speaker 1: like I'd like to feel like I'm being enveloped in
Speaker 1: big arms. Um, it's always like nice, nice and Lumberjack feeling. Um.
Speaker 1: But but you know Johansen Jack. But yeah, so it
Speaker 1: just doesn't end soli, especially in l A. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm more of a kind of a homegrown
Speaker 1: girl and um, I don't know, I'm just not attracted
Speaker 1: to that many people. So do you think So you're
Speaker 1: still living in l A? Yeah? Is that where your
Speaker 1: new show shoots? It is, Yes, we're in Is that amazing?
Speaker 1: And l A? I know I got so lucky. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: So you're on a new show called Pearson, Yes, And
Speaker 1: it's a spin off of Suits, right right. So it's
Speaker 1: Jessica Pearson, who was one of the head lawyers. She
Speaker 1: she was the head of the firm at at um
Speaker 1: Pear's Inspector Litt And she was disbarred by me thank
Speaker 1: you and uh. And she moves to Chicago, where her
Speaker 1: family is, and kind of gets tied up in the
Speaker 1: world of dirty politics and she can't technically function as
Speaker 1: a lawyer. So she's working for the mayor with this
Speaker 1: amazing office, but nobody really knows what she does and
Speaker 1: technically I'm her boss, but I can't fire her, and
Speaker 1: she does whatever she wants and you know, creates havoc
Speaker 1: and so it's fun interesting. Yeah, Okay, I just I've
Speaker 1: actually talked to Paul about the too is you are
Speaker 1: one of the best actresses that we've ever worked with,
Speaker 1: and he said that I've I've always said that, I mean,
Speaker 1: you are you are truly the most Um how do
Speaker 1: I say, like, you're just so present in scenes and
Speaker 1: you're so believable and you're so real. I was It's
Speaker 1: it's always an honor to say that, Like I've acted
Speaker 1: alongside you because you're so so talented. So I'm just
Speaker 1: I've always know, I've sincerely, I've always been your cheerleader, UM,
Speaker 1: since leaving One tra Hill, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: really excited when you got um offered Songbird and because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, that's going to be amazing
Speaker 1: for her. And UM, I've just always kind of followed
Speaker 1: what you've done because I never understood why you you
Speaker 1: haven't broken out, because I think you've You're fantastic. So
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that you have the show now
Speaker 1: and you're kicking ass and you know you're you're doing
Speaker 1: your thing too. Yeah, it's it's all God's timing. And
Speaker 1: I've learned so much. And the more that I look
Speaker 1: back on my life and um, the things that I've
Speaker 1: gone through and the different opportunities I've had and have
Speaker 1: have turned down, our opportunities I haven't had and missed,
Speaker 1: and all those sorts of things, the more I see
Speaker 1: sort of like divine hand just guiding everything, um to
Speaker 1: get me where I am today, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I would never have been ready for it before. I
Speaker 1: just wouldn't have been healthy enough to know what to
Speaker 1: do with that kind of responsibility, you know, and that
Speaker 1: funny the things seemed to come just at the right
Speaker 1: time when you're ready. Yeah, it's so frustrating too because
Speaker 1: you don't understand, like why didn't I get this role,
Speaker 1: Why didn't I get this or what you know, why
Speaker 1: is this happening? But if things would have happened on
Speaker 1: a different timeline, you wouldn't have been able to fulfill
Speaker 1: your potential in them exactly if it was at a
Speaker 1: different time. So then how do you stay calm? Like
Speaker 1: how do you, how do you stay in that piece
Speaker 1: of not getting so upset about something or just knowing
Speaker 1: that it's not the right time. It's still actively fighting.
Speaker 1: I mean that's look, it's a daily thing. It's not
Speaker 1: like super easy, not like I flipped a switch. But
Speaker 1: um do I do believe in that saying that you know,
Speaker 1: God always gives us what we would have asked for
Speaker 1: if we knew everything that He knows or it knows
Speaker 1: or whatever. Um So for me, there's a real comfort
Speaker 1: there in knowing that, uh, you know, I have an
Speaker 1: active faith and active per life. I'm um involved in
Speaker 1: my friends lives and you know, I have a what
Speaker 1: am I trying to say? Like, like I am, I'm
Speaker 1: actively trying to be uh conscious of the way I
Speaker 1: am in the world and make wise decisions. But I
Speaker 1: only have a limited view, and at some point I've
Speaker 1: got to just let go of control. And the more
Speaker 1: I let go, the easier things are and the better
Speaker 1: things tend to go So hard though, because you just well,
Speaker 1: especially with our careers and stuff. I mean, you know now, Mike,
Speaker 1: you're you know you knew too with your football. You
Speaker 1: just never know when Yeah, you're not like I just said,
Speaker 1: the day, I was like, I'm never I told my
Speaker 1: trainer Aaron. I was like, you know, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm never going to act again. I'm never gonna it. No,
Speaker 1: you're good. I booked a movie like two days later.
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where you get to
Speaker 1: that point where like, well, I guess this isn't like
Speaker 1: your cards anymore, because you just get so you get
Speaker 1: so defeated. Oh yeah, well I had quit before I
Speaker 1: got Pearson. I called my managers. Oh yeah, I called
Speaker 1: my managers. I called everybody. I was like, guys, um,
Speaker 1: it's rent, it's course, I'm done. Nobody's hiring me. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I can't I can take this rejection
Speaker 1: when I was twenty, right, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 1: I have a kid, and I'm a good writer. I'm
Speaker 1: a good director. Um, I'm a musician. I can make
Speaker 1: things and sell them on Etsy. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of I gotta like I have to
Speaker 1: find a way and I just can't keep going on
Speaker 1: auditions and um. This came in like a couple of
Speaker 1: months later, and it was one of the few that
Speaker 1: they sent me that they were like, please just we
Speaker 1: think you should go on this. Are you serious? Wow?
Speaker 1: And you're just you just were like all right, I'll
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, but it was hard. It was so
Speaker 1: hard because it's like to be able to just to
Speaker 1: be able to let go of caring whether or not
Speaker 1: people like you. I mean that's really a thing, right,
Speaker 1: Like in our industry or in the public eye, our
Speaker 1: our viability relies on whether or not people like us.
Speaker 1: So we're constantly trying to do things to make sure
Speaker 1: that we're on the likable page and to get to
Speaker 1: a point where you just don't care, which is just
Speaker 1: so screwed up because most of our childhood wounds are
Speaker 1: from not feeling good enough completely. So it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: just tapping into the childhood wounds, just really just hitting
Speaker 1: the world core. Thanks people. Oh yeah, yeah, it's brutal. God. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: moving on though, because I know I'm going to get
Speaker 1: totally chastasis is at the word if I don't ask
Speaker 1: questions about One Tree Hill, I mean they're gonna be
Speaker 1: like you had around the show and didn't as one
Speaker 1: question about One Tree Hill. The best thing about One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, oh man, the experience, Like that's really I know,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's such a vague answer. The best thing
Speaker 1: about one Tree Hill I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: couldn't say. One best thing living in Wilmington's getting the
Speaker 1: chance to live on my own and work on my
Speaker 1: own end and be a successful woman in entertainment at
Speaker 1: twenty years old. To you know, like that, that was
Speaker 1: an extraordinary experience. I fell flat on my face in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and I thrived in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, and it was just, um, a total once
Speaker 1: in a lifetime and singularly unique experience. Would you love
Speaker 1: most about Haley? Oh? I guess I just love that
Speaker 1: she was, Um, it's always willing to grow, you know
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Is stubborn as she was?
Speaker 1: She was, she was always willing to grow at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Um, what was your favorite thing
Speaker 1: about Hill? Yeah? I don't know. You've never to watch
Speaker 1: an episodes. How would you know if I was on
Speaker 1: one favorite a thing about When Tree Hill was being
Speaker 1: directed by me, you were an amazing director. You were
Speaker 1: so good. No, but seriously, like, what did what did
Speaker 1: you love about that you were down there for you?
Speaker 1: Did you live down there or were they bringing you in?
Speaker 1: But I feel like you lived there for a while.
Speaker 1: With that, I lived there. Yeah, No, I lived there
Speaker 1: the entire time. Um, it was hard for us because
Speaker 1: I felt like when we came on the show, just
Speaker 1: being so honest, it was a very divided So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I feel like everyone kind of already had their
Speaker 1: places and it was either going to be on the
Speaker 1: A team or the B team, you know, essentially, and
Speaker 1: it was it was just tricky. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I think our creator also kind of created that environment
Speaker 1: for us as well, which obviously he's you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what he's doing now, but so I think
Speaker 1: that was that was probably the hard part about it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I just enjoyed. I loved my character.
Speaker 1: She was so Alex was just really fun. It's funky
Speaker 1: and got to be like super creative, and um, you
Speaker 1: had you were such a firecracker. You always had such
Speaker 1: a great energy. I loved being in scenes with you
Speaker 1: because it was like there was somebody was like it
Speaker 1: was a firecracker in the room, like you never knew
Speaker 1: what was going to go up. It was great. It
Speaker 1: was me And then because I lived I lived with
Speaker 1: Sophia in Austin, actually lived with them. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah. Yeah. We lived downtown on first first St.
Speaker 1: That's how out of it I was. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't really spend a lot of time together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I was in my own world. I was married,
Speaker 1: I was like as and I was through a lot
Speaker 1: of and just like checked out of a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff for a while. Yeah. But you guys lived downtown
Speaker 1: where I was. We were above this bar. It was
Speaker 1: so annoying how you can't really tell a bar to
Speaker 1: like stop. But no, you know, I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: have to film in the morning, can you shut up?
Speaker 1: It was awful. I hated it. We lived there for
Speaker 1: like a year and a half. And then the other
Speaker 1: year we lived in Wrightsville. That was great out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was really nice. But I mean Wilmington was
Speaker 1: it was just a small town. Yeah, but I did
Speaker 1: enjoy obviously I enjoyed it. But you know, looking back,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of things that I would have
Speaker 1: probably done differently. But I think that's we can all
Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, sure, that's what your twenties are four,
Speaker 1: that's right. I know. I got Jane twenties. I just
Speaker 1: she wasn't thriving she was she thought she was she
Speaker 1: was not. Um, would if you could go back, what
Speaker 1: would you do differently this time around? If there was
Speaker 1: to be a one tree hill point point you mean,
Speaker 1: go back to my twenties or like like all went back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if everyone went back, which I doubt that would. Do
Speaker 1: you think that ever happened? I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think if you get Sofia to sign back on, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think there's enough money that I think
Speaker 1: you could they already to. I mean I think you
Speaker 1: do you think so? Yeah? Yeah, I think so. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think it would have did none of it
Speaker 1: would have to go to the show runner. I think
Speaker 1: that's a problem. That's the problem is that the creator
Speaker 1: of the show makes money on the any incarnation of
Speaker 1: the show afterwards, and of course that's its own issue.
Speaker 1: So I think that would be the big thing standing
Speaker 1: in the way. Um, unless he was like willing to
Speaker 1: donate it all or something. Right, if you could go back,
Speaker 1: he would direct everything? No, everything, that's right. No, I would,
Speaker 1: I would. I don't know. It would be great to
Speaker 1: just go back and not have it feel like it
Speaker 1: was divided in any way or like you know when
Speaker 1: we were going through a rough patch that people would
Speaker 1: I think we're all just older now, would be so
Speaker 1: much easier to just like and really enjoy each other's
Speaker 1: company and enjoy showing up at work, appreciate having a job,
Speaker 1: appreciate being someplace where we know we have such a
Speaker 1: huge fan base. It's just all stuff that I know,
Speaker 1: very few twenty year old and twenty five year olds
Speaker 1: who are capable of that kind of understanding forever, that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, who honestly the only person
Speaker 1: on that set who I think actually got it at
Speaker 1: at young age was James. Oh yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1: He's the only person that like knew how fleeting it
Speaker 1: was and how lucky he was. But I also think
Speaker 1: it's a girl thing too. I think girls have a
Speaker 1: hard time. I think, you know, just an outsiders standpoint,
Speaker 1: you know, is everyone wants to maybe be the star,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, my talking out of my mouth?
Speaker 1: Is that wrong? I mean feeling oh yeah, like you
Speaker 1: mean like having competition or yeah, the competition, which is
Speaker 1: there's a healthy competition, but at the same time it's
Speaker 1: just in your everybody's just insecure. Yeah, So I think
Speaker 1: it would be you know, now that we're older, hags,
Speaker 1: we could definitely all go back. Yeah, I do remember.
Speaker 1: I do remember having moments of those of just like yeah,
Speaker 1: you're just in the hair and makeup trailer and you're
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh this she looks prettier than me today,
Speaker 1: or like why why does my hair this color? And
Speaker 1: why is hers get to beat that color? And what?
Speaker 1: You know, it's just stupid. It's just everything that you
Speaker 1: feel when you're in sixth grade and you just don't
Speaker 1: grow out of it until you're like late twenties. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you know, right well that hope so well now though,
Speaker 1: I mean, you get to really create the environment that
Speaker 1: you want on your new show. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what day is airing again? Because I know it just
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Speaker 1: It's really great. I love it. Well everyone, please UM
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Speaker 1: you watch one? Triana? I think, I really, I really
Speaker 1: think it'd be funny. It would be funny, but it
Speaker 1: has to entertain me. What do you mean, Like, if
Speaker 1: we're getting through it and I'm just like, this is unbearable,
Speaker 1: you don't think it entertained you. I mean, I hope.
Speaker 1: So how many episodes do you really honestly have to
Speaker 1: get because it took me three episodes to get into
Speaker 1: Big Little Eyes the first season? How many episodes are
Speaker 1: in the season at One Tree Hill? God like two?
Speaker 1: Is it thirty minute show our? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it's an hour. I think it's an hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's because back in the day they used
Speaker 1: to do twenty two episodes, and now it's like six episodes.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, wait a minute, I just waited
Speaker 1: this table. I just waited you know, six months, seven months?
Speaker 1: Show show? How many episodes? There's a hundred seven episodes.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's go. It's available on Hello now. Oh.
Speaker 1: I think they actually just got off Netflix. They just
Speaker 1: they recently just got off Netflix, which is a massive
Speaker 1: bummer because that had been easy. Uh. Season one itself
Speaker 1: is episodes. I mean that was how it was back
Speaker 1: in the day, like you would do two episodes. I
Speaker 1: mean I think I did fifteen episodes in season you know,
Speaker 1: season seven what man IMDb like every episode is like
Speaker 1: nine point five nine point two. Yeah, And people love
Speaker 1: the show. I love it. I mean they're I mean,
Speaker 1: look at my shows. That's the only reason that I
Speaker 1: have people coming to my show, just because we just
Speaker 1: talk about that. We need to talk about it. Do
Speaker 1: you need to talk about that? Michael? Did you end
Speaker 1: up seeing the whole video that I sent of Eastern
Speaker 1: singing on stage? The entire video, not the entire video,
Speaker 1: just the thing that I sent you. I sent you
Speaker 1: a longer, better version of it, and it was Amy
Speaker 1: send emails of the incredible note there was even I
Speaker 1: haven't watched forgot about it Easton. Can you just describe
Speaker 1: how that was for you? You want to just set
Speaker 1: the scene for everybody that was That was one of
Speaker 1: the greatest moments of my entire life. Um. I went
Speaker 1: to see Jana perform at the Anaheim House of Blues
Speaker 1: and you know, like any of the fan that's really excited. Um,
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Janna texted me on the way
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, you know, I'm feeling kind of sick.
Speaker 1: My voice is pretty gone and you just sing along
Speaker 1: really loud tonight. And I was like, I got you,
Speaker 1: no problem. And then uh, when we were at the show,
Speaker 1: like Janna like shouted me out a couple of times,
Speaker 1: which made me feel pretty cool to the two people
Speaker 1: around me. And uh, when you like invited me up
Speaker 1: on stage, I I thought you were just gonna be like,
Speaker 1: m hey, everybody, this is Eastern He's he works on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Everyone say hi, okay, Sibo, go back to
Speaker 1: your scenes. But I had no idea I was gonna
Speaker 1: You're gonna let me sing the whole song. I felt
Speaker 1: bad for everyone who it was Whiskey, the song we sang,
Speaker 1: and that's like, that's a huge song. It's a massive song.
Speaker 1: I felt bad for everyone who came to see that
Speaker 1: song and then got up there and then but oh
Speaker 1: my god, what a fun time that was. That was
Speaker 1: just so much fun. Tan, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: having me up there, Oh my gosh. Of course, And
Speaker 1: for those of you that want to see the video,
Speaker 1: I put it up on my Instagram page, the entire thing,
Speaker 1: and I just love the fact and I even, oh,
Speaker 1: you pun enough, Oh this is you. You're like walking
Speaker 1: up from the entire Wow, look at this crowd. I know,
Speaker 1: I told you it was like one of my biggest
Speaker 1: crowdand there he grabs his mike. I'm surprised you didn't
Speaker 1: have like any ears in your back pocket. Let's do
Speaker 1: this right. No, but he you know, I wrote in
Speaker 1: my caption, I said, you know, this is a reminder
Speaker 1: to everyone to basically own the moment that you have
Speaker 1: and too, you know, I mean you embrace it. And
Speaker 1: my mic went off went out, Mike. Yeah, so my mike,
Speaker 1: my voice was pretty much shot to help, but my
Speaker 1: my mike went off out and I was like pointing
Speaker 1: to my monitor guy and he's like, hey, you have
Speaker 1: to bring me the mic. And then Easton started just
Speaker 1: jumping up and running around and singing the wrestle. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's sang the entire like second part of the song
Speaker 1: by himself and just owned it so amazingly. I was
Speaker 1: so proud of you, Easton. You just I mean, you
Speaker 1: killed it. There are some people that hit me up
Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, that was planned right, like and
Speaker 1: you planned for her Mike to go out, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not sabotage jam. But Jane
Speaker 1: and I were talking about that, like when she had
Speaker 1: got home and we were talking more about it. You
Speaker 1: do you have this in the ability to just seize
Speaker 1: a moment and it's like all those things like how
Speaker 1: many times, like I know I can say in my life, Jane,
Speaker 1: you can probably saying yours where you had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to do something wild and crazy like that, and then
Speaker 1: you just your inhibitions, your inhibitions stopped you. And you're
Speaker 1: like I know that, no, no, no. But then a
Speaker 1: few days later you're like, why didn't I just do that?
Speaker 1: Here's how I look? Who cares how I sound? Just
Speaker 1: do it? And you do that, like I feel like
Speaker 1: every time I've been in a situation where you've had
Speaker 1: that opportunity, you just take it. Well, thank you, thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: I mean it means a lot to hear uh that
Speaker 1: That night, specifically at the house of is like that
Speaker 1: was when we were driving Allison and I were driving
Speaker 1: home my wife Allison, and we were like, I was
Speaker 1: just like, I I am so happy with how I
Speaker 1: handled that, Like, because there are there's a lot of
Speaker 1: times on it on a daily basis where I go, oh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that, or I should I should
Speaker 1: done something differently, But that was when I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I really I could have screwed that up, and I
Speaker 1: think I did it pretty well. You I mean, man,
Speaker 1: you didn't do it pretty well. You owned it, and
Speaker 1: it just made me so happy because again, like to
Speaker 1: Mike's point, there's so many times where you could have
Speaker 1: even been on the drive home be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: could have been funnier. I really could have done it
Speaker 1: and I could have like really, I mean, but you
Speaker 1: did it like you were you and you freaking like
Speaker 1: saying it like saying your heart out, which, by the way, Easton,
Speaker 1: I didn't know you also had um a song, I uh,
Speaker 1: musical background on a second? Right now? Are you ready
Speaker 1: for this? Oh my god shine? This is East Now
Speaker 1: and sound and Theory. You can get it on Spotify.
Speaker 1: Will say, I have an EP on Spotify hack Spotify.
Speaker 1: This is this is not chos. There's a music video
Speaker 1: for this long what is it? Yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: pretty long intro with the DJ to talk that one up.
Speaker 1: But I will say I will say that was my
Speaker 1: one time. Everyone all of your fans and are so nice.
Speaker 1: And I got so many cool messages from people. Everybody
Speaker 1: was really nice. The closest thing I got to like
Speaker 1: someone like trolling me. Someone d n me and said, um,
Speaker 1: what you lack in singing ability? You make up for
Speaker 1: a new dance moves And I'm like, sweet, do you
Speaker 1: take a listen? And I just send it the link
Speaker 1: to the Spotify the Spotify album. It's just like I
Speaker 1: stand corrected and it's it's a it's called low self esteem.
Speaker 1: So where did But here's the thing. You have a
Speaker 1: song called throat Tattoo. I love how this interview is
Speaker 1: like now turned to like re interview easton the Best.
Speaker 1: I I don't I don't agree, do you do you
Speaker 1: think you have a low self esteem. Um. The reason
Speaker 1: I called it that I wrote all those songs like
Speaker 1: in and Um, I I thought that it because I
Speaker 1: play every instrument. I wrote all the songs and I
Speaker 1: sing every like the whole thing is just me. It's
Speaker 1: just just me. And so I thought that it was
Speaker 1: very much like a look at me, look at me.
Speaker 1: I clearly have self esteem problems. I can pay attention
Speaker 1: to me. Look at all the stuff that I did,
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like so it was it
Speaker 1: was called like Eastern has low self esteem, was like
Speaker 1: the idea behind it. But um, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think I've had a lot of issues with that back then,
Speaker 1: but I think I've fixed them now. I think I'm
Speaker 1: a pretty cold person at this point. You got to
Speaker 1: be a confident person to do what you did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I and I love that about you. So wrapping
Speaker 1: that up, I was gonna say, I just I really
Speaker 1: appreciate you being there for me that day because I
Speaker 1: will tell you you were the only friend that actually
Speaker 1: showed up to Oh my god, I mean now all
Speaker 1: my fans and my friends, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like my people that I actually know. You were the
Speaker 1: only one that showed up. Well, the other people said
Speaker 1: they were going to come and they didn't come, So
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well, Jan, if you come anywhere on
Speaker 1: the West Coast, I will go to that show. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan, and uh, I'm I'm very very
Speaker 1: grateful to to call you my friend. What are we
Speaker 1: gonna say, Michael, um, I was gonna say, moving on
Speaker 1: to a more important topic, why you were kind of
Speaker 1: fringing this morning? Eastern? How many times have you watched
Speaker 1: Endgames since it's been out? I we we bought it
Speaker 1: on iTunes and I turned it onto like the Middle
Speaker 1: just to what I wanted to rewatch one scene and Alison,
Speaker 1: I just watched the whole thing, that's the way through.
Speaker 1: I've seen it like three times since it's been on
Speaker 1: home video. Absolutely, can we watch it together one time?
Speaker 1: I'd love to watch it so I can fall asleep
Speaker 1: to it. If I have to know what's going on,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it all matters. So I couldn't watch it,
Speaker 1: But Eastern I watched it. It came out, and I
Speaker 1: watched it over the series of like this past weekend,
Speaker 1: like on my flight back east to Baltimore, because I
Speaker 1: was going there for a golf tournament nightly for a
Speaker 1: few minutes till I fell asleep, and then finished it
Speaker 1: on the plane coming back yesterday or Sunday. Yes Sunday,
Speaker 1: and I'm on the plane. I had the last hour
Speaker 1: to watch, which is like the best. That last hour
Speaker 1: is amazing and the same part still got me. I
Speaker 1: was getting TV eyed on the plane, a pack Southwest
Speaker 1: flight on the aisle watching the end of Endgame with
Speaker 1: tears in my eyes. I've seen that movie like nine
Speaker 1: or ten times at this point, I still get goose
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Speaker 1: say something though, since you know this is a relational podcast,
Speaker 1: you were kind of in a mood this morning on
Speaker 1: the way here. On the way here, yeah, you just
Speaker 1: seemed really agitated at me for some reason. I was
Speaker 1: just curious if you want to talk about it on air.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. I just felt like
Speaker 1: you you were hungry, so we were having a conversation.
Speaker 1: Then then you're like, I'm gonna go eat because I
Speaker 1: know you get hungry. Then you eat, but then I
Speaker 1: don't feel like you recovered from your angry nous and
Speaker 1: then you just kind of felt So I was just
Speaker 1: still processing and realizing that feelings that I had we're
Speaker 1: just um, I don't know the word. They were just
Speaker 1: feelings that are having from something that I said before
Speaker 1: we left the room. I just kind of let it marinate.
Speaker 1: It's like, do I need to say something back to this?
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I don't. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: need to create more of an issue on something that
Speaker 1: we've already talked about. So it's actually it's me growing
Speaker 1: up would actually what it is? Are you sure? Because
Speaker 1: I actually be like, hand here any emotions because I
Speaker 1: want you to be able to know I am sure.
Speaker 1: And it was just me. I think on the car
Speaker 1: right here, you know we're both doing You're doing some
Speaker 1: stuff on your phone and I just I'll still pros
Speaker 1: It's like, do I wanted to talk about what I
Speaker 1: was letting you be quiet? I was. I was trying
Speaker 1: to be quiet because I could I could sense it,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to bring it up. I was
Speaker 1: just like, all right, if he's gonna talk to me,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be what's wrong, babe, because
Speaker 1: you always get mad at me about that. So I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, if he's gonna if there's something
Speaker 1: he wants to talk about, he's going to bring it
Speaker 1: to me, and I'm just gonna kind of do my
Speaker 1: thing right now. Yeah, and again after and as I
Speaker 1: continue to process in the car ride to the studio,
Speaker 1: I just realize even further. I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't need to to say anything on this. I don't.
Speaker 1: I just need to show up and get things, you know,
Speaker 1: do what we talked about. And you're not holding any resentment. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm honestly not. I'm just to let it
Speaker 1: go and I'm just like bringing this certain thing back
Speaker 1: up on something that we're working on. I was like,
Speaker 1: I just it's not gonna go anywhere. It's not going
Speaker 1: to solve anything else, So why don't I just let
Speaker 1: it go? Not push it down, but let it go
Speaker 1: and move on and I feel better because of it.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I'm trying to be an adult after I
Speaker 1: talk about Avengers. So okay, Well, if it comes back
Speaker 1: up then and it's still in new then I would
Speaker 1: like to hear you out. I appreciate that. I appreciate,
Speaker 1: appreciate appreciating that. Appreciate your appreciation, appreciating an emails we
Speaker 1: do we do um. This one's from Danielle, not our
Speaker 1: producer Danielle, A different Danielle. How do you balance home, family,
Speaker 1: life and friends. I feel like since I've had my baby,
Speaker 1: I find it really hard to hang out with my
Speaker 1: previous friends. I crave a friendship outside the one my
Speaker 1: husband and I have, but it's hard finding good common
Speaker 1: ground with others. I wish I had more mom friends.
Speaker 1: Any tips. It's so hard two juggle all of those
Speaker 1: things because you want to be a good mom, you
Speaker 1: want to be a good wife. You also want to
Speaker 1: be a good friend, and unfortunately the friend one always
Speaker 1: seems to fall a little bit more by the wayside
Speaker 1: depending on your personality, I guess, but as it as
Speaker 1: it should. For sure, the hierarchy should be your spouse
Speaker 1: and kids, and then your friends. Yeah, no, for sure,
Speaker 1: but it's also like you like, just like you you
Speaker 1: need your time to go to have it. You have
Speaker 1: to have it. So again it's for the wife, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like we don't we need it too, and it's
Speaker 1: hard for us to do that when we feel like
Speaker 1: we're juggling. We have so much responsibility right that you
Speaker 1: guys put on yourselves. And even again, we talked about
Speaker 1: how many times we talked about here I have to
Speaker 1: physically like push you out of the house to do something.
Speaker 1: It's a little easier here in Nashville because of your
Speaker 1: core group here, but still it's you know, I've met
Speaker 1: a few mom friends at parks. Parks are a really
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Speaker 1: to meet some mama's. But I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: or even just even just calling you for like sometimes
Speaker 1: like I'll do my girlfriend Christen and I like we'll
Speaker 1: have Skype dates where we just have a glass of
Speaker 1: wine and because we can't leave because we don't have
Speaker 1: a sitter or you know, and we just skype and
Speaker 1: drink wine that way. And you know, if her friends
Speaker 1: are just not in that place of life yet still
Speaker 1: talk tell her friends that be like, hey, guys, I
Speaker 1: really miss you and I would love to hang out.
Speaker 1: I can't leave if he gets the baby's gonna be sleeping.
Speaker 1: You know, we can't get ssider. My husband's here. That
Speaker 1: can y'all come over or one friend you you just
Speaker 1: want to come over and have some wine or watch
Speaker 1: it just wherever it is, have them come to you.
Speaker 1: A friend will do that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You just have some grace with yourself. It's a new
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a new time of your life,
Speaker 1: and you have to You'll get real, You'll you'll get
Speaker 1: adjusted to it. It's just new. Yeah. And when you
Speaker 1: first have if it's like a true baby, like when
Speaker 1: you first have them, if it's your first and they're
Speaker 1: really young, it seems like there's no light the end
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Speaker 1: I thought I thought when we had Jason, those first
Speaker 1: three months, I was like I guess I'm never going
Speaker 1: to step outside this house and I'm never going to
Speaker 1: be able to wash my hair and curl it and
Speaker 1: put them make up. And now it's like, okay, he's
Speaker 1: curling around. Yeah, And I thought, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna pay golf game. I'm never gonna see anybody
Speaker 1: in this past weekend. I was golfing all weekend. Look
Speaker 1: at you, now, look at us? Now? Anything else? System? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That we got one from anonymous. Those are always good.
Speaker 1: I've been living with my boyfriend for about a year.
Speaker 1: I have a two and a half year old son. Lately,
Speaker 1: the topic of money has become a very source subject.
Speaker 1: We work for the same company. He makes three times
Speaker 1: as much as I do. I recently have found a
Speaker 1: passion of mine that I want to follow as a career,
Speaker 1: but in order to do so, I would need to
Speaker 1: cut back to part time. That idea was shut down immediately.
Speaker 1: I said that I would move in with my parents
Speaker 1: to save money, and he said, do it, but I
Speaker 1: know that our relationship would not last. How would you
Speaker 1: handle this situation. I think that's not fair that he's
Speaker 1: saying you can't do something if it's something you want
Speaker 1: to do, right. Yeah, I get, you know, from a
Speaker 1: practical mindset, you know, I get the financial part of it,
Speaker 1: like maybe why he would have maybe some concerns, express
Speaker 1: those as concerns, but ultimately he should be supportive. I mean,
Speaker 1: she does have a son, though, so she has to
Speaker 1: be mindful of how she's supporting her son. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so if it's just him supporting, that's that's tricky because
Speaker 1: you know it's your Yeah, if you guys are just dating,
Speaker 1: that's a different scenario. If you guys were married or
Speaker 1: even engaged, I think that would be yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: If if they were a little bit more serious in
Speaker 1: their status of their relationship, then yeah, it would be
Speaker 1: probably easier for him to to justify you know, all right,
Speaker 1: absolutely I support that. I'll support you and your son.
Speaker 1: He make three times as much at the same company,
Speaker 1: should be able to do that. But because I mean,
Speaker 1: what if I was like I I want to quit
Speaker 1: all this or not quit all this, but I want
Speaker 1: to start part time, Like I want to start a
Speaker 1: wedding because I love wedding planning. I want to do
Speaker 1: a wedding planning thing, and but I know that's not
Speaker 1: realistic because I have to support the family, you know,
Speaker 1: and work and do these other things. And you would
Speaker 1: be like, whoa, it would be hard nor situation because
Speaker 1: we work together, all right. But I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: if we were you know, I don't know, right, but still,
Speaker 1: if if when I was doing medical sales and you
Speaker 1: said that I just want to quit entertainment altogether and
Speaker 1: I want to focus on start my own event playing business,
Speaker 1: I'll be for it. We'd make it work, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean er weddings. This sounds a lot like,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jim, Pam and Roy triangle in the office.
Speaker 1: Oh God, Eastern did you watch the office? You know,
Speaker 1: the office as a whole. In my in my entertainment background,
Speaker 1: I've never seen no one. I got no one on
Speaker 1: here to understand the reference, describe it to it than honey.
Speaker 1: Pam was engaged to Roy. She wanted to go into
Speaker 1: graphic design and do more art stuff and maybe a
Speaker 1: job as a secretary. Roy was like, what are we
Speaker 1: gonna do for money? Even though he worked there too
Speaker 1: in the warehouse. And Jim, who's your friend? But they
Speaker 1: really loved each other. They haven't confessed it yet. Jim
Speaker 1: was like, do it is what you want to do
Speaker 1: it and everyone watching it's just like, yes, Jim, Pam,
Speaker 1: that's why you should be with Jim. You're reading us
Speaker 1: a bedtime story about the office. It was very soothing.
Speaker 1: I hope there's a listeners that about email was the chair? Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because the other day when we were
Speaker 1: in bed and we were about to get a little
Speaker 1: closer cuddling, he's like you want to come over? He's
Speaker 1: like baby coming in. He's like, come on my chest
Speaker 1: and I was like OK. And then I lean over,
Speaker 1: I lift the sheets up and I was like holy
Speaker 1: he dutch ovened me and was just like good night,
Speaker 1: turned around and went to bed. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: best way, not the intimate. Good job on you. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to be well. That was like disgusting. It
Speaker 1: was like you had three eggs that were like what
Speaker 1: happened when you were in the bathroom still I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be gone, but I didn't let the
Speaker 1: cover to let it air out, and you walked into
Speaker 1: a death trap. Disgusting. I don't understand what do you
Speaker 1: want from me? What do you want from here? This
Speaker 1: is an appropriate email? Actually? Um, how do you keep
Speaker 1: the romancer intimacy alive when you have a gassy partner
Speaker 1: when you're trying to conceive. We've been trying for six
Speaker 1: months now, and my husband will complain that it feels scheduled, planned,
Speaker 1: and it's taking all the fun out of it. Do you, Mike,
Speaker 1: have any advice or suggestions for keeping it fun and
Speaker 1: intimate when actively trying to conceive. All right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get real aggressive on this. This is interesting. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get Can I go first? Please? But yeah, okay, um,
Speaker 1: and I know where Michael stance is because the guys
Speaker 1: are like, you know, I just feel like I'm just
Speaker 1: a machine. I have to look, it is hard for
Speaker 1: women to get pregnant. We have about two days out
Speaker 1: of the month. Stop. No, we have two days out
Speaker 1: of the months to get pregnant. Okay, And if we
Speaker 1: don't have sex on that to day they give us,
Speaker 1: they say a week, but you know, because the sperm
Speaker 1: can live and grow and fly up there. But really, truly,
Speaker 1: there's two days that I've been told and if we
Speaker 1: do not have sex on that day, and you guys
Speaker 1: do not ejaculate inside of us, then then we are
Speaker 1: screwed and have to wait a full other freaking month.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, when you're trying to get pregnant,
Speaker 1: there's so much fighting pressure. Sorry Eastern on us no,
Speaker 1: because it's like there's so much pressure when you're actually
Speaker 1: really physically trying. So then it gets frustrating when the
Speaker 1: guys like I just feel like whatever, like, well, you
Speaker 1: know what, we have to wait a full other month.
Speaker 1: We have it's like, we want to have kids. We
Speaker 1: don't want to have to keep waiting because we know
Speaker 1: that we only have a two day thing. So you
Speaker 1: know what, with everything that we have to deal with,
Speaker 1: I'm really getting angry right now with everything that we
Speaker 1: have to deal with. It's like I'm sorry that you
Speaker 1: guys feel that way, that you feel like it's boring
Speaker 1: or that know that it's just like I just feel
Speaker 1: like I have to do this and it feels so
Speaker 1: you know, scheduled and what yeah, you know what, it
Speaker 1: does okay, And every other time I'll let you turn
Speaker 1: me over and do whatever you want to do and
Speaker 1: have fun. But for those two days a month, can
Speaker 1: sorry Eastern, you know, knock on our door and say hey, baby,
Speaker 1: let's do let's make a baby, and let's be let's
Speaker 1: be excited and let's have that energy because you know what,
Speaker 1: it sucks for us to have to get to have
Speaker 1: to deal with this pregnancy. Okay, to try to freaking
Speaker 1: get pregnant. I love this how many women are listening
Speaker 1: to right now, like preach, like just pulling over the
Speaker 1: side of the road like yes, girl no, because you
Speaker 1: do not understand. It is so hard, it's so frustrating.
Speaker 1: And we have these little maybe baby apps and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the week, this is the week, like we
Speaker 1: have to do it and it really has to be
Speaker 1: and it's like I mean Michael and I sorry Easton,
Speaker 1: Michael and I. We even got into a fight about
Speaker 1: this the night Jason was conceived because I was like, honey,
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait another month to like please,
Speaker 1: I know, like can you just come inside of me?
Speaker 1: Because he's like I'm tired. Well, aren't you so glad
Speaker 1: that you did? Because that baby is get our marriage together.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Man, you would like to say anything, terrified
Speaker 1: to say anything, but this is perfect timing. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why. But first, you know, we're men, We're not
Speaker 1: pieces of meat. Do you know I was going to
Speaker 1: when you flip us over, you have we have feelings
Speaker 1: to two days out of the maybe light some candles,
Speaker 1: take us out somewhere, make us feel pretty. Okay, she
Speaker 1: when I light switches unbelievable. But it's funny because just
Speaker 1: just this past weekend, when I was with my buddies
Speaker 1: in Baltimore a golf tournament. I'll leave names out of
Speaker 1: it for nanimity, but one of my buddies, one of
Speaker 1: my buddies, his wife is opulating, and so we had
Speaker 1: to wake up early to tee off every morning. And
Speaker 1: she wakes him up like and as long as going
Speaker 1: off at six, She's like, hey, wake up, I'm ompulating.
Speaker 1: And he he rolls over, looks at the phone, sees
Speaker 1: your alarm. He's like, honey, that's a tall ask. Right now.
Speaker 1: He's like, I got a full day of golf. She's like,
Speaker 1: your golf she said that to him. Yeah, sorry, still
Speaker 1: you can bleep that out, but it's good good to keep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like, after your golf, He's like, honey. The fact
Speaker 1: that he turns out, he's like, that's a tall ask.
Speaker 1: I mean, but seriously, so ultimately, when we were done
Speaker 1: for the day before dinner, he went home, shower, took
Speaker 1: care of business, and it came back. Okay, good, good job.
Speaker 1: He was good after you know, he was tired and
Speaker 1: after golfing all day and on his feet in the
Speaker 1: hot sun drinking some beers, he went home did what
Speaker 1: he had to do. That would be a hard order,
Speaker 1: two drinking beers. But it was funny because we were
Speaker 1: talking about that, and a bunch of us that our
Speaker 1: dads have all been through that and have kids, and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, obviously we don't know what it's
Speaker 1: like to be on that schedule, and we tried to,
Speaker 1: but it's had the pressure of you know, our of
Speaker 1: tracking all that stuff and then knowing that we only
Speaker 1: have that much time and then we have to wait
Speaker 1: another month to maybe try to conceive again for that
Speaker 1: really short window. I think it's it's just funny because
Speaker 1: historically speaking, right men are the one who initiates sex,
Speaker 1: and so when we're faced with the opposite and we
Speaker 1: feel pressure, it's like all of a sudden, we're like,
Speaker 1: I'm not available. It's so messed up. It's just it's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's I would love to know the psychology, like a
Speaker 1: psychological study around it, because it is really interesting. It
Speaker 1: is interesting, but it's so frustrating though, and I feel
Speaker 1: I feel your pain. But here's for the make your
Speaker 1: husband listen to this. You just put on the husbands
Speaker 1: out there, please, just it's so hard on us and
Speaker 1: it would just be really nice if you guys just
Speaker 1: showed up and didn't freaking complain about it, because we
Speaker 1: have to go through so much. Yeah, and if like
Speaker 1: so for Ashley who wrote the email, if she was
Speaker 1: able to tell her husband ahead of time, yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: next month, these are the days. I'm obviously just like
Speaker 1: you tell me, okay, these are days, because it would
Speaker 1: help you feel less pressure. If I was the one
Speaker 1: who came to you, Hey, I know we have to
Speaker 1: have sex these days. No, I mean but I wanted,
Speaker 1: but I wanted you to be aware that I was
Speaker 1: going to be wanting for right. But it's great because
Speaker 1: then it's not like a surprise. Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: jump out and scare us. So yeah, bring again, scare us.
Speaker 1: It's like you guys want to have sex. I'm um,
Speaker 1: but no, I think that that helps and it helps
Speaker 1: you guys not feel so lone in the process, like
Speaker 1: when you showed me your calendar and brought me in
Speaker 1: on it and told me what days it helped me
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable. So I would do the same thing
Speaker 1: if I was actually well, I just can't really eat it.
Speaker 1: Good night luck. I'm just pro pro stay on the
Speaker 1: same page with ovulation it because that stuff so annoying.
Speaker 1: It's just another month. It's like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: let this stupid argument wait another month, and good good
Speaker 1: for you. But I had a friend who told me
Speaker 1: that they were trying to conceive and her husband came
Speaker 1: home from work and she's like, hey, I'm oveling this,
Speaker 1: this has to happen, and he's like, I'm too tired.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. So she had him take care
Speaker 1: of himself and then they had in a cup and
Speaker 1: they turkey based in yeah, and she just stood on
Speaker 1: she like did a headstand, and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that works or not, but that's what they did.
Speaker 1: And I thought that visual is really funny. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's one way to uh take I think all
Speaker 1: the intimacy out of it, but I get the job done.
Speaker 1: Almost offended. I know, right, I thought that was a
Speaker 1: weird way to do it. But but they're pregnant now
Speaker 1: hooray y Well, well, on that note, UM, I love
Speaker 1: you guys, and um we'll be on location next time.
Speaker 1: We talk to you from Louisiana