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Speaker 1: like why are you yawning? Sorry, Michael, just sit like

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Speaker 1: saying yawn is contagious? Really absolutely yeah, okay, um, okay,

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Speaker 1: but no, everyone has been asking I think every single

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Speaker 1: funny we're just talking before we start recording, is I

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Speaker 1: need to find like a new show to binge because

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Speaker 1: to finally pull the trigger on that you would actually

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Speaker 1: like it because there's like the basketball and they're scoring. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that stuff so cheesy when they try to do

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Speaker 1: is she there? She's here? Hi joy, honey, my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's been so long. When was the last time that

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Speaker 1: my husband Michael. Hi Michael. Technically Bethany Joy but sort

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Speaker 1: of meet you. Absolutely, um no Joy. I actually was

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Speaker 1: was me And then because I lived I lived with

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Speaker 1: Sophia in Austin, actually lived with them. Yeah, I had

426
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Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah. Yeah. We lived downtown on first first St.

427
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Speaker 1: That's how out of it I was. I mean, well,

428
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: we didn't really spend a lot of time together. Yeah,

429
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Speaker 1: I mean I was in my own world. I was married,

430
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Speaker 1: I was like as and I was through a lot

431
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Speaker 1: of and just like checked out of a lot of

432
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: stuff for a while. Yeah. But you guys lived downtown

433
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Speaker 1: where I was. We were above this bar. It was

434
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: so annoying how you can't really tell a bar to

435
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Speaker 1: like stop. But no, you know, I'm like, well, I

436
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: have to film in the morning, can you shut up?

437
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: It was awful. I hated it. We lived there for

438
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Speaker 1: like a year and a half. And then the other

439
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: year we lived in Wrightsville. That was great out there. Yeah,

440
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: so that was really nice. But I mean Wilmington was

441
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: it was just a small town. Yeah, but I did

442
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: enjoy obviously I enjoyed it. But you know, looking back,

443
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: there was a lot of things that I would have

444
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: probably done differently. But I think that's we can all

445
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, sure, that's what your twenties are four,

446
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: that's right. I know. I got Jane twenties. I just

447
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: she wasn't thriving she was she thought she was she

448
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: was not. Um, would if you could go back, what

449
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Speaker 1: would you do differently this time around? If there was

450
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Speaker 1: to be a one tree hill point point you mean,

451
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Speaker 1: go back to my twenties or like like all went back. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: if everyone went back, which I doubt that would. Do

453
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Speaker 1: you think that ever happened? I don't know. I don't.

454
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Speaker 1: I don't think if you get Sofia to sign back on, yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: I think I think there's enough money that I think

456
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Speaker 1: you could they already to. I mean I think you

457
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Speaker 1: do you think so? Yeah? Yeah, I think so. Um,

458
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: but I think it would have did none of it

459
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: would have to go to the show runner. I think

460
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: that's a problem. That's the problem is that the creator

461
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: of the show makes money on the any incarnation of

462
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: the show afterwards, and of course that's its own issue.

463
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: So I think that would be the big thing standing

464
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Speaker 1: in the way. Um, unless he was like willing to

465
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Speaker 1: donate it all or something. Right, if you could go back,

466
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Speaker 1: he would direct everything? No, everything, that's right. No, I would,

467
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Speaker 1: I would. I don't know. It would be great to

468
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Speaker 1: just go back and not have it feel like it

469
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Speaker 1: was divided in any way or like you know when

470
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Speaker 1: we were going through a rough patch that people would

471
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Speaker 1: I think we're all just older now, would be so

472
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Speaker 1: much easier to just like and really enjoy each other's

473
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Speaker 1: company and enjoy showing up at work, appreciate having a job,

474
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Speaker 1: appreciate being someplace where we know we have such a

475
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Speaker 1: huge fan base. It's just all stuff that I know,

476
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: very few twenty year old and twenty five year olds

477
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Speaker 1: who are capable of that kind of understanding forever, that's right.

478
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, who honestly the only person

479
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Speaker 1: on that set who I think actually got it at

480
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Speaker 1: at young age was James. Oh yeah, I can see that.

481
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: He's the only person that like knew how fleeting it

482
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Speaker 1: was and how lucky he was. But I also think

483
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Speaker 1: it's a girl thing too. I think girls have a

484
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Speaker 1: hard time. I think, you know, just an outsiders standpoint,

485
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, is everyone wants to maybe be the star,

486
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Speaker 1: and it's you know, my talking out of my mouth?

487
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Speaker 1: Is that wrong? I mean feeling oh yeah, like you

488
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Speaker 1: mean like having competition or yeah, the competition, which is

489
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Speaker 1: there's a healthy competition, but at the same time it's

490
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Speaker 1: just in your everybody's just insecure. Yeah, So I think

491
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Speaker 1: it would be you know, now that we're older, hags,

492
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: we could definitely all go back. Yeah, I do remember.

493
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Speaker 1: I do remember having moments of those of just like yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: you're just in the hair and makeup trailer and you're

495
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Speaker 1: thinking like, oh this she looks prettier than me today,

496
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Speaker 1: or like why why does my hair this color? And

497
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Speaker 1: why is hers get to beat that color? And what?

498
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Speaker 1: You know, it's just stupid. It's just everything that you

499
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Speaker 1: feel when you're in sixth grade and you just don't

500
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Speaker 1: grow out of it until you're like late twenties. Hopefully

501
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, right well that hope so well now though,

502
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you get to really create the environment that

503
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: you want on your new show. And I'm just like,

504
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: what day is airing again? Because I know it just

505
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Speaker 1: on July seventeen, SOSS on Wednesday nights on USA at

506
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Speaker 1: ten nine central um. And it is a great cast.

507
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: It's really it's a great cast of lovely adults who

508
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Speaker 1: all seriously appreciate having a job, and not just a job,

509
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: but a job where we really get to enjoy what

510
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: we do and we love the writing and we love

511
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Speaker 1: the people we're working with, and um, we're having fun.

512
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Speaker 1: It's really great. I love it. Well everyone, please UM

513
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Speaker 1: watch the show. Joy's the best actress ever, so you

514
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Speaker 1: not to be disappointed. Joy seriously, thank you. And UM,

515
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Speaker 1: if you're ever in Nashville, please, UM just let us know.

516
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Speaker 1: I will. I love it down there. Okay, thanks guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Once Jan and I had Jason, we

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Speaker 1: you watch one? Triana? I think, I really, I really

542
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: think it'd be funny. It would be funny, but it

543
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: has to entertain me. What do you mean, Like, if

544
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: we're getting through it and I'm just like, this is unbearable,

545
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: you don't think it entertained you. I mean, I hope.

546
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: So how many episodes do you really honestly have to

547
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: get because it took me three episodes to get into

548
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: Big Little Eyes the first season? How many episodes are

549
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: in the season at One Tree Hill? God like two?

550
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: Is it thirty minute show our? I don't know. I

551
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: think it's an hour. I think it's an hour. Yeah,

552
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: I think there's because back in the day they used

553
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: to do twenty two episodes, and now it's like six episodes.

554
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, wait a minute, I just waited

555
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: this table. I just waited you know, six months, seven months?

556
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: Show show? How many episodes? There's a hundred seven episodes.

557
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, let's go. It's available on Hello now. Oh.

558
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: I think they actually just got off Netflix. They just

559
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: they recently just got off Netflix, which is a massive

560
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: bummer because that had been easy. Uh. Season one itself

561
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: is episodes. I mean that was how it was back

562
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: in the day, like you would do two episodes. I

563
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: mean I think I did fifteen episodes in season you know,

564
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: season seven what man IMDb like every episode is like

565
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: nine point five nine point two. Yeah, And people love

566
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: the show. I love it. I mean they're I mean,

567
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: look at my shows. That's the only reason that I

568
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: have people coming to my show, just because we just

569
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: talk about that. We need to talk about it. Do

570
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: you need to talk about that? Michael? Did you end

571
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: up seeing the whole video that I sent of Eastern

572
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: singing on stage? The entire video, not the entire video,

573
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: just the thing that I sent you. I sent you

574
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: a longer, better version of it, and it was Amy

575
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: send emails of the incredible note there was even I

576
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Speaker 1: haven't watched forgot about it Easton. Can you just describe

577
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: how that was for you? You want to just set

578
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Speaker 1: the scene for everybody that was That was one of

579
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: the greatest moments of my entire life. Um. I went

580
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: to see Jana perform at the Anaheim House of Blues

581
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: and you know, like any of the fan that's really excited. Um,

582
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Janna texted me on the way

583
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, you know, I'm feeling kind of sick.

584
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: My voice is pretty gone and you just sing along

585
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: really loud tonight. And I was like, I got you,

586
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: no problem. And then uh, when we were at the show,

587
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: like Janna like shouted me out a couple of times,

588
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: which made me feel pretty cool to the two people

589
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: around me. And uh, when you like invited me up

590
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: on stage, I I thought you were just gonna be like,

591
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: m hey, everybody, this is Eastern He's he works on

592
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: the podcast. Everyone say hi, okay, Sibo, go back to

593
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: your scenes. But I had no idea I was gonna

594
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Speaker 1: You're gonna let me sing the whole song. I felt

595
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: bad for everyone who it was Whiskey, the song we sang,

596
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: and that's like, that's a huge song. It's a massive song.

597
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: I felt bad for everyone who came to see that

598
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: song and then got up there and then but oh

599
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Speaker 1: my god, what a fun time that was. That was

600
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Speaker 1: just so much fun. Tan, Thank you so much for

601
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: having me up there, Oh my gosh. Of course, And

602
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: for those of you that want to see the video,

603
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I put it up on my Instagram page, the entire thing,

604
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: and I just love the fact and I even, oh,

605
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: you pun enough, Oh this is you. You're like walking

606
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: up from the entire Wow, look at this crowd. I know,

607
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: I told you it was like one of my biggest

608
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: crowdand there he grabs his mike. I'm surprised you didn't

609
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: have like any ears in your back pocket. Let's do

610
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: this right. No, but he you know, I wrote in

611
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: my caption, I said, you know, this is a reminder

612
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: to everyone to basically own the moment that you have

613
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: and too, you know, I mean you embrace it. And

614
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: my mic went off went out, Mike. Yeah, so my mike,

615
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: my voice was pretty much shot to help, but my

616
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: my mike went off out and I was like pointing

617
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: to my monitor guy and he's like, hey, you have

618
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: to bring me the mic. And then Easton started just

619
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: jumping up and running around and singing the wrestle. I mean,

620
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: he's sang the entire like second part of the song

621
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Speaker 1: by himself and just owned it so amazingly. I was

622
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: so proud of you, Easton. You just I mean, you

623
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Speaker 1: killed it. There are some people that hit me up

624
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, that was planned right, like and

625
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: you planned for her Mike to go out, and I'm like,

626
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not sabotage jam. But Jane

627
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: and I were talking about that, like when she had

628
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: got home and we were talking more about it. You

629
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Speaker 1: do you have this in the ability to just seize

630
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Speaker 1: a moment and it's like all those things like how

631
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Speaker 1: many times, like I know I can say in my life, Jane,

632
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: you can probably saying yours where you had an opportunity

633
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: to do something wild and crazy like that, and then

634
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 1: you just your inhibitions, your inhibitions stopped you. And you're

635
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Speaker 1: like I know that, no, no, no. But then a

636
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Speaker 1: few days later you're like, why didn't I just do that?

637
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: Here's how I look? Who cares how I sound? Just

638
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: do it? And you do that, like I feel like

639
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: every time I've been in a situation where you've had

640
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: that opportunity, you just take it. Well, thank you, thank you, Mike.

641
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean it means a lot to hear uh that

642
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: That night, specifically at the house of is like that

643
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: was when we were driving Allison and I were driving

644
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: home my wife Allison, and we were like, I was

645
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: just like, I I am so happy with how I

646
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: handled that, Like, because there are there's a lot of

647
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: times on it on a daily basis where I go, oh,

648
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that, or I should I should

649
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: done something differently, But that was when I was like, wow,

650
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: I really I could have screwed that up, and I

651
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: think I did it pretty well. You I mean, man,

652
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: you didn't do it pretty well. You owned it, and

653
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: it just made me so happy because again, like to

654
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Mike's point, there's so many times where you could have

655
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: even been on the drive home be like, oh, I

656
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: could have been funnier. I really could have done it

657
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: and I could have like really, I mean, but you

658
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: did it like you were you and you freaking like

659
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: saying it like saying your heart out, which, by the way, Easton,

660
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know you also had um a song, I uh,

661
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: musical background on a second? Right now? Are you ready

662
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: for this? Oh my god shine? This is East Now

663
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: and sound and Theory. You can get it on Spotify.

664
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 1: Will say, I have an EP on Spotify hack Spotify.

665
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: This is this is not chos. There's a music video

666
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: for this long what is it? Yeah, this is a

667
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: pretty long intro with the DJ to talk that one up.

668
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: But I will say I will say that was my

669
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Speaker 1: one time. Everyone all of your fans and are so nice.

670
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: And I got so many cool messages from people. Everybody

671
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: was really nice. The closest thing I got to like

672
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: someone like trolling me. Someone d n me and said, um,

673
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: what you lack in singing ability? You make up for

674
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: a new dance moves And I'm like, sweet, do you

675
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Speaker 1: take a listen? And I just send it the link

676
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: to the Spotify the Spotify album. It's just like I

677
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: stand corrected and it's it's a it's called low self esteem.

678
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: So where did But here's the thing. You have a

679
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: song called throat Tattoo. I love how this interview is

680
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: like now turned to like re interview easton the Best.

681
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: I I don't I don't agree, do you do you

682
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 1: think you have a low self esteem. Um. The reason

683
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: I called it that I wrote all those songs like

684
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: in and Um, I I thought that it because I

685
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: play every instrument. I wrote all the songs and I

686
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: sing every like the whole thing is just me. It's

687
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: just just me. And so I thought that it was

688
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: very much like a look at me, look at me.

689
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: I clearly have self esteem problems. I can pay attention

690
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: to me. Look at all the stuff that I did,

691
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like so it was it

692
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: was called like Eastern has low self esteem, was like

693
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: the idea behind it. But um, I don't know. I

694
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: think I've had a lot of issues with that back then,

695
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: but I think I've fixed them now. I think I'm

696
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: a pretty cold person at this point. You got to

697
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: be a confident person to do what you did. Yeah,

698
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: and I and I love that about you. So wrapping

699
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: that up, I was gonna say, I just I really

700
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you being there for me that day because I

701
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: will tell you you were the only friend that actually

702
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: showed up to Oh my god, I mean now all

703
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: my fans and my friends, but you know what I mean,

704
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: like my people that I actually know. You were the

705
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: only one that showed up. Well, the other people said

706
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: they were going to come and they didn't come, So

707
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well, Jan, if you come anywhere on

708
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: the West Coast, I will go to that show. I'm

709
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan, and uh, I'm I'm very very

710
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: grateful to to call you my friend. What are we

711
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: gonna say, Michael, um, I was gonna say, moving on

712
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: to a more important topic, why you were kind of

713
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: fringing this morning? Eastern? How many times have you watched

714
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: Endgames since it's been out? I we we bought it

715
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: on iTunes and I turned it onto like the Middle

716
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: just to what I wanted to rewatch one scene and Alison,

717
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: I just watched the whole thing, that's the way through.

718
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: I've seen it like three times since it's been on

719
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: home video. Absolutely, can we watch it together one time?

720
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to watch it so I can fall asleep

721
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: to it. If I have to know what's going on,

722
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it all matters. So I couldn't watch it,

723
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: But Eastern I watched it. It came out, and I

724
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: watched it over the series of like this past weekend,

725
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: like on my flight back east to Baltimore, because I

726
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: was going there for a golf tournament nightly for a

727
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: few minutes till I fell asleep, and then finished it

728
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: on the plane coming back yesterday or Sunday. Yes Sunday,

729
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: and I'm on the plane. I had the last hour

730
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: to watch, which is like the best. That last hour

731
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: is amazing and the same part still got me. I

732
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: was getting TV eyed on the plane, a pack Southwest

733
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: flight on the aisle watching the end of Endgame with

734
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: tears in my eyes. I've seen that movie like nine

735
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: or ten times at this point, I still get goose

736
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: bumps and cheer up and everything. It's Avengers Assembled, just

737
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,520
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738
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: watched it multiple times since it came out, But we

739
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Speaker 1: say something though, since you know this is a relational podcast,

763
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: you were kind of in a mood this morning on

764
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: the way here. On the way here, yeah, you just

765
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: seemed really agitated at me for some reason. I was

766
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: just curious if you want to talk about it on air.

767
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. I just felt like

768
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: you you were hungry, so we were having a conversation.

769
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Speaker 1: Then then you're like, I'm gonna go eat because I

770
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Speaker 1: know you get hungry. Then you eat, but then I

771
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: don't feel like you recovered from your angry nous and

772
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Speaker 1: then you just kind of felt So I was just

773
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Speaker 1: still processing and realizing that feelings that I had we're

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00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: just um, I don't know the word. They were just

775
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: feelings that are having from something that I said before

776
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: we left the room. I just kind of let it marinate.

777
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: It's like, do I need to say something back to this?

778
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I don't. I don't. I don't

779
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: need to create more of an issue on something that

780
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: we've already talked about. So it's actually it's me growing

781
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: up would actually what it is? Are you sure? Because

782
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: I actually be like, hand here any emotions because I

783
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: want you to be able to know I am sure.

784
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: And it was just me. I think on the car

785
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: right here, you know we're both doing You're doing some

786
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: stuff on your phone and I just I'll still pros

787
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: It's like, do I wanted to talk about what I

788
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: was letting you be quiet? I was. I was trying

789
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: to be quiet because I could I could sense it,

790
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to bring it up. I was

791
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: just like, all right, if he's gonna talk to me,

792
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be what's wrong, babe, because

793
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: you always get mad at me about that. So I

794
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: was like, all right, if he's gonna if there's something

795
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: he wants to talk about, he's going to bring it

796
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: to me, and I'm just gonna kind of do my

797
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: thing right now. Yeah, and again after and as I

798
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: continue to process in the car ride to the studio,

799
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: I just realize even further. I was like, I don't

800
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't need to to say anything on this. I don't.

801
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: I just need to show up and get things, you know,

802
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: do what we talked about. And you're not holding any resentment. No,

803
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm honestly not. I'm just to let it

804
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: go and I'm just like bringing this certain thing back

805
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: up on something that we're working on. I was like,

806
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: I just it's not gonna go anywhere. It's not going

807
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: to solve anything else, So why don't I just let

808
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: it go? Not push it down, but let it go

809
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: and move on and I feel better because of it.

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00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I'm trying to be an adult after I

811
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: talk about Avengers. So okay, Well, if it comes back

812
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: up then and it's still in new then I would

813
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: like to hear you out. I appreciate that. I appreciate,

814
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: appreciate appreciating that. Appreciate your appreciation, appreciating an emails we

815
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: do we do um. This one's from Danielle, not our

816
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: producer Danielle, A different Danielle. How do you balance home, family,

817
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: life and friends. I feel like since I've had my baby,

818
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: I find it really hard to hang out with my

819
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: previous friends. I crave a friendship outside the one my

820
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: husband and I have, but it's hard finding good common

821
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: ground with others. I wish I had more mom friends.

822
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: Any tips. It's so hard two juggle all of those

823
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Speaker 1: things because you want to be a good mom, you

824
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: want to be a good wife. You also want to

825
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: be a good friend, and unfortunately the friend one always

826
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Speaker 1: seems to fall a little bit more by the wayside

827
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Speaker 1: depending on your personality, I guess, but as it as

828
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: it should. For sure, the hierarchy should be your spouse

829
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: and kids, and then your friends. Yeah, no, for sure,

830
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: but it's also like you like, just like you you

831
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Speaker 1: need your time to go to have it. You have

832
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Speaker 1: to have it. So again it's for the wife, you know.

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00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: It's like we don't we need it too, and it's

834
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Speaker 1: hard for us to do that when we feel like

835
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Speaker 1: we're juggling. We have so much responsibility right that you

836
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: guys put on yourselves. And even again, we talked about

837
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: how many times we talked about here I have to

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00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: physically like push you out of the house to do something.

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00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: It's a little easier here in Nashville because of your

840
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: core group here, but still it's you know, I've met

841
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: a few mom friends at parks. Parks are a really

842
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: good place. There's also this new app. This is not

843
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: an AD, but there's also an app called Peanut. It's

844
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: basically like a Tinder for moms um like in your area.

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00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's pretty cool. You can meet like moms

846
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: and what you're into and stuff. So that's another way

847
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: to meet some mama's. But I would say, you know,

848
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: or even just even just calling you for like sometimes

849
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: like I'll do my girlfriend Christen and I like we'll

850
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: have Skype dates where we just have a glass of

851
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: wine and because we can't leave because we don't have

852
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: a sitter or you know, and we just skype and

853
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: drink wine that way. And you know, if her friends

854
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: are just not in that place of life yet still

855
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: talk tell her friends that be like, hey, guys, I

856
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: really miss you and I would love to hang out.

857
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: I can't leave if he gets the baby's gonna be sleeping.

858
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: You know, we can't get ssider. My husband's here. That

859
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: can y'all come over or one friend you you just

860
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: want to come over and have some wine or watch

861
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: it just wherever it is, have them come to you.

862
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: A friend will do that, you know what I mean.

863
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: You just have some grace with yourself. It's a new

864
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a new time of your life,

865
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: and you have to You'll get real, You'll you'll get

866
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: adjusted to it. It's just new. Yeah. And when you

867
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: first have if it's like a true baby, like when

868
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: you first have them, if it's your first and they're

869
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: really young, it seems like there's no light the end

870
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: the tunnel to ever do something for yourself totally. And

871
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: I thought I thought when we had Jason, those first

872
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: three months, I was like I guess I'm never going

873
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: to step outside this house and I'm never going to

874
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: be able to wash my hair and curl it and

875
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: put them make up. And now it's like, okay, he's

876
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: curling around. Yeah, And I thought, I was like, I'm

877
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: never gonna pay golf game. I'm never gonna see anybody

878
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: in this past weekend. I was golfing all weekend. Look

879
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: at you, now, look at us? Now? Anything else? System? Yeah?

880
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: That we got one from anonymous. Those are always good.

881
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: I've been living with my boyfriend for about a year.

882
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: I have a two and a half year old son. Lately,

883
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: the topic of money has become a very source subject.

884
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: We work for the same company. He makes three times

885
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: as much as I do. I recently have found a

886
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: passion of mine that I want to follow as a career,

887
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: but in order to do so, I would need to

888
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: cut back to part time. That idea was shut down immediately.

889
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: I said that I would move in with my parents

890
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: to save money, and he said, do it, but I

891
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: know that our relationship would not last. How would you

892
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: handle this situation. I think that's not fair that he's

893
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: saying you can't do something if it's something you want

894
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: to do, right. Yeah, I get, you know, from a

895
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: practical mindset, you know, I get the financial part of it,

896
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: like maybe why he would have maybe some concerns, express

897
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: those as concerns, but ultimately he should be supportive. I mean,

898
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: she does have a son, though, so she has to

899
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: be mindful of how she's supporting her son. So yeah,

900
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: so if it's just him supporting, that's that's tricky because

901
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: you know it's your Yeah, if you guys are just dating,

902
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: that's a different scenario. If you guys were married or

903
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: even engaged, I think that would be yeah, yeah, for sure.

904
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: If if they were a little bit more serious in

905
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: their status of their relationship, then yeah, it would be

906
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: probably easier for him to to justify you know, all right,

907
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: absolutely I support that. I'll support you and your son.

908
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: He make three times as much at the same company,

909
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: should be able to do that. But because I mean,

910
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: what if I was like I I want to quit

911
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: all this or not quit all this, but I want

912
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: to start part time, Like I want to start a

913
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: wedding because I love wedding planning. I want to do

914
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: a wedding planning thing, and but I know that's not

915
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: realistic because I have to support the family, you know,

916
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: and work and do these other things. And you would

917
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: be like, whoa, it would be hard nor situation because

918
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: we work together, all right. But I'm just saying that

919
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: if we were you know, I don't know, right, but still,

920
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: if if when I was doing medical sales and you

921
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: said that I just want to quit entertainment altogether and

922
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: I want to focus on start my own event playing business,

923
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: I'll be for it. We'd make it work, you know

924
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: what I mean er weddings. This sounds a lot like,

925
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Jim, Pam and Roy triangle in the office.

926
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: Oh God, Eastern did you watch the office? You know,

927
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: the office as a whole. In my in my entertainment background,

928
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: I've never seen no one. I got no one on

929
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: here to understand the reference, describe it to it than honey.

930
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Pam was engaged to Roy. She wanted to go into

931
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: graphic design and do more art stuff and maybe a

932
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: job as a secretary. Roy was like, what are we

933
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna do for money? Even though he worked there too

934
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: in the warehouse. And Jim, who's your friend? But they

935
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: really loved each other. They haven't confessed it yet. Jim

936
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: was like, do it is what you want to do

937
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: it and everyone watching it's just like, yes, Jim, Pam,

938
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: that's why you should be with Jim. You're reading us

939
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: a bedtime story about the office. It was very soothing.

940
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: I hope there's a listeners that about email was the chair? Oh?

941
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, because the other day when we were

942
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: in bed and we were about to get a little

943
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: closer cuddling, he's like you want to come over? He's

944
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: like baby coming in. He's like, come on my chest

945
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: and I was like OK. And then I lean over,

946
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: I lift the sheets up and I was like holy

947
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: he dutch ovened me and was just like good night,

948
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: turned around and went to bed. I mean, that's the

949
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: best way, not the intimate. Good job on you. But

950
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be well. That was like disgusting. It

951
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: was like you had three eggs that were like what

952
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: happened when you were in the bathroom still I thought

953
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: it was gonna be gone, but I didn't let the

954
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: cover to let it air out, and you walked into

955
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: a death trap. Disgusting. I don't understand what do you

956
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: want from me? What do you want from here? This

957
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: is an appropriate email? Actually? Um, how do you keep

958
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: the romancer intimacy alive when you have a gassy partner

959
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: when you're trying to conceive. We've been trying for six

960
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: months now, and my husband will complain that it feels scheduled, planned,

961
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: and it's taking all the fun out of it. Do you, Mike,

962
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: have any advice or suggestions for keeping it fun and

963
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: intimate when actively trying to conceive. All right, I'm gonna

964
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: get real aggressive on this. This is interesting. I'm gonna

965
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: get Can I go first? Please? But yeah, okay, um,

966
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: and I know where Michael stance is because the guys

967
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: are like, you know, I just feel like I'm just

968
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: a machine. I have to look, it is hard for

969
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: women to get pregnant. We have about two days out

970
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: of the month. Stop. No, we have two days out

971
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: of the months to get pregnant. Okay, And if we

972
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: don't have sex on that to day they give us,

973
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: they say a week, but you know, because the sperm

974
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: can live and grow and fly up there. But really, truly,

975
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: there's two days that I've been told and if we

976
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: do not have sex on that day, and you guys

977
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: do not ejaculate inside of us, then then we are

978
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: screwed and have to wait a full other freaking month.

979
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, when you're trying to get pregnant,

980
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: there's so much fighting pressure. Sorry Eastern on us no,

981
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: because it's like there's so much pressure when you're actually

982
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: really physically trying. So then it gets frustrating when the

983
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: guys like I just feel like whatever, like, well, you

984
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: know what, we have to wait a full other month.

985
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: We have it's like, we want to have kids. We

986
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: don't want to have to keep waiting because we know

987
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: that we only have a two day thing. So you

988
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: know what, with everything that we have to deal with,

989
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm really getting angry right now with everything that we

990
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: have to deal with. It's like I'm sorry that you

991
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: guys feel that way, that you feel like it's boring

992
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: or that know that it's just like I just feel

993
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: like I have to do this and it feels so

994
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, scheduled and what yeah, you know what, it

995
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: does okay, And every other time I'll let you turn

996
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: me over and do whatever you want to do and

997
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: have fun. But for those two days a month, can

998
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: sorry Eastern, you know, knock on our door and say hey, baby,

999
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: let's do let's make a baby, and let's be let's

1000
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: be excited and let's have that energy because you know what,

1001
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: it sucks for us to have to get to have

1002
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: to deal with this pregnancy. Okay, to try to freaking

1003
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: get pregnant. I love this how many women are listening

1004
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: to right now, like preach, like just pulling over the

1005
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: side of the road like yes, girl no, because you

1006
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: do not understand. It is so hard, it's so frustrating.

1007
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: And we have these little maybe baby apps and it's like, Okay,

1008
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: this is the week, this is the week, like we

1009
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: have to do it and it really has to be

1010
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: and it's like I mean Michael and I sorry Easton,

1011
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: Michael and I. We even got into a fight about

1012
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: this the night Jason was conceived because I was like, honey,

1013
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait another month to like please,

1014
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: I know, like can you just come inside of me?

1015
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: Because he's like I'm tired. Well, aren't you so glad

1016
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: that you did? Because that baby is get our marriage together.

1017
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Man, you would like to say anything, terrified

1018
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: to say anything, but this is perfect timing. I'll tell

1019
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: you why. But first, you know, we're men, We're not

1020
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: pieces of meat. Do you know I was going to

1021
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: when you flip us over, you have we have feelings

1022
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: to two days out of the maybe light some candles,

1023
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: take us out somewhere, make us feel pretty. Okay, she

1024
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: when I light switches unbelievable. But it's funny because just

1025
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: just this past weekend, when I was with my buddies

1026
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: in Baltimore a golf tournament. I'll leave names out of

1027
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: it for nanimity, but one of my buddies, one of

1028
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: my buddies, his wife is opulating, and so we had

1029
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: to wake up early to tee off every morning. And

1030
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: she wakes him up like and as long as going

1031
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: off at six, She's like, hey, wake up, I'm ompulating.

1032
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: And he he rolls over, looks at the phone, sees

1033
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: your alarm. He's like, honey, that's a tall ask. Right now.

1034
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: He's like, I got a full day of golf. She's like,

1035
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: your golf she said that to him. Yeah, sorry, still

1036
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: you can bleep that out, but it's good good to keep. Yeah,

1037
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: She's like, after your golf, He's like, honey. The fact

1038
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: that he turns out, he's like, that's a tall ask.

1039
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, but seriously, so ultimately, when we were done

1040
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: for the day before dinner, he went home, shower, took

1041
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: care of business, and it came back. Okay, good, good job.

1042
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: He was good after you know, he was tired and

1043
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: after golfing all day and on his feet in the

1044
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: hot sun drinking some beers, he went home did what

1045
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: he had to do. That would be a hard order,

1046
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: two drinking beers. But it was funny because we were

1047
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: talking about that, and a bunch of us that our

1048
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: dads have all been through that and have kids, and

1049
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, obviously we don't know what it's

1050
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: like to be on that schedule, and we tried to,

1051
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: but it's had the pressure of you know, our of

1052
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: tracking all that stuff and then knowing that we only

1053
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: have that much time and then we have to wait

1054
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: another month to maybe try to conceive again for that

1055
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: really short window. I think it's it's just funny because

1056
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: historically speaking, right men are the one who initiates sex,

1057
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: and so when we're faced with the opposite and we

1058
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: feel pressure, it's like all of a sudden, we're like,

1059
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm not available. It's so messed up. It's just it's interesting.

1060
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: It's I would love to know the psychology, like a

1061
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: psychological study around it, because it is really interesting. It

1062
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: is interesting, but it's so frustrating though, and I feel

1063
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: I feel your pain. But here's for the make your

1064
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: husband listen to this. You just put on the husbands

1065
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: out there, please, just it's so hard on us and

1066
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: it would just be really nice if you guys just

1067
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: showed up and didn't freaking complain about it, because we

1068
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: have to go through so much. Yeah, and if like

1069
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: so for Ashley who wrote the email, if she was

1070
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: able to tell her husband ahead of time, yeah, hey,

1071
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: next month, these are the days. I'm obviously just like

1072
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: you tell me, okay, these are days, because it would

1073
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: help you feel less pressure. If I was the one

1074
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: who came to you, Hey, I know we have to

1075
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: have sex these days. No, I mean but I wanted,

1076
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: but I wanted you to be aware that I was

1077
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: going to be wanting for right. But it's great because

1078
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: then it's not like a surprise. Yeah, you know, like

1079
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: jump out and scare us. So yeah, bring again, scare us.

1080
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: It's like you guys want to have sex. I'm um,

1081
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: but no, I think that that helps and it helps

1082
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: you guys not feel so lone in the process, like

1083
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: when you showed me your calendar and brought me in

1084
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: on it and told me what days it helped me

1085
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable. So I would do the same thing

1086
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: if I was actually well, I just can't really eat it.

1087
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: Good night luck. I'm just pro pro stay on the

1088
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: same page with ovulation it because that stuff so annoying.

1089
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: It's just another month. It's like, I'm not going to

1090
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: let this stupid argument wait another month, and good good

1091
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: for you. But I had a friend who told me

1092
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: that they were trying to conceive and her husband came

1093
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: home from work and she's like, hey, I'm oveling this,

1094
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: this has to happen, and he's like, I'm too tired.

1095
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: I can't do it. So she had him take care

1096
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: of himself and then they had in a cup and

1097
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: they turkey based in yeah, and she just stood on

1098
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: she like did a headstand, and I'm like, I don't

1099
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: know if that works or not, but that's what they did.

1100
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 1: And I thought that visual is really funny. But yeah,

1101
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: that's that's one way to uh take I think all

1102
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: the intimacy out of it, but I get the job done.

1103
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: Almost offended. I know, right, I thought that was a

1104
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: weird way to do it. But but they're pregnant now

1105
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: hooray y Well, well, on that note, UM, I love

1106
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: you guys, and um we'll be on location next time.

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Speaker 1: We talk to you from Louisiana