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Speaker 2: Yes back with a lot of my good friends and

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Speaker 2: With the with Shanonarry and that crew, it's been a

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Speaker 1: All Right, so I need to say his name, but

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Speaker 1: you already know who it is. It's Brent Hubbs, and

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Speaker 1: we are so excited to have him with us in Knoxville.

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Speaker 1: He only had thirty six straight Mondays of all calls,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it is the OTP. You also mentioned

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Speaker 2: fan of Fieldhouse Social it is this is one of

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Speaker 1: Well, Brent is going to join us for Night two

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Speaker 1: of the Draft rat We are looking forward to having

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Speaker 1: Coach Mack and getting a chance to be on our

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you how excited I am that Brent

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Speaker 4: Hubbs is going to be a part of this because

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Speaker 1: But there's gonna be some volunteers too, Hey, cool tip,

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Speaker 1: all right, seriously, it's gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. Ret s pulls down and he's

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Speaker 2: got this three ring binder notebook here. I've got a

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this the story.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you the background. Amy Wells is gonna

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Speaker 1: be in Kansas City with Ashley Ferrell. They will be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they've done film, study, wrote notes, went

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm fully aware. And again I'm not sure why

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Speaker 2: The creation the web with recruiting has created the ability

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Speaker 2: Five official visits. Who's your favorite on a Sunday night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I think I think everybody's story, regardless

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Speaker 4: But Derek Hall of Auburn might not even supposed to

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Speaker 1: A great career at Auburn. He's gonna be an NFL.

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Speaker 2: I love the story of Keon White from Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Well that's because he's a total freak, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, the story, the journey to getting their

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope that that, and selfishly it's because I

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's the story with him? And so he's

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Speaker 2: Darnell really took off. And I think Darnell has now

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Speaker 4: Ret let's pivot to another guy who is another big

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Speaker 2: Smart, the intelligence factor, the processing factor, the ability to

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Speaker 2: Every Sunday night, I watched the NFL on NBC and

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Speaker 2: So he got here. Tennessee's quarterbacks coach Joey Hawseley told him,

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Speaker 2: Turn it loose. And once he got to the point

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Speaker 2: You see what happens, and you know I'm fascinated to

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Speaker 2: I just it's fun to watch him grow, because again,

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Speaker 1: Because it happens, it was Jeremy Prewitt who got Hendon

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Speaker 2: Staff, Absolutely it was. It was Jim Cheney, And it

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Speaker 1: Is this real?

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Speaker 2: You know? He started making phone calls is this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So from the surprise of Hendon Hooker and what he's

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Speaker 2: Does that surprise you, Yes it does, because Hyatt put

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Speaker 2: who is the head coach at USC. Tyson gets to

436
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Speaker 2: looking at this roster AND's like, you get, what where

437
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 2: are the people at We got to find some people.

438
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Speaker 2: Calls his brother and say, hey, there's no transfer portal

439
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Speaker 2: at this point. Hey, do you know anybody hanging around

440
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: out there or whatever. He's like, well, we got this

441
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: kid that we're going to think about maybe walking on.

442
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: He doesn't run will well, but he plays at a

443
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Speaker 2: really famed high school and Las Vegas, and you know

444
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Speaker 2: he's put up some numbers side. You know, it's a

445
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Speaker 2: guy we're interested in. Tennessee calls him, visits with him,

446
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Speaker 2: offers him a scholarship. He commits without ever seeing Tennessee.

447
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: He comes from Las Vegas. I mean, he was a

448
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Speaker 2: body like, look, here's the paper sign. Well, we're gonna

449
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Speaker 2: get married. I mean it's literally like it's it's it's

450
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Speaker 2: going and getting the mail order bride is what we're

451
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Speaker 2: doing there.

452
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Speaker 3: House.

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's well.

454
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Speaker 3: If you want to go that way, but it is.

455
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Speaker 2: It is the O T. P. Let's have a little fun.

456
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Speaker 2: And so he gets to Tennessee and he doesn't do anything.

457
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Speaker 2: I mean, he just he doesn't make a lot of plays,

458
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Speaker 2: he doesn't run, He just he just doesn't look like

459
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Speaker 2: it's gonna fit very well. You're like, okay, this guy

460
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Speaker 2: anytime he went on the field, like you're in the

461
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Speaker 2: press box. You got your moknockers on. I'm spotting Cedric's

462
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Speaker 2: on the field. Let's find the running back. Because it's

463
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Speaker 2: a run play. They're gonna run it. He's a good block.

464
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Speaker 2: They'renna run it. They're gonna run it because they're not

465
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Speaker 2: gonna throw it to Tilman. That's just that's just the

466
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Speaker 2: way it was. So he goes through springball with with

467
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Speaker 2: Josh Heipel Orange and White game. This would have been

468
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: two years ago. He catches a touchdown passing the end

469
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Speaker 2: zone on a really nice catch, a little diving catch,

470
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Speaker 2: slide and catch, and it was like light bulbs for

471
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: everybody went off. He went crazy to work. They went, okay,

472
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Speaker 2: he can probably help us some. They go into his

473
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Speaker 2: first year. He doesn't get the ball very much. The

474
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Speaker 2: first couple of games Florida. They lose the game and

475
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Speaker 2: he goes to the coaching staff afterwards and he doesn't go,

476
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Speaker 2: Keshon Johnson, It's not give me the damn ball. It's

477
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Speaker 2: not one of those moments. But he goes to the

478
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Speaker 2: coaches and said, I want to be a bigger part

479
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Speaker 2: of the offense. I think I can help us. I

480
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Speaker 2: want to be a big What do I need to do?

481
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Speaker 2: What do we need to do to be for me

482
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Speaker 2: to be a bigger part of the offense? Veayles Jones

483
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Speaker 2: slides into the slot all of a sudden, now tilman's

484
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Speaker 2: the outside guy, and all of a sudden, numbers start

485
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Speaker 2: popping out like crazy. And that's where we are with

486
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Speaker 2: him as a player. Mike pointed this out to me

487
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Speaker 2: at the Pro Day. I don't know if you got

488
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Speaker 2: the numbers in front of you. On his forty time,

489
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Speaker 2: it's the first ten yards. He runs really well in

490
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Speaker 2: his first ten yards the forty times. He's not a

491
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Speaker 2: long strider, gonna take the top off at the end

492
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Speaker 2: four five three, right, But the first ten.

493
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Speaker 1: First ten's like one nine, which is outstanding.

494
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Speaker 2: That's in the ballpark with some really with some more

495
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Speaker 2: high end guys.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm a guy at almost sixty three and two

497
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Speaker 1: nineteen pounds six three two thirteen and so you're not

498
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to muscle him, and he's gonna be

499
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Speaker 1: able to get off that line of scrimmage quickly as well.

500
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Speaker 1: Runs good routes.

501
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, and he has a really I think rhet

502
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Speaker 2: he has a really nice catch radius. He is not

503
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Speaker 2: a guy that the ball has to be right on

504
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Speaker 2: the hip or right in the place he can go.

505
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Speaker 2: Maybe not the most athletic like Gonna Randy Mosshoe type deal,

506
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Speaker 2: but but but he can high point the ball well.

507
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Speaker 2: He he knows how to box out with his body

508
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Speaker 2: pretty well. He's got a pretty big catch radius on

509
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Speaker 2: him that I think some teams are gonna like.

510
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Speaker 4: Well and Brent, he is in the perfect window right now.

511
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Speaker 4: In this year's wide receiver draft, it's littered with guys

512
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Speaker 4: that are six feet and under one hundred and seventy

513
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty pounds, and there's a handful of big receivers.

514
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Speaker 4: Most of them aren't as proven as he is. There's

515
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Speaker 4: At Perry from Wake Forest, and there's Quinton Johnston from TCU.

516
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Speaker 4: But he's got film against the best of the world

517
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Speaker 4: has to offer in the SEC every week.

518
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Speaker 2: Well you go, look, he put up almost two hundred

519
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Speaker 2: yards against Keigley Ringo at Georgia two years ago.

520
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Speaker 1: There it is.

521
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Speaker 2: I mean, he put up Keith Ringo's name is gonna

522
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Speaker 2: get called it. Yeah early, Yeah, I mean he's done

523
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Speaker 2: it against I was watching some stuff on him and

524
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Speaker 2: I went back and watched the Alabama game the first

525
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Speaker 2: his year when he was healthy. He didn't play any

526
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Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, yeah, twenty one. A couple of really

527
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Speaker 2: I mean, he called slant across the middle, got popped

528
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Speaker 2: a couple of times. He was the guy people they

529
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Speaker 2: knew the ball was going to him because it was

530
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: kind of where Tennessee was at that point. There was

531
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Speaker 2: a play here and there, but it was kind of

532
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Speaker 2: let's get it to him. That was the comfort level,

533
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Speaker 2: and he found a way to muscle people. He made

534
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: a couple of really nice kind of circuit catches, you know,

535
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: found the ball in the air really well. I think

536
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Speaker 2: he's going to be a nice pickup for somebody. How

537
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Speaker 2: high he goes, Probably higher than I initially thought, because

538
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Speaker 2: I think he's run the football better. I like where

539
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Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman's at, and I think you're right, Brett, there's

540
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: not a lot of Heilm. Some years you got five

541
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Speaker 2: of those guys. There's not a lot of those types

542
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Speaker 2: of guys this year in the draft at that position.

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Speaker 1: fan Rett Bryant. As you have graded players in twenty

556
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Speaker 1: twenty three, who is your highest rated player regardless of position.

557
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Speaker 4: I'm afraid to say it because of where we are,

558
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Speaker 4: but it's Bryce Young of Alabama.

559
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Speaker 1: Well, no, I think that's imedgable. It's you know, he

560
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: didn't win here last year, so there's good.

561
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Speaker 2: But he's the only reason everybody was sweating at the

562
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Speaker 2: end of the game.

563
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. They're seven and five.

564
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Speaker 2: Without question, no question.

565
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Speaker 1: I mean they they played a tough schedule, as they

566
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Speaker 1: always do, they weren't quite as dominant in spots, and

567
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Speaker 1: if not for a missed field goal here and a two,

568
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: if the two point conversion had gone the other way,

569
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Speaker 1: they would have been playing for the SEC championship and

570
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Speaker 1: been right in the middle of it. So you could

571
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Speaker 1: tease all you want about they went ten and two,

572
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Speaker 1: which most people would take every day of the week.

573
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Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is he is so special. No, no, dubt,

574
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Speaker 1: I think he goes way. Listen.

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Speaker 4: I go back to the Week one of twenty twenty

576
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Speaker 4: two to see him against them Texas.

577
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Speaker 2: Long Horns last drive. I mean, he willed them to

578
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Speaker 2: the wine hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and they don't knock Quinn Yours out of

580
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Speaker 1: that game. That's probably a different story right there.

581
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Speaker 2: But they had to have it, and it was every

582
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: third down play he made everything did. Here's my thing

583
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Speaker 2: in my question to you with him. How much does

584
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Speaker 2: the size knock him? How much if you're a GM,

585
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: if you're and you're talking about, Hey, this is my

586
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: ten year franchise quarterback. Is he big enough to take

587
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: what this league gives you each and every Sunday.

588
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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's certainly a consideration, because up until

589
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Speaker 4: this week, really He's been mentioned near the top, but

590
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: the fact that he calls off his pro day tells

591
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Speaker 4: me Caroline's going to take him number one overall. Uh

592
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: but let me say this, and you said it earlier

593
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 4: with him. This guy extends plays with his body, and

594
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 4: not in the typical, not in the Anthony Richardson way,

595
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 4: not in the way we've seen Cam Newton and all

596
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Speaker 4: the others.

597
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: Not Lord Jackson.

598
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Speaker 4: No, No, he's not run first. He's he's extended to play.

599
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: Watch it develop. Find a guy, get.

600
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Speaker 2: Him little, my homeless, little home, like in that way.

601
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying schedule play, but I mean whenever he's running,

602
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: it's I'm good. I'm running to advanced.

603
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: Off schedule places. He's not gonna run an eighty yard

604
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: touchdown necessarily. Could he could, Yeah, but he doesn't have to.

605
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Speaker 1: That's right. I like.

606
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Speaker 3: I like that he can do other things, so just

607
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: being well, I mean some other stuff.

608
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Speaker 1: I like that he's not going to Houston.

609
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Speaker 3: Get him out of here.

610
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, if he stays healthy, he will be

611
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Speaker 2: if and I've seen him take a bunch of hits

612
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: and he gets back up, he seems off if he

613
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: can handle the con just the beating that you take

614
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Speaker 2: because I don't think Carolina's offensive front's real good, right,

615
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Speaker 2: I mean, if he can handle all of those things,

616
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Speaker 2: I think he's got a chance to be a Really

617
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Speaker 2: he's got all the intangles of the quarterback. I'm not

618
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Speaker 2: sure some of the other quarterbacks in the first round

619
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Speaker 2: have those intentionents.

620
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Speaker 4: And he's got a guy like Frank Reich to get

621
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Speaker 4: him point in the next phase of this.

622
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Speaker 1: The whole offensive staff, right, Jim Caldwell's there, and I

623
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Speaker 1: mean there are some coaches on that staff.

624
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Speaker 3: Man, all right, Right, I want to know who is

625
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Speaker 3: your favorite player in this draft, regardless of ranking.

626
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Speaker 4: Well, this guy's ranked really high, and I think he's

627
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Speaker 4: gonna make somebody a really big difference maker for the

628
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Speaker 4: next eight ten years. And that's Bjon Robinson, the running

629
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Speaker 4: back from Texas. He's a three down back. The guy

630
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Speaker 4: has the way that he can sink his body, shift

631
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Speaker 4: his weight, not lose any momentum laterally, and make tacklers

632
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Speaker 4: missed him two hundred and fourteen forced missed tackles in

633
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Speaker 4: three years, one hundred and four of them last year,

634
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: twenty three hundred yards after contact, seventy seven catches, only

635
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: four drops out of the backfield. He's he is the

636
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: prototypical right now NFL three down back.

637
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you know, and you better be that

638
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Speaker 2: if you're going to draft a running back.

639
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent.

640
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Speaker 2: Was he thought to be like that coming out of

641
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Speaker 2: high school. The versatility part was not there in terms

642
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Speaker 2: of him being a pass catcher and doing the things

643
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Speaker 2: that he could do. I think more people viewed him as, yes,

644
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Speaker 2: a really good high school back, a really good college back,

645
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: but he was a kind of you know, between the tackles,

646
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Speaker 2: kind of hit it and kind of go. He had

647
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Speaker 2: good wiggle. Nobody question his speed was solid, but his

648
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: ability to do things in open space as is the

649
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Speaker 2: is the growth of his game from the high school

650
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Speaker 2: because he was got to hand it to him forty

651
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 2: times a game and let's let's go right. I mean,

652
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: who's going to tackle him in high school? Not a

653
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: lot of sophistication. Un let's check it down, throw it

654
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: to him and incorporate him in the passing game of

655
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: the way they have that part of it. I don't

656
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: think anybody saw initially coming out of high school. Brent.

657
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: Let's turn in a different direction. All the players that

658
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: you have watched play with your coverage of college football

659
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: and this year's draft, who is your favorite player?

660
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: Not t Rack, who's here the four Bowl mascot?

661
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: You know, I tell you, I tell you who won

662
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: my respect And we've talked about him a lot. Bradshaw

663
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: won my respect war than anybody did this year because

664
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: he took a beating in Knoxville. I mean he really did.

665
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: He won my respect a lot. I tell you a guy,

666
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: if he ever puts it together, who's second contract in

667
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. They're going to have to bake up. They're

668
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: gonna have to write a big check for him. Is

669
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: the clancy kid from Pittsburgh the defense?

670
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, sine d Lineman.

671
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: He's not my favorite player. Okay, I don't mean that,

672
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: but to watch him play the last two years, there

673
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: a couple of moments where you go, he's a home wrecker,

674
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: like like he's he's sending somebody to the d L,

675
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: like he's he's taken over a series. Then there's other

676
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: series where he just doesn't. You're like, is the guy

677
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: on the team if he ever puts it together, though,

678
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be really good.

679
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: Elijah Chancey is getting a lot of comparisons because of

680
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: the pit and the size on the d line of

681
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald. We know there's just one Aaron yea, we

682
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: know that right. But I talked to him with the

683
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: Combine and he said, hey, man, way do you see

684
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: me run this forty tomorrow? Why do you see me

685
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: run these drills?

686
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: He did it.

687
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna he gonna be a He's gonna be

688
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 4: a Thursday night pick next week.

689
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: He can do anything he wants to do.

690
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: The question is do you think he goes to the

691
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: first absolutely, he goes.

692
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 3: Yes, he does look strong.

693
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Right here right here?

694
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: That way can can some can somebody get it out

695
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: it of him consistently? I think is the is the challenge?

696
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Right if you do like I said, by the time

697
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: he gets to that second contract, they're gonna be writing

698
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: a check because he has all He has all of it,

699
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: the athletic ability to do a variety, to do a

700
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: bunch of different.

701
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: If he's got one fuel cell.

702
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: It's the comparisons or the thing hanging over him about

703
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, because he told me he was tired of it.

704
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: To combine, I'm sure he was fuel in the cars.

705
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: Here we go, you know, here's the other one. That

706
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: jumps out to me a little bit and I love

707
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: his game. Is where does Jamiir Gibbs fall in this draft?

708
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: What is Jamier.

709
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: Gibbs is he is he just a specialty third down

710
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: player and that's the only way you can really get

711
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: him on the field. Is he Alvin Kamara. That's what

712
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: is Jamiir Gibbs.

713
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: More of the latter than the former. He will draw

714
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: some comparisons to Alvin Kamara. And you're talking about a guy.

715
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 4: He's the next running back off the board behind Jon

716
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: Robinson that but not in night one, right, He'll be

717
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 4: Night two, probably second last.

718
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City decides to go there like they did, you

719
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: know a couple of years ago with a back or

720
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: that somebody aids to thirty one for that last pick

721
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: of the first round to grab.

722
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: All I could see. I could see you. I can

723
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: see Andy Reid falling in love with that toy. I mean,

724
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: you said, great thing on Jamior Gibbs. No sec offers

725
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: to play running back. He comes and camps at Tennessee.

726
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: The Tennessee offensive staff, who's no longer here, by the way,

727
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: was like, I don't think so. If we're gonna recruit him,

728
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: we got to recruit him as a dB because we

729
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: don't we don't think he's an offensive player. No, And

730
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: it wasn't just Tennessee everybody. I mean, the guy's from Georgia.

731
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: He's from just outside of Atlanta, north of Atlanta, real

732
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: high school football, and nobody thought like nobody thought offensive player.

733
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: And so he goes to Georgia Tech and it's like, Okay,

734
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: this guy's pretty good. He can do it. He can

735
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: return kicks, he can do all these things in a

736
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: bad offense. He can do this stuff. Goes into transfer

737
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: portal and every SEC coach is going, you know, hello,

738
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 2: remember me. And he wanted to go to Alabama because

739
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: he thought he had a chance to win a championship.

740
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: He was tired of losing. That's why he ended up

741
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: at Abama.

742
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Four three, six set the combine. Now he's five, so

743
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: that's not the you know, the biggest dude in the world.

744
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: But I mean to make somebody good prog.

745
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't wory about asking him to

746
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: pass protect very much. Just hey, your pass protection is

747
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: you're the checkdown guy for me. Right, we'll get it there.

748
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get in there and get big

749
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: and and all his arms are what two two and

750
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: a half inches shorter than the albums or something like that.

751
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: He didn't have the longest arms. But I'm telling you

752
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: he is in the way the league's played right now,

753
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: wide open. He is intriguing as can be. That one

754
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: intrigues me in this league. And when you talk about

755
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: defensive ends, it's the kid at LSU b j Olajard, Yes,

756
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: that one. I think he's gonna be a later get

757
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: than what he's gonna be undervalued by somebody. I think

758
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna go Friday Night, I believe. But he's gonna

759
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: be undervalued a little bit because I think his first

760
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: couple of years in the league he's gonna be a

761
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: third down pass rush specialist. That's gonna be his trick.

762
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: He's not gonna play all three downs. Get some weight

763
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: on him, get him in a program, get some stability there.

764
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a nice NFL football

765
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: player for at a position that I think so, yeah,

766
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: I do.

767
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I do. But at the same time, he is not

768
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: his brother as Ease.

769
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not different players.

770
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: That's that's another level up.

771
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, different player, But but bj is a straight, hardline

772
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: edge rush guy who's got who's got some moves. It

773
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: was interesting in talking to Darnell right about BJ. He said,

774
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: when you prepared for BJ, you had to pare for,

775
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: prepare for a little bit of everything. You knew he

776
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: was gonna speed rush you, so you had to overstep

777
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: for that set. But he has some inside twitch, arm

778
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: over some inside things. Where's the guy like Will Anderson

779
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: was just going to try to bull rush you most

780
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: of the time, play a little different physical brand. BJ

781
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: doesn't play that way, but I think he can grow

782
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: into that. I think his best days are ahead of

783
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: him in football. Remember played forred Or jarn Left went

784
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: through a real transition down there. That was tough. I

785
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: think think he's going to have a better NFL career

786
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 2: than he did college career long term.

787
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: Now, can we have a little fun, Not that we're

788
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: not already having No, we have, we're definitely having fun. Yeah,

789
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: we're really excited you're here.

790
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks?

791
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

792
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: No, I would like say it okay when you get

793
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: room reservations.

794
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: It's a similar, very similar move. No, I wanted to

795
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: ask you, is there anybody going through this process now

796
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: who's maybe evaluation that they're receiving. Some of the hype

797
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: that they're receiving doesn't really make sense to you.

798
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not in love with Will Levis. I'm

799
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: just I'm just gonna be on I'm just gonna be

800
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: on the record with that. And I mean I mean,

801
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean he might bring his mayonnaise coffee banana peel

802
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 2: eating self to the Music City. I don't know what's

803
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 2: gonna happen in the draft. I just have a hard

804
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: time I'm seeing that when translate, because I don't in

805
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: watching him play twice, I don't feel as an observer

806
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: the intangibles that we talked about with some of the

807
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks. You know, he was at Penn State. He

808
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: didn't win a job. He left, he went to Kentucky. Now,

809
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: I'll say this for him in fairness out of him.

810
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: He was throwing the two freshman receivers this past year.

811
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: He lost a bunch of stuff from the previous year,

812
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: and as coordinators he went through a whole lot of

813
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: changes that probably made life really tough one but even

814
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: the year before there was a there was enough kind

815
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: of oh's you know what I mean? Uh, he's pretty emotional.

816
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm always a little you know, at that position, some

817
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: of that stuff you got there football, Yeah, you just

818
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: gotta kind of keep it in check a little bit there.

819
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: I don't I think he's gonna be an NFL player.

820
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm just surprised that some people have him kind of

821
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: where he's at. I think a guy like Anthony Richardson,

822
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: who put on a show in Knoxville, has just never

823
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: been harnessed. He's never been really coached into.

824
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: You can see that one.

825
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: You can see the upside there to me more than

826
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: I can see the upside with Will Levis. That's just

827
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: my you're an eval get in your spiral bound notebook here,

828
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 2: because you're like, I don't know what Hubbs is talking.

829
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I would agree with what you're saying

830
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 4: about Will Levis and listen. That's why I understand the

831
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: hype with Anthony Richardson. No, I totally get that one

832
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: for me. And it goes back to the wide receiver talk.

833
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: Is Quinton Johnston from TCU. It's like what we talked

834
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 4: about with Cedric Tillman a little while ago. There aren't

835
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: a ton of big physical There is no Calvin Johnson

836
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 4: Megatron in this draft, and this guy nearly six three

837
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 4: two twelve eighty one and a half inch wingspann forty

838
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: and a half inch vertical leap over an eleven foot

839
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: broad jump, good short shuttle time, good three cone drill

840
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: for a.

841
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: Guy that big.

842
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: But the combat catches they're not always there. Eight drops

843
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: last yearquarter back through almost forty touchdowns, he only has

844
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: six of them. I don't understand it. And that's why

845
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: he may fall next week. We'll see what happens. And

846
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to disparage the young man, but I

847
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: just for all this stuff for a guy that rode

848
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: to the National championship game, I just don't see the

849
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: hype yet.

850
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: All right, what about what about Darnell Washington? What do

851
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: you what do you think of the tight end Georgia All.

852
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: He'd be immediately like drafting a sixth offensive lineman, right

853
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: if you're the Titans, that's what you're looking for in

854
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 4: a jumbo set, you know, higher or low red zone area.

855
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 4: I like Darnell Washington. He's a monster target for you

856
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: to be able to throw too in the red zone

857
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: as well if you're not having him out there in

858
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 4: a jumbo set. I mean, look at what the Indianapolis

859
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: Colts did last year with Jolanni Woods, the former quarterback

860
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: that you know was tight end. They used him and

861
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: they used him against the Titans and big you know,

862
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: red zone package stuff. Only this guy is an sec

863
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: version of that.

864
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to see how he translates. It almost

865
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: feels like he's too big sometimes.

866
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing.

867
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I'm curious to see how his game

868
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Speaker 2: translates to the league.

869
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: Who's the comp for Darnell Washington. Yes, And that's my problem.

870
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: My problem is there really hasn't been a guy who's

871
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: nearly six seven, who weighs close to two seventy who

872
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: has done it in the way we've seen some of

873
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: the tight ends do it. Now, he could be the first.

874
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: He's a remark. I mean, did you see the catch

875
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: he made it the combine where he basically threw his

876
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: hand behind his head and it was it was crazy mad. Yeah,

877
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: he's in. That's exactly a fantastic tight end class this year.

878
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean they're great. Literally, I think the kid from

879
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Oregon State's terrific. You know, at the tight ends.

880
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: From Iowa, Lapa, Tucker Craft. I mean, there's a there's

881
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: a ton of these guys.

882
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: I would love to see what the what's what the

883
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: scouting department says about him? From a physicality standpoint? At

884
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: that size? How physical does how physical do they think

885
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: he really plays?

886
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: You're talking about Washington?

887
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm talking about Washington. How physical does he play?

888
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Because he was he was the proverbial big wide receiver

889
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: Las Vegas wanted all the X number of touches, never

890
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: played inline until he got to college. And obviously he's

891
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: not the best tight end or most productive tied end

892
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: on that roster because everybody's gonna be talking about the

893
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: Browers kid next year in the draft, right, So what

894
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: do they think of him as a to be that size?

895
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: You better road grade some people, right? What kind of

896
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: blocker is he as a tight end? I'd love to

897
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: know what scouting departments think and shave him that way.

898
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Right now, we need to tell you about the Duncan

899
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: Rewards program. We can't tell what scouting departments think, but

900
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: we know that the Duncan Rewards program gives you rewards

901
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: that you can really use, No really use him on

902
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Speaker 1: free donuts, coffees, and breakfast sandwiches, and then you can

903
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Speaker 1: use free donuts off. He's in breakfast Sandwich used to say, Hey, Brent, hups,

904
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: thanks for coming over and doing another vall calls. We

905
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

906
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: Free donuts, free.

907
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: Donuts, and see I can do free donuts. If you

908
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: want donuts. Next Friday night, we'll have donuts.

909
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: Therefore, I'm the only guy that goes to Duncan and

910
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't buy coffee.

911
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: I just need dunk But I understand.

912
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: But I can go through all their varieties if I

913
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: never do a rundown.

914
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: Really don't. Thanks, You've got seven podcasts on doll quests.

915
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: Thanks too, all right, join Ducking.

916
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Speaker 1: Rewards today, saving stack abuse ab however you want, America

917
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: runs on Duncan terms apply. I think this is an

918
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Amy Wells question, isn't it.

919
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: It isn't Amy Wells question. So I'm gonna go ahead

920
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: and take it, Brent. Based on recruitment, their college career,

921
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, who's the player in

922
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: this draft class, who is maybe the least surprising top

923
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: prospect to you, who's just like, well, yeah, of course.

924
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: Will Anderson was, I mean the five star you know

925
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: when he committed, they went, oh hell about I got

926
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: another one of those huh, okay, that's I mean, that's

927
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: what he was.

928
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: But he started the minutey guy. Yeah.

929
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: I mean because he's he's he's freaky different now. I mean,

930
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, he he's he is a guy that a

931
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: lot of people say wow. And I said this to

932
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: Mike Hurler. I maybe he's a one trick pony as

933
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: a pass rusher, but he's stay on the field for

934
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: ever play. You know, he doesn't have to come off

935
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: the field. He's not a specialty guy. So he he

936
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: would he would come to mind. We've talked about Bryce

937
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: Young a lot, but that would be you know, that

938
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: would be a guy that that you go, okay, yeah,

939
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 2: he's supposed to be.

940
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: So surprising that didn't go to Alabama.

941
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: Like, probably go with one of the Georgia guys, right,

942
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: I mean there's some, there's some there's probably a Georgia

943
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: guy out there that that jumps out at you that way.

944
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: I mean the Robinson kidd at at Texas was was

945
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: a really really highly thought of guy. I mean that,

946
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: you know, so that's not I don't think anybody's surprised

947
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: by that one. I'm not gonna try to pronounce his name.

948
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: The receiver from Ohio State Jackson Smith, and yeah, I

949
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: mean he was a guy that everybody knew. I mean,

950
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, some of these guys. I

951
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: saw a stat where something like last maybe it's in

952
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: last year's draft or I can't remember, it was like

953
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the five stars ended up making it.

954
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: So thankfully with it. I mean, I think we're getting it,

955
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: getting quite a bit of it right. In the recruiting service.

956
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Well, I think you are too, because a lot of

957
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: the coaches who want to say, well they can they

958
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: get five star whatever, and those guys don't pay. We'll

959
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: take our three starts to it. I'll take the five

960
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: stars because I mean, if you pick up the magazines

961
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: now or you look at the websites now, and you

962
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: look at the five stars, the predictability in three years

963
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: for the NFL draft now four years, three years. The

964
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: predictability in the NFL draft has gotten so much stronger

965
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: over the last twenty five years and especially over the

966
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: last five to ten years. Whoever is doing the evaluation

967
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: for a company like ON three or other companies, I mean,

968
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: they're clearly getting more of it right.

969
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a couple of things that's happening there. One.

970
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: Kids are so much more visible. Okay, there's so much

971
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: more visible than they ever were. I mean, you know

972
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: nobody's watching VHS tapes anymore, right, I mean you're watching,

973
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 2: You're watching the hull. I mean you can go watch

974
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: the kids huddle. You want to go look at the

975
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: first round projections, go watch his huddle highlights in high school.

976
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: You can go watch and see what all these kids

977
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: did in high school because it's out there and available

978
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: to you. So I think that. I think the other

979
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: thing too, is kids are so much more prepared for

980
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: college now than they were because you don't have there's

981
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: developmental positions.

982
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Right.

983
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: We talked about Darnow and some of those, but there's

984
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: a lot of guys which mentioned Will Anderson. Look, got

985
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: a trainer, got a nutritionists, got that this, that's that.

986
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: So they arrive at college more ready to play when

987
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: they get off the bus. It's easier to evaluate, right.

988
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: I can watch Reggie Bush's highlight. Really, you know, he's

989
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: pretty good. I can watch you know, you canna watch

990
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: Will Anderson. That guy can play. That's not that's not

991
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: me and my my cave down there going well, I've

992
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: got all the answers to everything. It's like I can

993
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: give it to my son. Do you think of this kid? Yeah,

994
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: he's good, Okay, next one. I mean, so it's a

995
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm not knocking the recruiting guys. Some of them are

996
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: a little bit easier to evaluate than it used to

997
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: be in in my opinion.

998
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: Well, let's follow the Mike Keith train of thought here

999
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: with give me all the five stars. Has there ever

1000
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: been a guy that you've been following, covering you thought

1001
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: this guy's gonna be a great pro for whatever reason,

1002
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: and he's just not.

1003
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 2: I thought Derek Barnett would be a really, really good

1004
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: pro player. He's not been a terrible play He's been

1005
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: riddled by injury. He's had a lot to go against

1006
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: him that way. I watched Derek Barnett O six over

1007
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: here take over the Florida game. I mean it was

1008
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: it felt. I won't call him Leonard Little, but there

1009
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: were times when Leonard Little played that for three downs

1010
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: that nobody had a Nobody could do anything with Leonard level.

1011
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: They could do nothing with him. Derek Barnett had moments

1012
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: like that in O six, you know when he set

1013
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: to sack record at Tennessee. I thought that would translate.

1014
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was Miles Garrett, who was in

1015
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 2: that same class with him. Miles Garrett was a freak

1016
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: show beyond you know, he had some things he had

1017
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: to get right in his head. But physically, Derek Barnett

1018
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: was not that. But I thought Derek Barnett was big

1019
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 2: enough to play the run, could be a three down guy,

1020
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: but could really rush the passer well for a long

1021
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: time in the NFL, and it it didn't translate for

1022
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: him early he got beset by injuries after that. I

1023
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: don't know why, htt but it just I thought he

1024
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: would be a better pro, or more impactful pro than

1025
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: he's been.

1026
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: Well, and the physical part of it with him was

1027
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: what we would hear in evaluations and you know, just

1028
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: looking through things the year he came out, was that

1029
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: both shoulders and whatever, that it would end up wearing

1030
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 4: him down quicker. Now he's had other injuries than that,

1031
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: but yeah, I would agree with that. I thought, Ay,

1032
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: he got drafted high because he's you know, a terror

1033
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: up front and he'll do so well for somebody. And

1034
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 4: I agree, he has not done as well as I

1035
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: thought he would.

1036
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: Now we mentioned we are here at field House Social

1037
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 3: in Knoxville, and it is burgers and beer night. Maybe

1038
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: you're not a beer guy.

1039
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: Maybe not.

1040
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: Maybe you're not into beer. Maybe you're into wine like Brent.

1041
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: Wine. Well, I don't know that about it.

1042
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: About the Fooliage Club, Well, let me tell you a

1043
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 3: little bit about it. Brent Hubbs my new wine friend.

1044
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: Because I'm assuming there's no boxes involved at this right.

1045
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 3: Well, there are boxes involved in this. Let me tell

1046
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: you more before you guys keep wine. Oh no, it's

1047
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: not box wine. But the wine's talking about.

1048
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: It was there and.

1049
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: Get through.

1050
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: They come in a box. My god, I'm just trying

1051
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: to read.

1052
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: Go ahead, everybody else's read this. This is important.

1053
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 3: The Foolish Club is really the official Titans Wine Club,

1054
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: and they are handcrafted Napa Valley wines in bottles, not boxes,

1055
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: and they are exclusive to the Tennessee Titans. So as

1056
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 3: a member of the Foolish Club, you get the wine,

1057
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: you get private events, and you get complimentary tastings. If

1058
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 3: you go to Foolishclub dot com, you get three or

1059
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: six bottles you get to pick, and it comes in

1060
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: a box or a crate. That's how you receive your bottles.

1061
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: Of wine and they come twice a year. So you

1062
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: get your wine. You get other benefits too. If you

1063
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: join the Foolish Club today, your whole wine game will

1064
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Speaker 3: be elevated. I promise Foolish Club dot com to learn more.

1065
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Speaker 1: Rett Bryan, I've got to ask you a question about

1066
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: something I've been reading about. Okay, we've been reading a

1067
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: lot about this S two cognitive test S two. When

1068
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: did it replace the Wonderlick for quarterbacks? And why is

1069
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: it reportedly hurting a guy like Stroud from Ohio State CJ.

1070
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Stroud right now?

1071
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I would lie to you and

1072
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 4: tell you I've known about this for years, but I haven't.

1073
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: I honestly, I didn't hear.

1074
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: The first time I ever heard about the S to

1075
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: Cognitive test was about six months ago. And I'm like, well,

1076
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: that's why I haven't been hearing about quarterbacks or whoever's

1077
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: supposed Wonderlick tests. And so it's a couple of guys,

1078
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: it's a Nashville based company. Couple of really smart guys

1079
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 4: put this together.

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Speaker 1: Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Nashville, Tennessee. And the amazing thing about this is

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Speaker 4: it's not just for sports. It's for neurology, for super

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Speaker 4: science and determining early factors with MS, with Alzheimer's, all

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Speaker 4: these things in the medical field.

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Speaker 1: But what it is is this test is.

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Speaker 4: To check someone's speed and recognition and decision making like

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Speaker 4: a quarterback must do in a very small window of

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Speaker 4: time on Sundays. And since twenty sixteen, there's been like

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Speaker 4: four thousand guys who've taken the test. And it really

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Speaker 4: started coming to light when Brock Purdy, the third string

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Speaker 4: quarterback became the starter for a good chunk of the

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Speaker 4: season for the forty nine ers last year, who scored

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Speaker 4: in the ninety seventh percent island is because he hasted it.

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Speaker 4: He hasted it. Well, guess who else aist it? A

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Speaker 4: guy we've been talking about all hour. Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Reportedly, like Lance Erleine, reported this last week on his podcast,

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Speaker 1: Reportedly c J. Stroud did not do well on it. CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud and Anthony Richardson. I've seen reports where both of

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Speaker 4: those scored between the eightieth and ninetieth percentile, which to

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Speaker 4: me doesn't sound bad. But apparently if you ace this one,

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Speaker 4: you've got something at quarterback, whereas it's not Wait a minute,

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Speaker 4: Amy Wells with a strange look here.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I think this is great. I'm wondering if

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Speaker 3: anybody has checked on Ryan Fitzpatrick now that the wonder

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00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: Lick is not a thing, because his whole like party

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00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: conversation starter is his Wonderlicks store. Right, it's all he

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Speaker 3: talks about. Hey, eight.

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Speaker 1: Backnally scored a.

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Speaker 3: Fifty, But like, is he okay? Do we know?

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Speaker 1: This? Is this decision? All of that.

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Speaker 4: It's not about there's a train headed to Knoxville to

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Speaker 4: come to the next dunkin Donuts.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's good how you're doing it? And yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and what a burger seventy miles an hour and

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00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: it goes so many feet per hour? How long does it? Right?

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Speaker 1: It's not about intelligence quotion.

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Speaker 4: It's about decision making, retention, which is the job, all

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Speaker 4: of those things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not it's not about how big

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Speaker 2: you are at that position. It's about how quick you

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Speaker 2: can see it, decide and go.

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Speaker 1: Reportedly, Hendon Hooker did very well on it. Reportedly, Will

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Speaker 1: Levis did very well on it. Joe Burrow had a

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Speaker 1: ninety one. Who yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Here's what happens you just mentioned Joe Burrow did well

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Speaker 2: on it, right, pretty good player in the league. Right,

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00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: everybody wants the next one. Right Yep. That Rock Party

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Speaker 2: who came out of nowhere did well on it. So

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Speaker 2: what happens. What happens now with the league? It now

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Speaker 2: becomes for so many people's a copycat world. Well, if

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Speaker 2: those guys don't get that, that's the thing that that

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Speaker 2: that is the thing you got to have that that's

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Speaker 2: the measurable for a lot of people now because of

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Speaker 2: the success those guys right.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Lance Zerline quoted something that I've heard two

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Speaker 1: other NFL draft analysts quote is that in the seven

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Speaker 1: years that it has started to become the standard with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: no one to this point who has not done well

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Speaker 1: on it has been a successful NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit of record. At some point somebody will blow that

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Speaker 1: out of the water, as they always do. There's an

1143
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: anomaly we we keep reading about and learning about the

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Speaker 1: S two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again everybody is trying to figure out some

1146
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: metric to analyze someone's decision making under the gun under pressure.

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 4: Sure, but the thing is this is used in medicine

1148
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 4: to determine do you have the early marks of multiple

1149
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 4: sclerosis or something. You know, some horrible things like this

1150
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Speaker 4: that are actually helping early detection of this.

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Speaker 2: It's a fascinating it's a fascinating thing that's got a

1152
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: much bigger scope that the NFL has tagged into to

1153
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Speaker 2: help themselves.

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Speaker 1: Not surprising that with Nashville being the healthcare capital that

1155
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: it is, that it would be developed there. That's a

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Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, all right, Lightning round. Amy Wells OTP

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Speaker 1: presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans not my strength.

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Speaker 2: Oh come on now, I like to ramble.

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00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: Hubbs on this one, then Amy Wells, then Rhett Bryan.

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Speaker 1: Here is the question, based on need, fit, and every

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00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: other factor, who is the most likely Tennessee volunteer to

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00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: end up a Tennessee tight.

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Speaker 2: I'll go Darnell right, Darnell right, because you need you need,

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Speaker 2: you need an offensive tackle. I'm gonna go Darnell Right.

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Speaker 3: That one's mine, Darnell Wright. The Titans need it. He

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Speaker 3: could be there.

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Speaker 1: Three for three. Wow, m H, I had a ritten.

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Speaker 3: Now all right, lightning fast.

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Speaker 1: Rett Bryan gets to go first in this one based

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Speaker 1: on need, fit and every other factor. Who is the

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Speaker 1: most likely SEC player? And we've already talked Tennessee, but

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Speaker 1: who is the play the game right? Who is the

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: most likely SEC player to be the first player selected

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Speaker 1: by the Tennessee type. A guy who had a nice

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Speaker 1: week at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 4: He had a good combine, nearly six two two twenty

1179
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Speaker 4: giant hands, pretty good wing, ran a four four six forty,

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Speaker 4: really good in college as a productive receiver.

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Speaker 1: And that's Jonathan Mingo Ole Miss Wow.

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Speaker 3: Whoa wow, good play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be a third rounder though, isn't

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Speaker 1: it Okay? I like the Jonathan Mingo amy.

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Speaker 3: I got mine solely from Jim wae It's Tour of

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Speaker 3: the mox, which is my bible this time of year.

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Speaker 3: So Tennessee Titans dot com if you want to check

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Speaker 3: out Jim White.

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Speaker 1: Jim Waatt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of all the mock drafts. Broderick Jones, offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: from George is a guy who has consistently shown up

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Speaker 3: on the MOX. I like him. He could fit. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't mind if he was a Tennessee Titan. And that

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Speaker 3: fits the SEC player qualifications of.

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Speaker 1: The game check check.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of Broderick Jones if you're not

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Speaker 2: going if you're not going offensive lineman at eleven, I

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Speaker 2: think I think Broderick Jones makes a lot of sense

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: I think Broderick Jones is gonna be. I think he's

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Speaker 1: I think the tackles are gonna come off pretty quickly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think they're going to rise. I think if

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Speaker 1: you're thinking you can drop back to eighteen or twenty

1204
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Speaker 1: and end up with one of those guys because they

1205
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: are so safe in this draft where there's not as

1206
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Speaker 1: much safe at the top of the draft. Mike, we

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Speaker 1: may live in a world next week where Broderick Jones

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Speaker 1: gets taken ahead of Paris Johnson Junior. Yeah, time to

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Speaker 1: be or Darnell Wright may go ahead of all of it.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not about what's in these mocks. It's about

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Speaker 1: what's on people's boards. And and there's probably one of

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Speaker 1: these teams that is just absolutely salivating at the at

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Speaker 1: the prospect of getting Darnell One of those war room

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Speaker 1: boards are different.

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Speaker 4: There's thirty two of them, and yeah it they may

1216
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Speaker 4: be that may be their favorite flavor of ice cream.

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Speaker 1: Right there, all right, Brent Hubbs has to answer.

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Speaker 2: This now question trying to Phillip.

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Speaker 1: Who's the most likely SEC player to be the first

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Speaker 1: player selected by the type?

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Speaker 2: I could see I could see Cedric Tilben. Really I

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Speaker 2: think he I think he. I think you guys could

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Speaker 2: use the receiver. Yeah, oh yeah, I think he could

1224
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Speaker 2: use the receiver. I think he's a big body guy

1225
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Speaker 2: that fits fits a lot of what what you may

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Speaker 2: be looking for. I can see I could see that

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Speaker 2: a receiver taken there. I think I think may go

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Speaker 2: higher the Jalen hide, which I didn't think that three

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, four weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brenda is a big fan of the outdoors

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Speaker 1: and he loves and he loves burgers like it. What

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Speaker 3: All right, what a burger the other night?

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Speaker 1: And it was fire strong?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really good.

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Speaker 1: All right? Amy, you go first on the last one,

1242
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Speaker 1: trade up in the first round. Make the pick at

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Speaker 1: eleven trade down in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Which do I think?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's yeah, see.

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Speaker 3: Myself, sometimes I think they trade down. Do you really

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Speaker 3: I think they trade down. I think that picks are

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Speaker 3: currency and the Tennessee Titans could use some. I think

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Speaker 3: they trade down. There will be a lot of talent

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Speaker 3: a little bit later in that first round.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, Brent gets to go next on.

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Speaker 2: This one makes total sense. What she's saying. Now, here's

1253
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: the thing. You've got needs in a lot of places.

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Speaker 2: Have you fallen in love with with somebody said that,

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Speaker 2: You're just sitting there going, you know what, we love

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Speaker 2: this guy and we're not gonna take a chance on

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Speaker 2: him being there not being there at eighteen, you know,

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Speaker 2: or fifteen or twenty or whatever. You move down currency

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Speaker 2: and picks. I totally get that you got a lot

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Speaker 2: of needs. But you know, does the head coach, you know,

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Speaker 2: does the scouting department, the GM everybody say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna pass on this guy. We think this

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Speaker 2: guy can be a franchise guy for us, and we're

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Speaker 2: just not gonna take that chance. With that in mind,

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Speaker 2: I will go opposite of Amy and say you hold

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Speaker 2: patted seven at eleven and you pick it eleven.

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Speaker 4: Okay, RTT Bryant, trade down, Trade down. It's an eternity

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Speaker 4: from pick seventy two to pick one forty seven. Not

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Speaker 4: only is there a whole day separating it, but it's

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Speaker 4: it's a long time to be sitting there watching guys

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Speaker 4: fly off the board, because again, this is a draft

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Speaker 4: where you know, pick in the forties all the way

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Speaker 4: to pick one hundred and fifty is gonna be some

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Speaker 4: pretty good stuff in there, and you not having a

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Speaker 4: stop gap after seventy two. I think it's important.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's important too because as of today, the

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Speaker 1: Titans have signed veteran linebacker Ben Neeman, who has played

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Speaker 1: in seventy nine NFL games, four years with Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: a season with Arizona. He's been a starting linebacker, he's

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Speaker 1: been a backup linebacker, he's played teams. All of those

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Speaker 1: things are true about Ben Neeman. The most important thing

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Speaker 1: to remember today as we discuss it, is the Titans

1283
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: only have sixty one players on the rosterum. They've got

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Speaker 1: to get to ninety by training camp. That means they

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Speaker 1: need a bunch of rookies for training camp. Some of

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Speaker 1: them will be undrafteds, granted, but they need as many

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Speaker 1: draft picks as they can, which is why trading down

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Speaker 1: makes sense. But Brent's point. Brent's point is really spot on,

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Speaker 1: because the thought about this draft is where there are

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Speaker 1: usually on average, between twenty and twenty five first round grades,

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Speaker 1: meaning if you look at the collective thirty two boards

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Speaker 1: and you average them, in most years, they're between twenty

1293
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: and twenty five first round grades. This year, the thought,

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01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: and we heard this from Jim Naggy at the Senior

1295
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: Bowl and we've heard at other places, there are less

1296
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: true first round grades in this draft the thought process

1297
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: there may not be many more than fifteen. So if

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01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: you're at eleven, you have a chance to get one

1299
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: of those exceptional players.

1300
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 4: Well, it might to further the theory, and I think Brent

1301
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 4: could certainly be right. Let's say four quarterbacks go before

1302
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,479
Speaker 4: the Titans pick at eleven. Well, now that's like picking

1303
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 4: at number seven overall.

1304
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, here's the thing, what do you do

1305
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: if Jalen Carter is there to left? I'm gonna tell you, so,

1306
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: all this talk about Jalen Carter is gonna fall to

1307
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: twenty five. Ain't happy. Ain't happy. I mean, he may

1308
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: have issues. Put him up there with Jeffrey Simmons. Oh

1309
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: but but I'm saying, if if something like that happens,

1310
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: do you just say we we can't forget. I mean,

1311
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he gets by Seattle because I think

1312
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: I think.

1313
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: That he's got he's got Peak Carroll. He is he

1314
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: is a peak. That is a Peak Carroll kind of Well.

1315
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they'll have somebody live with him who you know,

1316
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: drives him everywhere to practice and make sure he's on

1317
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: time for everything.

1318
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a peak.

1319
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, b John Robinson might be the best player

1320
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: in this draft, maybe, but Carter is a dominant play

1321
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: He was a five star coming out of high school.

1322
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: And he is a dominant player who doesn't have a

1323
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: lot of tread off the tire because that rotation at

1324
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: Georgia is so great. So I mean, if he's there

1325
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: to eleven, Amy, I mean that's a that's potentially or

1326
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: somebody like that, I guess is witch.

1327
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: There are some people that I think every team or

1328
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 3: a lot of teams designate as like tear up the

1329
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: tear up the board. We got to look at what

1330
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: we were doing here. You know, if so and so

1331
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: falls to this point, we've got to reevaluate everything. I

1332
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 3: think there's some of those hot names for every team,

1333
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: and they're different for every team.

1334
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: It is in your opinion is if it's not a quarterback,

1335
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: then there's nobody that you say, I'm holding at eleven

1336
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: because this guy. I'm taking this guy to eleven because

1337
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: he's a must outside of a quarterback. Well, and I'm

1338
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: not just talking about the Titans. I'm talking about for other

1339
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: franchises out there.

1340
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: It depends on what who you have number one on

1341
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 4: your board. You know, if you're a team that doesn't

1342
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 4: need a quarterback, and you know, let's say Jalen Carter

1343
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 4: is your guy and he's falling to that point, you know,

1344
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 4: comments and says, all right, there's a guy.

1345
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: The beauty two is let's say there's a quarterback that's

1346
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: still there that the Titans aren't in love with at

1347
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: a level, and someone makes a phone and somebody makes

1348
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: a phone call because they are in love knowing that

1349
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: Houston has twelve and if Houston does what's being reported

1350
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: and I don't really believe it, but there's there are

1351
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people who think they're gonna take a

1352
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: Will Anderson or be true and they're gonna let it.

1353
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna take a Will Anderson at two and then

1354
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: try to take the quarterback who falls at twelve, or

1355
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna deal up a little bit take the

1356
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: quarterback at nine. I don't know, but the bottom line is,

1357
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: if you've got teams sitting there wanting the quarterback, then eleven.

1358
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: If the quarterback's not your guy, then eleven becomes really valuable,

1359
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: just like in the Patrick Mahomes Deshaun Watson draft where

1360
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: teams came up to ten and eleven to get those

1361
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: two guys.

1362
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: So do you think do you guys think that people

1363
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: that teams because there is a perceived lack of first

1364
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: round in terms of numbers and what people are labeling

1365
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 2: the first round pick. Do franchises do they listen to

1366
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: phone calls more this year than in other years of

1367
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: the draft.

1368
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't think they listen more. I think they listen

1369
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: every year. I think they would. I think they can

1370
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: get more for one of those picks to move down

1371
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: because I think a team that picks up the phone

1372
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: is more in love than they normally would be and

1373
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: so they'll play ball and Brent.

1374
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 4: A lot of those conversations started that week at the

1375
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: combine in Rynneapolis. Everybody knows everybody. I coached with this guy,

1376
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 4: or I've known this guy or whatever, and they go

1377
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 4: to dinner together.

1378
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: They Hey, man, if I could, would you, I just

1379
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to thank Brent Hubbs for being here tonight

1380
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: in field questions, Well you can in a second. We're

1381
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: on the verge of we've done the longest game in

1382
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: NFL history, and now we've done the longest podcast. Senor question,

1383
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: just keep going. We've already blown the record.

1384
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: So what do the Jets do if the Aaron Rodgers

1385
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 2: thing doesn't happen? Where do they go? Draft wise? Now,

1386
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: if they if they don't get Aaron Rodgers, it's gonna happen.

1387
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: They would have to go quarterback because.

1388
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: They they've got to trade up.

1389
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, their phone's ringing, right, Yeah, they would

1390
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: have to.

1391
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 4: And the Jets see they have ten uh, the New

1392
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 4: York Jets have six picks, but they have they have thirteen.

1393
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: Thirteen they have Yeah, they've got to go up.

1394
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 4: If that doesn't work, well, they've got back to back

1395
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 4: picks in the second round.

1396
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: The whole thing is I mean, so you've got some

1397
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: but what the packers are doing is beautiful right now.

1398
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: And if I read one more of the columns about it,

1399
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: it's not for what's it's a business. He's gonna go.

1400
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna go. But you're gonna sit there If you're

1401
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: the packers and you're already taking the cap hit on

1402
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: your top fifty one, which they are right now, you know, yeah,

1403
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: so what do they care if it goes another week?

1404
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: Because the Jets are in the they're backed into the corner,

1405
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 1: totally back end of the corner with their fan base.

1406
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: About this, Aaron Rodgers say, you got Mike Greenberg on ESPN,

1407
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: who's the biggest Jets fan in the world, and he's

1408
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: talking about jumping or cutting off fingers or do I

1409
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: mean he is? I mean, it's he's gone crazy if

1410
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: this doesn't happen. But if you're the packers, what do

1411
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: you get? You want? Hey, you want those two too's,

1412
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: is what you Forty two and forty You want those

1413
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: two toos because then they'd have forty two, forty three

1414
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: and forty five. You can package or you can corner

1415
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: the market. Very early in Night two. That's what you want.

1416
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: You don't just want one of them, you want both

1417
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: of them. You're not gonna get a one, right, but

1418
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: you want both of those tools.

1419
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 3: The packers have the jets in the palm of their

1420
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: long goes.

1421
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: I think Aaron Rodgers is in New York and I

1422
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 4: think Lamar Jackson stays in Baltimore.

1423
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: But what do we think? It's awkward as the longest

1424
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: OTP in the history of OTV.

1425
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 3: You said, we keep going, we can all place to good?

1426
01:09:59,520 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1427
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: Sorry. When I worked with Mike it was a four

1428
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: hour show.

1429
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: Is not what we do? There?

1430
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: You go? Is that not what?

1431
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: We had to fill a lot?

1432
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 3: Keep it going, fill a time.

1433
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 2: What's the third minute break to wake?

1434
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: We had the thirty minute break, We had the fifteen

1435
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: minute news.

1436
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: And Paul Harvey, the traffic guy who would go seven minutes.

1437
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great. What were we talking about?

1438
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 3: We're talking about Baltimore?

1439
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: Thank you? Yes, what does Baltimore think about the Jadalen

1440
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: Hurts contract that happened earlier today? Does it help Baltimore

1441
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: because it sets a parameter and now Lamar Jackson sort

1442
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: of has to come to the table when it wasn't

1443
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. I believe that would be or or does

1444
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson just say you offered me that three months

1445
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: ago or last fall or whenever it was. I'm still

1446
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: holding to my guns because you've made me so mad

1447
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: in this process. Now it's about well.

1448
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: And what what does Monkin think? Right? The offense that

1449
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: was there with the previous coordinator was all built for Lamar.

1450
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: Is that what Monkin wants to do? That's not what

1451
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: they did at Georgia. He was very pro style, It

1452
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: was very tied in, it was very play action passed.

1453
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: What does Monkin want to do as an offensive coordinator?

1454
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: Does he think he can fit Lamar Jackson into that?

1455
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: And then conversely, is Jamar Lamar Jackson's agent out there

1456
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: telling him that listen, man, I've made a bunch of

1457
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: calls around the league. You better take what you can

1458
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 2: get right here, because the best dude you got going

1459
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: as the Baltimore thing, right.

1460
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: We didn't have an agent.

1461
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: Well that's right, okay.

1462
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean one of the reasons why mother has been

1463
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: from the start.

1464
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: Including his high school recruitment by the way, really, oh yeah.

1465
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: Was that.

1466
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 2: He went to Louisville.

1467
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, no offense but Miami.

1468
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he went. He ended up in Louisville

1469
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: from Miami, passed a lot of really good schools along

1470
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: the way. They wanted him, well, they liked his talent.

1471
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: Not sure they wanted all that came with.

1472
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: Him, okay, because we got some drama.

1473
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 2: They got a little drama, and there we're seeing. We've

1474
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: seen that drama in Baltimore the last few months.

1475
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: I've asked Ritt the question is the drama killing him

1476
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: right now? With potential suitors who were out there talking

1477
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: about NFL.

1478
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 4: Teams, Well, it ain't helping him, honestly. The fact that

1479
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 4: he doesn't have an agent, I think is a big

1480
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: problem in this.

1481
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 1: Well, because it gets And I said this in talking

1482
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: to Baltimore's play by play announcer. At one point, I said,

1483
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 1: do you fear that something gets personal at some point?

1484
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: And he said yeah, I mean he I mean, he

1485
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: said it one hundred percent that he feared and this

1486
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: is when things were happy and wonderful a couple of

1487
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: years ago. But man, I think you always want to

1488
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: have an agent just so you're able to step away

1489
01:12:59,560 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: from it.

1490
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 3: Well, it seems like in the same breath that we're

1491
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: saying well, it's a business, and you know, everybody's got

1492
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 3: to do what's best for themselves and their parties. On

1493
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: the other hand, it seems like he has just burned

1494
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 3: every bridge that he can and all of the sudden

1495
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: you're in a situation where the Ravens aren't happy, He's

1496
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 3: not happy. How are these two people going to or

1497
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 3: these two parties, I guess going to go forward and

1498
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 3: not have things that are lingering. Oh yeah, I having

1499
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 3: some uncomfortable moments, to put it mildly, and then with

1500
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: all that other like go forth into a football season.

1501
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: How do you lead a locker room?

1502
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 4: And see, that's why I say it's a big mistake

1503
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 4: on Lamar's part for not having an agent in this

1504
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 4: and going back to the drama thing, because at the

1505
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 4: very least, not only can this person facilitate a deal

1506
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 4: for you, but he serves as a filter. If you're

1507
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,480
Speaker 4: your own guy, you may hear from the brass exactly

1508
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 4: what they think of you, and it may put a

1509
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 4: burn you. Well, we may never get over it.

1510
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: And here's here's the other thing too. If you have

1511
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: someone who represents you, they can also speak on your

1512
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 2: behalf to things that need to get leaked out there.

1513
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: He got mad because the narrative was out there that

1514
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: he was hurt all the time. Nobody could respond to

1515
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: it but Lamar. So then it becomes a personal thing

1516
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: what Amy's talking about, whereas if it's team Lamar, they

1517
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: can create it, craft and spend something he can't do that.

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01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: That's a great point. That is a fabulous point because

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: a lot of where this whole thing is right now

1520
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: with oh, so and so's the number one tackle or

1521
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: so and so is is.

1522
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,480
Speaker 3: This guy's agents.

1523
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: It's agents, and it's agents spinning narratives to get things

1524
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: sort of filtering the right way. The teams don't care

1525
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,879
Speaker 1: anything about that. It's where we get all these announced

1526
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: contract numbers. It comes from the age well, and that's

1527
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: to make them look good because they just got their

1528
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: guy all this money, which is great. I mean, everybody's

1529
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: got to have a job. There's nothing illegal about that.

1530
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: But if Darnell right is the first tackle that comes

1531
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: off the board, there will be some people going it's

1532
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: a huge surprise. Why is it a huge surprise? Because

1533
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: you've read all these mock drafts of these people who

1534
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: have no idea what's on a board, And I love

1535
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 1: the mock drafts, and I think the people who are

1536
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: doing them are good at their job. But the only

1537
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: people that count are the people who sit in that

1538
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: room and build those boards, and you don't know what

1539
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: they think. If if the Bears absolutely love Darnell right

1540
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: at nine, that's who they're taking.

1541
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: And that's the beautiful part of the draft. We were

1542
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:41,879
Speaker 2: talking about before we started the podcaster.

1543
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: It's the couple hours ago.

1544
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the human side that you can't cover because

1545
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what Rock Conference statement right now.

1546
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: Element well, and that's the thing about us. And I

1547
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: was on with our buddy John Wilkerson this morning on

1548
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: the Sports Animal in Knoxville on his new time, and

1549
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: that's what I said about Ran Carthon. I like him.

1550
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: He's been very nice to me. We've had some good conversations,

1551
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: but I don't know him, know him yet to kind

1552
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 1: of know what's it. I mean, could he go up

1553
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: to three, yeah, could he drop back to twenty? Yeah?

1554
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: Could he trade this guy or trade that guy? Or yeah?

1555
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know.

1556
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 2: Well, and you're exactly right. And then I look at

1557
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: a team like the New England Patriots. Okay, they're in

1558
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 2: a pretty interesting transitional spot. Right, They've always kind of

1559
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 2: had their draft model and all those things. Well, guess

1560
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 2: who's in the building now. Bill O'Brien's in the building now.

1561
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 2: He's just come out of college. He's got a pretty

1562
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: good feel for college teams. He's been a part of

1563
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 2: running a franchise in Houston and messed all that up.

1564
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: But there were some things that went on.

1565
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: For a while. He won the division four times.

1566
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: Right, So, so now is their draft philosophy. Does it

1567
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: take any kind of shift with where they are? Do

1568
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: we see them draft differently then we've seen them in

1569
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: the past, because they have always been a hateless pile picks, right,

1570
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna pile ups. Do they go a different approach?

1571
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: And that's where I don't think the Lamar Jackson to

1572
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 1: the Patriots thing is crazy. The same way the Lamar

1573
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 1: Jackson to Indianapolis thing doesn't feel totally crazy is because

1574
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: this is a guy who put a system together in

1575
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: Houston for Watson, and I mean he was able to

1576
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: come in and play it right away, got hurt very

1577
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: early in his rookie Bill O'Brien takes a bad rap

1578
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: because he traded DeAndre Hopkins and he did a couple

1579
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 1: other things that weren't great. Still can really coach, and

1580
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: still can really coach offense.

1581
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: And you know the first thing he wants to do

1582
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: because at some point he wants to be back in

1583
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: the lead chair. Right, That's where we're getting there. So

1584
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: he wants to as quickly as he can put his

1585
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: fingerprint on the system up there, on his system, right

1586
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 2: that it's not just the Belichick way, and it's not

1587
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: from all these former coordinators who went on to be

1588
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: head coaches and didn't pan out for him, right.

1589
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wonder if mac Jones didn't in

1590
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: traded somewhere on draft night.

1591
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: Would But I'm curious as the words, because you know

1592
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: he's got carte blanche, right, Bill Belichick's going, hey, the owner, Yeah,

1593
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: and from the owner, we know you, we trust you.

1594
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: Fix our offense, that's right, get it going.

1595
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: And they've got eleven picks, by the way.

1596
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: Which is the Bill Belichick way. They and then they

1597
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 2: can collect all these picks and take rugby players when

1598
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: they had Tom Brady at.

1599
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: The quarterback, that's right.

1600
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta fix it.

1601
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if they don't get the quarterback things straight,

1602
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's going to the Hall of Fame. He's

1603
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna end up winning the most games of all time.

1604
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: He's a great coach, there's no question about it. But

1605
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: he ain't winning anything else, including his division, until they

1606
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: get the quarterback things right.

1607
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: And those are two Those are two franchises, Baltimore and

1608
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: New England that have quarterbacks. Now, Lamar's Lamar right now.

1609
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: We don't know what's going to happen there, Matt Jones,

1610
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 2: but they have new coordinators. Do their coordinators believe that

1611
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks are the leader of their system and their friendship?

1612
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: We find out thanks of it, we find out in

1613
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: ten days. Isn't it great?

1614
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: I'm so excited?

1615
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: All right? Brent Hubbs, thank you so much for the time.

1616
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, and remind everyone that our draft coverage

1617
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: on Titan's Radio begins at six Central at sixth and Peabody,

1618
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: presented by our great friends at Pinnacle, and that will

1619
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: be Rhetbrian Coach, Dave McGinnis, myself, and Ramon Foster Amy

1620
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: Wells from Kansas City with Ashley Ferrell. And then on

1621
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: April the twenty eighth, we're joined by Brent Hubbs from

1622
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: on Threesvaulquest dot Com and nearly thirty years with Vallradio Network.

1623
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: He will join coach mac Rhetbrian and Me at six

1624
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: o'clock for rounds two and three. Thank you so much

1625
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: to all of you for being here tonight. This is great.

1626
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: Thank you for staying awake.

1627
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 3: Ask a question.

1628
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: Say the longest podcast in NFL his But I feel

1629
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: like it's been very entertaining. I I'm hungry now here

1630
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: at field House Social.

1631
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 3: I know it smells delightful.

1632
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: I hear a lot about the talks.

1633
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 3: The talks hours ago, yeah, yeah, three to five hours.

1634
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 3: Do you want to say he started this show? Well,

1635
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: I was just going to say something small and more

1636
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 3: dark out by the way. No, it's not. I wanted

1637
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: to ask you while we're here, while we have a

1638
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 3: captive audience, until you have to answer the question. Okay,

1639
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. Mike Keith has joined social media. No,

1640
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 3: I know, can we all get excited about this? One

1641
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 3: hundred percent?

1642
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: He has?

1643
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 3: He's on Instagram.

1644
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 2: Did he have a Jennifer Aniston type day to a

1645
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: million right out of the gate.

1646
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 3: Well, we're working on it. That's why we're here the

1647
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 3: whole No. But he really is n I thought she

1648
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 3: had like a breakdown or something, and I was like,

1649
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 3: oh god, no, it's fine. No, but seriously, why why now?

1650
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: Why have you decided to do this? You finally pulled

1651
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,520
Speaker 3: the trigger after much public outcry.

1652
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: I don't know that it was much public out.

1653
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 3: Did you not see all of these people cheering for you?

1654
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: So they're now looking for ten voice on Instagram to

1655
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: the end.

1656
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: Voice ten Voice.

1657
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: Because because I've had the opportunity to talk with some

1658
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: of our great Titans fans who have said that you

1659
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: get to go to a lot of cool places and

1660
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: do a lot of cool things and do it with

1661
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: cool people, and why don't you share more of that?

1662
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 3: Pictures are it didn't happen kind of thing? Pardon like

1663
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 3: pictures or it didn't happen?

1664
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: No, I know. I think it's just a matter of

1665
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: let's show folks, let's give the people what they want.

1666
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: And I saw somebody on Saturday and had a great

1667
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: experience with him, and it made me realize that I

1668
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 1: should be working at this some So yeah, I'm on Instagram.

1669
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 3: Mike Keith did it. Ladies and gentlemen, and everybody's on

1670
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 3: their phones right now, like everybody. This is great like instagrams.

1671
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: There you go, my instagram st But I'm still learning

1672
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: what stories and reels are very basic because thirty years.

1673
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we took two hours to get to this.

1674
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 2: This should be question one. I just sent here and

1675
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: disbelieve for the last hour. Listen to me, M that's okay.

1676
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: We we wanted to have the longest podcast in NFL history,

1677
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: so I need to get a T shirt made up

1678
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: for that, like I did for the longest game. And

1679
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: then if it's entirely yeah, it's okay. Yes, well it's

1680
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: a really good show. Hubert. We appreciate you being here.

1681
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: I think everybody understands why we want you on the

1682
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: second night of the draft in all seriousness, your your insight.

1683
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: U just so many different guys and programs and stories

1684
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: going to add a lot. Coach Mac is Coach Mac,

1685
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: and everybody loves Coach Mac, right, I mean he's yeah,

1686
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 1: you clap for Coach Mac anytime. He's the best. He

1687
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: knows it, he's very aware of it. We're all aware

1688
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: of it. We're thankful for him. And Ret Brian does

1689
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of bork and I'm so excited. Amy

1690
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: that you're getting back on the road to go back

1691
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: to the draft for the first time since really twenty eighteen,

1692
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: because in twenty nineteen the draft was in Nashville.

1693
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, in twenty nineteen it was here, so it's or

1694
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 3: it was in Nashville. So I'm excited to be going back,

1695
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 3: getting back into the madness of Draft weekend. It's crazy,

1696
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 3: but I can't wait. I'm excited to be in the

1697
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: thick of it, and I'm excited to share all of

1698
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 3: that with Titans Radio.

1699
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: Well, we need to cut this off before curfew hits.

1700
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: The police are here. Thank Kickings, so thank you to

1701
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: field House Social. Thank you to all of you for

1702
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: being here and our friends at the University of Tennessee.

1703
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: The Titans road show is going swimmingly and we'd love

1704
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: for you to come out and see us, whether we

1705
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: be in Chattanooga or Murphy's Borough or Memphis. Coming up

1706
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: for Brent Hubbs, for Rhet, Brian for Amy Wells, I'm

1707
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: my Keith. Thanking you for joining us for the Oh

1708
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: t key, tighten up, everybody.

1709
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Welcome to the big show where the legends go. Everybody

1710
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,440
Speaker 2: knows Who's it's our house, Finding Vaught Tennessee make a history.

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01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: Cleanness. That's a B.