1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hey, we've got the great Pitching Ninja with us Rob 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Friedman back on Foul Territory. Check out everything Pitching Ninja 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: brings to the table, Twitter, YouTube and everywhere else. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: Rob. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Great to have you on. I do want to start 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: with history sho he Otani is going to pitch for 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: the first time in the postseason, and I just want 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that we don't miss the moment and 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: how cool it is that somebody's going to pitch in 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: October baseball and still obviously be one of their most 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: valuable bats. So your expectations for Otani here, and do 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: you think that they lined him up correctly by putting 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: him in a spot where he can get the day 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: off after the first one? 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love it. Anytime you can get 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Showha on the bump, it's like Christmas for me, Like 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: that is fantastic. He's he's been filthy, like I hope 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: everybody's been paying attention, like arguably as nasty as anybody 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: on the planet. So yeah, I expect big things out 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: of them. 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: And then also I wanted to ask you about Roki 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Sasaki and how much you've followed his story throughout the year. 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: He was one of maybe three that dominated the offseason 24 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: headlines for US rob and then it was pretty much 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: a nothing burger for the entire year due to end 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: effectiveness and injury. Did you see this coming? And what 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: are you seeing right now? Isn't this the Rokie that 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: we expected? Forget it? 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Can he do that over five six innings? Whatever? 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: But right now we were all excited about the fastball 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: splitter combination, and here it. 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: Is literally the guy that we expected. There were a 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: ton of comments. I posted his highlights from his last appearance, 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: and a bunch of Japanese fans were like, this is 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: the Roki Sasaki of the two consecutive no hitter type guy, 36 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: Like this was what everybody expected. 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: I noticed a little change in his mechanics. 38 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if any of you all noticed, but 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: he's got more bend in his back leg now, and 40 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: I think he is more glute dominant than quad dominant, 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: which helped him with his velo. And I'm sure the 42 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: Dodgers worked on that while he was struggling and fixed 43 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: him in the minor leagues. But he looked fantastic, like 44 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: this was the Rokie all of six we all expected. 45 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 5: Obviously see him in a closing role as something new, 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: but it's not the easiest thing, and kind of piggybacking 47 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: on the whole show Hey thing. Are both of these 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 5: guys set up to one because the Dodgers want to 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: make a deep run? Are they set up to recover 50 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: and be able to give the team all that the 51 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 5: team's gonna need? Roki in the bullpen? Can he bounce 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 5: back from a intense max effort ninth inning and pitch 53 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 5: again in the ninth inning again? Can show Hey bounce 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 5: back for Game five? Because that's what you want from 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: your game one starter. 56 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: I have little doubt about show Hey bouncing back. Show 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: He's been there, you know, he started for forever. He 58 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: knows what he's doing and is incredibly talented. Rokie, I'm 59 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: a little a little more skeptical of, or a little 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: more worried, because being a closer in the postseason is 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: a whole different ballgame. And you know, I know his 62 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: mechanics have been fit. I know his stuff looks really good. 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: But when you got a hostile crowd yelling at you, 64 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: all things go to hell. Like I you know, we'll see, 65 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: but he looks really good. He looks like he's pitching 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: well within himself, so I'm optimistic that he'll be good. 67 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: His stuff is definitely good enough to play at the 68 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: end of the game. But whether he can bounce back 69 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: and deal with hostile crowds and stuff like that, you know, 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: we'll see will be Will he turn up his game 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: like Cam Schlitzler did last night? 72 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was absolutely ridiculous. There's some names out there 73 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 6: that are just getting well known and for a while 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 6: now a guy throwing in the eighth inning first time 75 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 6: ever in the postseason twelve k's dabble a little bit 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 6: about him and his performance of you know, what you 77 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 6: thought and what you saw from him, Like, is there 78 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 6: anything you see when he throws that's like above average 79 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 6: or something that you know crosses your mind when you're 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 6: watching a guy like Cam Schlitzler throw. 81 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 82 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: The big thing that I saw was he dominated with 83 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: three different variations of his fastball, so you couldn't sit 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: on one. I mean, at its four seam fastball, obviously, 85 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: throw a two seamer off that, and then hitters are 86 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: you know, getting a little more confused. And then with 87 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: his cutter he was able to tunnel them as well 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: as sequence them really well. And ale an hour. One 89 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: hundred miles an hour gets on you real quick anyway, 90 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: But when you have to determine whether it's one of 91 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: three different variations, that's tough. Because I got asked that 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: question why can't hitters hit him? And that's a big reason. Also, 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: he throws so effortlessly and gets one hundred miles an hour, 94 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Like you look at it and the ball just jumps 95 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: out of his hand, and I think as a hitter 96 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: that probably is somewhat deceptive. 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 5: As a pitcher, throwing one hundred miles an hour, you 98 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 5: are going for strikeouts, are we right? 99 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, definitely. 100 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 5: Everybody loves the strikeouts. 101 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 4: Everything he's about to. 102 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 5: Face, he's about to face a team that does not 103 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: strike out. Does he have the repertoire to be able 104 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 5: to get that weak contact? I know what you're talking about. 105 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: You know his cutter and I wouldn't even called a sinker. 106 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 5: It was more of a runner. It's running off. So 107 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 5: he's playing all that top plane and the Blue Jays 108 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: hit balls at the top plane, high velocity better than 109 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 5: any team. That's why they strike out the least. Does 110 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 5: he have enough to go off that top rail and 111 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: go downstairs to get early quick outs with low exit velocity. 112 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's gonna be the cat and mouse game. 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: It's gonna be really interesting how he makes that adjustment, 114 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: because you're right, like that team does not strike out 115 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: a lot. CAM showed that he had with stuff, but 116 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: it's a different animal going against the Blue Jays. I 117 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: did notice he did throw some true sinkers and then 118 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: some runners. 119 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. 120 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: Is he gonna throw more of that? Is he gonna 121 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: rely on his cutter to get some weak contact? You know, 122 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: jam some folks maybe like I'll be interested to see 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: how they game plan because it's gonna be really interesting. 124 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 6: I want to talk a little bit about because we 125 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 6: were talking about this when you came on here, the 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 6: ABS system. What are your thoughts on it? And you know, 127 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 6: people always find you we saw the final strikeout and 128 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 6: well not the final the out to Bogart's yesterday, the 129 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 6: pitch that was really down low. I would love to 130 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 6: hear your thoughts and what you think about it moving forward? 131 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 6: Is there more we could do? Do you like the 132 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 6: two pitch calls? 133 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: Like you do? 134 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 6: You think this is the way to go? 135 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: I thought your feedback was really good because I could 136 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: see it going to three. But I don't want a 137 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: full automated strike zone. I think it just takes it 138 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: makes the game too mechanical. No one wants to see 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: it played by robots. I love the what it does 140 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: to catcher skills, like in the in the preseason you 141 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: had cal Rawley making I think he called he got 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: eight consecutive challenges right, So it creates another skill that 143 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: a catcher can show off, another skill maybe a hitter 144 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: can show off or a pitcher show off. So if 145 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: you look at it like that, we're introducing maybe a 146 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: different human aspect to the game that I think we 147 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: could showcase, Like these guys are really good at challenging 148 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: versus making it all mechanical and then taking all the 149 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: all the fun stuff, like imperfections are sometimes part of 150 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: the perfections of baseball. 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: So having some of it's good. 152 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: But I thought you're I mean, maybe adding a challenge 153 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: is not a bad idea, but I wouldn't take it 154 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: further than that. I like what they've done because it 155 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: makes betting interesting in game, like betting a beer on 156 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: whether you're going to get the challenge right or not, 157 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: Like you know, that's what I would. 158 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Oh, the fan interaction will be off the charts. It's 159 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: going to be awesome. It's a guarantee. 160 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure everyone sees the instant 161 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: replay of what I personally got two seconds ago, two 162 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: feet away from Todd. 163 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: Father. What did you do when you heard him agree 164 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: with you? Gimme? 165 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, like this, maybe said, let's go. I pun in 166 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 6: my first that somebody finally agrees with me on something. 167 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 6: So that means a lot. Man, you'll be get a 168 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 6: Christmas card this year. Don't you worry about that? Thank you? 169 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: Awesome. I can't wait. 170 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 5: I'm looking ahead, looking ahead. What's the one pitching maybe 171 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: not Yeah, the pitching matchup that you're most intrigued about 172 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 5: in this next series? 173 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: Well, I mean number one. 174 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: I really want to see show Hey on the mount 175 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: of the postseason, because if he takes his game up 176 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: another notch, it's going to be just so much fun 177 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: to watch. I also want to see the Mariners pitching 178 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: staff go, because you know, I think they're putting it together. 179 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: Watching them take on anybody is a lot of fun. 180 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: They throw so many different looks at you. That'll be 181 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: that'll be exciting for me, so I mean, I think 182 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: those are two of the big things. How the Brewers 183 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 3: use Miz is going to be fun to watch. And 184 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: I heard you all talking about Freddy Pearolta. I love 185 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: him in the postseason. I think, you know, he's just 186 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: electric and you know, having to beat him twice as tough. 187 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: And Quinn Priester never loses, so that's that's a tough 188 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: that's tough to go through. We had Quinn on just 189 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: the other day. But I want to also talk about 190 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: the relievers moving forward. You you post and show all 191 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: these incredible, you know, appearances and things that these guys do, 192 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: but they have pitched so much. There's guys that have 193 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: thrown three days in a row for the first time 194 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 5: in their career, let alone first time this season. How 195 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 5: do you feel like that affects the pitching going forward. 196 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it definitely impacts it. 197 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: But they do have something like, you know, this is 198 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: the postseason, pour it all out, let's see what you 199 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: got and we'll see who can come back and who can't. 200 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: I do like seeing you know, Matt Brash we haven't 201 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: seen yet. That's gonna be fun to watch. But you know, 202 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: whether guys can or not this is where your reputations 203 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: are made. Like watching Mason Miller. Granted he didn't win, 204 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: but he did pretty well pitching, you know, back to 205 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: back right, Like, so guys can either step up or not. 206 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: And this is part of beauty of baseball. 207 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 5: All right, what about Mason? What about Mason Miller's pitch? 208 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 5: I'm not sure who who tweeted it was that, but 209 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 5: that's a perfect pitch. 210 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: It was as good as pitch as I've ever seen. 211 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: Like, that's the fastest pitch of his career, the fastest 212 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: pitch ever in the postseason, and it was as dotted 213 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: as you can dot something. 214 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 4: I mean, for all the guys. So you know how 215 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: much drama we hear out there, Like pitchers today are. 216 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: Just throwers, Bob, you can't throw a pitch better than that, Like, 217 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: so let's stop with that and let's admire what this 218 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: guy's doing at that high level. Like that was as 219 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: good a pitch as I have ever seen anybody throw. 220 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 5: Canna be taught, Rob. 221 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 222 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: Like I you know, we can control command, can be 223 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: taught a little bit, so you can know how to 224 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: control your misses and all that, But to dial something 225 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: in that well, that's a very hard thing to teach. 226 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 4: And I talked to Maddox about that. 227 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: He said, he said, yeah, I can teach people to 228 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 3: command a little better, but I can't really teach him 229 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: to command the ball like I did, because it's like, 230 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: you know, you either can do it or you can't, 231 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: but you can get better at it. 232 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Hey, Rob, I think one of the themes this year 233 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: as teams always look for an edge, was it felt 234 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: like there's more technology to be able to take down 235 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: on tips right, for teams to find the slightest thing 236 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: that alerts them that a certain pitch is coming. Just 237 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: like super basic casual fan question here, who's not you know, 238 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: nearly as knowledgeable on the pitching part of things as 239 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: you like. 240 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: If we're seeing more and. 241 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: More pitchers I think have more variety, does that help 242 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: to combat that a little bit? Because I feel like, 243 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, and it's early in the playoffs, but we're 244 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: seeing certain guys pop up and it's like, this guy's 245 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: got five pitches, he's throwing ten percent or more, and 246 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I feel like we're getting a little 247 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: more of that again these days versus a two or 248 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: three pitch guy. I mean, how many signs can you 249 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: give away to somebody and be able to pick off? 250 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: How many pitches you're you're able to see from a 251 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: small tip. 252 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: That's exactly my theory on it too. I've talked about 253 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: that before, where a guy like you know, Paul Skein's adding, 254 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 3: now what he has seven pitches. If you're tipping one 255 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: or two, it's very hard to tip seven or to 256 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: remember the seven tips that you have to go through. 257 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 3: So yeah, if you're relying on fastball change up, you 258 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: can probably figure those out. But if you're throwing twelve 259 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: different pitch types, it makes it a little bit tougher. 260 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it does combat tipping. I love 261 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: you know, this is a real cat and mouse game. 262 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: Like we have cameras all over the ballpark, we have 263 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: AI that can determine if a pitcher does anything different 264 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: on a fastball versus a slider. But then now pitchers 265 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: can combat that by number one, fixing the tip because 266 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: you know their teammates and their front office will help, 267 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: but also throwing more different pitches that it makes it 268 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: impossible to actually pick up a tip in real time. 269 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 4: So yeah, I totally agree with you on that. 270 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 5: Ten teams in the postseason get by without guys that 271 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 5: are striking out. The biggest thing we talk about is 272 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: hitters have to hit homers, and teams have to strike 273 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 5: guys out. Can the teams that are left get by 274 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 5: without punching tickets? 275 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: It's gonna be really hard to do that. 276 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: Like that is what the game's about, at least, having 277 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: dominant stuff, Like you got to throw hard enough to 278 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: keep hitters off balance. I don't know if you necessarily 279 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: need strikeouts, but you definitely need to get hitters on 280 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: a defensive and that's going to be mostly done from 281 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: you know, hard throwing guys. You do have a crafty 282 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: guys too that can, you know, make their mark, but 283 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: generally at this stuff that I spoke to Chipper about, 284 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 3: Chipper said, you know the reason why John Smoltz was 285 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: so good in the postseason. Yeah, dominant stuff, And that's 286 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: what plays in the postseason because you know, whether you 287 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: play the infield, you have to play the infield in 288 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: with a guy that pitches a contact, but with a 289 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: guy that's going to case somebody, maybe it's a little 290 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: easier to get out of those situations. So yeah, I 291 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 3: like my guys with swing swinging mess. 292 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: And just to finish here, Kratz, I know your question 293 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: plays into teams having contact versus power, right, So but 294 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: I will counter you here and we'll get Rob's thoughts. 295 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: You have teams like the Blue Jays and the Brewers 296 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: who are upper echelon power teams, right, And the Brewers 297 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: have won and scored in a variety of ways, like 298 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: almost as unique as we've seen it these days because 299 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: they're playing an older school brand of baseball. 300 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: Do you think that plays. 301 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Or this power elite strikeout stuff overcome all of that, Like, 302 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: do you think these teams are the two serious threats 303 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: or do we look at teams that have more pop, 304 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: like the Yankees and the Dodgers. 305 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a great question because I think 306 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: sometimes good pitch, if you're swinging just for the fences 307 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: all the time, you're also more app to, you know, 308 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: be taken advantage of by some guys with swinging miss stuffing. 309 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: The putting a ball in. 310 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: Play in the postseason is important, and that's why you know, 311 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: getting somebody to not let them put the ball in 312 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: play is important on the other side, but if you're 313 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: playing small ball, that could make the difference like you're 314 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: testing a team's fundamentals. You see some fundamentals break down 315 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: sometimes on defense, and I do think it's a different 316 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: game in the postseason. Every pitch matters a lot, and hitters, 317 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, have to do a job instead of swinging 318 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: for the fences a lot of times. 319 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: Rob, good stuff. Always appreciate you coming on dropping Insight. 320 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: You got Todd father as fired up as anyon one right, 321 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: and he's he's pretty tired. 322 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: He's he's on low sleep. You just gave him a 323 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: jolt of energy for the last hour of the show. Here. 324 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: He just came back from Tiger's Guardian. So thanks for 325 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: joining us. 326 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: Man. 327 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: Always good to see it. Enjoy the weekend. 328 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: I'm ready for the holiday cards from from top. 329 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 6: It's coming, baby. 330 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 5: We'll get your Halloween cards. 331 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 4: Halloween cards are Hey, that's fine too. 332 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: You go all out for Halloween with his family. 333 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 6: I didn't see that actually, drive by. Okay, she did 334 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 6: everything when I was going, I'm my god. 335 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it. 336 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: But you might got a Halloween card now too, at 337 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: least digitally, Rob. 338 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: But good to see it. 339 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: Awesome, Good to see y'all.